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    [Music] what up party people sorry I don’t know why I just did that apparently we’re putting these things back on YouTube now because so many of you’all have requested to not just listen to our dreamy voices each week but you actually want to see our beautiful faces too so I didn’t want to look like will frell and not know what to do with my hands but whatever I just did I think it actually made it worse anyways we’re talking jur updates and whatever in the hell toad had going on with his mix match kit we answer some listener questions pertaining to DJ and the bike fit sorcery he has going on Scott tells us about his return to gravel that he plans for next month and trying to upkeep his undefeated record and we also touch on some happenings across the pond at the tracka 360 this past weekend or is it the 200 no one really knows this week’s episode is brought to you by Dynamic cyclist the online fitness platform designed to tune your body to be limber and strong so you can keep on 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and knock all that [ __ ] out yeah should I just start scraping it and then inhaling it and then you can get a bunch of money for it all these commercials you know it’s true it’s true yeah I don’t get I don’t get any ASB bestas commercials I don’t know what you’re talking about they don’t show on your YouTube have a TV that’s true I you don’t have a TV I don’t have a TV in my house no what do you watch your videos on YouTube his phone um yeah no no no look people who people who don’t have TVs in their house like Dylan like to brag about they don’t how they don’t and then and then they literally just watch the same amount of TV they just do it on computer okay I have never bragged about not having a TV the only reason we’re talking about it is cuz no Scott brought it up dude Scott was like you don’t even have a TV yeah but people who don’t have TVs in their house just love to brag about it like we don’t watch TV friends over and you want to watch something you watch it on your laptop together I mean that would that would assume that I have friends you know that is true that is true yeah all right so Tyler what’s this uh burning question you were waiting to ask until we were recording dude are all tires like aund mountain bike tires like $100 now am I have I been out of the mountain bike tire game for so long no it’s are you you just specifically looking at Maxis and Schwab no I need so I need I have a so that was that was question one but question two which I I kind of already know the answer to I need to get a second set of tires for a race wheel set why are we starting the podcast off with Tire talk we usually don’t get to the tire talk until like 30 minutes rolling if you’re rolling on a tire budget man just get those Bond triers I did have a tab up for Bond trigger if you also don’t want to finish your next three races get the bond triggers oh man I feel like and I keep hearing like uh 2.4 is the way but like looking at I want to snag some victoras but I’m just worried go for the 26 baby go for the two that worri that they’re going to just get sliced mhm can’t keep track of all the compounds I’m just confused on what to do about mountain bike tires and I want to stop being confused where you ride mountain bikes at outside my door here dude that’s like a whole different world you can’t listen to Dylan or I you need to have your own Tire selection just forville I’m running these things if I’m going to make it to schwam again Iceman same tires not even taking them off they’re just just but they have to survive Northwest Arkansas yeah you got to get those uh those Maxis Recon with the Double Down uh sidewall protection is the speo Plus or whatever just get the minion with the downhill casing yeah or the downhill casing probably works yeah get the minion and shave off all the center knobs just ride it on the road for weeks on end yeah the the men but yeah I was like I was surprised like scouring the internet for mountain bike tire options and seeing that they’re all like $100 feel very yeah unless they’re Bond Trier specialized you’re going to probably pay 90 plus dollar okay I think that we’re actually having a real effect on the market here because I went to try to find some um KY race King 2.2 the black chili compound they’re sold out everywhere nothing you can’t find them no you can actually in this in this uh skin wall yeah but who wants the skin wall dude why does it matter good good answer squat Scott that’s [Laughter] squat new [Music] nickname yeah no that’s they’ve been sold out for a few weeks I think man I should have bought I I bought some I guess a few weeks ago and I was like I only need two pairs but I should have bought more didn’t you do that with this Pathfinders you bought like a dozen Pairs and then you talked about them yeah that’s what I should have done that’s what I should have done you should just tell everyone you’re going back to the Pathfinders yeah guys everyone I’m going back to the path the kti race King 2.2 black chil compound is a terrible Tire don’t buy it I don’t recommend it anymore stop buying it are you uh are you needing those for your mountain bike or for the gravel bike no dude that’s a gravel Tire now okay it’s like he laughed at us like we should know what the answer was it’s officially my favorite gravel Tire now which Tire are we talking about it it’s okay it’s not it’s not a voria it’s not a Road tire Scott you probably wouldn’t know about it I probably don’t even know about it then yeah yeah I’m doing gravel race or I’m doing an act my first gravel race are you gon to drop out of this one too or maybe it’s very likely which one which bwr North Carolina oh dude look at him he knew look at his eybrows go go whoop Dyan dude Scott DJ Showdown that makes me want to come just I was say Dizzle you should be there dude now I’m maybe Tyler should be there too when is it it should we should have all five of us Showdown bth Carina June the 28th or something like that is it the 28th no I think it’s the 202nd 10 days after I’m supposed to have a kid that’s that’s almost three weeks dude yeah dude you have plenty hold in yeah dude your dad watts are going to be peeking it’s not affecting your body yeah have double I’ll have double the dad Watts yeah one for each leg Yeah mhm uh that would be sick actually I I might try and look into that is it sold out already no Adam we can do the waffle get that one sold I don’t think that one sold I I would love to throw down in the wafer we can maybe get a spot in the Expo I could ask Michael about Dylan what that would look like why would it matter I there’s no chance that we would be riding together anyways I’m not going to the Bro dude okay gosh you guys are a-holes okay Scott why are you randomly now going to do the North Carolina race cuz we got a wedding down there the next day oh dude this is like uh like last wedding on a Sunday this is great Scott only does races when think it’s on Sunday yeah actually on Saturday cheap skates well actually they sent the invitation and it said Saturday June 23rd but June 23rd is Sunday you better figure that out I think I think Megan clarified I think either way you could probably make it yeah dude what time races starts at like 5:00 a.m. or something like that right the wedding’s like two hours from the race yeah no problem you’ll be done in three so yeah how long is this race uh it’s well the bwrs have been getting shorter and shorter and shorter so for all I know it’s going to be a three-hour race at this point they have a 35 mile option Scott you could do that one yeah maybe I’ll just do that yeah I could be down for that man I did a two-hour group ride on Sunday and I was like smoked afterwards what what bite you do might drop our heart tail oh that’s probably why was this a a road ride yeah it was a road group