Tom Talks: Showroom Tour with McLaren F1 CEO Zak Brown | Formula 1 Stories & Current Stock

On this episode of ‘Tom Talks’ we are joined in the showroom by McLaren CEO Zak Brown.

Tom takes Zak for a tour of the showroom, they discuss some of the cars we currently have in stock and we are sure you’ll love it as our stock has never been so incredible at any one single time. From Formula One cars (which you won’t be surprised to hear Zak has a soft spot for) to the likes of a Ferrari 250 GTO, the only surviving Le Mans winning Works Jaguar, Zagato bodied Aston Martin and Ferrari, a very special Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 plus a host of hypercard are just some of the treats you’ll see and hear about.

If that’s not enough, we hear more about Zak’s love for cars, where it all started and he and Tom share some very interesting stories.

We hope you enjoy!

on this episode of Tom talks we have a very special guest McLaren’s CEO racer all round nice guy and my friend Zach Brown now Zach has never visited the showroom before he’s threatened on many occasions to visit us but never made the trip up from woking and we’re going to chat about Zach’s passion for cars where it all started what his favorite cars are in his collection what he doesn’t like so much and I’m sure when he arrives and he walks around the showroom our showroom at the moment we have never had such incredible cars under the roof at any one time and I’m sure he’s going to be really excited and I hope you enjoy [Music] it what’s your favorites the Nikki yeah have you got have you got a Nikki I’ve got a Nikki which what’s your Nikki then 80 oh McLaren yeah 85 last win oh really 85 last win I mean the rent is the collection’s amazing yeah the rent I think is really special the rent is I’ve never seen a rent and the goggles with it yeah yeah that’s but this helmet here Bruno jaell when we were looking for Snell numbers we found an Italian prayer card wow that’s you know a prayer card about keeping somebody safe wow that’s cool it actually made me tingle when I got it cuz I was like I wonder who put that in there did he put it in there or did his wife put it in there yeah okay you are an historian on F1 yeah yep slim bored who unbelievable right is he this guy is a legend what’s his name slim borgard never yeah the abber drummer oh yeah yeah and was a Formula One driver oh really I can’t believe he’s not a bigger Legend no I’d never heard of him he was the drummer out of ABBA yeah and then decided to be a Formula 1 driver and was a Formula 1 driver I’d never heard of him I’d never heard of him uh grahe Hill yeah grae Hill that’s amazing Lamar winning helmet and also the helmet when at his funeral the helmet that they put on his coffin they look good like this don’t they yeah they look really good all my helmets are just sitting on a counter they actually look nice and you could we just didn’t have enough room so it became like where are we going to put the Hound we just put them here but then but then we actually so cars where do we start this is the this one that’s the louder 75 championship winner my biggest regret selling my 74 Lou of car that was 15 I ended up with it yeah you know when you sell something and then you’re a great at 5 years later is that your biggest regret selling that car yeah M yeah why because it was louder or because louder Ferrari and I’ll never get it back you actually defin you actually definitely won’t with the guy who owns it now we sold it to an Austrian and he it ain’t going anywhere he is that’s his car and I sold it cuz I didn’t fit in it well and comfortably and that was back when it was I didn’t want to have any car that if I couldn’t drive it I didn’t want it you said that the same oh no the March did you March same gear linkage M and I regret that one not as much as the L but I that your Jackie Stewart car is amazing thing is about louder as well the cars when you sold the louder car it’s easy to regret that now in hindsight just because of the value you can’t help it it’s worth five times what I sold you’re just you’re also it’s worth five times what I sold it for and I sold it for twice what I paid for it hindsight’s a wonderful thing if we all had a time machine exactly 15c so what Williams do you have I have 1980 fw07b that Jones won three races in first championship and then I have mansel’s 87 fw11b which he won four or five races that’s pretty cool though is that car is Mega car I must that like to drive haven’t driven it yet but uh it’s all done now ready to go I’ll probably drive it later this year yeah um great Livery great Livery also Manel as well he was a and that particular chassis is the one he won the British Grand Prix in the you know the