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Jane Thompson est guérisseuse intuitive, coach en dons spirituels et conférencière internationale. Jane a développé une sensibilité aux énergies après avoir vécu une expérience de mort imminente en 2008. Elle a été emmenée à l’hôpital pour une maladie soudaine tôt un matin, et dans l’après-midi, la maladie avait progressé rapidement. Le fait de quitter son corps, d’entrer dans la lumière et d’être sous la forme d’un esprit a profondément changé sa vie. Le fait de vivre une expérience de mort imminente (EMI) libère et ouvre des voies qui n’avaient peut-être pas été empruntées auparavant. Cette expérience et d’autres séquelles ont été très difficiles à intégrer dans la vie de Jane !

Après s’être rétablie physiquement, elle a eu la chance de travailler avec des chercheurs et d’autres professionnels spécialisés dans les NDE, ainsi qu’avec des guérisseurs de confiance, qui l’ont aidée à traverser une période de transformation intense. Jane a beaucoup appris en traversant ce processus, et après avoir suivi une formation officielle et affiné ses compétences, elle a su que c’était une partie très importante de son chemin de vie que d’aider les autres à travers leurs propres transformations, transitions et guérisons personnelles.

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There was so much pressure in my head I could feel the veins – – popping in my head And again I had that thought of I can’t take this anymore And it was right at that moment that – I completely disconnected from the external world I in a way disconnected from my body

I definitely disconnected from the pain at that point the sensations And I started looking around – inside of my body I was being shown – almost like a movie that you would see in health class maybe in middle school or high school of the blood pumping And

I could see that I could see what the internal organs looked like I could see cells And it was just an observation I didn’t really think anything of it I was just – looking as I traveled I’d like to welcome to the show Jane Thompson How you doing Jane

I’m good Alex How are you I’m doing very good Thank you so much for coming on your show I appreciate you coming on to tell your unique story – of your life’s journey so far which has had a couple of ups and downs let’s say

Throughout it So my first question is what is your life like Or what was your life like prior to having your near death experience Well my NDE I had just turned 34 so I had logged in sometime – as an adult I was very much – into – – career

That was my main focus I was a real estate agent which is a seven day a week – job It’s – from the minute you wake up to the minute you go to bed and you’re on – all the time And I enjoyed it I liked

The challenges of it I liked the movement of it And this was in 2008 so the market was not – great So it was a very competitive – environment – – which I liked And it was cutthroat which I didn’t like But

I felt like I was willing to – put in whatever effort I needed to move forward in a really ethical way But work got most of my attention and I had a really serious boyfriend and we were – talking about marriage and getting closer and closer to that

So relationship – wise things were good – I was happy with him and he was very into work so we gave each other the space to do that – ANd I you know probably – on the surface everything looked really great

And – I probably would have told you that I was happy but there was still that part of me even before my NDE where – – it felt a little bit – empty and kind of like that feeling of this is it It just didn’t feel full to me

And I was – doing what – – I thought would bring happiness kind of You go to school you get a job you – – are successful you fall in love But as I would check off each box it wasn’t really fulfilling me in a deep way

And I knew I had trauma and things that – needed healing and so I would go to therapy And – spirituality was always very interesting – to me and I dove into different areas but nothing really – stuck or nothing really resonated although I did have what I would say are Christian beliefs

So I was just really plugging along And I didn’t know any better – Now that I look back I think oh that – didn’t seem too great But at the time I thought this is pretty good I’ve got a good life right So there wasn’t any major

Struggles or issues You were just kind of coasting essentially doing well doing well And just on the outside At least on the outside right – And doing well for the most part on the inside But there was that emptiness that always lingered even from when I was – little

When I was a small girl I even remember that being there So what happened on the day that you had your near death experience The big day the day that – changed everything – It was August 22 2008

My near death experience happened – in the emergency room So we got the exact time It was at 100 and 20:00 – p m That day The night before I hadn’t been feeling really well and – I went to bed early And

When I woke up the next morning I was hot I was sweating I was burning up hot but I still had the comforter the covers over me And when I moved to – try to take the blankets off I couldn’t move my body

