Kyle Kemper, Justin Trudeau’s Brother: “Fear Has Been Weaponized” Against The People – Ask Dr. Drew

“I always looked up to him and will always love him,” Kyle Kemper says of his half-brother, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. ••「 CALL IN & LINKS: https://drdrew.com/6262024 」•• But the technologist strongly disagrees with his sibling on major issues like vaccines and free speech, telling the Toronto Sun “people recognize that fear has been weaponized against them as a result of a coordinated global effort… To Justin I have a simple message: ‘Go talk with the people. Engage versus enrage.’ .”

Kyle Kemper is a technologist and author. He is the half-brother of Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada. For over a year, Kyle and his wife drove a “Kennedy24Bus” across the United States, promoting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s presidential campaign. Follow Kyle at https://x.com/KyleKemper

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welcome everyone today we are pleased to have Kyle keer here with us he’s the half brother of Canadians prime minister Justin Trudeau we ourselves are just back from British Columbia so I have lots of interesting observations about the Canadians and the Canadian system so this is a perfect day to have this conversation uh and tomorrow don’t forget we’ve got salty cracker making his way back here at noon it’s an earlier show I want to read you something that uh Kyle said to the son uh he says of his brother his half brother uh he disagrees with him technologist strongly disagrees with him on major issues telling the sun people recognize that fear has been weaponized against them as a result of a coordinated Global effort to Justin I have one simple message go talk with people engage versus enrage I like that we hear more from Cal keer right after this our laws as it pertain to substances are Draconian and bizarre are the psychopath start this he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography PTSD love addiction fentel and heroin ridiculous I’m I’m a doctor for where the hell you think I learned that I’m just saying you go to treatment before you kill people I am a clinician I observe things about these chemicals let’s just deal with what’s real we used to get these calls on Lov line all the time educate adolescence and to prevent and to treat you have trouble you can’t stop and you want to help stop it I can help I got a lot to say I got a lot more to say [Music] [Applause] [Music] summer is right around the corner and unfortunately so are those visible dark spots sun spots other blemishes that the sun leaves behind until now the Deep correcting serum from our friends at genell visibly Fades away dark marks sunspots scars and other signs of discoloration all over your skin you’d be amazed at how quickly you’ll see results now you can enjoy your summer sun Beach barbecues without the annoying spots and as always Jus cell guarantees you’ll see the results or 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very interesting going to Canada um on one hand uh I thought to myself this is a glorious country this is is sort of incredible the vastness of this country and then I had some other thoughts where I ended up thinking boy I’m uh grateful to be in this particular country so we’ll get to that in just a second but first if you owe back taxes speaking of this country pandemic pandemic relief is over and also along with hiring thousands of new agents and field officers the IRS has kicked off 2024 by sending over 5 billion pay up letters to those who have unfiled tax returns or balances owed to wave your don’t wave your rights and don’t speak with them on your own they are not your friends tax Network USA is a trusted tax firm that has saved over $1 billion in back taxes for their clients and they can help you secure the best deal possible whether you ow 10,000 or 10 million they can help you whether it’s business or personal taxes even if you have the means to pay or you are on a fixed 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F Kennedy Jr presidential campaign you can follow Kyle on X U at Kyle Kyle keer k e m p r uh also I believe he wants you to check out his substack Caleb I don’t know if I have the substack you can they can find it on his website okay you can find it on his website which I assume is Kyle kemper.com I don’t have that also is that true somebody help me with that you you know help me with that KY camper so please welcome Brer to the show hey my friend thank you for coming there that’s those are cool is mine okay do I I meet uh I meet criteria here we got both sides pretty good one I think I I I like that one I like all these ones too you know anyways right K swag good time and where can people find your substack uh so I don’t have a substack I’m on X at Kyle camper and we’re on Instagram at the Kennedy 24 bus Kennedy 24 bus and if you want to support the tour it’s patreon.com Kennedy buus and are you are you talking to us from the Kennedy bus I’m talking to you from the Kennedy bus in Valdosta Georgia and we’re on our way to Atlanta to go bring the Kennedy vibration to the CNN Fortress of darkness and yeah it’s going to be it’s G to be a great time how did you how did you get involved in Bobby Kennedy’s campaign what what happened what’s that Evolution like so Bobby was such an amazing voice and showed so much courage like standing up and speaking truthfully during the whole covid-19 scenario I’m just going to call it the scenario uh for the purposes of this of of this we call it we call it the debacle here just you know I think Mickey Willis did a good job with the planemic with his movies there I think that that one also works but it’s a little bit triggering I’ll just call the scenario for now it’s been 2011 scenario in in action enough uh so I saw Bobby I watched a video of him last February like before he announced I was like my goodness this man is actually qualified to become president at which point I made a tweet about that and then I was at the independent National Convention in Austin Texas and it was there that Bob signal that he was going to be running for president and you know we just been talking all about the independence movement in America for 3 days with leaders from politics from uh nonprofits and from the crypto industry and I’m a 11year veteran I guess you could call say of the Bitcoin blockchain space uh so it was wonderful to see all this convergence and then once Bobby announced that you know I was I looked to one of the people there I was like we’ve got to do this and like you know this this this is this is a golden opportunity and I had that feeling right in my gut you know sometimes that feeling and it felt like the Ron Paul kind of movement from back in the day but this time it was uh you know Bobby the remedy Kennedy and uh so you know I basically decided to kind of go all in I made a meme and then I was at UCLA giving a fundraising talk and I stepped outside for a moment and someone joined me and I showed them meme they’re like this is great I’m G to send this to Bobby and amarillis so his son and his and his uh his daughter-in-law and I ended up going and meeting them uh the next day and Bobby 3 is just an amazing human and he’s absolutely Allin uh and at that point I was like I’m all in on this