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During an exempt session relating to item 10, councillors Watson and Byrne left the meeting at 8:04pm. This was before the Chair put forward a motion to defer item 10 to a later date.
Good evening everybody and will consider Planning Committee Committee on the 8th February, I would just advise everybody that the this meeting is being live-streamed. on Councillor George Pollyanna will be cheerfully saving I’d like to remind everyone present that this meeting is being live-streamed and recorded for Council’s website
I’d like to remind everyone present that this meeting is being live-streamed or recorded for publication on the Council’s website. or to 9 London Gateway logistics par consideration of Habitats Regulation Assessment for local development order 1 point 5 has been moved and will be heard before item the agenda just this
Habitat Regulation Assessment for local development order 1.5 has been moved and will be heard before item on the agenda, just as reference. so so. you can’t hear me stay upright so I’ll try and speak the mic thank you can’t hear me stiff upright, so I’ll try and speak into the mic, thank you.
So moving to the agenda we’ve got a apologies for so so moving to the agenda we’ve got a apologies for absence, so I I am cheering on behalf of Councillor Kelly I am cheering on behalf of Councillor Kelly. and and Councillor Russell is Sabine for Councillor Kelly
Councillor Russell is Sabine for Councillor Kelly. we have no other we have no other apologies, feminists. we welcome Councillor Bone to repelling we welcome Councillor Bowen to repelling committee, Councillor Shinnecock, we’ve got a lot of different officers here tonight and I do not familiar with and clearly saltPinch Joseph so before we
We’ve got a lot of different officers here tonight and I’m not familiar with and clearly saltPinch Joseph, so before we start is a good idea. as you request that we can introduce the officers as you request that we can introduce the officers. so so. Councillor shines request if you could just a self-closing
Councillor shines request, if you could just to introduce herself Close. good evening everyone my good evening, everyone, my name, is Emma Barnett. and I’m a planning consultant from Adams Hendry working for the Council on the London Gateway local and I’m a planning consultant from Adams Hendry, working
For the Council on the London Gateway, Local Development order, good evening I’m Rachel morale amongst our working for Adams Hendry alongside Emma on the local development order and I’ll be presenting the two cases for you today good evening, I’m Rachel morale amongst our working for Adams, Hendry alongside Emma on the local development
Order, and I’ll be presenting the two cases for you today. good evening on Trevor Faulkner I arrived that Farc about four weeks ago so I’m Interim Head of Planning delivery section in charge of Development Management good evening on Trevor Faulkner, I arrived at Farc about
Four weeks ago, so I’m Interim Head of Planning delivery section in charge of Development Management Team. Chris purpose major applications manager in Chris purpose, major applications manager in planning. Julian House Principal engineer Highways to an Julian House, Principal engineer Highways to them control. good evening Danielle Hazell as a legal requirement
Good evening, Danielle Hazell cower, I’m a barrister acting as legal representative today. and I believe we now at Committee Kaka so the first two late theses as they have identified are not actually planning then part of the planning tasteful Council but they lighthouses as they have identified are not actually
Plenty, they’re not part of the planning tasteful Thurrock council, but they are. have done an awful lot of background work and delivery on the LGA 1 point 5 have done an awful lot of background, work and delivery on the LGA 1.5 so there here.
To answer the questions that Members may have is that is everybody contempt with that now to answer the questions that Members may have is that is everybody contempt with that now OK thank you so OK, thank you so. or just. we have a full committee so I know there’s no other
Apologies so thank you for that we have a full Committee, so I know there’s no offer apologies, so thank you for that. ITEM 2 on the agenda is the the minutes does anybody have any comments on the minutes from the previous item 2 on the agenda is the the minutes, does anybody have
That we agreed the minutes is that seconded thank you any comments on the minutes from the previous? Councillor Watson agreed, thank you. item for the urgent item for the urgent business. as chair of the safety now had been advised that we have light
As chair of the safety now had been advised that we did have light request to speak request to speak on. on the last agenda On the last agenda item. which is application 2 3 0 0 4 4 2 car parks Crownbridge we we already had one statement in objection the come from the
Which is application 2 3 0 0 4 4 2 car parks Crownbridge we we already had one statement in objection, the request has come from the agent for the site so in the interests have been fail or have allowed the agent to speak but will take that as we
Come to that item thank agent for the site, so in the interests have been fail or have allowed the agent to speak, but will take that as we come to that item. Thank you, so moving to item 4 on the agenda there is declaration of
Interest to any Members have any pecuniary interests that they need to declare on any items on the Councillor burn I haven’t got any declared interests but I am a resident of Hampstead’s are working on the hamsters and I am a Councillor farmsteads and this is anything to do with long
A gateway DP World I live thereby not compromised in any way I’ll just say might Cutler right that I actually a longer Gateway DP World. I live thereby not compromised in any way. I’ll just say, might Cutler right that I actually a resident in case anybody has any
In case anybody has any queries on that. thank you. Councillor Arnold Councillor Arnold. well it just following it up what as well as I’m are actually a resident essays one well it just following it up what as well as I’m are actually a resident essays 1 7 as well. members any other members.
I suppose to join the hold-up it I suppose to join the hold-up I mentioned that I am a member of. president 17 President Xi said as well, thank you for Members thank you Members but issue where they’re not pecuniary interests and do not excluded from
This may team or from any debate over in only the application they’re not pecuniary interests and do not exclude you from this may team or from any debate over in only the actual application. and that is why we we’d leaping Farouq we do come courtesy
Situations where we are sort of living we are applications that come up in ironwood so it’s better to not so courtesy situations where we are sort of living, we are applications that come up in ironwood, so it’s better to declare it or not, so thank you for that.
Does anyone so agenda item number 5 is declarations of receipts does anyone have any declarations in respect of receipts of correspondence or any meetings discussions have relevant to determination of any planning application on or enforcement action to be resolved and this mating are or
Will start I will just say that there was a members re meet briefing on the LGA 1 point 5 because it’s such a special piece of legislation and not normal to this committee we we took the collaborative view that it would be appropriate to
Have a in-depth briefing before this meeting so that we we have a better understanding of it so that’s the only declaration that I to have a in-depth briefing before this meeting so that we we have a better understanding of it. So that’s the only declaration that I have that we’ve had
We’ve had to special briefing on that on any other we’ve had to special briefing on that on any other members. and I will take the opportunity to say thank you to the officers and to the agents and to the Members that attempted that because I don’t feel that it was a very
Informative meeting so officers and to the agents and to the members that attended that, because I don’t feel that it was a very informative meeting, so thank you for that. member have any comments or questions regarding our so moving on to agenda item planning appeals.
It has now come at Sunday appeals that that thank it has now come at Sunday appeals that that report is of no, thank you. so if it is Joanne just I’ve there’s something unknown so if it is Joanne just I’ve got briefing note here, and there’s something unknown Court. show of show of
7 on the agenda 7 on the agenda. analysis. we’ve already covered the we’ve already covered the be Guardian public address to the Planning Committee we only have speakers on the car park application so therefore we we will address that as we get to that application we will now move on to
Only have speakers on the car park application, so therefore we we will address that as we get to that application, we will now move on to. we’re going to agenda item numbered Norway as were taken a we’re going to agenda item numbered Norway as we’re taking it out of sequence. thank you.
OK so this application relates to the consideration of Habitats Regulation Assessment in relation to development order 1 OK, so this application relates to the consideration of Habitat Regulation Assessment in relation to the local development order 1.5 so a report was presented to the Planning Committee back on the 21st of September in
So a report was presented to the Planning Committee back on the 21 of September last year, and this was to delegate authority to the local planning authority to progress with the preparation of the London Gateway logistics park local development order 1 point 5
Luke could be moved to the plan please thank you so this plan shows the location of the local development order it’s a 220 hectare site is on the north bank of the Thames Estuary 4 kilometers to the west is Stanford-le-Hope and 3 kilometers to the north-west is Corringham so the purpose
Of a local development order is to provide permitted development rights for specified types of development in defined locations to help accelerate delivery the Council as you are probably aware made the local development order in November 2 thousand and 13 this was the original local
Development order for Thames Gateway it permitted up to 829 thousand 700 square metres of commercial floor space for the site of which almost 340 thousand order for Thames Gateway, it permitted up to 829,700 square metres of commercial floor space for the site of which almost 340,000 square metres,
Is either complete or operational or is under construction the original order which we now called LGA 1 expired in November 20 23 and therefore we need another consent on the site to enable the delivery of the remainder of the logistics park so the purpose of LGA 1 point 5 which is the
Case you are going to be hearing today it’s intended as an logistics park. So the purpose of LGA 1.5, which is the case you are going to be hearing today, it’s intended as an interim measure, essentially an extension to the LGA won the purpose being
It’s would be valid for a year or until and essentially an extension to the LGA one. The purpose being it’s would be valid for a year or until all geo to is adopted whichever is earlier and it was unable to deliberate up to 85 thousand square metres of floorspace
LGA 2 will be the new replacement local development order correlations. which would come before Members for delivery up to 85,000 square metres of floorspace. LGA 2 will be the new replacement local development order, which regulations require it to be determined if the proposal would come before members for consideration in the future
Would have significant effects on the integrity of a before making a decision European site or a European offshore Marine Site either alone or in combination without the project plans or projects next slide police so we’ve got here a plan which just shows the site in relation to those designated sites
So we’ve got the tens Austrian Marsh’s ESPN the Thames Austrian Marsh’s Ramsar site the Benfleet and South ends Marsh’s ESPN and also the Benfleet and southernmost Marsh’s Ramsar sites so these are the protected sites that need to Ramsar site, the Benfleet and south ends Marsh’s ESPN, and
Also the Benfleet and southernmost Marsh’s Ramsar sites. So these are the protected sites that need to be considered as part of this work a Habitat Regulations Assessment was prepared and there’s been scrutinised by natural England natural England agree that providing the works in relation
To all 2 0 1 point 5 undertaken in strict accordance with the submitted details they’re not likely to have a significant effect on these protected sites next slide police so just in summary LGA one permitted up to 8 thousand and to 829 thousand 700 square metres of
Commercial floorspace of which 340 thousand square metres up to almost sorry is either complete or operational and LGA 1 point 5 as an interim measure until audio to is square metres up to almost sorry is either complete or operational and LDF 1.5 is an interim measure valid for a
Year or until audio to is adopted. just to set out here regulation 80 of the constipation and habitats and species regulation must be applied to the making of a local development order this requires that the council as competent authority decided for a plan or
Project is likely to have a significant effect on a European site or a European offshore Marine Site either alone or in combination with other plans or projects light pollution European site or a European offshore Marine site either alone or in combination with other plans or projects next likely things.
So the Habitat Regulations testament this concluded that with avoidance and mitigation measures the development proposed would have a negligible impact on the protected sites and natural England have agreed with this and as such the recommendation that’s put before you is that the
Development proposed by LGA 1 point 5 is not likely to have a significant effect on a European site or a European offshore Marine Site either alone or in combination with other projects and if Members agree with this recommendation we can then move forward with the second
Case on the agenda which is the then determined whether you wish to make the LDF 1 point 5 recommendation we can then move forward with the second case on the agenda, which is the then determined whether you wish to make the LDF 1.5 order.
