How would Super Rugby teams fare in the Champions Cup? | Aotearoa Rugby Pod

The lads have plenty of big club games to react to this week after finals in Europe and Japan as well as some huge results in Super Rugby Pacific. We start by dissecting the games in Christchurch and Hamilton before casting an eye over the Champions Cup final.

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now this weekend there was a really big game on in Europe obviously the the European final too got up 3122 over lster and you know real battle of the powerhouses over there what impressed you the most about too and how they went about doing what they did oh their defense like and they just didn’t play the game they only 36% territory um what ler they’ll look at it as an opportunity Miss 15 22 M entries one try they went to the corner a lot um early they didn’t take the three um which is their style and I commend them for it you know like good on them but it didn’t come off like they left points out there and in the end those points and going to the corner and being stopped defensively by too uh was the winning and losing um they had all the ball all the territory um but 19 turnovers just very unlined Alik they’re normally very clinical and and and when they go to the corner nine times out of 10 They Come Away with points they’re almost Crusaders version is sort of a rule of thumb around those 22 M entries so you got to think 15 times they’re in there one try yeah that’s the winning and losing for me that defensive to lose did you see the scenes today I’d say there’d be 100 150,000 people in the Square just absolutely going ballistic like that’s some serious passion I got sent it on Instagram um by someone who watches the Pod and I saw it this morning I was like my gosh that is that’s fan engagement if you ever want to see it yeah I saw the scenes and obviously um know a couple guys that have played in there and just seen what it means to them um it’s a lot but yeah I definitely think it was to come back DP to um to L I definitely think it got away from them I think you know you talk about defense wins championships and I was hoping probably that to people probably not thinking that you know making that much tackles would be good for them but that’s what they had to do to be able to get the job done and they had 24 points off kicks as well you know they all discipline both teams had a high penalty R 15 16 respect for both teams but like any time you can have 24 points in a final with grimos or um who was that the 15 uh King been able to score points like that with the LI with the amount of opportunities that they had in the 22 area and not been able to score points um definitely one that got away but credited to us they were able to do in the final situations you know obviously James L got sent off during that period but they still got the job done through penalties and been able to win the game close close quarters in a really in a really really competitive game against two teams what do you see as the difference between the style of footy being played in that final and the style of footy we’re seeing down here in Super Rugby yeah I think probably it’s actually not too different if you look at lster I believe that’s probably the style we look to play as well like to go to the corner use the Chiefs and example on the weekend went to the corner didn’t come off and from that penalty hurricanes gr grew momentum you know most of the time you’ll see New Zealand sides um you know go to the corner I mean it was surprising if you look at the blue lose on the weekend they went to the corner but then took the three after a while you know which was which was different but I suppose they wanted those points and pressure but for the most part it’s that mindset of sevens rather than threes um but I think when it comes to finals footy points on the board um you know and take your opportunities where they are you know four visits for one try for the too team and that’s all you needed with the 24 points by the boot um yeah it was it was it it was weird for them to win I like like it just you just sort of felt like L were eventually going to break them down and and probably run away with it but they just hung tough 260 tackles that’s a lot of work that’s a lot of work 100 minutes it’s um she’s a big shift I tell you what there’s one thing for sure is I don’t know in what order but deont and Gibson Park are the two best halfbacks in the world they are seriously good like Jameson’s game is like he is just getting better and better I I mean Bren you’re B place to talk about it than me but he’s a freak at the moment he is I think we we’ve touched on with I think you know far being there in irand I think you know not just irand but L he’s a big part of their game and how it’s played you know we’ve talked around six a lot been able to be really good around I guess that team being evolved around Richie Mo for the Crusaders and I think everything was basing around Jon par here just a great even Theon as well know two guys that are different in a lot of ways but um it’s a a great way if you look if a young player be able to see how you can play at two different different different styles of N I think there are things they do similar but in all I think they’re pretty different but jeson his decision making around talked around a lot his his understanding of where to go with the ball whether it’s a bridge pass it’s an attacking kick been able to have a little snipe because he’s seen someone that’s overfolded so he’s been doing that for a long time in the depont you know the one thing that I find about there’s just so many highlights that you can have with them like you know they didn’t you know there’s one example that I had I think they made um shean made a big line bre drip of the hooker was it shean the hooker yeah made that big line break obviously got the ball strip from him but he comes all the way back she had almost scores the try and then he gets the steal just five M from the line you know so like there’s so many things that the punk can do very very well defensively attack kicking he’s your full threat and I could arguably say and when it’s all said and done you know if he gets a World Cup win in the next cycle hopefully for not for kiwis but I think for the French you’d have to put him down possibly being the best player that’s ever played he has to be that argument with the way that he is able to play um at International level has obviously with t we even a touch on seven he’s probably going to go and win a gold medal at the at the seven and that’s that’s another great thing there’s another great thing about the pawn is that he has even been in there fulltime this year with too he’s been playing sevens he’s had the opportunity to go play a couple seven circuit games so look two phenomenal players and I think you know the p got the win and obviously that’s one up on jeson but Json is there or thereabouts with him and the pwn I think they’re arguably two of the best NS in the world and actually not just the best nins but the best players in the world I believe in that part of the world it’s pretty incredible and jamson has defense to stopped upon scoring you know that they were right there with each other incredible players on both sides yeah and you just you know it just shows I think it shows to all young players out there like jerson couldn’t get a crack here in New Zealand look at his careerly Parks is the same Gareth enin you know like as one door shuts you know keeping that positive mindset and you know about you know having the ability to see opportunities and take opportunities and and that’s what Jamison’s done and then some he is um yeah just really proud of him you know because it could have been easy for him to give up do you think that the blues canes brumes Chiefs on neutral ground could beat to lose or ler yeah you think so yeah they’re not I mean you look aters cating this world club comp yeah like yeah you reckon it’s at a relatively even level the top Super Rugby with the top of the European competition yeah I know I’m going to get sprayed on YouTube but yeah that’s all we’re looking for I do yeah um you know if I didn’t think that then the or blacks wouldn’t win te matches like the proofs there but I understand like that’s a hell of those two teams have got a lot of Internationals in them and I suppose more particularly to lose their ability to buy players and really good players um is one thing but they seem to have something special there like if you look at you know Charlie fena uh Dro they all stay there I think even Luke McCallister was there for a while like it does seem like a special environment familywise and you know making players want to really turn up for Jersey there is something special about to lose and I think it’s like their third or fourth over the last five or six years so um there is the element of they’ve got the best players and they have the money to do so but you still got to create the environment for all individual players to come together and feed the collective and they seem to be able to do that fairly well they have an incredible history in the French top 14 don’t they and so that the town lives and breathes rugby it must help create something quite special yeah and then if you look at lster I mean it’s the Irish team really or the bulk of it so they they that b Darwin effect and the cohesive nature like they’re well placed to win but um absolutely I think we could go up there and and challenge them defensively you look at the hurricane site man like the forwards and their interplay and um ability to manipulate and as I was saying M Defenders have to make decisions it’s it’s a different game for them to face