ride okay no [ __ ] I mean he’s just trying to he’s just trying to like softly brag you know yeah I was right I wasn’t bragging at all I was like literally two feet from the grave I was I was so much in the hole you feel 120 to 130ish Miles yeah watch it be like 120 to 130 already like the ish is implied well yeah so it could be like 110 to 140 yeah why do they have to make it so secretive it’s only cash for the top three how much cash cash is does anyone else matter better go fast it just says for the smaller races it’s usually 750 500 250 that’s not that much that’s not that much not when they’re ring not when they’re quar M aren’t you aren’t you on a professional Road team they probably got money okay so I they still have to pay it well actually I don’t know about that but um just tell tell you have the km on Barbecue Hill and do you get a Podium bonus km in Barbecue Hill to cheating dude I got the I got the local Legend on Caesar’s head I’ve done it like every single ride for the last two weeks I yeah last week you posted a ride that was some number Caesar’s head some other number and then two days later you posted the exact same thing it said like the same number Caesar’s head and then the same number like did you do the same de ride two days in a row I’ve done that ride three times in the last week I just want to point out that uh I rode longer than Dylan on one of my rides wow that’s the same day or like then he’s ridden total no I mean like he’s been doing this so-called Unbound training but he hasn’t even ridden 150 miles and I did 160 on Saturday whoa does that mean you’re coming for him um what else would I be doing that is all I thought you G I thought you gave up after the V2 Max test all I’m doing no after that ride my Garmin said my V2 went up four numbers oh what’s it at now 73 what oh dude actually my Garmin before that had said it was a 67 like it was saying that it was even worse than the lab testing now I’m up in according to my Garmin I’m up in the 70s now so I’m I’ve turned over a whole Le you’re look in the same league as Keegan now dude I know I know so how how many how many hours have you done over the last week well Saturday was the first day of was the first day of my Unbound block and my block is one week so um all right so what’s the UN what’s the we gonna look like I think this I’m going to do that ride again two more times should you be riding right now you’re going to do 300 60 mile rides in one that route was amazing I like had so much fun it was like the best route I’ve probably ever backwards no I don’t think it would be more fun that way how long did it take you to do 160 miles eight and a half hours nice sounds about right it’s cooking zone two isn’t the average winning speed like 22 or 23 I wasn’t trying to win I was just trying to ride dude no it’s no Unbound is like a 20 21 m per hour winning average speed you guys got to step it up is 20 miles per hour over 200 miles not fast enough for you Adam no it’s not even close to fast enough oh mine was all paved so like Colin Strickland did that solo one year yeah dude 20 like especially if they go North Route this year I think North Route is slower gravel uh um or it’s chunky or something because you I I feel like I could be wrong here because I’m not an expert in the gravel of Emporia but I feel like North Route average speeds are always slower so I’ve got a serious question for you Dylan um for years you’ve been talking about how Unbound is like the Pinnacle of all Pinnacles for you it is your World Series you just said that you’re not an expert of Emporia gravel like have you done any homework for this race I mean I I can’t tell you like every single little road like what the you know what the the category of gravel is why Haven you like why haven’t you just moved out there you should live there for a month before the race that’s what I’m saying dude goes to Colorado for a month why don’t you go to Kansas for a month well I am going to I am going to just chill in Texas to heat acclimate before Unbound so I’m I’m kind of living out there it’s not hot it’s not hot enough in empor it’s not hot enough in Emporia you need to go where it’s really hot like Texas but is the race in Texas you know you don’t understand I want the maximum heat acclimation possible it’s hotter in Texas than it is in Kansas okay haven’t you seen those sauna blankets they just came out with uh I I don’t know probably should just be wearing one of those all the time I mean have you seen have you seen a picture of the sauna that I use it’s like it’s one of those where just your head pops out and it’s it’s like a curtain gets up to 140 degre in there like a snuggie that’s they just came out with infrared Snuggies I mean I don’t know if I don’t know if they just did but I’ve I’ve seen them adverti on Instagram is that for your recovery purposes like you just drape that thing over you after your ride and definitely does not help with recovery if anything it severely hinders iters it yeah I think it’s more for emotional support So when you’re like feeling snuggled by your Snuggie you also feel warm and and comforted that’s nice yeah H I don’t know how you wash them though cuz if it’s got like infrared features built into it that thing GNA get sweaty that’s a great do like a bonk Bros themed Snuggie so people can snuggle up with us and feel you know all warm and Co press a button and it’ll give you a DJ ism DJ ISM what’s a yeah that sounds a little R-rated dude what do you mean by that what’s a DJ D I said DJ ISM what what’s the djm does make it better that makes it worse any of DJ’s sound bites okay oh yeah science bro that’s what it’ll just say science bro it’ll be like I love you and I hate Pathfinders [Music] I love you stop buying all my kti race Kings yeah right why is it saying I love you so much what all teddy bears do when you press them or whatever the Bears it’ll just have DJ saying tires in his Danny strawberry accent that he uh that he yeah exactly ah so comforting ASMR by DJ have you guys uh have you guys been calling the jro at all yes yeah no didn’t know what was going on of course I was expecting we’re the leading we’re the leading bike Talk podcast and we don’t even know about the biggest race happening right now are we the leading bike Talk podcast I don’t know I may Scott Scott’s got to be following the the jro of course he is he follows everything yeah just myal what’s your what’s your hot take on PG’s purple shorts that he’s wearing for some reason uh I know I saw them but is that like a thing that people are talking about now now I gotta Google it I’m talking about it that’s true you he’s wearing like a different kit than everyone else you’re saying a pink jersey but his his yeah his shorts have a a tinge of purple on it almost like the chiino Jersey juro’s purple PMA UCI question mark over Tad’s shorts as far as I’m concerned that dude can do whatever he wants just let him who gives him oh it says that it’s a it’s a tribute to the Torino football team that lost their lives in the tragedy of 1949 wow I have heard this I have heard of deep all because of the color of his shorts and it’s that deep that’s nuts it was also 70 years ago I think I I read an article about this the whole there they had a football team and the whole team crashed on a plane and died who oh yeah I’ve heard about that too and we’re just now and we’re just now doing this well I think the race like went right past the plane crash yeah oh okay oh so so he’s only GNA wear I was really confused like what why is this related at all so he’s only going to wear the purple shorts for one stage I don’t know about the shorts I haven’t turned it on today to see okay you know what I’ve always wondered is these these guys that have like the pink jersey or the yellow Jersey or whatever and it and it’s like pretty customized to have their logos on it um besides just the like