Adventure Bike Truth – Marketing V Reality

    I take a look at what the marketing people tell us about adventure bikes and compare that to reality.

    Video footage from:

    MADtv: https://youtu.be/yr_PoNQkkas
    ADV Pulse: https://youtu.be/szllJzMbPtc
    Visordown Motorcycle Videos : https://youtu.be/qI8yq1wvB3o
    Million Dollar Bogan: https://youtu.be/sWqgstg176k
    Big Bike Adventures: https://youtu.be/aC-KbCFg2G4

    adventure is a marketing term the human mind lusts for adventure as an escape from the routine of everyday life those bastards in the marketing department know this and they use it against us so here today we’re going to look at what is the difference especially with the big adventure bikes between the marketing and reality i just want to show you a little clip of my mate dave he’s testing the triumph tiger 900 rally pro just think about that description for a minute 900 rally pro this is a clip of him from his channel mad tv now that’s more excitement now what dave’s actually trying to do here is get started on a slight incline with a hundred horsepower you can see how he’s struggling just to get moving again i’d like to propose that maybe with less horsepower you might get up there easier how much horsepower do we actually need i ride a crf 300 rally that’s got 26 horsepower if i’m lucky i can go everywhere and i can have fun a ktm 500 say has around it’s like i guess 50 horsepower now that’s fun but these big bikes with 100 horsepower can you really use all that power let’s have a look at this review of the husqvara norden 890 and see how they manage all that power what you get with the nord 901 is 889 cc parallel twin with 105 horsepower you also have the full array of electronics which include traction control lean angle sensitive abs even the traction control is lean angle sensitive you’ve got rider modes for rain street off-road and the optional explorer mode which allows you to turn on the rally setting for more high performance throttle response different levels of slip you can change the throttle responses you can customize how much intervention you want with the traction control it’s basically the top of the line in terms of electronics now for me reading between the lines i can think they’re trying to say [ __ ] it’s too powerful let’s tone it down so they can actually write it so this brings us to point one in our marketing versus reality table here marketing says you need a hundred horsepower maybe more in reality you don’t just get out there and ride now i have to admit it was one of these honda africa twin videos marketing videos that got me i saw the big bike it’s flying through the desert and i thought that’s what i want an adventure bike like that let’s see some real world average adventurers in the desert she’s bogged again keep going now those marketing guys are always saying you need this big adventure bike must be big powerful but guess what big bikes are heavy really heavy like two people to lift them up heavy i want to hear from you i love adv writing i really really love it let’s put that on the table marketing says you need a big bike guess what you don’t this next one is the one that really pees me off marketing guys tell us you can do all this straight off the showroom floor really i can go on all those different terrains with the stock tyres hmm let’s see i think i’m going to be buying this bike she’s got the wrong few ties one let’s add that one to the list marketing says ready for adventure in reality it is ready for adventure as long as you don’t go too far off-road don’t go on too many loose surfaces definitely don’t go on mud but yes it’s ready for adventure if you like gravel roads and just exploring very minor dirt roads anything else and you’re going to have to upgrade the tyres at a minimum now for the biggest marketing con of all these marketing people are selling us the dream of adventure if you look at all these ads is that adventure hmm someone say yes i would argue it’s really touring and if they call them travel bikes or off-road touring box i wouldn’t have a problem with them but these sneaky bastards call them adventure bikes and that’s what sucks us in i know everyone’s definition of adventure is different and you can have a great adventure on a posty bike or any small bike and just ride a general dirt road but they’re selling us the big adventure dream crossing deserts climbing mountains forging rivers now unless you’re chris birch or some other enduro gun most of us average riders are far better off thinking of them as touring bikes off-road travel bikes that’s essentially what they are this brings us to the biggest marketing ploy of all the labeling of them as adventure bikes well in reality we should think of them as travel bikes or off-road touring bikes that way our expectations are set we don’t find ourselves taking them into places or situations that perhaps our skill level can’t back up you know half of these manufacturers do have a smaller lightweight less powerful bike that they’re willing to sell you but the bastards don’t advertise that they suck us in with this adventure bike and we fall for it time after time as i said earlier i was sucked into i bought myself a africa twin thinking that’s what i needed for adventure but i soon found out places i wanted to take it the africa twin wasn’t for me so bought myself a little brother crf 300 rally and guess what now i can ride everywhere i want explore those tracks that i never could on the africa twin because i was too worried about its weight would i be able to get up this slippery hill with a hundred horsepower these things you’re going to have to work out for yourself and i hope this video has helped you to understand the difference between marketing and reality if you like this video please subscribe to my channel and show some support i hope to do more videos like this in the future maybe even some real world bike tests i might have to find bikes that people own because i doubt the manufacturers will like me telling the truth anyway thanks for watching and i’ll see you next time

