Practical guide to Zone training. Any activity is better than none, but efficient exercise using Zones is can make the most of our efforts. Part of the Older Athlete Series.
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over the age of 60 there comes a moment when every active person realizes they’re not going to be able to pursue their chosen sport forever it is the mortality moment and in this series we’re looking at ways to push that moment back as far as possible to exercise efficiently and in this video we’re on to the hard [Music] stuff the previous video was all about activity in heart rate zones 1 and two here you use your slow twitch muscle fibers and they in turn mainly use fat as fuel exercise in these zones improves the number and health of your mitochondria the powerhouses of your cells essential for healthy lifespan graphically zones 1 and two looked like this as effort increased we used more fat up to a maximum point where it started to dip carbohydrate use also increased and lactate levels in the blood also increased right up to this point where they kinked upwards this physiological change is called LT1 or first metabolic threshold and it defined the top of Zone 2 what happens after that depends on your goals and I’ll argue your age confusingly different experts use different zones and even number of zones so I’m going with five as your effort increases your fast twitch muscle fibers come into play these cannot use use fat as fuel so we enter the next [Music] Zone because fast twitch fibers can’t use fat as fuel fat use Drops away eventually to zero carbohydrate use continues to increase and at this point you burn more carbs than fat and this is another physiological markers we can train to push this to the right which means we can ride longer the body holds more energy as fat than carbohydrate and we benefit our mitochondria for longer lactate levels in your blood also increase at a certain point they Kink again this time sharply upwards usually around 4 millimes per liter after this lactate builds faster this is the second metabolic threshold also called lactate threshold to it’s also close to a cyclist’s functional threshold power top endurance athletes specifically train in Zone 3 to enable their bodies to use lactate as fuel and again push this boundary further to the right however if you’re that good an athlete then you probably already know this for most of us Zone 3 training is physically costly it is doing muscular damage to provoke a training response but it will require longer recovery it’s a tradeoff let’s be honest we all know that when you’re out for a ride and you come to a hill it is so easy to stray into Zone 3 but this is exactly what the coaches mean when they say US amateur Riders do our easy sessions too hard and conversely our hard sessions too easy the time taken to recover from this might not be worth the training response that it provokes and for me well I’ve decided that it’s not the trade-off is not worth it so I try to avoid Zone 3 the next Zone though well that’s different this is the hard work we should do Zone 4 effort maintains and improves our V2 Max that’s the maximum amount of oxygen a body can use it is closely correlated with longevity and health as I explained in this video it declines with age and if it drops too low you won’t be able to carry out the daily chores of everyday life in zones four and five this happens fat use has dropped to zero the fast twitch muscles can’t use it carbohydrate is the fuel being used in these zones after the second metabolic threshold blood lactate kinked again and is now climbing to the point of unsustainability trained athletes can continue to work in these zones for longer their Zone models go up to 6 or seven most of us can’t do that but we can use Zone 4 to help train our V2 Max I couldn’t find a simple practical test to tell you whether or not you’re in zone 4 you could use a percentage of maximum heart rate but you don’t need to know the boundaries to use it for training intervals are the usual way indoor doors or out the classic is 4X 4×4 that’s 4 minutes hard not an allout Sprint but you should only just be able to finish each 4minute block at that intensity followed by 4 minutes easy this is recovery where your heart rate should drop back down so extend the duration to make sure it does and repeat it all four times with a warm up and cool down this is a hard session so we should only do this once or twice a week even that sounds like a lot so I try to include a zone for Hill climb on my weekly long ride well done come on Simon let’s go good job keep it going keep it going out of curiosity I had my cycling V2 Max measured at Edinburgh apia University’s Department of sport exercise and Health Sciences well done keep it going keep it going keep it going keep it going it’s a ramp test with progressively harder stages until the point of exhaustion okay okay okay good job mate done together with a lactate threshold test it costs £162 you can only measure V two Max in a laboratory anything else is an estimate but I’ve done that too for comparison in this video I tried two well-known self- test methods one walking one running I also used my gin devices and my Apple watch that collected data over time this is how their estimates compared to the lab measurement the lab found I can use 45 mL of oxygen per kilogram of my body weight per minute the Rockport walk test estimated 36.8 the cooper run test was about the same Garmin and apple came up with around 44 so they were closest to the lab but just because my estimates were all fairly close to the lab measurement it does not mean the same pattern will be repeated in other people I’ve said this in several videos now but an absolute V2 Max measurement I don’t think is important for most of us it is the change week by week month by month that matters and as long as you’re using the same method to estimate it then you’re keeping an eye on your V2 Max you will know whether you are improving maintaining or declining and all of us should at least strive to improve I’ve not mentioned zone 5 physiologists argue about this some say the cardiovascular response is the same as Zone 4 high level athletes use it to develop a different type of fast twitch fiber along with neurological responses and I feel regular zone 5 training can be too punishing for me so setting the numbers aside here’s the plan I’ve worked out for myself at least 3 hours a week I should be getting my heart rate up a little breathless ideally to a level where I can only just hold a conversation this improves my fat metabolism and increases the number and health of my all important mitochondria I listen to my body and dial it back if I feel tired I switch to brisk quing it is still bringing benefits once or twice a week I do something that really gets me gasping and my legs aching either outdoor or on the turbo zift has several V2 Max sessions and again I listen to my body and don’t force any of these if I’m fatigued remember this type of Fitness is not everything balance nutrition strength mental health and more are very important for us older athletes which is why this is part of a series and it doesn’t all fit in a couple of videos you can find some of the other ones here and these videos might offer some inspiration for Adventures on your bike please give me a thumbs up I’ll see you again next time goodbye [Applause]
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Thanks Simon, great information for us older athletes!