Smackdown sticker on the front I’m like and then they have the bikes and it’s like did they show up with that stuff already on the team bus knowing Tad was going to be in pink for at least one day the Jersey they even the race as I do they just print it right after the Finish Line yeah it’s just heat pressed on yeah the organizers the organizers provide theey everything I mean he’s got like pink helmet pink shoes pink socks pink Bape his bike has pink stuff on it like that stuff was in the team bus when they got there yeah isn’t that kind of like uh let me just pack my pink helmet you know just in case I’m going to be winning this race think of the manufacturers that have to show up with that like it’s it’s like four teams maybe that show up with that stuff like isn’t showing up with like pink stuff yeah dude don’t you think don’t you think Adam robur showed up with his uh with his Podium sweatpants and Crocs for bwr very true yeah Drew that’s what I was going to say is like have you ever gone to a bike race and packed a Podium Jersey just in case you got on the podium yeah I have yeah yeah yeah you got to prepare for success bro I guess so you gotta you gotta go into the race thinking you’re already gonna be successful like if if they if the team mechanics already have a bunch of pink stuff on the bus POG is like well I mean I got to use that pink stuff before but you know what sucks is for like whoever ends up in second or fourth place or whatever whoever doesn’t end up on the podium or like they’re going to end up with all the stuff that they can never wear it’s like oh there’s that helmet that I could have worn had I won one stage of the jerro but you know never sees the it’s also the same thing if they don’t crash and you know crack their helmet on the ground they’re also not going to wear the spare helmet they brought anyways yeah but not pink Adam come on you’re missing Point Super Bowl when they win and then the winning team automatically hasir already made for the other team you know what’s hilarious you can you can buy the other teams gear from like China yeah you can find the other like losing team winning shirt yeah somewhere yeah I’ve heard of that yeah also it would probably blow your mind how much stuff doesn’t get used by a team like that you know what I mean yeah random spare stuff that is as somebody who’s just trying to get everything possible for free that does irk me a little bit Yeah but this is like an actual professional sport not this is related this is related I swear but when I was was like get when I had my license and I didn’t have a car I remember watching Transformers come out in the movie theaters and I remember counting like how many cars they blow up in that movie and it like made me sick to my stomach because all I wanted was a car and I’m watching them just blow up like Chargers and all these sick cars and they just every scene is a car getting blown up and you’re like couldn’t they just donate one of these to the Dizzle project and like give me a car come on I’ll take an Audi come on maybe you could write a letter to shy buff and they could hook you up now that guy’s so cool I like him he like me and him would me and him would jve well dude I’ll tell you what man the jro I’m I’m like I kind of want to see T do the double and I was a little uh it’s almost like I want him to win by like so much this week that he can just chill and ride into the like Coast the last two weeks he doesn’t look like he’s trying to chill at all man no you see the last stage yeah when he just did a two-up attack with Thomas for for no reason other than just like H seemed like a fun seemed like a fun thing to do so I just attacked off the front on a Sprint stage on the only Hill and you know almost stuck it to the line unreal even if he had stuck it to the line he would have gained like what two seconds for such a massive effort yeah uh yeah I mean that is that is the thing though right is like how you know he’s a 10-minute effort on a day where they were basically pedaling out 100 Watts for half the stage gonna take it out of him if anything he might have needed that effort yeah I mean it’s yeah I don’t I don’t think it matters regardless but like that’s that’s definitely not smart bike racing tactics well I guess uh similar to Keegan when you have talent in and Spades you can just do whatever the hell you want and you don’t have to think about tactics you just ride hard until uh get to the Finish but how much how much do we think POG is gonna win by what’s his lead now he’s already up by 50 seconds 45 50 seconds well I mean you can’t predict it off of what he’s at now it’s like stage three but well I mean if he’s already up by what’ you say I said if he was down by 30 minutes with that factor into your prediction sure I’m just saying we’re three we’re three stages in so you asked you think he’s gonna win by and then you said can’t predict it well I well he was like Tyler was trying to take into account his lead right now after three stages and I was like because he because he’s they’ve had one they had one Hilltop finish and he’s already up by 46 seconds and there Mountain stages to come 15 seconds a stage mhm it’s that math yeah another 18 stages five minutes 18 times 15 five minutes there’s 20 stages yeah I mean you got to imagine I feel like he’ll probably win if all goes to plan he’ll win by two minutes two to three minutes I’d say that match doesn’t add up Ty be more than that no no because I think what he’s gonna what’s going to happen is he’s GNA like just die everybody on one stage and he’s going to be up by like five and then he’s going to chill like if he’s trying to go to the tour after this and and has a chance of winning the tour he’s gonna he’s gonna have to chill like there’s no way he can keep riding hard and like where’s uh extending his lead where’s Jonas at with like his whole broken body and everything I think I thought I heard he just got out of the hospital so whoa is he not like just but he was in the hospital for a week two weeks so he’s not is he in is he out do they know I think they’ve already said that he’s going to be back for the tour yeah preparation maybe not ideal but he’s I think supposed to do the tour and W the tour I don’t know I don’t know if W will be and uh Jorgenson Matteo who knows I don’t know what Yo’s lineup is but Remco will be there so that’ll be interesting to see how Remco does conversations for July though ahead of ourselves yeah yeah definitely getting ahead of ourselves here do we normally even talk about the tour no usually we’re the number one tour podcast yeah I mean this is probably the most we’ve talked about European cycling ever right I know for talking about those races that Scott won that nobody’s heard of it’s true the ones that I actually won yeah I mean speaking of European cycling the traka also just happened I don’t know if we want to talk about that or if we just a bike pack any protests on Facebook I’ve seen all these protests in Jona against cycling really really yeah I thought I thought Jona loves cyclists no well I don’t know don’t like Cycles like the the people that are from there not people that move there all right is it just because of like all the influencers moving there and jacking up the house prices or what’s the deal probably has something to do with it you guys up the whole Road people like not obeying pedestrian traffic laws on bikes and being like menaces R it Scott dude I hate when people don’t obey traffic laws on that sounds like gravel so who the race you know so you want to know what my beef with traka is they’ve got mult they’ve got multiple distance just like Unbound they’ve got multiple distances right but they can’t decide or at least I don’t know the people like the pros signing up for the race can’t decide which one is the competitive distance like at Unbound it’s clear the 200 miles the competitive diff