And when I would try to I was experiencing – excruciating pain It was the type of pain that you get those all over body aches that you get – when you have the Flu except it was like 1000 times – worse more intense than that And

I was fading in and out – – It was very early in the morning The sun was just starting to come up so – my bedroom was just starting to light up And – each time I would open my eyes I could see that it was brighter

So I knew that a certain amount of time had gone by And I had the phone next to me my cell phone which is so interesting – looking back because – my habit at that time – was to plug my phone in before bed in the living room

But something that night before I just brought it into my room And thank goodness that I did because I finally got enough – energy or strength – to get the blankets off of me I reached for the phone – – and I called – a family member and I said

Something’s wrong – I feel awful I’m in pain – I’m burning up – I need to go to the doctor And she said okay let me get dressed I’ll be right over I don’t remember anything until she – came to the house to pick me up

I was just completely – It was just blackout for me And – we first went to the hospital – – She saw what I looked like so we went to the hospital Instead of trying to get to the doctor

The first hospital that I went to was the one closest to my house – And they did an MRI but it came back inconclusive So – they sent me to a different hospital By the time I got there I was I was hurting – I – couldn’t hold up my head

They had me in a wheelchair to get me into the ER – My head was just hanging And I was really I mean I could feel myself dying At that point I knew my body was quitting – – And as I was waiting for the CT scan there

Everything around me became – very amplified The lights in the hospital are pretty harsh anyway those fluorescent lights – But boy were they beating down on me At that point There were – kids that I could hear in the waiting room down the hall And it sounded like they were screaming And

I told – someone that was with me I said those kids are so loud And she said they’re really actually being pretty good And everything was so amplified EVen the clock that was on the wall the second hand as it was ticking I could hear it loudly

And they came and got me for the CT scan – – At this point they suspected kidney stones so they needed to get the IV in before they could do the scan A special type of scan that they wanted to do – By this point I was so dehydrated from that fever

And they weren’t letting me drink or eat anything They couldn’t get a vein in my arm to put the IV in – And I was lying there the mattress that they slide you into the CT tunnel with – And I was lying there And I remember – – that’s when I started

Trying to leave my body That’s when it wasn’t just – blacking out because I was sick or in pain I could feel myself – trying to leave my body And every time the nurse would poke my arm – to try to get a vein it would pull me back in – – And

I was a little mad about it I wanted to leave – I knew what was taking place And I told the nurse I said just get the needle in because I either wanted to be in or I wanted to be out

And so – he got the needle in went in for my CT and I don’t remember any of that – – I remember afterwards – being taken – – to the area in the ER where I was going to wait for the doctor to see what to do next

I hadn’t had any pain medication at this time I was completely worn out My temperature was 106 degrees and I was fading really fast remember – feeling like or I remember having this thought of I can’t – take – this pain – anymore

I can’t take any more of this pain – And right at that moment I closed my eyes – and I was burning up from the fever and I started getting – very cold all at the same time – And I started convulsing I could feel my body shaking all over – my head

There was so much pressure in my head I could feel the veins popping in my head And again I had that thought of I can’t take this anymore And it was right at that moment that – – I completely disconnected from the external world I in a way disconnected from my body

I definitely disconnected from the pain at that point the sensations And I started looking around – inside of my body I was being shown – almost like a movie that you would see in health class maybe in middle school or high school of the blood pumping And

I could see that I could see what the internal organs looked like I could see cells And it was just an observation I didn’t really think anything of it I was just – looking as I traveled And then I had this knowing of I’m looking at a – dying body

That – I’m dying – – And it wasn’t so much a thought as it was just – a knowing of I’m dying And oh my gosh this is what it feels like to die And – I wasn’t scared I really had no emotion around that knowing You would think I would have

But I had no emotion around it – And right at that moment I popped out of my body It was very quick It was a split second And I was up on the ceiling – looking down at the scene below me and I could see

My body – lying there – on the gurney but I felt myself up here on the ceiling and – it didn’t make sense So I needed a moment to orient – to what was going on And the more that I realized that

The real me I was up on the ceiling I looked down at that body and I realized that’s the shell of me I didn’t see – – any life in that body anymore – And I saw the scene around me doctors nurses the couple of – people there that I knew