and then at the Bitcoin conference in Miami we took my my bus which was the blockchain Across America to raise awareness for blockchain technology and the homeless epidemic in America we transformed it into the Kennedy Across America bus and had these murals painted on it and then you know it’s been an evolving kind of art car since then we’ve driven all over the country it’s been over a year now and we’re just commencing a 30 tour that is going to be something else so that’s the that’s the story and I’ve worked with the campaign I’m no longer kind of working inside the campaign I’ve worked alongside a lot of the Grassroots movement a lot of leaders in this space I just love what’s going on you know in the whole in in this whole space and you know unlike the other parties like this is new this is like a startup it’s growing it’s it’s uh it’s not perfect there’s a lot of growing pains but you know we’re trying to figure it out but that’s that’s the nature of this game so and I’m really grateful to be on your show here with you drew and thank you to Caleb and Susan and all your amazing sponsors for making this possible well thanks you’re very very fine very very very kind Kyle I appreciate that and than for that and you’re you much like so many the other people and the leaders in his campaign that I have met which are extraordinary people and I was talking to one of them recently and uh I’m laughing at myself I guess and um he’s a very smart man and he I was saying well this is a you know this is great the way this is growing as you said I I get the same feel for what you’re you’re talking about and I said uh you know does he imagine getting a position in you know somebody’s government or do he want to build towards 28 and this guy looks at me and goes no no we’re going to be president in 24 I thought oh oh I’m sorry I’m so sorry so so there’s still there is still great great uh enthusiasm and optimism amongst his amongst his team which I love to see I absolutely love to see that so congratulations on all of this um let’s let’s dial back and talk about this epidemic of fear if you want to call it whatever what the the global strategy of fear uh which I have uh identified also and and I’ve been Gravely Gravely concerned about it um I actually went up to British Columbia this week and um that’s what I talked about that’s actually what I was speaking on was this this tendency to get the mob going and the desire to manipulate and where that’s coming from and why we’re prone to this and why Mass formation is such a thing um before we dig into that talk to me about I don’t I’ve never heard anybody or at least ask you or maybe you’ve done it but I’ve just never seen it lay out your family history and your history with an incanada so so you guys are half Brothers you and Justin right how how did that all work and were you in can Canada for a while and tell me that history if you don’t mind so I’m a very proud Canadian um I grew up in Ottawa my mother is Margaret Sinclair who married Pierre Trudeau and then after Pierre Trudeau married my father freed keer uh Justin Sasha and Michelle are my three older brothers born to Pierre uh Justin’s 14 Sasha’s 12 and Michelle uh is 10 he passed it an avalanche back in 1998 a very tragic incident um come to peace with that uh the mother mother Gia took him in and never returned him he was never found uh it was quite uh quite quite the the situation and he was so pure uh like he would he was he was a he’s with us he’s he’s he’s a guide in my opinion um you know watching over and very grateful uh for to have him uh watching um and so yeah I went I I grew up in Ottawa I went to University in dalous University um I studied business my father was in real estate and restaurants um and you know I’ve always had an inkling for entrepreneurship and you know after University I worked in venture capital and then software development and startups um you know that took me to California for the first times and I was very very inspired by going to California I found that in California there was this attitude of yes as opposed to in Canada there was this in Ottawa specifically in Canada in general too there was this attitude of no so if you came up with an idea in California be like yes like here’s how we can make it happen and in Ottawa or Canada would be like no you can’t do that because of this or no you can’t do that because of this and it’s just kind of like a Deus it’s it’s it’s kind of a just is wasn’t a great vibration I really enjoyed that I want to I want to yeah I I get that I I want to dig into that a little bit because like I said we were just up in British Columbia this last weekend and it it’s different it is different up there um now were you raised with Justin were you around each other growing up or did you just sort of stay like distant family members I was uh I spent a lot of time with Justin you know he was my my older brother uh you know he taught me how to snowboard uh with him and and and and Sasha you know we would go on especially over the years we got older too I do a lot of like canoe tripping and uh and you know awesome experiences and and growing up too you know I look up to my look up to my older brother and his father was also quite old so Pierre was over 50 when when when he met my mother uh who was like 25 um you know at the time and then they had three children so you know my father was kind of a father to Justin and Sasha and Michelle and like you know we had our Cottage outside of Ottawa we’d be doing all sorts of fun activities and like you know and Pierre Pierre was Pierre was an amazing you know man in his own right as well um I didn’t know him that well I was kind of young he passed in 2001 so so so the the reason I asked that question is I’m wondering if you have any insight we’re going to now go to this conversation about fear what Justin imagine he’s doing when he leaps to these these interventions or at least he is convinced to do so uh that are so in your and my mind egregious overreach of what governments are supposed to be uh and really are reminiscent of Times Gone by uh and you know I heard somebody sort of articulate it was it was actually Mark chanes he goes he goes look when when presented with the the the choice you know do I jump in and lock everybody you know to use my authoritarian power versus start to listen to All Points of View to try to protect civil liberties and try to make some sort of intermediate interventions in this horrible epidemic that are as maximally uh beneficial with minimally adverse effect everyone leaped to the they leapt to this horrible thing which was use fear create panic and lock it down what do you imagine he was thinking when he did all that he wasn’t alone of course but but what what do you think he was thinking I mean I think it’s like back to this Mass formation kind of concept and all the people around him Whispering into his ears are all like of that same vibration of lock it down like we know what’s best for society um you know taking the general the like you know it’s it’s it’s this kind of this you know Global corporatocracy that has this vision for how things should be and Justin represents one of the spokespeople for it and unfortunately I don’t feel like he is the one who is actively making decisions uh and I think he signed up for the first many years of