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In todays episode we fit Shimano Ultegra 11 speed to my Cannondale which was previously running on 105, then I take you on board the bike to give you my thoughts…
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38 Comments
The fit of the bike is everything. You made a wise decision to upgrade the parts on a frame that you know fits you well. Better than buying a fancier, more modern bike that might not fit you.
Top tip – swap over the barrel adjuster from your old 105 rear derailleur. Those Ultegra adjusters are flimsy and renowned for breaking. I made this change.
I much prefer the shifting on my Tiagra 4700 to Ultegra 11 8000. Think its partly to do with the initial slack you mention and you can just feel it changing better with a smoother action on the 9 and 10 speed rather than a short pronounced click feel with the Ultegra (which i'm sure some prefer).
recently upgraded same frame with 8070 Di2 groupset – quite a challenge with routing cables through seatpost, yet possible.
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Handlebar width would have more to do with the bones and joints in the shoulders and wrists than the width of the shoulders. The same with the cranks, it's what the hip joint can handle rather than the leg length. If the most important thing is how it looks you'd put up with any torture.
I bought my 2016 Synapse around the same time you bought yours. Mine was hardly used – it looks showroom condition. Carbon wheels, disc brakes, Ultegra 11 speed, weighs less than 8kg. It was about £1000. So a bit more upfront cost but a lot of bike for the money and hopefully no major work or upgrades needed. Wish I was based near you guys as I love the work you do. Thanks for a great channel.
Two of my bicycles a Colnago Arte and a Scott speedster have complete 10 speed 6600 Ultegra one of them the Scott has the 6603 triple Ultegra Chainset on it. I know it will be considered old school now but it works beautifully and is very reliable and smooth.
I was at my local bike shop a while back and a customer had brought it his bike in to have his 11 speed Di2 Ultegra upgraded to 12 Speed Di2 Ultegra. Expensive upgrade just for one extra ratio
Hi Lee & Simon 👋. Great video of conversion and test ride review. Top work. I do believe shorter crank lengths and less wide handlebars would suit many riders….."standard sized" frames and components are arguably a tad on the large size for most folks? The upgrade shown is relatively expensive, but I'm certain it is very much worth the comfort it brings……comfort = more speed & more distance, that's got to be a good thing? Have a great weekend guys! 🍻
I ride a mint 2003 Klein Q Pro, kitted out with a very bling Campy Centaur/Record 10 speed groupset, 50/34 to a 11/28. It's freakin' beautiful. I'm fit, but heavy at 5'10", 220lbs( years aof weight training and paddling), and live in a pretty hilly area. Slowly over the last few years I've been putting together a R8000 groupset, which I now have all of the components to have a 50/34 to a 11/34. I'm not racing, I mainly want to be able to go uphill easier, for longer. BUT, my vanity holds me back( I know, I know…) Will the R8000 Be as "bling" as the Campy stuff? Will the ease of climbing offset the "wow" factor of the bike as it is now? Once I invest in the swap, will I have buyers remorse and want to swap back? Are these the best kind of problems to have? HA! Love the channel and would love your thoughts. Thanks!
I have a trek Domane that came with 105 and an out of group crankset. Over the past 6 years I have changed out the rear cluster to 10 speed Ultegra and added an ultegra chain, replace the crankset with a new 105 set, and put on some carbon bars. With some 1350 g carbon wheels I now have a 16.5 pound quiet and smooth riding road machine. The decoupler on the back matches well with the carbon bars to dramatically reduce road chatter, the front and rear derailleurs are smooth and crisp, and the brakes strong and quiet. Very happy with the hybrid for a light quick bike at low price.
I upgraded my road bike from 11 speed Ultegra to 12 speed 105 Di2, and I honestly can't tell any difference in terms of gear jumps. Obviously the jump to electronic shifting from mechanical (and hydraulic brakes from mechanical disk brakes) was a big change, though. I'm currently using the old Ultegra derailleur along with Sensah Team Pro shifters on my commuter bicycle, and the mechanical shifting is still nice and precise. Shimano 11 speed mechanical really is great.
still riding 9 speed
Great video – out of curiosity, was the Ultegra groupset new or secondhand/refurb?
