we talked to Zul Awab, the founder of Holycrit.. a fixed gear race that will be forever known for its underground origins and grassroots support.
    Listen to Zul’s amazing backstory of this race and how it landed him in prison for “illegal street racing” which would be more commonly associated with cars.

    about the guests:
    Zul Awab: @zul.awab
    HolyCrit: @holycrit

    how to get a hold of us:
    podcast@fahrenheitperformance.com
    @fahrenheitperformancepodcast

    Okay welcome to Fahrenheit performance podcast episode number six today we’re talking to zul aab he is the Godfather of fix gear so a lot of you guys probably know him already but uh we’re going to get into his past present and uh and in future so um so why don’t you

    Introduce yourself a little bit and tell us about yourself and where you bit of your history and how you got here yeah uh hi zul as uh Martin mentioned uh founder and uh creator of a holy [ __ ] uh race which is a fixed gear race how do I

    Know Martin way back I don’t think I’ve ever ridden with you or um no never or I didn’t didn’t have another bike fit with you or but we known each other quite well yes uh I think through holy CR I think holy cred uh interlock so many people which which

    Is good which is good so uh been an nvit fixed gear cyclist uh we nicknamed The Godfather of fixed gear uh cycling here in Singapore so yeah that’s about me so I Googled you just before to get ready for this and I promise you this is the

    Only question I want to ask you about the strait times are okay um I know it’s was very dear to your heart um when you were at the bottom right how did it feel when you finally raised that kitten out of the drain because I found this article about

    Friends rescue kitten from the bed Reservoir storm drain during heavy rain and it’s a picture of you rescuing a kitten Um I don’t know what the heck with that was but I wasn’t expecting to see a story of you and the kid okay uh let me just uh uh simplify this I was having a regular run at V Reservoir and uh turning back uh about to go home uh the

    Usual route that I took is usually inside the B reservoir park but something tell me just go outside walk at the parameter of the uh the drainage there might be something you know it’s it’s kind of like okay I walk outside and I saw a what the hell is that so it

    Was a cat and it was drizzling so to make the story short I I don’t have anything I called my wife I said Sarah please come down and bring some ropes and stuff like that she bring towel so we had it was escaping escaping from jail sort of jumping into the

    Drain so uh what I did was I called a few of my my friends uh with rope assess uh AATA which is the international rope assess uh uh uh technical team which is a day job right yeah okay yeah so I called them because I don’t have the

    Tools then I don’t have the equipment they came they rescue and Par was there the uh a few other people was there so yeah so you’re the hero I have cats so I’m an animal lover it doesn’t matter uh if it’s a dog or whatever is inside if it’s animal we try

    To rescue as much as possible yeah so you’re born and raised in Singapore right yes um how how did you get the name Godfather or fix gear uh it was way back in uh 2024 2025 if I can recall 2004 2004 yeah yeah 204

    Yeah so uh I was working in uh the Big Art Center here in Singapore so I had a few of the guys uh who write uh breakless bike and I was really interested I was like [ __ ] what is this you know it’s very so fixed gear basically is a bike without any um

    Without any brakes without any well it’s just a fixed gear right so I guess some they can have brakes or they cannot have brakes but there’s no free willing y right y I think I think the law now says you have to have a single break yeah at

    All times which is kind of it’s kind of kill it kills it but I guess the they they come from a vrum right but then Singapore has got no Vel drum so it’s just sort of the fixed gear culture just generally yeah so uh we talk about the

    Rel room later m so uh uh few of the boys uh rode this bike and I was really interested and I was like hey what bike so I do my my research and you know uh years goes on and on uh I I organize a

    Fixed gear race you know because uh I I wanted to to the guys to Showcase that you know even though without breaks we are still safe and there is a proper technique to to it and you know so that was way back uh when I was working in

    The art center so we did holy crate the first holy crate in Yun industrial park where it was a control confined space and police was there stopping us when we were finishing our two laps the last two laps and they said the police was really good they said okay I let you guys