prime minister Dum um and then things took a twist with the whole covid scenario being Unleashed at which point he needed to play his role as an agent of the Matrix and so for us to give him all this power and think that it’s he was is like you know the root cause or making these decisions or writing these tweets or I just think right you know he’s he’s that’s he he it’s not what’s going on and he has been sort of co-opted by his infrastructure or something that their Mass formation became his Mass formation which is a reasonable reasonable thing but but it it you know as somebody pointed out to me who was leaving the previous administration in Washington and talking to some of the people coming in in the Biden Administration and it makes me wonder about your your half Brothers Administration as well she said um they sure do like to govern they sure do like to do stuff to the to the people you know what I mean it that that that does that there’s that tendency to want to intervene and do stuff as opposed to hey just create the create this infrastructure and let people live uh do you agree with that I totally agree with that and they it’s almost like they want to create this bilateral relationship between people and government as opposed to you know just being servants for the people and enabling strong resilient community and prosperity instead it’s you know it’s very much a domination strategy and like you know I would say Spirit suppression strategy and back to the you know the that the original topic where we were going down which was you know fear as a mechanism for control keeps people at a very low vibration of Safety and Security like maso’s hierarchy Safety and Security if you’re always worried about you know how you’re going to put food on your table or house over your of your over your head or or just shelter um you know you’re not able to move up up the levels into a more awakened positive spiritual state where you know you we can start collaborating and radically collaborating towards solving the big problems and shifting from you know honestly this this era of dominance and like strict hierarchy to you know this decentralized uh well hang on isn’t that interesting isn’t that interesting that Your Instinct that there should be less hierarchy is solved by putting the power out into the the the closest as you possibly can to the people for instance you know let local officials make decisions for government for the trash collection or whatever H let doctors make decisions for their patients you know I feel like the party that say your brother would represent also would like to see hierarchy less uh a part of the world we live in but they want to do it by invoking a hierarchy from on high which I find so odd yeah and then you know and and they like their uprisings but when they control the uprisings like you know when the truckers came to Ottawa oh no like that one we’re not going to engage with that one we’re going to enrage we’re not going to be taking big photo ops to like kneel like they did with BLM and like you know St George Floyd like no no no no instead they invoked you know Nazi imagery and staged a whole bunch of um scenes that then they projected uh into the mainstream to create this duality of of worldviews for many Canadians and many people of the world and that was on one side there were these like far-right Nazis like white supremist and then on the other side people were actually there you’re seeing wow it’s like truckers and people supporting Truckers coming together to basically have Burning Man in Ottawa where for 21 days they danced they celebrated they came together they participated they were immediate they left no Trace things were de decommodified and you know there were there was Radical self-expression and radical inclusion and it was all like on full display and it was really really powerful and you know it seemed like it was going to get to the point where you know it was going to peacefully kind of dissolve but yeah when when you see that then it’s like no no no no let’s bring in the Stormtroopers let’s clear this let’s get like you know these these these these terrifying images of you know horse trampling people like what is going on here folks anyways um I digress but at the core they can’t engage they can’t engage they need to enrage because you cannot engage when you’re defending a lie and that when you’re defending a myth especially a very large myth like the official covid narrative or other narratives which don’t stand up to scrutiny instead you have to just attack and smear any you know critics and try and you know not have people even listen to them like try and write them off use these monitors and labels to just try and turn people off like I remember when Mickey Willis came out with planemic 2 in doctor Nation planemic series.com if you haven’t seen it um that movie they tried so hard to make sure people didn’t even press play it’s like don’t watch this not worth your time it’s riddled with this that the other and it turned out it was like so informative going over the nature of how the whole thing was scripted and how you know basically with event 201 they War gamed and prepared from a corpocracy point of view how they would deal with all their Nations their nations of the world and how they would use fear of the virus towards stoking hope for an experimental vaccine uh that would come to the rescue as we’ve seen in so many movies like contagion and outbreak and blah blah blah whatever Hollywood you know I um was I always would sort of tell people to uh pay attention to the fact that you know your safety you know we’re we’re going to keep you safe is sort of how they are wielding their sword and I always remind people that robes Pierre his committee the committee that replaced the uh the first committee is robes Pierre’s committee I forget the first one was called uh but robes Pierre and his committee were the ones that carried out the terror they were the ones that brought out The Guillotines and and killed killed thousands of people and that committee was called the Committee for Public Safety I remind people of this over and over again this this issue of centralized authorities started with the Jacobin they realized how to do it back in the 1789 or 1790 by that point and that was safety and Terror those were the things that they used and then I have a quote from Benjamin constant who was a mid mid 18th century philosopher and he said um he goes you know what are you ready to spare uh they will say to us in what end is the aim of your efforts meaning the government the motive for your labors the object of all your hopes is it not happiness we leave the happiness to us and we shall give it to you that’s what the government was doing in 1850 no sir as we must not leave it to them no matter how touching such a tender commitment may be let us ask the authorities to keep within their limits let them confine themselves to being just we shall assume the responsibility of being happy for ourselves so when you start hearing them talk about happiness you know the cycle is complete because they’ve run the safety cycle hard they’ve done as far as they can with that so I’m expecting next to hear about happiness I mean it’s better than the safety angle I agree it’s better than the safety angle I think we’re baling the stay