    28 Comments

    1. I bought a 1250GS as touring bike. The only dirt it will see, gravel roads. I am 192 and like
      the position, the protection and the fuel capacity. I also like the style and I want to keep my driving license 😂

    2. Had to stop ADV riding due to my knees. But I bought my first roadster- and you know what? I don’t miss being drawn into discussions over what is the best bike for the job 😂😂 In reality you can have an adventure on any vehicle. Ask Ed March on C90 Adventures. Best channel ever.

    3. Well – that’s the world we have created!
      Filled up with too much of nothing more than “fantasy”.
      Our houses have rooms we don’t need filled up to the ceiling with things we don’t need.
      Like our minds that are filled up with 99,9% of bullshit.
      How could a person that is ruled by such a mind ever come to logic and responsible decisions?

    4. I agree with everything here. I had an R1250GS for the purpose of road riding, and tried a bit of dirt road riding, and while it did it, it was 1000x worse than an actual enduro bike. I laugh at people who take them off road like the clowns in this video.

    5. I'd say the "Off-road Touring" bike is what most purchasers of these heavier bikes are indeed looking for: A bike big enough to go the long distance on road with a bit of off-road capabilities.

      I had a BMW 650GS did a couple trips for long trips from Canada to Cabo and back and all around the NW. My biggest complaint was that the 650 was not a great highway bike, which was 90% of my ride, would have traded it in for a nice 1250 any day! It was way under-powered to keep up with traffic with a full long journey load.

      Now if you wanna go up and down sand dunes and one tracks – Awesome get yourself a dirt bike, that's what they're for and that's an awesome "Adventure" too!

      My definition of "Adventure" is travel to many places, meet interesting people in interesting cultures and once in a while go off track, in other words: Give me a large Adventure Bike…

      So I don't see the gist of this video being completely on the mark, just depends on what you want to do…

    6. let's be real, adv are just for being comfortable af ripping through tarmac and being able to do some gravel and light off road work. That's why I have mine and I love it!

    7. Cheers mate! The truth.
      I rode my 12 year Honda SH 300 through the hills, on stock scooter tyres 😂😂😂😂 and through dirt water and mud and had awesome fun 🎉🎉🎉 Ok, that's probably insane but it was 1000% fun chalenging myself to stay up straight… And I had nothing to lose…
      To me, ultimate all-round bike is Honda NC750 with offroad tyres… Low revs hi torque 54hp is perfect for offroad, and you can do 160 kmph on the highway for 3,8 lit./100km average…
      Cheers.

    8. I hate off-road. I just need a bike capable of accompanying me on long road travel trips with the missus and that's occasionally able to handle small gravel roads and hold the luggage…

      Not much of a choice…

    9. You dont really need that much power, Problem is a lot of creature and ride comforts only comes in the HIgh displacement, HIgh power BIg adventure bikes.

