One World in a New World with Patricia Lindner
this inspiring episode of “One World in a New World,” host Zen Benefiel welcomes Patricia Lindner, known as The Magnificent Mentor. Patricia, hailing from Germany, brings a rich background in teaching, psychology, arts, intuitive work, and human design to her role as a success architect for ambitious professionals. Her journey from a teacher to a teacher’s teacher and now a self-employed mentor showcases her dedication to holistic methods and transformational experiences.
Patricia shares her early connection to something greater, recalling her childhood affinity for Mother Mary and her intuitive grasp of Sophia energy. Despite feeling misunderstood, her quest for understanding led her to explore the depths of her soul’s history and her spiritual connections. This exploration has been a constant theme in her life, driving her to seek answers and embrace her unique path.
Transitioning from a traditional teaching role, Patricia embraced her calling as a mentor, guiding others to recognize their magnificence and embrace their shadows. Her approach is not linear but rather multidimensional, focusing on personal growth and healing. She emphasizes the importance of knowing oneself, letting go of what doesn’t serve, and creating a future driven by positive thoughts and emotions.
Patricia’s story is a testament to the power of self-discovery, transformation, and the courage to follow one’s heart. Her journey inspires us to embrace our own magnificence, explore our depths, and create a life aligned with our true essence.
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Namaste and in lak’ ech and welcome to this episode of One World in a New World I’m your  host Zen Benefiel and this week’s guest is an amazing woman who lives in Europe in Germany as  a matter of fact Patricia Lindner is her name she is known as The Magnificent Mentor she’s a Â
Success architect for ambitious professionals she uses a lot of human design in her work so  if you get a chance to explore that please do she is or has worked for the government of Bavaria for  nearly 20 years as a teacher to begin with and then ascending to a teachers teacher which is Â
An amazing journey in in and of itself she’s now self-employed uh as a magnificent Mentor a human  archaeologist and success Arch as she says human as a human AR archaeologist I’ll get that out and  success architect she’s got a diverse background in teaching psychology Arts intuitive work writing Â
Human design and energy psychology that she uses to bring a unique blend of holistic methods and  transformational experience Patricia glad to have you here so wonderful Zen what a great  introduction so great to be here with you thank you for having me on your amazing show oh you’re Â
Very welcome uh we’ve had prior conversations so we we know kind of the depth we can go to  so let’s just jump right into that my guess I always explore their depth of understanding in  their inner awareness when they got in touch with that how old they were what process was going on Â
In their lives and so on and so forth so let’s just dive into that when because I know for you  to be doing what you’re doing especially even going into the teacher realm that had to have Â
Been an inner desire of yours to begin with so when did you first begin to be aware that there  was something more than the outer world and the internal experience that you were able to Garner Â
I love the questions Zen because it there is this quick Journey back that takes place when you asked  the question um and I’m glad that I never talk about flashbacks right I never prepare anything  for an interview because I want to be surprised and I am surprised by my thoughts and my emotions Â
When you ask this question because I want to say that this is something from the early childhood  but I didn’t notice that this was it but I always had this connection to something bigger um I have  a strong connection to like mother Mary for example um and I would articulate Sophia energy Â
Right probably and I would articulate that as a three-year-old uh and everybody everybody was  like ah that is nonsense what she’s talking about and I even called myself Patricia Maria Dolores  that’s like mother Mary of the paying Dolores so I don’t know where this came from and I always Â
Had those questions you would okay so let’s just break off on that and and unpack that bit because  I find it interesting first of all you know the the questions that we asked most often we don’t Â
Get the kinds of questions that we would like to be asked in order to explore ourselves and share  with others right so then there’s the other side of gosh what is the history of our soul Â
Where did we live and be and have our movement in the world across the spectrum of our solar  existence and incarnations whether it be here or elsewhere and and I think we both agree that these  things are self-evident based on the information that’s available in the world today that this is Â
A reality yeah so with that connection with Mother Mary is that part of a fragment or uh  you know one of the things and the reason I say the fragment is that in reading the teachings Â
The ascended masters years ago there was a being known as sonat Kamara who uh is supposed to be a  planetary logos and the how he got that office was splitting his Consciousness or fragmenting  it a thousand times times into others incarnate so he wasn’t necessarily incarnate he had this Â
Massive Consciousness right that incarnated a thousand different ways and then he reabsorbed  those experiences in order to understand the Dynamics of the office that he was about to step  into I find that fascinating just to think about that by the level of activity wow so how would Â
That perhaps apply in in your mind what was the first thing that came up of with your connection  with Mother Mary wow and so so I so first of all I need to say I totally resonate with what you said Â
Oftentimes we don’t expect questions like these because I could tell you everything about success  and things but I’m in the middle of reframing what I’m really about to do and why I’m here and  so I’m grateful that we talk about this I think there is so much synchronicity in what you ask Â