distance the 100 mile is the little baby race and the 350 is for crazy people not fast people like at at traka they have the same thing they’ve got uh it’s in kilometers but they got a 200k a 360k and then a five hundred something K but the I would say that the competitive fast pros were split between the 200 and the 360 yeah I think the problem was people didn’t realize it was in kilometers so they signed up they signed up for the 200 thinking like all right you know this is Unbound 200 except in Europe and then the people who actually knew how to do the conversion were like well clearly the 360 is actually 200 miles so I’m gonna do that one it was just too confusing I think Euro I think Euros are just scared of going going long man they see a they see a three and they’re like nope not for me who else besides Pete STNA did the 360 well Rob Brittain was second um I I mean I don’t have I don’t have the the finish the finishing list here um I think I think Sarah Sturm got second Danny strawberry yeah Danny strawberry got fourth did you say strawberry yeah she’s got a strawberry on her Jersey that’s the joke no that’s the joke no one can pronounce her last name so she just says strawberry really I don’t think we’ve heard that nice uh do you think it’s crazy that they just did the that they did do the 360 what do you mean like five four weeks before Unbound that traka puts on the 360 four weeks before Unbound is that crazy no that people did the 360 oh you think that like it’s a bad idea for for people who are planning to do one do you think at this point in the year May fifth or six like is there enough Fitness that’s been built for to be able to recover for Unbound I mean what I’ll say is that Scott just leaves what happened to Scott I don’t know he just left um yeah I don’t I mean I don’t know like [Music] the for some for some people the recovery from an effort like that takes so long that it would negatively affect your training enough in the following month that you probably wouldn’t be as prepared as you possibly could be for Unbound right I mean on paper you would think okay traka seems like really good preparation for Unbound because it’s around the same distance and it’s around the same race duration so it’s a very specific effort but at the same time like I’ve never done traka but recovering from Unbound Takes a Minute yeah exactly that’s so that’s what I’m wondering is maybe that’s why the field was split maybe that’s why some of the Riders wanted to do the 200 K just to make the recovery on the backside a little easier yeah I feel like the travel to Europe and and everything that goes into that too I feel like the race promoters need to put up a pretty significant amount of prize money for one one of the three distances not multiple they need to choose one distance and I’m fine if they choose the 200k as the competitive one but I think the 360 is is the OG uh tra distance so it would make more sense to do it for the 360 and make it clear like the prize money is for the 360 this is the competitive distance if you do the 200 you’re you’re just you’re pussing out like what if that’s how it is that’s how it is at Unbound like if you do the 100 I mean one or two Pros one or two Pros there’s no prize money at all but like one or two Pros is going to do the hundred and you know when you see that you’re like okay well you’re just you’re just trying to be a big fish in a small pond right now like that’s not impressive at all yeah at Unbound I don’t I I would say most people don’t even and this is not to go against the average cyclists out there this is just talking about the elite the elite category I would say for the elites most people don’t even consider the 100 to be a race it’s more of just okay you’re just going there for funsies cuz everyone knows that 200 is the actual race that’s what that’s what I’m saying yeah so I feel like traka needs to make make it clear that one why did so many people go to the traka this year that’s what I want to know it’s it seemed like all of a sudden there was like 50 athletes from the US that just went and take photos at all the coffee shops and Sh MC Cafe yeah go to the MC Cafe and I mean it sounded like a cool race and the race promoter I think his name is Gerard I met him in Africa last year super cool guy he puts on the gravel Earth series like I’m glad that they went it just seemed interesting to me that all of a sudden everyone decided to go to the same to go to the traka at the same year no one went last year I mean maybe people are targeting that gravel Earth Series yeah may do we know what the rules for the gravel Earth series are like is there a minimum number of races that you need to do in that what even is this I’ve never heard I think so last year you had to do two qualifying races qualify for what for the overall for the and there’s a series finale okay gotcha so you ended up having to do three I think you had to do two qualifying races and then you had to be for the be there for the SE series finale and what’s the finale uh last year was another race in Jona okay now they can’t do it there way to go guys too many protest they do love a good protest over there dude and what uh I feel like every other day there was like some March going down the street I’d join in no matter what they were [Laughter] protesting were they were they speaking what is the native language there catalon catalon were they speaking catalon I mean yeah I couldn’t understand it so it was something not that wasn’t English nice do you speak any other language other than English all right okay jeez citizen of the world SC think I’m disabled in learning languages I yeah I’m I’m there with you man yeah I could see that yeah like I I could never see somebody just picks up another language yeah have you tried I have tried briefly and just it’s too I’m so bad that I get so discouraged what have you tried Spanish okay I mean I took three three years of German in school and Len maybe maybe German was your calling maybe it just comes easier to your year no no it’s not for me it’s fine yeah you’re true American just one language American and that’s it I speak American do you guys want to do listener questions sure that’s probably a good idea do I want to what else you got to talk about uh I don’t oh actually we we could talk about did you guys get your uh your bolt care packages yeah have you used it yet I have dude when I dude picking up that razor Sky you you like texted us and you said something about like man this thing’s heavy I’m not even going to bring this on the airplane I thought you were like a little bit exaggerating dude when I picked that thing up I thought I was picking up like a freaking seven iron it was so heavy or or for the uh cyclist in the room uh like a stages left side power meter heavier than that I don’t know those things because they didn’t work properly that’s true that’s true they forgot the actual power metor half the time yeah uh dude it is so heavy though it’s like like I I usually have a little thing that I hang my Razor from that’s suctions onto the side of the shower and I thought that thing was going to fall off it was so heavy yeah watch out for your feet yeah break a bone I it it is cool though like I I thought it like I thought the weight of it actually made it easier to use because you could just wrench on your you know like not worry about breaking or nothing I mean you wrenching on your skin while you’re shaving bro power shave man you got to get through those hairs fast dude does this count as like are you usually shaving so hard that you break your like razor stick if you don’t shave for like two weeks and your leg hairs are super long sometimes the little razor head just like pops off okay maybe not on this one though hopefully not is it like you’re doing bicep curls with every upstroke I mean we know how little Dylan works out his upper body and so I’m