Thank you very much for the or openness are perfectly agenda of the questions that Members have any questions great true thank you very much for the or openness are perfectly agenda of the questions that Members have any questions, great true. Councillor Councillor red sauce thank you I’m just asking really it may not
Thank you very much and I am just asking really it may not. I said at the other night no question to I said it the other night, no question is stupid, we we need to you know. think of everything is every need dredging going on at all
On the start that goes round because there was dredging down a few years ago and that trouble is think of everything is every need dredging going on at all on the start that goes round, because there was dredging done a few years ago and that trouble is when you dredge.
It goes away but then it finds its way back again so I wonder if there’s any dredging going on in that area because you have to dredge to you know to make the water do what is supposed to do yet had that’s totally fair enough yet not in relation to the local
Because you have to dredge to you know to make the water do what is supposed to do yet had that’s totally fair enough yet not in relation to the local London Gateway logistics park logistics park, Councillor Watson, thank you thank you very much for your presentation and
Thanked for yesterday by the way it was it was useful and thank you for legal fractured being here Welt on so moppet is about how do we monitor to ensure that this is maintained within the LGA 1 1 point 5 and that legally how
Can we enforce it if we think that it isn’t being maintained mark, it is about how do we monitor to ensure that this is maintained within the LGA 1 1.5 and that legally how can we enforce it if we think that it isn’t being maintained?
So I think probably in terms of so this relates to the compliance documents which were part of our discussion in terms of whether to make LGA 1 so I think, probably in terms of so this relates to the compliance documents which were part of our discussion in
Terms of whether to make LGA 1.5. but those monitoring information that’s presented which ensures that all they requirements in terms of those with the process if we don’t think they are doing exactly compliant oxygen documents are adhered to and obviously it’s open to the Council or other bodies to be able to
What we wanted to do in the monitoring. I mean I would suggest it’s probably the same with any sort inspect that if it’s required of planning breach of planning control is that there is the opportunity to be able to take enforcement action and the appropriate routes through the legislation to
Is the opportunity to be able to take enforcement action and the appropriate routes through the legislation to be able to do that. we haven’t got enforcements right now so because of that to serious question how are we going to ensure that this is being maintained because this is for me this is really
Important this is just giving somebody I’m believe you may I want DP World to you know I’m quite happy but I just need to have that confidence that it is going to be staying within the 1 point 5 because we are giving them carte blanche to do what they want on a planning
Staying within the 1.5 because we are giving them carte blanche to do what they want on a planning without even come back here. I mean as well as with any planning application I mean it’s essentially through the order there’s there’s conditions and requirements that they’d have to adhere to and there’s
A legal agreement that I’d have to adhere to and all these documents are tied in with the planning and there’s a legal agreement that I’d have to adhere to, and all these documents are tied in with the planning decision. I mean in terms of I think partly looking to date as well
DP World to date have always provided they’re monitoring information as required and going forward obviously they will continue to be those requirements upon them to need to do that and you’ve got the conditions there in the ability to be able to take action if there was obviously an issue
Raised that they weren’t complying with do that and you’ve got the conditions there in the ability to be able to take action if there was obviously an issue raised that they weren’t complying with. thank you cannot just come here as we said at the
Thank you cannot just come here, as we said, at the instructions. right through a NAQO Catholic are consultants so I I think if we can bring lay going to give you some more reassurance and that possibly Tracey as regards council officers thank you I’m I’m not worried about who gives me that reassurance
I just sneak that reassurance and that’s why I would like I’m just suggesting it ritual wasn’t perhaps the right person for that question to be directly debt so just to to be sure that you get the a more fuller I would like I’m just suggesting it brighter wasn’t perhaps
The right person for that question to be directly debt, so just to to be sure that you get the a more fuller answer, I mean what I mainly going to say is just to support which has already been said so and LDF essentially operate in a
Similar manner to if you think permitted development rights generally and still a breach of planning control for permitted development rights or a local development order is enforced in the same way which is as a breach of planning control now if there were a breach of planning
Control in relation to the habitats management of habitats or anything else under the skiing you could bring enforcement proceedings now I know what you said about the amounts of enforcement was currently the Council else under the skiing, you could bring enforcement proceedings now I know what you said about the amounts of
Enforcement was currently being undertaken by the Council. if something were to happen which was a breach and it wasn’t immediately enforced against you could still bring enforcement action down the line you’ll be aware of the limitations that apply to enforcement it’s not we would
Have to immediately jump on it and in addition when requiring someone to comply with planning control you can require them to put things as best as we were able back in the position where it was prior so it may well be that even if you had about issue concerning why would you enforce
Against them today were worse to happen you could still have confidence that steps because you don’t take steps immediately you can still as best as you are able to achieve compliance I would add as well we comply would take steps immediately, you can still as best as you are
Able to achieve compliance, I would add, as well. The the requirements comply would survive LGA 1 point 5 expiring in any event I would expect Aldea it would be captured by audio to LGA 1.5 expiring in any event, I would expect LDF it would be captured by audio to, but.
Very virile limits on carte blanche but they have and you will be able to enforce against those very virile limits on carte blanche, but they have and you will be able to enforce against those. hopefully that gives you a bit more confidence point
Hopefully that gives you a bit more confidence on on that point, thank you Councillor Rachel. thank you Chair just to pick up Councillor Watson said we’re all sitting here now exactly what conditions on planning means it doesn’t always mean is thank you, Chair, just to pick up on Councillor Watson,
Said we’re all sitting here now, exactly what conditions on planning means, it doesn’t always mean is followed up. so I think that’s where we’re worried but that that satisfies me a little bit but we’ve got to really pick on a permitted development it’s fine but when you put conditions
Just going to bring in a trice Coleman now, Plouffe, thank in something not everybody follows up those conditions so I you Chair. think we’ve got the in this thing we’ve got I just wanted to reassure you about the monitoring that’s done so effectively the DP World have their own ecologists
And they report they will report to to the council and those reports if necessary will go to natural England so they that the work that has been done over the last 10 years as being exemplary in relation to the mitigation that’s needed to be done in fact it’s so good that there’s
Has been exemplary in relation to the mitigation that’s needed to be done. In fact it’s so good that you know there’s habitats sort of no forming in areas so as I said they’ve got their own ecologists and they do take it very seriously doing
Everything that’s laid back has to be reported back in the mitigation because these are environmental issues which way far above the planning legislation so they do have to be sort of mitigation, because these are environmental issues which way far above the planning legislation so they do have to be dealt with.
Just follow up so thank you just follow up, so thank you, but. that’s very very reassuring because I think that we need to Montana habitat as much as I know that’s very, very reassuring, because I think that we need to maintain habitat as much as we possibly can.
And having a great big DP World sitting there with this audio 1 point 5 and I’m thank you for making me feel reassured about legal side a bit I’ve got questions want to that will audio 1.5 and I’m I’m thank you for making me feel
Reassured about legal side of it, I’ve got questions on LGA want to that will be later. that lie I think it will be OK but I just wanted to know that I don’t want any slip-ups so in order to that another temporary another want to carry on forward that’s fantastic
But I still want the monitoring to be put in place quite vigorously to make sure that agreeing Bill is sort of like protected with the habitat as well fantastic, but I still want the monitoring to be put in place quite vigorously to make sure that agreeing Bill is
Sort of like protected with the Habitat as well thank you. I think Councillor Elijah hint of poetry so I’ll just consider ought to know that I have their own planning officers that used to work for Thurrock Council working DP World and they are very very careful to ensure that their
Standards are the same as airs Lucia officers that used to work for Thurrock Council working DP World, and they are very, very careful to ensure that their standards are the same as ours, thank you Chair, Councillor Councillor, many out your hand up. yeah thanks Chair I just wanted to reach out rich right
What Councillor Watson said I mean and how this is an area of massive economic development but that is really important really important we need to really monitor that and that until Councillor Watson of massive economic development, but that is really important, really important, we need to really monitor that
And that until Councillor Watson mentioned it that was something I was seeking reassurance on so yeah locked her I am reassured but we have got to be really that was something I was seeking reassurance on so yeah locked her, I am reassured, but we have got to be really really monitoring it.
Thank you Councillor boneyard yr Hendre yes so deeply a world they attend every for a meeting we have in Stanford Coriam and homestays and they tell you everything they are very open to the bad things like the power line which had no as everybody they come and tell you and explain to have
Anything the good and the bad day chowder open they don’t know at anything so they are very open and honest with a registered so I think we have got trust if there’s anything or they would actually tell hide anything so they are very open and honest with a
Registered, so I think we have got trust them if there’s anything they would actually tell you. thank you. it is we said the audio one is at the end of its life it is we set the audio one is at the end of its life last year.
Had we had any reports or any had we had any reports or any? any issues with any of the because it’s a rhymes I saw is an ace it is national heritage its international importance I’m not aware that we’ve Act taken any action in the last
10 years would all be correct on that is an ace, it is national heritage, its international importance, I’m not aware that we’ve had taken any action in the last 10 years would all be correct on that. the answers come back on correct so I think that would give
Us comfort that De the Ohio 1 point 5 that we’ll get to it has got limited life to it as well but there that this give us comfort that De the Ohio 1.5 that we’ll get to it, has got limited life to it as well, but that doesn’t mean 2 1.5 but.
That this this. this is why we’ve had to move this agenda I in are there any more questions regarding the Sowetan are there any more questions regarding the Sowetan? Mr. Tyler do you have anything to them Mr. Tyler, do you have anything to say that you want to ask on the autumn?
If not I’ll moved to Dubai thanks Councillor Polly only the obviously also sits in the middle of the green belt which is more concerned but given that the site has already there it’s kind of already accepted 10 world 10 more than 10
Years ago that it was it was going to happen anyway so it’s never going to be on the top of my list of things I love but at the same time I don’t have I understand where it is and therefore Murray so there’s nothing I
But at the same time I don’t know if I understand where it is and therefore Murray so there’s nothing I need to better, I don’t think, thank you, and Members contempt with Christians can I’ll make to debate on this item is there anything and Members contempt with Christians cannot make to debate
On this item, is there any to buy? in that case I will move the in that case, I will move the recommendations. recommendation note the content of the report to recommendation note the content of the report to inform. I Habitats Regulations Assessment London Gateway logistics
Park local development order 1 point 5 dated November 20 23 and the consultation responses received 1 point to formally determined on the basis of the information available that the development proposed by De all Geo will not adversely affect the integrity of a European or a European offshore
Marine saw it either alone or in combination with other plans or will not adversely affect the integrity of a European or a European offshore marine saw it either alone or in combination with other plans or projects. is that seconded Councillor Lewzey out we agreed unanimous
Is that seconded Councillor Lewzey out we agreed unanimous? thank you. we now move to agenda item 8 and again will go to write you are never for a presentation on the history we now move to agenda item 8 and again will go to write to
An Arab for a presentation on the history IQ. OK so this item relates to whether to make the local development order 1 point 5 say following the expiry of LGA one in November last year as we discussed another consent is required to enable to delivery of the remainder of the
Logistics park so LGA 1 point 5 its intended as an interim measure which is essentially as an extension to required to enable to delivery of the remainder of the logistics park so LGA 1.5 it’s intended as an interim measure which is essentially as an extension to the LGA one.
