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    00:00 – Hello!
    12:30 – Unpopular Opinion 1
    21:45 – Unpopular Opinion 2
    29:14 – Unpopular Opinion 3
    39:23 – Unpopular Opinion 4
    56:30 – Unpopular Opinion 5
    1:01:02 – Unpopular Opinion 6
    1:02:58 – Unpopular Opinion 7
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    Opinion 1 – zachzdr
    Opinion 2 – Serbaayuu
    Opinion 3 – Pencilcrown
    Opinion 4 – TheSkeletones
    Opinion 5 – SafeSurprise3001
    Opinion 6 – RhapsodyInRose
    Opinion 7 – amidja_16
    Opinion 8 – Serbaayuu

    [Music] hello and welcome to episode 141 of the ELD pod blast I Margaret I am Jack sorry about that don’t know what that was hello you know what I hadn’t raised my voice properly today you had done your vocal W my voal so that’s what happened did you make big face little face what does that mean what is it helps you uh enunciate like get your mouth around the words I need some of that man if there’s one person on this Earth who needs some of that it’s me no you’re very clear you just fumble on words sometimes you don’t Mumble you’ve never been a mumbler sug to Mo I don’t think any I don’t think EI either of us are mumblers no we not really mumbl you have the capability of being mum yeah when I’m like maybe annoyed I don’t want you actually hear what I’m saying so I intentionally say it under covertly oh man hello how are you doing hello and welcome to the eldrich Pod blast it’s not always like it is it is it’s always like this it never always like this it is it is always like this 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butter so you could have had a butterless piece of to any Jam for that to either so I couldn’t have hidden it uh so I was just like I’ll just get it something quick to snack on Baron I must so she was like well I’m not I can’t eat this guess what I had instead so so instead of eating the salt and vinegar Cris in the fake Milky Way She was like no I’m not having that I went far more nutritious I had a slim gym a slim gym I I’ve only ever had half of one in my life um one of our members of the community fears kindly gifted us some American snacks and slim gy is one of them I had a slim gym and I had about 15 white cheddar cheeses yeah you did let’s go that was my breakfast today nutritious nutritious full yep I Hade a sandwich I had no butter on it what sandwich did you have I Hade uh some of the bacon and cheese sandwich but there was no bacon left I barely had enough to make my own sandwich you made yourself bacon no it was the pre packet bacon that was prep packet bacon I had it on Wednesday for D and oh I love the prep packet bacon come on cough it up so I had a bottle of sandwich with some really old lettuce one slice of cheese and some and not really very much vacon adults am I right welcome to living as an adult welcome to being an adult no one tells you when you’re an adult that you’re going to get to the end of the week where your groceries have completely ran out and you have to eat a slim gym and 15 cheit for breakfast no one tells you happens yeah it does oh it believe me it happens especially to us and if anyone shames you for that shame on them yeah yeah tell them you you eat your slim gy friend um what else uh oh our t-shirts launching today oh my God new our new merch is launching today attack thew is it certainly is designed 100% by Margaret um up available right now www. elpo blast. cuk yes oh my goodness this is your this is your official warning I’ll make I’ll make a post as well uh the attack the unaware t-shirts are available on the website the 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a great way to support the podcast thank you very much indeed thank you so much The Homebrew challenge is now closed it closed it well it closed yesterday it closed yesterday at 7:00 p.m. and we’ve read out the first one we will have read the first one out yeah we will have read the first one out yesterday the time that this video goes up not a time of filming but um yeah I’m so excited to see what you have um again the the theme was Pride for pride month uh the home challenge is now closed but if you would like to come and see what the community has created join our streams every other Sunday uh last night would have been one so this coming Sunday is not one next Sunday is one and we go through and we read out all the submissions that our community has written I’m so excited I I’ve seen a lot of comments saying prepare to cry Margaret and I can’t wait yeah I’ll be honest I I sort of expected that I me too I sort of expected that honestly me too I’m buch of people in the community being prideful and proud of you know their community and who they are and indeed just embracing yourself as a person so I could cry thinking about it yeah right now honestly I’m really excited to read it and me too uh I think you’re going have done a great job me too yeah absolutely so yes please tune in and see what that is uh a quick PSA um anyone is welcome to enter the home R challenge you certainly are baby absolutely if you have written it and you enjoy it it is Homebrew it doesn’t have to follow any any mechanics it doesn’t have to follow any writing conventions no matter what anyone tells you exactly your home brw is your home brw and we respect that everyone is different and everyone enjoys different things so if you have ever wanted to enter The Homebrew challenge please do so please do so we will have another one up in roughly about six weeks is um yeah I just wanted to say that so uh to another thing tomorrow we’re playing World of Warcraft on stream oh my goodness 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submit yours and we’ll read them out on stream indeed so as always always we always like to preface this with uh it’s called unpopular opinions or hot takes of course everyone is entitled to their opinion if you like any of these opinions you agree with anyone any of them and we do not that is completely your prerogative what works for you and your table is the most important thing don’t listen to us it’s just all for a bit of fun yeah all for a bit of all for a bit of crack all for a bit of fun off a bit of content so we do have a couple of submissions in this I will let you know which one is which and actually let’s let’s start out with a submission okay so this has been sent in by Zach zdr in the Discord and he uses he him pronoun thank you Zach zdr thank you Zach zdr and this is if you’re not built into Charisma skills trying to help your party by using persuasion or deception or intimidation during diplom during diplomacy is actually a detriment I think everyone should be included in the dialogue especially if it has to do with their backstory but the eight strength min one Athletics wizard usually isn’t trying to enter the local Fight Club I think the same sentiment should apply with Charisma see I was very very much dis going to disagree I know until you made the point about cuz the thing is if somebody was like oh I’m going to try and bust this door open and somebody was like oh yeah I’m going to help and it’s just like the the Wizard is never going to it’s not going to be that person it’s not they’re not even going to say can I help they’re just not going to do it yeah and you know I guess that is very table dependent because like I feel like some people would be like that’s meta gaming but like that’s simply just not how your character is built again it’s tough in it because it’s like we play a game and the help action is a thing AG it’s just like I use the help action it’s like because I want to give you Advantage but I know I’m bad at it yeah so it’s like I guess that’s the way the game works but it also that’s the thing it’s like with the door pushing the door open it feel cheesy it feels cheesy but with the social situation if somebody even just chimes in and says like a couple of words they’re like oh well can can they get Advantage because I’m helping it’s just like yeah yeah it’s yeah I agree and I I think that’s why like you know things like strength and and even to to a degree things like intelligence you know they’re kind of cut and dry and you know obviously there’s always Nuance to everything but you know you can go big strong Barbarian or fighter going to Open Door wizard it not but in terms of Charisma and this is why you see so many people being like well bads shouldn’t be able to do me and people hate bads so much and this is why you always see there well you shouldn’t be able to persuade them unless you can persuade me in real life because it’s such a gray area and I I oh my God I absolutely do not agree with that by way but charisma’s you know what it’s weird isn’t it because it’s like this is a really hard because we because because as players we just generally talk we like talk a lot um and we get put in situ situations where we talk far more than you know we never have to physically do anything as players we’re just sat at the table but we are also the ones talking so it’s like drawing that distinction so hard I agree and the thing is but I the only thing with this is I wouldn’t want to discourage people trying to role play and trying to help same like you know is it a deterent like maybe like to be honest actually maybe if someone’s coming in and they have a minus two in Charisma because for a lot of people Charisma the dump start could never be me but you know for a lot of people that’s the case and you if you’re going down the same route of well you wouldn’t get the wizard to try and push the boulder out the way you wouldn’t get the uncharismatic barari Barbarian to try and talk you out of a situation but at the same time they want a role play and it also kind of comes down to like character personality as well yeah like do they have something actually quite good to say In This Moment well that’s it do they want to just agree with what somebody’s saying in a conversation and just back up an argument maybe they’ve forgotten something so you’re like oh yeah don’t forget this and then you’re like oh both of you make a Charisma check and it’s just like no I want to give that person Advantage I think that’s why it’s such a gray area because again the the player with the low Charisma could actually make an incredible Point that’s the thing like an an incredibly well informed point that e even the character could be able to see you know it it it’s kind of like you know a character could have high wisdom and know what to say in the situation but B bad Charisma to to play it out you know like it’s such a gray area I think if you just say oh can I help and you haven’t said anything then I would say I completely agree you can’t just say I want to help like if you genuinely said something to help but your charisma based like lead of the party is taking initiative then I’d say then yeah I’d be more than happy for you to to give the help action to them you know what the thing is I’m thinking about it you know the only things I can pull from are my own experiences and in our campaign you know when we have a moment where someone needs to talk to someone we actually will be like oh hey you have high Charisma go and go and talk to the person you know because again but we won’t even say that we’ll just know who has highis tot and we’ll just let them do it we’ll know who likes the T to the MP me we’ll know who likes to talk to the NPCs