Excellent as always. Perhaps you've talked about this in other videos but for folks like me who experience occasional AFib events venturing into zones 4 and 5 can be a bit of a problem and from my experience may trigger an AFib event. As my electrocardiologist said, do what you do but you should dial down the intensity
There is a VO2 max calculator for cycling as well, by Michael Konczer on the Internet. It is a 6 minute all out effort, using a power meter or smart trainer power meter. Put the average power sustained in the 6 minute all out test, into the calculator, along with your weight in kg and the calculator works out your VO2 max.
Wonderful video. Thank you.
Excellent as usual thanks. I agree totally on trying to do a couple of high intensity rides each week. Because of their intensity they are short workouts of one hour or less, which means that I can usually find a spot to squeeze them in.
Always Another Amazing Video. Thank you.
I’m 59 and like many people who just cycle my ‘training’ isn’t very structured. I usually ride between min 8 hours/week sometimes 10 and 12 hours in a bigger week. But big chunks of that are group rides of minimum two hours on our regular route. That includes a mix of zones 2, 3, 4 and 5 just depending on how hard the group is pushing it. One group pushes quite hard for the 2 hrs. There are Hills & Sprint sections. On a Sunday in a different group we might do three or four hours and that will be a mix of zones. Until the last couple of years I’ve never heard of zone 2 training. I just ride my bike And when you’re in a group, you don’t necessarily get to choose to stay in zone two for extended periods of time as is recommended. I like the social aspect of group rides and I think that’s important, at any age. But I’m wondering if I’m missing out by not doing specific zone 2 on my own or with a mate who agrees to stick at the pace. I’m in Australia there riding conditions are good all year round except summer can be oppressively hot so we ride early, I’m out the door no later than 5am most of the time.
Zones 2 3 and 5 now you are talking!
Curious. How long does it take for the mitochondria to lose benefits from zone 2?
Thanks Simon, another valuable video. You certainly do some work, to not only research the latest knowledge, but then communicate it in laymen's terms for us.
Any advice on strengthening knees for cycling ?
I was a solo RAAM finisher at 50. At 72 I do 16mph group rides 3X a week, with a heart monitor. These videos are a great source of information.
Thanks. I was curious how good my Apple watch was at estimating my vo2 max.
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Thanks Simon, very interesting, always good for us older athletes to stretch well after exercise 👍
After listening to all these stats I'm disappointed with my self, my Garmin is still in its box after 5 years. I tend to just run and use a cheap wrist watch to keep track and listen to my body in order to avoid injuries. I'm pretty quick for my age over most distances but clearly could do better. Thanks for this, I will try to be more scientific.
Thank you for posting this once again. Your comment of watching the VO2 and looking to catch it if it is dropping is easier said than done.
2020 came in , I had a good 1 week skiing hard and always clears me after the run up and Christmas itself ….
My watch had my vo2 at about 45-46 when I came back .
Covid got me , not bad but certainly did my vo2 dropped to 35 after this …. And it took me 6 months to claw this back …..
