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    3 two one and welcome back to chasing the racing hey on that note welcome back to the podcast brought to you by OMG racing Bennett and JCT truck and trailer H and sponsor for this pod which is the Street Diner this man opposite and oh I was about to

    Jump the gun on introductions but I think the voice has already given it away I think it’s given it away it has slightly and the other voice we’ve got to my right here is our other co-host the sexy the mysterious Christian idden how you doing son I mean love my intro

    It’s it’s what I do you know that 20 quid you owe me yeah pay up more than 20 quid and obviously Our Guest needs no introduction Le Johnson and this is the stupidest question in the world how you doing no it’s not that’s probably the most common question but not the

    Stupidest one good I’m actually good to be honest I’m a lot better than um I probably was expecting to be at this sort of time cuz it’s got to like the frustrate I can’t get the word out frustrating stage now of I’m not that sore so my brain’s tricking me into

    Thinking I want to do things and then you think about it and then you can’t do it so then you get pissed off and then you forget about it and then you just go around in this circle of whereas like when you’re can you swear on this you

    Can all you [ __ ] when you’re like um properly [ __ ] your brain never puts the idea of doing something in your head because it just wants to cabbage on the sofa so yeah that’s that’s wor for pain but like this Point’s more frustrating for your head cuz you’re like raging cuz

    You want it especially like the last two days the weather’s been turned into summertime in like two days and I’m not so bad now cuz it’s back ring again well you’ve just been on the phone organizing some bike baits and trailer parts and all sorts So you you’re not not doing

    Anything no like that’s what I said like the guys um the guys don’t stop because I’m not ready you know they still have to get everything ready for when I’m ready so we’re not going to like I’m not going to walk out of the hospital one

    With M off and them them go all right we need to build the bikes now so like yeah they were talking about the trailer needs to go for a six week trailer test we’ve just had some work done on the trailer um it’s they’re going to wash it

    Then cuz it’s going to get some new graphics put on plus they’re building bikes they’re ordering clutches and just all the bits that you need for building new bikes as well so that’s a bit strange cuz that’s not normally a rider conversation that’s a team manager conversation but we’re like but that’s

    Kind of your role anyway but I guess we’ll get to that the last time you were on was the start of 22 I think with with Paul Jordan well I tell you what you actually did a lot of homework on this and looking back yeah I watched his

    Videos and I watch the ads so he he text me he texted me to say you owe me because I watch the adverb I don’t know how much you think I get paid per ad on YouTube and stuff I’m I’m sorry he he knows fine well I bet you’ve looked it

    Up you owe me this I’m telling you now three and a half P I’ve watched but we have we have plugged into his electric and I’ve charged my phone so I think we’re about even yeah yeah he juice he’s brought every utensil out of his house

    He heard to charge stuff that he doesn’t even use gar he’s got the band’s claws drying on the back there it’s got to be done absolutely got to be done but I’ll tell you what it’s mad like going tripping down memory lane you are actually the

    First one in this studio yeah at episode 56 which is just absolutely nuts you know like Chrissy got the studio built and like sorry londy did all the hard work chz he had the idea and it’s just mate how how long ago was that then well

    I was just I read on the thing it was 2019 but I don’t know which part of 2019 I tell you what was mental so obviously when in the leate like when in the yours you can’t even let me use a toilet and it was terrifying because to turn around

    Obviously you’ve got your son’s height little Jesse’s yeah height on that and I’m thinking have you lived here since 2019 then yeah so we’re in this house now nearly at the end of this year it’ll be 5 years so yeah since he was he would have been one yeah so he’s turning six

    Now on April fools so that is hold on Jesse was born on April fools was born at 13 13 minutes 13 minutes past 12 on April fools he was born I cuz I taxed my mates and they all just went CU I’m always like witing them up obviously

    They just went [ __ ] off I had to send him a photograph to prove the point I was like he’s real I’m telling you he’s here and he’s real and this is happened on April Fool’s 13 as well which is your race number number yeah 1es past uh 13

    Minutes past 12 on April fools bless him that is mental and then what hold like actually Christiane did the hardwork We messaged Grace and obviously Grace is at school which is I call watching his YouTube videos hard work wait oh what a compliment that a compliment did fall

    Asleep no but which which episode was the last one you and Paul Jordan were on yet again on this on this which is me which episode was that that was one50 I think it was that’s me you you’re like the M ly of this podcast aren’t you like

    Sta I know a little bit is that the right word stat statistician yeah I don’t know too many s’s in that I think yeah too many s’s statian no yeah so say that statian oh by the way in the background yeah yeah would would like to

    Explain this by the way you know for a lad who was just talking about I just have to put uh book by parts and do a little bit of trailer stuff we’ve got a a television crew in here on Chase and the racing can you explain this side of things so it’s like

    Um I don’t know how to we’ve discussed this so this it’s a documentary that they’re doing right and can I can I explain it like that way you can say what you want on Chase and the race and these are facts what what what are we allowed to say we’re just

    Waiting for lawyers to get back to us what’s she’s playing bloody what’s that game called she playing Bubble Burst whatever it is off of Fruit Ninja basically the the documentary is about uh road racing or the but not not as in like anything you’ve ever seen

    It’s about the people the people that do it and then the people that help the people do it or support them people and actual I don’t know the highs and lows of all that everything outside of the actual craziness of what is the racing kind of everything but the racing

    There’s going to be a little bit racing now if I ever get back on a motorbike they might get some footage but it’s more behind the scen stuff is that kind the skin what what motiv the racer what motivates a racer do with sports people and the mentality and the impact

    Psychology of I mean not to there’s no athletes in this doc but you got one hold on he’s near two minutes he’s an athlete he was going to Pedal down is hold on we’ve got some people with a good idea Le what motivates a racer what like is it in different ones

    So some are motivated by their uh religious beliefs some are motivated by the pound note which would be Christian that’s that’s not me um other of us other of us are motivated For the Love of the sport that’s me I’m here for the love of the sport

    Bally yeah pound notes and love of the sport pound some people both he means that cuz that’s what he says to me all the time I can’t wait to be a pound behind you people are unbelievable can we change the subject though can we talk about something else CU obviously we’re

    We’re rough they’re doing a documentary for the BBC they don’t know what platform is going to go out on yet so well it’ll be like as in BBC 2 oh big up bbc2 send all your checks to to my address please um I that’s different that’s TV that’s not

    Right um yeah so it’s a documentary on like what we explained but they don’t know whether it’ll be out at the end of the year or next year or whatever I imagine there’s quite a lot of content that’s not the right word is it yeah whatever footage yeah to again so that’s

    Cool so we’ve come in and basically yeah breaken the day up broke the day up we we’ve moved the BBC out the way for a chasing the racing podcast so that’s pretty cool Grace will be proud will that could be the title move over BBC so loads has happened obviously

    Since the last time you came on this podcast where do you want to start I’m trying to think so 2022 what happened in 22 leading up to the crash I don’t really do you know something that I don’t really remember a whole not that I don’t remember a whole lot like when we

    Talk about it I’ll remember it but like this sounds B like say even at the the racer Awards we I won an award for like race of the year and honestly I think that was just a sympathy award that they give me I I believe but they

    Wrong and told me about it and I didn’t remember I didn’t remember what race it would be for and I was too embarrassed to ask cuz it was like he’s going to think I’m in what year like for last year so the start it was like a silver

