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on stage 14 of this year's Tour the first 13 riders were inside Armstrong's doped to the eyeballs long standing 2002 record time climbing up to Pla D'Adet. Next day on stage 15 the winner, Pogacar , was 3 minutes faster than epo/cocaine using monster climber Mario Pantani's even older record up to Plateau De Beille and at the end didn't even appear to be breathing hard. Make of that what you will.
Saw that clip of Tadej and was like wait… that just happened .. when did this get posted😂 2 hours ago
Well said and complete. I’m happy you put this out. The true fan knows this and his story but we hope someday the public at large will see it too.
Just hearing that guys name in your title makes me puke in my mouth.
What crap. As a research methodologist doping does not equal the field. He had a very poor hematocrit so he could dope more than others. Before he doped he was consistently 16 minutes slower on maintain stages!!!! He stole 100 million dollars from others who deserved the money. He was the biggest criminal. He ruined the business of lemons and others. Disgusting
Cycling Dane I’m severely disappointed in you. You seem to be such a decent and knowledgeable man. Not here sadly
Not a level playing field at all. Without Michele Ferrari, Lance would have been a nobody. UCI let US Postal get away with a lot of stuff that their competitors could never get away with. Like when they allowed a prescription for cortisone to be backdated in violation of the rules, when Lance tested positive for cortisone. Or when they made positive samples that he had produced, disappear before they could be retested. Hein Verbrüggen UCI president, received generous gifts from Lance. That's bribery.
And you can add the bullying of anyone that dared speak about him doping, like Christophe Bassons and Filippo Simeoni.
Lance Armstrong! ❤
Good points. Lance's influence, in all senses, cannot be underestimated. As a young amateur & Olympic hopeful, he excelled. As a cycling pro, he also excelled. Being thrust, as it were, into the epoch of severe doping in the sport of cycling, he excelled once again. He competed in his domain, determined always to rise to the top. I don't believe Lance Armstrong is any more or any less guilty of doping than any of his colleagues. All of them, the bunch, took the plunge & bit the bullet for one reason only–to cruise thru & taste the glory of maillot jaune, rose, vert, etc.
Modern cycling is intrinsically tied up with performance enhancing substances. Call them drugs, dope or enhancers, the world of chemically induced performance enhancers is upon us.
Who is 100 % clean in the peleton? In their determination to take advantage of every chemical advantage, who is truly innocent? It's a messy world, if you look at it microscopically. Voila mon perspective…
Yeah, Lance 'rescued' the Tour just like Trump's insurrection rescued U.S. democracy. Interesting thesis.
When I started racing in 1989 only the richest yuppies had $2K bikes. $1200 was more than enough. My first good bike was less than $500.
While he definitely helped with the spread of cycling in America and beyond, after watching his documentary on Netflix, I think he just needs to move into a different arena. His type A personality was extreme and kinda scary but helped him work harder. Very few people could reel him in, and there was very little self reflection/empathy from him in that time. He’d burn any bridge to win. What really makes the situation dark for me is his fight against cancer and subsequent advocacy for cancer treatment and knowledge was interwoven with his claims of being honest. He also was adamant he was clean even as the sport was setting no PEDs as the standard. He lied for years and even under oath with the warning of perjury.
The one honest thing that resonated from the doc was that he needed the type of response (and lawsuits) he got for him to realize his role and how people saw him. Any attempts to maintain his “brand” or name in current discussion is like tolerating a bully/jerk because they exhibit some qualities we as humans see as important to survival. For me, modeling the traits of Armstrong at that extreme would make me question my integrity. The video essay is an interesting take, and has some points, but I definitely won’t be subscribing to any of his future projects or attempt to view him at the same level as other cyclists.
Who?
And the rehabilitation tour of the doper continues.
Many thanks, for shedding a better light and the truth of what Lance did for cycling. PEDs or not he is still our champion.
I think the cleanest tdf year in modern cycling was the year Cadel Evans won. Thoughts?
Laurent Virenque … what a hero!…. "You can say that climbers suffer the same as the other riders, but they suffer in a different way."
I wasn't around during that era but one notorious fact is how his doping came out. It wasn't through the Oprah interview. It was through back-log testing of samples that caught him in which he was notified about and did the infamous Oprah interview to get ahead of the UCI announcement. Plus, the fact that doping was super well known through Landis' failed attempt.
Other than that, yep I can attest to the heavy amount of marketing and advertising it brought, my dad had tons of those Livestrong bands.
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My love of cycling started with Lance Armstrong, he will always be the greatest for me!
NGL every sport has a similar athlete, it's up to the community and players and sponsors whether they decide to find out the best route for the sport to make amends or not and make sure future generations of athletes don't fall for the same pitfalls.
The greatest cheaters are obviously not known 😅😅😅
No Lance no T France
Lance had a negative effect on cycling overall
The biggest holiday in France is not Bastille Day or Christmas or New Year, but the day Lance Armstrong was stripped of his TdF wins. The francophone cycling world is so full of corruption and hypocrisy.
Lance is the GOAT
Richard Virenque, not Laurent Jalabert. I believe Jalabert was still on ONCE at this time
Thanks for your video i think it is about time people remember the good part of the Amstrong area. Not only did he get so many people into riding bikes but during his area he was responsible to many advancements in cycling that got us to where we are now. Things like aero skinsuits higher cadence etc he started the area of scientific riding
His training was pretty full on as well . Some of the TdF Winter recon rides were legendary. If everyone had ridden clean I think he would of won just the same. I guess back then there was a lot of inside guessing what the other teams were up to and they made judgement calls based on that for better or worse.
Typical hypocrisy. Aren't today's top cyclists doped tonthe gills ? Or you really think Pogacar is clean?
And hoe about track and field athletes? Ever heard of the Serbian doping system and Djokovic being the only player that ATP allows to skip random doping controls?