    Finish I will go out from here and make sure you all you guys cleared the venue say okay yeah so it was the during the hey days where that Holy crate was really underground and uh you know but well fixed gear culture in general it’s kind of got that underground feel

    Right yeah yeah the reason why I write fixed gear I’m sorry to my road uh people who ride road bike and stuff like that we don’t have the capacity to buy $20,000 bike yeah I see I never ask how much the bikes cost these days makes my

    Eyes water yeah so the only the only way that we can enjoy ourselves while cycling is to have a fixed gear and it’s easy set up there’s less maintenance and you know what we guys do is we exchange stuff if I can’t use this you exchange

    With me so that is kind of uh it’s the the family kind of spirit that we have so I I will usually arrange this kind of races this kind of Meetup so that’s why they call me the Godfather of fixed gear so you’re sort of like you’re the one

    That that makes makes it all happen um and then so holy crit right when I first arrived in Singapore 2012 I think it was just around then when you were doing it right y um and it was races with our with just in local streets y in the middle of the night

    Correct um and then I guess it got pretty popular mhm and from what I can from what what I can work out someone like a car got on the course and then that car that guy called the police and then the police came down was over but

    The seeds were already planted right so so during that that that so what so what so tell me uh what why did you start holy crit what was the purpose and sort of how did it grow okay so holy crit was started when Eric uh fix up your gear

    Was the one that sells the bike uh to all these youngsters 15 16 years old so I was with Eric all the time when he has a shop at the black the black book which is in uh Arab Street MH so during that period of time I I see young kids like

    You know my son’s age going to the bike shop and splurging some money $50 for this $30 for that and I tell Eric Eric why not we do a race M to let this boys showcase what they are capable of you know they are buying stuff from you

    Let’s let’s let’s do a race yeah because like there’s red bull races there’s the Red Hook races there’s all these races where it’s really cool to watch um and they’re somewhat underground as well so something similar to those Styles but Singapore yes so uh there’s there’s this

    Uh chinelli brand which is uh like mesh SF in San Francisco it’s a really huge thing during that period of time so everybody was like uh buying a chinell and Eric was the distributor during that period of time so I tell Eric hey why

    Not we do a race okay zul Ken you come up with a name then I was like come up with a name it’s not easy then I say okay never mind so it was a Thursday night and he was at Arab Street where Eric shop is then the call of prayers

    The Muslim call of prayers because Sultan MOS was there mhm so I they were talking very loudly the boys so I say hey keep quiet see why prayer is very holy just give me a few minutes you know so I sit back and Eric why not we call our race

    Holy [ __ ] because it’s holy and it’s a CRI and it’s a criterium say okay you can sell can can we just you know we just see I got my holy t-shirt on right now right so it it became it became a a a name synonym to to to to fix gear holy

    Crate so anybody who has a fixed gear do not know about holy crit they are not you know they’re not the in thing you see during that period of time so uh how do we charge for the race it’s very simple 10 bucks yeah 40 Riders

    $400 we don’t get anything just put the money in the Hat and then Winner Takes all yeah so we did 13 freaking races in Singapore uh I did one in EO uh I did one in indones I did two in Indonesia MH uh there’s a lot is actually a lot so

    But you know during that period of time where we were caught at the last race in tangling mhm uh which is uh the it was not really the driver who called the police yeah stract times was there oh yeah so uh I don’t want to mention names yeah sure it it it’s in

    The past mhm I don’t really care well you can’t be arrested for the same thing twice right I don’t really care because why it’s a blessing in this guys without him giving me the opportunity to be in a front page cost ,000 to adver Holy it’s a freaking

    Blessing in this okay so nice I didn’t think you about that one so maybe I should do that and I was I I wasn’t really thinking about it as well so so he he was there he used Google Glasses to to take photos and uh you know you were

    Like anybody can come down to watch ho crate there’s no fee involved just like Fast and Furious street racing right it is so then so you got so moral the story is you got arrested yeah with Eric yes so we were arrested the the the race