    One of the British cuz I won some races at the start of the year so it was one of them but I’d like I knew I’d won some races but had no idea what the race was like I couldn’t really and I was never going to say so that’s playing it down

    Just a little bit so before before you actually went to the Northwest you were leading the British Super Sport Championship yeah you did the double at Silverstone he had a dnf on the first one at donton I can’t remember why yeah I can’t remember and then a third or a

    Fourth yeah and then so you’re leading the British Super Sport like yeah sorry yeah the the year was going well like it was go like cuz we joke like all the time even when we at the track there like there’s like Road Racers and you

    Racers like you and do you know like cuz it annoys me a little bit when somebody tries to put you in a bit of a category or what you just we just ride mot bikes I mean it’s the same sort of thing so in my head like at the start of 22 I

    Thought I’m going to have a good cracker trying to win the British Championship I know I’ve like I’ve always tried but like you were feeling good properly tried like I wasn’t going to wait till after the roads and save myself and then win some races at the end of the year

    Whatever all right I’m going to go gungho here and whatever happens happens and yeah we got as far as the Northwest and nothing was happening so I was more I was probably more frustrated about that sense because people sort of think automatically oh you’re probably upset about missing the T in the Northwest

    Which I was massively but I was missed I was more upset that I’d like proper got myself sorted out to have a go win in the British championship and in my head I wanted to try and win the British Championship on the TT on the same year because that hasn’t happened for like

    Quite a long time do you think that’s possible yeah when do you know when that last happened it was either pler or David Jeff right yeah so they’re they’re both well David’s obviously passed away but player’s about 300 years old officially so um even though he

    Lies um so yeah it’s a long time ago so like when he was at factory Holland I think and he was he won Super Sport championship and then he won at the TT that year I think that might be wrong someone’s probably going to comment in

    Now and say you’re talking [ __ ] but that in my head that’s what I wanted to try and do but we never got further than practice nor yeah just the question on that one because I actually didn’t realize someone had won a a British short circuit and uh because I’ve always

    In my own head the road just put me off because I thought I can’t concentrate on both but I guess you you and those guys have enough expertise around I I think realistic to try and win a Super Bowl championship would that would be a stretch you know what I mean there’s

    Winning British championships and there’s winning a BSB Championship David W the Superstar won the super sport and I was trying to win the Super Sport so there’s like I’m not trying to play them down like they’re good rers and good enough classes but to win a Super bag

    Championship is like I think you need to focus on that maybe more so than what year was it with the Barry Sheen movement came in you know when they banned you know was it the Formula 1 championship the world championship and they had to go to the TT what year was

    That that’s like you’re mid 880s I think or early ‘ 80s I bet it be so the F1 TT used to be what world to bike is now yes yeah yeah but it it basically had uh the olster oh had all the roads had all the big roads yeah not all but

    One gwi but then you also went to BR or wherever else a summer in Finland or something maybe as well uh yes so was that the last time it was done then if you know what I mean like no like the like cuz you had to be a part of that

    Championship you know what I mean but yeah but they different British champ yeah but now everyone like probably only people that run like in the British like you got Pete and Dean mhm that’s it isn’t it you know like but like to say to win a whole championship and a TT

    Yeah that be well I think look all honesty mcginness was a good short C around yes he L interest whatever but he was a doer do you know what I mean well if you’re good enough to ride in a Grand Prix race it’s like he’s fast he’s won British

    Championship races so but yeah I think same thing his interest was in but you also have another hat and we did touch on it then you like your team structure I’ve never quite understood your team structure but you kind of are your team but like you are your team because there

    Is no Team without Lee Johnston but obviously you’ve got good sponsors and you’ve got good help and yeah just talk us through how your set works so before before I was team manager um Roger my crew chief was the team manager and then he decided that he wanted to go and uh

    Buy a barge and just do a bit of cruising about on that so was like he’s um he’s really really good crew chief at like at both the roads and the the North or the British championships that’s hard to get so you could be a really good BB

    Crew Chief and then it’s a whole different idea of you’re not looking for oneth into turn two do you know what I mean you’re looking for other things out of the bike like to to get around a whole lap and be easier for six laps and

    All these things so I really wanted to keep Roger but I couldn’t afford then to employ another team manager as well as have a good crew chief as well so I had no option so and I had to to just take on and run the team and do everything he

    Set everything up for me in the sense like he’s to like I can ring him at any point and go gez how do I do this or who do I get this off or whatever but I’m like nearly self-sufficient now that I know all these contacts the funny thing

    When I started was that that doesn’t happen so when I’d be ringing these to players and they’re like oh hey who is it and I’m like it’s Lee they like why are you ringing or do you know what I mean so like have you not got a person

    For this yeah I’d probably like saved maybe 50 Grand a year in doing deals with companies like suppliers because I’m there haggling the life it’s not even my money I’m my sponsor’s money and stuff but I’m just like I’ve got that in me but I want to just hle these people

    You know what I mean and I’m like and then because they’re dealing with me they’re like that’s okay because I’m the one basically if I do the deal and I go I’m going to have a go with this this year I’m going to win or I’m going to

    Try to win or I’m going to do this that and the other and then when you get to the end end of the year and you’ve done that deal and done quite well or won a race or whatever you feel like you’ve come good on your promise type thing so

    I I think I get far more um like enjoyment or satisfaction from that I know you do when you go to the team or you know sponsors in your team and you’ve become friends with them even though they’re not your sponsor they’re a team sponsor so when you go into

    Hospitality after you’ve won a race you got your chest out you know what I mean it feels good doesn’t it know so you imagine that even after you’ve done the deal or even like say personal sponsors only so it’s even it’s exaggerated so it feels good I think to to bring companies

    On board and do all that as well as all the [ __ ] side’s not good though cuz like all the I do all the organizing so well there’s fairies for the TT houses for the TT Northwest fair for Northwest BSB like you heard me talking about sorting out the truck stuff and sorting out

    Tractor units and I do all the lads wedes staff invoices Parts invoices all that side of it I I don’t enjoy but anytime I’m doing or thinking about it I just go well this is what helps me win or so it’s just like a you’ve taken on

    Two full-time jobs you were just a rider now wait I’m not even going to say that is that you have a job being like well Christy says this to me all the time like anytime I’m like fed up or getting down she like leave there’s loads of people that would love

    To ride a motorbike for living and love to probably run a team so you can’t really moan about and not that it makes it any easier but you can’t really moan about there loads of people would love to be in that position so I’m going to

    Jump forward quite a lot but you have run other Riders within your setup as well yeah like I’m going to really jump forwards but like is that something you would continue I don’t know because it’s like like I said doing all the crap jobs but getting the joy of riding the bike but

    You’d end up doing it and not get the and I speak to more more and more like team like even like say like will or someone would talk to me now a little bit like a team sometime and they go ah yeah but you’re still getting a ride the

    Mot likee and I’m like yeah so I don’t know if that stops and you’re going to the race weekend and I’m watching someone do bad on a weekend and I’m going like I’ve sorted out all this and you’re riding around there like an absolute in in a way did you kind of

    Have that last year because you had Seth jump on your bike and it was probably probably not the easiest yeah I don’t think he yelled with the bike that that easy so did you have did you have some frustration watching someone else on your bike or it doesn’t frustrate cuz I

    Know they’re not my bikes you know what I mean now when I’ve got this injured this time quite a few people have wrung looking for the bikes and they have to ring me because I’m so they don’t ring oh that’s hard is it yeah but it’s not