Me absolutely especially coming out of Co where everybody is recreating their new normal yeah  yeah and I feel like so it resonated a lot when you said fragment um I never thought about that Â
Before I thought like maybe that’s my spirit guide because I used to really be a big fan of Jesus I I  used to yeah I I used to recall places I’ve never been to that were like those places where things Â
Happened and I could really have a picture of them and then look them up uh on the internet  later I like I I I I know that but I’ve never been therey right makes you feel really weird yeah and Â
What you do just oh okay okay right moving on yeah just moving on and I felt like maybe that is so I  always and I have been refusing to see what we are just talking about because it is easier to Â
Put yourself out there as I the one who can tell you this step by step method in X Y and Z to be  successful I can do the mindset work linear path yeah but this is really this is anything linear Â
It’s the nonlinear approach of multidimensional I think goes into a non-local scenery as well  yeah and so I think I did not really take it that seriously um but just what would you do Â
If you did what a strange part of all of that is so I told you the name of u m Mary’s name is Mara  doosa which is the Latin name for her and I called myself Patricia Maria Dolores and a thing that is Â
My ongoing theme in life and I never shared that before maybe a little bit um but not in the depth  of what it is to draw those things out there is this ongoing pain in my body which sometimes Â
Drives me nuts which sometimes feels like oh I just need to dive into that and embrace it fully  to know where this is guiding me to because you can’t deny it I mean you and I both know anytime Â
You deny something or you keep it aside it’s going to keep reappearing in Greater fashion  for you to be able to pay attention to it because it’s going to get your attention whereas you know Â
And this is one of the thing self-love right you embrace all the parts of your being no matter what  in love just as they are without attachment to change and then you begin to question okay what Â
Could I do what is yeah and so this is the aspect of the connection to Mother Mary that is like  she had such a lot of pain when it comes to her relationship with Jesus everything around her just Â
Feeling this immense pain and uh turns out that yeah I’ve been do you think the pain was from the  experience or from the lack of his message getting through oh wow so first of all being a mother of Â
Two it makes me give this impression that it is really a lot of pain when you think about your  son um needing to die being killed so I think that is a lot of pain but also I think there is part of
This message this message of love and resolution and Liberation that didn’t get through back then  maybe and it wasn’t he was the first one to say either I mean it aligns perfectly with  the vedantic philosophy that was in the vas 15,000 years or 13,000 years prior yeah that Â
We’re all Divine threads of unity Consciousness or unitive Consciousness capable of being godc  conscious now it doesn’t mean that we’re the creators right and they are plural in  the book what it means is that we can control or that’s not a good word to use we can create our Â
Realities we do create our realities whether we’re conscious or unconscious of it yeah and  I know you found that to be true so where would that pain because the trauma leads to Triumph how  would that process engage you in in moving from that place of pain to one of triumphant and um
Transcendence first of all um you talked about me being a teacher and that was for a reason I think  pain is involved in this as well because as a child as a pupil I I could see that and that Â
That that was so in the early 80s I could see that there’s something wrong just from the side of um  how schools work and I could see there’s something wrong in the education when I think of how I was Â
Brought up and there was a lot of um mental and physical violence um in my upbringing so  I feel that I was driven by this pain to create a better world a different way of Education new  cing strategies right for kids because temporarily anyway and working on actually creating structures Â
And things that you can Implement to yeah help your life evolve as well yeah and just today  so now that is many many years later and I’m out of working as a teacher I just had two hours of Â
Working working with my son and his friend because um they are going to write a final exam soon and  they decided they decided all by themselves it was a hard decision but they decided to ask me  could you just support um our just studying and learning for the final exam when it comes Â
To English because um you have a variety of cool stuff to share and then when they were working I  saw this amazing individuality and this greatness in both of them they are so different and yes  there were some when you speak of grammar there were some mistakes there were some misconceptions Â
In what they delivered but it was so great to empower them and to see their uniqueness in a  different way and I could see their faces lit up when I said there is so much potential you should Â
Continue and you should just try to be who you are and embody this I totally love guiding you  through this um and so there is this connection to teaching still and I have it too I I spent almost Â
A decade teaching high school and special ed and even at a residential treatment center yeah wow  and just having it’s not being heard and so these were adjudicated they’re either on their way to  potentially to juvenile detention or having just got out and need to process some things in order Â
To reintegrate and most of these kids just want to be heard they want someone to just listen to  them and and let them speak about themselves their hurt their pain their sorrow and their  aspirations and the teaching environment is in education today in our school in America that Â
Doesn’t happen no and you you are meant to be part of a system that creates more of the same and my  son is one of those pupil 16-year-old that want to break out of this crusted system and whenever Â