    Holy CR is usually on Friday night mhm so we got arrested on Monday when I was at work the uh assistant Commissioner of police I can’t remember his name personally called me and said hello Mr zulle can you come down to traffic police and Ubie I said okay

    For uh we need to uh we we want to I want you to help us with some investigation that happened on Friday of course they did okay then I said no I’m working yeah oh then it’s okay we will send you a warrant of arrest I said go

    Ahead said go ahead so I spoke to so something it’s not helping with investigation AR arrest so I said okay after work 6:00 I go down to OB I I I brought Sarah along and I was held 72 hours wow for what for a street race yes

    And did someone die at the race no one died at the race right did no one died there’s no injury there’s no ambulance called so it’s just were any cars involved were you racing cars no no it was just kids on bikes yes okay just

    Just want to clarify that so uh we went to the police station been inter interrogated for 72 hours without no food is that like you didn’t leave the police station until what Wednesday yes so they slept in the cell or something yeah I did so the io took over took uh one of

    The io took over a very nice indian dude uh he said sir to tell you the truth I feel demoralized when I have to interview you I said why all my friends are going for Ferrari you know all the uh the modif fight cars and I’m going for bicycle you know how a

    Shame am I that’s it what to do so at least you can get her go home that so when when when he told me that uh I was put in the cell waiting for my bailor which is uh my wife so we we have to be bail out for $5,000 which is which

    Is okay uh but the sad part is they went to my place yeah I was scff the legs and the hand like You’re a murderer yeah for what reason you won’t believe they thought that we were doing betting illegal betting oh so they thought that you were putting down money

    On like Kieran racing in Japan yeah right so they took my computer they took my iPad they took my iPhone so and I was scff and they went in this uh traffic police uh officers without taking the Sho we are Muslim when you go in the house you have to

    Take out your shoes yeah of course everybody in so when when I said to the io I said hey take out your shoe this is a Muslim home oh no this is an investigation I said you are Muslim said uh he cannot see he’s a Muslim so so anyways to cut

    Things short they took my laptop they took my uh they took my iPhone they took my iPad just because that they saw pictures of money been transaction m during some of the videos that we did oh$ 40 $40 * $10 right yeah yeah yeah so uh there are about I I was charged

    About 16 charges one six uh charges so uh say okay wait for court uh will release you uh it was in Midnight the third day midnight so I went home uh got a nice shower got sleep in your own bed yeah so I I was not thinking about it

    Because I know at the end of the day this is just cycling it’s it’s nothing malicious that I did so and I call out my lawyer I don’t have the chance to call my lawyer uh when I was in the the cell isn’t that the one thing in the

    World that you’re supposed to get one call yeah but apparently they said uh you can only call your wife but I said I want need to call my lawyer as well so no your wife can call your I said okay never mind it’s okay so I went up I went

    To thank you uh just to to to mention one name Kata Wong Shashi uh very nice guy who supported me since uh the the the Fiasco and he he was like he he he was like in disbelief he said 40 Years of my practice this is the first time

    About cycling well you this is like the worldwide you’re the Pioneer right no one’s ever been arrested for uh B for cycling races yeah so it was a Hallmark case uh even the DPP and uh the judge said this is a Hallmark case if the DPP

    Needs to charge you they need to come up with something which can compare and if you look I’ve read all the U the previous it’s I’m sorry to curse it’s [ __ ] nonsense I’m sorry but I’ll just click the button on the I I was looking

    At it and I was reading when my lawyers sent it to me I was like okay this is battery assist this is PMD this is you know it’s kind of so basically it was like street car racing like yeah like a GTR versus a Ferrari Cito which which

    Used to happen before right so this is Pedal Power yeah so it was kind of crazy when when when they said they need to charge you whatever it is they need to charge you I said okay but what kind of charges you’re talking about 6 months

    And $50,000 fine I said course just look behind the couch then I was like huh 6 months of imprisonment just for cycling wow so I think Amnesty International would come and get involved that yeah and the best part GNC you know GNC did mention about this uh couple of years