    The ambulance Chaser actually has to go to the guy in the ambulance that’s like but that’s not a normal thing so if you think about it they would normally ring a team manager but they have to message me or sometimes they have messaged Roger

    Comes to me hi mate how are you yeah but yeah and you know they’re not bothered about how you are cuz I wouldn’t be bothered at one bike so it I’ve got no emotional attachment to them they’re not my bikes someone else owns them the team

    I’m lucky to get to ride them and that’s it so there’s no like I I think saying that they’re mine is is f it’s like it’s like having Rich Ms if you hang around with them it doesn’t make you rich you’ve just got rich Ms you know what I

    Mean that’s the it’s the realistic thing the bikes are all nice and the team’s good and everything but none it’s not actually mine I don’t I don’t own it even though I might run it and stuff so if you think like that you’re going to you’re into like a false false sense of

    But going back to that first year of like fully committing to being everything know the rider and team manager and X Y and Z yeah first round was there any regret of taking on that role no cuz we we figured it out really well straight away so like say had a BB

    Weekend there’s four or five staff um so Roger would still run it like as in he was still the boss so the guys would never come to me for uh so basically we’ve got like a parts list in the truck the trucks fully loaded with spares so whatever they use they’ll just write

    Down and then they tell me but if they need things like the the fuel contract the tire contract I have all that sorted out before but if there’s any problem Roger would nearly always sort it on a race weekend or he might ask me and then

    We’d all just sit down on a Monday or talk on a Monday and go right all this needs order and so I go like from Sunday night regardless good b or whatever I still to up Monday morning and then order all the parts and do everything

    Then so it worked out right like a race weekend I was still just the rider your head was clear and you couldn’t you couldn’t do that but the the hard part was like when we were running somebody else so say if we went straight from the Northwest to or the basb to the

    Northwest and the other Rider had wrecked the bike or crashed the bike so then I’d be getting the first day of the Northwest setting everything up camping down then that night I’d be on order and parch to build there bike cuz the the next BSB was the weekend after that’s

    When it used to be like why have I done this or why am I doing cuz I wasn’t like I wasn’t making any money out of it wasn’t making me any more money or any other but it was like just that’s what the team wanted to do at the time so I

    Couldn’t I could not do it so that that was the only time when it used to frustrate me if it was like a way where I should be just concentrating on racing and I was still having to to order other bits and pieces but that’s part of

    Growing up I suppose cuz like what was it like but you ran Nathan Harrison at the classic TT on your VFR was it the rc45 the rc45 sorry and it’s like was it was it different running someone on the roads to British yeah I was so stressed

    Out because it was like I’ve never known what it’s like to see there and I just sat off and you’re likeo do you in your own world just cruising around yeah you don’t really care and he sat off and I’ve never had to look at the you know

    Like the sector like I didn’t have a clue how it even worked and I was like where’s he got to now Neil and he’s like oh he’s at such and such and he’s nearly here I was like how do you know that and he’s like oh look this a light up and I

    Was like this is amazing then the bike broke down and I was like standing there flapping and milky blessum looked at me cuz I don’t know the names of anywhere even to and milky came over to me and he goes oh he’s that such and such the H

    Yeah the REO in he’s fine the bikes broke down I was like this is like such a well oiled and I’m just like I I’m I’m good friends with Ethan but I’m not his wife or his sister or his mom or anything and I just thought this is

    Horrendous like this is why does anyone enjoy this or what did that give did that give you some idea what Christy potentially goes yeah I haven’t told her that obviously but no I just I just I did think and are we going to edit that out when even when you look around and

    See the other people in the like even my mechanics like my like obviously we’re very close all of us you know mean we’ve been together for a long time but like they you could see that connection they had with Ethan and they were like I

    Could you can see you can see it when worry in someone’s face most of the things you can and I could say it’s like these poor boogers get tortured here for two weeks worrying that they’ve tightened everything and it’s their bike you know they’ve built it it’s you’re in

    Their hands sort of thing so yeah I wouldn’t that yeah team there must be yeah would would you do it again like with anyone running someone running I’m talking years like you know you’re going to come back race and you’re going to come back to this but after that that

    Taste that you had yeah I don’t know if that’s maybe yeah put put you off it yeah no that yeah honestly yeah like BR you don’t have any of that a British champ like I used to make me laugh when people say oh I’m I’m nervous a British

    Championship you I I understand you get nervous but not that feeling of nervous the nerves you get sitting at the TT or the Northwest is like different but sitting at the British champ I can well I can’t imagine what it’s like for Glenn and them even going to the last round

    And that’s pressure CER nerves but it’s like the other danger nerves is maybe different nerves to the way people look at you and stuff like that at the TT you’re willing to crash on a short tget yeah you know what I mean when you go TT or roads it’s like you’re willing to

    Push but crash is a different there is a there is a difference on that side of things is there yeah haven’t quite figured that part out yet I I tell you what let’s let’s um let’s just jump straight into it you know confidence was good confence high you

    Had the team you had everything rolling it was just and for people who have been living under a rock Le’s got Vlogs out you’ve got your social media presence you’ve documented Borderland like when did you start the Vlogs actually that’s a really good question you know I’m going to say like Co it

    Must have been bored Christy taught me into it um cuz we were bored it was like a bit of a joke and then by the way chy does all people not know she does all the editing I just I was already talking crap so vill and it was just like a 1%

    More effort and so I don’t do anything yeah she does everything no but like even it’s almost like you’ve been doing Vlogs your entire life cuz like pretend you’re not here for a second I’m going to talk about you but it’s like it’s a case you’re such a character in the

    Sport but also a serious competitor if you know what I mean you can’t it’s like if you were just a character you borderline don’t you have to earn the respect after that you’re fast and a character and that’s what the sport needs so when the Vlogs came out was

    Like he’s been doing these for years and it’s it’s actually Co there’s the answer it used to irritate me thinking what I have to be careful the way I say this like people’s opinion of of like I used to get people come up to me and go oh

    You’re so lucky you know you’ve got this bike and this team and everything I’m like didn’t fall out of the [ __ ] skate one morning like I didn’t wake up here and it turned up like it like you don’t know I used to to go in myav van

    With my dad from Ireland like every night on the ferry and like you go I’m telling you now once you race a br’s hatch and have a [ __ ] weekend and you have to drive back to hollyhead get the two in the morning boat with your dad

    And then go to work with him the next morning you might not speak it to to Tuesday you I mean that’s not and they think because they maybe didn’t see that they automatically just think oh well it’s like the world nowadays if they want everything off you just order

    Something off your phone or it’s like off wish or whatever it’s like oh I’m just going to be M about racer tomorrow I’m was going to get that it’s like this is not the way it happens what I mean they don’t say all and that’s sort of

    Why the Vlog started as a joke and then I thought oh I’m just going to like be honest and just see like some days are crap you know what I mean and I spend most of my life on the m62 driving I mean it’s crap but if I didn’t do that I

    Wouldn’t get to ride motorbike so that’s sort of way I wanted it to be and then I think the best thing if if you just say it how it is then you never have to worry about you know know keeping up this glamorous appearance that I’ve got

    You know I mean I’m like the same and I think Whit taught me that like people meet me all the time with Whit him and they’re like oh he’s just the same as I like yeah he’s literally that’s the way he is he’s the same person on the TV as