Which expired last year and valid for one year or until audio to is adopted which has or ever is earlier and this is to enable to delivery up to a further 85 thousand square metres of floorspace pending consideration of audio to next
Item in the ethics so here we’ve got the plan which shows the LGA sites so the boundary for LGA 1 point 5 is similar to that that was there for LGA won but it does exclude the Land known as the Tongland which is in the south-western
Corner of the logistics park as the infrastructure works have been completed and no further developments proposed in this area additional land which is approximately 7 hectares is now included around the former Gateway energy centre which you can see is that sort of holding right hand side
Is now included around the former Gateway energy centre which you can see is that sort of hole in the Holter, the right-hand side of the site, and this is reflecting the reduced land requirement for battery energy storage and this is reflecting the reduced land requirement for the battery energy storage system,
Next please things so we’ve just set out here just a little bit of the planning history relating to the logistics park just in terms of some of the floorspace to put it in context so back in May 2 thousand and 7 there was an outline planning consent which was granted by the secretary
Of State this was for 936 thousand 601 square metres of floor space then as we discussed in November 2 thousand and 13 the decision was made to for the LGA one local development order which permitted 829 thousand 700 square metres of floorspace as part of that the mitigation secured
Through compliance documents and Section 1 0 6 agreement for the full amount of the development much of which has already been completed by November where meets the floorspace has been completed or is under construction or consented, though less than half of that which the LGA originally intended to originally intended to deliver
Then February 2 thousand 24 which his current to date LGA 1 point 5 now proposed for a further 85 thousand square metres of floorspace so this would take in addition to those works that have already been carried out or are consented the total amount up to 422 thousand 225 square
Metres it will include the mitigation not delivered under LGA one which would be secured as part of a Section 1 0 6 through this LGA 1 point 5 and the compliance documents which will continue to secure plots based mitigation and we’re talking with this a bit more about that in a moment
And then in summer this year hopefully we will have the LGA proposed proposal coming before you which will be for a maximum of 733 thousand 766 square metres of floor space on the site which is obviously less than LGA one originally looked to consent and far less than the original outline
Planning permission was for as well slightly OK so this plan is quite useful it than LGA one originally looked to consent and far less than the original outline planning permission was for as well slightly OK, so this plan is quite useful. It just sets out
On the master plan the development status of the plots that are being developed those which have consent and indicatively shows those areas where plots could come forward so in red we’ve got those developments that are complete blue lights Blue is the prior prior notification
Where it has been confirmed and then the grey areas are where development is expected to come in the plots in the future and a lot of that would be as part of where it has been confirmed, and then the grey areas are where development is expected to come in the plots in the
Future, and a lot of that would be as part of LTRO to next penalties thank you so the developments be permitted by 0 1 point 5 will be subject to conditions and limitations which former schedule schedules to the order so there are for compliance documents which detailed controls so these
Limitations which former schedule schedules to the order, so there are for compliance documents which give additional details controls, so these comprise a design code. this sets out the standards for plots infrastructure and amenity space the Code of construction practice this sets out a framework for the site preparation and construction
Works the ecological mitigation and management plan which shows the mitigation management and monitoring protocols for the site and a travel Plan which includes measures to encourage sustainable transport there’s also the Section 1 0 6 agreement which the heads of terms are on page for hundred and 23 of the report
Encourage sustainable transport. There is also the section 1 0 6 agreement which the Heads of terms are on page 400 and 23 of the report’s pack sorry next light yet so in terms of the consultation that’s being carried out as part of this sorry one of the other
Things to do with the documents sorry that immense mentioned was all the documents are essentially based on the documents from LGA won but they have been updated and these are to reflect changes in legislation and also to take account of works that being completed on the site but
Essentially they’re very similar to those documents that were part of LGA one so in terms of the consultation we’ve undertaken quite extensive consultation we’ve received no objections from statutory consultees in terms of nearby owner occupiers we sent 484 consultation letters to objections were received from residents with the main
Concerns relating to noise and safety associated with traffic emetic and in particular heavy goods vehicles so just in response to that I mean the forecast daily trip generation is materially less than that was assessed for LGA 1 and the works including for noise have been carried
Out in anticipation of the full LGA one coming forward LGA one, and the works, including for noise, have been carried out in anticipation of the full LGA one coming forward. an assessment of the transportation impacts suggests that the highway network is capable of accommodating the
Additional traffic from the LGA 1 point 5 development without resulting in significant impacts on the environment we’ve also included a restriction on the amount of floor space that can be occupied as a high intensity parcel surface service so this is sort of uses like UKPN which
Generate higher traffic movements and another be 8 uses so by reducing that obviously we’re going to reduce some of the impacts that this additional floorspace could could higher traffic movements and another be 8 uses so by reducing that obviously we’re going to reduce some of the
Impacts that this additional floorspace could could have. there is also the additional requirement for occupier travel plans to be submitted for approval by the late London Gateway travel Plan committee and this is something that’s been requested by National Highways as the needs are acceptable, so.
Travel plans to be submitted for approval by the London Gateway travel Plan Committee, and this is something that’s the only other issue to raise as well as following been requested by National Highways as well. publication of the Committee report we have also received a voice as you would have seen in the
Assessment of consultation response from Network Rail no publication of the Committee report, we have also received a consultation response from Network Rail, and they’ve raised no objections to the proposal. so just in summary London Gateway is located on the site of the former Shell Haven oil refinery the redevelopment of
Which is a longstanding policy aspiration and it remains central planning strategies for Thurrock LGA one has been successful in simplifying the planning consenting regime for the development at the logistics park and it’s offered clear commercial benefits to the operator DP World London Gateway and potential occupiers who have been able to
Proceed with development on-site in a relatively short space of time LGA 1 point 5 is intended as an interim measure valid for one year or until LGA 2 which is the replacement order is adopted whichever is earlier and this is to enable the delivery of a further 85 thousand square
Metres of floorspace pending consideration of all Geo to LGA 5 will continue to help accelerate the delivery of appropriate development on the remainder of the logistics park promoting economic social and environmental appropriate development on the remainder of the logistics park, promoting economic, social and environmental gains for the area thank you
Thank you very much or opens up for questions members Councillor on thank you Chairman thank you for your thank you very much or opens up for questions, members, Councillor on, thank you, Chairman, thank you for your presentation. it really is just iconic curious obviously is this the LGA
1 point 5 and obviously moving forward to the audio it really is just iconic curious, obviously, is this the al D 0 1.5 and obviously, moving forward to the audio to. it’s just an obvious questions may read him and how do we monitor development
It’s just an obvious questions may rule him and how do we monitor development? let’s just shortly and to say you know maybe developers or or London Gateway actually pushing the envelope on square metre reach for buildings and things do we actually check
This area Lee of boots on the ground I’m going to have square metre each for buildings and things do we actually check this area lie of boots on the ground, I’m going to have how do we do that we’re in terms of when when and occupies fans when the
Sites they have to submit a prior notification form so as part of that process they have to submit all documents as to sites they have to submit a prior notification form, so as part of that process they have to submit all the plans and documents as to what they’re going to be.
Proposing on-site and that is then assessed by officers here at other Thurrock against the local development order and the compliance documents as well so it ensures what’s being proposed then actually follows what the order requires and then I think it’s probably very similar to the
Previous question in terms of compliance it comes back to those conditions there’s the requirements on the operators we’ve got the monitoring information and as the ability ability to take enforcement action if it’s found there’s ever a breach of planning control but one of the things
We’ve found is GP London Gateway of very they monitor it themselves and if they found that there have been any breaches they’ve actually alerted the occupiers to those and there’d been retrospective applications put into resolve those issues if there has been a breach of planning
Control any way so I think that’s obviously the operator but there is also being monitored by DP London Gateway and then you’ve also got Thurrock again reviewing it and checking their decisions and information before them as Gateway, and then you’ve also got Thurrock. Again reviewing
It and checking their decisions and information before them as well. OK thank you I mean I’ve just got one other point really I mean it’s just this more really just to comment really OK, thank you, I mean, I’ve just got one other point,
Really I mean it’s just this more really just to comment really. I mean as we move closer to all the I mean, as we move closer to all the O2, vehicle movement in the erroneous is likely to become a major issue increasingly it is now so I mean I I just want
To put on record really that as we move nearly LDL to we will everybody will be consulted on and their their input to you know how that is gonna impact the knows the Exxon D delta, we will everybody will be consulted and their their
Input to you know how that is gonna impact that he knows the Exxon D area thank you. so it can I just think to check the east Odeo 1 point 5 that we’ve got in front of us we cannot be discussing something in the future O’Dowd then my baby lay each week
We East is the report in front of us, we cannot be discussing something in the future, although date, then my baby lay each week we eat, it is the report and all die. 0 1 point 5 that we are discussing tonight so if we can
Just focus on that place I’ve got a number of that wish to 0 1.5 that we are discussing tonight, so if we can just focus on that place, I’ve got a number of cancers that wish the 1 0 6 money that’s 1 0 6 that’s in place at the moment to speak, so
I have cancer Breadsall then Watson Nimbin thank you when that changes how with an otter what’s in place and the other one is Councillor Reynolds said about Stanford bypass Stanford bypass is gonna be the main. where lorries that are going to come to so it is going to
Make a difference on that big roundabout to know where lorries are going to come to, so it is going to make a difference on that big roundabout I just really want to know. ha ha how they ha ha how they expect to monitor that.
Because there is going to be an awful lot week as we said the other night we can’t guarantee that we can add push lorries down there because there is going to be an awful lot week, as we said the other night, we can’t guarantee that we can now, but to
Push lorries down there. as long as they have got a place to go there is an option that enforcement officers have if they’ve got a place to offer them they can go to but we can’t force them to spend that money or or go there so I just really want to know in
One place how they’re going to monitor that they’re going to monitor the traffic that will come with that older one place how they are going to monitor that you know how they’re going to monitor the traffic that will come with that order.
Yeah if if I can answer on your first point in terms of the Section 1 0 6 so there will be a new section 1 0 6 which can be attached to LDF 1 point 5 and that will basically repeat what did in LGA won just but but taking out things
Obviously are being completed in which to acknowledge that they’ve been done but anything that’s left that is outstanding and still to be completed will will remain in LDF 1 point 5 there’s nothing that’s being removed it is all exactly the same so could be
LDF 1.5 there’s nothing that’s being removed. It is all exactly the same, so I think you should. Hopefully it could be reassured by that. in terms of monitoring all I can say is that when LDL one was assessed it was more than double the floorspace it’s on
The site at the moment and the mitigation that was put in place was to deal with the full quantum of development so what we’re proposing at this stage even with LGA 1 point 5 in place it was still only take us probably to half of what
Was previously assessed as being acceptable so I think the issue comes more as as we get further on into the development in terms of the completion of the remainder of the park in terms of mitigation that might be required to facilitate that but at this stage with LDF 1 point 5 we are
Well within the realms of what was being assessed and what was considered to be acceptable and that is by all the statutory consultees as well have found it to be acceptable within the realms of what was being assessed and what was considered to be acceptable, and that is by all the
Statutory consultees as well have found it to be acceptable. they can share do you want me to they can share, do you want me to wait? OK yeah just to thank you for that 3 good OK, yeah, just to thank you for that 3 good. just a state.
Everybody’s got no objection no recommendations nothing no objection nothing to anything no comment or anything that everybody’s got no objection, no recommendations, nothing no objection, nothing to anything, no comment or anything, it would be it’s just like to say that I would like that water
Authority to have have been here just to ask questions they’re never at Planning they never come to anything so there’s no and I didn’t actually in never at Planning, they never come to anything, so there’s no, and I didn’t actually there’s not much mentioned in here about flooding.