That were watching everything that was happening And I was just taking it all in – I was just looking around Observing all of a sudden I began very gently – very slowly floating – up And I was backwards because I was still looking down – I was very Very very

Gently – floating backwards and up And the walls of the hospital started to disappear machines – that I was hooked up to were disappearing The – bodies were no longer visible What I was now looking down at were these – little balls of – – white light

That was everybody’s soul I was seeing everybody’s soul And I saw how everybody was connected – by this really thin iridescent line – that looks exactly – the way a spider web looks if you catch it just right in the sunlight And I was just taking it all in

And then I had a moment where I observed that – all these little balls of white light all these souls – were really bouncing around They were really buzing around And – I thought why are they all running around like chickens with their heads cut off

Was the exact thought that I had And there really wasn’t judgment attached to that It was just an observation of why is this happening I don’t understand From my perspective I didn’t understand – – that busyness and what looked like frantic energy So I kept floating backwards – And then I was

Really in what I think was the in between space for a little while The void it was very black was very quick I got the feeling I wouldn’t have wanted to have stayed there for a long time

And then I – very quickly got sucked into a tunnel – And the tunnel was very black but not scary at all And I was moving through it – like I was on a ride at the amusement park

Having the time of my life – – It was fast It was fun It was thrilling It was exciting And – that was also very quick moving through the tunnel – – And then I immediately plopped right out of the tunnel and I was in this – beautiful brilliant clear white – light

And there was such a contrast from the tunnel The tunnel is black and fast and the white light – was bright and it was very calm And so I needed a second there to orient to this change as well

And as soon as I – settled in there the first thing I immediately felt was the deepest peace that I’ve ever felt in my life just an overwhelming sense of peace – And it felt safe – and – warm And I felt very loved I felt very comfortable

I felt very cared for – in that space And – as I was – feeling the peace then I started really feeling the love that really started getting soaked up And it was truly unconditional love I felt very seen when I was in the light I felt – very seen

For all parts of me – – and very accepted And then more safety comes in when you feel seen and you feel accepted and loved – more safety settles in and – I was just taking it all in It felt so good – It felt very replenishing And I started noticing

I knew that my body wasn’t there but I could still feel – me in a sense – – my soul the part that’s uniquely me – – And I started – noticing that there were holes – that were being filled in

And I started feeling more and more complete – as the holes were being filled in And I had this – – understanding that it was – wounding that was being healed I was getting a healing I was getting a huge deep profound healing And I was noticing how it was all

Taking place – And it was very gentle very loving very – caring and understanding And the more the holes were filled in the more I felt almost as if I was blending – with the white light But I was still also my own unique vibration my own unique – – self

And then with that blending then I started to realize that this – white light this beautiful white light it’s also me – I just had that understanding that I’m not separate from it It’s me I’m part of all this vastness this beauty that I’m taking in

And I was loving every minute of it – And I – then at that point started to notice that it wasn’t just me that was there I – felt – almost like a crowd around me but a really comfortable crowd – And I realized it was other souls that were there with me

And I didn’t have really a lot of time to understand that because right at that moment I heard – It was that inaudible voice that I heard – You have to go back – – Wow And that was I mean that’s like a

It was like a gut punch – That was the last thing I wanted to hear because I was so – much – in that moment – I was so present for that moment and it felt so good that I wasn’t thinking about anything else but that – And so to hear

You have to go back I did not want to hear that at all – And I started to protest I said no Know I don’t want to go back Please don’t make me go back And then I heard it again – You need to go back

And – I knew that’s what was going to happen I protested a little more though And right then I felt myself go backwards into the tunnel Quickly and then quickly – right back into my body in through the top of my head It was like I got sucked back into my body And

I had a little bit of the pain come back I experienced the pain just for a brief second and it was enough for me to know okay I’m back in my body I’m back in this world Here I am

And then it was total blackout until – – much later that evening when I – went into pre op to prepare for – what would be my first surgery to get well again So – when you went into your first surgery or any of your surgeries

Did you go back by any chance or that was it No I did not go back I had a brief out of body experience – during the first surgery that night where I – popped out quickly – – looked down I saw the sea of – – that bluish green scrub color And