    He like he doesn’t know how to be any different so I think that’s the best sort of way to be and then you’re not fooling anyone or and your Vlogs are very um open and honest probably like some of the most open and honest things

    You could at time i’ got to admit it’s almost difficult to watch like the ones that you’ve had since your Northwest crash you’re obviously going through some dark time pretty heavy stuff is that something you want to talk about yeah yeah it doesn’t it doesn’t bother

    Me I I think at the time it’s funny I laugh at the time when I was doing it I was probably that off my head that I didn’t know what I was doing but Christy was like oh it’s the right thing to do

    And it it it was now I know it was the right thing to do but if I had a waited another three or four weeks and being more conscious of what I probably wouldn’t have done it you know what I mean wouldn’t yeah yeah but that’s fine

    But like some of the things have had like people come up to me after it like people talking about suicide and all these things I was like I had no idea I was just waffling about what was happening and it was like hard and just saying exactly what was going on and

    Then when people then started saying like how it helped them or what was happening I was like and then Christy was like well that was the you know that was sort of the point of of doing it just cuz all these people everybody thinks you are like these superheroes to

    Put on these letters they’ve got an a mint job they don’t have to work for a living get paid a few quid life could not be easier you know what I mean you get hurt you disappear you come back put your suit on you’re superhero again they

    Don’t see all the suffering and that was like the I just wanted to go right this is what actually happens when you hit a wall at 50 or 60 M hour on your bik you know what I mean this is the suffer and this is what your per family has to go

    Through everybody has to go through and that was the point of like this is not this it is great like we’re really lucky to do what we do but this is the [ __ ] the highs are high but the lows can be can be really low of the of the injuries

    That you sustain then at the Northwest crash what was the hardest to recover from the mental side or the physical side I think at different times different thing so like at start the start the first thing was like my head like I literally at the time I and you

    Also mentioned it was a lot of guilt involved in oh yeah but I know like I I believed at the start that I like went to sleep and somebody else had woke up like I like I thought there was somebody else in my this is it sounds mental now

    Saying about it but it was that like gone in my own head I was like there’s somebody else here and the the best thing that happened me there was a young surgeon that come in or and he started talking to me and he wasn’t I don’t know

    If he was even mine he was on [ __ ] he was only like he was just ended up we just chat we chatted every day I don’t know whether come to my room dinner time or what when he was interested and he was like talking he was like well how

    Would you feel the same person he’s like what do you do normally it’s like so you’re driven yeah you run the team yeah you ride motorbikes yeah you train like mad yeah you know you look after yourself yeah he says what all them things can you do now he says you can’t

    Go to the toilet you can’t wash yourself you can’t get out of bed you can’t go on your bicycle you can’t go on your motorbike it’s just so how would you feel like the same person even though that it wasn’t that but that was like

    And then I went oh yeah but it was like loads of people and I went to see psychologist and stuff and they told me like the simplest thing like I was like wasn’t even like this I was waiting to hear this like really intelligent thing but it was like there were always simple

    Things I like why could I not just think of that but you can’t at that time so at the at the start like for the first couple of weeks I was like gone I thought I’d let everybody down and all these things and that’s that was FR

    Ahead and then probably after a week of being out of the coma and stuff and then just the the volume of pain was just Savage like cuz you can’t like when you bre your arm or your leg you get little spells where you lay on the sof and you

    Get a bit comfy and you go it’s all right now do you know what I mean the pain goes away but when you bre your foot your famur your arm your shoulder your other arm your face your ribs both sets of ribs so like it just goes it

    Just goes round and round so like my foot would be sore then my fur then my shoulder then my arm then my foot then my fur and it was just like there was there was never a minute of off that was the like the intensity of it so you’re

    Never it was never all s at one point cuz that’s not possible but it was like you never got a second off you know what I mean I’d sleep for I used to go to take metabolis at 9: and a sort of you takes them like 20 minutes or half an

    Hour to work I’d doze off and I’d wake up at like 10 10 and I’d be like [ __ ] I have to wait for 4 hours before I’m allow more tablets and everyone would be going it used it used to get paranoid at like 8 7 8:00 at night cuz every was

    Going to bed like you’d be sitting there L down there going 4 hours 3 hours 45 that was literally she just wish the night away then you take some then you slept for another hour and then you take some else and then everyone would get up

    And you’d have this like like when you do a 24-hour race when you get to like light time you’re like oh this is great everyone’s getting up now and that was that’s all that happened for like a month probably like what were you like with like you know how um drag Guinness

    Very a tra adult like Joe arroy on the show you know he’s did you have a they never they never give me that to be fair I I don’t deal well on morphing I don’t like it and um so when I left I can’t remember what tablets there were

    Like um but it was just tablet form and I remember when I got here so I sign myself out of the hospital Neil come and got me in the van cuz they wouldn’t fly me over cuz I’m a so he just come and picked me up and I boot myself on the

    Ferry and I had to check back into Huddersfield to get some tablets and I’ll never forget the doctor he just was like looking through the L and he just went these tablets won’t be any use for for that there and I was like oh can I

    Have something else and he was like no this is just what you’ve been prescribed it must have been the chemist that said or something I was just like what you wouldn’t just give me something else and then after that I was like he was right cuz it was just literally sore all the

    Time so that’s I never got hooked on anything because I didn’t have anything good enough to to get hooked on I think that was the it yeah but yeah but like we’re going to have to go back a little bit F but I want to talk about the buildup to

    That race you know the Northwest we’re just going to talk about like we’re talking about everything was going in in your Vlogs everything was flowing you know youve won race at silverston what I like about him he just downplays everything doesn’t he that was a big downplay massive down Championship is

    Like a downplay and a half exactly just cuz you’re your television M here the British Championship oh yeah Mr humble it’s like 8 game trophies a big deal you know so no but leading into that well to be blunt what can you what can you remember leading up to that race

    Oh nothing oh well to the when I crashed the my last memory and I was laughing about this is seeing Connor coming so we R out of the pits and Connor must have been he was rting out at the same time and I just give him a bit of a weave

    Like I said oh I’ll give you not saying that I’m faster than him but like he’s big so I’ll give you a slip stream round you know and he’d have done the same for me if we ever seen each other right out and that was my last memory so may Brien

    Switched Off from there I don’t even remember going around turn two or anything literally from Conor and then I woke up the 5 days later or whatever is it is it weird because it was filmed is it weird to watch something you actually did yeah so I I obviously that’s

    Somewhere in your brain but it’s been erased like the fact knowing that you were there in that moment and actually you don’t remember any of it yeah I tried to explain it like someone you know like someone says to you what’s your youngest memory and it’s not actually what you remember it’s what

    Someone’s told you you did when you were a kid do you I mean do you remember the memory or do you remember someone telling you that’s what you that’s so if I if I woke up in hospital right and you to whoever come in to see me first says oh lee you’re

    Not going to believe this we’re in the anchor somebody’s knocked you over the head and you’ve knocked yourself out and this is what’s happened and I I would not have known if no one ever showed me that footage or I wouldn’t have known any different you know what I mean so

    That’s the do you regret watching it no no cuz it like it was like I was already sore I was already broken it was like I wasn’t going to watch it and go you know you’re wear back think oh maybe if I don’t talk my front this time just

    Like wearing it back so yeah it was hard to watch cuz I’m like I know that cuz I was I was conscious and stuff so it’s like my brain is actually it it knocked me out but then I come around and my brain chose for me not to see any of