safe when someone says to me stay safe or even like safe travels I mean I get I’m on the road but it’s like I just say happy travels to people happy happy like you know let’s let’s it’s it’s let’s let’s try and let’s try and try and recognize there’s risk in this world and it’s okay and it’s man I father of six children it’s natural not only that that’s risky too that’s having six kids but not only is risk okay it’s how we Ascend to other to to something better if we’re trying to ascend to anything other than routine I you know and routine is fine if that’s what you want but if you want to ascend to something better there’s going to be risk there’s always going to be risk of all types Financial Risk physical risk you just driving on the highway with the bus it’s risky there’s risk and risk is good risk is good sometimes it doesn’t go well and people have different risk tolerances and we got to give them that but risk is not a bad thing it’s not an evil thing I want you to I’m going to hold you you want to respond to that and then I got to take a little break and I back go ahead so there’s a difference between like living in a state of fear and being conscious of danger like be aware of danger and take action to protect yourself against danger but being in just a state of fear that anything could go wrong like yes everything could end in A Moment Like no no just be aware of danger and protect yourself against danger that was like you know this idea that oh man they’re coming for our bloodstreams beware be aware and so that was like let me frame it for you Kyle let me frame it for you because Aristotle addressed this very thing right he was all about the golden mean getting the balance right and he said when it came to risk-taking you don’t want to be heedless heedlessness is not proper risk-taking and that’s what you’re saying risk is a balanced risk reward consideration in every move but the risk should not be zero if you want to ascend to something a little more productive or or more more um um evolved for the human Spirit that’s all it’s not zero there’s not zero there’s rarely zero risk in things even if it’s just going to school I mean you’re you’re dedicating your time there’s always risk okay so when we get back I want to talk about uh a little bit about about your Canadian oh look there a risk there’s man taking risk right there that’s what I want to talk about when we get back I want to talk more about the campaign and your role in it and I also want to talk about your compatriots and Canada and some of the things I observed at least in British Columbia it was at once glorious and disturbing so so I had mixed feelings as they say so we’ll get to it we’ll be right back joint muscle pains are exhausting and frustrating but I’ve got to over-the-counter medication I introduce you to that provides great relief using the power of check 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would love to talk to Jordan I uh I saw Jordan speak in Tampa Bay and he invited me to come see him afterwards and I thought I was just gonna be part of like the VIP kind of like you know show up in the line photo with him but no he like brought me right back and there was him and his wife and you know I got to spend uh spend some time with him I’m a a huge huge fan of uh of of Jordan and his courage and Journey as well um it’s amazing how many of like you know the people today have like some of our leaders have all these kind of you know different hero journeys of addiction or serious low points it’s like you know with Bobby for example with Jordan with Russell Brand like you know there is there’s Darkness but then coming out of it like sometimes you have to Lose Yourself or go through that almost that death rebirth experience in order to become awakened I guess you could say yeah I think that is true uh and you know when we were in Canada one of the questions that was asked of our panel was essentially sort of how do you find courage to to stand up at this present time and the one thing I said was look it once you decide what’s right what it’s the right thing you you can’t help but stand up you you can’t help it it’s it’s it doesn’t feel like courage it feels like just doing what’s right for what’s right uh and I’m wondering how you see that now what what is it you’re obviously you something has caught you what is it that you’re seeing that needs to happen well speaking your truths and right action taking taking what whatever you feel right like understand you know your word are really important and you can Shield yourself or use kind of cowering words or you can speak openly and honestly and truthfully and if you they take right action and have no there’s no you won have any regrets there like The Four Agreements you know the first is be impeccable with your words and so be impeccable with your words and understand that the words of others can be you know good or bad too so don’t make too many assumptions based on the words of others and don’t take the words of others personally towards yourself because people can blow you up they can also try and tear you down and just you know always do your best at the end of the day and take you know living by those and acting by those Four Agreements as uh what’s his name Michael Ruiz I think was the author’s name he said that’s how you know you kind of unlock the uh the God within you yeah and I’m guessing Bobby is part of that that recognition tell me about that and and what you’re thinking about the campaign these days yeah I mean just Bobby’s got so much so much courage and there’s this we’re at this time right now where with these two other candidates that are so polarizing and so dividing it’s like you know it’s this use the wordage and and he uses that word to describe other people not himself he describes me as courageous and that was so confusing to me when he said that I was like courage I to have a conversation with a a lawyer an environmental lawyer it takes courage takes courage to get up and it takes courage to dedicate the time and energy that he’s dedicated to this project but my bet is he doesn’t feel that it takes courage it just he’s just doing what he has to do given the current moment thank you all for waiting let’s get Kyle keer back in here we just had a technical meltdown I don’t know quite what it was uh but uh thank you guys thanks Tom cigar for keep me entertained on the rraam there you are so you let let me let me switch gears about to something a little different which is um Canadians uh I hadn’t been in Victoria British Columbia since about 1969 and it’s quite different now uh and the the you know it was you know British Colombians are very nice people are extremely extremely nice um they don’t quite have much like Europeans service isn’t quite a thing yet I mean they try they really do but they’re not sort of service oriented and there’s um like a pace to everything where no one steps out of line everyone walks at the same Pace everyone kind of has the same demeanor everyone kind of has the same quality in terms of their emotional sort of tune Attunement unless you know but right underneath this what this kind of seething anger that I evoked a couple of times and uh I I I wondered what that is are we into something good there you know when people have this pass of it’s like a passive aggression that’s