There is a task to do he would start to discuss it and just look behind the scenes and behind the  curtain and say oh this is nonsense I don’t know why I should do that because and then he brings  up an interesting aspect that thoughtful right critical thinking yeah absolutely I love that Â
And I can only support this absolutely that’s our other national deficit here in America yeah yeah  not only in America just just I projected on the rest of the world I I’ve just lived in America Â
And I’ve traveled the country and it’s now we got a big problem with critical thinking yeah and so  maybe this wound or this pain is part of that and also it’s part of the physical pain which Â
Makes me so I think I’m this sacred Rebel that wants to I would agree reform or just bring some  new aspects a new awareness to people so the next aspect is talking about medicine so I’m  not medically trained I need to just um share that but I’m well read in things around Medical Â
Treatments and medicine and um also experienced as my father passed away um because of a severe  form of cancer and I could not stand the way that doctors Western doctors would treat him  or would want to treat him and so I think that is again part of this maybe Collective pain of Â
Not being Sovereign being treated like in this big machinery that cre money I mean cursor is  approach based on symptoms not causes right right how do you see that shifting so I think  there is more awareness in smaller or maybe even larger circles um I still see when I sometimes I Â
Go to the doctors and I bring up this different form of awareness I just see the eyes roll but I  need to say I also met Western doctors that are open to more than what they what they took on or Â
Learned at University but I think that is more and more accepted it is more and more accepted  that we are this body of energy M um but as long and I need to say but I hate to say but as long Â
And as long the rest of it’s true right and in addition in and in addition to that as long as  and this is just my opinion and I hope no one is going to reach out and just harm me for that but Â
That is my opinion as long long as pharmaceutical Industries and the medical system just are going  hand in hand this is not going to change so fast it’s the mentality of the meter drop right the Â
More we can burn and churn the more profit will be had and so the agenda of profit over people in  Planet continues and what we need to do is shift it to people in Planet over profit which is the Â
Kind of conversations we’re having you know I I found it interesting you you know you mentioned  the shift in how small groups maybe larger groups are are beginning to address this I I have two  things one I went through with a psychiatrist after my Spiritual Awakening at 18 that told me Â
I wasn’t crazy I’d had a spiritual awakening and then took me upstairs in his two-story historic  home office and read my tarot cards yeah here’s a psychiatrist in the mid 70s in the midwest in  a very conservative area that just totally blew me away that he was willing to even Explore that Â
Let alone share it with me then many years later it was U after my U show on on one world I moved  into a commercial project and one of my hosts was a medical doctor it was a holistic doctor and had Â
Actually an uh special on ABC produced because he had taken a woman that came to him with chronic  ulcers and took her through various regressions past life regressions identifying where the event  first happened yeah which was according to her she was part of the French group during Â
The inquisitions and they captured her and um drove a hot spear through her abdomen wow when  she first experienced it she came right out of the session just hysterical after about a dozen  sessions she was able to look at it watch it with no emotional response whatsoever and her ulcer was Â
Gone yeah yeah that’s amazing yeah and I could be past lives and I also am a strong believer in  the fact that suppressed emotions mainly anger or even rage are causing ulcers back pain migraines  and when you treat them with medicine maybe a a pular is something that you would choose if you Â
Need to show up maybe sometimes it’s a bridge but go you need to go to the root cause uh to resolve  the issue and so I think that is the way that I want want to go the path that I want to walk so Â
It is more to you can own your power when it comes to Medicine you can own your power when it’s a  decision making process when it’s your education when it’s religion when it’s spirituality so you Â
Own the power so and I came up so and I don’t know if this word is loaded or not I I refuse to use it  it’s about healing and there could be any sort of healing there could be physical healing that could Â
Be mental healing that could be Financial healing so this is what is inside and it just needs to be  addressed and embraced and I’m grateful may be undressed and embraced yes because we got to get Â
Really naked with it we’ve got to really look at ourselves at a core level how we think and feel  about ourselves and about life right now does this healing shift toward an attitude of gratitude what  kind of difference does that make because I’ve heard you mention that before I think could yeah Â
Could you repeat it so I I heard you say when gratitude comes in what when you make the shift  from that constricted perspective to an attitude of gratitude which which opens you up what what Â
Do you notice in that process so I think it is always and I have this amazing um person that  I connected on LinkedIn um he’s the Gratitude guy and I think gratitude is such a huge door opener  even portal opener to so many things because it makes you wider it raises your vibration Â
When you see things from this angle or Viewpoint of gratitude um it releases something inside of  you there is expansion and um I think it is like of a a lot of chemistry shifts in the brain that  brings up these hormonal experiences the cortisol which comes from the fear which condenses us so Â