famous pass on PK It’s that car so to me and I’m a big Nigel Mansel fan I also have his 93 indie car that he won the championship in yeah you got that last year D got that last year yeah so I’m big n with my favorite guys Senna andred hackin in Mansel faly there you Five Guys those are my Five Guys really yeah what’s the what’s who am I five tell me first of all what’s the love then for Mansel why do you like Manel so I liked well it was awesome to watch yeah so I was Center was always my guy but Manel close behind I like the guys that won in indie car and Formula 1 which is how many is there Emma yeah Mansel yeah Hill Graham 500 but not the I don’t think they ever won the championship villain who’ve won both championships but that was kind of a little bit later on um Mario so I like you know so Mario emo and Nigel were those guys that did both and then Ma and Senna cuz they were just pure Formula One and P McLaren yeah I think Senna is got to be everybody’s guy I think so because he just such a handsome man and had so much Charisma and and just amazing driver isn’t he and I think when you look at that Donnington race or the race in Brazil do you remember when he he was he could couldn’t shift couldn’t shift the thing drive around in sixth gear yeah and then they get out they complain these days sometimes you you know about anything yeah um so I think s’s anybody’s P up these cars are cool this car came second to Center at Donington second to Center in Monaco in 93 won three races came second four times and came third three times all in Hills first year with Williams awesome car and then this car came this gu was on pole in Monaco two wins with Hill also came second that is 17 this is 17 yeah uh so 15 and 17 this was such an both of them are iconic liveries that I think the Sega is the The Mantel right that that whole cuz that Livery really started in 85 86 was it no it might have been 85 yeah with what PK rosberg then yeah and then this survived until they went was 93 with the last year 93 and and then it went 94 and that kind of ran till 9 six s cuz then they went to the Windfield uh yeah that was 90 definitely 97 and I think 98 is maybe when they shifted over to Windfield that was fren and then zardi I think it just and were you involved in any of those sponsorships with Williams back then not my first deal I ever did with Williams was the Lenovo sponsorship which was rosberg and and uh Ralph schumacker yeah and that was early 2000s that was uh that would have been 200 five cuz I don’t think I think what a lot of people don’t realize because obviously you’re you’re so um high-profile today in F1 and everyone knows you as Mr McLaren and the CEO of McLaren but long before that for like two decades before that you were you were going in and out of each I’ve done deals with Williams I’ve done deals with Ferrari yeah done deals with Red Bull of course McLaren uh Lo Lotus at the at the time um yeah and would I be right would I be right in saying you would have been the main guy to bring sponsorship into F1 there in fact there’s still some sponsors on Toto’s Mercedes that I did oh really yeah you still get the royalties I wish I did but every time I see the logo it’s like I need to take that one back yeah what do you think of this awesome wow so what’s the history on this so uh 250 Tor of France zagato bodied only five of them was ever built of the five that was ever built only three of them had the double bubble roof yeah and of the three that had the double bubble roof only one had covered headlamps but this car came second in class in the last ever mamila sixth overall only got beat by word Works cars by the 315s the 335s by a Maserati 300s um and by the Olivier JN work center 250 14 Lou so as a privateer car it basically won that year and it also won the 57 Italian GT Championship amazing all matching numbers painting’s come a little bit on since those days yeah but but you know it’s nice to see no it’s it’s how was yeah 100% And then Lamar obviously you just had your success at Lamar um was that your first win at Lamar second second we won in 2020 awesome there is no race going the Lamar well other than this car racing Lamar winner said this is the only surviving Works Lamar winning Jaguar this was the car that invented disc breakes can you imagine doing 24 hours in this D two drivers two drivers which was um adri uh Duncan Hamilton what was it and uh Tony Ral so basically two car dealers really well one one and a half car dealers and um oh the spark plugs on the side spares and the car uh still today has its original body chassis engine gearbox this car is a national treasure in the UK this should never be allowed to leave the UK it’s amazing um dark British racing green