just right there they’re at once delightful and don’t want to be they want to be liked and they’re lovely but there’s an aggression right right behind it uh are you do you know what I’m talking about yeah I feel you I think I I I I sense that you know it’s I think it’s like a a factor of you know going along it’s like going along taking the punches taking the punches taking the punches until you’re that’s what I said yeah I said it’s going along to get along everyone’s just going along going along and being happy and but but I feel like some of it is I wonder if some of it is the way the government conducts itself that it’s sort of you know over involved and and there’s too much um I don’t know collectivization or something where where people sort of feel like to be an individual or to stand out in in a way is a threat let me let me tell you Susan hates this when I tell this story but let me tell you where where this sort of came out the most for me I worked out in a in a gym a couple of days and uh the gym the gym etiquette reflected this which was once somebody used a piece of equipment that was their equipment that’s mine and it was a crowded gym and I I not really understanding this sort of thing that was going on I like an older woman was working on just a simple cable you know rope pull and she walked away from her equipment and left her stuff nearby but she was you know quite a distance from it so I slipped in didn’t change the weight didn’t move anything just want to do a set she came running over that’s mine I thought yeah yeah yeah I’m I’m going to kind of work in here no problem take me two seconds no it’s but it’s mine start screaming at me and I was like oh shit what have I triggered here and that’s the kind of thing that is right underneath which like we’re sharing everything until I decide something is mine and then you better sure as hell stay away from it it it so there’s some weird psychology I couldn’t quite get my head around but maybe you can help me with this I don’t think I can really help you with that but that is you know an interesting sounds old guy I sound like an old guy I’m not I’m just I’m not a gym guy I don’t I don’t understand gym etiquette i’ I’ve been to a gym maybe like five times in my life the world G me a stink eye too though gym is usually you share and you kind of let you you stay out of the way of people using higher heavier equipment but you find ways to share and use and move in and out of each other’s way and you know this gets crowded when we’re in it together to it’s like let’s go you have a you want to have a family like you know we’re we’re here getting healthy guys and good job good job let’s have some positive feedback Cycles but I don’t even want to share with it’s my machine so yeah it’s personal space so do is there is do you think they and the other thing there were some elections up there too as well and there appeared to be some change in the electorate a little bit not not massive not like what’s happening in France or Italy or Argentina but some people speaking up going we’re tired we’re tired of this we’re tired of the fear campaigns we’re tired of the overreach are you seeing that and does your brother know that do he talk about something massive something massive just happened two nights ago in Toronto so there was a special election and it was a riding or a district as the Americans would say a riding in Canada uh called St Paul which is a Toronto riding that’s been held by the Liberals for 25 election straight I believe and it was won by the conservatives so that is like a very telling sign and you know I heard a rumor from somebody that you know my that Justin was resigning on on Sunday just something that I saw I have no validation or verification resigning wait a minute resigning the mcon resigned like macron that cancels the government is it that kind of thing is does Canada run that way yeah it’s you know it’s it’s it’s you can you know as a leader of the party you know he can if permitted decide this is the moment to you know be be done like you know I we just lost one of our liberal stronghold seats in this special election that’s a sign of this you know the this the yarn can be spun to say okay this is the this is the moment when he could you know move and you know then it will be ultimately the party that decides this because it is of the PE of the Party by the party for the party both in America and in Canada how the system works it is not of the People by the people for the people and that is what I want to focus like you know my energies on is how do we restore the Republic restore our democracy restore our voice in shaping the world that we want to enable people to be civically engaged as opposed to showing up to a crooked election every four years making a single mark on a ballot and patting ourselves on the back um you know when nothing changes right and how how to how to emphasize protecting our freedom and our civil liberties and restoring the job of elected officials to the job of representing the electorate not the job of trying to control a bureaucracy or of telling electorates how to behave or how they ought to behave or how they ought to live their lives that’s the most bizarre thing in the world to me that people are interested forget forget doing that that they’re even interested in that is bizarre to me and that people would want that is also very bizarre now I I talked to a Canadian uh psychologist who essentially identified external Locust of control as a psychological phenomenon she wrote a book about Trump derangement and she was writing about how that’s sort of part of the setup for Trump derangement but that external locus of control people when they feel like things are done for them or to them they don’t have an internal locus of control they kind of like it when they’re taken care of by an authority so I understand I guess why somebody would like it why somebody would want do that to anybody is what’s mysterious to me well I think you know when you exist in a domination structure you want to be the Dominator like you know and when and when you know you get a pat on the back from you know the government or whoever’s in who’s ever whoever is really like you know shaping your worldview as a as a servant to the master you know the servant wants to become the master and so that’s the that’s the danger that’s what we have to be really careful about with shifting systems is that we’re just not replacing one master with another and you know back back to the point of the democracy and and like Representatives the reason why we had Representatives was in in our initial government constructs was because there was no way to carry a message from California to Washington DC quickly you know the the the Canadian which is the Westminster system of government and the US uh system of government were initiated in a time when electricity didn’t exist and the telegraph didn’t exist much less FaceTime or zoom and so the best solution at the time was to have one person represent your geographical region by going to Washington DC it’s it doesn’t make any sense anymore it’s time for an upgrade to the system and we can’t we’re not going to be able to fix this system by fighting it it’s time to start looking at new models that once adopted will just make this existing one obsolete as Bucky