    Back uh regarding this case so I was like Wow GNC you know the big Global cycling Network gcn sorry gcn yeah so I was like wow you know it was kind of uh well that’s a free advertising for you yeah yeah precisely so thank you to the

    Uh the reporter that reported us so uh uh during this period of time Eric was lost he was not here and there he was trying to talk to him but you know he was not as spontaneous as me when people ask question and he he was a bit because he

    Has a business so I can understand that so I tried to not to put him so much pressure of answering a lot of question from other people so uh years goes by it was about 2 years before we we were finally charged in court we went up to

    Court up and down like 20 30 times and it was every time it was a Jour aen aen aen so because the DPP do not have any solid uh base so so finally what what was what was the actual final after the 16 charges what was it it was dropped to

    Four yep uh it was dropped to four charges uh illegal racing with a pedal pedal something something because it doesn’t have anything in the chapter of the uh the law so they have to make something up sure yeah so uh we will find uh $5,000 cash already right yeah yeah $5,000 cash

    And two weeks imprisonment wow so we went to uh uh so you went to Hotel Changi for two weeks uh cluster B4 uh we were remanded for 3 days so B4 is that the luxury side of it or is every single is it the same for everybody yes so so I don’t know

    Anything about CH prison right I just know it’s it’s a bit of a hell it’s it’s it’s like you are you are a drop pedler mhm waiting to be sentenced to like 15 15 years 20 years we are on the same cell yeah uh you have people who does

    CBT 1.3 million 1.4 million dollar I I was talking to them inside you know I’m I’m I’m a very extrovert I like to talk to so how so I’m just GNA ask you random question about right how much time so your sentence is two weeks in yeah right

    So you went to jail for 2 weeks right um how much time are you allowed to get out are you in the cell for all that time 23 hours 23 so you can get out of your cells how big is the cell 5 m 3 m by 3 m

    And there were about eight eight of us 3 m by 3 m oh there’s eight of you in a tree so bunk beds and no there’s no bunk beds it’s hot floor it’s Street flooring with bamboo uh bamboo uh mats and uh our shirt is our uh pillow and we have one

    Toyogo box which we carry everywhere if we need to be awesome but you got free Wi-Fi and you can use your phone as much as you want and I wish so it was kind of I mean if anyone haven’t been in prison before don’t uh that’s my my my my

    Advice uh it’s it’s very hot yeah it’s very very very very hot I guess they’re just trying to make it as hot as possible so you don’t re offend right yeah yeah it is so do you eat Curry every day cuz I forever I heard you better be good otherwise you’re going to

    Go to eat prison and eat Curry right uh no we don’t have that I I don’t have that luxury of uh having Curry or you know like a a a a vegan vegan platter or you know you are vegan right yeah yeah vegan oh so when you ask then you ask a nonar

    No so it’s it’s basically uh if you are religious on your religious part if you are a vegan you know because you are a Buddhist or then they will adher to that other than that you’re Muslim you be v no no no no eat eat whatever we going to

    Give you so there’s no Curry it’s it’s everybody eat the same food everybody smells [ __ ] the the same way that is what they want to do the the bathrooms in that in that cell yeah yeah yeah there is it’s an open concept bathroom which is like in B you can

    See the uh we are being uh in prison we are controlled we wake up at 5:30 a.m. in the morning and you know uh there’s no watch people will the lights will automatically turn on uh then you know oh it’s 5:30 you can you see the sky no

    No windows no windows at all no windows so if everyone turn the lights out you would know what time time of day it was you wouldn’t know where you are uh there is no lights out lights out it’s just one small little fluoresent light that is switched on just because the CCTV

    Cameras is inside the prison the the the cell itself so that you can see our movement inside the prison cell it’s kind of sad but you know uh lesson learned but so you sp you did he serve the whole two weeks or yeah yeah so uh it was kind of uh

    Uh an eye opener sure of course you know uh when I come out of prison uh everybody the the the really uh sad part is when we were doing holy crate yeah nobody wants to be in touch to us but once I come out and Eric come out to