And then I popped back in and then that was it That was just a little quick – How you do – – exactly Oh there I am What are they doing What is it Good Solid All right let me get back in there So when you were on the other side Did you

Were there any guides – Were there any relatives – Was there a deity anything like that show up It was just me and God – – really And it was beautiful – to have that I get so emotional still to have that direct interaction It was just

I’m glad it was that way because there were no distractions But yeah it was just me and God And when I did feel some of those other souls come up I do wonder what was that Were those family members that had passed – I just don’t know what the answer Is to that

Because it might have been even more difficult if you would have seen family members – or other people you would have really been fighting and protesting Yeah kind of like they get to be here I want to stay too This is not fair

No fair no fair – No fair Because that’s the way life works Yes it does So And what did it look like It was all just white light essentially or was it like – anything else Or was just white light It was just white light It was so you know

To have that tone of white almost seems like it would need to be foggy but it wasn’t foggy It was a clear – – white – light that was – – all around me and so it held that space It kind of held my soul I guess – you could say

But that was all that I saw there Now when you came back as every near death experiencer I’ve ever spoken to you come back changed You definitely – – come back a different person than when you walked in to wherever you walked into I

I wanted to ask you how did you personally deal with it psychologically with the – limited machinery that we have down here to process these things I mean it’s been a journey and it’s a journey that still continues It’s coming up on – 15 years It’ll be 15 years in August

And – – I – just a few days ago had a big light bulb Aha Moment So it is continuing to unfold for me – But right when I came back I was not equipped I did not have any tools to deal with that I had no understanding really

Of even what a near death experience – was – I had heard of it but I thought it was people who had a brush with death I honestly didn’t know it was an actual thing that – was being studied That just wasn’t a part of

My learning throughout the course of my life – And so when I came back – – I knew – – for a fact there was no question I knew – that I died

And I knew that I had gone into – a white light – that I believed was God – – that loved me But I didn’t have anybody to talk to about it – I mentioned it to a couple of people

And – those were the two people that were actually standing there when I did die And so – they couldn’t hear it They wanted to move on – from that portion of what had happened I really think they were I mean they must have been completely traumatized to stand there and watch that

And then I Those were the two people honestly that I trusted the most with that information And when they didn’t receive it well I gave up for a little while on trying to talk to anybody about it And I remember after my second surgery

I mentioned it to my surgeon at a follow up – doctor’s appointment Bad idea – Bad idea You’re the best science guy He did not want to hear it And he actually laughed – He chuckled about it And so that just – shut it down I just shut it down

And I really was – pretty sick – for a good three months – after my NDE – – And so I had a lot of time to sit with it just on my own because I was so sick that – if I wasn’t in the hospital

I was expected to be in bed – or on the couch And so I had a lot of time – on my own – to – think about and try to process and integrate And I was going back a lot – during those few months – And then I would come back in

And – I remember some people saying don’t you want to watch TV Or do you want me to put in a movie for you – No I don’t want any kind of distractions here I just wanted to think about that

But I didn’t have anybody to talk to – And then I started to doubt myself thinking well could I have made this up And I was on a lot of pain medications during that time And – I kept thinking well maybe once I heal once I’m – off the pain medication

It’ll just seem like it was all a dream But then what happened is as soon as I was – off the medication – everything else felt like a dream and the NDE – felt more real than anything else – That was – very confusing And when I was better I was

I needed to go back to work and – start taking care of myself again and I couldn’t – I would go – I remember my first kind of big outing – – is my boyfriend and I went to – a shoe store and it was one of these warehouse – places

So it had the really high ceilings lots of people and I had a full blown panic attack I was so – sensitive because I was blown – wide open – during my NDE I was so tuned in to everything and everyone

To be in a space like that was overwhelming and I had a full blown panic attack And he got me out of there – and trying to make sense of it We just thought well maybe because I’ve been in the house for a long time it’s first time I really went out

But I would go to the grocery store and I was so sensitive I – was picking up on other people’s spots I was picking up on other people’s emotions And I had never experienced – anything – at all like that before