Gratitude is the pathway to I think health and well-being but as well it’s hard to be grateful  for the trials and tribulations right how do you work through that the tribulations the trials and  tribulations right the the crap that comes up that we have to face address move through yeah however Â
We do it so first of all I feel like um when you face those turbulences and you see them as  something that is so a trigger or um the shadow is part of the whole Spectrum so you need to face it Â
You need to address it that it builds a bridge to your magnificent to the light Po to the love part  and I think um for me a big shift took place when I got to know logosynthesis I don’t know if you Â
Know it um which is um a model for growth and expansion and self-development and the minute  I got to know it I could deal better with those triggers emotional triggers mental restrictions  um and could see them as a part way because whenever a Shadow shows up um it’s got a gift Â
It is the gift because just think of the night sky it is pitch black dark and so just look behind you  and look behind me you only can see the beauty of what is on the dark like background right Â
Because it is dark and the other part is radiant so the brightest stars shine most beautifully in  a dark night sky and so I think we just need to see both ends and embrace the Shadow and seed Â
Or embrace the trigger um as a pathway to to the light aspect now can you offer maybe a real world  experience where something has triggered you you you had a particular perspective of something the  way you looked at at it that when it happened it triggered you initially and then you saw Â
Beyond that to your responsibility in making the choice of how to perceive it or the perspective  to have yeah so there are many so I I just need to decide I’m sure there are can you what flashed  right like earlier in our conversation was there anything that flashed immediately yeah Â
As we said we can go deep um there is a big trigger that whenever I shared about pain I  shared about um me not feeling well and I shared that with people and especially I just talk about Â
The biggest trigger when I shared it with my mom then she would dissociate so this this this was  just come back where’d you go great right so I’d say hey there is a lot of pain and I don’t know Â
I’m so frustrated I I can’t stand it I don’t know where to go no doctor can help me and she’d say oh look was this there yesterday H and the neighbor and I were like what is going on why isn’t that Â
So frustrating because you’re in a moment of pure vulnerability and you’re trying to  be Fearless in it right because in real you know there’s trust and there’s vulnerability trust is  love-based vulnerability is fear-based because you you feel like something could happen right Â
And then you know to have that total deflection away from your intended conversation that’s got  to be tremendously frustrating so how how did you bring it back or or have you been able to  so um I need to tell you it took me a really long time I’m speaking of decades because um Â
Because you want it first of all which means you’re pushing or pulling her to move right  yeah so sometimes I was disappointed sometimes I was like what needs to happen to me do I need  to die so that she sees how I’m feeling so I had those scenarios that’s an extreme right extreme Â
And then I thought I need to become wiser so I need to study all the ancestral blockages and I  really did deep studies in epigenetics ancestral teaching generation coding to understand my mom’s  habits and dissociative patterns so this helped to some extent you kind of became the epitome of Â
Tub’s fifth Insight right seek first to understand before being UND do it yeah so I really wanted to  just do it um with my my just intelligent brain and understand what was going on and there was  emotional well the emotional intelligence would come into it as well yeah yeah because you have Â
To create that space to communicate and that’s an emotional process that’s not intellectual yeah and  then I did some logosynthesis just to help me live through the trigger and the triggered moments and  so honestly and this is not a long time ago I don’t know if it is the constant work that Â
I did and I guess it is um and my mom is still alive thank God she’s still alive so I confronted  working on her I confronted her and I just said why are you disappearing whenever I’m in need of Â
Your presence um you are are my mom and so it was like this wakeup call I could see I could see a  different face when I made her face reality um and believe it or not it shifted it really shifted um Â
And I think there are many layers there is her ancestral wounding her upbringing her horrible  story of being given away way as a baby and um so there are many aspects and now being confronted Â
With what I needed I told her what I need and that was a hard one for me because I was like  no don’t ask people never ask people don’t be a burden for others I told her what I needed Â
And she could receive it and uh this changed a lot that’s awesome and and sometimes you know  now that you’ve expressed kind of a little bit of her history sometimes we’re bereft of being able  to give others what they need because we don’t know how yeah that’s the root so we’re afraid Â
To try and then dissociate right right and so this is so whoever needs to hear that when when  you don’t know what you don’t know and I didn’t know about her story of being given away being Â
The daughter of a Catholic priest given away uh just from day one to a hospital where they would  just do experiments with her that was postwar um and then finally finally finally after quite  some time she was adopted by um some relatives so this is just this bonding phase and the phase Â
Where a baby need needs to have this connection to her mother being left alone so I totally get  it that she needed to dissociate when it came to ah I listen to your sorrow I’m there I’m full of Â
Love I’m open it was not something that she she so it would have brought her to her deepest wound  right yeah yeah proceed with to healing and I I can relate to her being adopted at six weeks yeah Â
And I don’t know what my history was from I know I was given away at Birth so I spent some time in  foster care I know from being around it that I did not get the touchy Fey warmth from mother that all Â