    That you know so that’s how how God knows how your body works or how smart it is to to do all that but yeah so I don’t know when the the the doctor spoke to me after but I don’t know when they give me whatever drugs to State me or

    Whatever at that point but from then I’ve no recollection till waking up in the um I don’t know what the right word is called like where like recovery or the tra oh you’re in you’re in intensive there for yeah because you they’ve got like there’s no walls in

    Intensive care they’re all glass things I don’t know why that is to see through or so the doctors can see you whatever but yeah that was my first sort of thing of of seeing that so from Conor cumins to Glass Walls was like he didn’t do any other practices

    Nothing that was at that was literally all Northwest on last memory kind of thing yeah no you can’t remember a lot prior to that like because even to the point where like the guys were ringing me there talking about parts and I didn’t know that we’d Tred Parts on a

    Certain bike and things like that you know like on the little ail things like oh where is these where’s these Wheels come from and they turned up on like the Tuesday of the Northwest and I’m like no proper of no um and but obviously I’ve got memories cuz then I’d seen pictures

    Of what we did on we all went out on the Tuesday night for some food and things like that there so yeah but no as far as going back and watching it probably the way I phrase It’s probably wrong but did you get worried about watching it cuz a

    Part like I’ve watched to cut my Crashers back and you click on and the only thing that run through my head is is this going to put me off yeah no you know that’s my my personal side it cu no because you I we’ve had this conversation about like writers opinions

    On some riters believe that nothing bad’s ever going to happen them you know what I mean I don’t know how that Everyone’s entitled to their own thing whatever gets them round you know I mean but I’m fully aware of like if you put your hand in the fire enough times

    You’re going to get burnt that’s the laws of the world you know what I mean so I I content with that and I can live with that and that’s you know I mean maybe that’s why I’m not that fast cuz I’m that’s in the ma head or whatever

    But yeah it doesn’t it doesn’t bother me in the sense where I can understand that and yeah watching her or whatever is not going to I think the only thing at the time when I come around like me and christe had some really good conversations about like I said to her

    You know like you and she would never say you know stop racing or whatever but I said like if I’m fit to race you know I want if I’m fit to do it properly I want to go racing but I’ve got no interest if I’m going back and my

    Shoulder’s not right or this and I’m just there for M for being there and I mean I don’t mean that in a a nasty way of anyone you know that’s not there or whatever just that’s my opinion of that’s what I want to I’m going to RK

    This I want to I want to be try because the only enjoyment you get is that P feeling do you know what I mean doing well so that was that was the rules and we sort of sat down and and said that and stuff so yeah that’s the only thing

    That and that so that road to recovery was going pretty well yeah me I lit this is laugh make laugh I two weeks before I crashed in Spain I literally woke up one morning and said to chrisy I was like you know what I feel good like I’m not

    Sore I feel fit I feel like there’s nothing nothing no part of my body’s hurting hurting I’m not limping I’m not like I felt really good so in the last year I’ve had two weeks of my life where i’ felt like me again you know like

    Fresh and and good so yeah cuz you I think I was on the first track that you did back which was angle C probably was it October maybe last year so you have been back on a bike for a bit a little bit and then I’ve seen you doing load

    Out in Spain we yeah we tried to we spoke about when I watched your Vlog obviously it said how you had sort of rushed out to go and do this the C Han of where you crashed so for those that were that are living under a rock Lee’s now hurt HT

    Again he’s got he’s got a cage on his leg you broke access on it is it just Tib and FIB yeah I mean just literally not a mark on me anywhere else and even anywhere else on my wasn’t even bruised my not so you went out track day yeah

    Can you remember everything oh yeah I was conscious yeah off and it made me laugh because there’s like some of them Spanish tractors Marshals are a bit if you never and this little Spanish K go to Kirk I know people but yeah he spoke real good

    English bless him you know we come over it probably only like 20 OD and I he’s like yeah all right and I was like no I broke my leg and then cuz I just said like I’ve broke my leg like I said and he went oh and and then I could see his

    Brain go oh [ __ ] he was like waving the flag and he started shouting on the radio I was like I’m all right and I looked down my foot was like the other direction a little bit and I was like oh if you got some uh gas and air but like

    A car they can’t like my English wouldn’t be great anyway but they couldn’t speak any English so I was like this here and the woman was like oh you can’t breathe I just like started them like pressing on I like no listen I can breathe I just want some drugs she was

    Like no you’re not allowed any drugs I was like oh God but they’re used like um so we get like gas in air or something but they use I don’t know why I’m looking at you guys what do you like they take when they like is in like a

    Recreational drug TR no the people take it cocain no if you didn’t I’m sorry if you didn’t hear that that was the smoothest delivery of the word cocaine in my life like what do you land yeah what do you get when you crash him get line line

    Line of coke don’t you like like what do you call it like not like people take it as a as a drug but it’s like a you down or I seen you with some kind of canister that was over here butam tra yeah ketamine so they give you inp she was

    Like you’re not allow gas in air but you can have ketamine I was like yeah that’s that’s the one so yeah just yeah that ripped me off till I went to the hospital and uh yeah they put the cast on me straight away and stuff and they

    Wanted to pin it out there but I had rung home and had speak to some did you just want to get home yeah I I did straight away I was like this is there was one doctor bless him and he could speak a bit of English but that was it

    There was I couldn’t even ask for a glass of water like nobody said and like that’s not there all I was there I should have been threaten to speak Spanish but I just thought this is I don’t need to be here right now I can’t negotiate an operation when I have no

    Idea what’s being said or anything so I I tell you what I must ask um you were speaking to a like you’re sponsoring family friend Roy Armstrong I have to give him a shout out cuz I get bolled if I don’t give him a shout out but he was

    Talk he obviously talking on the phone and he was saying like you know you’re in good F and you’re a beat about a horrible situation but he was talking about how you got an absolute Bollan off the doctor when you land yeah is that because of the yeah explain explain that

    You’re supposed to so I I sort of we’ve talked about this as well I like get a lot of enjoyment out of talk I’m away in out of situations I don’t know why OB so was at school but I managed to tell the surgeon in spe I got him so when you bra

    Your him F they put like a full leg cast on you so it’s like from your ankle to your balls basically so I thought well I can’t get on the plane with this thing so I talked him into cutting the cast down for me to below and then I got um

    Yeah some of the people from the track day company they were so good they buy promotions they come and pick me up at the hospital and we managed to get one of them do you know if you go into a Factory you get like a boot cover thing

    That goes over your shoes blue thing I need one of them cuz they’re going to see the cast so I got that and then I got some drugs out of the chemist I bought some crutches for €22 and he dropped me off oh not them English on Spanish ones were in the

    House he dropped me off at the track cuz my car was at the track or my boss’s car so it was automatic so I then drove that to the hotel I was staying at cuz I needed to get my stuff um cuz I was there me

    So I got my stuff book my flight and then I flew back I drove up to the airport the next day and flew back but um so yeah I got in on the crutches and then manag to BL a wheelchair in the airport but if you’re I tell you what if

    You’re ever at the airport again if there’s a big que just go to the wheelchair thing CU you get like street through all the security and everyone’s going with blue shoes on in a wheelchair but then I got through and the Bloody flate was led by

    Like 3 hours so I sat there was like the longest day of my life but mavan in England was um at Manchester Airport and I couldn’t drive Emanuel obviously so wh him bless him come on the train to meet me and some guy recognized me on the