Because whatever we do on that site is going to water the way the water is going to get out because that hate to be because I’m a bit thing about the water and the river and everything else has spent my life on that river but I think
That as anything we put in the way of water look for everything else has spent my life on that river, but I think that anything we put in the way of water is going to look for other ways out. it’s quite a force so whatever we put in place to mitigate
That it would be better and I would just like to have seen something a bit more in there to give me that assurance that we are doing what we can say have been good to something a bit more in there to give me that assurance
That we are doing what we can say, water authority would have been good to sustain them because we need to know whatever we’re putting in place because wherever many buildings we stick up going to make a because we need to know whatever we’re putting in place,
Because wherever many buildings we stick up in, there is going to make a difference to the water. and whatever water gets out there some of that may come back so I would just like to have seen a but thanks for and whatever water gets out there, some of that may come
Back, so I would just like to have seen a bit more in their, but thanks for that. thank you Councillor Reid so Councillor Watson then Councillor Bone thank you Chair I don’t really know where to directly so I’m I’m gonna look to illegal colleague what
Is the legislation changes that’s been between 1 am 1 0 5 and what impact does that have on 1 point 5 to direct this, so I’m I’m gonna look to illegal colleague, what is the legislation changes that’s being between 1 and 1 0 5 and what impact does that have on 1.5?
General changes them in law that have happened appliance was planning servers sorry my mind’s gone blank would be legislation is introduced in relation to infrastructure in 2 thousand and 15 which made amendments directly to the TCPA 19 90 but the actual legislation used here to affect
The audio hasn’t really changed I actually understand what directed to his changes in relevant changes in policy. changes in also things like the 2 thousand and 17 environmental rogues replaced the earlier set of environmental rogues but they’re all in the standard kind of changes but in your role as
Also, things like the 2017 environmental regs replaced the earlier set of environmental rogues, but they’re all in the standard kind of changes, but you’ve seen in your role as on this committee was nothing that’s particularly changed about making LTROs themselves at least not but I am aware
Of yeah so yeah I think there might be something you could say about policy as well but yeah that essentially reflects this is a similar process to what happened 10 of yeah so yeah, I think there might be something you could say about policy as well, yeah, that essentially reflects
This is a similar process to what happened 10 years ago. the overall does he actually just about this system LDS are quite rare and sober governments national level has not made that many changes to the structure of held views in the time that we’ve been able to make them and they were
And originally in addition to the TCPA but there haven’t been many changes in in the period between audio won an LDF 1 point 5 OK thank you weren’t originally in addition to the TCPA but there haven’t been many changes in in the period between audio won an LDF 1.5 OK, thank you.
So we felt benefit of the audience so we felt benefit of the audience. the Town and Country Planning Act 19 90 thank you and can I just clarify this a couple of things to the Section 1 0 6 that will run concurrent so whatever wherever it is it just
Carry on running through into 2 as well so that we were eventually get the full amount in the section 1 0 6 development light built out will just carry on running through into 2 as well so that we will eventually get the full amount in the section 1 0 6
As the development light built out is that correct. section 1 0 6 4 LGA 1 point 5 is pretty much will carry on the exact same obligation 6 where they have not been fulfilled the LDO won with L D 0 2 it is more than likely
There will be the same but there will be a fresh look at that and if there are different mitigations that are required to to to deal with the issues they will be reflected in all D 0 2 1 0 6 attached to audio to buy asking news
Are required to to to deal with the issues, they will be reflected in all D 0 2 1 0 6 attached to audio too by asking news and Julian I’m going to show form I from the Council’s perspective Malawi is it is are you comfortable that this is going to
Be able to take the level of Malawi is it is, are you comfortable that this is going to be able to take the level of hate sheaves that’s going through it? not just now but when this new development on the 1 point 5
Not just now, but when this new development on the 1.5 comes through and then when it and then when it’s too. thank you Chair I think was already indicated traffic levels associated with L D 1 LGA 1 were agreed at the time
I wasn’t here it so I’m but they were agreed and those within 1 point 5 sit within those so did he though there’s not one increases parts 1 point 1 point 5 if you are still within 1.5 sit within those, so did he, though there’s not
One increases parts 1.1 point 5 if you like they are still part of. one if you like it will be reassessed once we get to all D 0 2 but that will be something different but 4 4 1 point 5 we didn’t have any problems because the level of traffic
Had already been assessed under LGA 1 and the mitigation measures we didn’t have any problems because the level of traffic has already been assessed under LGA one and the appropriate mitigation measures undertaken. Councillor Councillor Byrne. yes thank you mitigation for what 106 agreements can you confirm or at it for us returning
Yes, thank you mitigation for what 106 agreements can you confirm or at it for us written in stone? the early wards affected within 1 point 5 are Corringham fobbing stiffly hope and the Arab states the early wards affected within 1.5 are Corringham fobbing, stiffly hope and the United States.
So what do you mean exactly so what do you mean exactly in terms of traffic? I’m saying is ill it’s not going to go outside them areas I’m saying it’s ill, it’s not going to go outside them areas 1 or 6 money. sorry idea is I’m talking about the 106 agreements is it
Written in stone it’s only Corringham any sorry idea, is I’m talking about the 106 agreements, is it written in stone, it’s only Corringham fob, incidentally, how any homesteads that the the the reference in the heads of terms is for for I can’t it’s not set in stone, but that is the intention of
The highways amenity were found to be agreed with the Council so the Council will be the the money is for. local planning authority to Christian Councillor Bernard if we look at page 4 annoying Councillor Bernard, if we look at page 4 annoying.
Under 3 3 point 5 8 Section 106 legal agreement in addition to the heads of terms obligation to implement them 25 junction 38 mitigation scheme update to reflect current Sophie and sentences so I would suggest that the traffic that goes to the polls affects the whole of the borough and
And that part of the Section 1 0 6 it is indicate eat if I’m correct 3 point 5 9 for improvements to junction 30 so if I understood your question if you’re saying the entirety of the Section 1 0 6 4 the lung DP World remains we’ve been
SSS 17 I think the answer to that is not only understood your question, if you’re saying the entirety of the section 1 0 6 4 The Lamb DP World remains, we’ve been SSS, 17. I think the answer to is no, but I will go go to J go to DJ Trevor. Can you
Advice on these advice on this place. African that’s the answer with regard to the paragraph 3 point 5 9 clearly bodies will go towards junction 30 I’ll say it won’t go towards the local wards as well but one of them my 3.5 9, clearly, bodies will go towards junction 30, I’ll
Say it won’t go towards the local wards as well, but that’s one of the main drivers. and can I just refresh paper this is not a and can I just refresh paper this is not unknown LDF this is an extension of an existing Ohio a lot of the did
Things that we might now have a pertinent and need to be asked but again will be more more implement 18 Ohio to because that is the new document this them sorry you just said earlier nobody least swamp saying Dear so Dee Dee who told him not to mention and now this I’m confused
Councillor Bone just said earlier nobody least of what I’m saying Dear so Dee Dee told me not to mention and now this I’m confused often Councillor Bone but on off you said dimension audio Turner you ancient nobody Otto alongside some of your questions relate to all die out to
Barbara then Odeo 1 point of you said dimension, audio Turner, you ancient nobody Otto alongside some of your questions, relate to all die out to Barbara then Odeo 1.5 it is an existing Section 1 0 6 so it is not a new 1 0 6
Councillor Bone McKay Kenneth carry out some of the paperwork since 2 thousand and 13 is wrong this wards affected this paper works rom Corringham for lunchtime fully up to and we go on for I’ve got 10 years of paperwork that says that this paperwork so everything is built into
The wrong then yes because it does what it says was affected so go on for I’ve got 10 years of paper that says that this paper works where everything is built into wrongdoing yes because it does what it says was affected, so this is, not worth the focus written on it
Not worth the paper, it’s written on it. another school boy era which we get used to wear and questions nowhere near members got any questions another schoolboy error, which we get used to wear, and questions that have any members, got any questions please. Councillor my knee Councillor, my name, thank you Chair.
Talking on 1 point 5 talking on 1.5 I know the man away it states wouldn’t miss out on an unacceptable impact but that that sound barrier I know the man away it states wouldn’t miss out on an in an unacceptable impact, but that that sound barrier is. ineffective right insane always
Ineffective insane, always out die 8. we will that be replaced on or not or is that just a nonsense question we will not be replaced on an hour, or is that just a nonsense question? thanks to you. there are no proposals to replace her Nissan barriers as
Part of LDF 1 point 5 because the mitigation that was put in place for LDF one which was for a much greater level of development this is less than half of what was originally assessed but as part of all Dio to we will that in more detail
Level of development, this is less than half of what was originally assessed but, as part of all Dio to we will be looking at that in more detail. thank you. we go to Chief Planning Officer we go to Chief Planning Officer. but just just on the top discussion regarding the barrier
We do know that during the time of construction there were quite a few residents that didn’t want the barrier so received payments in kind. was a sense for that so that is something that we’re looking at for the future but it isn’t relevant to LGA 1 point 5 that’s
Because the bigger number hasn’t been reached but I just wanted to put that in the mix it is quite a difficult scenario when you’ve got some people who want it some wanted to put that in the mix, it is quite a difficult scenario when you’ve got some people who want it, some
People who don’t want it some people have taken payments for some people have taken payments for et cetera but it is something that we we have been looking at in detail and it it will be reported back on when we come back to when we come back to you in the future
But it is something that we, we have, been looking at in detail and it it will be reported back on when we come back to when we come back to you in the future. thank you for your apologies for earlier we will keep this
Within the context of the 1 point 5 although it is very tempting obviously you can pick up that that the last question actually in your your reply it so you just run at a very interested in thought inmate you say southern residents have actually taken money
Question actually in your your reply, so you just run at a very interesting thought inmate you say southern residents have taken money in exchange. for not having a barrier what happens if that properties in changes hands and a new owner does for not having a barrier. What happens if that properties
In changes hands and the new owner does. it’s way before my time but I did ask the very same question as Yahoo and I was assured that it’s a land charge so actually when somebody buys that property again there’ll be buy-in at a lower value because there was a land charge
On their that actually there’s an understanding that the property should be cheaper because of the problems that that land charge on their that actually there’s an understanding that the property should be cheaper because of the problems that that it incurs. well that’s what you pay your solicitor as defined so that’s
Well, that’s what you pay, your solicitors defined, isn’t it, so that’s interest here? Councillor Byrne. yes or No but I’ll be an old question but though we planting thousands of trees and am little plastic things and every time I draw at Part I’ll I’ll Fink-Nottle data
Does anybody actually going to have a look as if they’d growing or we’ve we’ve been our money on why should our money for some garden supporting trees that don’t grow over that we actually monitor on what we just out and proud they’re going to grow Clary Councillor burden is that the
Council Plan it changed so that we actually monitor on what we just out and proud they’re going to grow. Clary Councillor burden is that the Council Plan it’s changed, so or is this the Project Board if they pay world as the Project Board, if they pay world as. yeah I don’t know who
Yeah, I don’t know who. Zoey Councillor Burgess a we’ve played a lot smarter who you refer every Councillor Burgess, a we’ve pedalo smiling, I don’t know who you are referring to. the Council the Council paid for you. the no bit on the efforts on all day for to in
The no bit on the IFA to in all day for to in that’s going on it’s not a relevant planning question if you want to take it up with congratulates me not Sarajevo planning familiar thing that would papers or the choice with heart planning it up with training which they need, not Sarajevo,
Planning, familiar thing that would papers or the choice with hot planet. so we come back to where Councillor Watt Councillor Watson thank so we come back to we had Councillor Watt made so and Councillor Watson, thank you. thank you Chair just to put Councillor Benois trays were
Put in by Highways and they are still growing thank you, Chair, just to put Councillor Benois trays were put in by Highways and they are still growing yeah. and I’ll just really really want to go back to the 1 0 6 money because I think that’s what Councillor bum was asking
That when the 1 0 6 changes it won’t be for ward areas so if you have summit built in your area that money won’t instantly come back to your area so this will go across Thurrock so it won’t be for just says 17 across
Won’t instantly come back to your area so this will go across Thurrock so it won’t be for just S S 17 money will go across Thurrock. Councillor Watson just a really quick question may lie when are we looking at audio to coming back into Councillor Watson, just a really quick questionnaire, when
Are we looking at audio to coming back into plan in, do you think? and are we gonna hit that target before they gives out that we will be able to adopt and are we gonna hit that target before they give out that
We will be able to adopt that and get that in place? consultation which has a statutory consultation beforehand I would certainly hopes so I mean the the current intention so I am absolutely confident that we will be in a position is to bring all Dio backed LDO to back before Members
To bring it back to you whether you decide to make it or the summer so not, that’s another question, but it will be back before you within a year. Councillor piccolo, thank you Chair I’m not sure whether this question is relevant narrow or in when it comes up for LDL to but
Thank you Chair, I’m not sure whether this question is relevant, narrower in when it comes up for LDL to, but should? the Lower Thames crossing the Lower Thames crossing go ahead the plan is that of all the traffic up the A 13 to go round
The Manor Way roundabout to go back down to get on the new access road to the poll has that extra traffic on round the Manor Way roundabout to go back down, to get on the new access road to the pole, has that extra traffic on that roundabout.