And – I didn’t know what it meant I didn’t have the tools for it And so I ended up staying home for about a year and a half almost – two years I stayed home and it was the only place where I felt like I could kind of manage the energy around me

But I was scared To go out was scary especially when I didn’t understand what was going on I didn’t understand that I didn’t even know what an empath was And – so to try to understand the sensitivities was just impossible And even when I would stay home

I remember a lot of nights where I would sleep with the lights on I was really frightened – because I could sense – so much – – hustle and bustle around me even when I was at home alone And

We had a really bad snowstorm – And it was one of these snowstorms where everybody stays home You can’t get your car out of the driveway nothing Everybody stays home So outside – was very quiet too And I had started to get curious

Really weirded out by a couple of things that were happening – I loved watches and I had a really cool watch collection I couldn’t wear my watches anymore – because every time I would wear one it would break It would stop working and then I’d try the next watch that would stop working

And – – the automatic doors like at Target they weren’t opening for me It was like they didn’t see me – And so we have this huge snowstorm and – – it’s downtime for me to start thinking about all of this stuff

And so I started Googling – is what happened – And I googled something – like can you wear watches after you die – Something like that And that’s when I started pulling up – all of this research about NDEs – – and the after effects of NDEs

And when I would read the list of after effects I was just checking off – everything as I was going down the list And that was a huge turning point for me – to be able to say this is what happened to me I had a near death experience

It’s an NDE – There are PhDs that are researching this I’m not the only one that this has happened to And the reason I can’t go out – is because I have all these increased sensitivities So understanding it was a big turning point for me – – and

I still couldn’t go out though I still couldn’t – find a lot of information – about – how to manage the sensitivities This is before – there were amazing – podcasts and YouTube channels interviewing people that this has happened to So I was really kind of flailing around

But I knew I had to get my life back again I was still very young I was only 36 at this point And – – so I really went into research mode trying to figure out what other people were doing trying to figure out what researchers were saying to do

And another huge turning point for me – was my friends were worried about me They weren’t hearing from me anymore they weren’t seeing me anymore And – I’ve always loved music always And – one of my favorite musicians was coming to town – and my friend said come on

Let’s go They were trying to coax me out of the house And I said you guys are crazy I can’t even go to the grocery store – without – losing my really feeling like I was losing my mind – and being scared to death

But you want me to go sit in an arena with 20 000 people That’s never – going to work But they – were convincing and they said we just want you to show up and if you leave 30 seconds later

We’ll be proud of you for trying – – And so I reluctantly agreed to it One of the best decisions I’ve ever made because it changed my journey What happened was I play piano and I play guitar so I listen to music a little bit different because of that But as soon as

He started playing the guitar and singing It was just like it was just me and him And I sat – through that – entire concert hour and a half 2 hours whatever it was And when it was over I remember thinking to myself how – did I

Do that I don’t feel drained – I don’t know what anybody around me is going through when I went home after that I really kind of meditated on that a lot And what I came to realize was when I came back from my NDE I was tuned in – to everything

And what I needed to learn how to do was to tune out And even to this day I’m always tuned in – So it became – – a skill to tune out And going to that concert – – and really enjoying and listening to him play is how I learned to tune out

And it’s also helped me to channel – better When I When I’m doing healings I’m channeling the person’s higher self which really takes concentration and you really have to go blank – in order to do that And I use the same – – process

To channel as I do to tune out in my everyday life It’s kind of a weird thing when you think about it but it’s really focus And I just started – gathering up tools like that in all of these random ways And then I eventually connected with – Dr

Janice Miner Holden – who I mean she’s one of the leading researchers on this She and I live just – a couple hours away from each other and she was very gracious and really helped me a lot – During some of my Googling

I found a dissertation that someone had done – about how relationships change After someone has an NDE it’s something like 70% to 80% of people get a divorce It’s really high – And reading her research really helped me to understand and – – formulate what had gone on – So

I was hurting – for a couple of years afterwards and I would say now – – I’m 15 years out from it now I feel almost like I’m in the sweet spot of it now where – – I’ve learned how to manage a lot of the after effects I’ve gone

And I’ve healed – – so many of my traumas that were unhealed that I didn’t even know were there And now I’m in flow which I am loving – Flow state is as close to being in the light – as you can get That peace It just feels so good Yeah it’s