    Plane sat behind me and started talking to me and I says oh M you know if you give me a push off he was in a rush I says you’ll get through security so he pushed me the whole way through Manchester airport so if he’s watching

    This he’s he’s messes me since and um he got me the whole way through like Manchester Airport’s massive pushed me the whole way out through security and then he was peing cuz he was like a bit of an older man and then once he got got

    To meet Whit as well that was like his payment I was like There He Go um so yeah then Whit Whit brought me back Whit brought me back to to hear and then the next morning I went to so I rung the hospital to try and tell them and she

    You just need to come d e so I went to the desk at Annie and the woman says uh y what’s wrong I said I’ve broke my leg she went all right well you’ve got a cast on it’s like Yeah I broke Yer and spe and she like looked at me and she

    Went all right sit down and then these people come over there’s like admin people or they’re not like a doctor or a nurse but they like take notes and stuff so she come and then she was like not convinced of what I was saying so then a

    Doctor come then a surgeon com and I was like this is all in the like the weai area I was like I’m sure this shouldn’t be happening and they were like I don’t think they believe me and then this other woman come and she was like go so

    What have you taken I like well like these Spanish pain or she was like no like what drugs have you taken I was like what do you mean she was like well no one why would you fly home with a broken leg like a day after without

    Taking I was like I’ve come from a track there I haven’t come from a beefer I’m like I’m like I didn’t know what you meant or was ever like it’s like I think because it was like normal me that was like film crew yeah normally quite sharp

    I probably would have like ripped daugh her again but I was like I had no idea what she was even talking I was like you’re going to do blood test I’m going to you’re pretty sure I’m going to be fine but yeah the doctor then went

    Mental that like she like do you realize how dangerous it is I like yeah but I took two of them uh blood plotting injections that morning so I thought I was like if I cut my finger i’ probably dead blood was why is it dangerous yeah that because you get blood clocked

    Apparently but I ivly got out of the hospital I thought right I need to go home the safest and the best thing is to be like in an English hospital so in my head I wasn’t trying to be brief or anything I literally that was the

    Process I want to go home I need to see this doctor this surgeon blah blah blah and then I just that’s what I did and then like Christy R like oh you need us to come out I was like no that’ll take longer I was like I can get there I can

    Get on the plane it’s fine I’m I’m sorted but the yeah the doctor didn’t see it that way in in the hospital he was like going bananas and the the crash itself wasn’t your fault no something broke on the bike a little r clip on the

    The pin that holds the pads in and it was first session just straight out so did the pin Sho work out or the AR pulls the pin in obviously and then the pin just come out like a new bake just been a really was proper looked after and I

    Just one in a one million chance and then I’ve spoke to people after and apparently this is something that happens on y you’re not sponsored by yamari oh om is that right yeah they’re officially yahar team but don’t worry about it and so yeah they run super

    Bikes they run super bikes people said that after and stuff but and then you could say like you could go down a m hole there going why this happened and everything but it happened you know what I mean that’s they have stopped making the R1 you know that don’t you to watch

    Your vlogs yeah they’ve discontinued the R1 they yeah so that that was it and then just operate so the next day then I got a temporary fixator put on which is like a real weird looking just screw into your shin and like some carbon bars down either side Jesse thought it was mint

    Cuz it looked like Lego um so that was on for a week they won’t they won’t put a cage or like a fulltime fixator cage on because the the bone had like pierced the skin a bit and it like so there was a cut so you’re not

    Allowed any broken skin for an infection or cuz then they might want to drill the rods and stuff so cuz you you had it fixated instead of rodded because because of racing yeah pretty much so the the chances of it like hurting my knee afterwards and then if it crashed

    Again and because when they R it goes down the center of the bone and like if you bend that again yeah remember I think it was Andy Reid he bent his one and then they can’t get it out you can’t get a bent Rod out of those B you know

    Since your feema um your FEMA break at the northwest have you had the metal work removed from that to go back racing no so is it because you had a rod like no no nothing like that no just literally because the the when they Rod your bottom of your leg there’s quite a

    Not a high percentage but an okay percentage of like your knees not the what it normally is and I’m obsessed with cycling so that just wrong Bell straight away and then the big thing was that if it gets bent again I’m like I’m not I don’t want to stop anytime soon so

    I thought if I’ve got another three or four years the chances of maybe doing that again is it’s the better long-term solution for sport and the time frame wasn’t even that crazy different you know what I mean you could maybe start doing stuff on it but like still then

    You you shouldn’t really be like properly doing stuff on it and the the the time because you seem super up beat you like yeah but yeah yeah you do no considering what’s going on but considering what’s going on and considering how obviously you’ve had a massive hit you’ve got through it

    Literally you said you had two weeks feeling good and then you’ve been you’ve been dealt over overated no you’ve been dealt of [ __ ] hand but you seem like super positive I think I think that is like I’ve learned so much from the first hit I was going to ask that but you’ve

    Done it already thank you yeah I and more so from Christie I think like we read a lot of books and talk about things like that and psychology and like I read even something the other day I don’t know if I I showed you that in the book didn’t I it was like

    Um peeing and what was the second word no pain and Agony are pain and Agony are two completely different things because you create you can’t do anything about pain because it’s put on you when something bad happens but you create your own Agony it’s like prolonged pain so you

    Could sit here and say I’m being sore and everything or else you could either take the painkillers or start like when I went to the hospital yesterday um the guy was like I walked into the ward after 3 weeks and that the that never happened and said I said oh he said what

    Are you doing I said oh like I’m on my bascle and everything and he looked at me like I had two heads I was like oh I’ve got my pedal moved out so I can like still write my bicycle and things like that and they were like I don’t

    Know they mened in the best possible way but I I don’t know what they actually thought of it but it was like in my head these are all like just normal things to get from a to zed or whatever do you know what I mean so it’s like a lot of

    Things in your own head are you can manage like I’m not there is days where I’m fed up and I’m pissed off and whatever else but like all that is your choice you you don’t you can’t choose that this happened this has happened and the [ __ ] at the fan but everything after

    That you can choose how you deal with it how you’re going to move forward with it how you think about it how you you know all them things are actually your choice so I think that’s that’s the thing where you could sit and go oh this is [ __ ] and

    Then you just go down this hole of everything [ __ ] you mean it does fix but it doesn’t fix you it doesn’t make you feel any better it doesn’t it makes you worse off so and you’ve chose that from that one little seed that you’ve chose

    To water you know what I mean so and I’ve learned all that from from the first crash that Christy says all the time oh everything happens for a reason and I was like I’d have took like a little bit of a broken arm you I mean

    Rather than my whole body I swear I would have learned from a broken arm I didn’t need all this to like learn all these things about myself like if I’m I think I’m a better person for but yeah that would have done me I think but the

    Mad like yeah it’s it people don’t realize but yet again it’s all on your Vlogs but how close you know that shoulder rebuild was proper touch and go and even watching your Vlogs we were actually watching it on the way down it’s the fact that you still use you can

    Use crutches on my shoulder I well that’s I went to my physio so like they tried to give me a prosthetic shoulder at the time cuz the arm that’s what this is people don’t realize you know what I mean and luckily chrisy and Phil my boss

    Were there were like he need to try and fix them and the other lucky like this is so like three or four things happened after the crash that were randomly just one quick during that were you able to make decisions no no no I I never woke

