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22 Comments
A good DS would not and can not say anything negative about current team riders. Nor should he have said anything negative about PR. It will only fuel PR to smash the field. Good for us it will make for a great season of racing with some new rivalries!!!
Nairoman back on movistar 🙀
Sorry Chris for asking you this, but knowing your recent medical condition, I was wondering what's happening with your left eye?
Jumbo building up a lot of bad karma
They're playing dirty at Jumbo. Roglič has never said anything bad about the team, even when he had good reasons for that. It happened many times when the tactics was bad, when they left him alon on the road (Giro 2019, Tou 2022), or they gave him a bad team for support, he never ever said a bad word about the team. And for thanking him for 74 victoris that he gave them, that's what he gets in retourn.
Chris in your next “beyond the coverage” can you talk about what Primoz needs to do at Bora to build team chemistry? Who is his new Sepp Kuss? Is the Bora bench really strong enough for him to win in France? Or will the top 4 riders just follow each other around and they won’t need a bench? I’m rooting for Primoz but can’t help fee Bora is a bit green
I have my doubts on what is said at JV meeting after the anglru stage: samen winnen is a dutch term it means: winning together. bear in mind that the sport was invented in the south the Netherlands, Belgium, north of France more than 100 years ago. young farmerboys saw an opportunity to earn a living from cycling in stead of working on the fields or in factories. In the weekend races.one could earn enough prizemoney to earn a living, íf you won. and young farmerboys are blunt, tough, they'll do anything to win: cheating, selling victories, betray and using their elbows. In this sport it is still the same after 100 years. I saw it when I was bikeracing on a hobby level. Nice well educated cityguys change on a racebike. So I think Rogliç was pointed out by the team to win the Vuelta 2023, Kuss was the no1 helper and Vingo maybe too. Maybe. the whole phrase :winning together" sounds to me hypocrite. As is Zeeman. The whole world was critisizing JV team leadership, as a bunch of knuckleheads. That was the debate in the team meeting. What to do next? Ahh paint the frase "Samen winnen" on the bus. as a team you help to win 1 frontman, each and every rider wants to win, it is in the nature of the sport. But in the team you are paid well to obey orders Betting on several frontmen like in the Tom Dumoulin days did not pay of well for Dumoulin. So this reporter Dan Ostanek is sticking his head in Zeeman's ass in order to publish this non article and get more articles done in the future on bike racing otherwise he loses his job and no team will talk to him if Ostanek reveals the truth. Like Ostanek every other reporter in bikeracing are asslickers, except for Horner.. you do not reveal the truth on doping selling victories cheating, betraying your mates.
I don't think Jumbo Sport director was throwing Roglic under the bus. If you listen carefully to Roglic before and after stage interviews in Vuelta he was trying to be politically correct but his true feelings came through. His philosophy
1. I am leader of the team and everyone should be working for me. It should not be turned on its head and have me working for a domestique.
2. If the situation arises as it did we will go man on man and battle it out within the team. In Roglic's words,"the best man should win"
It seems this was the understanding as both Jonas and roglic dropped sepp kuss. After the PR disaster Jonas seemed to genuinely get it, but not Roglic. He continued to give weird interviews. Roglic is better off on a team where he is clearly the best and he can unleash his ultracompetiveness. It remains to be scene if the supporting cast is strong enough to propel Roglic
If roglic and Jonas both went to TdF for Jumbo you could have same picture of Roglic attacking Jonas. For Roglic all alliances even with the same team are temporary.
FYI Roglic was my favorite rider but I now have a more nuanced understanding of him. Professional bike racing is a team sport until its not.
Another bad take by Horner. By now it’s pretty obvious that Roglic was the only one of the three riders at the meeting who didn’t agree with the plan where Sepp wins without contest. I’m sure Kuss will confirm this when his career is over. That said, who can blame Roglic for wanting to win? He’s a top athlete, and probably already knew that he would krave the team by the end of the season.
Roglic was absolutely right to leave Jumbo-Visma. That's just my opinion. About the parcours off the TDF, Remco absolutely dislikes gravel. I remember that he told the Belgian press. He's not at all good at it. There were rumors that Pogacar could ride the Giro instead of the TDF?
Primoz will absolutely get obliterated next tdf. Primoz this year in his best form couldn’t even hold the wheel of Almeida and 37 year old G. He won’t make top 3 of the tdf, not even top 5, most likely he will crash out like he always does. He had one chance to win the tdf and he fumbled it, and he will get trashed.
You should listen to Jonas interviews. He said during the Vuelta to Danish TV that he multiple times told the team and Kuss that they shouldn’t race for it. And that was in the beginning of the 3rd week.
it would be epic that Roglič wins TdF
Happy Birthday Primoz and have a great 2024, from Sydney, Aust.
I have always disliked Zeeman. He also was always really negative about Dumoulin. Nasty guy, but he is a very good manager.
https://youtu.be/DkV5TfVMz40?si=K8C2CO0eIRI-wuDm
I might be biased, but after stage 16, and stage 17, i got to same conclusion, that Jonas was first not playing teamgame for Kuss. This interview from Zeman is dirty, totally disrespectful towards Primoz. It was simply stupid. Seems that spliting wasn't friendly. Primoz will be in beast mode.
Will Kuss be at the Tour?
What about the time years ago when another rider broke his bike and I saw a video of you out of the saddle and him sitting on your seat. quite an exhibition
Primos can't keep a bicycle upright and thats why he will never win the Tour de France
Well said – I dislike Jonas Vingegard with a passion
Zeeman just repeats what Roglic said himself already during the Vuelta after "the talk": I have my own ideas. How is Zeeman throwing Roglic under the bus by repeating Roglic own statement? He may have a strategic point in repeating that fact, but it's no news. Roglic (understandably) wanted to race for the win before and after stage 13 as well as after Angliru. But he accepted racing for Kuss against his will – saying so openly.