I agree with you 100% – As someone who gets into the flow state every once in a while In the creative in the creative when you’re in the creative space and you’re just kind of in there it’s wonderful It really is wonderful It’s liberating It’s really liberating Very much so

It does sound like you must have thought you were going out of your mind before you Googled that I mean you must have just Am I losing my mind I thought I was going crazy – I really thought I was going crazy

And I really didn’t want to tell anyone – because I thought what if they think I’m going crazy And that could spiral Yeah That could Spiral out of control really quickly At the same time I knew crazy things were happening but I didn’t – feel crazy

You were just trying to process it essentially It wasn’t like you were like you literally losing your mind It was just like there’s so many things happening You’re just like I can’t – – process this It wasn’t coming from inside

It was coming from outside And you were trying to deal with what was happening coming in essentially Right right Because – I felt completely bombarded – by – all of these really awarenesses that I had And it was I mean it was a great experience

It was just too much It was too much – and Yeah complete – and total It sounds like – you were frying the circuits – Literally The nervous system could not deal – – with what was being Coming Your CPU couldn’t process this Essentially

Your mind – not only wasn’t equipped for it it just couldn’t – physically process this It just was too much Yeah – I don’t think the body is equipped or able to feel everything It’s indefinitely No indefinitely definitely the impact on my nervous system especially – as time went on

No But – it’s really interesting because again from my perspective from talking to so many near death experiencers a lot of the things that you’ve said – – are – very in tuned with what I’ve heard before Yours is interesting because your after effects – were heightened – to a very high level

I’ve heard of other high And I’ve heard of other people who’ve always had paranormal issues – or psychic abilities or things were dormant and they’re like I saw Grandpa at the edge of my bed when I was five – You had none of this

And you had no training whatsoever – Your family wasn’t – into this stuff so you truly were out at sea without a paddle Like you were just floating out there And then all of this stuff happened And – – again the word process – – is the thing

Psychologically – and physically process – – what was happening to you It’s a pretty interesting thing Okay so – we’ve gone through the dark night of the soul if you will You’ve kind of gone through – the battle – You’ve come out on the other side Now

What are you doing with these Abilities now What is the work you’re doing to help the world at this point I do energy work I’m – a full time healer – And I part of what I see is – I see everyone’s – potential which is really – the true self

Your original blueprint before – life and trauma and conditioning and all that happened And I take you from here to there And it’s all with energy – work and talking about – spiritual ideas and principles and working through traumas healing traumas to connect – – this gap – So everybody can feel

Flow state really all the time and feel – almost like they’re in a meditative state all the time And to feel that peace And I am grateful – that – the sensitivity – is so pronounced because I don’t think I could do this work – – without it

And I’m also very grateful that I’ve learned that – when I’m off the clock or when I’m busy doing something with my daughter or trying to do – really human things that I can tune it out now But I No I was going to say it just reminds me of

Not to – make this juvenile but it reminds me of a superhero – who all of a sudden has these new abilities that they have to deal with – and how to control them Because if not it could destroy them It really could Literally destroy them And again

Not trying to compare you to a Marvel superhero by any stretch of the imagination No But that but that kind of analogy it kind of makes sense because – I’ve seen enough movies in my day that – when they have abilities they just can’t deal with

If they don’t learn how to hone them it could be very detrimental to the person who has them Correct it Take you down – It could take you down – very quickly – Yeah I’m very fortunate to have a curious personality And so I had the motivation to Google And

Other Otherwise if I had just sat there I mean who knows what would have happened – to me But yeah it’s it’s a good question And it is a different lifestyle too I wouldn’t say it’s a normal way of living It is a more solitary lifestyle

I need a great deal of quiet – in my world – – to stay sane I’ve had to adjust my life too – – I fought that for a while but I’m good with it now But – it’s a whole new way of doing things that needed a massive amount of adjusting

What is the biggest takeaway you had from this near death experience There are two – I would say – the – biggest – takeaway is the amount of love is there for us We are so loved – – and we are seen You know I wasn’t just I realized I wasn’t just seen

