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I’m just having a Couer now I’m not sure how many of you had trouble tonight getting in I know Mike right did he couldn’t get into the chat he actually couldn’t see the video or anything like that and if you’ve had a similar problem let me know because I book to speak to YouTube tomorrow to try and sort it out so I can see Billy’s in I’m just going to go to the oh so I can I Donald Margaret JoJo bil My slice there’s Dave Davies the wh must General where’s kiss gone there’s baby with a l there’s Darren um so let I’ll let everybody get in hi dazza MK could you put that light on it’s really I think it’s a bit dark I don’t know which it’s better on or off to be honest try that one try the big one let me turn this on piure no it’s not your turn there we go that’s better no you going to lie down you going to lie down over there we dad right good lad it’s a goodby you know hi so so let me get my laptop get me notes oh yeah yeah it’s been a the strange one I finished the earlier premere about 2 minutes ago and I finished it on the note of how things have changed so much um in the UK really when it’s comes to crypted subjects and crypted Witnesses and sharing experiences and the like so when I first came forward I couldn’t get anyone to check my report nobody was interested at all um and it took me a long time probably well from 82 till I from being 15 to about 38 something like that so a long time a long time before I actually got somebody to sit down and take me seriously and I’ve spent the last decades obviously putting up with a lot uh a lot of ridicule and stuff like that but things have really changed so recently The Guardian newspaper The Observer got in touch with me and asked me if they could do a two-page spread on me um um as a famous world famous monster hunter which I thought was amazing and I thought blil we come far aren’t we like I couldn’t even get the the daily St to take any interest at any point so to it suddenly people are realizing that there’s a real genuine interest out there for people in this subject hi Fonda R is being right at the moment hi Margaret I’m not sure if I missed you earlier yeah so to go from people going on not interested in EN crypting subject if it’s paranormal I’ll listen you know if it’s if it’s a UFO story I’ll listen I’m not really interested in the cryp it’s gone massively it’s gone all the other the way to the other side hasn’t it so that brings me to the conferences as you know I went down to Wilshire um I’m just going to fill you in on the con the conferences and then we’ll got into the Dogman stuff and the Biddle stuff I just need to get it out of the way I traveled out to Wilshire and it was amazing I’ve got to be honest they been over backwards to accommodate me so Mark took me to the train station put me on the train um the guy at the railway station was fine with him getting on and getting me on and getting me settled and everything and when I got to the Train on the other end the people who are staying with at the B&B actually picked me up from the station and took me to uh the B&B which was beautiful beautiful it was um a very tiny village a little village called PU um like lots of chea houses and it was oh it was lovely and the place where I stayed was lovely I had the whole place to myself and HB who you’ll see sometimes in the chat came along and she helped me get about like to the to the hall and and and everything so I had a giggle the first night that I got there I wasn’t speaking till the Saturday so I got there about tea time on the Friday um and it’s beautiful he T me in and she said here’s your keys like and I said which room is mine and she was like no all of it’s yours so he had like a garden room um and he had a my bedroom was lovely had a lovely lounge and an upstairs I didn’t go obviously I can’t get upstairs so I didn’t go and look at that but I went to something to eat and there was no knives or Forks or spoons or plates or anything there was nothing in the entire place so I had a phone Mark didn’t I a FaceTime Mark I was like mt I know you’re going to think I’m crackers but there’s not there’s only one cup and one spoon you like the one they give you in your bedroom for a Breo so I was like what you do two of you stay got to be cup somewhere so you made me go through every cup didn’t you nothing not a thing so it’s lovely I’m staying it’s beautiful but I had to drink me pot n what there’s no knives or Forks or spoons or nothing so I guess there’s nowhere open it wasn’t anywhere I could go and like buy a spoon or something like that so just like Castle gray spoon no spoons I called it in my head but oh it was lovely and we had a deep really good turnout and the speakers that were on were amazing I was a bit nervous to be honest cuz it was my first real kind of yeah yeah for two hours like normally I can do an hour live it’s nothing is it but actually standing up in front of people and sticking to your PowerPoint and cuz that didn’t happen um but people started to share their experience so it kind of fluidly changed so I what I wanted to do was British Bigfoot on me which I did then I did learning about the Dogman reports and they did those reports and then I wanted to do creatures that are seen on Ministry of Defense land now someone pointed out to me today that I was say military of defense and I dare and I didn’t realize I did it so the next video that goes out it’s going out wrong because it’s going out as military of Defense but I now know it’s Ministry of Defense yeah so I didn’t get to do that bit so lots of people have asked me where they can see the talk and miles is Ed in it as he speak there was a number of speakers on for two days so he’s got to edit that down and put them out on his channel when he puts them out on his channel I will link them into you so you’ll know they’re there but when I came home my legs look like they belong to a man who worked out me knees and everything swell and like not used to traveling that far and it really did a number on me bones so I stuck in bed anyway so I thought right well I’ll do the talk for the people that didn’t get down to go down there and hear it so that’s what I’ve done I’ve sat down and I did the first part of the talk I did big foot of me um and I think you’ll get that not next week the week after um and then I did Dogman reports and how I learned about them and the things that I know about them and it was just basically me had living with pictures so now I know what to do the next time I go and not to try and cram too much in information in and I didn’t realize obviously that you have a break in between so I hadn’t counted for that so I thought I had all this time to get all this stuff in and I didn’t so I said said skip a bit out but I said to I don’t mind coming back I’ll come back and do one on the ministry of defense or like creatures that seen on Ministry of Defense land and I was speaking to a chat today who’s from um the US and he served here um because we have a lot of American military bases for people who don’t know that and he had some strange experiences I suggested that he jotted him down and tomorrow I’m going to see if he’ll let me share them with you um I didn’t haven’t had a chance to speak to him today about it but the the was the speakers were varied so there was lots of different subjects and I really enjoyed them and as a speaker you get to sit and watch them all as they going on and the conference finished it went on for quite a long time people were really interested people came up to me and told me their experiences um one lady spoke of seeing what she described as a chimp like creature that went across the road like in a crab almost in a crab position near wab another lady had seen something in a front room at home and he was a chap out there and I hope he’s listening because he put his number in my phone so that I could contact him but he didn’t tell me what his name is and your phone doesn’t tell you what the last numbers that went in us so he could be anyone in me phone and he was from close to Stafford sh I was talking about the the the bidol creatures and there was a a map on the wall and he recognized kic Chase on it and he said that he thinks his friend may have encountered something like that out there and I don’t know what your name is to to ring you so you need to like let me know in the comments if you’re around because I was like obviously we we were we were jelling because it it was like he was like I know what you mean I’m always out doing because obviously the guy you the bidle report is always out and about in nature and it’s that’s one of my theories isn’t it and I’ll get more into that as the live goes on so we did all of that and that ended they went for um uh I think they went for a drink to the pub that’s not me that I was absolutely shattered so I just got um some salad and I went back to the hotel and I just enjoyed the night I sat in the garden it was lovely and sun and FaceTime out for a bit and I just enjoyed the the all of it and they took me back to the Train the next morning and as I got off the train my end Mark was there waiting for man he put me in and couldn’t walk I just couldn’t walk I got off the train and I couldn’t work so like I thought right I’m going to show people how hard it is for and that’s why I took those photos of me legs they just swell they just do this thing where they just stand up like somebody else’s legs for a few days I can’t stand on them I can’t feel them so there’s no pain involved or anything like that it’s just that’s what happens when I overo it but I loved it and Miles has asked me to go back and I said most definitely I want to go back and do a UFO talk I want to talk about what happened to Mark um and because there’s so much information on that I could do an hour on that alone I’m just going to I I’ll read that in a second pearls so I want to do that and I’ve also been invited to talk at the Birmingham uh UFO meeting I think they have a meeting on the first Thursday of every month and I’ve done the one at toddm a couple of times and we always get a good turnout um so Mark’s going to drive me down and I think I’m talking about British big foot and me but I’m going to speak to Dave about me coming down and doing I want to do some of my UFO cases with people and I did um a talk on are some do some families have a predisposition to activity whatever kind of activity that is so I think that’s a talk in itself and I tried to cram all of that into into two hours and it wasn’t doable so I had to skip a few things on my PowerPoint and get jumped to the thingy bit but it was worth it it showed me what I need to put in and what I need to leave out because I’m going to get asked those questions Anyway by the audience it’s all a learning curve is it it’s it’s easy sitting here you know well it’s it’s not as easy as people think but compared to doing a talk it’s easy because if I run out of things to say I can just say oh I’ve run out of things to say let me just get me laptop and I’ll ask you questions you can’t do that when you you know you’re doing a professional talk you you have to do it so I wanted to do more on the dog man stuff while I was down there but I didn’t get the chance really but I think people understood because like I say they kept coming up to me and saying you know actually You’ made me think rethink something that happened to me years ago and that’s what I was hoping to do um and like I say miles can’t wait for me to come back I can’t believe it’s been two weeks but we went to the doctors didn’t we just just random just they he testing me B12 that’s all it’s nothing nothing wrong with me um so I just went to get a normal blood test in the morning and by the night I knew I said to oh my God I