    Prison everybody hey we going to sponsor you this going to sponsor you that can we come nobody wants to be a friend when you’re not famous right and then somebody that’s that’s life actually but anyways so so I just want to thank people who who who’s been supporting

    Holy crit since day one uh and people who just knew about holy crit uh you know it’s it’s really uh a rough road before we even we are the first in Singapore to do to do a race inside a stadium not not built that’s what I was

    Going to ask you so yeah not not not purpose not not built purpose for cycling we are the first one and some other people you know follow up and doing it’s I’m kind of proud I’m I’m I’m very proud of that you know all the hard work

    That we did and you know talking to people talking to sponsors talking to uh uh stakeholders I I I’m I’m very very proud of that so so you came out of prison um and then you did you still have your job or did did they did they I was asked to

    Live from uh uh teaching yeah which is kind of sad with uh uh I was teaching in one of the terer in Singapore I don’t want to mention the name uh uh I love teaching I love teaching students from uh from uh this tertiary yeah been doing it for like

    Five six years uh they were asked I was politely asked to leave yeah which is okay which is fine uh then I get back to work uh I’m a technical uh manager for concerts and stuff okay uh so uh now I’m doing freelance so I have the

    Flexibility of uh not going not going to work every day I get to choose my my work so uh yeah so then so when when did you come out of prison when was that 20 it was in 2014 2014 right y yeah 2014 and then um

    After that you you said you put on the stadium was that the first race was that the first legal race that put the first legal race was in Jalan ban kapal okay SCF uh SCF Dr song approached me say I got this plot of land do you want to do

    The race you give me whatever I will race so I tell Dr s personally okay you go in REI we went to REI there’s a plot of land just beside the Indoor Stadium which is about 400 m it’s like one of the car Parks or something or it it used

    To be uh it used to be uh a warehouse and it become dilapidated then there’s a some uh small hill there with a circular now now the now the N NDS the national development team or whatsoever are using that that place beside Jalan an kapal so

    I got approval from SLA I got this I got there Dr song sponsored some of the stuff uh ambulances were there 700 p.m. at 8:00 we’re going to start the race 700 p.m. the street light is turned off oh so I thought you going to say it’s going

    To start raining no if it’s raining we going to we still going to go ahead so we were like he shits there’s no lights then I call SLA I said hey why are the lights switch off send them an email uh can we turn on the oh because it’s it’s

    Off our grid you have to but my race going to start in in in 5 minutes in in half an hour oh sorry we cannot do anything so because I’m from event company yeah I call few of my 10 Tage uh uh uh Partners can you send me a modular

    Uh like a stand up uh metal highlight why because I’m starting a race and I got no lights in 10 10 to 15 minutes I got two metal highlight and the race is goes on yes the race is just fabulous mhm so that was the first legal race

    There were about two to 300 Riders register for the for for the race and there were like thousands of people outside outside of the Indoor Stadium wanting to come inside and watch so we it it’s like you know I say I’m I’m I’m truly uh grateful uh cuz the holy crit

    Race that you did in the stadium yep was a just about after that first one right yes I think I was there I was there at that race so we we’re were cool you can sit in the stands and watch them watch them race um that’s the first time the

    Bike race has been there is that the last time the bike race has been there has been oh now they finished the ocbc race in the stadium so but that’s not a bike race right yeah so well the second legal race that we did in the National Stadium itself

    The meeting with the hit of event the director for for the uh Sports sub MH say uh tell me more about your race and tell me more you know there’s a lot of you know there’s a lot of great areas that you know I need to so I said okay

    What do you need me to do I will comply because this is National Stadium yeah what one lap of the stadium is how many 400 400 m cuz I was running outside the stadium and that’s only 800 M right so inside the a bit smaller like 20 laps or

    Something people would do yeah so because it was quite challenging because the flooring was mop the individual yeah I remember I remember so uh it’s bit of you know right after the race I asked the guys [ __ ] Z I cannot feel my hands the vibrations like constant vibrations