Fuller said but Kyle Kyle I understand what you’re saying but but the you know the Greeks had a form of direct democracy and many political philosophers through history well they do have direct democracy right and and it’s and it’s and that is one one place where it is working so you think the Swiss system is the way to go I mean I think we should absolutely try this notion of if you have a problem you go and you get 100,000 signatures and the whole country votes on it if you have a a solution you go get 100,000 signatures and the whole country will vote on there’s some thres but K we have that in California and what unfortunately happens is the people who want a certain proposition to go through completely mislead the public on what is in those propositions so they can push them through and whoever spends the most money tends to win and so the corrosive effect of money is just again rearing its ugly head and to me that almost more than anything is what I worry about the effect of the the relationship and this is what Bobby Kennedy talks about the relationship between corporations and Regulators the relationship between representatives and who’s funding their campaigns I mean this is a corrosive effect if we could get rid of that our system such as it is might work better and and Howard Schulz you know he entertained running running for president uh in the last cycle and one of the things that really stuck with me from one of his talks and he was the CEO of Starbucks for anybody who doesn’t know um was he gave the example that you know 90% of Americans could agree with a certain policy uh but if the you know if the Republicans put it forward it has like a 30% chance of passing and if the Democrats Put It Forward has a 30% chance of passing so it’s just it’s the nature of this Duality oppositional Force um well that’s another thing maybe the party system is not or at least we get the independent in like Bobby like like let’s not get into these yin-yang conflicts that are so ridiculous and you know and the other the other concept that was really interesting is the concept of Citizen assemblies too you know bringing together it’s almost like jury duty on policy bringing you know of the collective bringing in you know 50 to 100 uh randomly selected citizens or people of different of different backgrounds bringing them together to be educated on particular policy areas um by all different sides and then coming out with recommendations like you know in that informed approach and it that proves to be a very effective means uh towards policy recommendations as opposed to the current constructive policy recommendations which is uh heavily influenced by the Private Industry for their uh you know their motives which at the end of the day are profits because that’s this what corporations seek to achieve uh and deliver their shareholders and and what do you think it works in Switzerland because you know the Greeks have had injunctions against U you know direct democracies with more than like a thousand people or something that they always collapse I don’t know what the number is but there but through history direct democracies have always collapsed as they get big why do you think it works works for the Swiss and by the way and when I first heard how well it works there and how happy they are with it I thought wow it’s a it’s a homogeneous society and it is compared to America but it’s it’s three different countries it’s Italians German and French essentially getting along so it’s not really that homogeneous why does it work well and and Switzerland it’s and it’s a it’s a it’s a country of eight million people divided amongst 26 cantons and the Canton is this the equivalent of the state and the cantons hold the most power like it is really a local first governance model all the way up to the federal level where you know the head of state there it it rotates every year so and and also like within the system there isn’t a desire for people to become politicians like the career politician is not something that you know the Swiss seek to do it’s not like you know like America it’s because they’re they must not be making much money as a politician which is what I I’d love to know how they clean that up but um well they have a lot of very interesting things in Switzerland too they they have you know fines that are based on income um so like you know if you’re if you’re caught you’re passing on the right it’s a percentage of your income the speed limit is the speed limit so it’s like if the speed limit is 100 kilometers an hour it’s 100 kilometers an hour because that’s the speed limit I learned that Less in the hard way I was actually offer I did too I learn I learned that in France I Lear I learned that in France because they had Not only was that the case but they had video detection I got more than one ticket so it’s crazy but but let’s go back to the fear I I want to dig into the fear thing again the fear campaign and how egregious this was and and you know the mass formation I just wanted to pick your brain a little bit about what because I have my own thoughts about the mass formation and why it occurred and why we were set up for it and you we’ve sort of tilted it discussing why these people use these techniques you know to sort of control us and keep us down as you said but why were we prone to it what do you think m formation I I feel like it’s like Plato’s Cave it’s like the more you push something on people they’re just going to you know it’s easier to fool a person than it’s convince they’ve been they’ve been fooled so you know and and from a controlling point of view fear is a very effective tool to wield and you know to a to to an individual really aim to recognize when somebody’s using fear to coer you into doing some sort of action that should be an immediate warning signal that something is a Miss um and they’ve been trying to they’ve been using fear as a tool for control the Sun be afraid like you know the Earth be afraid weather be afraid food be afraid human contact connection be afraid like you know in during the whole Co they like seeing another being within six feet of another person be afraid uh travel on airplane be afraid cross a border be afraid uh speak up be afraid I listen people people one of the things people forget about is the fouchy and his team were saying at one point that you will never Shake someone’s hand ever again and you better get used to not socializing with humans and I was like you got to be kid what humans have to have this contact we must it’s in us it’s a it’s a meaning making piece of who what The Human Experience is yeah so I really I’m I’m angry at that still and they they use the mass formation yeah they use the mass formation they they used it um we were prone to it for some reason and everyone who to whom I’m sure if you’re like me raised that issue to they they will fight against it and then you sort of point out to them what happened in Germany in 1938 and their assumption always is well I wouldn’t fall for that I’d be of the good guys I wouldn’t have let them round up I would have been putting an Frank up in the basement uh up in the attic rather but the reality is no you wouldn’t have you’ve just proven it first of all you’ve just shown Who You Are by by liking this this extreme control and or Co to it either either way