    10. I don't think you can compare a 300 to a 8 or 900. just to many differences. A crf rally is just a dirt bike with a headlight. you do dirtbike crap with it. A bigger adventure bike is for touring the roads less travelled. and occasionally you'll have a mud hole or sand in that road that your bike will make it thru…And most people that have adventure bikes also have dual sport bikes…choice the right tool for the job is what i always say…

    11. Yes! I have been telling people this for years. A lot of HP and mass is a huge liability off road.

      I had an Africa Twin. Too much of a bear off road. Also had a CRF 300 rally. Great bike that was much more fun than the AT. I now have a TransAlp. Fantastic compromise. The 300 was the most fun bike of all though. If only they didn't come with crap suspensions…

      If you look closely at the marketing videos, you can often see those big bikes aren't using the same tires that come on them from the factory. You know they mod the suspensions too.

    12. They're silly top heavy two wheel tanks. Uncontrollable off-road as shown here. Owned by insecure aggressive idiots who think it somehow makes them masculine – when we all know they're just posers.

    13. Get a 250cc or 300cc adv bike and just ride. Heck, get a 150cc if you are lighter in weight. See how much fun youll have.

      Its not how much power, its how much experience of a rider you are. Get the experience first then youll know what you need.

      Adv is designed for long road and semi offroad. A line between a cruiser and a dirt bike. But dont have the full luxury of either bike.

    14. I feel like I watched a propaganda film against adventure bikes, lol. The high horsepower and all the traction aids are for on road, because as you said, they are touring off road bikes. So they need to be fun on pavement too. Yes they suck at deep sand, and technical single track, but the average rider can go pretty far off road and is able to pick it up by themselves. I agree that the marketing is a lie, because they are not going to replace a dirt bike or proper dual sport. But you are giving them less credit than they deserve.

    15. Upgraded from a Versys 650 to R1250 GSA. It made travelling long distance more pleasurable, and that's what I do in 99% of my rides. I took it on unpaved roads a few times but I am not delusional enough to think I can copy those athletes in commercials.

    16. I love my Suzuki VStrom1000. Any riding “off tarmac” is on gravel roads. Not dirt, not sand, not mud. Certainly not single track. That’s what I have my DRZ400S for

    17. You seem to have overlooked the point that adventure bikes need to be exciting on the highway too , and many ride two up. 36 hp isn't doing that. Do you NEED 150 hp? Of course not, but it's fun as hell on the highway, but of course, it needs to be toned down in the dirt. You can use any bike to do anything. Any bike can be an "adventure bike". Honestly, I don't see anyone trying single-track, technical stuff on the big adv bikes. In the Triumph manual, it says "for light off roading." The marketing people may be overselling them, but I think that most people that actually own them are happy with what the bike is technically capable of, even though they may not have the ability to use it to its potential. This is also true in the automotive world.

    18. I don't usually comment. I just read xD. Been motorcycling since 17, that was 23 years ago. Tried different bikes of different sizes and weights (I'm just a casual rider). I'm on my CRF 300 Rally for three months now. I very seldom use my other bikes anymore, neither the lower CCs (125) nor the bigger ones (650 to 1250). I find the CRF 300 Rally well balanced. Just like what you have said, "I can go anywhere", as it is more agile, versatile and easier to operate. I've seen videos of some people doing cross countries just by using dirt bikes, like the KTM 500 exc, e.g. rtwPaul of MOTOREK. Many can master heavier bikes to tackle more challenging/technical roads, and yet still challenging to do so most of the time. As a casual motorist like me, I don't have to do that on the 300 Rally. However, and finally, to each his own. Happy and safe riding to all 🙂
      Edit: But I'm itching to try and find out how the new BMW F900 Enduro performs or feels on different types of roads. xD

    19. This was great. As an American in the Philippines, I bought a little 125 scoot first. Does 95% of what I need, but I fell into a group of very experienced adventure riders and occasionally we end up in absolutely crazy off road situations, that we rarely know is coming. One of them sold me their Suzuki VStrom 250 SX. I ride it 95% of the time now and it can do *almost everything the bigger bikes can do. Skill and judgement does the rest. As mentioned, if you really play hard, you have to be able to pick the bike up. I can always do that. Soo glad I didn’t get a bigger bike. Great vid.

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