like but everyone has a a different approach to talking to people as well especially as their characters so I think you know what point well made Point well made but I I would feel bad execution if it was as cut and dry as that and I think that’s why it’s unpopular because it’s like if you as a DM maybe feel bad in a moment where this has happened where someone’s just gone oh can I help uh but the thing is if they’ve genuinely said something to help then they should just automatically get to yeah personing the main argument should probably just get Advantage I I think you’re using um your your you know the help you’re I know I’ve it’s worded as in like trying to help but I also I I think it means in general if like a low Charisma person not just helping is just trying to take the lead in a situation like this you know like outside of the help action so read it again uh if you’re not built into Charisma skills trying to help by using your persuasion deception or intimidation during diplomacy is a detriment so you know I don’t think it’s limited Str to to the help action I think just punishing somebody because they’ve got a Charisma score that’s low yeah two because they want to try and say something cuz they’ve got a good point to make like in a in in in a debate or something like that or in a high like debate me bro debate me bro in a high tense situation if somebody just chimes in because they’ve got something to say maybe forgetting that they’ve got a bad Charisma car and then you just punish them even though they made a great point no because of their SC it’s probably unfair yeah I don’t think that’s what Zach Zed saying either I think they’re just saying like if we’re going on the same basis of you know the Wizard’s not going to try and push the ball out the way like you know the the negative Charisma Barbarian probably shouldn’t try to lead conversations but the problem with Charisma is it’s so it’s so ingrained into role play where does the role play stop and then the Charisma check start but that’s what I’m saying yeah so like in that thing it’s just like you could make a brilliant point and like lead the conversation yeah but then you’re like oh well this is going to go bad because you’ve got terrible persuasion she like that’s unfair and then like you know having a point to make and then and then being like Oh man but you know I probably shouldn’t do this because I’m probably I have a really bad score and obviously there’s still a chance you can roll really well right but you know like I mean the thing is you could play off like you could go to somebody in the party and been like I have a great idea we should say this to the person who’s got good Charisma so that they can lead yeah uh but again that’s not feels bad yeah it does it does it does it does yeah no it’s it’s a it’s a again Point well made to me to me I think the the as a Master I’ve come to the point where like if you make a great argument yeah full stop I don’t need you to make me a persuasion check like if you’ve hit on all the Keynotes that I wanted you to hit on to persuade somebody the persuasion check isn’t needed the whole point of this persuasion is maybe you didn’t hit on all the notes so how persuasive are you yeah to yeah totally no I I agree I agree do you think this is unpopular yes see I I I again I think this might be 50/50 I think this is unpopular because of my viewpoint on it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I I you know as a whole I think people really dislike Charisma pretty much for this reason right because it is such a great area and people don’t know how to handle it I think that’s it cuz people maybe don’t understand how to use it and people handle it in the wrong way people make it so it’s you’re being punished uh for trying to use Charisma you know whereas you know like you said there if if we make a point to an NPC that is you know heartfelt and if you’ve listened to what they want and what they need and to them and you of ons are enticing if they need to be as well like you don’t need to because the thing is if you make a fantastic point that you’ve listened to everything I’ve said and you’ve really like thought about what you’re going to say and then you roll a one it’s just like well what the [ __ ] was the point in saying the things that’s why I don’t yeah so I think just like as a dungeon master being conscious of like why we’re asking for a Charisma check of any sort yeah I think that’s a general rule of thumb with any form of check as well right you know like you don’t have role for everything no but that I feel like that’s something that very much comes with experience yeah but thank you so much Zach thank you Zack Zedd I remember last time I read out your name I struggled Zack Zedd thank you very much for for your opinion so uh this next one uh this this is from the Reddit and this is simply challenge rating works you have just never read the books no challenge WR does work challenge WR Works challenge WR works 100% it’s a fantastic it’s not um I’m lying to myself challenge rating mhm is a metric mhmh yeah truly yeah is it good no take multiple I tell you who did a [ __ ] brilliant video on there go on um XP to level three Jake yeah he did a [ __ ] unbelievable like it’s a first time dungeon master and they’re like throwing out cr1 like Monsters yeah and he throws one out and the party just destroys it oh man like really sorry like can I wanted this to be a bit more of a challenge can I change something out and the P like yeah yeah sure he takes the mini off and he puts like a like a red worm on like a like a dragon worm like a baby a baby dragon and it just [ __ ] annihilates the group chall it it’s like one or something like that and he’s like oh um oh God sorry let me change that and Chang something else to something just as egregiously bad uh challenge ritten kind of works kind of if you are running a lot of combats in a day low State combats but of them it can work but if you just try and be like one combat a day with like a one CR for a party of four level ones annihilated your [ __ ] party are going to steam they’re going to drop trout and dump all over your [ __ ] monster a big thing is action economy like action economy is such a huge thing and then on top of that if it’s one combat a day and everyone has all of their resources available and they just burn them burn them exactly because they can you better believe that they’re getting annihilated so on the thing is yeah on paper and you know I don’t have a lot of experience with this the only experience I have of this was trying to do some level one to level three combats and being absolutely [ __ ] on from a height and great height yeah and I just had to watch it fall onto me yeah it’s like but the thing is also C might have worked more as when 5V was brand new yeah and people didn’t understand how to optimize as well as they do now absolutely people didn’t understand that like the [ __ ] thief rugs not the [ __ ] strongest and like the assassination rugs only really good if you DM gives you a surprise you know when there wasn’t like that many resources of course has always been resources but resources in the way of easily accessible resources to be like here’s how to build a a character that isn’t dog [ __ ] like full star and you know there’s a lot of there’s a lot of YouTube channels like that there’s a lot of resources like that as to what is good like you can just be like good Feats for shadow Monk and there’ll be plethora great great things that are good VI like we all understand the game the system so much now that uh and because obviously a lot of people have got their hands on it like it’s widely available you know like I think something not an exact onetoone uh example of this is something like World of Warcraft classic back in the day when World of Warcraft first came out in 2004 it was Uncharted Territory it was Rock so hard cuz no one had the literacy to be able to do all these things however they re-released it in 2019 and and the boss that took like 48 days to get down after release was down in one di died in hours yeah so it’s like knowledge knowledge is power oh my god with Kadar uh knowledge is power like and we are far better Gamers now we when 5 came out purely just because there’s so many more resources out there because it’s more experienc with it people have been running around playing the [ __ ] uh four elements mon cuz they’re like man I want to be Ang from uh last avatar Last Avatar uh and then they realize that that’s actually doooo butchies and now nobody plays it it’s like you know what I mean like there’s things that are almost untouched now because they’re like we’ve had enough time and everyone’s like they [ __ ] stink I mean yeah totally yeah what we build now and what we built then are completely different things and people don’t like 5 has changed from that like dungeon Crawley thing and listen like tashas and zanthar as well have come out in the meantime since challenge rating was for for 5e at least was put out and they are front loaded you get all the power at third level because people understand yeah as by because people understand that uh games don’t go that long games don’t go to the really late levels games uh normally don’t even reach 10th level for a lot of people um and it’s just turned into something else it’s now a not just a Dungeon Crawler I know it’s marketed that it’s never just aw you know it can be for some people but I’d say for the majority it’s not it’s a collaborative storytelling game and part of that story is having some cool tough combats but having the six combats a there isn’t the point of the game anymore for I feel like that isn’t the norm anymore I think back then it probably was because everyone was following it you know rule by rule as you were working out what you want to do in 2014 when phb came out I think that was still a very common sentiment that we like to have load of combat the thing is cuz of course it would be because that’s what was put in the First Source material books and again as more people have more experience with it they’ve learned to play they’ve actually played it and gone ah maybe I don’t enjoy this and then you know it started off as like one genre and then it’s just spread and spread and spread and there’s so many like hundreds of different ways to play D and D now and the thing is like you smashing six combats to there is is a super like totally fine way to play yeah absolutely but like when you just think of the grand scheme of d and d and ttrpgs as a whole like we don’t do that yeah like that much anymore you can and that’s fine but the majority we personally don’t we don’t no no no not at all yeah and you know that’s obviously not to say no one else does cuz of course people will but yeah I I think you know challeng rating works you have just never read the book is kind of just an insulting way to say you’re not experienced enough oh or it’s an insulting way to say I like the game the way it was and you’ve changed it yeah or the landscape has changed I don’t like it again it’s so fine to think that it’s fine to say I preferred the game at X time that’s so fine but you have to understand that that is not everyone’s opinion it’s it’s like because people use cobal fake Club to to to like when they’re like how do I start a lot of people do yeah like I remember when I started dming