yep which all original color uh we had the car um restored back to it’s as it is as raced at Lamar specification um but the the breake calipers that are on the car and number two so still the original calipers and the second set of calipers that was ever produced in the world this car changed this car made Ferrari it made everybody who was the competition when it was racing Ferrari Ferrari really in 53 Ferrari was the big competition but you still had it was after the war so you had you know mercedesbenz Ferrari um you know uh Jaguar had such a poor run in 52 after winning it in 51 and that was like their comeback Aston Martin yes well yep it’s so Works db3s Peter Collins so that’s the car that got Peter Collins’s drive for Ferrari so that’s Mill Milli history Lamar history and then Peter Collins raced it as a Works car for Aston and then he bought it off of Aston and raced it as a privateer car amazing this was Racing Stable do you like Aston Martin love Aston I’ve got a db6 of valante yeah and do you use it much I do use it it’s pretty reliable and that’s a mark one correct I love it manual manual right hand drive what color British racing green like like a darker like Mir that so actually I don’t even know what the like British racing green I would say is that British racing green that British racing green that British R that’s British racing green you would really in an Aon Martin the color of the green it probably was was Goodwood green I would say the one it’s near it’s lighter than that but not as light as it yeah um yeah that car came second to actually got a lot of race cars here at the moment that car came second to Moss at Goodwood in 60 so when goodward when Moss won in remember the short wheeel base with number seven yeah the blue short wheeel base uh Roy salvadori came second in that car and should have won the race actually and then this is pretty awesome alpha alpha h8c that now nobody knows about this car yet you are the first person to see it um this is if cars if you could use art analogy in the car world this is your rembrand so this is uh a 298c only seven open cards these types used to race at Lamar these types an 8C 23 and 29 used to race it Lamar but a 2 9 is is basically deemed as the ultimate pre-walk so this was the ultimate evolution of the HC you know uh bought out the 2.3 ler engine it went to 2.6 for the Monza and then to 2.9 for for these cars um they had some which were they’re known as the mamila cars which had the more cycle Fender wing wings um and they won the mamila they went to Lamar these cars won everything like this at Alpha 8C was the greatest car in the world for 255 years so from from the early 30s until the mid to late 50s there was no car at all not any new car that came out that was as good as an alpha EC and then pre are you into pre-walk car I’ve got one or two no I’ve got one a Bentley four and a quarter and do you like it I actually do like it it was Robert Wagner’s car so that’s a Darby correct yeah correct and I I always wanted just in my collection one car that looked like that yeah so I don’t know much about when the last time you drove it I drove that uh six months ago yeah I’ll drive it twice a year reliable it’s believe it or not it’s actually pretty reliable cuz there’s nothing really that can go that wrong with them there’s nothing that drains the battery there’s so many modern cars these days you go to it it’s like I only started it last week and it doesn’t work yeah and and it’s kind and it’s actually pretty easy to drive I mean you look a bit Yeah foolish out on the road well actually the four that four and a half liter Bentley of every car that I’ve got do you drive them yeah I drove this last week and um this one’s for sale that one’s not for sale but my youngest son William that’s his favorite car so if you could collect him in a Bugatti Chiron La Ferrari or the Bentley he calls it he’d take the benty every time but I think it’s the experience of when you sit in the back you know you feel so exposed and you’ve got all the wind hitting you for a child it feels like you’re on a roller coaster yeah these are undervalued de well well adino is the most cash liquid classic car on I think they’re undervalued have you got adino I don’t I’ve always wanted one cuz I think they look the flares are cool relatively inexpensive compared to what it should be worth um but I think they’re going up in value every year they’re very stable because they’re so cash liquid that there was enough of them built sometimes you can have a car that’s too rare you know you can get a car like this for example and you we really have to sit down with somebody and explain to them why it’s worth this price where because there’s seven of