picked some up from that doctors come on that quick and he never gets Hill he never gets Hill and I found him on his knees in the bathroom he was like bad so he’s like for about four or five days wen’t we just dead I couldn’t do anything just basically giving each other water and like right notes the children and KS we didn’t make it but we did make it don’t think Roy knew what I did we didn’t get a walk or anything but yeah so and and here we are so that’s why you’ve not had a live stream for the last two weeks that’s me apologizing I couldn’t I couldn’t have done one I said to Joe when I was when I’m down at the bases if I get a chance Joe and the Wi-Fi is good in the hotel I’ll do a live but I didn’t realize just how tiring it would be just absolutely tued it out of me and then cuz I’m empathic when I’m meeting people I pick all that up as well so I have to go and kind of process that and I always think people think I’m really ignorant cuz I don’t go for the meal or I don’t go for the pub but that’s another set of other people’s energy all the customers that are in there and I can’t do it it’s too much I have to go and like chill so I went and sat in the garden it was beautiful at River a at the bottom couldn’t have asked for more it was absolutely lovely so I said to HP come on I’ll show you come I’ll show you these no spoons in here cuz kept thinking B I’m crackers so luckily in the daytime there was a little cafe that opened so we went in there and a cheese on toast and it was just over the road from where I was staying so I said come on I’ll put me bag back in cuz I don’t need me tripod I thought I needed it and uh I went in and I said I’ve not been upstairs I said as soon as I come in the door I was like right if it’s oned I don’t care I’m down here on business please pleas don’t show you s to me at middle at night because I just had this version of like I’m in someone else’s house and I’m going to have a night tarot or I’m going to see something so she was like what’s upstairs went I don’t know I’ve not been upstairs it feels really spooky going past the stairs really quick I didn’t like it she went I’m going to go and have a Lot F she a dead Brave so she did and then I think let them I thought well I’m on a minute what she’s just like kind of R them up but nothing happened I slept like a log yeah I absolutely slept like a log it was lovely not one complain and I thought right I’m going to go and give him a really good Google review cuz you know business is run on Google reviews so let me just scroll back because Pearl’s asked a pertinent question but I’m just going to make sure it was the first question if you put them in caps I can see and that’s what pears did which makes it easy for one second anyone listening back there is a live chat option there we go and in that stockholmes just asked me why do you think these creatures are attract Ed to Ministry of Defense land there’s a couple of reasons and I’m not 100% on any of them so this is just me throwing my thoughts out there right I think there’s a number of things going on I think there are across the world and particularly in the UK a number of underground basis right that we don’t know about dubs Dums whatever you want to call them I think Tod madan’s like that I think the bre and breens are the same I think Salsbury is the same Oxfordshire there are a number of Ministry of Defense installations where people have reported not just to me but to other people other blogs other YouTubers other podcasters friends family workmates whole nine yards seeing creatures on that land so a really good example of that would be Raf albra in RAF albra since the 19 40s through to when it I think the last one that I know of I think the last one that I know was in the very early 2000s but you’ve got I’ve actually got the names wrote down I was working on it the other day so you’ve got a number of soldiers American an English a light because it’s an American Air Force Base so some Americans have gone back after the war and have reported what they call the hard stand monster now I had to ask Chris Huff what they meant by hard stand I thought it was like a nickname or something and he said no D it’s the pad at the airplane so like the hard stand that’s what they call it and I was like oh right okay so he’s like in England we we probably call it like the Beast of RAF albre so each and every one of those reports just let me get denn there was Dennis priv he saw it in the Munitions lab it’s coming back to me and he described it as a standing wolf but he said it had a flat face it was manlike and all covered in hair and it didn’t have fangs it had like normal teeth another guy and he said it ran off and this is the important bit and went to and headed towards the Northwoods so then a number of security guards see it and it literally screams in the face of one of them and absolutely terrifies his dogs and it leaves and heads for the Northwoods so then you’ve got a mechanic that works on one of the planes and he doesn’t check back in at check time at Roso he’s not there so they go and he’s literally in the cab some people say he died but the official statistics say that he was removed from the craft and that there was a number of scratches on that plane lid that creature was described as running off into the Northwoods then another guy I can’t think of his name it won’t come to me he was is the munition area stocking and he said what he saw what he described as a standing wolf an upright wolf that ran very quickly past him into the North Woods at the end of the base so we look at the North Woods cuz each and every account from the war up to today that creature is headed for those woods so it’s either a creature that’s been alive for that amount of time or it’s been a series of creatures and why is it heading for those woods what is it about them well now even though it’s mod land it’s a nature reserve which connects to the river what takes it to the next bit of the M mod land and I don’t know whether it is a combination of our government know about these creatures and they are connected to the base in some way shape or form they were made or employed there or when we have ancient sites that are Disturbed we tend to get reports of wolf-headed men so is this that kind of situation is it like Drake law tunnels where there was never any reports of wolf-headed men of any shape or form until the second world war when a number of tunnels were dug there on an ancient burial site and then people started to see wolf-headed men so it could be a combination of those things when we look at Dogman descriptions and I’m going to give you a couple of cases tonight but some really new cases that you’re going to absolutely love if we look at the descriptions and let’s base it down as basic as possible Right All Creatures look different to the person that sees them they all do so you are never going to get a complete fact similar of the last one and you shouldn’t want a fact similar they should be different so when I’m talking about CIS I’m not talking about variance so debat well said that these five kinds of we will no I’m not I’m just saying from where I sit you have your typical werewolf ears on top of head snout tail feet legs like a dog so with Hawk like what them things called I just get it wrong stifles stifles them things inside of the leg I know what I mean yeah like a proper animal leg and an animal paw and sometimes what is described as a definite dogs paw but longer and the print left behind will be like a dog’s print but longer then you have what I would call a wolf-headed man so a man’s body no tail hands feet human legs male genitalia male chest very broad still is on top of head and snout sometimes that snout can be short like a Googe or of a boon um and then we have what people describe as an almost hybrid and in between of the two so like a when I say about my eight man like a man and an eight pushed together they mean like a dog and a man pushed together so the hand resembles something between a hand and a paw and the foot resembles something between the foot and a part almost like and it’s an analogy that I’m using a werewolf during transformation so you’ve got half of a human body and half of a dog likee body so what if each of them are there for different reasons I might be completely wrong they might all be flesh and blood and they’re just there because the killing’s good but honestly any animal including a human will out eat an area within about 5 to six weeks all that idea of like living out in the Wilds in one spot it’s a bit mad unless you know every single food stuff out there because you got to move you got to move around to get your food so if you was just like killing rabbits week in week out a You’ die cuz you can’t just eat rabbits all the time but B the rabbits won’t come around cuz you noticed that the mates have gone missing so they go somewhere else and that’s what it’s called a halib effect so you have to leave the area alone for a bit and then you come back to it so is it are the military making these weaponized dog like men that are out there and that’s why people are missing in the woodlands and that’s why people are having frightening events on mod Land look at Bon look at the awful reports that come out of bson they’re not fun no one’s seeing these creatures on mod land and thinking it’s it’s like you know your Digger it’s not your Digger it’s like oh my God what is that and how did it how did it a lot of them talk about that Predator that it Vanishing in front of your eyes and they can see it moving but not it they can see the Prismatic look of it moving that could be a technology that is throwing the image back at you it could be some form of armor and we’re seeing that as a crypted creature and it’s not it could be an alien being we do not know what we’re dealing with but I think what I’m trying to say is they’re a different kind of doglike creatures and they are seen in different kind of areas so it tends to be around people’s homes where they see a typical dog like werewolf so think of Daisy on the farm track and she’s walking and she said he was down on four legs at first and he stood up on tattoo when he saw her those kind of cases like Fred’s where he doesn’t know whether it was a hand or a paw but he said it was definitely a werewolf that happens around people’s homes but like the places like Bon and our alcen Bri um that tends to happen on the base they’re a lot more bigger thicker a lot of talk of yellow eyes a lot of people will say they’re up toall and suddenly drop down to the belly and they’ll do that crawl like almost like a Fred Flintstone crawl well that’s strategic maneuver that could be some form of animal human Super Soul and before you think I’m crackers go back and look at the war records and see what they’ve been up to since the 1900s because they been countries all over the world have been trying to put people and animals together to make a super soldier and we don’t know that they’ve not achieved that look at all of the missing children pre-war years across Europe there are thousands and thousands of them you know mothers giving stories that their children were taken down into the dubs in Poland and there was nothing they could do to get them back place is like canic Chase where people are seeing different forms of creatures canic Chase is full of m o land a lot of the old um the German prisoners of was said that they wouldn’t go outside of the base because they were terrified at this creature that would patrol around the base in The Woodlands well that sounds very much like harf Alber so it for me it started to click in when I realize that a lot of this I didn’t realize how literally how much land was owned by the M mod in this country I had no idea how much um it was quite shocking