just wondering like by the time he gets to his knee he’s just going to be so fatigued that he’s just going to have you should definitely make sure you remember to supplement your cre before your shower so that way you get a little bit extra boost is this is this helping sell this product right now talking about how heavy it is I feel like it’s not we’re talking to cyclists that is a probably why like I’m guessing it’s heavy reason people sponsor need to make a carbon fiber version give us a script but they don’t give us a script so then this is what happens bolt really needs to come out with a carbon fiber version of this razor that’s like 20 gr that’d be cool I’d be into that if we just come up with we come up with some alternative whatt said yeah yeah if we come up with some alternative name for it and call it the leg shaven nator 6000 then oh great we’ll just we’ll sell all kinds of razors because we’ll call it the leg shaven Ator is this just what we’re going to do with every sponsor we have we’re going to rename all their products probably does this one even have a name I feel like we need to just give it a name they don’t I don’t even think we’ said the name ofand have we it’s called bolt bolt yeah called bolt shave it’s a razor specifically for men for men who shave their legs yeah that’s what why are they assuming that only men listen to this podcast literally that’s what the box ass say Lally like 98% of our audience no no no no no no 97 97% is it actually 97 yeah I should have told him that when I that’s even worse that’s even worse than my YouTube channel my YouTube channel is like 95% really it’s like it’s still pretty bad that’s bad I mean what are you gonna do yeah I mean I don’t guys did you guys use any of the uh stuff that came in the the little bundle package yeah dude I did the whole uh I tried out the whole Spectrum really all of those products I’ve never used before like equivalent you know what I mean yeah what was it some kind of leg scrub it’s got like sand in it no no no exfoliating leg scrub he said so did it so did it provide a better shave or what Scott oh yeah oh yeah I mean compared to my why is he laughing so much dude that’s basically what I I don’t know yeah you could use that exfoliating uh scrub for as like carbon paste too carbon past does it not feel it feels like carbon P yeah oh yeah that’s too funny what’s the what we got a code what’s the code uh Bonk Rose 15 all uppercase and you can get the two smooth bundle which comes with the razor refills shave butter post shave lotion and and the carbon paste the carbon paste too oh and CBD recovery bomb what’ you use that for [Laughter] recovering I don’t know does anyone actually know if CBD works I made made a video about CBD a while ago and the research was okay well whatever your conclusion was must be the right answer there’s no other possibility I’m just so I’m just saying that the the research was inconclusive like there’s not there’s not a lot of research and the research that there was was like not convincing to me so I’m not saying it works and I’m not saying it doesn’t work I mean if the label says it works it probably does yeah it’s true there’s some there’s some hardcore CBD fans out there that get real heated when you say that CBD doesn’t do anything so I you know I don’t know I’m not saying it works or doesn’t work I’m just saying I mean it’s the same way that you feel every time Scott says that tires don’t matter that’s true I mean we all get heated about different things you know that is true we discussed this on the last podcast Adam gets real heated about editing for some reason you know Drew gets real heated about his Vo to Max Scott gets real heated about goats or whatever all right well hey uh Brian wants Brian commented on your photo and said your bike fit makes no sense to me and it should definitely be a topic on the next bong Pros can you can you tell people about your bike fit um yeah I mean you know I pull my bike out of the box and wherever the saddle happens to be that’s where it’s going to be for the next three years you know and just whatever stems on there yeah you know put a spacer maybe two sometimes I don’t I’m not really like the kind of guy that concerns myself too much with the details you know what I mean just like give me the bike I’ll ride it no fuss no mus That’s My Style you know that’s a good philosophy yeah how’s that working for you oh yeah I mean it it works great you know I never I I never worry about anything so so do those uh those Felt bikes just naturally come with the longdong stem oh yeah for sure they listen to the Pod you know okay they take our advice that’s probably good uh okay so yeah I mean the I I’m assuming he’s is he referring to the longdong stem or is he referring to the fact that the saddle’s so far forward I think he’s referring to the fact that if you didn’t have your saddle so far forward you wouldn’t need the longdong stem yeah but okay that’s like you need you need to have your saddle in the right spot and then you adjust your stem length after that is what I’m saying yeah so I’ve most people most people use their like a general rule of thumb for saddle for AF is like they use the acronym it’s like cops it’s like knee over pedal spindle so you try and get it to where when you’re at when your knee or when your foot’s at like the 3:00 position your knee is roughly over or just in front of the petal spindle yours is like The Petal spindle is like underneath your right glute okay no no no no it’s slightly it’s slightly forward ever so it’s probably maybe like a centimeter forward or two centimeters forward of the pedal SP that’s it it it looks it looks like it would be more based off of what what are you looking at the picture that he commented on it looks like your knee is is about to like is going to hit your handlebars H is that not the case no that’s what the Long Dong stem is for I think you’ve mentioned before though that you went to get a bike fit and this was what came out of it and you’ve just like that’s what you’ve stuck with right yeah so it’s not just you didn’t just pull this out of thin air and you didn’t actually just take it out of the box like this no no no no no I I got a bike fit uh what’s interesting is that I had my I been putting my Saddles slammed all the way forward basically as long as I can remember and I got a bike fit I don’t know a couple years ago and I was like you know I told the fitter I was like this is what I do with my fits I don’t know if it’s correct or not I mean I’ve tried to do the plum Bob thing to see if it’s roughly correct and it it looks like it is roughly correct but you know we’ll see and we didn’t change the for a at all so I was right this whole time my s needs to be slammed cool who’s your bike fter you want to give him a plug yeah it’s Reed balani fits by Reed Reed fits by Reed nice used race against Reed that’s how old I am are you calling him old I me how old he is what is that we’re the same dude I was actually he’s probably a little younger than me anyways good dude you got to stop reading these emails and then just leaving them as un as read so you gave me the email really throws me off dude I know you gave me the email and then like when I see that there’s like a new email in my on my I have all my emails up and it has a number I really bothers me so I just I literally just go and click it red great podcast and then they just get lost in The Ether we already have 69 questions in the unanswered bit and we don’t need Scott seven more that are going look at how many unready mails I have oh my God how many is that 175,000 175,000 unread emails you should just delete your email like why he have an email at that point yeah uh okay well this question comes from Mick uh Mick says hey guys I’m going to try and keep this short and sweet although it’s not very short uh have you guys ever experienced this strong