Babies need and I’ve often wondered if that’s what really gave me the impetus to see others  as family everybody and not be concerned about getting my love from a single Source in that in  that regard and you know as an adoptee my parents were so loving unconditionally and supportive and Â
Encouraging me to be curious and mischievous and all those kind they regretted it later but and so there was that mix of you know I started this way and that I experienc this so why would Â
I want to go back to the disconnection yeah when the connection was even so much beyond that and  gave me the ability to connect with others from that place because we’re all connected and then  eventually science began to prove that totally and now that you say it so my mom is a great Â
Connector she has this huge family sometimes I envy her because she has this huge social  network so there are similarities in your stories oh absolutely so back to your story though in your  process now coming in that’s one facet of it and then you shifted from being a teacher in to Â
Being This Magnificent Mentor right and you just mention it right before we went on that one of  your stories that was included in a compilation just suddenly came to mind this morning and so  how did that affect you in in participating with others and finding that reflection that honoring Â
The acknowledgment of yourself regardless of how the book did yeah right the book sales National  bestseller and all that kind of stuff that’s great however the experience of it what did that offer  how did you receive it so in the book which is called corporate dropouts um it is initially Â
Um an anthology of stories where women and men drop out of um being employed and then becoming  self-employed and interestingly and this is like so many synchronicities my story is called a body  Compass to alignment that is my chapter and so I think I need to really shift to this more of this Â
This healer part but I don’t want to call myself healer maybe um it is more of Alchemist something  like that don’t call yourself anything just do what you do let I think people come up with enough Â
Labels you don’t need to have any right um and so because I did not have the capacity or nobody in  this crusted world of Education could hear what I wanted to implement my body again my body would Â
Create an IM immense amount of pain I could not even crawl out of bed because my my fingers my  back my knees my everything just hurt so I could not drive a car and I had this leadership position Â
As a teachers coach or teachers trainer and so I decided to um take one year off but of course as  I said I didn’t want to be a burden I didn’t even want to be a burden to the government um thing um Â
I said without any payment and I wrote this story down in yeah this chapter of corporate dropouts  and um my body and this is what is an ongoing story so I I could not tell you oh I’m there Â
Yet uh there are some aches and pains and some strange things going on sometimes but it feels  like my body keeps this wisdom or has the wisdom to guide me to more more and more alignment and Â
So I thought um so I did all those thousands of apprenticeships that could be human design that  could be logo synthesis that could be Soul art that could be improv theater you name it so I  could really give you a list with thousands and thousands of things that I did because I wanted Â
To figure it out I right you were curious enough and you had the ability time and wherewithal to  explore all those things yeah it’s fascinating and what a wonderful gift to yourself yeah thank you  for saying that because that adds another flavor because I thought like oh she’s the crazy one that Â
Is the endless seeker of something and I heard people say ah couldn’t you stop it you are so  like always looking for the depth of everything funny how people tend to limit others as well as  themselves and we constantly do that we it’s like we don’t realize that you know the god participle Â
Right if you’re familiar with English and mechanic I was an English teacher and my mother was so she  wanted a preacher and a teacher and got both and then some um she is uh just she was wonderful Â
Woman and now I’ve lost my point because I got caught up in her recent passing and uh she had  dementia for a number of years didn’t know me for the last five and uh at her funeral I got Â
Up thinking I was going to you know go through this Litany of points of order and praising her  and man I just lost it I just I didn’t ball like a baby but it was um very emotional and I did not Â
Anticipate it at all I thought I was going to be this stall you know 66 year old man that stands up  in front of a a group and delivers something which I normally do but this was just too much and uh Â
I’m trying to remember what my point was to that I think that is so important that you lost the point  because one can see one can really see and witness this men’s love between you and your moms and Â
That is such a gift that you just share it in our conversation and I’m so sorry for your loss Z yeah  you know it it had been coming for quite some time so it wasn’t that much of a shock and yet like we Â
Normally do I held back the the emotions like okay I’m you know until that moment and then the dam  burst and away it went um as an educator though teaching me English and the god partile that’s Â
Where I was going participle is a noun or it’s a a verb ending an ing that then becomes a noun  or adjective so I love playing with language right and and it’s so simple the participle is is simply
Being and you know there so like wow I never thought about that right when it first occurred  to me it was like oh I got to share this right so I wrote a book about it called the god participle Â
Um one of my you know meanderings and I love to be able to do that she gave me the gift and the  inspiration of wanting to write and express so I appreciate that for her so back to the storyline Â
Of how you took that chapter now you you mentioned your self-examination further and looking at okay  where can I go with this now that this gift has reappeared in my own writing back to me Â