Then the vaccines came into play each time again my vo2 would drop into the 30,s and again I would claw it back the cycle continued after each Jab …
My Apple Watch has now after two years of wallowing in the high 39’s , come back to 45.4 after months and years of working out , it has slowly come back up… being 69 now I know it is better I can ride faster on my road bike without getting fatigued…. Walking fast I’d easy again. Also would like to mention when working in the 3/4/5 range takes me two days to recover ….as I have aged it takes longer to recover….. so anyone looking to put in a daily session needs zone 2 training for two days before going back to the higher levels , stops injury and total fatigue…
Simon, please tell us your age
Great series of videos. My issue is I far prefer to cycle outdoors than on the trainer, especially if weather is good so trying to keep to an estimated/perceived zone is nigh on impossible as virtually all of my rides will involve some steep hills. Mostly I just "go for a ride" which is fun but I'm not doing specific training efforts which perhaps I should. I am guilty of what a lot do which is go all out too often. As you rightly say, most of us do our easy sessions too hard and hard sessions too easy. I think more discipline required on my part, I exercise a lot with a combination of cycling and heavy weight training but I probably need to focus on structured workouts on bike.
I've been in the fitness industry for 20 years and still find this easy to understand film very informative. Thank you and keep them coming.
Its interesting, and rather convenient, that the two strongest predictors for a healthy longer life and athletic ability are the same : Mitochondrial efficiency and VO2 max. And if you need a better example of polarised training then look no further than Tadej Pogacar (although I'm never sure about comparing the training regimes of pro's to that of us mere mortals!)
A very informative couple of videos, thanks. I sneak in some Z5 through 'micro-dosing',
spinning a very low gear, very quickly for 15 secs, 15 seconds rest x4, 1 min rest, repeat.
It gets the heart pumping and the lactate rising but with minmal metabolic cost
👍 Yes, listen to your body is always the most important thing.
Every day is different.
When I start my morning run I always have a plan, but the first 1-3 km tell me if I can/should follow it.
The older you get the more your max heart rate and zones descend, yet the hills don't get any lower nor the slopes less steep so the effort required, and thus your BPM, remain the same. Eventually every ride is in zone 4 or 5. That's where I am now. I can still have fun but recovery is usually slow. I do a lot of flat rides these days.
After decades in the military with endless ego to fullfil and after retirement I took up Ultra. I also put the ego in the bin Common in cycling hence the drug addictions so common.
I took the advice of female ultra riders who knew they could not compete on pure strength and ego, but in cunning and guile and planning and preparation and do rather well. The training advice was ride the bike and don’t get off unless you have something to do. When that something is done the ride the bike. All the advice I needed. Ride the bike do fairly well and watch people go home early because they went to hard to fast or it rained.
As an aside, have you thought about doing a video on the benefits of stretching as we get older? As we lose muscle mass, our ability to rely on our muscular system to generate power on the bike obviously reduces and therefore we rely on our cardiovascular system to a greater extent. The limiting factor in my experience is the reduction in flexibility as we age, which in my case was leading to increasing discomfort on the bike. For this reason, I have taken up yin yoga with the aim of increasing deep tissue flexibility. It has had a huge effect on my comfort on the bike and I am now able to do VO2max interval sessions again that felt out of reach. Interestingly my average cadence on my last high intensity sessions was over 100 compared to my previous average of around 85.
Thank you Simon. I watch your videos as much for the stunning locations you ride in as the technical content. I really appreciate both of these
Thanks again Simon. Superb easy to follow and understand content, as ever 👍
As ever excellent info for us "oldies" (I've just turned 60). Cheers.
Oh ye !!!! Vo2 Max and life expectancy ? I have not looked this up but I wonder if the issue is Comorbidity and if the other illness is the significant factor of anyone’s crappy Vo2Max result. Asking for a friend aged 98.
Many thanks Simon, this is the first time ever I have seen the comparisons between a Lab measurement v smartwatch results for V02. It’s very encouraging and I appreciate your promise to upload this.
Excellent description. Zone 2 training best done for 45 min+?
I'm 64 years old and in much the same head space as you. I'll never win (or even be in) the TdF, but would like to extend my active years. This is a very intelligent and well presented series. What I stuggle with more as an older athlete is when to back off and when to push thru not feeling great. We've all had days where the first interval felt like rubbish, but then the overall session was quite good. Do you talk about HRV?
I have been very zone-conscious since your series started and have been aiming to incorporate plenty of zone 2 work. It does seem to have many very beneficial effects – mainly, I do feel much better placed on the weekly harder ride with club mates. As I have also adopted some weight training into my programme its hard to know which is having the bigger impact but I am guessing that zone 2 on the bike is best…..since typing that I took 10 seconds to check Strava and see that most of my gym work is zones 1 and 2 so perhaps there is the answer! Sticking in the zone 4/5 Zwift workout on a weekly basis is the icing on the cake.
I really enjoy your videos. Age 66 and if Apple makes it, I use it. Dropped from 225 to 165 now trying to live and improve at this weight. Thanks!