Matthew was like I use cobal Fight Club uh and like so used that and I used it and every all my comments were getting stim rolled and I was like what the [ __ ] going on here and I realized the whole fact was It was supposed to be multiple combats per day yes um so if you if you threw three or four of them at people they would start to get deadly but just one like was just getting destroyed so it doesn’t really work and like I don’t know what [ __ ] POS of the course are doing but rating some things the same CR as each other and they’re just so criminally differently powered is crazy yeah so it doesn’t work I’m sorry yeah yeah no and it it doesn’t work for us I think it doesn’t work for the majority I don’t I just don’t really I think I think it can work but I think the monsters are saw MIT m mismatched per CR like like you said you take like some you look at all the CR ones and they’re so criminally different in terms of power level I don’t actually think it works yeah shall we uh should we link uh Jake’s video down below yeah yeah cool cool all right uh this next one this is a submission uh so this has been sent in by pencil crown or pen if you prefer and she uses she her pronouns thank you pencil Crown thank you pencil Crown pen what a cute name pen uh hot take is simple I think getting reroll effects that are limited but can fail feels bad I play with inspiration and lucky Etc but just turn them but just being turning a success oh my God just turning a failure into a success something like a legendary resistance for me lucky can only be used twice a day instead of three but my players are fine since it’s a guaranteed success and they only use these features on important moments anyway where we all want them to succeed Ed the only reroll I do not apply this to so far is Silver Babs because it’s just too easy as a first level reaction spell cuz it’s [ __ ] stupid just make a second level spell just make the second level spell and then it’ll be way way more balanced yeah I agree um I don’t I don’t wholeheartedly agree or disagree with this too there’s one thing in the game that I do agree with this on and it’s Fighters indomitable yeah because as a fighter at the time you get indomitable you’re quite a high level maybe like seven or eight something like I think you’re level seven and you know you so the saving throws that you’re good at are pretty good yeah I I think I think and again you know indominable comes as like a a class feature it’s a class feature and the thing is as a fighter not all but some are bad at wisdom save and throws Charisma sa and throws some about intelligence save and throws but I can understand the alrich KN and things like that um so but the thing is you fail a wisdom sa throw because your [ __ ] it is you then use your indomitable to reroll the dice yeah but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re still [ __ ] at it yeah and that’s why the feature doesn’t work so in the in One D and D you’re like you get to reroll it and add your fighter level or something like that which is sick because then the the the is it your fighter level and something else like plus your Constitution like that say something like that it could just be fire yeah but you get to add a big plus to it in the whole thing is it’s like I get to roll it with a high chance of success nowed so I don’t like it being an auto success but maybe maybe if you reroll it with like a look point or a divination well it’s not a divination a divination just makes it what it is yeah um something like that you get to add like a flat plus five to the role maybe yeah yeah I agree because like and the thing is I I I actually agree and disagree with points of this you know like can it feel bad if you really need something to to succeed and you know I’m not necessarily talking about in combat I’m talking about maybe more story driven if you need to do something story-wise you need to get somewhere you need to persuade someone to do something you you like it feels really bad failing in those moments especially if like a big story thing hinges on it but would it take away from the tension of it either way if you could turn it into an art of success you know yeah yeah I think I think it would as well for me like if you’re for me if you’re a dungeon master and you need things to succeed like narratively to P the story long you can just make them succeed but as a player the whole point this is to me like and I understand that everyone plays the game for different reasons yeah definitely but to me it’s like like I build a character to be good at something so in the moments where I get to be good at it I can be good at it but at the same time it’s like if there’s a role where something hinges on it like and there’s tension it’s like I need a 10 or more and two so I literally need an eight and like I love saying those numbers out loud to my players because it builds tension at the table because there is a chance of failure like slim or not but like I guess that’s why we do play a dice b game yeah I think as well if things hinge on a dice roll the highs are so high like unfathomably high but the lows are really low but I actually think the highs very much outweigh the lows right because again we play a narr a lot of people we do at least play a narrative based game right where if we fail we trust you as the DM if we fail at one point there will probably be a way we can redeem ourselves we can come back to it we can have another shot at it obviously not at the same level we did there but there’s a chance we can revisit it at some point right and that’s just trus in you as a DM and you know you wanting us to succeed as a party it it’s different in in combats because you know if if you need to hit something and you fail and then you reroll the dice because you use your inspiration Etc and you miss it that feels [ __ ] awful yeah but I also think that is a big part of the game that is a big part of the game yeah you know like feel like I understand and this is the thing like I understand we’re talking on a really macro sense there like Margaret just said like failure feels bad in the moment but then but then makes success feel so much better later I understand we’re talking like in a macro campaign level there which is what I think you’re talking about as well but just like missing in combat is just part of the game like and it feels bad and that’s why in One D and D they’ve brought things in like even if you miss you can still do a little bit of damage yeah because that feels good like like yeah like what was it gr on Nick or something like that where like even if you miss you do your modifiers like if you’re a dexterity based class and you got a plus three you still do three damage which feels kind of yeah and that’s why that’s why they’ve put it in because they recognize it it you know action economy all feels really bad I mean yeah but what we’ve also got to understand is as players with proficiency and modifiers like the it’s always waited towards the players yeah AC’s don’t really get that high I know that some can and I understand that things can like Parry and stuff like that and raise the re a little bit like that but you’re going to be hitting more than you miss in in in D and D as a system anywhere yeah and you know if we’re talking about in combat like if you need to succeed the Charisma saving throw so you’re not dominated and you’re not fighting against your party again I fully understand why it feels [ __ ] awful to fail that save there’s times where we failed saves and we are devastated about it but again I I think the failures you can always turn into maybe not something good but something narrative right there’s always something to take away from them and I I think knowing at any point I could Auto succeed something would potentially take away from the gravity of the situation the example of when your brother played with us for the first time uh and it’s a moment all of us will always remember from now on you said hey you need to make this this history check of 17 he had a minus one he he you told us that he had Advantage he rolled one on the first Dice and then his second Di was an 18 minus one which 17 which is what he needed and everyone stood up the table it’s just like if we just got to Auto succeed that yeah it doesn’t feel as climactic it would still be like yes it would still be like yes but it wouldn’t be all of us standing up and hooting and hollering yeah you know so to me to me and I understand that you and I may be different yeah of of course that just takes too much away from the game for me I I agree I fully agree and I think something like being able to add an extra plus five I I I think that is definitely a way to do it which feels good but there’s still a chance you can fail if you like a two like if you still need a 17 and you haven’t got a plus but you’re using your advantage so it’s just like I have a plus five because we’re using the look point and that’s what we get then I need to roll at least the 12 it’s like there’s still some mistakes there and there’s still like a roll of the dice that needs to happen I agree and it’s still tense anything with like a random number is is still tense but I also fully agree pen why some people just wants to be able to narratively and you don’t feeling sad sucks yeah feeling yeah sus I agree I agree like I get it and you know we we’ve had submissions from before from people saying like you know I hate this toxic positivity around failure is fun and I fully understand that I really really do failure is not fun yeah no but success after failure feels amazing yeah I I agree and it’s not like and I understand that we don’t just want to fail all the time but like a little bit of failure now and then narratively can really drive a story forward you know just [ __ ] missing every round of combat that just fing smells but you know it’s like there’s a reason why the Divination wizard is still heralded as one of the best classes in the game exactly because if it rolls if it rolls a 20 at the beginning of the day it’s just like well whatever role we need to absolutely succeed it’s just sound but I think even then sometimes you know that’s kind of up to the discretion of someone else deciding to give you that you know like there’s still an element of will they won’t they you know obviously I understand table’s talk and everything but um yeah I I think all around I under I very much understand and if this works for your table absolutely I think if it works for you like don’t you don’t need to listen All no yeah of course for me though I think it would take too much away from it would take too much of the take too much of what I enjoy about rolling Dice and having those like insane moments when it actually happens yeah I agree away from the game for me totally totally what do you think what do you think what do you reckon that’s a tougher that’s a tough [ __ ] agree yeah I agree do you think it’s unpopular I think it would be I I yeah me too actually I I think it would be as well yeah I think it would be as well that’s not that’s not to say it’s wrong I just think no no absolutely not to say it’s wrong it’s just to say that everyone plays the game differently indeed thank you very much for your submission pen uh all the rest of these are Reddit ones so a good that was a that was a that was a really good one you know what both I