you’re not one of the you would not be one of the good guys the return of the Nazis well it’s it’s certainly the return of that phenomenology of of The Naz like is is a the nuo Nazi the Neo naazi if you will and you know they project so bloody hard that everybody else is the Nazi or the fascists they are projecting projecting they are our democracy is at stake when in the case of the democratic the DNC this nvo Nai party they do not want anybody to be on the ballot other than their commander and puppet um you know Mr M Mr Man um they don’t they want one option that is democracy this is this is very very dangerous yes I I agree with you and I think you are on to something with the newvo Nazi is that did that term just get invented this second or have you already been using that you just made it up right now okay newo Nazi I love it so just those of you that don’t know nvo nvo nvo is a French word for new uh so it’s the Nuvo Nazis and I like it it has a nice ring to it I’m going to use it if you’ll permit me let’s use it together uh so newvo Nazis but yeah the projection is obvious uh the to who was it the other day just said they they’ve never met someone a leadership that hates democracy more than the Democratic Leadership right now and they don’t even understand and so this is back to mass formation they don’t seem to understand that’s what they’re doing that they they are they are attacking populism uh I don’t know if you saw the um the work of Winston Marshall uh who went to at bat in uh he’s the one of the founders of Mumford and Son and he was I’m gonna I’m trying to pull up his words while we’re talking here he went to bat against Nancy Pelosi uh in Great Britain I believe that’s where it happened in event uh and I’m going to read you what he said about populism which I thought was so so accurate uh here he is populism it’s the worst here it is here it is here it is but here’s what he’s saying um I’ll tell you what is a threat to democracy it’s Brussels DC Westminster mainstream media big Tech big a corporate collusion and Davos the threat to democracy comes from those who write off Ordinary People as deplorable the threat to democracy comes from those who smear working people as racist the threat to democracy comes from those who write off working people as quote populists there it is uh I understand that populism has a history and its various things but the fact is you’re just take an aim at people’s opinion and their desire to uh exert their opinion at the voting box on representative government now I I understand you don’t like who the Republicans are running I understand that I get that but to condemn the people who are trying to I I by the way saw this in Canada you said there was a big vote two days ago I was there during the runup to the vote and that’s the kind of rhetoric that was underway and then you see the same thing in France where the the mainstream media will go it’s the far right it’s the extreme right I I’m not sure I think it’s people that are just tired of the newvo nais yes yeah and we just want to talk about things it’s like let’s just make talking great again uh where we can actually like you know have an honest discussion you got to talk to Bobby about your slogans you’ve got good slogans in you youve got let’s make talking let’s make talking cool again all right in the remaining minutes give me your pitch for Bobby Kennedy and then we’re going to kind of wrap this thing up I appreciate you being here today very much and taking your time away from your family and the bus why should somebody vote for Bobby Kennedy well you know I was down at the pier the other day and I heard the ls and the lads were talking and they were saying do you hear about the new man in town said no I didn’t hear about the man well what are you saying about the man they’re saying that he is the remedy and guess what his name is I said what’s his name they’re saying it’s Kennedy can you believe it there’s a man named Kennedy that they’re calling the remedy and I said to myself goodness gracious let me look this up so I Googled who is Bobby kennedy.com and I watched this movie and you know who narrated the movie it was Woody harelson and it talked all about how the mainstream media is painting this man as some sort of crazy crazy man but when it comes down to the fact the man knows an awful lot about the world he’s lived it he’s been a lawyer for 40 years fighting corporate capture corporate greed environmental destruction all sorts of things he knows about the crisis of addiction in America he knows about the problems that are up and down this country from the left to the right from San Francisco all the way to province Town hip Cod he knows America and he knows what we can do and he also knows the world too and he knows how to deal with other leaders and how to talk about what needs to be done that’s why they’re calling this man the remedy and a lot of people are saying well he has got no chance because you know he didn’t go as a as a Democrat well the Democrats wer gonna have him I didn’t go as a republican well the Republicans wer gonna have him either so he chose to go independent it was the only way to go and you know there hasn’t been an independent president since George Washington it’s time for number two let’s make Bobby the remedy Kennedy number two this November 5th and before that let’s go out let’s mark the me Mark the message because Bobby the remedy Kennedy is getting on every single ballot and honestly contrast him to the other guys listen to his words don’t judge him based on the words of others judge him based on his own words look into his eyes listen to him with your ears you make the decision you are a person you got a heart that’s beating you got a mind that’s thinking think for yourself hear for yourself don’t trust the television it’s a t vision and it’s the programs that are telling you a vision don’t trust the television trust your own mind trust your own ears and use your words with great care just like Bobby the remedy Kennedy so this November 5th good him give him a good chance I’m not going to tell you what to do just give them a chance that for goodness sakes for our children for our ancestors for for our our future Bobby Kyle Bobby the remedy Kennedy Kyle keer everybody uh couple things two quick things before we wrap it all up I’d urge you I I know slogans Z are a thing but I’d urge you to call him the second rather than number two I don’t know if it the Canadian translation of number two is the same as number two is here number two not not a good not a good connotation in this country number two what do you mean number two number one is peee number one is peee number two is number two so just saying this is a this is a translation issue you called him number two we’re gonna call him the second independent C candidate since George yeah well since since George Washington yeah second okay than for you not see that performance true holy shit let me I didn’t want to take a number two take number two all over your friends takeway he heard okay guys can you please cut that whole thing and just eliminate like you know in in the post cuz that was a really good give me your speech it was a good one believe me it will go around social Caleb will will be sure to push it out don’t you worry and then I love that Woody harelson is be slowly