Been taken into consideration and will it be taken consideration been taken into consideration and will it be taken into consideration when it comes through to the development logged a bit in order to because that’s that that could have a big impact on that roundabout if you
Don’t want to continue to check we can go to chief planning officer for your response Councillor Pitchley don’t want to continue to check, we can go to Chief Planning officers for your response, Councillor Pitchley, thank you Chair so just to remind you that this LGA one
So just to remind you that this LGA 1.5 is based on audio 1 and the mitigation that relates wider is based on audio 1 and the mitigation that relates to the wider area. now the now the LTC isn’t consented and we don’t know if it will be consented
And so you can work on speculation I’ve worked very closely on the LTC and there are still variables that the that there are to come forward so that is something unless it’s actually consented that we won’t be able to to look at but
Certainly what will happen in the reverse is that what we have consented the LTC will have to consider that in any mitigation that they have to provide so in effect we’ve come what we have consented. The LTC will have to consider that in any mitigation that they have to provide, so in effect
We’ve come before them and the traffic that goes on the road when the LTC because even if the LTC is consented this year it doesn’t have to be delivered and as we know a lot of these schemes may not come forward for many years so what you wouldn’t want to do
Is to to make provision for that and then it not come forward for many years, so what you wouldn’t want to do is to to make provision for that and then it doesn’t come forward what we would want is then to consider it the other way
Round when we’ve you know when we’ve come along and we’ve got a consent for a what we would want is then to consider it the other way round when we’ve you know when we’ve come along and we’ve got a consent for it I thank you as I thank you as Mexico killing.
Just the Committee have any more questions does the committee have any more questions at? then I would I just wanted to add something to wiser to Councillor Watson amounts yeah certainly parliament thank you sorry Councillor Watson I thought I would check what I told you about the legislation justice I was just beavering
Away while others have been discussing I just wanted to correct the Act I was referring to was the growth and infrastructure Act 2 thousand and 13 and that may change is to have a secretary of state can look at the making of Aldi owes that change was when the DMPO sort of developed
Management procedure rather changed in 2 thousand and 15 which is what my colleagues had been referring to about how they’ve gone through the consultation and things like that and then I already referred to the 27 changes in 20 17 changes in the environmental regulations of IA rags so
Though was of a major changes I don’t be substantially changing anything for the purposes of going from Algeria 1 12 year or two I just wanted to clarify about just in case you be answer I gave was a bit misleading for the purposes of going from Algeria 1 12 year or two. I
Just wanted to clarify about just in case you be answer I gave was a bit misleading, thank you, so I I have a question in the thoughts back to an earlier question from cancer rates or week out in the flood basically within the report and page 48 we have free
Question from cancer rates or work out in the Flood Re scheme within the report and page 48, we have a free point 5 free. My risk of flooding to the so it is from tidal flooding through a combination of high tide my risk of flooding to the so it is from tidal flooding
It says as identified on the Environment Agency mapping through a combination of higher tie stones, and located within Flood Zone 3 which tool the Authority of the site is located in an area we’ve reduce flood risk debt that on first reading sounds a
Little bit of a contrast could we just have some detail as to why we’ve got two different weightings on the flood risk place? yeah that’s why so in terms of the flood risk so initially it’s given a rating in terms of which flood zone it’s
Located in so the site is located in Flood Zone 3 which is an area with a high probability of flooding however these flood zones don’t take into account flood defences that are in place so then you have to look at a subsequent mapping tool which then determines what the actual flood risk is
With those mitigation measures in place so the presence of those flood defences so with the flood defences here and the entire areas in error reproduce risk of flooding because of those defences that are in place flood defences here and the entire areas in error, reproduce risk of flooding because of those defences that
Are in place lovely thank you very much for I’ve also got a question in an portraits reflecting back on some of the early questions along the lines of DP World being a good neighbour and a good Glenwood as well because we’ve had some comments about how do we monitor the building
Along the lines of DP World, being a good neighbour and a good Glenwood as well, because we’ve had some comments about how do we monitor the Bill Dean Hoe and we’ve. I think we’ve been quite clear that that comes under Building Regs regulation or all descended the this season
It doesn’t mean that we’re giving consent for DP will to be their own planning or for Asia that if I understand that on page 398 it is quite a detailed It doesn’t mean that we’re giving consent for DP will to be there, I’m planning or for Asia, that if I understand that
On page 388 it is quite a detailed and long report we have occupiers responsibilities unless this is addendum to Ohio we have occupiers responsibilities unless this is a an addendum to Ohio one. it mentions about the staff survey key and it mentions about the staff survey key and and.
First operation due to the building and the month first operation, due to the building logistics parks during the months of April. action on behalf shall carry out travel per month comprising of the following action on behalf shall carry out travel per month in comprising of the following elements.
I just want rivalry 10 years have we seen though surveys done that they’ve been implement eat are we get in feed back as a Council on had that is being monitored again we’ve got some historic data on the site and looking for back as a Council on had, that is being monitored again,
We’ve got some historic data on the site and I’m not just looking for reassurances that the they’ve been compliant Upton air and therefore would give us comfort that they’re not going to to break move away from net going forward thank the they’ve been compliant up to one hour and therefore
Would give us comfort that they’re not going to to break move away from that going forward. Thank you. I mean that’s probably more one for the the Highways officers and the council but I mean just to give some reassurance going forward in terms of the prior
Notification form we have updated this as well with a requirement for the for it to be confirmed that the occupiers are aware that a travel plans required so it’s moving it is more an upfront thing and that that has to be confirmed before they start works on site
Occupiers are aware that a travel plans required so it’s moving, it is more an upfront thing and that that has to be confirmed before they start works on site essentially, we can go to a Highways officers from Julian we can go to a highways officer from Julian, thank you, thank you Chair.
One of our transport colleagues and National Highways to on a travel Plan committee that I think meets every 6 months to monitor travel plan measures and and how how how the working and whatever is so that that that is required months, to monitor travel plan measures and and how how how
The working and whatever is so that that that is regularly monitored, yes, that’s very reassuring and the answer I was looking for so thank you for that do we have any more questions on this cancer Ratso thank you Chair thanks for bringing up the
Flooding because I feel like déjà vu some of them are set on this 10 years ago and it sort of them coming back again the flooding because I feel like deja vu some of that are set on this 10 years ago and it sort of them coming back again. yeah
There was little three paragraphs which says of 3 point 5 6 is better confirmed the except continued use of Thurrock Borough Council Strategic Flood Risk Assessment I mean you know published in 2 thousand and better confirmed the except continued use of Thurrock Borough Council Strategic Flood Risk Assessment, published in 2018.
I hate to say and I hope it ever happens but never happens but if the barrier goes we lose so something I know there’s an officer now in the Council on working on the flood risk so at least got somebody imposition to work on that now, but I think we shouldn’t
Take it lightly. it’s it we are changing that waterway a little bit so we have got to look at the flood risk in depth thank it’s it, we are changing that waterway a little bit, so we have got to look at the flood risk in death, thank you. Councillor Shelagh thank you Chair.
My question is on pollution levels since the first star of the build their as there’d been monitored and of the pollution levels at all because it’s quite concerning when we’re getting more traffic in and out of the area the build, their as there’d been monitored and of the
Pollution levels at all, because it’s quite concerning when we’re getting more traffic in and out of the area. consultation would be perhaps be direct in the air quality with when sign pollution consultation would be perhaps be direct in the air quality with when St pollution rather than. I thank you just
I thank you just for clarification. we’re looking at Council officers I think to to we’re looking at council officers offering to to. call them on or in call them on or in. thank you Chair I guess it would be someone within our environment environmental team it wouldn’t be part of
Thank you Chair, I guess it would be someone within our environment, Environmental team, it wouldn’t be part of highways. yeah yeah it would appear we can’t answer your question Councillor cynic but I’ll Woking I is quite concerning because you know we left right so I’ll definitely thing a lot of the
Questions that had been raised tonight we do need to capture those and put them to left right, so I’ll definitely think that a lot of the questions that had been raised tonight, we do need to capture those and put them to officers. in readiness for the empty O2 I don’t think they’re very
Pertinent questions but as this as that is the new document that’s gonna follow formulate the next 10 years we we are in a little bit are believed looking retrospectively at least 1 point 5 it is more enablement then a new document if I understand if I’ve understood the process correctly if
We have no more questions unlike tiffany’s list Mac Cafferty by are we happy to open for debate process correctly, if we have no more questions unlike tiffany’s list MacCafferty, by are we happy to open for debate would anybody like to would anybody like to start the Dubai?
Councillor Rachel sorry to keep coming in when you turn your presentation on you read the red and the Green and or whatever it was blow yeah you had that grey area is that the whereas the ship’s come in and and or whatever was that coming out into the water or still
The whereas the ships come in and and or whatever it was that coming out into the water or was that still on land that is still there? I take no Lincoln bring up the plan again it might be worth it’s the one with the the master plan the presentation
I take no can bring up the plan again, it might be worth it’s the one with the the master plan, with the buildings in the presentation. so yet so at the so say the red lines are the other roads within the within the logistic park and the red buildings
Are those which which had been developed and the blue are the ones coming forward this grey within the within the logistic Park and the red buildings are those which which had been developed and the blue are the ones coming forward, this grey buildings just below.
Do you mean right down at the bottom that’s that’s the Dock here they’re the possessive of the Port do you mean right down at the bottom that’s that’s the dock here they’re the possessive of the Port yeah? yes yes yes, yes, yes.
