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  1. Is cycling on the new road forbidden because of that? I'm both a cyclist and a car driver. Very often I see cyclist in situations where I think als cyclist that they took a very stupid way, which has actually no real benefit for cyclist (e.g. not really shorter/faster). So there's really no reason to drive that way. As car driver, I don't use cars which have massive problems e.g. even with lowered curbs. It's the drivers fault if he chose something like that, so don't annoy others because of that. Same correspondingly for bicycles. If there's like dirt on the farm road, there also will be dirt on the normal road in that area.

  2. You don't have much road cyclists around aka Rennräder? I'd choose this lane over a path solely for its superior surface. And if it makes the route even 100m shorter, the choice is a no-brainer.

  3. This cycle road will barely see any wear since the most wear on a road surface will be cause by big and heavy vehicles. Bicycles won't even make a dent in the speed of wear. Most of the wear this cycle lane gets is from the weather

  4. Die Frage am Ende könnte ich fast täglich stellen. Scheinbar ist es vielen Radfahrern völlig egal, dass nebenan ein super ausgebauter Radweg ist

  5. The urbanist in me is getting whiplash from this… Yay for the bike road, nay for the widened regular road which on top of what you mentioned will also probably induce demand somewhat.

  6. Looks like Google Maps thinks part of the lane is private property so, for navigation, it will always choose the street.
    Also, if I measuered correctly the distance between both town centers, the road is 6% shorter.
    So, in the end you will find cyclists on the road and probably some pedestrians from time to time, too. If they had money and space to widen the road for safety reasons. It would have been better if the width stayed the same and they would have added a shared cycle path instead.

  7. The only issue, of course, is that the Germans aren't particularly good at indicating what is what, unlike in the Netherlands. Although, I suppose German cyclists are accustomed to it. That said, it's still far better than in other countries, such as the United Kingdom.

  8. so escooters (the 20km/h things) have to go via the main road, since they are not allowed on the bike path. (it was Scheuer's rule to escooters in the category "KFZ", not "bicycle" like in Austria.)

  9. i assume the motorway is a few meters shorter and has less elevation bumbs… so a lot of cyclist will when running late will take the motorroad. in plus, during winter those bike trails will not be maintained free of snow, the road surely will.

  10. You probably have to know that little country lane to use it.

    If you don't know it, you'll end up on the road – which, in fact, you are free to use.

  11. So many comments "Oh, but the road is shorter and the path not indicated for bikes, so you would never…"
    Really? Seriously?
    OK, I am a bike commuter for some years now, I believe I know where the paths in my area are, where it is safe to drive on a B road when time is short, etc.. Maybe you don't know that when you start out commuting on your bike, But it doesn't take forever to figure things out. In other news, this is a valley road connecting several villages, not a major traffic hub (Its an S Road).
    Never been there myself, and that is the next thing to address: If I was to travel through the Spessart region on my bike why would I not look up bikepaths in advance where I don't know the area? I may not stick to them religiously, but I'd know where they are (and your parents would be able to find out as well).
    And at last: bikepaths are not racecourses. They are a convenience for commuting and travelling. If you want to be fast by all means use the road.

  12. When I travel on the bike (road bike with bags), I have often problems to find this kind of bike routes. Some are very good but there are no signs, sometimes there are signs but they go far off the road and turn into gravel or mountain bike trails. I prepare the trips with a map that typically knows this bike routes and if they are paved but there are also cases where I ended up on the main road while a much better solution was available. I also ended up on very bad mountain bike trails and had to turn around. Especially in Bavaria, the routes are often in the responsibility of the towns and in the middle of nowhere is the border to the next town. I had several cases where the bike route changed from good paved into heavy gravel at this border somewhere in the woods far away from the main road.

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