to me to be honest I’m just going to scroll back see if i’ got any questions have you heard about baby with the lasers just ask me if I’d heard about Andy de cod’s cousin’s recent experience at the fishing place your dad was awarding and at Sand doll no I I found a body down there you know the other week though no yeah no no um but honestly I’ve not been on Facebook or anything to for Andy to have told me but I’m not surprised I’m not surprised at all cuz it sits right in the middle of that triangle where the reports are you know um weirdly enough it’s where my mom lives yeah so when I thought she was moving away from where I seen that thing she was moving to a place where eventually I’d realized she was slap bang in the middle of of where lots of reports are made it’s where some people are interested in me John D connection it’s where um Queen Elizabeth the first kicked John D to nobody wanted it was swampy land so the the house on there built in the 14th century and it’s called the screaming skull of wardley Hall so like the Archbishop of sford lives in it’s really Posh it’s like a pre-wed building it’s beautiful don’t get me wrong and in the the the staircase it was a wild skull um and obviously when we had like the the fights between the Catholics and the Protestants they remov that skull and forever after it would scream at night and they put the skull back and it stops and you can actually see the skull uh it’s not it’s not a local Legend it’s really really true and Andy himself had an experience in the house next to that Hall where he was at his um probably at same relative in all honest cuz I think they probably still live in that same house so what you’ve got on there it’s all mining land and a lot of those lands are filled with water and they turn into fishing pits and a lot of the lad us him and my dad was a warden on them he absolutely loved it that’s why they bought the house in the middle of the countryside because that’s all there is is like country side and Fields at the back horses and sheep and Country fi and just beautiful it’s a beautiful area to live and you couldn’t give it away back then for Lov and money because there was no amenities there was no big town or anything like that so people didn’t want to live there you know but it’s an area that’s known for being really spooky and I actually took a report of a burgl believe it or not and he was camping out in those woods because he’d been kicked out of his girlfriend’s house because he was a complete idiot and she booted him out and he said he was trying to break into wildly um into the rooms there and something screamed in day and it made him run away about 2015 I saw that report checks me to this next question do reports of ghostly activity in the UK history hisorical sites tend to focus on a specific time period or are they spread throughout history very easy for me to answer that spread throughout history so you’ve got modernday reports of people seeing ghost who probably passed away two or three weeks ago so you’ve got like people who are connected to a loved one that’s passed on and they see that ghost I’m not a great believer in the um famous ghost like those mediums you see like I don’t know George Washington and Elvis and whoever I’m not a great believer in them some hauntings are residual so there are a repeat of that time Loop and they will just continue to do that without time usually when there’s been like a murder or there’s been something so traumatic at that spot that that energy has been trapped there for that moment and it just continues to play out you’ll get reports of Roman soldiers or you’ll get reports of pics or these blue men or brown boys as they call them and they’re very early Brits so energy if we look at ourselves as energy because we are and it doesn’t matter what your belief is God regardless of what God is is that original energy ball and you come out from that and you have this life and when this body goes you come back to that source and then you may go out and in again depending on what you want to do your energy you’re allowed to do what you want with what you want yeah so the way I look at it is if we’re experiencing something in our homes it’s more likely to be to do with the land or the home so let’s take Chrissy for example Chrissy ended up living in a house that she was born in or parents owned it and the activity was so bad that they left it after two years and they sold it to another lady 23 something years later Chrissy buys it with her husband without knowing that that’s where she was born as a child and I asked asked her when the first amount of activity happened and she said within the first week of me being there and whatever it is it doesn’t like men so her first husband was lovely until he moved to that property and it was serend depy that brought her back and when he was there he was awful and they split up and when he left he went back to his normal self and that happened with the second partner as well fortunately she’s with a better partner now and she understands what’s going on more at the time that the house was built there was a crash out at sea and a number of children died in that crash and the boat pilot and the boat pilot was called Edward Burton and his son burnard died on that boat and there was other small children that died and those children had the same name as one of Chrissy’s children so he got that Serendipity as well she knew herself that it was the old owner she could feel it and she said he’s really unhappy but he puts up with me because when she took the home on it was to rack and ruin and she’s done consistently over the last 23 years she’s done it up so they coexist together she has the same love for that land as he does yeah so you got a lot of or activity going in the house and some dark shapes and you see people looking out of the windows but it seems to be activity that’s just playing out so when the children are around pardon me when the children are around and they’re playing and there’s a happy atmosphere why wouldn’t those child childhood ghosts that have died out there in the sea come and and be attracted to that energy or to chriss’s motherly energy so we go back and look on ancestra and the burdens that died in the boat are related to the pets that built the house and it’s the only house out there for Miles so I think that those two families are still in that home and Chrissy and the boys are picking up on that and because Chrissy can do automatic sketching she’s been sketching and moving Souls over one at of a time but that’s what she’s doing privately now we know that there’s nothing demonic in the home it’s just a dark energy she’s let set her boundaries with him she’s told him marks acceptable and I kind of taught her how to say right no you got to wait one at a time and it’s got to be on my time and she will sit down and she will draw them and listen to their story and then she will pass them on so that’s that’s for her to do from now on so no I think I should if you wanted a quick answer no I think you see goost regardless from Che the ladies all the way up to there was a boy died when I was at school I’m not going to say his name but um one of the lads when we told him that this lad had passed away he said he can’t have done seen him this morning and we was like you can’t he said I did I had a conversation with him he was like he was dead by then he was dead he was already dead and he was convinced that he’d had a conversation this with this lad and this lad was like no I’m just waiting the to be out later at break you know strange want to know right let me have a beach through here got no more questions I’m going to start talking about do man right let me just get me notes up so Phil stoken Trent staffer as we know is a massive area for Dogman reports um mining land all of staish is heavily mined it’s like the northwest of England so can chase Al LA’s probably got about 30 cases of werewolves or werewolf like Dogman like people have seen them with two eyes and made that report not all to me to to lots of other different people so it’s an area where we know that activity there’s a lot of ministries of Defense land there there is also a number of historical ancient burial SS that have been Disturbed or built upon so you’ve got that kind of activity stored up you’ve also got and you have done for an at least five decades that I know of got people going down there on a regular basis as paranormal teams asking for things to show the themselves looking for werewolves looking for Dogman some NS you know doing whatever they can to bring them forward to make the video or get the you know the photograph for YouTube and then they go home and all of that energy is still there and then ordinary people who go on there I’m a great believer that you’re going to see something when you’re relaxed so if you you know you’re driving and you’re automatic pilot or you’re riding your bike or you’re walking the dogs or you’re with the children walking through an area I think you’re more likely to see something because you’ve turned that front bit of your brain off and you use your animal brain you’re an automatic pilot like when you’re fishing or when you’re knitting when you do something that totally absorbs you and turns off your brain even if it’s being on your mobile phone if that’s what turns off that modern brain then you start thinking with the other part of your brain and you will tune into the peripheral all around you your body will pick up on more things psychics will talk about it in so many fancy ways it’s your in it’s your intuition the same intuition that went oh [ __ ] there’s a man over there in that bush of I’m not walking past it it’s the same intuition that you think I don’t feel right in this area there’s something off about this area all there is she picking up and it something off about that area somebody could have gone down there and done a ceremony without anybody knowing and just gone or you’ve got somebody who’s committed a murder down there or a serious assault do you get what I mean and that energy stays within that ground and then people go consistently disrespecting that place you go lie down with that yeah then obviously going to have all of those things and can it Chase has to no no so bidol is a little further north not by much and it’s the same kind of setup so it’s like bu Li so you sorry right Mark you’ve got um if for anybody wonderers WHYY dog’s going mad M Dog thinks his chair is M dogs so it’s my chair for working in he never sits in it ever until I sit in it and then he’s like Oh no you’re in the chair you’re like but you’ve never sat in the chair you all over there in my seat and it’s like no but you’re in my chair she just lay there looking at me now like get out of my chair he won’t sit in it when I go when I get up a move you won’t get on it I don’t know where he gets it from certainly not from me yeah so bolf right so when he gets in touch with M it was a good 18 months ago and he reached out to me and I knew he were nervous I could tell and he said that he’d had a number of experiences and he wanted to talk to me but he wasn’t sure how to go about it and it’s like that’s absolutely fine just jop a few things down on a list so you know you can remember we work out way what’s comfortable for you so some people want me to phone them and other people want me to they’ll leave me voice messages and I just type those voice messages out and other people will write it out and I’ll add you the bits in like what the area is like and what other the reports are in the area and stuff like that so when he did finally contact me it was um just ring me Deb we’ll have a conversation so that’s what I did so I said to him do you mind if I I take the call I said it’s just so I don’t forget anything