them in the world and only three of them really exist today where on adino you see so many traded so much so many auction so many with the dealers that people just know how much they are like it’s 450,000 and it’s you know whether you can negotiate and get 10,000 knocked off it is what it is it you don’t you there’s no uncertainty a buyer doesn’t think oh should it be probably can’t say [Laughter] [Music] it now this is a monster recently sold uh we that’s our third GTO that we’ve sold in The Last 5 Years um that is stunning y you still think that’s the biggest car out sort of outside of something obscure uh it’s like the one everyone talks about is the GTO the GTO how they make 36 36 have you ever driven a GTO no so a GTO to drive I do I think think it’s the most beautiful car in the world no I don’t I think it’s close what do you think that’s more beautiful than that yeah do you yeah yeah to to me it’s a bit more aggressive yeah okay I mean you’re talking about a 10.9 yeah yeah I I think it’s a I think it’s a really goodlooking car but I for me a GTO doesn’t come alive until you drive it and then when you drive a GTO you absolutely get what it’s all about and you go well if it was twice the price of a short wheeel base like everybody would just mortgage their house and buy this so it has to be so much more yeah because it is unbelievable these are now 60 70 80 yeah depending on depending on and the history and yeah but that car was how many good GTO are left a dozen yeah a dozen cars that I would deem as good cars you know there’s some cars out there that don’t not only don’t have their original engine but you I mean they have a a new type of engine in it or a new body and new chassis if you’re buying a car for me if you’ve got 40 million to spend on a car You’ve Got 7 and you can buy great one um but we need to get you to drive one yeah so how many cars have you now got in the collection I’m now 50 50 cars 5050 cars yeah I got a car d ition problem mostly are race cars 35 of them race cars 15 road cars it’s a combination of it’s all the stuff I grew up watching race so I see yeah the hill cars the louder cars and it just makes me feel like I’m 8 years old again or 12 years old again so it’s uh my collecting criteria is the car had to have won a race in period I don’t care I’m the same I don’t care what driver drove it what T if that if it’s not a grand prix winner I don’t buy them I’m not interested so about a dozen Formula One cars which Limits The Cars by the way because if you say I want a Grand Prix winning car and then say take away all of the Mercedes-Benz because they’re all none of them sold and then you go I want a Grand Prix winning car there isn’t that many chassis you know you look at Jackie Stewart for example he one of his cars he won six races in another car he won four races in and then he’s got his other one you’ve got the other one so like there isn’t there three or four cars in in the world louder louder won a load of races but he won six races in that one car that car is amazing he won two races in your old car yep first two yeah so there isn’t many cars to go I actually had his trophy and I asked him about it cuz I was like how did you give up your first Trophy and he he remembered it like it was yesterday he gave it to a guy at a petrol station so I’ve got told me the story so I’ve got a better one than that I sat with him in the British Grand Prix uh I think it was over that car so I had just bought that car from America you sold it to a guy in America I just bought it from him and um I was with Bernie and I said to Bernie do you know what I’ve just bought a car that Nikki should buy and he said oh you should offer it to him so he said but he won’t buy it and I said well he should because surely got that means something to him it was his car that he won his first two races in and uh I offered it to him and he said why would I be interested in that and I said because do you’re not does it not mean anything to you he said you should offer it to my son he said you know every trophy I used to get when I’d walk out of a circuit give it away he said give the trophy away yeah it was amazing unbelievable isn’t it and then these days everybody’s oh everyone’s collecting everything you can’t get anything from these guys um mura love it have you have you I’ve driven muras yeah you don’t own a mura I don’t own mura um we got some other cool stuff over here so section I got a crer GT love it yeah what a car awesome car best engine ever maybe so fast it sounds amazing that V10 engine apparently the V10 was going to go into the an F1 car was there was their original plan yeah it was Formula 1 derived engine um V10 naturally aspirated sounds unbelievable and the