think both of the submissions were really good ones yeah yeah good talking points yeah I agree I agree uh so this next one is not enough DM focus on role playing when not being driven by the story you have an inventory of items that may as well stop existing because nobody is made to use rations or ropes or candles or any other role-play specific items because no one wants to keep track of it and DMS don’t want to press the issue D and D 5e needs an additional metric to incorporate this such as hunger or thirst points uh and more routine mundane tasks that actually build the world what’s the point in a massive City like waterdeep if the only shops you visit are magic and potion stores and locations needed for the story this is such a weird one for me because I couldn’t agree any less because my players do this anywhere and I have never driven them to do it they are like oh yeah we’re going to take this random ass piece of equipment that we found is there some shattered pot somewhere so I could use it in case I need to slice open or rope at some point like Matthew in particular yeah oh yeah couldn’t like he just picks up random [ __ ] yeah and cuz he’s like we could use this later this L we could use and you know what last session he used create food and water to you know have a really nice like meal with all just a nice like like narrative meal where we sort of like had a almost like a little Revelation for like a couple of things and it was like a nice moment for the group and yeah he’s just had a nice meal but it’s all of you you just you just come up with such like random scenarios where you’re like could I use this vial of river waterer to I’m like yeah but I you know what I think it’s I you know obviously we enjoy doing that and to be honest even though I’m not the type of player who I I don’t want to track my encumbrance I don’t want to track my rations I don’t want to well we do kind of track things like our rope I suppose you do you do TR things like Rob but you know like I’m not the type of player who likes this however I actually the second half of this if there was an element like a hunger point and a thirst Point um something like mundane task we had to do I actually think I would enjoy that if I could see it was an actual physical metric that we had to hit they had to like tick off to be like okay I eat my rations so I’m not hungry I actually think our our game would actually probably really enjoy that because the thing is I think you all do it anyway yeah like I think you all do it to an extent anyway and I am totally fine like when when I pose the group a problem yeah I don’t think of the way it’s going to be solved like I very much just say here’s the scenario and then I let them figure it out themselves and sometimes they will turn to the backpacks sometimes they will turn to random items they found sometimes they will turn to spells and see if they can use them in like really like dysfunctional ways to like like to to change problems and I like that and I know that they like that so I do that yeah so if you’re a dungeon master like me who does like that but your group doesn’t do it I can understand being frustrated and wanting certainly yes certainly I don’t think it’s mandatory for most table I don’t I don’t think it is I think you have to have a specific desire desire to do it and and again I can’t help but wonder if like 5e let’s say can out with something like you have to have your rations like it’s not um optional you have to hit your hunger and thirst points I wonder if that’s something that would continue through or if it’s something that people wouldn’t I think something like that would just need to be an optional rolling cuz the thing is there’s so many [ __ ] systems out there that already do that and probably have like thorough in depth in depth really in-depth like great Mechanics for that and you could just go and play that system but then it’s like like then I’m just learning a whole new system just to get something that I just want supplemented for 5 so I understand that because we don’t all have enough time to just learn an entire new system and then teach you to our table I also think what an interesting um point about the Water Deep Sea actually you know like that that actually is quite an interesting point to me being like what’s the point in having a a huge Rich City where you’re only seeing like potion stars and you know places you need to be but at the same time you know everyone’s time is finite and you can’t at least we don’t spend a lot of time in cities but I mean this campaign you don’t because well you do actually the whole yeah yeah but you know it also makes me think in your next campaign where you’ve said it’s going to be more open world and sandbox is it something we’d even want to dabble in I think but the thing is like just saying oh because you only see the these two shops like what’s the whole point in the city it’s just like oh no yeah yeah yeah yeah quests and NPCs yeah and you can still have Rich law you can still have like beautiful Vistas and like cool monuments that like to people long past are like dead kings and queens and stuff the cities and stuff like that and people who like founded it you know what I mean like it could be a part you know what I mean there’s so many things that you can make the city interest in without we being Shops and and it’s also kind of like you know are you going to make up 15 different butchers to go in one that no no yeah yeah well I’m not no I’ll just make them up on the Fly and rip it like as you [ __ ] ask for it yeah yeah I think this is an interesting one I think it’s interesting yeah and I can the thing is like I think there’s a big audience out there that really want that survival aspect totally in 5 toally because 5 is the system that they know and they don’t want to learn a whole new system just to get those things they want it added in AB so I think I think if if if wizards of the course put it in as a as a like optional ruling I think it would get loads of use yeah I do too actually I do and I I honestly believe if there was something like that in your game I think we’ we would it engage with it and I think we would enjoy it I think you know I don’t really like the idea of like first of all I would never be interested in en cumbrance listen ever that’s not something I would ever be interested in that’s why everyone just has a bag of holding all the time every game I simply would not people don’t really care some people do though I get that yeah oh oh my God 100% but you know things like um like the rations I don’t partake in it now because I there isn’t a need to outside of role playing uh like I don’t need to but if there was some sort of point I think I would actually want to it yeah no so fair do you think this is unpopular yes because I think the I think the people who don’t care about survival and stuff like that outweighs the people who do I agree but I don’t think that the people who care about survival are unwarranted with their want for more mechanics I agree I very much agree uh all right this next one is I think it’s fine to get into D and D because you really liked watching critical role then you wanted to try the game out for yourself of course like like the most valid that like you watch a streamer play a game and you’re like oh that game’s cool I’m going to play it yeah what’s the difference let me tell you right now the amount of hate this person got for saying this and the amount of hate that critical role in general get I was going to add another one in about critical role but it it pissed me off so much I was like I’m not going to put it in let me tell you let me tell you my one opinion about this I’ll tell you my one cold hard take go on boring this is the most this is the most boring boring boring opinion on earth oh this one no no people who people who [ __ ] dislike this opinion people who argue against this opinion people who argue against this opinion just like of course you’re going to see somebody having fun playing a game and want want to try the game you’ve never seen something you never seen anyone do anything in life and go oh I think that might be fun you saw somebody riding a bike as a child and wanted to ride a bike like and like the thing is yes you can see that and you can try it and by the way totally okay if once you see someone do something because D and D is so subjective and everyone plays it differently it’s so okay to see critical role play it and then play it yourself and be like ah not for me yeah so fine my God that’s so fine and the thing is it’s so many people lambasting people for being like yeah well it’s never going to be like critical role and it’s like of course it’s not of course it’s never going to betical ro production with professional actors lifelong friends with people with Matt Mercer who has time to you know like commit his life to writing stories and playing out at his table who has a law team who like helps him like keep everything in track and things like that well educated well traveled people who have experienced lot in life people who are older than us you know have more life experience and you know people who are like literate like liter literate literate L literate um you know who engage in these things and engage in these extra like ordinary worlds all the time through their work of course of course it’s going to be this amazing thing of course it is but like just because your game isn’t that doesn’t mean that it’s critical Ro’s fault as well the the biggest and this is kind of going off topic a little bit but like the the biggest thing I saw was people being like critical was the worst thing to ever happen to the Hobby it wasn’t though was it and that’s a [ __ ] stupid thing to say like how is it and and it’s it’s [ __ ] Gatekeepers who were like oh you don’t play it how I play it so therefore it’s wrong and like oh all these normies are coming to the game all these softies yeah yeah and I I just I absolutely [ __ ] hate that take you can think whatever you want about critical role you can like them you can hate them you can be ambivalent towards them but you can’t say that what they did for D and D was bad cuz it’s quite simply wasn’t yeah like the thing is all of these creators that you now like that aren’t critical role and you probably like them just because they’re not and all of the supplements that you’ve got because because ttrpgs have just exploded in this way and become so popular in this way things like I don’t know Griffin’s saddle bag or Cobalt press and things like that you know like these these these like companies and these like startups and all of these things that have come from ttrpgs exploding is inevitably because of critical role yeah like say what you want about D and D I know it’s been popular since the 80s but it has never seen what it’s seen in the last few years in the last eight years since critical roll started or whatever it is 10 years um the boom has never been so big and it wouldn’t have been so big so the things you can say you dislike it whatever but you cannot deny that what is done for the scene is a popular thing I completely agree and the thing is popular does not equal bad no now there’s there’s arguments of people being like yeah well anyone’s coming into the hobby now and it’s bringing bad people in um bad people exist everywhere you had bad people