because sometimes so much information comes out that I would forget it and he was like no that’s absolutely fine so what I’ve shared in the last two episodes is the transcript of those calls that we had over a number of weeks so I realized that he he was young when he had his first experience down there he was with his brother and they experienced to something and he had a weird dream as well about this strange dog and I thought his dad had experience down there with his uncle and they were young children and he had an experience down there when he was younger and then obviously that’s followed through until he’s an adult maybe it’s his connection to that land and someone I’ve been working with over the last two weeks Willow I’ll bring her Cas in later asked me the same question could it be that when we our children and we are playing in an area do they see us without us knowing are they there and we’re there and we just don’t know that they’re there and they may have watched Us aund times so when I was in the park did it see me before that day that’s just hit me that Willow that’s just hit me I got the feeling of it I don’t know if that’s good or bad Joe weeks has to question before she said debie if you could not if you had the choice of knowing what Dogman and Bigfoot are or I was never knowing what would it be and I said 100,000% knowing because I think it’ make it better but sitting about thinking about it like that the idea that I’ve been watched without being me knowing is is creepy it’s like it’s creepy is it it’s it’s not it’s just creepy it’s just the idea of it that they do they have they watched Phil since Phil was a kid on that land cuz his dad grew up on that land so it’s like third generation probably more in Alla and you just like the same for days there same thing and she’s on family land you know and she’s had strange dreams like prophetic dreams knowing that animals are going to be sick and then they are going to be sick um and one of my ancestors poor Mary Butters she got called a witch CZ that because she was prophetic she could tell them that the animals were going to die and then she would make a potion up that would cure the animals so they called her a witch now they call you a vet but back then and you can charge for it and all now they didn’t burn her at the steak or anything like that don’t get me wrong but she there was a couple of people died when she did a spell um in in the house but now when you look at the art opsy reports I think it was carbon monoxide poisoning and the family I don’t why I did I laugh that’s not even funny but it was cuz she got blamed for killing him with this spell but now when you look at it through her Modern Eyes it’s like oh my God that the chim’s been backed up and that family had been suffering with those effects for several days and she was trying to heal them and you can’t heal them from that can you if it’s a back up gim probably burning wet wood or pine or something so like that’s how they died so they didn’t kill her like but she had prophetic dreams and lots of people do lots of people have dreams about them so in Phil’s case the family that owned the land were called the bolf family and when you look up bolf in Old English it means to live beside the wolf and their family crest is a wolf with an arrow in its chest and it’s bleeding and I thought that was really a strange serendipit considering the amount of reports that are in that area cuz there isn’t just Phils CU somebody else got in touch with L strickler and he was poaching and his Lun boats of him and his two daughters and they confirmed that Dad was only out 10 minutes and he come back and he’s never poached since um and this chap that I met when I was at canuk had said his friend was doing the same thing and he’d heard this awful throy rumbling growl that he could feel you know and Phil heard that on a coule couple of occasions Growing Up So on one occasion it came from the holly bush and it kind of Shook and this this awful horrible growl came out and is it connected to him like that Billy’s just asked in the chat is it the same thing with like the Irish banshe is it connected to some fames yes I think it is Billy I think it is I think it doesn’t matter how many generations you still got that blood don’t you you’ve still got that bloodline I got upset today cuz I seen that article about I can’t pronounce it the one that’s t m um where they killed all those babies because both M me and Mark’s ancestors came from that Village so it had a personal thing to it it kind of upset me a bit so was just I ha the English kind of things really mixed up when you’re from England but you’ve got Irish roots and you grew up through the troubles and it’s just it’s hard it’s really really hard but yeah I’ve worked with cases with Americans B where they’ve seen seen the devil dog or they’ve seen the wolf dog or they’ve seen the Banshee but they might be Seventh Generation from Island and it doesn’t matter it he has a whole drink B I need a drink it just doesn’t matter it’s in your bloodline and that’s all there is to it yeah please Dar I just think certain families live on the land and are connected to that land and they kind of tune into it when they’re relaxed but I think it’s harder I honestly think it’s harder if you live in a country setting it’s far harder to report something like this and it is if you live in a town and and I know that might sound mad to some people but farmers will rip the [ __ ] out of you you know if you sell you m down the farmers market that you’ve seen a dog manlike creature they just going to rip the crap out there a lot of farmers don’t believe in big cats even though other farmers in the area have seen them it all depends on how hard it is for you in your circle so it must have been hard for Phil because even when his dad said to him you not get scared when you’re down there he said no CU he didn’t want to tell his dad what had happened and then we have I want to speak to you about Willow all got in touch with me from a place called Brown kovera um aome has got me give me a minute we might get no oven lights tonight look at that Sky you see it right so Brown C over let me just check I think it’s Ken oh I want to I want to get it right so I’m not doing it right no oh someone’s got me Hampshire Hampshire not so very similar situation to Da very similar situation to Fred very similar situation to Chris got on Old Farm on farmland and she’s a young kid she’s on a bike and if you remember when I was doing Phil earlier we we were talking and he said he had the dog out one night and he was on the on the walk so the walks Al like they they go all the way down the UK and they made for people to ride the bike or like take the kids for a walk and then usually on like old railway lines that we don’t use anymore and he was down there and a young girl who was running with her headphones in in the dark said something had tried following her down that path and it had really frightened her he took her back to her car so she was okay and he said he went back to the area and he seen something go behind the tree and it had yellow ey shine to it know a lot of the Dogman reports have yellow eye sh like on Winter Hill and those two Lads going up um and they almost stood in a kill and it with a sheep and each chested been ripped into two I said they saw yellow eye shine and it was about 7 foot tall and they had this rumbling growl at film fil mentions that was just inside them it was he said you could feel it like you could literally feel it and you could hear it going all the way back to the car so I am a great believer in researching your own case before you get a team in or you get people in the GoPros or any of that what’s majorly important before any of that is that you are safe so what’s the best thing to do send a team in with load of Kate and Camo and and really like bike up the activity for you while they bug it off home and do their YouTube editing and then you’re left there with all of this going on or do you think right I’m going to find out what they for myself cuz that’s what Willow did she said I had no idea Debbie what that thing was I saw when I was a kid I don’t know what it was but I came across your YouTube as an adult and I sat and I listened and I thought right let’s look at the area what is it about that area that could me and I possibly saw him so she’s playing out down there there’s very few houses it’s very rural she’s on a bike she’s riding a bik and she said I’d go that way to get the school bus backwards and forwards um and she said I never took an interest in the abandoned Farm never I just used to ride past it and then this one day I didn’t she said and I looked and as I looked there was a long stable block and he was just stood there and he was a Wolfman and he was stood up on two legs and he was a wolf man and she said he was annoyed to see her it was like oh it’s you she felt like there there was a recognition there like it recognized her and it was annoyed that she was there there was another time when she was playing with a friend when she just had this overwhelming feeling of go and she didn’t want to explain it to her friend so she said yeah you know like uh chasee home whoever gets home first is the winner kind of thing just to get out of there so she starts talking about how she played there as a child and she said there’s an ancient Barrow in the field and in the woods where we used to play there’s a a CIT an abandoned C from the old church so there’s been something on that land like I think I think got it down to the 11th century something like that PRI land she’s got all of those things we speak about and she’s tuned in and she’s seen it so kudos to her she’s gone and looked at it herself she’s looked at the layline the spine of albon goes right through buil where I was goes through bidle where Phil was it goes through where Willow saw her a creature right the way through goes right through it so there must have been something special about the area wouldn’t have been back going out of our way to build ancient barrows there if there wasn’t something special about the energy there I think he is connected to the land there he’s ancient he’s his oldest time I think he’s upset at the destruction and I don’t mean like mass population I mean the fact that we no longer gift or meat at that burial site cuz that’s what we would have done back then that’s how we would have respected the land and kept it you know right and a child isn’t as tuned out as an adult so we should never poo poo a child witness because they haven’t been taught by Society to to just ridicule everything out of the ordinary children don’t see color they’re very accepting of everything so if people are going to see them they’re going to see them when they’re children and I find it’s hard for the childhood Witnesses because people say oh it was a child it was probably your imagination and you should never say that to a kid never well she said she had no knowledge of werewolves or anything like that when she was six she lived in rural England like let’s be honest folks we had two TV channels then BBC One and BBC 2 and we only got kids programs on a Saturday or have to see it at past 5 do you remember and in were crap they weren’t about werewolves or anything like that yeah anyone from you UK will tell you that so it was only later on as a team when you started to see things like Goosebumps and stuff like that then you think Jesus that’s what I saw that’s that thing that I saw and she kept saying to me do you think he’s seen me before it was a great recognition to him but then she speaks about times when said I I didn’t like that Woods I wouldn’t walk in that Woods cuz when I was in there I feel like something was watching me and then she said that