desire to wax your chain after a training ride I recently got into hold on I recently got into waxing my chain with the Sila crockpot 4000 and I absolutely love the process there truly is nothing like the feeling of breaking the quick link feeling that slight grit on the Chain opening up your denatured alcohol and mineral spirits and getting a nice strong whiff of the chemicals to start off my waxing process right pop those suckers into those jars Vibe out to the rhythm of my chain while my Sila crockpot nator 4000 gets up to optimal temperature a few minutes later you get that nice crayon waxy smell that you remember from being a child I get a brief moment of Zen before finishing off and taking that chain out of the steamy hot wax my chain is now hanging radiating in the light of my dimly lit basement I Feel Complete and satisfied but anyways any of you guys get this feeling too or can you just not help yourself uh some chemicals in your wa this guy has to be this guy has to be yanking our chain right now so what’s the code now is a good time for the code does somebody know it Bon Bros bike wash is that dude the Sila code Chang every week so well this week it’s Bon bro Bon Bros bike wash yeah all all lowercase uh they switched it up on us cuz apparently I think they call it coupon crawling where somehow your coupon gets leaked to the internet and then anyone that’s not even a listener can use it how terrible I don’t know yeah so so they switched up to bike Bros B no Bon Bros bike watch uh uh have you guys got have you guys gotten the bike Spa from them yet are we supposed to talk about bike wash now too this is like a the bike Spa is what they call it all the things that we should talk about before we start recording this is like a new record we got two sponsored ads in one episode that’s cool all right no I’m just giving I’m trying to give some context for why they switched it to bike wash because I think we’re supposed to be getting want people to wash their bikes with yeah but with the bike Spa is the product all yeah I think I mean I got I got some of their bike wash stuff I haven’t I haven’t used it yet you haven’t used it I use it every time I wash my bike really I don’t wash my bike that often you’ve washed your bike this year Scott don’t don’t let everybody know that you actually care when you train as much as I becoming actually do need my bike today Scott is so on top of all these sponsor products Scott why do you even I didn’t even think you ever needed to was good [ __ ] nice okay Bon Bros bike wash check out you know what I was using bike Spa before I got that what what 1970s engine Degreaser found in my grandma’s house there you go okay so does it work better than that no well yes well God I thought you I thought you were talking about the other the other way you’re supposed to say it does work better Scott it does it does the problem with the um how do we have any sponsors how do we have any sponsors right now well the problem with the engine decreaser I mean that’s powerful [ __ ] but you’re then your bike like it’s impossible to get off it smells wait were you washing your whole bike with that well like the drive TR and then you know it gets all over the place you know feel like that would eat through the that would eat through the carbon probably yeah I don’t think it’s very good for your bike at all I’m pretty sure the Sila stuff is is carbon safe or at least carbon neutral all right is it carbon neutral is that can we say that it it doesn’t care whether you have a carbon bike or an aluminum bike or a steel bike or a titanium bike all right well carbon neutral also means something if you have a titanium bike that’s lame so carbon safe all right cool well uh we really nailed the sponsored ads this week I’m glad that was good uh Tyler says Hey guys serious question I have a 2023 epic Evo and I’m thinking about getting a question I’m thinking about getting a second one as a backup or a training bike I don’t know if this is a waste but I put a lot of work into racing bikes specifically mountain bikes I train on my road bike during the week and have a gravel bike as a backup if something is wrong with it but I only have one mountain bike and would hate to miss a race due to mechanical issues does this seem like a waste or an or a smart investment considering how much I spend on everything else in the sport appreciate your opinion thanks Tyler I have the greatest advice for you lay it on me take take the money that you would spend on that bike go to our YouTube channel and in our description at the top of that YouTube description is a link to patreon and put all that money into our patreon account okay that’s not where I thought you were going with that yeah I thought you spit some of your coupons yeah or actually one better go to my YouTube channel and at the top of my description is a patreon link but all that money in my patreon account there we go yes you can cut that part out of the podast thanks Adam that’s great so I I’ve only done the I’ve there was a point where I had three Cross Bikes and one would stay at home but I was also using a shipping service to ship bikes from race to race which was really convenient um because you always had a backup in case one did break in transit helpful but I don’t I guess like I’m I’m struggling to understand or think about uh maybe not struggling but what what could possibly happen with your mountain bike that it would be like under repair I mean if it just you know you need your suspension worked on and you want to do a race like I feel like with some planning maybe you could predict that um as opposed to buying a whole new frame or wheel or like a whole new bike I don’t know that’s my I would say I me if it gets to that bike just as a backup like in Cross I get it CU you’ve got the pits and all that but like mountain biking like you don’t need a second bike yeah so that’s what I was going to say so Tyler like in that case let’s just say Tyler you know smokes a tree and his frame cracks in half and he’s got a race two days later if if that’s the case then buy your backup bike right like go to the bike shop right then and there and buy another bike like why are you going to have a bike backup bike that you’ve already paid for just sitting there yeah this does sound Tyler you’re so smart that was logical that was so logical just just wait until you need the backup and then buy the backup right and then it’s going to be even newer at that point yeah wow and it won’t get stolen like it’s not a liability yeah it’s not a liability yeah exactly yeah I think cyclocross is a dumb sport in that way I think having requiring everyone to have two bikes is is stupid got to get away from it easier it shouldn’t be allowed shouldn’t be allowed yeah can you imagine if cyclocross had a rule that you had to just like every you know I don’t want to say every because Road they switch bikes but mountain bike and gravel you have to finish start and finish the race on the same bike can you imagine if cyclocross had that rule yeah it’d be awesome it’d be better be a lot more running heyen or may like you could have a pit could swap wheels or whatever maybe that’d be fine or instead of like switching bikes no you can’t even swap anything you have to carry everything that you think you’re going to need you think you’re going to roll a tu carry a tuby in your being like you swapping a bike it’d be like you have a whole pit crew and you ride through and it’s like you go through an automatic car wash and they just like hose you down while yeah while you’re riding your bike they just hose you down I love how I love how DJ compare like complains about how cych cross is so dumb because they’re on Antiquated tire sizes but then is advocating for even more Antiquated rules of you can’t swap bikes you have to be on the same frame and set up the entire is that how is that an think about