talkSPORT’s Jim White and Simon Jordan debate if Newcastle United need to break the cycle of investment to be successful and win silverware.
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"they love the experience of traveling" – well yea they need every excuse to get out of Newcastle 😂
Newcastle will never win anything as long as Eddie Howe is managing them. Fact!
Masters and his crooked pals need to be sacked and put someone who understands football and the environment it operates in in charge of it.. 5 days after Newcastle were bought they bring in these new rule's to basically stop Newcastle becoming a big player that would brake apart the cartel that runs the league…
PSR makes no sense when you sell two players for £70m in June but can then put a bid in for £70m for Guehi two months later. It's just a paper exercise – there's no difference in keeping those two players and not putting a bid in for Guehi, it's the same financial position.
Hahaha…
EXCUSES EXCUSES for British managers… Let m tell you, Simon, it plain simple… Eddie Howe is not as good as you think…
The rules is not fair
The only way we can actually spend now is to sell our best players to the teams we are trying to compete with. It's rigged.
They need to buy a RW and RCB. Then they'll be back on track.
This season, they're mostly struggling with finishing their chances.
Sack him
Now
Ahahah him covering his back after saying "certainly the away fans are" made me laugh like heath ledger's joker
newcastles trophy cabinet is actually not as good as tottenham, which is embarassing
Disgusting behaviour holding teams back . Unlawful they think there cleverly the premier league its a dam disgrace
No excuse, Villa have had the same problems and they still achieved champions league while playing in Europe
Why not talk about yge Littlewoods family pumping money into Liverpool or Sky into Man U to boost their finances?
Lets ignore it and call it cheating now.
Unfortunately I believe Eddie Howe will not see the season out. Despite the media face of the owners they will be ruthless and expect a return for the millions invested in the club. Minimum return would be european football for them and was not acheived last season and looking a step too far this season.
At last Talk sport!! Nice one Simon!!!!!!
The likes of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal earned the positions they are in by having a number of periods of sustained success, which resulted in them garnering a worldwide fanbase. There is nothing stopping other clubs from doing the same. The problem is that they and their fans have no patience and they want success and they want it now i.e. without all the time and effort put into achieving those things as was done by the three clubs I mentioned.
THE PIF COMING INTO NEWCASTLE SHOULD HAVE OPENED EVERYONES EYES THAT THE RULE IN PLACE ARE NOT FOR SUSTAINABILITY, THEY'RE THERE TO KEEP THE "BIG 6" AT THE TOP AND TO HOLD THE REST OF THE LEAGUE BACK!!!
THE PIF HAVE MORE MONEY THEN THE ENTIRE ENGLISH FOOTBALL PYRAMID COMBINED… JUST LET THAT SINK IN… AND NEWCASTLE HAD TO SELL TWO YOUNG TALENTS TO AVOID A POINTS DEDUCTION! MADNESS
NEWCASTLE SHOULDNT BE ALOUD TO SPEND MORE THEN ANYONE ELSE BUT NEITHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE BE ALOUD TO SPEND MORE THEN NEWCASTLE! ITS ANTI-COMPETITIVE!
There just gutted they cannot buy the title.
Sorry but what history do Newcastle have? Wasn’t their last trophy in the 50’s?
When those rules were brought in the cartel clubs had the squads worth millions to start with, sponsorship deals etc, so how was that fair? Its like starting a race a length behind.
FFP was brought in for one reason and one reason only to protect the red cartel and ensure that Newcastle or any other club will never get the chance to invest in their clubs.
Simon was spot on (something I didn't think I'd ever say in all honesty). Not only that, the club is being forced to sell impact players to stay within the rules.
FFP/PSR has nothing to do with sustainability other then sustaining the status quo.