sometimes when she was in the bedroom she’d feel like something was watching her from the Hedge R so that’s three events she hasn’t put together until she’s watched something and it’s gone and that’s what happens that’s what happens and you think oh my God it all kind of makes sense now I know the area I knew it like the back of my hand I was complet she like she said but then you could just go out and and nobody worried if my parents didn’t care where I was as long as I come home for me too I was fine so like you just used to wander and go where you wanted it was it wasn’t like it is for us especially in the countryside there was no one out there she was safer there than she was in the town but she’s seen him and she’s had to carry that with her throughout life and try and like not think about it push it down because it didn’t happen that’s what I did just push it down and pretend it didn’t happen but your brain still clocks 24/7 your always got that PTSD thing and like she said she feels like she can breede now just for sharing it and for look for these pointers like right could it be connected to me or my family how you know are we do we know that land yes we do so that’s the first box ticked is the area known for Paranormal Activity yes it there was a massive battle there wasn’t there um and loads of horses were like killed to make a barricade and the amount of work she’s done in it is amazing and I’ve sat down and I’ve written it all out and you’re going to get it next week so you’re going to get um I think some of you have heard a little 10-minute one but I’m going to do an in-depth hour one because so she’s found out so much information so for me it’s i’ be an idiot not to include it wouldn’t I so you you’ve got the rivers so if we’re going to say right there par the Paranormal creatures there is enough spiritual areas down there that they could be connected to in that tiny little Enclave there’s six churches modern our old so the the PRI wanted that land for a reason yeah so then they would like banders off it which is clearly that’s happened and it’s become arble farming land now but that land’s still the same underneath and she’s still connected to it because she had the food off that land it’s no different to somebody Living in America who’s can trace their family back Generations that have lived in an area you are more connected to that land than someone you know who was just a visitor there or just been there for 5 years or something you know the place inside out and sometimes we tap it into that energy it’s why people see Wendy goes and things like that it’s because of the land it might have been an incredibly sacred place and now we’ve built upon it so there’s a new set of houses on it or there’s a new strip mile on it or something like that and we don’t realize in modern times that we just disrespecting The Land by doing that but in the UK it’s a big trigger because like I said earlier there’ll be places where you get nothing no report whatsoever for hundreds of years and then the government will open an mod site or they will dig or build and the next thing the activity starts up again or it can be a person renovating a new home so that farm might have stood empty for 100 years and then you move on to it like Chrissy did and you start to renovate it and you get a bit of push back well it might not just be the ghost that’s inside the house you’re getting the push back from there might be some Crypts you connected to that land that he not happy about your presence and people say we they don’t see them in cities and towns they do the majority of cases are on Green Belt land which are on the edge of Urban Development so on that Farmland out in on Farm Fields where you go and want your dog you’ve got more chance of seeing them there because we’re encroaching on their land Charlotte saying in the chat that she observed a large white winged creature wasn’t a bird it was under the full moon months ago um she couldn’t identify it in I’m not sure if it in the UK or not Charlotte you’ll have to let me know but there are five um moth man’s a wrong word isn’t it when when we call them moth man some people describe them as more owl like so like the the wings are feathered but there are some that described as almost batlik but humanoid up on two legs with wings so like your typical moth man in America but in England we have the two cases in Cornwall uh a very famous one and on and another report we have the vulture man of the pentland hills back wied monkey bird in Kent I think that’s Seven Oaks area one in he down there Joe Joe so that’s five five humanoid ones the color white stands out cuz that’s very rare normally when you it’s something in the sky like a pterodax or something like it’s very dark in color and it stands out about against the sky but no I’ll have a look in me notes for you and I’ll see what I can what I can drum up but that might be a new one in me but people in the chat might know um and I don’t want to ask you obviously publicly where you from I can see people in the chat talking about big cats and we’ve had some recent DNA studies now and now what they’re saying is ah right I know it come back as leopard I know it did and I know it was Bob on and perfect but what might have happened is what might have happened is that might have been a hair that’s come from a creature that’s in the zoo and they’ve smuggled it out well right okay so there are no UFOs there’s no such thing as ghost cpses don’t exist and there’s no leopards in in England so like unless we get a management scene together I tell you what happens with cats and it gets right dangerous and it’s already happening they go from being out in the the Wilderness in the hdes right where they just taking deer or something every now and again and then it’s farms and they start messing with cows and Sheet well that was the 2000s now it’s people’s Gardens people are reporting them in in towns because it’s a breeding population we are very small island and male cats have a big territory there have been a number of policemen attacked by large cats there’s been some children attacked by large cats two old age pensioners have’ been attacked by large cats 15,000 reports of large cats over 15,000 sheep kills in one year with that bite to throat that a big cat does but our government will tell you there are no large cats in the UK anywhere and it’s absolute Madness so now you’ve got dog walkers who contacted me and saying Debbie it wasn’t scared of me it was approaching me I think it was hunting the dog I think it was actually coming after me dog that’s worrying cuz that’s not normal cat behavior I know we don’t have a m in the UK but I have a lot of American friends and they’ll say like you can hike for years and never see a mountain lion don’t really interact with humans to try and stay as far away from us as possible you know but that’s not what you’re hearing here in the UK um massive amount of sheep kills we winter alone I mean I’ve trying to think Michael said be some very disturbing images from Winter Hill it looked like a day that had been peeled I literally been peeled of its air so it was just like sleek and it it was really creepy and I thought oh I’ve never seen out like that before it did look cuz you get a lot of sheep kill don’t get me wrong and sheep are D the like the one animal on the planet that tries to blow itself up on the DA they are a bit stupid sheep but you see some kills where you think that’s not right that’s not blow that’s not fell and broke its leg it’s not tipped yeah like it’s had its head red into a into a stone wall or spine’s been completely Twisted a lot of those chaps on Winter Hill the rib cage had been pulled they said they were still seeing coming off it they almost studing it and when you’re up there there’s no light up there I mean I have to say you’re 1100 ft up so there’s no lights or anything up there other than the moon that’s your main light everything else is way down in the valley in the towns and it’s tiny little tracks that you’re walking on so like animal tracks and stuff so you got to be pretty shooted I couldn’t do it you got to be really shooted when you up there and people see things around that quarry all of the time um we were up there during the night weren we oh it was really bad with mozzies though it was bad it was like Alaska it was just mozzies everywhere you move could you so we just stayed in car for a bit but we were watching bats I went cuz I wanted to watch the bats cuz I like watching them it’s a warm night and they’ll swoop over the reservoir and back but you see the animals have a pattern so you can tell when the bats are going to do that and you can tell them when the the The Hours come out what if they do that with us what if Crypton know our daily pattern so well that they think oh I’ll be asleep by half one but MK want did it for me years ago I said to him can you get from our house to where I saw that thing without being seen and you did it didn’t you yeah and it took him 40 minutes that right and I said you remember I said to you how did you get over the road any minut just wait till there was no cars there’s only one main road he just whipped over that and he did it that area there it’s now building 5,000 houses on it so that’s gone like cuz they’re digging on it and for the first time ever we’ve got um horse fly problem because the day I’ve had the roote locked for the first time in Generations they just got rid of the day park and built thousands of houses on it so there’s no day down here but the day flies are here so they’re just attacking every human being and no one can understand why it’s happening and it’s because the D have had to divert they’ve had to go five mile that way to get back on that route that they would normally do that’s going to have a massive effect on their numbers and you’ll see the difference next year and the same thing’s happening in canuk chase you have to keep restocking the deer at canuk um because for all the pandemic levels across the UK there are certain areas in the UK where they can’t keep up with the de population so like you need a natural predator in that is there a way on YouTube of sharing a picture from your phone you have a look no I don’t want to start a poll simply because there’s I don’t know if anybody’s seen it there was um a photograph today wasn’t that came out it supposedly it was a an upright wolf it look like a wolf it look like a real wolf and it looked like it was either running and they caught it a really good angle so it looked like it stood up on two legs or it was a wolf that was stood up on two legs I’ve got it in my phone I don’t know how to share on YouTube to show it you and it look like a typical wolf yeah dog like wolf but it was up on two legs Brian shared it on his Facebook and a number of people have seen it so I thought right I’ll have a look into the background of it and I’ve run through there’s nothing it pops up on Instagram in April um was the first time that it went online um on somebody’s hunting Instagram account so it could be legitimate it hasn’t been messed with or altered or anything like that it is a legitimate game cam capture but it could be a wolf in Flight as he went like when they they running and it clearly can see the camera Mark said it looked like the camera had startled it didn’t you and there is a motion blue on the front legs and that’s why I thought maybe it was mid run when the camera clicked and went off me I don’t know don’t know what it’s like I’m not a wolf on I can’t tell you but if I was wondering along and the camera went click up you’d have a f of me that would you yeah don’t know but yeah it’s a pretty good in but if anyone knows anything about it get it up on Facebook so I can have a read of it I’m down or know because