it though what Dylan’s saying though could actually make sense if you got rid of the equipment requirements so say like open up to whatever tire size you want now you get to be more choosy because you’re trying to figure out what best bike setup is going to get you from start to finish without a mechanical yeah he’s already made it all the way back on the circle we’re still like at this point he’s yeah basically basically what I’m trying to say is they should just turn cyclocross into XO mountain bike racing you know right right or short course gravel yeah yeah or it’s just a long short track mountain bike race or just get rid of it I mean like why does like cycle cross only got existed so that people could stay in shape when they’re when they’re it only only got invented so that the Ries could stay in shape during the offse and now it’s turned into its whole own sport isn’t that races Road anymore it’s your best discipline why are you advocating yeah didn’t yous ago I don’t know I like uh oh now you’re on gravel now you’re a gravel influencer I I still like cross cross is a lot of fun but back the whole two bikes thing just always that always irked me CU bikes are expensive and having two of those things you dizzel so hard can you do every cross race with one bike Dizzle you should you know what you know what actually I think would be a good angle for you on YouTube it’s called it’s called the state all road because it can handle all roads including cyc Cross Roads the all Road code Rad Dad Dizz for 15% off 50% off 10 actually I think it’s 10 my bad it’s 10% sorry sorry 10% he’s lying about his code hey if it gets people to use it it’s kind of we should start just saying all of our codes are 50% off say it’s all 100% off it’s kind of like a thumbnail all you need is people to click on it whatever they tell you to pay when you do it they’ll refund you afterwards just don’t worry about it drew I think I think a good angle for you with your YouTube channel is if you start doing like these challenges you know what I mean like the ice challenge or I buet challenge no like I like the thumbnail would be something like Cracker eating eating 15 Crackers In 60 Seconds Challenge the cracker challenge you could you could definitely do that gallon challenge I’ll do the gallon challenge I drink gallon of milk live on my YouTube channel oh that’ll blow up yeah and then you have to bring back the gallon chall and then you have to do uh V2 test yeah a five minute V2 effort yeah immediately afterwards that’s assuming I get through the gallon which is like why would you not that’s impossible yeah it is if you not watch Lin’s divide video attitude it is you need to read some Matt Fitzgerald books and some Matt Fitzgerald quotes and then take on this challenge okay no what I Envision is something like I you know I rode the trainer for 24 hours type of [Laughter] deal with no with no like with no entertainment whatsoever you just stared at a brick W century and didn’t sit down the whole time or something yeah I did a century with no saddle and then the thumbnail the thumbnail is like your you got your red bibs on and there’s there’s like what no your bibs aren’t red cuz there’s blood there’s your bibs are red because shows them to be red for some reason and he it looks like he’s it looks like he’s sitting on a saddle cuz the seat post is still there you should yeah actually you should the the thumbnail should be like you replace your saddle with a knife and you’re like can’t sit down for a 100 miles stupid oh my God I’m just saying dude that’s the kind of that’s the kind of content that blows up on YouTu two more what other what other challenges can’t we think of I don’t I mean I’m not an idea man like I’m just I I got you started but you’re going to have to do this on your own this originated with the whole cycle cross season on one bike and not and don’t change a single thing the whole season don’t look I don’t think that video would do that well it needs to be something that mainstream people would freak out over like accidentally sitting on a knife after a 100 miles of riding you know I did the Continental Divide in Crocs yeah exactly I converted my Crocs into clipless you seen these YouTube videos that are like it’s just somebody running a marathon in weird shoes like hey or something and it’s got 40 million views yeah that’s genius yeah dude it is genius they get dude I’m not I’m not kidding you I think I’ve seen a uh I ran a marathon and hey video that had multiple millions of views yeah can you do Boston and hey yeah is that is that actually legal I don’t know I don’t know they amazing specifico rules I would think you’d want a helier race for that all right well Unbound is in five weeks I could do some kind of challenge at Unbound what what should the challenge be for Unbound I did Unbound with no water I did Unbound on road tires dude you should do it you should do it on one of those City bikes like one of those borrowed City bikes or something like that no dude State dude get on brand with State already man they’re like all about the fixies I could do it on one of their fixies yeah that’d be rad yeah I think Unbound has has been done on a fixie before though it has so 4.4 million views is what this video I ran a marathon and hey boom what was their time was it fast I don’t know I’m not gonna SC dude it took them like 20 hours to finish it yeah oh they had blisters and stuff oh God okay well hey this is a question for Dizzle and Dylan combined David says I’m looking at a car carbon fiber strider for my toddler likely the specialized what tires would be best also the Sila PSI estimates don’t include their tire size what would have what would have the best rolling resistance speeds likely won’t go above 5 to 10 miles per hour are inserts needed do you think obviously I would go tuas all right well we didn’t get nearly then they send a picture of the carbon Strider dude we didn’t get nearly enough stats about this person’s toddler like what is their toddler’s FTP what is their Max what is their to todders watch for kilo we need know yeah but I will say that doesn’t specialized have like a child’s version of the specialized Pathfinder that they put on their kids bikes they do yeah I’d probably go with that one uh I also don’t see any mention about like any Arrow equipment you know like yeah if if you’re not hitting the marginal gains like don’t even worry about your tire pressure although dude the CDA of a Strider bike is probably real low yeah but you could cut you can Superman so easy on those things yeah go full Tom pitcock style yeah so uh State also has a free and easy kids all right well okay they have their own they have their own ster if you want to buy that strider for your kid they want to bezzle radad they wanted a highend carbon fiber dud this person is considering buying a specialized carbon fiber Strider not some C State Strider the cool thing about the state one is is the kid can have that Strider and you can get a matching clunker and you can have matching bikes with your kid dude we don’t pretty rad there’s no one in our audience that wants a clunker not true not true Clunkers are cool man I think it I think we have a lot of clunker people in our audience and state makes Clunkers for those that want one Clunkers for the chunkers yeah yeah I’ll send one your way Dylan you chunker you someone someone sent a video or a picture of Ian Boswell doing a V2 Max test someone sent that to me too he’s straight up lied to me the irony of doing my first ever V2 Max test after retiring from road racing on my birthday but it’s from February of 2020 wow does it say the number guess in 70 yeah we got to have him on the podcast so that we can drill him about this yeah he’s got to straighten this out for us yeah we need to know those stats should should he be the pre- Unbound episode or the post Unbound episode let’s do it