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Why doesn’t anybody cycle to the hardware store in Canada? In this collab with Shifter, we take the basketball game of “plus 1 minus 2” and bring it to urban cycling, as a way of comparing a similar ride between cities.
Unsurprisingly, it sucks to cycle to a suburban hardware store in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. But how much does it suck? And how does cycling to the suburbs compare between Calgary and Amsterdam?
This video was a collab with @Shifter_Cycling . You can watch how he scored these two rides here: https://youtu.be/iFMhiwtBfAU
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:05 Plus 1 Minus 2 Explained
0:42 Loading the game
1:01 Amsterdam ride
12:18 Why you should want this
13:00 Calgary ride
21:40 Final results
22:29 Patreon shout-out
22:39 Outro
37 Comments
Dutchies: the moped (blue-plate snortfiets) at 3:44 should NOT be in the fietspad. I am correct about this!
Snorfietsen have been banned from the fietspaden in the centre of Amsterdam for over two years now: https://www.amsterdam.nl/snorfiets-rijbaan/kaart-snorfietsers/
Please stop emailing me about this! 😂 The rules are different in Amsterdam than where you're from!
I agree that bicycles should get their own dedicated and separated and protected lanes and routes….and also…gtf off the roads, lol. and running stop signs and red lights and what not.
Also I am assuming you played this game with a Toronto cyclist…but couldn't post the video because he was probably hit by a garbage truck.
I'm interested how Cambridge, MA would fare in this challenge. I'm a driver primarily so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but it has the most bicycle infrastructure I've seen in an American city. In the last four years they've built so many bicycle lights, separated bicycle paths, safe bicycle parking, etc.
Those were not mopeds, that were scooters.
A mo-peds have ped-als, which these clearly lack.
Also why are the "casual" cyclists not wearing helmets?
Meanwhile that hardware store in Calgary is within walking distance of an LRT stop
Calgary has extensive bike paths, yet you chose not to use it for most of your trip. Plus Calgary is adding bike lanes. I can easily go from the far East side of Calgary to downtown mostly on these paths, and be inside parklands for the majority of the route away from cars. I could continue to another side of the city and be in parks the majority of the time. It seems you were being deliberately misleading choosing a terrible route
My only problem with AMsterdam is the significant lack of helmet-wearing.
oml, why does calgary have so much more infrastructure than where i live?!
Everytime I go to that commercial area I stop by the chicken truck. The owner calls everyone brother and is the nicest guy. Best chicken sandwich in the city 💯
The -2 on motorcycles in Calgary was funny. It wasn't even a, comparatively, loud motorcycle and it was only 1 or 2 of them. Basically in my bottom-10 for loud motorcycles. But then, I live in the states where some residential areas have noise ordinances for people like that.
Amsterdam is such a beautiful city, it seems to be the perfect city
Does the man holding his fist behind him mean something?
Another reason to mock caLgary being from edmonton
Even that is great compared to us
amsterdam is a dream city
Score: How far do you want to go down?
Calgary: Yes.
17:14 In Calgary, yep
Hard and easy modes
This channel should be road engineering mandatory 101 course. All over the world.
you were really harsh, at the 8 minute mark, you should have racked up 100 points lol
No need to worry in Calgary about suburban narrow sidewalks – there are almost no pedestrians anyway 😁
As a cyclist in the West Midlands, England, I am truly envious of both cities. There is nothing, zero, nil inferstructure anything like those 2 cities. Almist all cycling here connoisseurs with pedestrians on wholly inadequate pavements (which I avoid) or has to ve done through heavy traffic. If the Canadian city got that minus score, my city would be minus 10s of thousands!
Hi, American here.
I'm the suburban trash that most people mock who has a bike & ebike and I do my trash-based-shopping via my ebike mostly which has panier bags & a motorcycle trunk. I can pack a lot of stuff in my bags including general groceries and a few frozen pizzas.
But I'm fully aware that I'm the problem with my tiny-ebike usually on shoulders of major roads or side walks (if there isn't over grown bushes or parked SUVs taking over most of them) and that I need to do my duty as an american to upgrade to a 1+ton car to do basic stuff and spend more money on insurance maintenance and gas. We also have very few bike lanes- as in there's NO bikelanes outside of leisure/the big park around here. So if you bike you either have the street, shoulder or sidewalk. And when I was doing 28MPH on my ebike someone flew by me into ONCOMING TRAFFIC at 30MPH zone at probably 50+ …racing toward a red light.
I apologize for taking up the road for single people in giant SUVs who clearly are a superior breed and don't need to slow down for bad weather or signal for turns.
If there isn't enough sarcasm here, I can just scream sarcasm down here- please more bike infrastructure and less SUVs for scared, single person passengers who don't know how a turn signal works in the suburbs.
Re-watching this video, I see that Almost make the same journey during my 2 days in Amsterdam, buying a bike ring bell as a souvenir at the bike rent at the beginning
In Sao Paulo city in Brazil would be -300 depending where you are and the way to the destination…
That’s-
1:35 I don't like this sort of nagging way of talking abt ppl, it is possible to have many ways of limited mobility, people should be allowed to use them if it is fine, even though lying-down bicycles etc are better if possible
When I bicycled to and from work here in the U. S. between the city and suburbs I would utilize side and neighborhood streets as much as possible even if it lengthened the journey because they had little to no traffic. I also wore novelty sunglasses which had a glazed mirror surface along the outer corner of each lens and acted as my rear view mirrors. I believe this is why I am alive and safe today.
Expensive (pedestrian crossing bridge), clunky, disorganized, chaotic, and dangerous.
Gotta love horribly designed infrastructure.
Do Canadian motorists go on about the mythical road tax like in the UK?
I live out in Cedar Rapids Iowa and there's a nature trail that is primarily used by cyclist and people walking/jogging that cuts right through the center of town and goes for like 50 miles. Cities like Hiawatha have spent a lot of time updating their intersections and paths which is super nice. It's better laid out and managed up north towards Robins and gets a lot jankier heading south out of Hiawatha. Our downtown roads on busy streets are also getting worked on a lot recently. It's not perfect at all, but there's a lot of positives. There's been constant roadwork for like the last 5 years all throughout the area.
How safe is the Calgary ride during winter?
I look forward to visiting Amsterdam & The Netherlands 🇳🇱 later this year.
Calgary is the heaven, you wouldn't like to ride in my city, lmao.
I get that Calgary is not nearly as good as Amsterdam for cycling, but way too many points were being deducted for the initial part of the ride. I was actually surprised at how many protected bike lanes there were at the start. They should get credit for doing something right.
Ironically Calgary is leagues ahead of almost any city I've been to in the USA.
Great!
I will play this in Frankfurt am Main.
Germany is much closer to North Amerika as it might look like.
Bikes are for Children or Cyclists, to by some bio veggies at the Market the prefered option is the newest Hybrid-SUV.