trust me who’s who’s read a million of the stories of people who were in the community before critical raw started you’ve had bad people in this community for a long time you’ve had racists homophobes transphobes Dreadful people in this community since the beginning yeah just because more people are coming in yeah you’re going to get bad but you’re also going to get a wave of good 100% just being like just saying oh well there’s we’re getting more people so there’s bad people you had bad people anyway stop trying to [ __ ] such a straw man argument and lie to yourself that you didn’t have loads of dreadful people in your community like honestly being like yeah well the more people here the more chance there’s bad people and it’s like that that’s just such a terrible argument and I I despise and yeah I love critical role I love critical role so maybe this is bias but like I hate the take that critical role ruins D and D because it’s like it changed nothing for you nothing in your game nothing in your game changed had to change because of the because of critical role maybe there was some people in your game that watched critical role yeah and were like oh I’d like to see more of this I’d like to see more of this and it’s just like okay I understand that might that might have changed your game slightly but at the same time there’s a bunch of people out there like you who despise critical role why don’t you just ban together and play a game that’s nothing like critical role there’s people out there who don’t even know a critical role a and’s the one again of the hobby like at this point now like ttrpgs are so widespread that people are getting into it because balers gate because of the D and D movie yeah and again oh my god there was so many takes being like balers Gates ruined d and d and it’s like it’s like are you just going to say anything newp One D and D ruin D and D One D and D ruin D and D it’s to be fair Wizards of the Coast well you know they they they a fine they skirt a fine line of ruining D and they hon they can’t though because at this point it’s whatever you want it to be like D and D TT RPGs Pathfinder whatever it is you [ __ ] play it’s whatever you want it to be if you don’t like 1 D and D don’t play it yeah 5e is there and it’s never going to change people are still 5e is so big that people are still going to release things for 5 10 years on oh absolutely you don’t have to play if you don’t want to this is why I don’t get about the [ __ ] stupid takes like this nothing external to you and your life is going to change what you want to do if you’re a dungeon master who hears critical role don’t play like them you don’t have to but just bringing people in and spreading the love of ttrpgs the reason you love a ttrpg what you don’t want anybody to [ __ ] experience that because it’s sacred to you that’s called gatekeeping that’s the only thing I can think is that people don’t want to share this hobby with with new people because like and it it’s because they deem them not worthy they’re like oh they’re new so they don’t deserve it and that’s simply just gatekeeping that’s a [ __ ] cracked [ __ ] arguing and 100% get G gatekeeping out of this community 100% it’s so boring we should in it I understand it’s hard to to have something you love so much potentially go to other hands and have a new hand touch the beacon I fully understand that it’s called being protective of something you love but I’ve said it before the chain has to break somewhere just because something H like this is the whole thing of like are people being like Oh yeah well they’re they’re goth now and they weren’t in school but it’s like you know it’s it’s something so similar because it’s like yeah these people who were mean to you before like I kind I’m kind of getting off topic here again but you know like yeah I just feel so strongly about this and I think if you like watching critical ra hey oh my God it doesn’t have to be critical raw it could be anything it could be your your favorite small streamers who stream D and D it could be Dimension 20 it could be anything diens 20 is [ __ ] huge now if you see something that makes you go man I want to try that you are absolutely so welcome and well in your right to do so don’t let anyone tell you that because you’re new and you’re unexperienced and you’re young you don’t have a place here cuz you certainly do certainly do yeah and it [ __ ] pisses me off man anything otherwise drives me up the godamn bend like that’s how both of us got into like yeah I started playing D and D before I’d watched critical roll well literally I’d played one session and I really enjoyed it and I was like man I really like this I hope there’s like some content I can consume on it yeah so I messaged Matthew he’s just like oh you should watch critical roll and he was just like I’m on campaign too and that’s where I started so you could start there so I did and I love it yeah and I love it and I and I live and die for it I [ __ ] I love it it’s so good uh and am I not allowed in the hobby cuz I think I’m in here actually like I think I’m actually I think a minute yeah it it’s it don’t let anyone ever tell you that D and D is not for you for any other reason other than you deciding it’s not for you you don’t like it yeah like quite simply in whatever capacity if it’s smashing goblins if it’s role playing hard if it’s whatever it is if as long as you enjoy it you are valid yeah I agree I completely unless you’re being hateful or toxic un unless you’re a piece of [ __ ] exactly then you don’t belong here cuz we don’t want oh do you think this is unpopular yeah no I think it is because the thing is I think the only people who have this opinion are chronically old as [ __ ] online losers on subreddits and things like that who just can’t do anything apart from type at their keyboard and that’s the only thing that brings them Joy [ __ ] on other people imagine spending that time being hateful channeling it into something you love like pisses me off just what are you doing with your life reconsider your options pleas seriously oh anyway these are the next couple these are the next few these are the last few all right we’re on we’re to the last few uh so oh God this next one is insight and perception check should be rolled by the DM so the players don’t know how accurate their characters assessments are why would but you’re the one looking and you’re the one interpreting why would you not this like falls into the like what it’s metagaming if you know what your character’s looking at it’s metag gaming if you know you’re rolling a dice like I am one thing at the table and that is my character so the one thing I’m going to know is what my character knows I don’t understand what other characters know but it’s like if I roll a natural 20 on a perception check it’s like I I’m pretty confident that I saw everything yeah it’s like if I get a natural 20 on an Insight check I’m pretty confident that I got a good read here like I’m almost certain I have I like I know their Li that’s the whole point like I’ve rolled an amount of success and I’ve been successful or I’ve rolled a [ __ ] 91 and I just don’t see anything like take this into combat um the DM should roll your your attacks to hit so you don’t know so you don’t know if you hit or not the only moment you know you hit is if they go well with some damage yeah like you know like where where is the line that you draw between this why is it just insight and perception and the thing is Insight I can I I don’t agree with it I can maybe understand it a little bit more with Insight right but why because it’s like to what end like if if you roll an Insight check and the DM doesn’t give you anything you didn’t roll high enough yeah if you roll and the DM gives you something you you gain some information if they give you a lot of information you rolled really well it’s like that’s the that’s the level of a success is what the DM hands over but that’s going to happen anyway you know what I mean mean that’s going to happen anyway that’s so it’s like that’s how you know yeah that’s going to happen anyway I rolled in 18 and you only get a little bit oh this person’s quite hard to read yeah like you know what I mean like that’s the to me this is just DMS who struggle to give things away and it’s like they struggle for their players to actually like to to they’re so scared of giving too much away that they just give nothing yeah and people struggle I feel like you know like the the perception check thing and it’s like you know it’s the whole argument of you can roll a natural 20 but you’re still not going to jump to the Moon you can roll a natural 20 on perception but like it doesn’t mean you’re going to get everything right you can roll natural 20 on insight and if that per you if you don’t know this person and like there’s still a chance you can get nothing but if you don’t get to see the role does that make it any less valid I don’t know but I think it makes it even more valid though if I get a natural 20 and I still don’t get anything maybe it’s because the DM said something like suffer a ttal love because this person’s like incredibly hard to read They’re a secret agent who is like who’s who got a [ __ ] Poker Face uh that is renowned across the world it’s like if I roll an actal 20 and I still don’t get anything this person’s incredibly hard to read it’s like I still get something that this person is hard to read this is just this is just [ __ ] I’ll be honest with you this is this is Dreadful you know what I I just don’t know to what end I wish there was an example of why op would like to do this like an actual concrete example are because because if if you don’t want somebody to know something and then you can roll it behind the screen and it doesn’t matter what lands on the dice you can you can decide the outcome that’s just so like dishonest to me it is which I guess is the whole point right that’s so like and not you know not dis it’s dishonest in the way of like DM versus player to like just not wanting to give away your story beat M it’s like you can you can just not give away your story beat I agree you don’t have to do this but this is somebody who maybe doesn’t understand that angle I agree sorry the dog is looking at me so [ __ ] weird N I don’t like that that’s that’s just that’s just you don’t trust your players and you want to keep it all behind the screen and know mean it’s like we [ __ ] come with d and d to roll some [ __ ] dice why are we taking that one luxury away yeah I agree I agree and something something as important as perception checks in my opinion as well something is like widely asked for yeah yeah totally perception check is probably apart from you know in combat one of the most it’s the most the most used the most used I agree AG all right this is the penultimate you know what the penultimate is actually very short and sweet it is simply barbarians should be able to use strength plus con for AC yeah because it’s it’s comp decks isn’t it yeah yeah yeah I agree yeah I agree I agreee I think the AC would get pretty [ __ ] Nar real fast yeah and you know I I also suppose well it’s only going to get to 20 yeah which the thing is I guess the whole point of a barbarian especially with unarmored defense like how would this pair with unarmored defense I suppose think you would that’s what you would get rid of the you