becoming an Uber rationalist I love that he is becoming that guy it’s so interesting dismissed him yeah and before we end because that that I before we end I just want to say too that tomorrow we have the CNN fake debate happening in the Fortress of evil and it’s important that you know on this day Bobby is going to be doing a uh his own take on it so he’s gonna have a voice as well it’s the real debate.com is the site that they have set up and I also want to encourage everybody all supporters anybody who believes in Independence and independent uh candidates to consider making a donation to Bobby tomorrow tomorrow is the fake debate money bomb and if the supporters can all just chip in a little bit a little bit from a lot of people makes a huge difference so whatever you can do if you’ve been waiting for that moment tomorrow is the day fake debate money bomb chip in listen I know there’s something very special planned for tomorrow night and you know let’s listen to oh well I think the debate’s at 900 PM eastern time and it sounds like they’re Bobby’s going to be I believe what is going to be happening is Bobby’s going to be you know watching the debate then going to use their old PVR and they’re going to press pause and then we’re GNA have I think they’ll have their own moderator who’s going to be super awesome like you know asking the same question or following on in some form and Bobby will respond and then they’ll press play and so it’s like an alter debate they we’re gonna weave him in because you know CNN the you know the the the Matrix news network uh will not allow for Bobby’s voice to be heard especially in contrast you know to those other two candidates when I think Americans I heard 71% of Americans want to hear him debate you know people deserve to at least have the option to listen to and debate and these Democrats these nvo nais they do the the the big Democrats they’re not the Democrats of the JFK of the RFK these are the ones they like big government they like big Pharmacy they like big war they like big Power they like big money seems like they do not want they do not want people have good choice they want their choices they want people to rise into like you know the higher levels of their own organization but not too high just high enough for you’re easily controlled thank you very much Dr follow him on X you find him there KY we really appreciate you being here and hope to meet you in person shake your hand I can’t wait where are you guys at we’re in Southern California we move around we’ll be up in New York I’ll let we’ll stay in touch we we I’ll get you TR sentencing uh no I doubt it we that’s in Florida right that’s in New York on the on on the 11th on July 11th should be a real circus then we got the Republican National Convention is the next event that’s going to be on the 15th to the 18th that should be a good time I invite you to come to bitcoin Nashville J July 25th to 27th how how savvy are you with Bitcoin you have a wallet I’m unsavvy but I but I’m familiar I’m familiar we can do another show specifically about that and to all your all your people out there check out Edge wallet it’s a great wallet the best way to understand Bitcoin is to actually send and receive it um you can’t St it’s like email you can’t study email you once you send and receive an email you’re like okay I get email same thing with Bitcoin same thing with crypto it’s cash but it’s digital and it can’t be censored so it’s awesome it is an alternative too and Bobby’s been talking a little bit about it too he’s he’s been tilt sort of nodding towards it a bit too which is interesting and was like all about all about it and now like you know in the last month Trump has since declared that he is the crypto candidate so Bob’s definitely having you know an effect on the other guys and I think you know tomorrow night we might even see a question about Bitcoin um you know in the CNN fake debate hash fake debate folks and uh before that you got to check out my show calling out with susany I’ll give a big promo and I’d love to have Kyle on so we can talk to his Guardian Angel one day oh so Susan if you see a promoter right there Susan has a show with uh well just tell your show coming out next tomorrow at 3 o’clock tomorrow at 3M 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youtube.com / calling out or it’ll also be on Dr Drew’s YouTube and Facebook and if you go to locals.com I think it’s calling out.com locals you can uh be on the show we’re going to have a locals Community there and try to get people who are interested in being on the show that are in our community so okay these are I’m going to post it right now so you can follow the link I believe it’s calling out. locals.com but they can find that at calling out show.com oh calling okay and for this oh yeah the webs I’m going to just post them all will be in early tomorrow at noon with salty cracker and uh he’s been stirring it up lately uh next Tuesday July 2nd we have Dr Andrew huffin here is’s an Eco Health whistleblower he’ll be in studio then we are going to take the Fourth of July weekend away and be back on Tuesday with Brad schismus uh and then Wednesday Dave ruin in studio there we are uh and Michael uh am I getting this right yes there we are uh that’s what’s coming up uh Michael farlo I hope you guys his them right he is a UK teacher who opposed mandates he’s a actually not just a teacher I think he was a head master and has some interesting ideas about uh childbearing and what we should be doing and Zack Vorhees is on the schedule I see that as well and baacha Angar San coming on July 16th so we we’ll be look I have a star next to my name yeah there you go it’s a new support Susan let her and it’s so funny cuz I started talking about it on the rumble chat I was like oh yeah my show tomorrow if anybody wants to join and then the the lights went out so our Spirits are already working people love that show so she’s bringing it back so do support Susan and then again support the people support us we can keep doing these things uh we’re very very very fortunate that we love the people that we work with so uh got to get my hair done okay go do your thing uh Caleb anything on your front NOP all good that was an interesting one that was great excited for we have two shows and we have two shows and then a presidential debate tomorrow so tomorrow is packed I’ve already warned my wife I’m like it’s going to be crazy tomorrow I will kiss the kids in the morning and I’ll kiss them before bed they may not see me during the day I don’t know I don’t know who plan who planned to debut a show tomorrow before the presidential debate on the same day we have salty cracker I know that’s okay we want his people to know because they might be interested also I’m uh reading uh Aaron kot’s latest uh disquisition on the Supreme Court decision which did not go his way it looks like they’re going to keep going at it because it let me quote what he says here uh Supreme Court puns on technicalities so they’re going to try to address those technicalities oh Dave Smith is on July 2 uh Dave Smith on July 23rd that’s gonna be a lot of fun it’s good to have Dave back yeah who know Dave was G to be so uh much in the in the heat of things all right everybody thank you so much for 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