What if everybody just spends what they want and takes the points hit, then we are back to square one , simples
Shove the trophies where the sun don’t shine… Newcastle v Juventus make it happen
They should have followed the 'Villa model' …..UTV 😊
can't win something with their hands tied with ffp psr and apt rules
It’s not just that Newcastle have to get a top 4 challenging team together but a new club challenging the traditional elite have to be able to spend enough money in 4 transfer windows (2 years) otherwise the good players they sign in transfer windows 1 & 2 will be off to new clubs in transfer windows 5&6 due to being courted by other teams. Chelsea has spent 1300 million in 2 and a bit years apparently to put together a young exciting squad of almost 2 teams and that’s from a team who were already established in the top group. Unless a club is allowed to buy top quality players they just won’t compete consistently it’s as simple as that.
"Anti competitive" = corrupt
Ffp psr have held every club back outside the top 6
We will never bridge the gap. But we are miles off it this season. We simply aren't goid enough
No team can catch the top 6 now.
He says the FFP rules are anti competitive but if clubs were allowed to spend whatever they choose how could anyone compete with Newcastle. Within 5 to 10 yrs they would buy all the best players as they could pay the most and no one else could compete on a level playing field. It’s what the rules were brought in for!
I agree with Simon.
Let Newcastle invest in the club.
FFP is stifling provincial teams like Villa & Newcastle. Others have benefitted massively from investment, no less Chelsea and City, and if there is to be a fair quality to the EPL, then the rules must change.
Newcastle can't offload yesteryear's players quick enough but new players need bigger money, as that is how football has been going for years. A 15M player being paid £10k a week is now a £40M getting 80k a week. How can you improve without proper investment?
We could go out and buy anyone and take the deduction in points but the players that will come will be for high wages only like robinho for man city and at the minute we've been successful because players are playing for the badge.
We havnt got a manager like Bobby anymore were Kluivert signed for us just because of him.
But I do think after howe we will have mourinho in charge continuing Bobby's legacy
People seem to think only newcastle will benefit from changes to psr, plenty of teams want to spend
Jose Mouriho to Newcastle could be the recruitment that can change the history of the club.
How do we have to win something? On what? Definitely not on the squad we have. It’s bang average. We haven’t been backed back to back windows. We have weakened the squad that already wasn’t good enough. FFP is horrendous just stops anyone being able to have a go
You have to caveat that say he spent a decent amount of money with their starting squad value was hundreds of millions of pounds smaller than their competitors & have spent at a similar level to others post take over but nowhere near that over the last 15 years
PSR is in place for one reason and one reason only: To protect the positions of the big clubs. The fact that PSR penalties are anything other than financial is proof of that. Points deductions for spending too much? Seriously? Newcastle's owners being wealthier than Fenway Sports Group or Ineos yet aren't allowed to spend is a joke. Football needs to look at American models such as either MLB where there's luxury taxes and revenue sharing, or to the other extreme, the NHL where there's a hard salary cap AND a minimum spend requirement. Football is a little too clever for its own good with some of these things.
That’s why the Red Cartel had it brought in. They will try everything possible to stop another team challenging them. You only have to see at what is happening to Man City the Red Cartel and their puppet ,Masters trying their hardest to discredit everything they have accomplished. The premier league is rotten to the core and it’s about time the rest of the league to wake up to the self serving Red Cartel.
Unless they change the rules the premier league will stagnate it’s already happening. Letting villa and Newcastle go will light the league on fire
No ** Sherlock!
Can't disagree about City running afoul of FFP but fairly certain Chelsea have made more from just player sales via the academy over the past 10 years than Villa and Newcastle have generated combined. Villa to their credit are following this model in producing some fantastic young talent, meanwhile Newcastle are signing Chelsea academy players, to then complain about Chelsea being able to spend more 😅😅
FFP is a restriction of trade and hampers any club wanting to progress…it's also benefited the big 6 and makes the league even less competitive
Newcastle being a threat to the top 4 lasted long
Everything Simon Jordon just said was 100% correct – glad it is being said.