when you can’t find the original Source it’s dead annoying like normally it’s dead easy you just Google run it you know you put it through inore or something it goes ping you know this is from a documentary in 2012 and you think ah you’re lying to you can’t do it with this one CU I’ve never I’ve not SE it’s not been out on the internet anywhere before April 2024 so it probably is a legitimate capture but we don’t know if it’s just a a wolf running do we can’t we we don’t know right let me see what else I’ve got in me notes one sec so joh yeah I’m going to have to go now don’t know things to say any question oh there’s a question I can see it one second things for work do you know of any Bigfoot reports in abdine Scotland I do one second let me get my map up for you there’s a number of them quite a number of them Scotland has a large number of wild man reports and they are pretty well spread across just one sec that’s a bit slow We map you slow for you now so from like the East Coast or the West Coast there a number of we follow those mountain ranges but they mostly follow the esteres so like from the rivers it’s saying a lock so a lot of them will be clustered around so like the mor for area there’s quite a lot of reports there one sec right abine give us um put a town name in for me put a big like what’s your nearest Big Town that’ll make it easy for me cuz there are a lot of reports and I’ll watch I put aine in yeah toins and Banker I know these ones toins and bank right another area where you’ve got ancient Standing Stones you got the bankery stones so you’ve got a number of people over a 30-year period that reports seeing let me get the description for you word for word so 1994 July you got two local men Pete and George and they’re walking through the forestry track in the woods in toins abine when the men were nearing the end of the track Pete saw a dark figure run from the trees on the left across the track the figure disappeared into the trees on the right of that side of it he at first thought it was a man but the figure left a strange forboding feeling George did not see the figure and was bil busy telling Pete he was imagining things when a face appeared from the side of a tree George was chilled to the bone as the face he was looking at looked human but was not human it darted away just as quickly and for some reason George threw a large Stone in its direction the two friends then left the area feeling somewhat unnerved a few weeks later the two friends along with the third man they’ brought for added numbers um was to have an encounter with the creature as they were driving along the road into toins approximately 2 miles away from their first meeting in the witness’s own words they said suddenly from the side of the road there came this great muscular hairy figure he was bounding Out of the Woods which started to then run at the side of the car at one point it caught up with the car and run alongside the vehicle it was seemingly not out of breath and it reached speeds of up to 35 miles an hour Pete described the creature as strong and muscular with red glowing eyes a thick body covered in hair it was about 6 feet to 6’5 in in he night and it was jet black in color the figure ran after them for several minutes and then stopped abruptly in the middle of the road leaving the terrified car occupants to carry on their journey into the toins area the same or similar creature has also been reported by a lady who lives in one of the isolated cottages on the edge of the forest where Pete and George first saw the figure she’s seen it on two occasions watching her house from the woods and she described it as sometimes having red CL glowing eyes the only other report that I’m aware of is that of a man who caught a fleeting glance through high powered binoculars is it DED through a Forest Clearing hairless primer says hello there thank you for you do you want to know of any Bigfoot reports in abine so I’ve already done that one answer that’s not so bad but depending if you go over the co just go over to the coach it’s a tiny bit so we’re looking like bankery devonic area there’s two other reports there and then above you you’ve got the car cila reports um they’re quite famous cila is um charmain Fraser’s report she was 8y old she was on a grandmother’s land in the 80s um and she was walking down the farm track with the dog dog starts to kick off she looks up she sees a hairy man about 7t tall it look like he was examining a branch on a tree and she said thank God he didn’t turn around cuz he didn’t want to see his face and she turned around and she ran screaming and there was another time when now cile is in the middle of nowhere it’s all Sia Forest now and I think it was um more natural Forest back then because she said there was a time when they were picking raspberries um when there was a huge howl and all of the the adults kind of hurried everyone back to the house and grandmother was in the home once and and mentioned a ginger ra um now that was also said by someone who lived in the Mori forth area she called it the ginger ey she said it walk past the cottage every day and the best thing to do with it was just ignore it so it’s like they knew in the area and it was disgusted but it was you know no one had ever reported it to the paper or anything and you just carry on you carry on to dundy you’ve got two reports 10 years apart on the same road same mile of road so in dundy where you got that 5 miles roundabout no you’ve got two reports there over 10 years I think 20 2009 and 2019 two different men one driving South one driving north who see a dark hair covered figure about 7t Tall come from the trees on the left of the car and walk across the road and towards the T bridge and there is a website hairless if um how can I do it do you know how to check a community page if you want I will when I finish this I will pop a link up I’ve got a map every time a report comes in regardless of where it comes in from so I remember it I put it on a Google map just a normal Google map that anyone can access for free so I put the information on it so that I because obviously I’ve done thousands now how many hits is on this map 395,000 people have checked this map out so I can’t remember it so it’s me filing system so like when you said there’s anything in abine I can pop abine in and I can tell you what I’ve got in that area and you’re more than welcome to the link um lots of people use it some people are use it to go make videos and they just give me a shout in the videos some people are unscrupulous and just use it and don’t give me a shout and they pretend it’s their stuff but I don’t honestly I don’t mind anyone right any activity in sh one second sh you need to call it salop oh sh monkey yeah you’re going to want you’re going to want a modern one let me see yeah right we need to do two so let’s say Church threatens in the middle right so we’re going to do Canon Brook so where the Avon comes in the Avon River there there is a number young children who reported in the 70s and 80s that when they were playing in the woods down there this gray hairy thing would run and scream at them until it it but it wouldn’t leave the like the line of the Woodland it’ Chase into the line of the Woodland and then like stay there then on the other side of it cuz that’s what you want to see you don’t want to see like a just like a report in the middle of nowhere cuz that creature’s got to be walking in it and walking out so you should be seeing them in different areas so we’ve got what they call the stierson monkey man so you’ve got a number of um report like investigators that have gone into the Woodland and they’ve kind of done like a a circular swoop and they’ve walked in and then they’ve all kind of told what they but the exact location is being kept a secret so I can’t not for me that’s that’s what they’ve done but they basically they heard and saw a tall running figure that would basically like run in the peripheral V Vision so they’d look that way and then they’d hear it from the other side kind of thing they said it was human shape very dark and very broad across the shoulder um let me have a look I’ll go a bit further south I’ve got two new ones actually that I’ve not wrote out yet because they’ve only just come in um an odd sounding Fox is one of them and another one who said they saw the Shimmer man it was is about 8 ft tall and half as wide let me pull that up on here and I’ll tell you what that one is so if you look on the map and you see a blue p and you don’t know what that is that just mean I haven’t added the information yet I’ve not had a chance cuz I’ll either be transcribing it or I’ll be copying and pasting it and doing um there we go 2021 so this is South Shure hi Deb I’m contacting you um as you ask for more information about my encounter oh no this one’s in the n in the name why have I got it there I made a mistake I need to move that one this is from you’ve asked me to slice aren’t you before about there so the area where you were asking me about just north of abdine you’ve got this area no wonder I hadn’t done it I’ve put it in the wrong bloody place right I’ll have to do that when I finish here I’ll get on that one but you want me to read it anyway because it’s it’s a good one hi Deborah I’m contacting you you asked for more information about my encounter with what I would call a shimmer be that happened close to the N River in the highlands of Scotland as a listener to your podcast and a follower of your blog I now know sightings of Cryptids often take place near water this all took place around 3 years ago now 2021 I can’t remember the exact date but I know it was in the summer months my son and I decided to go for a nice walk around the river as there’s a path that takes you on a lovely circular walk takes about 45 minutes to an hour to go all the way around and as you’re going around the river there are two Bridges to use so you can cross over the water on your walk and the two other smaller Bridges which go over streams leading to the river it would be easy to miss these if you weren’t paying attention we walk around most of the river and we were approaching one of the little Bridges I mentioned which covers the the stream there are trees on both sides and directly in front of that behind a t a wall and a high fence is the Town Cemetery I’m always looking at plants and trees as a manam forager and I Tred to test myself to see what I can spot my son was talking away and I glanced up at a small tree which was growing right beside a little Bridge what I saw is hard to describe it’s like you see it and you don’t see it all at the same time I could see that the leaves move slightly but there wasn’t a breeze we kept walking and talking as normal and I could make out an outline up in the tree it’s quite small about 3 ft in height and was in the lower part of the tree thinking about it now it was a weird shape sort of like a squarey shape and I’m now wondering if it was something crouching in the tree I completely understand why people refer to the Predator film when explaining what they saw because that described it best there is a definite outline a shimmer if you will but you don’t notice it till it moves myself and my son walk past that being and continued on our path it made no sense made no noise or attempted to arm Us in anyway I should point out that I didn’t mention it to my son at the time but I’ve told him since then now here’s what I find strange I got the distinct feeling it was watching and listening to was not in a hostile or threatening way but more like that of a curious child this might sound odd but I just accepted it being there I know there are other beings around us and as a family we’ve had several experiences in the past such as encounters with Shadow