During my NDE I’ve been seen my whole life and I was – loved my whole life too And so – we are all loved – that way We are all – seen for who we are and what we’re doing for better or for worse in that moment – – And it’s just

Deep true Unconditional Love And the second biggest takeaway is and this one’s layered – That peace is available to us We just have to – get there And – that’s kind of like what’s the meaning of life We’re here to learn We’re here to heal our traumas – We’re here to

Strip away our indoctrination or conditioning that we got the first part of our lives and – return to our true selves because that’s where that peace is And so – we feel separate from that love and from that peace But we’re not We’re not at all separate

Just things have happened to us that – – have created these blocks And – so it’s there It’s just journeying healing and journeying to return to that Now I’m going to ask you a few questions Ask all my guests What is your definition of living a fulfilled life The more we can

Be in our joy And the more we find ourselves Playing That’s an interesting response I wasn’t expecting that one to come through The more you feel that you have time for play – and for fun And I really do think that we were meant to come here to enjoy life

And there will be challenges and there are I mean the world’s a crazy place especially right now But when we find those times to play – – and to do what excites us and do what brings us joy that’s – truly our purpose

And I think that’s – how we will find – the fullness – in life and – have that feeling of I feel pretty good I feel pretty whole even in this body – and having this Human experience

If you had a chance to go on a time machine and go back in time – and talk to the little girl that used to be you what advice would you give her Alex you’re going to make me cry I would go back take a minute It’s okay That’s an intense question

I’m so sorry I didn’t mean to break you down No I love it It could be a drinking game of every time Jane cries during an interview It really could turn It could become a drinking game – Okay

Well that question makes me very emotional – I would go back to that little girl to little me to young me and I would tell her – – everything is going to be okay Everything – is going to work out You go do you – You go play – You go have fun

Be true to yourself Don’t listen to what other people think because that says more about them than it does about you – And – I would tell her everything is happening – for a reason and everything’s going to be fine You’re going to make me cry now for God’s sakes What would

Can I ask you what would you go tell young Alex Oh God Yeah yeah yeah Boy this is This is my show darn it Turning it around Dose your own medicine I’ll tell you I mean I’ve I’ve been I’ve asked that question a ton of times

And I’ve been thinking about that more and more lately believe it or not But – – to go back to my young self I think everything’s going to be okay man – Just hang in there Understand that everything that happens to you is happening to you for a purpose

It is not happening to you It’s happening for you Amen You are loved When you meet that mobster at 26 be careful That’s another story altogether It’s going to be a long ride but it’s going to be one hell of a ride

And enjoy yourself And man don’t take yourself so seriously – – Oh yes God don’t take yourself so seriously – And don’t – worry about just the mundane stupid things of everyday life – Don’t worry so much No one cares In 100 years

No one’s going to remember that mistake or that thing that you think was a mistake or that no one cares No one’s watching – Everyone’s dealing with their own crap Everyone – is And – I love what you said about things aren’t happening to you

They’re happening for you – BEcause that is such a true – statement And when you’re in it it doesn’t always feel that way but that is such a true statement And – we are all exactly where we’re supposed to be no matter what age we’ve been But you know the young

The young parts of us had to care about what other people thought Part of the process Part of the process Oh God it is But man I always love saying this to people I’m like imagine if you and I went back and we were like 20 with our brains today

The damage we could do in this world Oh my Yes Yes Yes well and young people – today they Get it much more than we did that’s for sure Oh they get it And they are interested – in all of this And

I don’t know that they have a lot of adults around them to help them put shape to all of this but yeah they’re on another level than we were that’s for sure They come programmed from the factory a little bit different than you and I did Definitely

It’s a different thing But they’re coming – to keep the evolution of humanity going If another generation like ours or our parents would come in it just wouldn’t move So there has to be something – coming in behind us that’s a little bit more ready more evolved innately

In their experience as a soul coming into this existence – or in this incarnation to be able to keep moving things forward Just like we – are definitely not our parents our parents are definitely not their parents Generation by generation things are moving forward and moving forward

Sometimes more painful than others – to move forward And I have kids so I understand They look at their their They look at like you want me to work Grandpa did what – in a factory and he made how much And like And then for 40 years Like it just didn’t

