Canyon has released a new e-bike! We look at the Canyon Grizl:ON, potentially the bike to answer all your commuting hopes and dreams. Si and our special guest, Matt, test out the e-Bike on their regular commute to work. Will their commute be transformed by this electric bicycle?
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00:00 Intro
00:59 How long do e-bike batteries last for?
02:54 How much does weight matter on an e-bike?
04:23 Do e-bikes make riding easier and safer?
06:07 Why are e-bikes so expensive?
06:45 How expensive is it to maintain an e-bike?
09:34 Is an e-bike faster?
09:53 Our commute to work
12:03 Has your opinion changed on e-bikes?
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Cruising at 27kmph means the motor isn't doing anything (legally).
Ebikes need to be derestricted to make sense on the road.
I love riding my Trek eMtb to work. It makes my day before my day starts 🙂
As a 60-year-old keen cyclist who weighs the wrong side of 130kg, I'm going to +1 to pretty much all of this.
The best bit of e-biking was a part of my commute in a 20-limit and a gentle gradient, just enough to bring the speed down to around 10-12mph on a normal bike. This was also through a village with buses and people in cars wanting to do 20-25. With the e-bike, I'm at 15.5mph which is close enough to the limit that people just hung back much better, left me much safer. Of course, lifting the daft 25kph limit to allow an e-bike to run at 20mph would be ideal but I feel there are enough worries in Westminster without raising that little issue.
I'd emphasise one point about the modes: if you want to head out for a fitness ride, just turn the power down. You don't have to use it and I easily get over 100 miles to a charge. That is about double the suggested range, because I very seldom leave it more than in minimum assistance. Turbo mode gets used for hills or traffic lights but is soon turned down. When commuting regularly, I'd find myself using assistance riding in, so I wasn't a sweaty mess, but minimal assistance riding home where I could let the endorphins flow.
I don't need my ebike but I do love riding it.. I find myself go twice as far
Had my ebike now for well over two years and as a house husband use it to carry groceries (basket/backpack). Love it and the best investment $A2K – much cheaper than the motorcycle/car/aging 15 speed bike. I am 65 years young.
Nice bike❤
I still prefer ebikes with full fenders
FWIW: Torque-pedal sensing superior to Cadence-pedal sensing!
Had a Tern GSD S00 before covid lockdown and the commute to the office was great. Great huge panniers i could shove my laptop bag into, gym bag and anything else i needed for the day.
Reguarly swung by Lidl on my way home and did a full shop – made no real difference to the ride.
Sold it during lockdown as it just wasn't getting enough use. Would love to pickup something similar again for taking my two year old out on rides but I still think the cost of Ebikes, much like EV's are rediculous. Especially now that the energy saving trust have stopped their Ebike loans.
Pete in Wisconsin USA here. After more than 20 years of commuting by bicycle, I think you guys are nuts for riding without gloves or without eye protection.
E-bikes are a great addition to my transportation options. With one, there are no hills and no headwinds. It is easy to bring home the "tonnage" on mine. My e-bike was my only transportation when my car failed three years ago (all of June-September of 2021).
got my first ebike last month, Haibike trekking 5 with build in lights and full mudguards and rack. been doing 30 mile commute 2/3 times a week for last 7 years on a touring bike. felt like I was selling out as a cyclist by going electric but agree with this video. It has put a spring back into my commute, now hills and headwind don't exist to me and the extra weight doesn't matter I carry my pack lunch and laundry in a giant pannier bag which I used to do on alternate days on my motorbike.
Thala for reason
My experience with E bikes is quite different:
Last year service and brakes cost me 200 Euro. I did only 1000 km.
So it is 0,20 Euro per km.
My electric cat cost me also 200 Euros service for 15000 km.
So service for my car was only 0.01 Euro per km.
Electricity costs me about 0,40 per kWh, so it is about 0,06 Euro pr km.
So finally Car: 0,07 Euro per km.
E bike 0,20 Euro per km .
So it is much mire expensive to use an E bike than an electric car!
Nevertheless I do enjoy my E bike!
Fair weather Radpower Bikes rider here in Canada. Can't wait for the weather to be hospitable for riding to work.
Totally agree with your findings. I don't have to worry about being over 40 and out of shape. I have ran out of battery (on purpose) and it isn't horrible. Get in decent shape when I am riding it. Hills are smoothed out and not painful.
Also fun and feel safer in traffic due to ability to get out of an intersection and into a bike lane fast.
It's fun! Love it!