That was done quite a while ago yeah OK that’s all I want you to know thank you that’s why I that was done quite a while ago, yeah, OK, that’s all I want you to know, thank you, that’s why I asked about the dredging,
That was in connection with that it was in connection with the construction of the Port not not the that was in connection with that, it was in connection with the construction of the port, not not the logistics park. Councillor Watson, thank you. I actually feel quite reassured about this going forward on
The 1 point 5 especially around the environment and also about the EIA I’m quite I think going forward there’s been some really salient points being made by members to die and look forward to that coming back to be honest with you ran the glad the pollution control the climate I think
There needs to be something more putting their even though on 2 6 8 they have got a pollution control. because I feel really reassured and thank you so much for the legal advice that come through because actually I’m quite risk averse than anything else and it fits showed me
I’m quite happy to support the legal advice that comes through, because actually I’m quite risk averse than anything else and it showed me, I’m quite happy to support this. with the caveat that we actually get to him before 1 point 5 with the caveat that we actually get to him before 1.5 runs
Out place. thanks any other comments familiar with any other comments familiar with councillors at the moment. I’d just like to sum up I just think there’s an awful lot of work going into this document for effectively what is a step is though not do very much appreciate and legal
Support today because it is a very complex piece of legislation and I would like to thank all the officers involved in making sure that the the Committee have been supported only speakers I think in planning terms it is probably a once in a lifetime experience for for most of
Our ease the fact that we are moving towards a second Odeo must be quite unique within the Planning world so obviously we want to set the bench we want to make sure that we ask the right questions we want Mitchell that we are comfort you to buy what will be enablement
Set the bench. We want to make sure that we ask the right questions. We want Mitchell that we are comforted by what will be enablement to allow economic development and growth and to support the industry there is invested in Thurrock so we we take D. P. Williams
Economic development and growth and to support the industry that has invested in Thurrock. So we, we take DP World for bringing such a good neighbours we’ve had from Councillor Bone and are and I have heard from other ward councillors yesterday on another matter that bringing such a good neighbours. We’ve had from Councillor
Bowen, A and R, and I have heard from other ward councillors yesterday, on another matter, that that there is a a committee I believe where residents Kenny guy Janice’s something we encourage quite often community use agreements and things like that we’ve been planning so that we we pre-empt or we have continued dialogue
Big community use agreements and things like that we’ve been planning so that we we pre-empt, or we have continued dialogue, we, we’ve big neighbours, de so that residents do feel that they have got input and their voices are heard so I I if everybody satisfied with
Their questions and if everybody’s happy with the level of debate I’d like to move on this application if it their questions and if everybody’s happy with the level of debate I’d like to move on this application if or when content but we cannot go to Councillor from you Councillor
But we cannot go to Councillor from personnel, come back to you, Councillor rental. OK. did you put your hand up to did you put your hand up to pushy vote in I haven’t moved the motion yet Councillor Booth I haven’t moved the motion yet Councillor Bird. I
And to central preoccupation you’ve got some personal issues so I do understand thank you Councillor rates are you just did you query when you when you sent 428 thousand 858 was it haven’t got the right figure in front of me near but you only got two responses back did you
You just did you query when you when you sent 428,858 was it haven’t got the right figure in front of me near, but you only got two responses back, did you know not? wonder why there was only toe it doesn’t say nothing Councillor piccolo picked it up a little while ago it seems
That we’ve had a list of all the consultant who was consulted and it’s been a full list and the fact that you’ve received 2 results is back obviously suggests they’ve been received so I mean that’s the information that we’ve got another responses and they’re the ones published
On on your website so even though you were to against did the people who were sent anything on published on on your website. So, even though you were to against, did the people who were sent letters out to did they not put anything on their at all?
No other comments have been received from no other comments have been received from residents now. I think that can only be indicative of them being such good neighbour because they’ve got continued dialogue residents that I think that can only be indicative of them being such good
Neighbour because they’ve got continued dialogue with the residents that. that perhaps issues have been dealt with can only make that assumption because some to at least be just on that that the two comments of complaint were to do with speed of vehicles rather than traffic movements or quantity of
Movements and I am aware now that the the cameras there in and I think there is a testament to to Dappy was out on a On a quite extensive consultation did we only responses so On a quite extensive consultation, did we only had two responses so?
This time we’re gonna try and move further recommendations is everybody happy for that everyone can this time we’re gonna, try and move further recommendations, is everybody happy for that everyone can take? so recommendations as per the repo 1 point 1 night the council’s earlier decision that the development to be
Authorised by London Gateway linguistic park local development order 1 point 5 will not adversely affect integrity of the European authorised by London Gateway, linguistic park, local development order 1.5 will not adversely affect the integrity of the European saw it. offshore Marine so either alone or in combination with
Other planes agreed to make all TPO 1 point 5 subject to the signing of Section 1 0 6 agreement and no requirement of Councillor to 1 point 5 might signing of section 1 0 6 agreement and no requirement one of Councillor to advise the secretary of state of the audio 1.5 might
If police cars and I mean almost gunship in as well so there are various protections were to arise out of various if police cars and I mean always gunship in as well, so there are various protections were to arise out of various different.
Recognitions but originally raised out of the EU so we have things like Ramsar sites things like sites of specific scientific recognitions, but originally raised out of the EU, so we have things like Ramsar sites, things like triple-A size, which sites of specific scientific interest.
Surrey aspect of a mouthful there are others which are recognised internationally through conventions we manage them in the UK by Sanctuary Group and them all together under one set of regulations to protect from using essentially the same types of protections and so yeah I
Mean essentially that a long list of different things they all come through the same way which is matching our international obligations through various routes through our own domestic law I don’t know if it’s useful for me to go through them individually and we have actually come from
But hopefully that gives you a bit of a high level summary of what they do yeah sorry identify answered your from, but hopefully that gives you a bit of a high level summary of what they do. Yeah sorry identify, answered your question thank you for that I just think there’s other paper and
Here we don’t understand what that means so just the clarity was good thank you for that because and again just the point of clarity that was the that was the recommendation that we’ve already taken on item 9 so that was in relation to that report so
The point of clarity that was the that was the recommendation that we’ve already taken on Item 9, so that was in relation to that report so, J just to note that we had already taken J just to note that we had already taken that report. Councillor magnitude you on account
Councillor magnitude, you wanna cut out sorry so again it done that I don’t need to read them again we did just go to recommendation 1 point 1 1 point 2 1 point 3 it do I have a seconder for that so again it done that I don’t need to read them again, we
Did just go to recommendation 1.1 1.2 1.3 it do, I have a seconder for that counts Miami. are we in agreement is that unanimous agreed thank are we in agreement is that unanimous a great thank you? I will die before we go to next item and are thank you for
The paper in the gallery there’d been really patient I just would like to go to chief planning officer come in at the paper in the gallery that have been very patient, I just would like to go to chief planning officer would like to come in at this point.
Thank you Chair I just wanted to say to members of Planning Committee thank you Chair, I just wanted to say to Members of the Planning Committee that. there’s a lot of things that people say along with her but one thing that you should be really proud of and that is
When this was put in place 10 years ago this was absolutely cutting edge and these are some of the largest LDA’s in the whole country and it’s been managed and delivered in an absolutely cutting edge and these are some of the largest LDA’s in the whole country and it’s been managed and
Delivered in an impeccable way. to agree which is all the new free ports and they’re looking at what Thurrock are doing and have done in the past and look into us how to do things for the future so I think that this this is something this Council should be proud of, that they,
We’re sort of forward thinking through this process and have brought it forward in in a in a really good way and I just wanted to make that on record because I think it’s really important that sometimes we actually praises brought it forward in in a in a really good way, and I just
Wanted to make that on record because I think it’s really important that sometimes we actually sing our own praises thank you very much and I just would like to add my comments in we thank you very much, and I just would like to add my comments in that we.
Our planning department has been exemplary and older groundwork that has gone in before we met Gallagher and other officers such as our highways and that and then for the right you and Emma Lynn topic nice up to get as where
We are we still got a lot of work going forward and I think you know given our current situation the right, you and Emma Lynn topic lies up to get us where we are, we still got a lot of work going forward and I think you know given our current situation,
With the section 1 1 4 it is really still with the section 1 1 4 it is really encouraging that we still have we still have industry committee to Farah Campbell at weekends to be looking forward and looking for I’d I’d we still have industry can eat farro Campbell at weekends,
Do be looking forward and looking for growth, so I do think that. we’ve we’ve got a lot to thank our officers for and Davis Ballesteros so this report if this is 1 point we’ve we’ve got a lot to thank our officers for and Davis Ballesteros, so this report, if this is 1.5
With trepidation I can’t imagine how many pages there will be no D 0 5 or perhaps not eyes with trepidation, I can’t imagine how many pages there will be no D 0 5, perhaps not eyes. sir Odeo to Surrey perhaps that it was a low
Sir Odeo to Surrey perhaps that it was a low. slippage tango so I’ll let slippage tongue, so on that note. thank you for everybody’s input and efforts and thank you for everybody’s input and efforts and we so officers so officers that are not. the consultants can leave to the meeting there because the
NYT subject does it relate to them the consultants can leave to the meeting their cousin subject, does it relate to them, thank you very much. just isn’t the sort of were with with the Committee’s agreement it go through with Clarke and capture some of the
Comments that have been made and put them into a document that are circulated a planning committee and then perhaps we can put that forward the comments that have been made and put them into a document that also collected a planning committee, and then perhaps we can put that forward to.
To the officers that are working on Odeo to would that be agreed by the Committee thank you because I think there were absolutely with some very pertinent points made you agreed by the Committee, thank you, because I think there were absolutely with some very pertinent points made, thank you.
Also as regards other issues we do have consultations regarding local development plan an area of plans so some of those comments can be fed into them and I would urge members we we get because we we have discussions of those comments can be fed into them, and I would urge
Members we we get, because we we have discussions, that we we, See different briefings sometimes we need to remember we were residents toe and we need to put our comments on as well so I would just encourage all Members to to do See different briefings, sometimes we need to remember, we
Were residents toe and we need to put our comments on as well, so I would just encourage all Members to to do that. thank you. so we are now moving on to so we are now moving on to next item. agenda Item number 10 as I said at the beginning meeting we
Do have to speakers for this this item and I’ll just go to look so that he can advise the speakers and there can equate the processes for we do have two speakers for this this item, and I’ll just go to look so that he can advise the speakers and the
Committee equate the processes for speaking, thank you, I do apologise up to I just don’t and update the objector the the rest than isn’t prison in the gallery and has requested that we read out this statement so what OJ’s I’ll take the report were asked their questions and then we’ll
Have we were able to report read out from the I’ll take the report, who ask their questions and then we’ll have we were able to report read out from the objector and then will, take the presentation from the agent he said Putin agreement take the presentation from the agent he said, putting in
Agreement with that OK. so agenda item number 10 Planning application 2 3 0 0 4 4 2 full car parks cram Road Dunley and if we can go to Chris perverse to prefers present the ripple please thank you 2, FULL car parks cram Road Dunley, and if we can go to
Chris perverse to prefers present the ripple, please, thank you, thank you, Chairman. it was only half it was only half showing. thank you Chairman slot technical error thank you Chairman slot technical error. should flick through yes should flick through it. do you need me to continue
Do you need me to continue with ought to wait? can I go to commit to send Goody need to come can I go to commit to send good, you need a comfort break at the summit? abu to suspend the Committee for a few minutes just to
Allow members to take a comfort break thank abu to suspend the Committee for a few minutes just to allow Members to take a comfort break, thank you. officers to officers to do we ever everyone back in the room are we ready to resume
Do we have everyone back in the room, are we ready to resume? Councillor Lydia Councillor Lydia, which is we’ve pretty to continue with we’ve pretty to continue with, thank you. Luca we back live-streaming thank you Luca, we back live-streaming, thank you so. agenda Item number agenda Item number 10.