car is light you can’t use your car at the moment no cuz of the recall on the suspension I think it’ll be done at the end of the year it’s been nightmare really yeah it’s not cool what was the first what was your first we’ve been walking around here we’ve been concentrating on so many of the cars I forgot all the questions I wanted to ask you but so what was the first car that you ever bought my first car I ever bought well my very first car I drove a Volkswagen Jetta my dad’s but that’s nothing fancy or collectible I think my first ever race car was I had an indie chever uh Indie 500 winner which I went on to sell cuz I’m an Indie 500 fan um but then I’ve refined you know and you’ll see this with all the collectors I went from like I want everything to being very disciplined refined so at one point I had 30 road cars but you never drove them so you get more pleasure after looking at them yeah and if you’re going to look at them look at a race car that you can say this car this car drove I remember I was on the at that race cuz I’ve got cars I was that race made history that’s what I like about race cars is everyone’s unique um so I’ve got my Formula One cars and Dre they’re all uh all race winners and all driven by world champions not necessarily world champions in that particular year but I’ve got three world champion cars Mario and Drey 78 um uh JPS yeah Alan Jones Williams first championship and senz 91 Monaco winner schumacker Ferrari Lewis’s uh last Grand Prix win at McLaren and the first US Grand Prix yeah it’s really cool cuz that particular chassis won the US Grand Prix yeah 2012 obviously being American I was there I actually had some involvement that’s 27 and then he won Monza uh so actually it was the other way around I think it was Monza first and then the US Grand Prix um mik hackin 2001 British grand prix winner which I’ll drive at the British Grand Prix this year in the demo run which is awesome huge me fan I love as you’re there one of the busiest weeks of the year as the CEO of McLaren and like oh where’s Zach where’s that he’s racing in a minute he’s around the track sneak out the back door and then uh so I’m going to drive that and then at the Italian Grand Prix I’m going to drive the lwis car which is fine and then I have a bunch going to be working at any of the grand pris or yeah yeah yeah yeah fitting in around my driving schedule and then a bunch of Indie Cars cuz I love Indie Cars so uh Alan Jr Michael Andre what’s the ultimate indie car I don’t know I don’t know much about Indie Kell for for for me it’s either my Johnny Rutherford 1974 Indie 500 winner cuz it was McLaren yeah Johnny Rutherford I grew up uh but then outside of that one would be the Emerson fit aaly 1989 he won the championship he won the 500 and it was a very famous race where he and Al Jr were battling and out and they touched two laps to go and Al junr ended up in the wall mo1 and I’m an Mo fan and uh it was funny Roger Pensky called cuz all the guys know I bugged him for cars like I got my mantel card directly from Williams I got my hacking in car from Ron so I bug all these guys so Roger calls me he’s like you know I’ve got this car and I just want to get some advice from you I’m thinking about selling it and but you know I’m not sure if I want to put in an auction it’s kind of going on and on I’m like what car are you talking about I’ve got you know because it was between uh it was a Pensky chassis but it was run by a different team they sold chassis to at the time so I don’t really kind of need it Roger what what car he’s like it’s Emerson fit holay 1989 uh you and I was like all right I’ll take it and it was I’m pretty sure the whole call was a set up he was calling for some advice he knew exactly what it is he’s a good operator he’s he’s an awesome operator he’s a he’s one of the he’s an amazing maybe the best I mean from an overall if you look at someone who started racing in the built the race team built a big huge business off the back of his race team and then if you think about what he does today he uses his race team to build his business and he uses his business to build his race team so he’s like the original leverage Motorsports to build your business so he he’s first class and he’s raced and everything I hope he wins Lama because it’s like you know he’s won everything else he’s won in F1 he’s won in indie car he and the you know he’s 84 85 years old and he’s up all 24 hours he works very hard he he’s unbelievable yeah he’s a great unbelievable I’ve been fortunate to be able to work with Roger work with Ron Dennis work with Bernie eckelstone I know you’re good buddies with Bernie these guys are the legends of the also people like don’t really exist like that