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00:00 – Intro
02:15 – Hysata
06:03 – Hydrogen Lightning Round
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What are the environmental risks of leaking H2 into our atmosphere?
What happens to that molecule?
The use of surplus power to make it seems sensible if the only downside is loss. A big percentage of electricity is lost in transmission.
Why not just use Hydrogen Nuclear solid mass batteries in an industrial setting. A lot safer in a power plant emergency and requires less infrastructure to physically build.
The fact remains….. hydrogen is not an energy source (unless we are talking about fusion), it's an energy storage medium for human usage. So it is better to compare it to a battery or other energy storage medium.
H2 can be made from water with a high temp reacter but fear stops progress.
None of this matters if you can't build a cost effective transportation network, which afaik is the hardest part
Hydrogen as fuel will only fall into irrelevance if the ultra-wealthy cannot make a high profit margin off of it.
We are all slaves to a Pharaoh, building Green Pyramids to Mars.Cheap oil makes world peace and free'er people.
reading the comment section, i kinda agree to some but not all… in the next 20years, H2 might be the best addition to the lithium battery, small vehicle are still better with battery, but larger vehicle, building n so on, might better use H2, due to the weight to power ratio. i argue, the technology we had for H2 are still very early on.. the electrolyzer for example, who could have thought, it can be done this way? the same would be for all other aspect of H2, i am very confident, in years to come, we will see tons of other unthinkable innovation that would solve many of the issue in using H2 in commercial sector.
What about geothermal as the source?
Why hydrogen when renewable methane is a much better option? It's safer, cheaper, easier to store and is a carbon netrual drop in replacement for natural gas.
The next break through is to stabilize hydrogen as methane in mass. Then she'll has its feed stock for all its Malaysian refineries
Leave hydrogen alone. This is the petroleum industry trying to make business case for extending there rules as the premier fuel, which would be economically not feasible.
Oh hydrogen it's not a fuel, it's a battery. Until we find hydrogen wells at the same size as oil, it's not. a. fuel. You have to manufacture it, in a civilization that's basically underpinned by fossil fuels.
In other words, niche applications for niche users by niche makers.
we should never be opting to abandon fossil fuels….. Taking a waste H2S rich gas and making it into useful clean hydrogen and sulfur, that is exactly what we want to do. We shouldn't opt to quit extracting… that would be ignorant to the entire process.. making more use of what is extracted and making less waste should be the the forward goal, increasing efficiency. Everything we do is chemistry, whether its solar cells or hydrogen electrolysis, the petroleum industry provides us with the vast amount of materials necessary to conduct research and create better materials, they make up the bedrock of all our 'greener' technologies and materials. None of it could be done without petroleum products
What about Biotech ways to produce Hydrogen?
nothing discussed in this video addresses the problem of hydrogen. the issue with hydrogen is not making hydrogen sustainably, that is very easy to do, rather it is also very pointless to do because the problem of hydrogen is storage. hydrogen is not an energy solution, it is a storage solution. so as a stationary battery it need to be better than say pumping water up to a dam to serve as emergency power for example, or even molten salt driven turbine. and for mobile battery solution, it need to be dense enough that it does not eat into usable cargo space. so the problem with hydrogen is there are very limited use case where hydrogen will be better than the alternative. and if it is not better than the alternative, why use hydrogen? the issue is never with actually using hydrogen, we have been doing so for decade since the apollo space program, the issue has always been the difficulty of finding a use case which it is not inferior to other method of energy storage and transportation. it may sound silly, but aircraft might be a platform that hydrogen could potentially excel in.
This whole thing is missing the way each nation's supply chain and (lack of) infrastructure has to handle hydrogen. Not everything is about Europe or USA.
I hope i live long enough to see a hydrogen plant get powered by solar, wind, waves and store excess energy in sea salt batteries.
SunHydrogen and Honda are investigating a location for their pilot plant in Hawaii
I have read about a company in the uk called powerhouse energy. They want to produce hydrogen from unrecyclable plastics and other things. It would be interesting to see if that is actually a good alternative as the uk has started to increase burn the amount of waste it burns recently
I'd say we're 5 to 10 years too early for Hydrogen to be viable for energy use.
Hydrogen production by electricity is inefficient and I do not believe presented figures are realistic in mass production. Losses for compression/decompression and losses in storage, embrittlement of metals, danger of explosion. Much to expensive. No future for Hydrogen.
Let’s see-all you need is water and electricity, both in limited supply, to make a alternate power source!
Remember that BREAKTHROUGH you covered last time, and the last time, and the time before that. If your channel was to be believed, we should be in an absolute utopia by now
Show me where you can get enough platinum and iridium to make the fuel cells for an entire planets needs.
On a visit to Iceland I passed a huge factory just south of Reykjavík. This turns out to be an American owned aluminum smelting plant. They use geothermal energy to make this process cost effective. Can you get my point? Energy is almost free to separate and squash the hydrogen. You then employ Scottish deep water pipeline engineers as they have the skills required, they can pump this liquid to the north of Scotland and boom (not a good descriptive word) you have revenue coming into Scotland they desperately need. Jobs created and suddenly the uk is the new Saudi……. Oh, and once you’ve set this up. That’s clean energy fixed for mankind, for ever!!!!
Wait until you need to refill the tank in the middle of a long trip
What you point at it's production, with fossil fuel ( it has nothing to do with fossils! ) applies to the electric cars as well…and "everybody" with an E.V. is running around saying how "green" they travel, not to mention the pollution caused in it's construction, involving some of the worst mining methods ..i keep hearing about new revolutionary batteries that never come to fruition, maybe someone gets a breakthrough in the near future.
To think that Nikola Tesla might have solved our energy problem a century ago and greed made it go away.
Hydrogen economy makes no sense. There’s always loss and lost hydrogen goes into space. 😅ver hundreds of years we’d be screwed.
Why store it when you can make it on demand using water??
Unless solid hydrogen becomes the vast majority of hydrogen used for energy, I don't believe this is going to solve anything. Like it's said in the video, the energy density vs volume is way too low to be a useful replacement for petroleum products. And production of hydrogen will always give less energy than it takes to produce , and you need to compress, store and ship the gas once it's produced. It's always going to have a negative output compared to the input.
I think it will never happen globally, It's just way to expensive to make and cost way to much energy to create it.
Solving "hydrogen storage" is only solving the tiniest bit of the problem.
100% efficient electrolysis is still only 50% efficient as the oxygen is largely a waste product and to sell it you're literally competing with air and membrane concentraters.
Is the amount of energy lost transporting power over grid over distance part of the equation comparing green hydrogen to electric? And is the energy needed to pump up, transport and refine fuel part of the equation comparing electric to traditional cars? There are many people advocating for different things, but I always seem to miss a complete analysis varying in everything. There are people expressing the variable of actually having to mine resources for batteries who in turn will eventually end up as waste, and h2 you have to create with energy, and turning that back into energy is relatively inefficient, but it would be very nice to see a true analysis of everything involved to get a clear picture of cost, logistics etc.
I live in Aus and didn't know most of what you reported. You do a great job.
Our priority for green hydrogen is making the production of industrial hydrogen greener.
Was going to unsub, but then you said "spark a hydrogen boom" so I'll be here next week.
Have you ever covered solar updraft towers? Those would be bad ass.