I've just bought an Orbea with the new 105 12 speed groupset, and although its superb as you would expect, I still love riding my Tiagra 10 speed bike, it's such a reliable groupset.
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10 speed is more meaty and durable compared to 11 speed and 12 speed is even more flimsy. Narrow thin chain and cogs weigh less
Nice upgrade
Love the care and patience you put into bikes
You certainly know how to take bikes apart and put them back together using the right tools (in less than 10 mins you were done!) Wow! Thanks for the video!
Excellent upgradeable video,the Ultegra chainset looks really good paired with the dérailleurs and brakes.Very nice Schwalbe slicks you're using,are they 28c?
How did you get and 11 speed cassette to fit on a 10 speed hub?. I thought you could only do that if you use the 11 to 34 cassette . You said you went to a 11 to 28 .
Those Cannondale stock wheelsets are pretty considerably lower end than the frames. Big aero and weight savings to be had.
Your work bench's tool wall is the most staged poser one thatI have ever seen. 🙄
I still run Sram Red first generation 10 speed mechanical on my road bike. It’s absolutely fine and still works perfectly after all these years.
Unused pads on that old 105?
Lo único que pudo haber hecho, es poner la HG 700 de 11-34, para ahorrarse la maza o hub.
Did a bit of a mullet recently, tiagra shifters whit a full grx convertion for the rest of the trans… Lower gearing ( 46-30 on the cranks) whit higher range on the new cassette (from 12-28 to 11-36) because i'm not that strong of a rider nor do i care for top speed or pr's or watts… So far is a great upgrade coming from the regular tiagra, suits me better and the hills are a Lot easier, the shifting is very good after dialing the cable tension (plus, the old tiagra rear mech was really tired and rattled a lot, did the job fine but it was on it's last legs).
The lower gearing and increased range is just amazing, now i can actually use the higher gears outside going down crazy hills and can sustain a better pace for way longer, looking forward for my first +100k ride.
I still run 10 speed on my 2 road bikes and 11 speed on my CX bike.
Feel no difference.10 speed was already perfect for me as i live in the flatlands of northern Europe and climbs are rare.
It’s not the number of cogs.
You need gearing that fits your cadence without significant jumps
v10 vs v11 spd,
Great video as always and very informative, thank you for taking the time to edit it and share your passion. The devil is in the detail and I am sure that you know this already. Keep up the great work.
You reduced the gear range. 50/34 swap up front. 11-30 to 11-28 at the back. You increased the number of available gear ratios, not range.
If you were blindfolded you wouldn’t really know the difference in my opinion. The 105 was nails I had on my Emonda and probably gave me less problems ham my SRAM Red etap, Di2, force and dura ace I’ve owned
Updates to the group set and a vlog! Love it. Thanks Lee. What a beautiful day for a bike ride!
Just goes to show, you really need to know your body when it comes to modifying your bike.
And what is the benefit?
I have a bike with 10 speed DA 7900, another with 10 speed Red 2012, and 3 others with DA 9000 11 speed, Ultegra 6800 11 speed and Red 22 11 speed. Four of them are fitted with a 11-25T cassette, the 6800 bike has a 11-28T cassette. The only difference i notice between 10 v 11 speed is the extra gear in the middle of the cassette on flat roads.
Sorry to came late to the party, recently I got a caad10 frame. Good bike although the bottom bracket make my head blow off, however the way you use this shimano cups adapter is a brilliant idea, could you please share which one are those , so I could buy with blinded eyes, thank you very much. Last suggested would be interesting to see a Cannondale guildness: bb compatibility, headseat solutions, tricks for cable guidness, would be Super 🎉