    That’s why we call it a Race So it was quite it was it was viewed from the stand about two to 3,000 people yeah which is better off than asle during that period of time so 2 to 300 is better than that and we have about what 300 Riders mostly uh I think

    I have about 70 people from overseas that participate in that Holy Creek yeah it is it is it is it is then um so you know quite a lot about events right how to how to put on event I I always hear people complaining about oh how come events are so

    Expensive in Singapore how come this and how come that do you have anything to comment about that since you’re you went from you went from $10 to now okay uh the fee is usually it’s for the auxiliary police it’s for the barricades M just imagine if the the race which we

    So let’s let’s imagine here we’re in Aina right we’ve got Thompson Road we’ve got Ira road we got mman Road and we’re going to do a a lap R here y so you need to block all the roads yes and then you need to put those white and red and

    White barriers corre for the whole course the water water barricades yeah what they need you need a ambulance yes in case something happens two ambulance two ambulances of course one for each side or something if one go one goes the other one has to come okay and then you need policemen to

    Stand at the Junctions yes auxiliary police it doesn’t matter uh atos or Cisco or you know how how is it to close a road is it easy to close the road in Singapore to close the road is easy you just need to tell LTA what you want to

    Do if there’s a bus stop how do you want to divert the bus okay okay how is it going to affect the stakeholders that is the part where oh so stakehold so I also heard stakeholders let’s just say there’s 100 businesses in this noven circuit right every hund every one of

    Those 100 has to say yes can can if they don’t if they don’t respond is that is that c a no yes so you need to get a signature from every single one if one out of the if 99 say yes and one says no

    The race doesn’t go on yes right yeah so it it I think it works like everywhere in the world as well you know but because uh spots here is not compulsory businesses are yeah so so so then how much do you think so an average race in Singapore just before the first person

    Starts pedaling how much does it $35,000 $35,000 okay so that’s the max that caps that I can give 35,000 bucks so so let’s just say you got 100 participants right that’s $350 each participant to break even yes right yep so you got 200 participant which is a huge race which

    Is four four groups of 50 people it’s still $175 right so be bear in mind that if it’s the event company that is doing it and I’m not going to mention the governmental body name is giving you this budget you have to work with that budget the event company has to mark up

    Just to cover of course yeah that’s that those those numbers are just to make a single sent yeah right yeah no wonder you just go and put some cones out do it right and the first race the the second race that we have CBP CH Chang Business Park we even diverted two

    Buses and two police cars and they were they were like huh so it was it was so out of all this it’s actually I don’t say it’s good for you but you your your status has grown right like I remember that I saw a short film about you I saw an interview with

    Red Bull about you um now you’re the Godfather as I mentioned again thank you to the the the reporter that reported us it’s a blessing in this guy so I mean I did a short film it was it was Showcase in KH film festival for a short film

    Which we get to enter but we didn’t win anything but it was an a lot uh you know it was uh it was really good because I took like what 8 to 10 days of of of of uh my nighttime just to to shoot that

    That that short film and uh Red Bull uh Austria you know interviewed me and and my technical director for for for the racing cul so uh I’m still with Red Bull now I’m still with Red Bull they still like contact contacting me and you know

    Do you do you want this do you want that what’s what’s your next event and they are being supportive I do have Canyon Canyon bike has been sponsoring me for like the last four or five years just for road bikes or they don’t really make

    Fixed SK no no they do have but it’s for you know it’s really for the red yeah no it’s for the red pack in in in Germany so they do solely for for them so uh yes I uh been few other uh sponsors as well

    So which is which is good which is good yeah so then what what now what keeps you busy now are you still are you still doing races are you planning to do more races I I’m planning to do more races I’m planning to do more races just I’m

    Waiting for uh actually Kenyon is waiting for me to draft out the venue on of the venue uh that we we are getting so uh just that I got no time to draft out you know that Turf city is now gone I remember was did you do the race in