anymore do they it’s a different I suppose the world has changed so they can’t exist anymore Jesus like if you imagined you know they’d have to adapt their the drivers the owner like all the stuff that happened in the 670s 60s 7s ‘ 80s ’90s even into the 2000s but then it’s a different world now I mean even fuel I suppose back in qualifying nobody would know exactly how much fuel somebody else ran with no no now it’s all data data everywhere and you mentioned Eddie chever earlier he was quite quick guy wasn’t he he was quick and my first ever race was the 1981 Long Beach Grand Prix yeah so I’ve always collected stuff I still have the program yeah with the um starting grid so we got it on the Sunday half the drivers died I mean you look at in it’s villain unbelievable uh and Edie Jer signed it I remember like it was yesterday I was 10 years old he’ I think he finished fifth in the race cuz he was American he was you big deal he was very fast we had his 288 GTO last year did you I never knew he had one and he had it new from Ferrari o he was very close with the Ferrari family he lived in Monaco and drove drove it from um the factory to [Music] Monaco did you you’ve got a yeah I love 28 that looks mint uh I love 2 I think this is such an awesome car and it’s just going to keep going north isn’t it yeah they only Built 272 of them for me I’ve got an F40 and a 288 is this what you’re going to take on the tour I’m going to take I’m going to take uh I haven’t decided yet I think I’ll take the GTO although I have to say everybody seems to want to bring their GTO so yeah so I I don’t know whether I’m going to have to balance it out say polter you got to bring poter wanted to bring his GTO okay so maybe I might have to say to Paul toal you got to bring the 275 and I’ll bring one um but they’re such a good awesome I’ve got an F40 and you know I actually never I’m never that excited about driving the F40 but these these cars I think it’s maybe because they’re they feel a bit more um they just look cool yeah and also and you need to know what they are if you see a 308 or a 328 and you don’t know Ferraris yeah but people that know 288s this is to me it’s kind of the giveaway yeah um and the high the high mirrors and also do you know what people yes they resemble a 308 or 328 but when they’re actually completely car completely different body the the bulbous rear arches the big is the same thing as an F40 engine basically it is yeah yeah basically V8 twin turbo um per sangra have you seen the no the new Ferrari SUV no I think that’s a goodl looking car that is a good looking car first time I’ve seen disgustingly expensive yeah what do they run that car cost new about 440,000 um which is a you know crazy amount of money for an SUV but you can sell them bumper to bumper from here all the way back to woken like it’s unbelievable year year did these start last year last year so it’s a 20 2023 okay and they fetch huge premiums how much are they how many are they going to make well I I think they’ll be I I think they’ll be low production but it’s not a limited edition yeah but you know Ferrari are very good they never saturate the market no no they just build enough cars they s so sell one less than there’s demand for like the old man’s motto you know yeah yeah um P1 I love I I think undervalued new batteries coming there’s no reason why this shouldn’t be on bar with an Enzo I think we have just about missed the boat on the last of the really value p1s because they were not much over a million p and three cars have sold in the last 3 weeks we’ve sold this one uh we sold this one to a client in America and I think you’re going to see these cars get to2 million very quickly like I think the jump up will happen pretty quick um and I was I was thinking last week I thought we should go and buy another one like a nice spec car either buy it for stock or buy it and just pack it away for a little bit but we just now can’t find a good one um laf Ferraris as it happens these cars are3 million for a laf Ferrari Coupe y the you know less than half price for a McLaren P1 that makes sense and also to drive that is a that it’s a great car to drive as a driver’s car yeah it makes no sense cuz this is worth three yeah that should be worth pretty close too um F40 this was Sterling Moss is new nice Sterling Moss now they had a US version and a Eur version us versions are terrible are they what was the difference was it exhaust just horrible so you’d have bumpers on the front so ugly bumpers on the front ugly bumpers on the rear different seats yeah so just for us just horrible they just absolutely bastardized such a special raw car and um sorry to say it but most people in your country pay more for us spec cars and