would get rid of it you wouldn’t get rid of it you would just change dexterity to strength yeah yeah but like but then it’s just like everyone else uses dexterity saw yeah but I you know I I I agree I I I think but at the same time the whole point of the Barbarian is kind of you know really tanky you take the half damage when you rage like that you’re you’re easy to hit you aren’t massively hard to hit but that’s because but then you start to get to the point of like well if something doesn’t hit with slashing ping and bling it yeah totally you do get hit quite a lot but you still usually have F you’re the only one with the 12 hit dice yeah so I think the 12 hit dice the rage sort of offsets the fact that it’s decks yeah I agree I agree so maybe I don’t agreee with it yeah I still agree with yeah you still w’t agree with it because he’s still like it’s like being able to just go the two things that you actually truly care about was Barbarian having one of them also tied to your uh AC is kind of both of them tid is nuts yeah it would maybe get a little out hand I you know what I can see a world where it would work but it’s probably too much it’s probably too much give him it give him it give him it all right this is our last one all right we’re on the last one uh this is telling brand new oh this is a bad one sorry sorry sorry sorry some of these have been Dreadful yeah telling brand new players to run lost minds of fand delva and just watch Matt Coville videos is Far and Away the most harmful thing you can do to the long-term D and D community and is actively making people worse at running games why like just saying yeah just lost mans of f Dela isn’t massively helpful like there’s a reason why people run lost minds and and there’s a reason why a lot of people did that before it became popular knowledge to do so because I think the intro part of it is quite a good beginner experience for Dungeon Masters yeah it it’s heralded as the beginner module Matt gville is a legend Matt Corville is a honor to this community mat koville I I watch Moville videoos sometimes like when I was we know the um what they called The Divine eradication in my game yes the people who use guns yes like he has a full video just on Gunplay nice and you know like having six shooters and stuff like that and just you know like if you want some more like Thor and in-depth rules that aren’t just like use the Gunslinger um he he’s really great he’s videos are awesome he’s super informative he’s a super nice dude he’s just released a [ __ ] book and apparently it’s dope as [ __ ] I thought you were going to say dog [ __ ] my God apparently it’s sick like and this just says to me that maybe Opie doesn’t like Matt Co cville and also but the thing is I I and hey I can understand not liking a Creator I I absolutely get it I understand why you think you could think the way they teach is not good because you can only draw on your own personal experience and if you don’t like the way that he teaches I can understand why you’re like it it’s not good for anyone you know obviously that’s a very small close-minded way to think that’s extremely close-minded way to the world very secular way to think but I understand why people think like that I do the Lost minds of fand Dela thing I understand less like I see I understand that I understand that more personally I understand that less why is telling a new player to consider running lost mind like the most harmful thing you can do to long-term DND why would running a module be a detriment to your long-term DND D I don’t know like experience it’s I’ve never run it is the thing but like I understand why it’s good um why is it like like a small like portion of an adventure it doesn’t it doesn’t really matter because to me when I say to people I’m just like just run a one shot yeah and like and you know if you can’t think of a one shot then yeah run begin to Lost minds or something like that like there’s all a million different ways to get into d and d and no one is bad no one is right or wrong no one is right or wrong yeah like it’s just what you I I agree and this is insinuating that anyone who has run lost minds of fand Dela is going to be Dreadful has moved on to becoming a bad DM and and what is that saying about the people who enjoy lost minds of fand Dela [ __ ] well that’s it you’re trash and and what’s the alternative is I wish op once again gave examples of what they think a good experience is like are they saying that’s it it’s like this is the problem with things like this yeah it’s like they they give these stinky doooo as Che takes and I understand everything has to be objective when you give these opinions but they offer nothing in yeah why is watching Matt kville videos and lost minds of fand delva harmful that’s that’s what I want to know is it because you know lost Minds is unbalanced I’ve heard I’ve heard it isn’t I haven’t played it I’ve heard it isn’t thing you can think one thing is unbalanced but somebody who likes really like really like uh easy combats would be like oh Rock somebody who like crunchy super difficult be like oh this is easy it’s just like we’re all different people who enjoy different things so saying that one thing is bad for the entire community is yeah is is that’s wrong it’s a stupid thing to say I agree it’s a stupid thing to say because like you and I are different people we love it inde is op the only thing I can think op is insinuating here is to maybe start with your own home brew instead of running a module maybe but man [ __ ] me take it from someone and again my experience is personal to me who started no it’s not your your experience stat S I started with a home R world I tried to build everything from the ground up and it was so difficult and it was so hard that wasn’t the only element that made me not want to DM but it was a big element to why I didn’t want to DM anymore like would it have been better for me to start with a module oh my God yes 100% 100% yes and I you know expecting people to jump in with their own Homebrew world is so much pressure so much pressure and I I hey big up to you if you’ve gone in with your first home brew world you Matthew you both started with your own home bre worlds and you [ __ ] thrived but that doesn’t mean everyone will I just think what a what a strange thing to say I need to know why this it’s similar to the [ __ ] like oh if you run a module you’re a bad DM man take it’s just like dog [ __ ] no you’re not yeah my God that’s just elitism it’s just yeah that’s what this is eltis what this is it’s just it’s just like you’re offering nothing to to discuss by saying these these two things I need examples why they don’t have any because it’s wrong I know these two things that are widely enjoyed by the community are wrong because maybe I don’t like them yeah maybe op had like a bad experience like that’s fine but can you not understand with critical thinking that your experience doesn’t speak for the entire Community this is why man this is why online discourse around D and D can be so harmful imagine a new DND d new d a new DM a new d a new DND d a new DND d a new DM a new DM a new dungeon master new dungeon master some of the first discourse they see online is someone saying this and then this DM goes oh well it has to be true it has to be bad it’s the wor I don’t want to do the most harmful thing and and give myself a terrible D and D career I’m going to stay away from Lost Minds I’m never going to watch a Matt cville video and I’m going to disagree with anyone based on this opinion because that’s how the internet works these days oh yeah 100% you can you you see an opinion I’m sure and I I I have I have friends like this and there’s so many times where I have to like and I I don’t like doing it but I’m like why do you think like that though and I have to I have to like try and break down the like oh yeah well I heard this just like but have you have you crafted your own opinion on this have you like actually like experienced it yourself before and you know I realize that’s a very that’s a high horse for us to ride on because we sit on the internet giving our opinions on D and D yeah we sit here and say if you want to play D and D come in as long as you’re not hateful at no point do we say no this is [ __ ] [ __ ] you I mean like you could come to my table like this is the thing hey I consider monks underpowered you come to my table and you want to play a four elements monk yeah come on enjoy yourself because as long as you’re enjoying yourself it doesn’t matter I I fully agree as long as you’re not being harmful to other people it doesn’t matter like this is the thing though it’s like yeah I sit on the opinion and give my in I sit on the internet and give my opinion but I try and sit here and say like play the game however you want what you enjoy in D and D is what you enjoy in D and D it doesn’t matter what I say as long as you’re not being hateful yeah no ioy I agree but you know you know what I’m saying like you know I am sure and and thank you there’s people who listen to our opinions and they go yeah that opinion’s correct and then don’t have any critical thinking for themselves outside of it because again we we really try to say our opinions can only be based on our own experiences your experiences are going to be so different to ours so you can completely agree with our opinion but if you’re taking our opinions into a really nuanced situation and not considering the other sides of everything then you know that that’s a problem and that’s that’s the whole issue we have on the internet right and that’s why something like this is so harmful something and this is why you know like we’re 141 episodes in and at the beginning of horrible house rules and at the beginning of unpopular opinions every single episode we State yeah your game is your game your party is your party you are you and if you enjoy these things enjoy them it doesn’t matter what we say we’re just giving our own experience and creating a bit of content and that’s why we give the warning because at the end of the day we can only speak from what we think is right and stuff like that warning we’re idiots and we and yeah and we’re just two idiots on the internet and that’s why we say it H yeah what do you think you think this is unpopular Dreadful yeah I think it’s terrible God damn Dreadful I need I I need to know why is Matt K the most harmful person in DND D he’s just like the he’s like everyone’s D and D Dad yeah I know I know I know well can you tell me why do you know why do you does this op have inside scoop on MAR koville yeah do you know something I don’t know that’s it fcking anyway yeah that’s it that’s www.p blast. co.uk go and pick yourself up a attack the unaware t-shirt yes um hit the like Bell subscribe comment down below all that good stuff to help the video to help the channel come and join us on Twitch on Tuesdays Fridays and Sundays we’re playing wow tomorrow playing wow tomorrow so come and join us we’d love to have you there just to hang out you can lur no one cares if you’re not chatting as long as you just come and have a good time uh that’s about it get out of here I love you I love you 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    1. It's Cloggin' Time! It's Monday night so dnd night. The first homebrew stream of the Pride theme was lovely. Loved how different they were.