But to ask Chris Purvis to present a Risa ripple please and thank you thank you Chair so this is a platform planning application for the erection of a part 5 part 4 part 3 storey building to occupy the existing Crown Road car park and permission has also sought for a separate two storey
Building to occupy the northern end of Dunley Road car park and permission is also sought for a separate 2 storey building to occupy the northern end of Dunley Road car park the Crown Road part of that anyone would provide 51 apartments split over for internal levels with 20 of the
Units being for affordable housing the rest market housing and the Dunley Road part of the development would provide to apartments bit over two internal levels at the northern end of the car park proposed also include associated parking landscaping amenity areas access infrastructure and refuse and recycles at refuse stores and cycle spike stores
Parking, landscaping, amenity areas, access infrastructure and refuse and recycles at refuse stores and cycle spike stores. so this is the location plan the site is approximately 0 point 6 1 hectares comprises to the CA Kwame Road car park and the Dunley Road car park as well as the road to the the
West of the Dunley Road car parking space under the existing Derby Road Bridge where there is this further Dunley Road car park, as well as the road to the the west of the Dunley Road car parking space under the existing doorway road bridge where there is this further parking.
Also the area to the north east herself is residential to register self is the railway line to the south of also, the area to the north east herself is residential to register itself is the railway line to the south of Crown Road that is?
To the west is that the main part of grace town centre and this site sits within the town centre area in terms of the Inset Map and the Borough Local Plan to the west is that the main part of grace town centre and
This site sits within the town centre area in terms of the Inset Map and the Borough Local Plan. some slides to show so it looks like at present so you got an aerial photo there to show this the site and the surroundings and you’ve got a couple of free D images
That’s looking north and that’s looking south-east roughly from the multi-storey car park look in surroundings and you’ve got a couple of free D images that’s looking north and that’s looking south-east roughly from the multi-storey car park looking south-east, Crown Road. Manley Road again looking into the saucy looking into the
On some sort of Crown Road looking Look North on some sort of Crown Road, looking towards the site said, West Area there in terms of the top two photos and North in Look North. and towards the terms of Stanley Road. as it leads up to traffic lights Dunley Road part of the
Site he got the part of the car park there and the proposed buildings you’ll see in a moment is proposed end terrace building site he got the part of the car park there and the proposed buildings you’ll see in a moment is proposed next to the end terrace, building their shown in the
Next to the car park next to the car park from the top picture there is taken from Derby Road bridge looking towards the Dunley Road car park and the buildings and Dunley Road there and the one to the the bottom is the Crown Road car park again taken for Darley Road
Looking towards the Dunley Road car park and the buildings and Dunley Road there, and the one to the the bottom is the Crown Road car park again taken for Darley Road Bridge. this is the proposed site plan or block this is the proposed site plan or block Plan.
It shows the proposed development with a larger building occupying the crown it shows the proposed development with a larger building occupying the Crown Road car park. and an associated amenity space which essentially located and directly located behind the the buildings of a building and and associated amenity space, which is centrally
Located and directly located behind the the buildings of a building. Rather, the present at the northern end of also the present at the northern end of Dunley Road car park is also shown there obviously that solutions are part of Dunley Road car park
To do that but that shows the building there in terms of its layout and relationship with neighbouring buildings in to do that, but that shows the building there in terms of its layout and relationship with the neighbouring terraced buildings in Dunley Road. associated the podium element would be free on-street car
Parking spaces thing you can just make them out there to the western on Dunley Road and a disabled Road car park parking spaces, thing you can just make them out there to the western, on Dunley Road and a disabled spaces in Danny Road car park.
So this is zoomed in just on the Crown Road part of the development appreciate difficult to see the internal arrangements but they are all the flats that are shown there you’ve got a bin store directly to the north of the boundary there there are other bin stores located around as
Well there’s a lay-by area there for service in a refuge lorries but what this will create here which isn’t there at present is a pedestrian route around the front of the site well there’s a lay-by area there for service in a refuge lorries but what this will create here which isn’t there at
Present is a pedestrian route around the front of the site. and increasing and improving the visual side of things in terms of landscaping with trees shown to be planted as well there and within this amenity area so far more in landscape in which also has biodiversity benefits as well compared to
The site as an existing surface level car park of there and within this amenity area so far more in landscape in which also has biodiversity benefits as well compared to the site as an existing surface level car park of now have a series of now have a series of floor plans.
So that’s the ground-floor plan compared to the so that’s the Ground floor Plan gained a bit more zoomed in compared to the previous one that’s the first floor plan that’s the first floor plan. second floor, a third floor so you can see where the tops of buildings
Are those Grazia grey areas so some areas project to higher than others you’ll see that in the elevation plans as well at the moment and that’s the fourth floor so the highest part of the building which is the fifth storey if you like is nearest Derby Road Bridge many slippage designed like
That because of the height difference in terms Derby Road Bridge and furthest away from houses that are further terms Derby Road Bridge and furthest away from the two storey terraced houses that are further just outside of the site. so here’s there’s some elevations and the top 1 is taken
Form if you like for Crown Road it’s more of a section drawing as well because you’ve got the section of the bridge there and the section of the multi-storey car park but it does show you the front or principle one of the principal elevations you could be argued to be to here for
This Crown Road development the other being that the the one off the bottom picture which is the East elevation of the building and then as you can this Crown Road development the other being that the the one off the bottom picture which is the East elevation of
The building and then, as you can see, it does step down towards the residential properties towards the residential properties has shown. that’s the western elevation bottom 1 is probably a clearer one you can also see the Dunley Road development but the top 1 if he would ever side of the bridge obviously the
Breach cuts through the visual image of of that in terms of that and that’s the detail from an architectural drawing that’s within the application just to give you an idea of how the balconies are proposed the detailing on the brickwork and coping stones so that’s gives you an idea of
That and that’s also to reflect sort of the bay detailing on the brickwork and coping stones, so that’s gives you an idea of that and that’s also to reflect sort of the bay window arrangements. that are in the character of of of the area a lot of
Properties down in terms of terraced houses at bay windows sort of a before shot and this is what it would look obviously not quite the size of that but that’s just to afterwards if planning permission is granted and the development is built out so it is different though you’d
Reflect that in terms of the lose the access into the car park they obviously because there’s no need for a cup there won’t be a car park there anymore. and the road was still showing the roundabout there is still free junctions in effect coming up obviously where this once
And the road was still showing the roundabout there is still free junctions in effect coming off the roundabout, obviously, where this one’s taken as well. from Derby Road bridge that’s another visual to see to show how the building would look in the context of its
Surroundings moving to the Dunley Road part of development so as to the northern into the car park you can see if it were clear there the parking spaces the free on-street ones to allocated for car club one for disabled space and there’s disabled space swelled in Dunley Road car park as
Well as to retained 16 existing spaces and delivery park so this disabled space and there’s disabled space swelled in Dunley Road car park, as well as to retained 16 existing spaces and Dunley Road car park. So this is one flat on the ground floor and one on the the ground floor plan
One flat on the ground floor and one on the first horse, that’s the ground floor plan and that’s the first floor plan and that’s the first floor plan. there’s an image looking south-east from street level of before and hopefully we’ve got one of afterwards if
Planning permission is granted and the site developed it would appear to be it would appear like this you can also see the Crown Road part of development of background to give an idea of the context of relationships see the Crown Road part of development of background to
Give an idea of context of from a streetscene relationships perspective. there is a very detailed landscape Strategy provided this application to help emphasise and show the green area of the site and compared to existing there’s a detailed I thought about the amenity space in there but there is also
A detailed play space so families can live in these these properties there are a lot of to bid for properties so potentially families could live here and obviously have the benefit of that play space with the young children properties there are a lot of to bid for properties so
Potentially families could live here and obviously have the benefit of that play space with the young children. and obviously mentioned the greenery in terms of the site and the and the streets seemed to improvements compared to its existing visual appearance and that’s again an image of
How it could look when fully developed obviously a bit I’ve over a bit of time before those trees get to that sort of hate but that gives you an idea of the ideas in terms of landscape Strategy that they are the architects and developers are would be looking to achieve from this
Of hate but that gives you an idea of the ideas in terms of landscape Strategy that they are the architects and developers are would be looking to achieve from this. obviously touch on the car parking just just to give you an idea of again of those spaces so these you’ve got the free
On-street once the green once they are the retained once in Dunley Road car park the Blues that disabled space and you’ve got the service area down here on the eastern side of the east elevation of the building in the street space and you’ve got the service area down here on the
Eastern side of the east elevation of the building in the street. so just to summarise the development it’s the president would provide 53 apartments on site making better use of urban land in this edge of town centre location and the introduction of visage for development in the town centre
Has been a long term vision of the Council and is identified with various studies that have been produced since the current Local Plan was adopted the greatest town centre framework in 2 thousand and 17 and the more recent Grace town centre study in 2 thousand and 23 both help
Provide useful guidance to this but both our evidence base documents rather than planning policy to sue aware of that however the MRP as national policy does encourage residential development within town centres to supplement existing town centre uses encourages reuse of brownfield land so this appraisal does a quarter of those aspects of
The National Planning Policy and therefore the principle of development is considered acceptable 53 departments would contribute to the Council’s housing land supply that proposal would create a high quality energy efficient design development with the benefit of dedicated communal amenity space in the centre of the development we’ve
Improved landscape in a bio diversity opportunities obviously one of the key aspects of and consideration of this application is the loss of all of Crown Road car park and part of Darley Road car park that’s about 100 8 spaces in total but the evidence suggests that there’s been
Submitted with the application from the highway consultants that from parking survey work as detailed in the report that not all the car park is used and not all of the streets are used to their capacity at present this is obviously something we’ve we’ve looked at very carefully
Through the planning application and the Council was Yates paragraph 2 says which does allow for. less parking in town centre uses like this tattoos assaults like this there is a mitigation package that from the council is less parking in town centre uses like this tattoos assaults
Like this, there is a mitigation package that is required from the Council’s Highways Authority and that would be secured for a number of planning conditions and also through Section 1 0 6 contributions which includes upgrades to the existing controlled Parking Zone to make this 24 hours rather than what it is at
Present which is 9 2 6 Monday to Saturday provision of car club spaces and a scheme for that current parking arrangements and present, which is 9 2 6 Monday to Saturday provision of car club spaces and a scheme for that improvements to the current parking arrangements under Derby Road Bridge,
They would all be subject to financial contributions to the council and for the applicant to enter into a 2 7 8 agreement also within the recommendation of the report are further planning conditions on all material planning considerations as well as a number of other planning
Obligations the standard once you sought to see in terms of achieving 35 per cent at least affordable housing healthcare contribution he got the Essex rams contribution which is also required from an ecology perspective and education contribution is in there as well as a monitoring fee as well the recommendation to this planning committee
Is to grant planning permission recommendation well. The recommendation to this Planning Committee is to grant planning permission as detailed in the recommendations section of the report thank you very much Mr. Purvis yes I did say earlier I pleaded the Committee we do have to speak his
Thank you very much, Mr. Purvis, yes, I did say earlier, I clean at the Committee, we do have to speak his. I as the statement from NEET objector from local residents isn’t prison I will read out the addressed I, as the statement from the objector from local residents
Isn’t prison, I will read out the addressed to the Committee. this has come from a Mr. Baker a local residents and I believe all members have a copy of it so this has come from a Mr. Baker, a local resident, and I
Believe all members have a copy of it in front of them. the property I own Mr. Baker owns is opposite the property I own Mr. Baker owns is 81 Stanley Road opposite the car park, I have no objection in principle to direction of flats on
The car park however the issue of car parking or more to the point lack of car parking is likely to have a detrimental effect on my property it would be beneficial to all the properties if some public car park spaces were made available to accommodate visitors to the properties 79 81
And 83 as mentioned in his letter as the only available parking space at present is the crime Road car park this is due to the residents only parking on the street not been available to those properties due to the Stanley Road and cram
Due to the residents only parking on the street not been available to those properties due to the roundabout at Stanley Road and cram Road. a lack of public parking would make life very difficult for callers to those addresses is there any road consideration should also be given to loading unloading of removal
Lawyers and delivery trucks particularly when we go regard to road safety that is the end of the statement from the lorries and delivery trucks, particularly when we go regard to road safety, that is the end of the statement from the resident, I also have a Speaker from the agent in support of the
Committee in support of the application I also have a Speaker from the agent in support of the Committee in support of the application apologies. and would go to the Speaker to radar is and would go to the Speaker to radar is address, thank you.