It – – completely – doesn’t compute to them They just don’t even understand – how that’s even a thing It doesn’t register at all And they really understand nonduality – I don’t know if they know that they understand nonduality

But they really – feel it – And it’ll be interesting to see how that shakes out But our generation We you know a lot of us I see this You know calm as a common thread with – healing work

A lot of us are breaking – those generational trauma cycles which is – a hard job and to draw that line in the sand and say it stops here – and that will benefit our children But it is hard work And We’re kind of you know

We’re building this – – road – from – here to here – And – that’s dirty work You show up to work – with your Imagine if you’re building a literal road You show up to work and your clothes are clean and you’re freshly showered

At the end of the day your clothes are a mess you’re sweaty smell bad – That’s what we are doing And that’s okay – because I’m happy – to participate in building this road – for our kids and their kids to – – just – glide down hopefully

Well I always call our generation the bridge generation because we are – a bridge between the old and the new because we understand the old because we came from it

But we also understand the new because we were right there when things started to change in the late ninety s and early 2000s with the Internet and technology and all that stuff And even ideas and concepts – changed with our generation So – – it is not easy work

It is dirty work but we all asked for it – If you’re in this generation you came down you signed up for this we Signed the contract and here we are So – might as well do the best job we can Absolutely How do you define God God is love

God is love – And that light that’s where we all came from – – It’s truly source it’s where we all came from And it’s where we’ll circle back to and then maybe even make a few more circles again But yeah God is love and caring and safety – Safety

I don’t know that a lot of us were raised to believe that though But I do believe there’s a lot of safety there We were raised with a lot of judgment That we were going to be judged at least in the Christian – faith

But in other faiths as well – There is a lot of judgment And And finally what is the ultimate purpose of life To return – to true – – you and to experience – – the joy and the fullness of that and to By doing that – model – for other people

How to do it so they can see and they see the results And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you’re doing My website is safehandshealing com – Got a lot of different resources there I try to have something to fit all the different personalities

And – there’s a lot there to look through And do you have any parting messages for the audience I guess I would like to tell – everyone the same thing I would have told Little Jane Everything’s going to be okay and – don’t let the judgment – seep in – – and

Keep doing the work Keep plugging along and take breaks Take breaks – The healing journey it can be – really intense and you need to take a break to integrate that healing work that you just did – and to have some fun and to have some lightness and – to enjoy life again

So I think that’s important for people to hear And – also this has been coming up a lot lately I’d like people to know that as you evolve and you go on this spiritual journey your habits – change and your way of healing changes – And when you first start out

We’re like these kids in a candy shop and we want to read this and gather that info and try this and – you’re gathering all the tools and you’re doing the research and you’re learning – and you’re seeing what resonates with you and what doesn’t

What works for you and what doesn’t – And then there does come a point where you don’t have to keep doing that – And I don’t know that we hear that – a lot from healers or really from anyone – – There is a time where you can

Relax in all of that and you don’t have to keep filling your brain with all of these things There is a time where you just – pick up your toolbox of everything you’ve collected – and then you move on to what’s next

And I think if we stay in research – mode – for a long time we don’t get to experience the beauty of flow And then sometimes you go back to research – Just It’s a cycle But I want people to know they can take those breaks especially if you feel like

You’re spinning your wheels That’s an indicator It’s time to take a little bit of a breather Jane thank you so much for this conversation and I hope it helps somebody – or many people around the world My dear I appreciate you Thank you Alex

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20 Comments

  1. Mourir et sortir de son corps sont 2 choses différentes…. Elles convergent pour le corps ( et encore, c’est une supposition ) mais pas pour le moment de la mort ou le moment d’une sortie de corps !!!!

  2. Dommage que ce soit un Robot qui parle pour traduire ces témoignages, cela donne un ressenti bizarre, voix métallique sans émotion, faut se concentrer pour comprendre le récit, de cette dame…

  3. La plupart des gens qui quittent leurs corps comme morts parlent de ce trou noir , de cette lumière au retour dans corps . C'est les mêmes sensations que les rescapés se rappellent de leurs expériences de morts et de leurs court voyage

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