In this episode Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen recap the 2024 Tour de France.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Intro
00:01:22 – Stages recap
00:03:40 – Favorite and least favorite stages
00:10:00 – Breakaways & is UAE greedy?
00:15:12 – Final classification
00:16:58 – General classification discussion & poor team performances
00:21:20 – UAE Team Emirates
00:26:55 – Points classification
00:34:40 – KOM jersey
00:36:25 – Super combativity
00:38:16 – Breakthrough riders
00:40:40 – Outlook for next year
00:45:15 – Climbing record after climbing record: what’s going on?
00:56:06 – Rating this year’s Tour de France
00:59:19 – Next year’s Netflix season topics
01:02:35 – Remco Evenepoel
01:04:08 – Outro
34 Comments
We're lucky that Pogi actually likes to race. Imagine someone as talented as him who was conservative.
If Jonas hadn't hurt himself and was fully fit and didn't fade in the last week, then this tour probably would've been a banged for the GC.
It seems that Jonas needs to get stronger in the 10-30second sprints/burst to minimze the damage from Pogi kicks/attacks. Not sure how much opportunity there is for that without putting on some weight.
Great recap guys! Find someone who looks at you like Patrick looks at Adam Yates! 😅
Two words… metabolic modulators 🤷🏾♂
It is admirable the two of you addressed and questioned the huge increase in watts. Nobody else in the industry will talk about it on air. They avoid the topic or talk about nutrition, bike technology, training, etc. You handled it well… we don't know. Just my two cents… yes, a number of riders showed improvement. Yet, only one was able to explode at the top of long climbs and appeared fresh at the finish as well.
I don't understand how knowledge of Pogacar pushing 7w/kg for 40 minutes can help anyone how to drop him xD Power data from races doesn't reveal any sensitive info imo. Training data is something else and it can be helpfull, so here I fully understand why teams don't want to share the data.
Jaser Philipsen was relegated on stage 6 for an irregular sprint i.e deviating from his line. Which I agree with, however Cavendish on stage 5 shouldered a couple of riders almost causing a crash then went from one side of the road to the other, to have a part in Mads Pedersen's crash. My question is, why wasn't he relegated for an irregular sprint?
I noticed Pogi wasn't riding at the front of the race as much this year… He was getting a lot of relief and tow compared years gone by
I remember Patrick saying Jonas would put 2-3 minutes into Pogi on stage 15 to Plateau de Beille, and then Pogi put up the two best climbing performances of all time within a 5 day span.
Thanks for the coverage guys, always brilliant to hear your analysis. In terms of performances this year it feels like something has changed. Not an accusation against anyone but the top three all made significant gains that seem like outliers. Remco was getting dropped a few weeks ago in Dauphine, Jonas was severely injured 3 months ago and un-raced. Pog genuinely looked like he could have gone harder. Not sure what the breakthrough is and it could be legal/ natural but something has clearly shifted.
Big big num🐝s!!!
Netflix could do a whole episode on Campenaerts, just give him the microphone…
id love to watch the Banyuwangi tour having just done the climb up Mount Ijen myself….rampas inhumanas indeed!
Phenomenal!
I hope, looking back in 10 years, this tour won't be historic and memorable because it was the beggining of near decade long period Armstrong-esque Pogacar domination.
I agree 2022 and 2023 was epic Tours… Team UAE makes the tour borring
Thank you for the coverage. Great mix of humour and analysis and I love the short recaps on the main channel too. Can’t wait to see what happens at the vuelta this year.
The takeaway from this tour is that Benji needs to mature a bit… And be less biased too.
Power files are just XML or something aren't they, these can be pretty easily be manipulated so publishing those won't solve anything. You also run the risk of everybody suddenly switching to Shimano power meters 😉
Is this podcast all about discussing Visma and Ineos tactics?🤔
pat wasn't saying jumbo were greedy when they took 7 stages. disappointing to hear him have this take. especially when it's not uae hard pacing every day to close the break, other teams were setting the pace and you cant expect pog to gift stages and watching him do that would suck. every rider should be giving 100% to win. that makes the best racing and if it means 1 rider wins 6 stages boohoo the other riders need to find a way to win.
This tour, in the context of the last 4 years, roglic 2020/21, remcos first appearance and the battle of the two favourites 4 years in a row, the uncertainty before and up too week 3, this is the best you're gonna get even if it wasn't that close in the end. Same as last year.
The last 5 years, easy 9/10 combined
7 out of 10 ??? Wow. Tough crowd. Could've done without the 1 boring sprint stage where they hardly raced & the TT's – but otherwise enjoyed the racing each day.
Link to the German documentary of the chinese swimmers doping scandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3VOGBOk9IE&list=PLzvFVztIETWDKCmLNK8h-NndN6j-Qa2GW
An idea to make the recaps and stages more interesting: Recap your predictions from the begining of the tour.
Boring tour
Re: discussion about GC consolidation around 17:15 , UAE did absolutely nothing new this year. 2021 is the only year in the past 10 that had 10 different teams in the top 10. And this isn’t just super teams that get multiple top 10 riders: Movistar had 2 riders in 2015 and 3 in 2019, though obviously they were a much better team than they are now.
Chapeau gentlemen! Appreciate all the coverage and analysis. Your podcasts add valuable insight to race strategy, and cycling news that is difficult to locate in the US.
I’m totally fine with Carapaz winning combativity. I disagree with Patrick’s take on the point of the prize. Combativity should go to riders who are both aggressive and successful. Exposure breakaways will happen regardless of combativity existing. But maybe if combativity were a slightly more illustrious prize given to riders who are both aggressive and successful, we would more good riders attacking great riders and making the race interesting. But even if you don’t agree with that, without Abrahamsen the first week would’ve been just as entertaining. But without Carapaz, the last week would have been significantly more boring.
Great coverage guys, as always
The relegation was the only thing that kept jasper out of another green jersey.
Hugo hole complains about teams being greedy but literally represents Israel “a country” that steals land every year…. tell me more about greed buddy
Thanks for the recommendation for that ARD documentary on Doping at the Olympics, really good watch
Aero, big tyres, fuelling, training, heat acclimatisation, team pacing strategies etc, all getting them to the base of the climbs in much better shape to hit their fresh threshold numbers. The gc teams are so much deeper in strength than they ever were.