beings UFOs Etc we hear Footsteps in the house when there’s nobody there so we do tend to just accept these things when they happen it becomes a type of normal experience it happens so often and instead of freaking out every time we encounter something we can’t explain we just accept it and move on right I need to leave that up so I don’t forget to go and change it when I finished is there a website we done that one haven’t we oh we’ve caught up on questions we’re doing really well so anym any want to throw any sounds at me before I up and go and sort this out understand why I’ve got it there near L because sometimes they get really really busy and I get mixed up and then they’ll be and I’ll think that’s where it went there are other times as well cuz cuz it’s touch screen I can move it around like that and sometimes I can touch it and I’ll move and account without realizing I’ve done it all right let me go back right to the KGB keep going till I find it I don’t know I can’t see it Joe I’m going to keep going back though uh yeah see where he said he was an ow type man that was a MN owl man wasn’t it that was charlot I can’t see it Joe any activity in Booking booking yeah one second we have this is a good one 2017 happened it’s a chat who that’s wrong sorry he is actually a he he uh hunts big cats so what he’ll do is he’ll wild camp in an area and far away from Camp he will set like a meat trap so like a a lamb or something like a decent amount of meat that he can leave there and what he’s looking for is if the cat doesn’t come in he’s hoping it’s going to come in over a number of days and he’s going to catch some pug marks or something like that so he’s got a low Camp so you’re not like not like lights and tent or anything like that but he has got a campfire you try and keep it as quiet as you can and as least human smell cuz he’s trying to get proof that there’s a big cat in the area and he said he suddenly realizes that something’s moving around the camp around him and it’s doing that typical thing where almost like a soier another witness from um The Forest of bowan was in the same situation so he’s in he’s in the dark he’s up on the Crags and he’s only got the fire light and they’ve not got fancy kit they’ just got like the bivy or the T you know the swag or whatever and that’s where they’re going to K and then they’ve got like a little fire going so they can have a bre and he said that he notices same as the guy in the CH something that’s moving around on the edge of that fire so it never came into the fire light and it would Crouch down he said like a soldier would in a Crouch position and then it would get up and kind of Fred Flintstone to another spot and this is what was happening in the chilon and then things started to get thrown here so at first it was like tiny Pebbles and then it was sticks and he said at that point I realized like cats can’t pick up lugs and throw them at you and it was something eventually black big when they were throwing and it was there really to frighten him um to get him out of the way just let me get down to where he described it he said it was very strange at first I thought somebody was having me on it’s a long walk there and back for a prank but I was certain someone was out there I actually would shout out to it I was that frighten at one point I B like I was a dog cuz I thought maybe it was a cat and then I thought maybe it was poaches trying to move me on eventually it all stopped and went quiet so I settled down for the night later that night I heard a huge bang and a crash near the tent I thought it was a gunshot going off but thinking about it now I think it was a tring being whacked against another tree I got up and ran out of there I went back to get me stuff the next day the camp was fine and nothing had been touched um and that was in mantel’s Wood let me just look up a little bit closer someone asked about a wing creature and in the area stevenage um in 1981 a number of girls saw what they described as a moth man um in blue bellw right ad asked do you think that the dog thing was a sh if so just what I don’t know you know I do CU I’m not sure on the shook thing there’s a couple of things going on like they like Banshee so sometimes it’s the black dog that comes when you about to die or there’s going to be a death in the family um and that can be like a really awful experience but then there’s the some families who say they see it and they know that it’s coming to walk their love went home it’s kind of their interpretation of the Beast that we say and then I wonder if some of the early historical sh reports were Dogman down on all fours there’s one by a policeman in the big Victorian days which is very rare to get somebody like that to make a statement and he call what he saw a monkey faced shook so it was down on our fours like a dog it was incredibly hairy but had a flat face like a human being so as he seen a wild man in down and on Force position there are a number of reports in the UK of bman so like something big a muscular down and on force that stands up onto two legs has a snouted mouth and ears on top of his head is that a misidentified crypted cuz we don’t have be here in the UK you know I don’t know I don’t know if how do I do it in the medieval times when they saw red eyes they would claim that it was a demon or a devil right so when them it’s just them two fighting on the couch take no notice knock off someone bit the ball too hard then it it depends on the year that you lived on it on on what you say so like I say back in the day if someone saw a black Amara shape they might think it was a witch or like later on in history they’d say that it was a Highway Man and like we might say like it’s a cow monk you know so I don’t know if it’s just we see the same thing but it’s history that changes the name of it because shook reports are not as prevalent as they used to be but Dogman reports are so is that leaving that phenoma behind and when we look back in history 300 years time we won’t talk about shocks anymore I don’t know I don’t know in the same way I don’t know if the wood wol of old is the same thing as British Bigfoot I think it is I think it is that’s my not that’s my mean I would be be writing the same description down just over hundreds and hundreds of years period another reason why Ministry of Defense land interest man because when he got serving soldiers that are making these reports to their superiors we cannot deny that the government must know because they’re making these reports to their superiors yeah so we just don’t know just put him in there for a minute yeah I’ll be finished in a second dog’s getting a bit Ry he wants scff his W but he gets like that let me have a look do you think we’ll ever have a time scale my slices asking will we ever have a time scale for when a will know I don’t think in my lifetime will know I don’t I don’t think we will I think we’ve been arguing over py since 1967 that’s when she was photographed so that’s 57 years ago and we’re still arguing about whether she’s real or not there have been numerous way too many to count photographs or video footage of UFOs the the government have the we know now we accept them like they’re there so it’s like it’s like disclosure is it but we still don’t know everything we only know a tiny little tip of the iceberg it’s the same question that Joe asked do you want to know what they are and all of those frequently asked questions like that what are they where are they from what do they eat how do they get birth if we had all of those answers do you think we’d be satisfied I don’t know I don’t think we would I think when I was speaking to the reporter from The Observer and he asked me what I wanted to do with my career and I said to him what I want to do in the beginning and what I want to do now do very very different things in the beginning I just wanted to prove that I saw that thing and I wasn’t lying so that was all it was about it was just egoo it was like I saw it and you’re not going to call me a liar I saw it and that’s it end off you’re not going to call me Li so it’s about that for me but then I got validation cuz other people in my area said yeah I’ve seen it as well and they made a fuss about seeing it so it was like I knew I’d seen it I knew I had but it doesn’t stop the stigma or the smudge that goes along with having that experience does it so so what I was looking for then and what I’m looking for now are two very different things and he asked me that question do you think you’ll know in your lifetime and I said no I don’t think I will but I think I’ve let a match I think I’ve done enough to make people think I’m going a minute she’s not shut up she’s been going on about this for so long yeah and she just keeps going on about it and we can’t shut it up kind of thing I can see a massive change and I said it at the very beginning of this live feed I would not have been able to sit on here 10 years ago and talk to you about crypto reports in the UK no one would have tuned it well very few people would have tuned in because they don’t believe that they are in it which is utterly ridiculous to me because if a crypted isn’t a flesh and blood creature or as we just said earlier there are different kinds of them and some of them are and some of them aren’t yeah I would be a fool to not listen to the ones that weren’t just flesh and blood and that’s what people want you to do they do that with Bigfoot as well don’t they or there’s certain people are like you can believe in this alien but you’re not allowed to believe in this alien or you can believe this is a demon and that’s a gin but you can’t say that about that and I just think well why can’t you you can because we don’t know any of it it’s all supposition and Theory so sit down with him so you can bang your headed against the brick wall for rest of your life and you might not ever get an answer and I’m all right with that I’ve come to terms with that I know what I saw I don’t know what he was um and I can’t prove any of the things that I think the frequently asked questions are but I’m okay with that now I don’t care if people don’t believe it doesn’t bother me but I do care about other people coming after me because there are kids out there are going to see it there are kids out there in cases are work at the moment where they’re only little and they’re seeing things in the bedroom or they’re experiencing things on walks with the parents and things like that so it’s still prevalent it’s still going on and I don’t want to be out in the woods anymore proving I was saying it to Mark earlier today and I don’t want to offend anyone when I say this because I’ve done this myself but my days have wandering around the woodlands trying to get a video or a photograph longer absolutely and you won’t find me doing that again and I know some people really enjoy doing that but I don’t see how that helps the witness and I’m not just saying that of top of me head it’s a process that I’ve gone through over the last few years that’s not about turning up at a place with a number of people with all of your K and you think that’s great but that’s about you how does that help the witness and I’m not talking about wa meeting the witness at the spot I’m talking about right we are going to go into the the woods now and we’re going to get a photograph of big photo we’re going to get a photograph of thing and that will prove to everybody if you’re a witness you don’t need it proven to you so that’s like that’s more about that team and I feel the same about some paranormal teams it becomes about the leader of the paranormal team and the evidence they found when people come and find me they’re beyond having evidence they don’t care they know what’s going on in their house it doesn’t matter