    Up from yeah I they they fought your corner for they fought my corner for for me yeah that’s what I laugh like if you seen chrisy like she’s the quietest thing in the world and like doesn’t want to make a decision and it’s just like and then when like but she want husband

    With but then when the [ __ ] really hits the fan like she made loads of massive decision when I was in hospital yeah so I’ve said to her now I go this fing off big decisions now I like I know that you could do all this and cop and you were

    Like fighting she went that day after the crash got the camera off the bike watched the footage to make sure so then she could go to the doctors the next day and show them the footage of where I was hurt and why that rib was broke and why

    This lung was collapsed and why that arm so then they that would help them like even things to think and if you’d have seen her like there’s no way you’d say she would do that you what I mean that’s not the type of person she is but and

    And looking after your son the two dogs the house yeah and me no no no but you know all that to the side and then just chucking in decision you know it’s like it’s it’s mad because it’s like your God love when did you lose your dad Everett

    17 yeah 17 you know what I mean it’s not like you know that’s when things like that you think it’s funny like when when you think about something it’s when something really good or something really bad happens that’s your automatic thing that’s who to to call but yeah I I

    Said this to Chris like she people say oh it’s hard it was hard for me or whatever but she was suffering for five days before I even knew what was you know I remember coming around and it was like you like at the start the first two

    Days are great cuz you’re that off your head you’re not s you know what I mean it’s like it’s like cheat cold for two days but then it’s like then it’s hard but yeah the people around you are are who who really suffer you know what I

    Mean and they don’t even get the ra the bloody motor B the M you know obviously you know you pick who you want to marry but it’s like people don’t realize how strong of a character some religion some religion some Rel they are but class but no but it’s mad because

    Like you know a lot of marriages fall apart of like a simple push B accident you know you went out for a push B I’m not looking after you I’m not doing this it’s like the fact of like you chose each other it’s people don’t realize same with Nicol and yourself you know

    What I mean like RAC and partners it’s just I argue that in some senses where I’m lucky that this is my job you know I mean and I go look this is how he’s ad a job now but we PID for the house like this or you know everything have life is

    Because of motorbikes so I think it’s worse if some guy is at a tract day and gets wrecked and he’s a join or a plumber electrician I think that’s worse than what’s happened me 100% there was a guy in the hospital when I was there and

    He crashed at the Northwest not at the race but at the track but somebody pulled out in front of him in a car and he’d already been in the hospital for four months when I got there and he was still in the in the trauma or like he

    Was in a bad way so I seen that and I thought you’re far worse off than me do you know what I mean you’ve got no excuse really I like this is my job this is what happens I’m paid to push and this is what went wrong he was Ring home

    He might have been he might have been doing God knows what but someone still the pull out in front of him and Rit him off so I think that’s far worse than than what um than what happen to us cuz we sign up for it you know what I mean

    Yeah we know what’s going off yeah you know after that crash I know we keep going back onto this crash and you had to get prosthetic arm you know your leg didn’t fix properly you know bones didn’t heal everything like that what would have life been like for Lee Johnson

    Now that is a terrifying notion for me sitting here like you know well that was the conversation like I said the shoulders like that’s like what like it finish like Hodson and like a lot of top Riders you know what I mean you can’t

    You can’t do any about it so I was I was stressed about that for like a good three or four months and even the physio like any physio I went to of like one in h and my one here and the first conversation was always like like

    Normally people got try and sell you the dream and go oh we’ll fix this whatever and they were all like it’s not good the only good thing was like apparently there’s the distance between the arm and the the socket is good the further the distance that means so like when your

    Shoulder turns it needs that distance so it doesn’t catch and and you know stop it from turning that was all they ever said was oh there’s a good distance there and the surgeon’s done a good job and I went to like a private surgeon in Manchester just for another opinion and

    They were all like oh it looks like it should work but that doesn’t mean anything so yeah then and just then trying to get like I couldn’t even I couldn’t do nothing I couldn’t my arm my rotator cuff would have went to like there do you know what I mean there was

    Nothing and now my whole both arms are completely insan same as what I could we saying that watching the Vlog the fact that you know you’ve got a cage on your leg and you’re just hobbling around and cutes and it like we and him were he had

    No shoulder mons ago yeah but it’s funny cuz the same uh physio had treated a patient with a prosthetic arm or not arm shoulder and it was like they literally couldn’t do that there like and I just I remember him saying to me he say Le like

    You’re so lucky that someone was there to argue you know CU all they wanted to do was keep me alive and that was like one of the big I think it was in surgery for like 10 hours and that was a good percentage of it was fixing the so cuz

    There’s like 15 screws and plates from just from there to there my arms you wouldn’t know how they’ even fit 15 screws my arms that small because it was that broken and then that hit the socket and that broke the damage the socket so the sockets wired so both things that’s

    What made it complicated like it wasn’t just the socket or it wasn’t just the arm and how often you getting that checked up on it’s nothing no it’s been signed off it’s like um so yeah probably three or four months ago was like the last time I’d been to the hospital and

    I’d never been to like the NHS physio or anything it was all just just so you’re all you’re all good from the from back then oh yeah perfect and this one seems like it’s going to heal pretty good yeah this is that’s a thing like everyone looks at it bad cuz it looks

    Ugly but in my head it’s just a broken leg you what I mean yeah it’s like it’s not there’s no it’s not going to stop me there’s no worry that I’m not going to be F to ride about can you lift it up let’s have a I tell you what this is a

    Good sponsor plug by the way this is how you do it I’ve actually got him a snood on he’s got a br beers oil snood on it it’s actually the surgeon took the that is looking had a bit a bit of bantra with the surgeon

    And he was good crack when he and I was having a debate with him in the S of Jew room and then I was winning the debate and then he put me to sleep the friger so I never got to finish finish the conversation but when he come around to

    Check me up after he was taking the mick out and he was like oh I haven’t I haven’t put one on that size for at least a year and it was like on somebody’s arm because it was so small but that’s all I was worried about

    Cuz like if you had like a big I thought there were only going to be one set yeah and being like a sauce on my leg so but yeah um yeah it’s not I’ve got no peeing in it or anything you know as long as it’s kept warm and stuff CU so

    For you going forward what’s the that’s the only downside have you got a time frame you just leaving it to just yeah so I was in yesterday we went took him into the to see The Specialist with me because we go in with like the mindset

    Of right yeah if he if he showed you a thread of hope you’re like oh unfixed so we come out it’s like when you when you when you’re punching the saav and it says three hours you I’ll do it in two you know it’s exactly the same

    We just do it with injuries we come out and I said to him I was like right let’s be honest did you hear what I heard and then I said you explained what you’ve heard now and it was like completely different conversation weren’t even in

    The same room but no it was it was it was good like they don’t normally even x-ray somebody at 3 weeks i’ sort of fought my corner a little bit to get an x-ray it looks like a start and it and stuff so um it’s definitely positive and

    I’m doing all I know is I’m doing everything I can like with the chamber and the lasers and everything so I know that when I am fixed I’ve fixed it as quick as I could you know what I mean I haven’t sat on the sofa and hoped that

    It was going to fix and did nothing you know what I mean so I can live with that when whenever it’s this month next month whatever that’s that’s all I can do really what about results wise you know we briefly talked about how you go racing for a reason and that’s the push

