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The Tour de France hits the mountains and we check out some of the bike and tech choices of the pros, whilst some insane climbing performances has everyone wondering how this is even possible.
The Van Rysel RCR is reviewed, Coros delay their entry into the road bike cycling computer market, and we discuss the potential downsides to raising your FTP.
Chapters
00:00 intro
00:29 Hot Tour de France Tech
05:21 7w/kg Climbing Performance
15:29 Carbon Monoxide Training
23:17 The Move Podcast
28:01 Benji Fights Sean Kelly
36:43 Van Rysel RCR Review
48:07 Corps Delay Bike Computer
54:10 Is FTP Gain Worth The Sacrifice
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40 Comments
As much as I like him😮, after all the cycle doping over the last 50 years its too hard to think Pogacar isnt drugged up. Within 10 years new tests might show this. In the meantime Im pretty doubtful, which is a consquence of Lance et al.
What kind of fuel do top fuelers use? Let’s not kid ourselves here, guys.
Wiggins looked like a grumpy 16 yr old? You 2 look and sound like 2 bullied 16 yr Olds talking out of hearing distance of the football players. You are the reason cycling in the US is looked down on. 2 little dudes, feminine, soft, talking tough. If your wife or gf was threatened all you could do is say, cooperate honey, do what they say. Typical
Dam did I just hear Jesse is doing Amy's Gran Fondo? Do you think it'd be easier or harder to qualify considering the popularity of it this year (since the world championships will also be hosted in Victoria)?
My riding peak was during the Lance years. Today, it feels just like 'Lance' redux. It will always be the same. Enjoy your illusions.
The top cyclists possibly aren't breaking the rules but they are stretching the s**t out of them….🤣
Motto for success, always stay one step ahead of the testers…always been the way.
Tech, knowlege and nutrition has been matured for years now so why the outstanding performance this year.
Great episode boys!
Chris, you've been much more pleasant to listen to ever since you stopped being a weight weenie.
If something is to good to be true,,,,, Go figure!
The same silly naive arguments as when people defended and believed that Lance was clean.
All the changes that are put forward to explain why a clean peloton is faster now than the doped peloton of the Armstrong / Pantani era are irrelevant if a fundamental change in basic human nature has not also occurred amongst the riders themselves. Are the current professional cyclists more honest? Are the incentives to cheat less? Has the risk/reward for doping changed? Have the parcours become more realistic so the team domestics do not need 'assistance' to finish within time limits? Do riders still take a 'sticky bottle' because, while it is obviously cheating, everyone does it so it is ok?
For me personally: I’m age 40, 68 kg, fat 21%, Visceral fat 11, and 3W/Kg…to me, improvement in W/Kg is targeted by reducing belly fat, and hopefully being able to climb with more enjoyment instead of suffering
As someone who lives in the uk with a decathlon store very near by. I’ve asked the decathlon employees a couple of times if I can have a look at one of their rcr race bikes. No matter what the spec is they do not have them in the store and they say it will take a week or so for them to order it and then for it to arrive. I wouldnt be surprised if this is also the case for all decathlon stores
10.5 minutes of adverts in this episode, it’s starting to ruin the content for me 👎
Thinking about what Lance's team were doing at thier peak with blood transfusions in hotels and motorbikes driving around France dropping off gear seems crazy. Having a small motor in a bike seems pretty realistic and doable. Interestingly i think people would think motor doping is worse than taking PED's!
The always clean Slovenian Alien and Danish Anchovy 😂
A huge number of people called Froome and Sky out for doping, before there was any circumstancial evidence, just because they were winning, and the w/kg and climbing times they were doing were not very good by historical standards. So whoever wins the tour is going to get called a cheat and it is boring to have this conversation every year.
Benji was right of course, and Sean Kelly comes off as an idiot when calling him "boy" when in fact he talks to a guy who has immersed himself completely in cycling and takes in absolutely everything that is going on in cycling. Having been a cyclist 30 years ago is not really a qualification that gives you more knowledge than everybody else. We have the Benji equivalent cycling nerd commentator on eurosport in Norway, super knowledgeable commentary and teaches you thing you did not know on occasion. Then we have the main tv-channel TV2 with commentators that really dont follow cycling that hard, one of them the very likable Dag Otto Lauritsen ex pro from 1980s, this team does hardly teach you anything about cycling, they are more interested in the fans, or in the emotional side of things. Also living in the past, thinking Van Aert or Van der Poel are going to light up half the stages of the tour. About sir Wiggo, I did not think he was so bad on the move, the sad thing is getting a sir title does not even give you a steady income 🙂 Empty title, even in old greece, the winning olympians got rights to free food as champions 🙂
About the van Rysel, all the slow guys want free speed remember ? Not just the struggle from 39-41km/h that is real, also the 29-31. If the bike is harsh there is always wider tyres and lower air pressure right ?
Should the title be Clean (?) Tour de France Riders Smashing Fastest Doped Climbers … Just asking 🙂
Articles mentioning disc brakes as a tech advantage for uphill riding is so exposing its stupidity.