As a reference point to kind of wake me up again where are you going to go with it what what kinds  of things do you believe to be possible for you to to take that and apply it professionally in Â
The Practical aspects of the work that you do yeah because that’s where we go right if we can’t make  something practical and not necessarily always pragmatic definitely of service too yeah what  might that look like so first of all I think everything that I discovered for myself myself Â
And for my own healing and expansion and growth is something that I want to give to the world  and one aspect of this journey was when I did a meditation I don’t know if we talked about it but Â
Um I was led into my heart space um and the lady said and when you enter the heart space you are  going to discover what you are all about and what your purpose is so that is like six years ago mhm Â
Um and I entered my heart space and it was Pitch Black talking about black again and I was like  really disappointed possibility though blank I didn’t see that so I was a bit frustrated but Â
Then um as I practice a lot of spiritual things and as I am a very visual person I just thought  I’m going just on purpose I’m going to light a match just with my intention and so that’s Â
What I did to light up my heart space and what I saw was thousands and thousands of people in  this cave and they stood in front of treasure troves or behind treasure tropes or next to Â
Treasure troves and I you talked about weeping I started to cry because I lit up the space so they  could see how amazing how magnificent they are are and so now my mission and my vision is which is a Â
Really Broad and big one I want to help people see how magnificent they are because there is  magnificence in everyone and that’s not just the light end but that’s also embracing the shadow  part of who we are and seeing us as magnificent people who are here to bring this magnificence Â
Forth to serve to serve the world and um I want to help people heal I want to help people alchemize  their amazing gifts um and that could be in your education that could be in health that could be Â
Around stress that could be in relationships so that is where I’m and with the explation that  you had in that year right you got a wealth of tools and training and material that you can draw Â
On to help that process now the other you know we always and for marketing I’ve got a couple  master’s degrees in business and heavy in you know the first one actually my bachelor was Heavy  in finance and I got into project management and organizational Management in the marketing aspect Â
We think that you know there’s this push or pull in the marketing world of trying to find clients  rather than placing yourself as eloquently as you as possible and allowing that magnetism to draw  those people most necessary to you now that that takes leap of faith patience time perseverance as Â
Well as your passion and purpose so how do you see that with just from from that perspective  do you see evidence of that yeah because I used to book a,1 cookie cut approach programs in how Â
To Market how to build a business because I am a teacher as you know so I did not know how to  uh create a business and none of the cookie cut approaches worked for me but what you just said Â
Is like this is working for me just showing up in who I am and that is magnetizing exactly the  right people when they hear me speak about that and when I talk about I love when people show up Â
In their weirdness because look at nature nothing is just in order and people when they work with  me they say ah I just I’m so hesitant sharing this aspect or sharing this picture that I have Â
And I just said go ahead yeah uh just share it I love seeing who you are and there is no right  or own or good or bad there is and that’s the reason I’m doing these podcasts with people that Â
You know like you that are willing to step out and talk about this stuff to share these inner  experiences that we’re often either bereft of or if we do have them we don’t share as we spoke of Â
Earlier because people think we’re like kind of crazy in doing so because they’re not used to  that it’s unknown to them they don’t know how to respond but alone interact right or share their Â
Own so my hopes are with these kind of discussions that others will see yeah it’s okay or gosh I had  that happen to me too now I might know a better way to deal with that right right and they don’t Â
Have it if we don’t share it and it’s funny I was just talking with a um guy the other day that the in Target markets right we’re trying to figure out what Target markets were for him and  his organization it’s called Beyond Being Human so he deals with a lot of the multi-dimensional Â
Stuff and you know it’s the it’s the younger generation and I said here’s some evidence of  we’ve got 14,000 subscribers as of today or thereabouts and according to the statistics  that YouTube offers 65 is% of them are under 44 wow they’re they’re in between 24 and 44 Â
Actually so that’s a thirsty group evidently and I’m glad that that uh is happening one of the  main things that’s really surprising and that 177% of my viewers come from Russia oh that’s interesting it’s not interesting it’s not so it is so intriguing right inging and I Â
Find the Russian population by and large my wife’s Russian um and exploring their culture  their Educational Systems the kinds of things and what we were talking about earlier with  Valentina morovan and her uh dissertation that got her the academician title from The Academy Â
Of Sciences it was on the global mutation in humanity and and how genetically in science  in the last decade of her studies which is what she Drew from she found the evidence that were  of This Global Ascension that’s taking place now that sounds really out there right but here’s a Â
Scientist that’s discovering this and sharing it we think you know that maybe others in the  country are aware of that and that’s helping to mold and manage their culture and personality  appearing on the global stage yeah so I think one step in this direction is that you share Â