Thank you Chair thank you members of the Committee my name is a joke farmer I’m and associated plant thank you Chair, thank you, members of the Committee, my name is a joke, farmer, I’m an associate planner at DLP Planning. acting on behalf of Thurrock councils housing
Acting on behalf of Thurrock Councils Housing Development Team, in supporting this in supporting this planning application. the applicants have been working closely with the Council’s planning officers to develop the the applicants have been working closely with the Council’s planning officers to develop the best solution
For the site the applicant has worked proactively with the planning team particularly with regards to design and transport matters the applicants have also engage proactively with the local community by going through to full public consultation processes whose comments have been fed into and are reflected within the design of the scheme
Proactively with the local community by going through to full public consultation processes whose comments have been fed into and are reflected within the design of the scheme. the development will provide 53 new self-contained flats to the scheme will deliver 20 affordable housing units 15 via
The new to the local housing market responding to thoughts demonstrable need to deliver housing the affordable rent scheme and five either shared ownership scheme which were again Aidan tackling thorpe’s affordable housing crisis the scheme also delivers a policy the policy objected at that development should be directed to
Sustainable town centre locations as such as the Dunley Road Crown Road car parking sites the mix of one and two bedroom units to target the very demographic that we have that we have in the to a town centre location, light greys, the proposal seeks to address the demonstrable need for
Affordable housing within Thurrock with the scheme offering 37 point 7 per cent of the proposed units for affordable housing exceeding policy requirements of 35 percent in order to assist again in order to assist in tackling the offering 37.7% of the proposed units for affordable housing
Exceeding policy requirements of 35%, in order to assist again in order to assist in tackling the housing crisis. given this town centre location the site is prime opportunity to proposed development with reduced level of car parking in a location that is well served leisure and transport facilities
Opportunity to proposed development with the reduced level of car parking in a location that is well served by shopping, leisure and transport facilities. the need to reduce reliance on cars results in the need to promote sustainable travel and indeed reduced carbon emissions in response to the emergency
Promote sustainable travel and, indeed, reduced carbon emissions in response to the nationally declared climate emergency. it’s important to note that thorax vision for the Borough as specified within it’s important to note that thorax vision for the Borough as specified within their transport strategy. seeks to build pride responsibility and respect to create a
Respect to create seeks to build pride, responsibility and respect, to create a respect to create safer communities. improve health and wellbeing and protect and promote are clean and green environment the reduction on the reliance of vehicle usage particularly within the sustainable centre clean and green environment. The reduction on the reliance
Of vehicle usage, particularly within the sustainable town centre locations, such as the application site is key to achieving this vision in policy terms I referred to Policy C S T P 14 which states that the Council will deliver such as the application site, is key to achieving this
Vision in policy terms, I referred to Policy C S T P 14, which states that the Council will deliver at least 10%. reduction in car traffic in urban areas such as the application site and sets out how the Council will seek to achieve this further to promote active transport measures
53 covered and convenient long stake cycle parking facilities but will be provided to residents in the communal 53 covered and convenient long stake cycle parking facilities, but will be provided to residents in the communal amenity area in addition 54 visitor cycle parking spaces will also be
Provided the design reinforces fabric first approach in ensuring that the buildings are well-insulated and not able to perform well in terms of energy efficiency through the integration of low carbon heating and ventilation systems to perform well in terms of energy efficiency through the integration of low carbon heating and ventilation systems. SuDS design
Thus design features and in terms of biodiversity thus design features and in terms of biodiversity, enhancement of the site. in design terms of the applicant has worked proactively with the Council’s planning officers provides a high quality development that provides policy provide policy and national standards compliant living spaces landscaped
Outdoor amenity errors private amenity associated facilities national standards, compliant living spaces, landscaped, outdoor amenity errors, private amenity spaces and associated facilities. the proposed design incorporates measures to demonstrate compliance with policy P M de 13 in ensuring that at least 20 per cent of the energy to be used on site is sourced via
Renewable energy sources the applicant has sought to create a visually impressive development through the careful articulation of elevations and in quality a visually impressive development through the careful articulation of elevations and in integration of high quality, landscaping, the proposed design will create a will result in a positive
Impact in creating new active street frontages a new public routes and pavements throughout the sites new public realm landscaping and addressing the and addressing the scale of the Dalai road bridge which currently dominates the area visually The proposed sign is derived from references to the existing architectural features found within the
Surroundings of the sites such as the proposed balconies fronting Crown Road and and indeed Stanley found within the surroundings of the sites, such as the proposed balconies fronting Crown Road and and indeed Stanley Road. which had been designed with reference to as Chris which had been designed with reference to the bay windows,
As Chris mentioned. of the surrounding houses so in summary the be of the surrounding houses, so in summary, the proposal should be approved because you can see it seeks to deliver a high quality development hereby and PR by providing additional 53 new therefore reducing the car dependency and in turn
Homes 37 point 7 percent of which will be affordable minimising carbon emissions, which is in line with both national and local policy direction. is therefore concluded that the proposed development is acceptable in both planning and design your consideration is therefore concluded that the proposed development is
Acceptable in both planning and design terms. Thank you for your consideration. thank you very much for your addressed to the Members of any Christians duvet in relation to that a dress before out thank you very much for your addressed to the Members of any Christians duvet, in relation to that dress, before
Opening up to officers. yeah yeah yeah Councillor Watson question of clarity please thank you can you just clarify yeah yeah, yeah, Councillor Watson, question of clarity, please, thank you, can you just clarify for May, that the applicants actually Thurrock council housing that
Is doing this and if this come in high Charvy obviously is coming General Fund and it is important even though this is is doing this, and if this come in high Charvy, obviously is coming General Fund, and it is important, even though this is planning.
Go to Mr. Parker I can answer the questions the first question in terms of the applicant is the Council’s housing team I can’t answer the second question and there’s no one from housing here to unless somebody else can answer the question in that respect can I just clarify then are we
Here to go through the planning application to give authorisation for fabric to build or for us to seek planning application to sell that that on as with planning application in place for developer when the application was submitted and certainly disgusting PrEP it was the
Council’s intention as the housing team as I understand it to develop the site at that point in time but a more recent months of have been informed this site is on the as assets disposal list so is it a site that is being looked at to be
Sold in the future nevertheless we’ve still got a planning application before is that we need to determine and the planning permission goes through the land if decided to grant planning we’ve still got a planning application before us that we need to determine and the planning permission goes through
The land. If we, if we decide to grant planning permission this is just come in I did read them to be honest I read the application itself I didn’t really graphs the fact that it was actually a favourite Councillor so read the application itself, I didn’t really grasped the
Fact that it was actually a favourite Councillor that was doing that so. I just want I’m really unsure where we stand here because if we we go ahead and go here you know what for him build it but we may not get what we want what we’re going to
Jewish as part and we might sell it on with just there’s a planning application in force not necessarily what this scheme is as one and Jewish as part, and we might sell it on with just there’s a planning application in force not necessarily what the scheme is as one and secondly,
Whereas this even bidding to scrutiny or anywhere like that to be agreed in the beginning that we can go ahead and do this because I’m just I’m just a little bit lost here that they’re not the affordable homes so what we’re talking about Local Local Housing Allowance affordable homes are we
Talking about social housing foreign-born the Council can’t effectively sale so a property unless it’s got a sell at throw homes, are we talking about social housing foreign-born, the council can’t effectively sale so a property unless it’s got a vehicle to sell it throw and
I just I’m not really comfortable until I’ll get some clarity around those questions for it and make a decision on this application sorry Councillor Watson we’ve come to lake or new powers for that but I don’t this clarity around those questions, to make a decision on this
Application, so it, Councillor Watson, we’ve come to Lake or new powers for that, but I don’t this looks at. let’s get you some answers and but the application before as the to say that the applicants for council and at the moment that lenders in Council
Let’s get you some answers and but the application before us, the to say that the applicant for council and at the moment that land is in Council ownership. so as as we got who’s going to develop those not usually at Planning so as as we got who’s going to develop those properties is
Not usually at Planning Committee. consideration consideration. My consideration is I’m not going to be considering this because I don’t know anything about the background sitting behind that this was a developer coming forward I’m quite happy to do this but because, odd, I don’t know anything about the background
Sitting behind that this was a developer coming forward, I’m quite happy to do this but. I didn’t even know this was really going to die for until we are joint First Caribbean a to go ahead I’m not soy Chair I’m not going to be until I get collaborative on this
I’m not going to take part in any of the are joint First Calvary to go ahead, I’m not soy chair, I’m not going to be until I get collaborative on this, I’m not going to take part in any of the thank you very much.
We we had to take some time at take some advice for the committee to reassure them I we, we had to take some time out to take some advice for the committee to reassure them I realised that it is now.
Call to pass the and I need to ask the Committee if we can extend Standing orders just to address this final piece of business if the committee is that agreed Call to pass the and I need to ask the committee if we can extend Standing orders just to address this final piece of
Business, if the committee is that agreed. regarding regarding regarding agenda item 10 some technical Rye issues have been raised as a result of this report that we for various reasons are unable to answer to the Committee satisfaction tonight so on that basis I am deferring this application
And to all members of the Committee of had a response to their questions is that in agreement with the Committee agreed unanimous thank application and to all members of the Committee of had a response to their questions is that in agreement with the Committee agreed a unanimous thank you. so on that.
On that matter we will deferred the application for another hearing and we will obviously being on that matter, we will defer the application for another hearing and we will obviously be in contact with. the agent add and notified them when that might be so I
Thank everybody for their time tonight sorry to the Speaker for keeping him I have the agent add and notified them when that might be, so I thank everybody for their time tonight, sorry to the Speaker, for keeping him I really exciting meeting.
I now thank you for the committee them one of the things that we always do welcome in East Committee input and we we are very pleased that we’ve been able to find a resolution
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