I don’t I don’t get it um and with this car we sold today actually this is a non-cat non- adjust so people get hung up non-cat non adjust that car is a cat adjust I don’t think it makes a difference like you know my car that I keep is an adjustable suspension some people say you should have it non-adjustable um but db4 zagato so only 19 of these cars ever built gorgeous car this is the only one of the 19 cars that has uh that’s yours open headl that’s mine plate gives it away yeah so that car was do you know Marco Pini yeah of course so that was um Enzo Ferrari yeah gifted it to him for his 1983 season in Formula 1 and but when they say gifted it I think it was gifted more as rather than be renumerated with cash you know maybe um with the car and he kept it and I bought from Marco so it was one owner from new and it’s the Prototype it’s the oldest 288 GTO in existence and now what’s this that’s the 288 Evo EV I’ve never seen that well there’s only five ever built that’s why I’ve never seen it and only three of them one of them’s in brunai and one of them is in so what this just like a combination of everything well it was to go um Group B racing okay um on the tarmac and then that got abolished before the car was finished yeah uh but Ferrari decided to still build five they instantly sold they went to all their best collectors one went to brunai and the other one went to all their top collectors at the time um and uh it’s it’s really the line between the 288 GTO and the F4 you can see that yeah it looks got the GTO in the back you got the F40 on the doors unbelievably raw so they made them with two different types of engine um three cars had the really powerful Engine with which this car’s got and then two cars had the basically the standard GTO engine and it’s bloody quick yeah it’s raw it’s quick it’s um I think it’s a very special car actually um yeah I’ve never seen one so and your favorite car at the minute that you’ve got in the collection uh let’s discount my favor car my favorite three cars would be my 959 that’s with the caner upgrades love the 959 just a daily driver rare like the 288 and it’s one of those cars that if you don’t know what it is people just go it’s kind of an older looking turbo if you know what it is you go that’s a 959 um probably my 288 yeah GTO um and like Cobra you like the Cobra 289 cobra that’s a lot of fun though isn’t it lot of fun and I always wanted one as a kid and they just sound you fire it up and it’s just all yeah yeah those would be the three and you know I’ve got to say when we obviously we speak a lot but I don’t know how you do it you’re always on the road you’re always in the pl on a plane you’re going traveling from and I don’t know how you get time to drive any of I don’t unfortunately I mean I drive to the factory which sometimes I get a few like is that Zach and a Ferrari MH uh can you park the visitors but we have a rule if it’s any car pre 95 it can it can come in because that’s when the McLaren F1 I can come in so I just can’t have anything Post 95 that’s the competition so they don’t mind pre 95 yeah this this is a you know [Applause] this so this is the car that Lewis unbelievable this is the car that Lewis won his first two races in including the last ever race of Indianapolis yeah so he won Canada the race of Indianapolis um and then also Fernando jumped in it and he won this is as good as it gets don’t you think that the arrow is insane the arrow the arrow is insane and when you look at the later cars like say the 27 that we were just talking about it it’s it doesn’t have any of this none of it this has so much the this is the peak of era yeah I mean everything looks dangerous and I I think I have to say McLaren um underrun at the time as well though like the cars were always so beautiful wasn’t it his design his eye for design there isn’t any better just just the if you look at the flame that comes through and and it comes right to the exhaust tail pipes today you know what the problem with this would be weight of the paint yeah because now all the cars are carbon fiber cuz we’re all trying to get weight down this would have been fine in period because of the regulations today if we tried to do this it was funny I had a call from Mercedes one of the cuz we this was like our patent or trade mark and they wanted permission to use it and I went to my guys like let them use it cuz it’s heavy yeah but this car is and the sound is amazing how much more will it weigh them for paint how much do you save these days with the record I mean the amount of weight we’re I mean we’re trying to save a kilo or less than a Kil I mean it’s and you’re never going to find it in what does that calculate to though like a kilo for example 