About it and um I’m appreciative of the fact so I didn’t know about this scientist and I want  to dive into this study because that sounds really intriguing it is it it’s it’s boring  it’s a dissertation you know she speaks in in Russian and it’s uh got English subtitles and Â
Of course it you know she’s delivering her paper so uh if you don’t like to sit in the  classroom you’re not going to like it however if you just read what’s being said it is absolutely transformational wow so speaking of transformation and and your process and and acknowledging that Â
Yes this new notion of how to attract clients is more in flow where it’s based on vibr vibration  and frequency rather than advertising and whenever I try to behave show up create in a certain way Â
That business experts told me you need to do X Y and Z you need to wear this color just use  this just use these words it never worked for me and I even felt like a failure well wasn’t Â
Authentic no it wasn’t it wasn’t and the more I grew grow into my own weirdness the more I find my people yeah and that’s amazing how and and there’s science to back that up now one of Â
The things that came out of my mouth and I often have these just really profound things come out of  my mouth makes me wonder where the hell they come from right yet there’s the words one of them was Â
We cannot think our way through a system built on vibration we have to sense our way through  yeah and it’s backed up with this whole quantum theory and even you know Urban llo kind of backs Â
It up and as the grandfather of quantum thinking is that we have this capacity and to draw and feel where to be go and do and it goes back to the banic philosophy again right so there’s all  of this ancient stuff how do we bring it present and applicable on a global scale Â
Because we need it right now our planet’s in danger our people are in danger we can’t get  along there’s people who are speaking openly about the rationale of how to get along but  because of the polarization they’re being seen as inauthentic or still this you know Â
Power hungry control Monger um which is kind of again back to the critical thinking and lack  thereof we we’ve been programmed um and power Bloom presents it eloquently in the Lucifer  principle of how a few control the media and lie to the masses and they believe it yeah yeah to
The so how do we shift that how would you see that from the own personal perspective in your  own dealing how could you advise another to look at things differently in order to glean  a more Clear Vision and less chaotic yeah so for me it’s not about f fiding other people’s Â
Perspective because I used to do that and that is not a long time ago that’s just a couple of  years ago um I think it is producing more of what I believe in and spreading more of what Â
I believe in just putting the emotions and the power into what I want to create more of  and not fighting what I don’t want to see in the world because when I focus on what I don’t want Â
To see in the world then I create more of that exactly where you f that’s a law of attraction  Right Where You focus your attention this how I have eventually interpreted it we’ve got to  have and with the element of advice yeah which I tend to always give right yeah and focus and Â
Discipline of where we put our attent attention intention and interactions when we can get clear  on that we don’t have time for the distractions no no and you can’t convince anyone and I just  recently talked to someone who also read I I think you read it the psychology of the masses um which Â
Is the fear-based guidance in the way that um systems want people to go right um I think it  is really focusing on what you want to create more of and not fighting existing systems that Â
Is what I saw when it came to education I want it to be the the revolutionizer no what is the word  revolutionizer revolutionizer not revolutionist no not revolutionist that it I would say evolutionist  because again you’re not fighting Revolt means you’re fighting against something evolving means Â
That you’re flowing naturally yeah and I think I went from this place of oh I want to convince I  want to fight what is wrong to ah I need to let go of this fight and of this friction that I create Â
And I want to focus more on what I want to create more of and what I want to see in the world now we  say that what evidence can you offer in your own life that demonstrates that that actually is true Â
And it works just going back to what I experienced in the afternoon when I saw my son and his friend  and I just did it the other way around I just let them be who they are and now they can came to me Â
And they ask me when can we do the next lesson when so and they really don’t like English when  can we continue they want to grow and they want to expand because I don’t criticize them and Â
I allow my son as as you beautifully said to be the disruptor or the one that doubts what is the  existing um notion of something MH um so I don’t fight that I listen deeply I just see the beauty Â
In who they are or who he is and so I can expect his growth without any expectation but I see it  this is the evidence I see that my son is amazing he’s going to be wonderful at what he does when it Â
Comes to relationships when it comes to a career that might not be mainstream right well and orbe  it for a mom to be Prejudice right towards your son uh however with your background being able  to observe that and report on it without the emotional attachment gives it that much more Â
Credibility because it you’ve got the two there you’re not just talking about your son it’s both  of them where two or more are gathered right the old saying was there am I also um and it’s  true because you’ve got that Collective curiosity creativity Innovation willingness to explore the Â
Other and each other yeah as far as the goal that you have in front of you now imagine that guys if  if we could do that more often how much fun we would have with life instead of having you know Â
The the Monday blues you know Mondays you we need to have Mondays like Fridays right how can we make  that absolutely absolutely and I just needed to laugh because you talking about evidence what is  an interesting and maybe a really positive development I [Music] see serious grounded Â