    2. I got into dnd/ttrpgs 4 years ago and I've not watched a single CR but I know people who do. It doesn't matter how people get into the hobby. The more people who try it the more future DM/GMs we get.

    3. I HATE when people say stuff like " this is the worse thing that ever happened to this sport/hobby/video game etc." You don't like that things are now attracting more attention and we might get more of that thing?

    4. Time Stamps:
      Topic Start: 11:30
      12:30: If you are not building charisma; let the people who are take care of the social rolls
      21:45: Challenge rating works; you just didn't read the book. (Title card story)
      29:14: Changed the lucky feat to automatically succeed only 2 times.
      39:23: Non story RP is often forgotten about.
      56:30: Insight should be rolled by the DM
      1:01:02: Barbarian should be able to use strength for intimidation rolls.
      1:02:58: Telling new players to play LMOP makes the hobby worse for wear in the long term.

    5. 1:01:10
      The thing is, Con already is representing the barbarian just gritting their teeth through attacks, and dex is them moving in such a way that they don't get hit as hard… Using strength for AC instead of dex here just feels like wanting to have more dump stats so Str and Con are the only two you need 😅

    6. A couple things about making/helping with checks you aren't good at being detrimental to the game that weren't mentioned:

      The rules support using different stats to make certain checks. If the party is trying to persuade someone but is too stubborn to be "sold" by Charisma, the Wizard using their intelligence to make a concrete point that the NPC is willing to listen to can be made as an Intellgience(Persuasion) check. It's the same as the way people often talk about using Strength for intimidation. And it reiterate Jack's point, if what the non-charismatic person says is good enough, a roll doesn't need to be made. Always sending in the Eloquence Bard to make a persuasion roll is just too gamey for me. You're not supposed to succeed on every roll, otherwise we wouldn't be rolling dice. If the roll has real stakes, I think the DM should convey that ahead of time and let the players decide how to approach it. But if it's just a casual check, then just let the person play the game.

      Secondly, it's also in the rules that you can only use the Help action if you're proficient in the same skill you're helping with (PHB 175, 'Working Together'). I personally think this is garbage. In most cases it makes sense, but there are other ways to help. If the Barbarian is trying to lift a boulder, the Artificer can't help with Strength, but they can use their intelligence to find something that will work as a fulcrum and lever. And I always tie this back to the movie the Fifth Element in the beginning the child is using a mirror to reflect light from the outside onto the heiroglyphs so the archeologist can read them better; that's helping, and it has nothing to do with the child's intelligence. In this way I always think it's the most fair to ask a player to describe how they're helping and arbitrating if it's enough to warrant the advantage. At the end of the day the Help action is tool to help players create relationships with each other, and I don't think they should be discouraged from doing so just because they don't have the right proficiencies.

    7. the insight, perception one is valid and it is normal in PF2e, anything that is a knowledge roll is done secret. it keeps the ones that are looking for a trap from rolling a 2 and asking someone else to look around because they know they failed that check (where as if it was a 18 they would probably not have bothered to ask someone else). In pathfinder it also means if a recall knowledge check is a crit fail you can give them false information, say they get one true and one false thing and they wont know if both are true or if they just failed the check.
      Edit to add: They still get to roll since it is a vtt(just choose blind) and I almost always error towards the party because I WANT to give them info 🙂

    8. I really appreciate challenge rating as a new dm to give me a starting point for what monsters to throw at my players. How do I know what monsters to use if challenge rating is unreliable?

    9. I feel like the DM rolling the Perception/Insight checks stems from having characters who act like they know they just rolled low on a check. Which isn't uncommon among newer players; separating what you know from what the character knows. This is just better handled by talking to your players. but if for whatever reason they can't break the habit then rolling behind the screen isn't so bad. Not ideal, but isn't a bad stop-gap.

    10. I think a good compromise on the charisma debate is to have the high stat character take the lead and the dice roll, but have good role-play arguments lower the DC.

    11. Sounds like a good healthy breakfast haha. Yeah CR isn’t the best in the books. I have to agree, I like the tension a dice roll creates and an auto success takes away from that but each to their own if they like doing that.

    12. It's cloggin' time!!!!!! So pumped for another episode. Will you be doing anything special when episode 150 comes along?

    13. Second Opinion: I bring it up all the time: A group of Troglodytes, which are CR 1/4 creatures, and nearly wiped a party I was part of because they have Multiattack. Pretty sure the party was level 3 or so. They just kept getting off 3 attacks each per round, and it nearly killed us. Challenge Rating is trash.

    14. Third Opinion: I kind of like and hate the idea of an auto-success for using Inspiration or Luck, and I agree that there should be some kind of chance still. Maybe some kind of roll that reduces the DC of the check the character was trying to make? Or a roll against something else, like one of the character's own Ability Scores instead of a DC? Just throwing ideas out.

    15. Barbarians using Strength for Unarmored Defense is as overdone as Sorcerers being Con casters. I don't think it's as silly as Sorcerers being Con casters, but I also don't think it's necessary.

      Barbarians are supposed to soak damage. That's why they have the higher health pool and resistance to damage. They can also wear medium armor and benefit from wearing a shield which is better in the early game anyway unless you roll god stats. Even then wearing armor will most likely just serve you better because you can find magic armor to either futher increase your AC or provide other benefits.