    The go-kart arena in t c yeah I remember that I was there as well for yeah we did that uh I think in Singapore we are the first one to do uh in a go-kart race with kf1 during that period of time so we did twice first we did it in the

    Normal uh uh clockwise MH then the the second time we did in anticlockwise I remember that race was like if you’re on the front you you you’re primed because it was so hard to pass yes yes precisely so there there’s a lot of crashes uh you know but laceration and you know yeah

    Road Rash there’s nothing like anything malicious like death or broken bones and you know it it was a really good race it was uh Canyon was the the main sponsor during that period of time so we intend to do again but the The Cutting Arena sorry not kf1 yeah

    Cutting Arena cutting Arena yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so uh I tried to do one more on my own but they are not not not cutting Arena but the other the other one they are not interested so I said okay fine so yeah so you still riding

    You still uh I barely Rite now so I just no reason for that it’s just uh it’s just that the 10 people in one group doesn’t make sense uh yeah it’s a bit of a downer isn’t it yeah yeah it is it is so uh it it’s kind of stupid

    Because the government needs to know that 10 and that’s 10 makes 20 mhm when you are riding you cannot be counting 2 3 4 5 6 7 and stay way behind I was riding on Sunday and I’m there’s only four of us and we get to a traffic light

    And I look around and there’s like 15 people behind me precisely I didn’t even know that they were there so if I’m riding along and then the police pull us over what am I supposed like they are not my friends yeah I don’t know that I

    Don’t know them so how to justify I I need to have a cam every time when I ride it doesn’t make sense or do I need to take names of my friends or tell the people behind you to [ __ ] off so uh I hope that the government

    Will change this perspective a bit make it more flexible make it like 20 to 30 people in a group you know two or three two of breast or three of bre whatever so because of this which like ah [ __ ] let me just go running so you’re right

    So I see that you’re running a lot now right and run i’ I’ve picked up running quite a lot and it’s it’s easier because you just it’s 9:30 at night you know you can bash out a 5k 10:00 you go home shower y for cycling you 9:30 at night

    Okay let’s pump the tires okay I’ll ride to the start point 10: and then you can’t do a half an hour ride you ride 1 or 2 hours and then 10:00 12:00 and then you come home 1:30 and they can’t sleep because and uh now that I see a lot of

    Cyclist are all fashionistas they are not really cyclist so it’s kind of sad people who does not have that brand that they are using you can’t recycling with us because your brand doesn’t affiliate it with my team it’s kind of sad but I’m not going to mention names but I hope

    You guys are not I have no call I can come in because I know exactly what you’re saying so yeah so you so so not even fix gear you’re not not running no I I I I’m trying to write write maybe uh starting of March cuz I already got my new bike

    From Kenyon oh nice yeah so uh just waiting for maybe should M mountain biking you can go on the trails don’t have to bother anybody yeah precisely I asked for a gravel bike actually from Kenyon and so they are waiting for you get one of the double I do have that you

    Do yeah yeah yeah so I’ve fed a couple of those they’re a bit weird it’s it’s kind of scary actually yeah okay so um so you’re running a bit more um to keep fit I guess um so what next what what next for you

    Uh probably I will be uh doing uh I talk to Kenyon about doing a a holy crate holy crate is making a comeback okay the 16 installment so just wait for it guys are you doing it in Malaysia and Indonesia still or uh in Singapore so this def definitely going to be in

    Singapore just going CH V to do the um what you call accident prevention plans and all these sort of contingency plans yeah so I got uh a few commas which are uh really good that is helping out uh with me as well mhm so we are doing it

    Proper and bigger okay hopefully this year so what’s the best way to get a hold of you then you Instagram do you Tik Tok do you Facebook or do you uh friender Facebook I am not into Facebook anymore uh Tik Tok uh Instagram Zula yeah so z u l

    A yeah okay cool man I think uh I think we’ve got got through quite a lot there yeah so it’s yeah it’s quite good uh conversation with you uh Martin thank you so much for having me yeah thanks for coming by thank you yeah no worries thank you thank you

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