to them whether a team comes in and catches it on EMF they don’t care they come to me for answers because they need to shut it down because it’s like I don’t not interested in any of that I just need to work out what’s going on here so I know that I am not crackers and I need to go forward with my kid so I think over the last year I’ve been like I don’t think I’ll put my boots on again and go back into the woodlands I’m not going to find him like that it’s not going to happen and it’s not going to happen if I’m meeting someone up there for a coffee you’ll have heard me coming an hour before it’s just that’s about people wanting to do that as a hobby and that’s not what’s work it it’s just not working for me that I don’t I didn’t see how it was progressing in any way so it’s all about about the the investigation itself rather than the witness and like that’s not where my skill set lies my skill that lies witness and like look at Willow so Willow has been able to go right are there any ancient Mounds in the area where I saw him yes there are is there a family connection to the land yes there is did I play out there a lot as a child yes I did you know is it was it as natural as seeing a sheep or a cow yes it was for her it was no they’ve tuned into each other at that time at that moment you know and it’s never left her and she said that there’ been occasions where she felt like she was being watched there occasions when Phil felt like he was being watched there occasions when Daisy felt like she was being watched you just continue it there were times when I felt like I was actually shadowed to um hazel in win you can see right through it all the sleeves have gone Brown and fell off so any HED roll that’s made out of Hazel you can see right through it in winter time and whatever that was it followed me down it and I couldn’t see it I could hear it moving but I couldn’t see it but it shadowed me right the way down until I got to where the lights was where the road was and then it stopped it completely stopped but I didn’t put that experience together like a lot of people don’t and then Willow’s G on and thought about that time when I felt watch from that place place and I think you’ll find as we go over the next few months and I bring more of these stories to you that it’ll be a similar kind of pattern we starting to realize what are in those areas that might be an attractant or remittance of some kind so what we might be able to narrow it down in future might be able to help people quicker by saying is a list of questions is there AB CD and you know how many of these can you answer is yes and then we can go right right we think we know what it is because a lot of the time then it’s just about setting about boundary but just like this is not acceptable to me or this is acceptable to me or this is how I’m prepared to go ahead with this but if you’re that person who needs all those answers then that’s what you should do you should get your boots on and hit the ground running because you your research has to be fluid so I’m not saying I’ve stopped because I’m an expert I’m saying I’ve stopped because that way of research doesn’t work for me I don’t think it fits my skill set I did all that back in the day so I’ve had my time running around looking at structures in the woods and doing all of those things and I’ve always said food stuff and animal Migration is far more important to know than any glyphs or stick structures that are out there if there’s no food source in that water it ain’t going to visit so it doesn’t matter if there Tee’s out there if there are no food sources nothing’s going to visit for those food sources but I’ve also been able to realize that some of those TP stes seem to work like pyramids so they enhance that energy of that area and I think that’s all connected I’m just seeing what this one is before I get going Aron said once upon a time it was common knowledge that these things are out there and it was per it was a purposeful effort to hide the knowledge from us and the question is why I could not agree more with you why aren’t we taught this in school why aren’t we told when we were at school that these stories exist I didn’t know about the woodw from school I didn’t know about werewolves are you know the a the ancient stories of wolf-headed men like the Scottish wolvers and the Irish wolves we didn’t know any of that did we because we don’t learn anything till the Romans come and then we learn from there on in and that’s not right that’s not right we had our culture taken many centuries ago so we don’t know that we’re supposed to fight for it are you supposed to know if you don’t know it’s out there the the very first story of albon as England used to to be called is about albon and her sisters who came from the Mediterranean and they M with the Giants and that’s how you get the public and that’s how you get that’s why we’re called albian after her so the first prophecy was that they were actually already Giants here and her and her sisters came and mated with those giants some of the oldest giant stories in the world come from carall you know and they’re written in written text so they’ve been at a time where people have been able to write them down I think Carell’s named after a giant in it if I remember rightly and then you’ve got the Gog and Magog there every culture in the UK has a story of an upright Giant and they also have a story of a dog-headed man and like the Scottish wolvers would feed you if you were sick or you’re real they would leave a a salmon or um something on the step for to feed from and all I ask is that you just left them alone in the Woodland you know or was it TR Clark oh I yeah is 12:00 yeah right K has just asked will I jod take over from me no not a chance will jod ever take over for me you know he might honestly Zane Zayn’s the one who soaks in yeah I’ve never kind of done that with them Cas it’s like if they want to they will won’t they but to them it’s a mum thing it’s like like your mom’s knitting a bit so my kids have just grown up with British Bigfoot they don’t know anything different don’t get me WR you’re dead proud of me but I don’t think I don’t think this is for them if you get what I mean it’s not what they’re going to do but zaye knows it inside out he knows it inside out he’s he does it already he ask his mates and stuff he gets stories off of kids who have seen things and that and he has a genuine interest in it and no I don’t I don’t think the girls will they’re all good at their own thing and it’s that thing that they good at that they excel in so that’s the way their journey is going to go in it but um I’m not planning on going anywhere yet kid promised I I’ll be 104 so I’ve got quite a while to go but yeah no I don’t I don’t think the girls will SEC after me no other people have asked me that in the past but I did say something to him the other day he said that it was dead sad cuz he couldn’t remember my dad’s face and he couldn’t remember what my dad said and I said to him but you remember what he felt like don’t you and he was like yeah I do I said well just think when you when I die and you can’t remember you can just go on YouTube and watch me went oh no no you don’t even speak right it’s all like an American oh what do you mean when you when you be in debat well you talk like an American you don’t talk like no no I was like all right okay then son I don’t know but yeah no P I don’t think there’s a dogging elsh who am I going to teach how am I going to sit down with somebody and teach all of this it’s impossible is it people say can I be Pa de or like can I what do they call it when like you to teach like where my prote or something where I I don’t know how to go about teaching somebody what’s up in here I don’t know other than doing what I’m doing now I don’t know but yeah maybe maybe it’s that’s not the plan cuz maybe the plan is I’m just here so other people do it so maybe I’m just the person who opens the door or opens the book for him oh I have WR I’ve wrote two books I never had besides me books um I wrote one when my dad passed away because I needed to get I Journal writing my thing it’s how I I get through things so when my dad passed away I just sat down lock myself in my bedroom and I just wrote a book while I worked through everything in my head and that was about child Witnesses de crypted and then when Co it and we weren’t allowed out and I was just missing nature so much I sat down and and they did um witnesses that seemed like the dog light creatures I’ve got four books sat there ready to go that I’ve not uploaded to Amazon yet so yeah that’s another idea I could do in it get them finished and get them up there but it just I don’t know I don’t think I’m here for that kid I honestly don’t I’ve always said that I don’t think I’m here to solve the problem I think I’m here to say you can look at it in a different way you don’t have to feel ashamed it’s okay to see something that other people don’t see you know know so yeah let’s just see what happens yeah you never know they might in a machine you never know do you just shove it on my head and then it’ll all go into this box somewhere and it’ll they’ll all know what’s inside my head and then that’ll be it I can do but now because my husband looks absolutely knackered I’m going to go and have a brew and a piece of cheesecake and I’m going to go put that report where it should be because it’s in the wrong place but I will definitely be back next next week at the same time so I’ll be on 8 we’ll do the premiere and then I’m back on again about quarter to 900 and we’ll do a live feed like that if you’ve got any questions for me in the meantime pop them in the comments on this or any of Me videos and I’ll answer them and I will also put a map link up um so that you can access that map if you can’t access the map my email is really easy it’s just de hatswell gmail.com all lowercase no dashes no dots no nothing and I’ll make sure that that that’s in the description for you so you can get a hold of me but until then if I don’t see you in the week I will see you on Saturday good night everyone
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That’s amazing news about The Guardian! So well deserved Debs ❤🙏
Lol Deb… you've done well to get back into circulation after the flu, but it still sounds like the doctor's waiting room with all the coughing. 😂.
Then you've got Mark and Roy mucking about 😉.
I think you're in the right space for you now, where you're not out looking for cryptids, but where you're trying to help experiences, and raising awareness that they're out there, and that there's something going on.
We did have a giggle at Pewsey 😁, and the guests were interesting, and I met some lovely people 👍
I can't wait for Willow's account next week… she's definitely on the right track with water sources, mounds and the like.
I reckon Phil might find that his area is similar…
Hi Deborah , it’s my first time here. I have heard Josh Turner talking about you so I finally found your channel. Also I’m incredibly excited about anything Dogman related, so I look forward to enjoying some of your videos. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Fantastic news about the Guardian, well deserved Deborah xx
Fantastic news about the Guardian, well deserved Deborah xx
Hi Deb been following you now for ages I commented on a video you did a while ago about my son and nephew seeing a big black muscle man watching them from a bush in warmwell holiday park he still remembers to this day it was in 2018 when I went down to look behind the bush they could see me from the shoulders up I'm 5ft 7, they both said that they could see him from the waist up 😮 no sigh of anything or prints.
Welcome back Deb! Missed you on a Saturday night xx hope you’re well lass xx