10 kilos would be about 3/10 10 kilos would be 3/10 yeah so and you’re not going to find it in taking this off you’re going to find it by the small so you sit there and they’ll come to me and they go we need to take some vinyl off and it’s like well how much does that weigh and it’s like that’s like weighs nothing yeah but we’re if you do it everywhere and that’s what Formula 1 is it’s all about even the development we bring we talk about Mill seconds and it’s like how do you even like measure that and it’s amazing the attention to detail and the smallest incremental gains we’re trying to make on weight on performance on down down Force taking drag out but that’s why the Grid’s so close now and do you enjoy from being I mean you’re you’ve always been a great operator so you was great with and with all bringing all the sponsorship into F1 and do you enjoy your time now more with McLaren have you definitely adapted because it’s everything so I get the commercial side which I have always loved will always love I get the racing side and I like the technical side I don’t have any contributions to make to the technical but I I like I understand it um I can tell a good technical person from a bad technical person but I can’t do there mhm job but you can get a sense for when someone’s talking how confident they are did did it happen as they said it would so you can start to go I can’t figure out what you’re doing but I can figure out you’re good at it or not look I like it I know the team you’ve got them it’s incredible but you how you’ve turned it around I mean now these days everyone Fanci McLaren to win and I forgot what that feeling was like me too I’m still feet on the ground took a long time to get back to where we are but we we got to stay on it and when we will win the championship that’s when it’s going to be a big celebration unbelievable but 600 P this thing’s cool so it’s not very fast this is what you call Providence first owner John Lenin wow second owner George Harrison wow third owner The Supremes that’s got some history you imagine what’s been happening in the back of there it’s uh this is this is spectacular and also how long have you had this uh a few months and also in uh Mercedes BS in a lot of their fact this be cool to drive around in have someone drive you around in London yeah totally I I think even for a young guy if you was being driven around so cool if it was going to have a Rolls-Royce whatever they are Phantom or cullin or something this is the car to have or this yeah what’s something like that cost this is1 and a half million yeah there’s just all the history is amazing is it but so the restoration on this car was done by the factory you couldn’t restore this car at the factory it looks mint I me look at the door I mean it just but you couldn’t restore this car for 500,000 at the factory you couldn’t restore it for that be 750,000 that thing is awesome and we’ve got all photos and videos of John Lennon and yok Corona in the car this is awesome and um you know and then to think after he used it and by the way properly used it he didn’t he didn’t sell it after 6 months with 500 Miles he used it he used it and then he sold it to George Harrison who used used it and then Mary Wilson from The Supremes bought it and exported it to America there’s photos of her on laid on the Bonnet of the car in her biography it’s amazing and then it went back to the factory and was uh was totally restored what a cool car what year is that uh 1970 7 1970 these cars that you know um when they came out in 1963 this for me was the Pinnacle of Mercedes-Benz like the build quality of it yeah with what it was competing against this is there was nothing like it oh cool car um so that’s that’s our showroom tour cool tour and uh thank you for coming up today my pleasure this is great what’s your favorite your favorite uh if you could go away with one car Nikki yeah yeah makes me think of the one I had but that one’s even better and Road car oo well I’ve got a 288 GTO trainer size about GTO but that’s a bit out the problem is you’ve got most of the cars in here so it’s I’ve got some I’ve got F40 I’ve got if I had to steal one it be the 288 GTO not the the 250 I mean yeah that’s not a bad car to steal no no it’ be a good car to steal I bet you Haven it insured though um congratulations on y Leon win thank you that was a good one it was very good and congratulations on how you’ve turned McLaren around thank I’m super grateful that you’ve never decided to go into the car business because I could do without a competitor like you and um that’s why I get invited to your tours exactly you good I keep coming you can come as many as you want awesome good to see you yeah cheers [Music]