      The only argument for using Strength is that Dex+Con makes Barbarians sort of an unofficial MAD class, and furthermore it makes them MAD on specifically the physical attributes (STR, DEX, CON) which means your mental stats are going to be low if you're going all in on unarmored defense. Even as a medium armor wearer they still have this problem to some extent, but I don't think it's something that needs fixing.

      You also have to keep in mind things like Belts of Storm Giant Strength exist. There's a reason there aren't magic items, besides the book that can be used once a century, that increase your Dex beyond 20.

    16. For the insight/perception check one, I think OP’s frustration came from something like this:

      Player: “Does NPC seem trustworthy?”
      DM: “Roll an Insight check for me”
      Player: “4”
      DM: “NPC seems trustworthy to you”
      Player character, talking to the party later: “Hey I don’t think we should trust that NPC”

      That’s just bad player behavior though, and needs to be discussed above table that meta gaming like that isn’t cool

    17. Just wanted to echo my agreement with ya'll on the first point about charisma checks! This is something I'm personally handing right now as the bard of our group, I have been desperately trying to involve my group in RP / charisma checks more because they're worried about their low stats hindering them. To Hells with it, I say! Even if it's challenging, even if we fail, isn't there some fun in that? Plus with this D&D take, it feels like a way for some serious pressure to be piled onto the charisma player who would be expected to kind of solo dialogue with NPCs?

    18. A follow-p question, concerning the auto-success discussion, if auto-success that's limited feels bad for players to have, should Legendary Resistance be reworked as well? Make it so the monsters can just re-roll with a lowered DC?

    19. Hi there, I'm Penn from one of the submissions, thanks so much for reading and discussing my submission! I'd just like to throw in, for discussion, a little extra info: One of my players, I kid you not, almost never rolls above an 8. Every session, she has rolled one nat 20 in the last year and frankly the dice have been absolutely awful for her. I understand the allurer of luck and as long as it feels reasonably balanced, I'm all for it, but sometimes it's just rough the entire session, like what Jack was mentioning about a fighter who misses every attack. In our first campaign she was a fighter who quite literally never hit with her spear, could only hit with spells every time she rolled for her spear attack it was 5 or under, it felt like a curse.

      These systems I use for free auto-success aren't unlimited, and in a full session you only have like 2 opportunities, so the tension can come from not knowing if you should spend it at one time or another, the famous RPG elixir problem. I totally understand these systems aren't for everyone, hence it being a hot take, just wanted to plug in some extra context for why I do it. Love the podcast, thanks so much! 😀

    20. Charisma is the way the world sees your character. The way the player talks and interacts with the game is done through their characters filter: if we don't punish a shy player who wants to play high charisma, we shouldn't reward a very social player who dumps charisma

    21. i 100% agree with the critical role take. That show has only brought more love and players to D&D and so many folks just want to exclude them like its primary school.

    22. I don't see the dm rolling for certain things as cut and dry as you make it out to be. Ive read some other systems where this is the norm for some rolls. Now i agree, and if i played this systems i would usually allow my player to roll for themselves, but i can see the value in sometimes having the dm roll. For example, if the player rolls some kind of knowledge based check. If they roll a 2, they know that what ever info i give them is bull shit, or i just tell them they dont know anything. For an insight check, the player should believe whatever info they gleamed from their roll. So if you rolled a 2 and the dm says "you believe they are telling the truth" you are forced to pretend that you believe them even though you clearly failed. If the dm rolls and then just tells you you believe them, you dont have to pretend, you just go off of the info your character has. This obviously needs player to dm trust, and the dm shouldn't be fudging a player roll.

    23. I found you guys through TikTok and I’m one of those new subscribers! It’s awesome going from 1min to a whole hour and I enjoy listening in the background while I’m working 🙂

    24. I don't understand what the last person is even suggesting with that take, because the two things they say not to do seem so contradictory. Matt Collville suggests beginning with a homebrew campaign, but starting small and building it up as you go (what he calls the spiral technique of worldbuilding, something which might have been beneficial to Margaret when she was running her first game), and he's even said recently that Lost Mine of Phandelver is a bad place for a brand new GM start because it's quite long for a beginner module. I think, once again, Redditors be Redditing and they're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

    25. So I have a DM that has the following opinion:

      Monk's are fine, you just need to stop using all your Ki point's each fight.

      This is in a discussion at 3rd level (2 monk/1Barb) when we had 4 combats in one day.

      I asked the DM about using the OneDnD Monk, because imo, it fixes this issue. They said no, implying it was broken.

    26. @ 58:47

      I have a DM like that, seem's afraid ofgiving anything away, and it just feels like getting stonewalled all the time.

      examples:

      My charecter, a blue tabaxi, (blue tabaxi dont exist in this world) has no idea where she came from, or who her biological mother is.

      We enterd a crypt to killa bunch of undead, and found…ANOTHER BLUE TABAXI, (The first tabaxi of any kind my charecter has ever seen in her life, shes 19)

      We save the Tabaxi, and try talking to her, and get nothing. Then the blood god shows up making some of us offers, realises my charecter is sworn to her goddess and retracts the offer for her. This blod god also mentiones that were all have special blood, my charecter and the other tabaxi are so because were from another version of this world.

      Kinda floored, M charecter tries to again talk to the other tabaxi, the other tabaxi's response, 'eh, it will all work itself out I guess'

      She was under no magical effect, had no memory tampering or anything, we couldnt get anything useful out of this tabaxi at all.
      This tabaxi also lied about her name (nat 20 insight) but when confronted denied it. even under detect thoughts (Which I had to blow sorc points on for subtile spell as the DM turns whoever your talking to hostile if you use anyspell at all to help yourself in the convo. (yes, even casting guidance on yourself), But even under detect thoughts we got nothing.

      My charecter who's been sworn to her diety for 19 years gets nothing about who or what she is, who her mother is etc.

      But everyone else is more than happy to share…

      Angel with a grudge and just wanting to watch my charecter suffer, chases her across a desert, knocks her to unconsious, then flys off muttering about how my charecter was supposed to be stronger or something.

      Got into a weird extra dimentional library, and found out my charecter is supposed to ressurect a 5000 year of Order of knights in order to keep the world safe, the Angel above…was this orders captain and personally slaughtered the last of that order about 500 years ago. Why…he wont say…its a secret.

      Ask goddess about it…get nothing.
      Ask goddess about what I'm supposed to be….nothing
      Ask goddess what it is she would like me to do if I chose to…nothing
      Ask where I'm from…nothing
      Ask who my birth mother is…nothing

      shrug ok, move on.

      Meet another PC's 'diety' Queen of the Valkries I belive, she tells me she KNOWS who my mother is….but wont tell me.

      Meet a Blood god that HAPPILY tells me im from a alternate world.

      Afore mentioned Library.

      The Tabaxi we rescued.

      no non diety/super powerful being, knows anyhting about the order my charecter is suposed to bring back, or anything about the Angel that wiped out the order before.

      Oh and my charecter also has her goddess's PERSONAL famillier…who knows nothing/wont say anything.

      That's just 1 campaign.

      another campaign same DM.

      Had something sneak up on us that had a base stealth of 31 (on it's WORST roll) vs our best perception check possible of 30 (THats a NAT20btw)

      Asked my charecter for a survival check to locate some tracks or evidence of where something went, I rolled an 18 + 4 (2 off my Max), 'yeah no you see nothing'

      We found a gient and some humanoids having a fight, giant had glowing red eyes, (this was seen by TWO of our party having perception checks of 24+)

      We goto help the humanoids hoping to gain an ally in this jungle we were in, to discover they to have glowing red eyes….which we didnt see as we were too far away….we were 100ft away, My charecter can run that distance without breaking a sweat. (50ft base + 10 longstrider, Monk)

      So ofcourse we had to fight all of it as it all decided to turn around and fight us.

      We won, tried to save the humanoids, all but one died to the giants last aoe attack….thing. My charecter cared for the unconsious humanoid that appeared to worship cat's.

      When he woke up, I tried to speak to him, got nothing, tried to tell him his friends were dead and we couldnt save them, nothing.
      And he just walked off into the jungle in the middle of the night. (The red eyes were gone btw)

      My charecter….IS A DAMN TABAXI.

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