pree Unbound just not do those because nobody cares yeah there’s nothing to talk about uh someone else sent a a graphic of a wind tunnel test and it was a Jeep Wrangler versus a cow and the cows got pretty good slipstream I must say those things are freaking arrow round is that what you took your bike fit inspiration off of DJ a cow yeah yeah for sure nice very forward position we still vegan do yeah damn nothing’s changed since the last time you asked me like a week ago if you ever do let me know he’s just checking on his friends man yeah uh this one’s from Elijah Elijah says with all the talk about V2 Max recently I thought I’d wait I thought I’d ask about it myself I’m an elite racer in the UK racing nationally and a few uis here and there I have over a five watt per kilo FTP and I got my first [Laughter] this one for Dizzle I I should have read the whole thing I got my Max tested at in a score a score of 53 should I just throw I’m laughing because no this if if should I just throw in the towel now I’m I’m I’m laughing because I read ahead as I was reading it and it and it was like the exact same basically the exact same thing Dizzle said so he said I’ve got an impressively low score of 53 should I just throw in the towel now and I’m just laughing because that’s pretty much what Dizzle said after he got his v2z you3 really sucks 69 all right oh wow 53 dude that’s like everyday citizen like come on dude how in the world do you have a five watt per kilogram and only a 53 like cuz he works super hard dude those two things don’t up Elijah is a workaholic man I’m going to actually hold on hold on I’m going actually look up a V2 Max chart right now Elijah’s cat three for life with that yeah wow dude oh my gosh I’m guessing uh I don’t know all right maybe the test was something how old is Elijah how how old is Elijah uh Elijah did not say but he looked pretty pretty average like our age or well let’s just assume let’s just assume that um uh Elijah is 20 to 29 years old above 50 is superior top 2% so dude Elijah’s killing it Elijah is straight up killing it if you put all the other 20 year olds you hang out with on a bike you’ll beat them congrats elah but if you go to a real bike race with other real bike racers You’re Gonna Get Smoked Elijah Drew you’re such a hater I’m just being real you can’t just ignore reality dude you okay remember what I said about how Drew is made a complete 180 on this opinion listen right now and then listen back to that episode where he was like genetics don’t matter I didn’t say that I said Talent there’s a difference okay and I don’t even think I said it doesn’t matter I said I just don’t like it and that’s still true and now I really don’t like it because it’s against me and it’s against Elijah me and Elijah are teammates because I was say you guys should team up and throw down okay you have a v if your V2 Max is actually 69 though then you have a V2 Max that’s y you guys 12 points higher you guys keep talking about that relative to the general public and I don’t care about the general public I care about it compared to other Elite cyclists how do you know what El cares about you don’t care about Elijah at all do you yeah I should I care about somebody I’ve never met who lives on the other side of the world dude he’s a loyal fan yeah no look you guys are lying to Elijah if anything I care about Elijah more than you guys because you guys are lying to his face and saying oh yeah ignore the fact that you suck and spend all your money on bikes for the rest of your life like no come on maybe you need to accept reality and become a golf become a golfer that is true V2 Max does not matter in golf that’s true found that out yesterday yeah how was your golf uh I sucked no so are you saying that are you saying that because you have a high VO2 max and it didn’t help you with your golf game yesterday no it’s cuz I I have no idea what my V2 Max is and I’ve never needed to know for golf speed golf dude you need to get into speed golf I shot I shot 83 oh that is terrible God honestly why did you even go so to qualify I was in I was in the bunker on six holes two of which were green side on par fives and two uh I missed the green on five of them like I couldn’t even hit the I couldn’t even get out of the bunker at all so I was eight over on those it looked like it no I’m excellent at getting out of the bunker actually it’s one of my strong suit my golf G I’m really bad at not hitting it straight got so bad at one point I just took I took my hybrid and just like chipped it straight out I was like I’m not even going to try anymore it was embarrassing sounds like you always next year sounds like you should have used wider tires probably probably yeah my push card I think it was too heavy that’s what it was I needed wir tires how they like just get just ticked and they just slam their rackets on the ground does people in golf ever do that cuz I feel like absolutely playing yes I’ve done that before you get if you can’t even wear shorts there’s no way they’re goingon to let you get away with slamming depend Club on you should look up you should look up uh like YouTube highlights of PJ tour uh I don’t know temper or something temp hilarious speaking of that relative to gravel racing did you see John Borman get super pissed after he crashed at seot oh at seot yeah yeah what I got one person one person worried about the safety of the trails at seaotter it’s two of us now okay to yeah he he was pissed about the trail it was definitely the Trail’s fault well it does seem pretty dangerous everys it’s like dude don’t just predict that’s going to happen and slow down just a little bit just you know take a little I think as he was I think as he was crashing he called it a stupid sport yeah yeah he also just slammed his brain into the ground and so he might not have been thinking straight yeah that’s fair you can’t get a concussion that fast takes a couple days allegedly settle allegedly all right well hey we got to wrap this thing up but uh one more here this is from Julio Julio says t-shirts that’s all we want we just want damn t-shirts I thought we have T-shirts got I have I just have to I have the t-shirts and I have the logo and and I just need to put those two things together just pb’s and Jay those things and next week good to go promise next week we got bottles too I’m gonna we should do a pre-sale and yeah that sounds which one of you idiots is gonna organiz the pre-sale probably the same person probably the same person that’s doing the YouTube channel dude Scott Scott’s actually uh he’s he’s more impressive than you than you think he gets a lot of stuff done in the back end you not see him doing business calls before we started yeah you the phone were you on the phone with Celsius just now trying to get the sponsorship Drew also I don’t think you have any room to complain considering that Adam has edited every single episode of the podcast thus far pay him to do that so he’s just doing it yes we do Dylan said Scott that I I honestly didn’t know you can send we we’ll include Scott’s phone number so you can call him about the pre-sale of merch and you can uh contact anyone knows how to remove asbest let me know oh there you go all right that’s what I was on the phone about shutting it down getting out of here we’ll see you guys well hold on hold on If people really want t-shirts and they want us to design like send us in funny t-shirt design ideas if you want us to try and do something I have send us your favorite sound bite yeah your favorite sound bite it better be funny and it’ll just be email just in the email title just put sound bite no no I mean they need to design the t-shirt and send it to us without any of cop for that just send us a sound bite we’ll let the robots do the work yeah yeah oh okay true yeah all right we’ll see you later [Music]

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