We both have reisse and Muller bikes (cruiser and swing) for everyday use and hardly use the now one car anymore. One other big thing, is the hub, belt drive they have is more reliable, albeit more expensive, but it is worth the extra).Normally around 1500-2k miles a year. Paniers (are a must) on both and we can do a weekly shop between us, or two after work trip with all work stuff too. Charge the battery once a week, and half the time I am currently cycling I am not actually using any power…. Winner. Dropped to one car, saved on insurance, running costs and fuel. Get bike serviced twice a year and we have saved a fortune. People who live in the same clos as me basically get to work in the same part of town at basically the same time and have sat in traffic for ages while I just cruise past stationary traffic.
Riding to work is not about the start or the journey, it’s all about the destination. Does it have stairs? Locks? Are you willing to leave your bike out of your sight for extended periods of time? All of these makes riding your bike somewhere a huge mistake.
The better way? EUC. It has more range and you can stick it under just about any table, at work, at a restaurant, anywhere.
I have spent $2500 on my ebike about 6 yrs ago. Best purchase ever. I have replaced tires, brakes, a new battery, new cassette, new chain, all a few years ago. I use it to go to work and everything else.
What the hell is up with your front fender??? Useless…
A genuine concern is getting mugged for it went riding, esp. in big cities like London.
I just ordered my ebike yesterday =D. I can't wait to finally get it
Excellent video! I just bought more of an off road model and if it works out I will probably get a commuter as well. Thank you. I tried adding a 350 watt motor to a kickbike and that was an utter failure. Added a lot of weight and not enough power to help on the hill the only place I needed it.
Towing a Micro Trailer on an E-Gravel-Bike would be informative
One of the nicest looking gravel e-bikes. I'd love to try one out except I can't because they are online only.
Commuting since 2012 with my Raleigh Stoker 36-40 (S-Pedelec), 16km each way. After nearly 21000 km í´m still happy with it. Bought a new battery in 2023 for 750 euro (Panasonic 36V-system), maintenance is easy (caring about the chain after each rainy day), changing the drivetrain after every 1500km for myself, using wintertires (Conti Wintercontact) and changing brakepads every year. Next bike will have a beltdrive and a hub gear (even easier to maintenanace)…
I would not consider butt up, head down, no panniers, no mudguards, tight bodysuit optimal for a 20K commute. Much rather sit up straight in my office attire on a Gazelle Avignon and not have to change clothes or shower at journey's end.
I hope they make a pedelec (45km/h) version of it also. Then I buy one.
I do 42km one way. At 25km/h I have to start peddling at 4:30 in the morning. Know, with my Stromer st3 I do the same trip in just over one hour.
Commuting with an e bike is super cheap and fun. I love it. I use car only on rainy days and weekend shopping. For casual riding I still find simple non e bikes more fun.
My first ride on the ebike, I forgot to switch the power on and forgot to change gear.
Second ride, I remembered the power and lights and what a difference. When power set, it was easier to push away from a stop. Didn’t need as much power as I thought I would.
The problem with commuting is getting ran over. Even if you’re in a bike lane on a road where you might only see 1-2 cars over the few miles, those 1-2 cars traveling in the opposite direction won’t see you and will try to run you over. Eventually they will succeed… from experience, you don’t fare well vs a huge chunk of metal. So commute if you can handle the risk or have nothing to live for!
No fenders, no rack, no lights. Yeah… great for commuting 😂
why would I get one of these and not an illegal conversion like all the delivery riders that go flying past me at 40mph for less money
The main things to add:
1. You can be cited for going too fast on your e-bike
2. Some bike paths are restricted for Class 3 e-bikes, and you can be fined for accessing those paths.
Last year ranger stopped me on a bike path (designed only for bikes) and cited for going too fast, running a stop sign, and for riding Class 3 bike on a bike path. I never knew Class 3 bikes were prohibited. Now, I know after paying $500. I live in California.
That's a handsome bike, for certain, but I'd really appreciate a discussion of the security practicalities. I own several bikes, including a Specialized Creo E-bike, and the commuting discussions rarely (if ever) get your how do you store such an expensive bike whilst your at work or popping in the shops. The provision of secure storage is a huge issue, and without better solutions in this regard, I'll never leave my Creo unguarded, and certainly not for hours on end. So, as a commuter bike, it's not for me.
The first thing you should know is it called motorcycle. It is very simple. E-bike is such a dumb name for motorcycles.
Wnen will the fall in battery prices be reflected in E-bikes
This is the only way to commute sustainably. The assistance leaves something in the tank for those weekend training rides. IMO
My commute is 45km each way – wonder how long the bike would hold up?
Could you do a review on the company swytch and their ebike converter kits? How to they compare to buying an actual ebike?