If I weighed 67kg I'd be Jonas Thingegard. But unfortunately, I'm Fattej Pogacar.
I think at some level it should be up to the teams to justify the massive performances. They have tons of data they could explain in details. I know they could lose a competitive advantage but it would be worth it for the image of the sport.
Slammed hubbard bike with 120 stem in better than a pRo aErO rAcEbIke with 90mm stem full spacers for normies. Fight me.
Think you might be missing some quotes…. like "fitter" and "clean" 🤔
You must be pretty stupid if you think they are clean all the top riders are doping they just dont get caught
I have been an avid cyclist and fan for a long, long time but at the moment I have lost interest. I love a winner same as the next man but this is getting ridiculous. The guy wins the Giro at a stroll and does the same at the TDF beating records set by confirmed dopers. The interview with Pidcock after Pog won one of the monuments attacking solo for 80km was priceless, interviewer " so Tom what did you think about Tadej solo 80km win"? Pidcock answers "What the f**k"! Come on guys he will announce he is riding the Vuelta and going for Olypic Gold next and sweep the board hailed as the best ever! I don't care how light the bikes are or whether they eat more, that level of elite endurance without any lapse in performance is impossible for the human body to sustain and let's face it the bunch are no mugs. Multiple Grand Tour winners, World and Olympic champions, world class riders being made to look like rank amateurs! The way he is winning every stage is going to upset people, it has always been an unwritten rule don't be greedy other riders have got to eat as well, so I suspect this will blow up in the next few seasons as people, teams and sponsors become tired of the lack of respect for other riders
About the W/kg chat, people forget there are other zones that matter. My threshold is pretty low for a cat 1/A grade rider, usually in the 4.5 to 5 range. However, im pretty conformable doing 7+ for a couple minutes at a time all day long. Then having an 1700W sprint makes me competitive on any course that doesn't have a full on mountain.
But has anyone heard HOW inhaling CO can improve performance? CO binds to haemoglobin, but unlike with oxygen the body has no enzyme to make it release. Essentially taking that haemoglobin and those blood cells that contain the locked up haemoglobin out of commission… PERMANENTLY!! So what is the method that uses this to increase performance? At least initially… it decreases performance markedly? Might take a couple weeks to recover. 🤷🏽♂️
Filipino Ganna set the hour record with an average of something like 6.4w/kg I believe. It was a one hour effort in a climate controlled environment, essentially totally flat with no surges. He did not have a week of racing in his legs, or 150kms of sitting in before he jumped.
Your podcast is so disgusting. Who are you. Did you ever ride a bike. Do you want credits for your podcast talking shit about retired cyclists.
Who cares about covid?
I don't know how you get around the stage length issue, but I do often wonder if they use E-bikes of some sort to get these records. I'm not sure if that is better or worse than regular doping.
If you want to beat Pogi, it needs to be hot and you have to have a good team to wear him down. It has not been a hot summer during the Tour and Visma is the only team with a shot to beat him. Jonas came in still recovering, they have no Sepp, Wout didn’t come in at top form and their support riders other than Matteo have been substandard. In contrast, Pollitt is setting the tempo (Hincapie style, I must add lol) for UAE to start climbs and Tadej still has had Yates, Sivakov and Almeida, if he even needed them, after Pollitt dropped away. Didn’t even matter that Ayuso dropped out.
Do you actually hear what you are saying? You are saying that a clean rider now is faster than a doped rider 28 years ago due to equipment.
If you said a clean rider now is faster than a clean rider from the past due to equipment then that makes sence. But to claim that lower rolling resistance tyres and eating more carbs can make a human climb faster now than a human doped with EPO.
This is the same shit that was claimed during the Armstrong era, better training equipment etc.
How the hell you know they're clean?!
Probably they are not😂😂😂
Hey Chris, a couple of days ago I returned from a 5 week trip to Europe. A long the way I dropped in on 3 Decathlon stores. Paris, Bordeaux and Berlin. In terms of bikes the French stores only had low end Triban branded bikes including both road and gravel. The Berlin store (Alexanderplatz) had a van Rysel RCR and RCR Pro on display, which I assume you could purchase, but not much in the way of stock. Definitely a nice looking bike. All the stores stocked Van Rysel shoes and kit. I purchased a couple of jerseys, base layer, gloves and the 2nd tier Van Rysel road shoe. Seems like good quality at reasonable price even for a Aussie! There was no stock of the top tier shoe in any of the stores. In terms of their commitment to cycling Decathlon have all the bases covered with plenty of mid to low end stock including apparel, parts and bikes (road, gravel, city) plus a service department. As an Aussie this was pretty impressive to see. The shop floor area dedicated to cycling was immense. If they launched into Australia I think it would a success and potentially a major disrupter for the lbs and to some extent Bike Bug, Pushys and Ccache.
Lance is a funny guy, having never apologised to the world of cycling for ruining it for a decade+
Des reviews: shills a gps, will never been forgiven 😂😂😂
EPO gene-therapies or cellular therapies ought to be discussed more.