Businessmen I need to make a pause and women open up to discovering their human design their  energetic blueprint their business energetics and rely on that they are uh they have this energetic  blueprint and that that this is so speaking their language that’s their Competitive Edge I don’t Â
Want to see people be competitive but they they grow in to who they are and they don’t need to  have this elbow mentality anymore because they are individuals that thrive without the pressure that  they put on themselves the control they from the outer competition to the inner competition with Â
S I don’t know let’s see what I can do right and then it’s surprising to you which is also  surprising to the others because you’ve taken that competitive got to be better than you yeah out of Â
The picture you know you just have to be better than you right so I did not convince them I did  not fight people that said oh that is woo woo crap what you are talking about so I can be there and Â
When people are attracted by what I say what I do what I offer fine but I don’t put in energy  to convince or fight anyone yeah that’s that’s no need it’s a waste of energy anymore now in order Â
To we’re kind of coming up on our time together for now um what would you suggest for others  that they may be able to explore for themselves and see evidence in a relatively quick manner in Â
Their lives based on the work that you do so and your own discoveries yeah so what I discovered is  one huge aspect is knowing thyself and could be just discovering the ancestral lineage or  false narrative or the energetic blueprint and I think that is the major aspect know thyself Â
And then getting rid of everything that is not you makes you grow into your magnificence and  uh without any effort and that is really a fast process because I just had a lady who signed up Â
For three like 90 minute sessions with me and she sent me an email and she said and she was really  devastated she said life is like a V vacation because I see everything through different eyes Â
And that is such a major shift there is no um time Factor it doesn’t have to take years and  years of putting the work in there is something that is possible in a very short amount of time Â
When you are open to maybe a Cutting Edge process and maybe not so Cutting Edge maybe it’s just  natural within you seems Cutting Edge because you never thought about it before right and we  do those things that that we tend to move beyond the simple because we think it’s too simple it’s Â
Got to be complex that’s how our nature we got to categorize title label you know compartmentalize  everything especially from a Mal’s perspective so that we can manage it all well that’s that’s you Â
Trying to manage it what do you what we flip that and let it manage Us by the way we’re able to pay  attention to what’s coming to us I I what do you think of the theory of life like a individual like Â
A Tess right you’re familiar with the the geom geometric Cube that morphs and is constantly  enveloping itself so I perceive that you know our intentions are like the extension of the tessera  where it goes out and it touches things we don’t know what those are going to be yet but it’s our Â
Creation right because it’s what we’ve intended to create and then as we continue in our life  on a daily basis kind of like Ry says when you have the question let life answer it right so  you experience that and you envelop what you’ve created because it’s seeking you just the same as Â
You’re seeking it yeah how how could we first of all does that make sense second of all how do we  apply that more often yeah so it makes 100% sense and how do we apply it so what came to my mind Â
Immediately when listening to you was we should so I want to avoid those words um let’s shift from  being driven by the past whatever the past is is if this is this life or many lifetimes but as you Â
Said you are so and that is for me it is thoughts and emotions that you put out there that create  your future from where you are now so you are driven or pulled by a future that you co-created Â
Or created if that makes sense absolutely does and I see it as harvesting our past yeah and  just cutting the cords of all the negative false narrative defa SEC Tre running through your brain  and veins and energetic fields and create this future where your thoughts and your emotions when Â
They come together they are like a like a canvas force a force yeah I love that yeah cool cool so  paron gift for our audience a gift yes a gift so there are many gifts that I can offer what Â
Comes to mind is uh whenever someone is open to a human design chart reading and I can call it human  design chart start reading in your show uh because that is known I do it in a slightly different very Â
Intuitive way I GI um 30 minute sessions where people can get in touch with their chart or just  go in a certain direction on a surface level but they walk away with a lot of benefit or the other Â
Thing is that I I I totally enjoy I carve out space for people I call them illumin calls when  there is a blockage a pain point that they want to heal and just think of pain in a huge variety Â
Um I just listen to them listen deeply and they are in they have center stage and we figure out  what does it take to solve that what are the next steps what is possible and where does this come Â
From why do they feel like they are pulled back or they can’t move on or they can’t resolve that or  there is a lot of frustration I give them as well that is my illumination call that is 40 minutes Â
Just for you well what speaking of treasure troes what yes thank you so much Patricia this has just  been an awesome conversation that was deep and wide and formative and engaging inspiring and  inviting others to step up into their greatness and thank you for that thank you so much Zen for Â
Your beautiful questions for offering this safe and Sacred Space and for having me on your show  my pleasure always and Namaste and in lak’ ech thank you for sticking with us for this  episode episode of One World in a new world I’m your host Zen Benefiel and I will see you next time