    And like build up you know so what is your attitude to this season mate you’ve been dragged through Health you haven’t been just had a walk through it you’ve been dragged through it and I think it’s hard in the sense because we all like I I’m competitive obviously like we all are

    But I the hard part for me will be like not I’m like a good comparison is when the last injury I was like praying to get back on my bicycle and I thought when get on my bicycle and I ride down the road I’m going to love it like I was

    Like I’m so excited and the first day I got on and uh Christy was on the drive where I watched me and I rid down the road and like I R up for I went for a couple of Mile and come back she was like she was like well what was it like

    I was like [ __ ] I’m [ __ ] M leg [ __ ] I feel [ __ ] she was like what she was like what you’ve be like wanting to do this R I was like yeah I know but I’m no good she’s like well that what we expect my

    Leg was about to say so I was like in my head didn’t you lose like 10 kilos or I was like 54 kilos so I was when I was like yeah up like f the walk again and chrisy was like what planet are you on I

    Was like I know but why can’t I just be I was expect I don’t know what I was expecting in my head I was just going to get on the bicycle and put out the same what I was so yeah I I have to be realistic that I’m going to need some

    Time but that’s why I was flat out and speed and ring and stuff like I wanted to were you feeling good on the bike when you’re out in speed yeah really good back to normal yeah no I wouldn’t say like race normal but it was probably

    Like 80 90% like it nearly takes you one or two BBS to get going so and I missed the year so yeah probably by the time I’d got to the Northwest I think I would have been not too bad but we don’t know so yeah as far as results go I don’t

    Know I just want to enjoy riding my bike again and then I don’t want to get there and not not be at the front and then it be it be like annoying me because I remember what Lon on the sofa watching was like so I’m just going to go and enjoy

    Enjoy being there and just try as much as I can and see obviously with the road you have uh set races so you clearly going to miss the start of British Super Sport because yeah it’s around the corner but with but with the road you’ve got set events do you have something in

    Your own head yeah the one you like to get back I want I want to be back for the Northwest that’s the do you know what I mean that’s that’s a stretch but that’s what I’m trying to like Mark for at the minute like that’s what the

    Doctors are are laughing at me about but um yeah they know you’re by now yeah yeah so that’s what I mean and I think you need these goals like um that was the other thing like the last time I was injured and people not a lot of people

    Know but like cuz I was supposed to go to Daytona but I had signed up for that when I just seen it and then I was so excited entry when I’d done the done the deal I probably wasn’t fit to go but then that was the thing that then drove

    Me like mad to get fit so that near having that a Target can be so good can’t it yeah yeah but then then when I got hurt I was like devastated even though i’ never been today to no one cared really if I went or not like

    Outside of the the team was riding for whatever but in my head I was like I was a little upset because that was my em for what I was getting fit for um but yeah you sometimes it’s good to set targets and then other times like even

    When I went to the hospital yesterday and like I said I went in like going right it’s black and white it’s either going to be good or bad it’s and it’s all like achievement is like a perspective thing so like you know what I mean if you’ve won two BSB

    Titles when you retire and think you should have won four you’re depressed but someone that’s won none and if they one two it’s amazing but it’s the same two so it’s two and four it doesn’t make any difference so it’s that’s that’s the thing that I’m trying to teach myself is

    Like what your perspective of being successful or what is good news is completely different so someone that’s trying to Bunk off work for another two months and if he says you’ve only got a month they’re fuming be yeah you’d be gutted cuz you want signed off for two

    Whereas if I want a month and they say two it’s the same thing so that’s what I’m trying to like go into it and hopefully if I’ve learned anything from this like if I keep racing that’s what I want to I want to just actually enjoy

    Rain my bake and if I manage to fluke a win or two out of that then all the better I when you won the TT and your interview was just yeah as you always are open and honest and you’re like you bought I don’t know exact exact when but

    It was on the lines of I don’t know how I’ve done it yeah and and you were talking about how every previous winner feel felt the same yeah it was like it it didn’t feel fast and it’s just I think that’s good yeah it’s a different

    Place to Wi it like it’s just special and when you stop trying so hard and things click and it becomes yeah more fluidic and I don’t know what they’re right word is but yeah it’s a it’s it’s a good feeling yeah I’ll never forget that day and what it meant to me and

    Stuff yeah he’s really living it you can see in his eyes there you know what I mean that glaze Overlook it’s class I tell you what where do you you being Mr Super Sport how fast can that envelope get stretched to I think it’s yeah the

    Weather yeah well I said to them the last year like the last year I was there did 26 or eight and I I only had one a so I couldn’t see and I said to them like eye in it yeah I did one lap and and a pull in or whatever after after

    Cuz that’s what i’ promised the team so like I say this I can’t say it easily because I’ve never done 135 or six M hour but I know how hard you have to ride to do 130 mph on 600 you know there’s certain tracks where like the

    Time difference is massive on a big bike and and there’s a lot of stets at the TT and a lot of benefits of of sitting there flat out so to do 130 odd man around a 600 you are absolutely the risk level is far higher because to make the

    Lap time on a big bike you make it more by being on the throttle and so you’re not actually at the Apex you’re probably going a little bit slower than almost safer in a way oh yeah yeah well yeah you’re going a bit slower and you’re not

    Trail you know what you know so but it’s it’s selfish of me to say that cuz I’ve nearly done it on 600 I’m no we’re not doing it on a big bike so someone like Pete should probably say it or Michael or Dean or someone that can do it on

    Both bikes that could honestly say this is how hard it is on on each bike but yeah the the physicality is probably less on a 600 but the risk is is as high if not higher I think especially at like mid Corner speed or yeah cuz you’re

    Pushing in the places where you’ve got lean to make the T yeah you have to make the time so TT wise it’s turned into the Triumph cup yeah so what it’s gone from the r six cup to the Triumph cup was it now your decision process as a team you

    Been yeah well even a few things really cuz it was just like well Financial as well which spend fortune on R six engines and just reliability and basically you’re trying to race something against something that’s D- tuned and cheaper to run and you’re pay of Fortune to tune it and to compete at

    The same thing you’re never ever going to you’re never going to beat that you I mean bringing some Downs easier than bringing some up in it yeah yeah exactly so that was the that was the main thing I tell you what he’s the perfect person

    To speak to because he’s got a V2 I’ve got a V2 and he is the original jaati pilot you know what I mean he had a panagar for years and just tried to kill him also Al grand free Northwest T he just used to come in and just K that bad

    It was that bad at the Northwest one year mcginness offered to B me Honda to go to TT I finished second C I think in the Superstar race and mcginness was like Le you can’t you can’t r that thing at it was my first ever ET oh it was

    Horrendous it blew up just before B no what’s the jump um got B cry no the the bridge you go over just BL Bridge yeah it blew up just before there she like a flat out left and right and I went into the left and I just went bank and just

    Lit up and I was the full of the road I don’t know how I I didn’t wasn’t skill look around the corner but I pulled up at the bridge and the cancel practice because of me and the whole crowd was like Boo and it was like my first T was

    Like oh my God I just wanted to get under the bridge and hide yeah oh it was a disaster but you haven’t obviously I think it goes around saying probably not being Neo jakati since so I would like to ride it though I’d like to ride his

    Team’s one in Super Sport well you’re ring cuz Tod’s on on one in Todd’s gonna be the first one on jakat probably s him and prior to that the fastest lap was a 127 on the senior with Michael rter yeah at a like 127 lap so it’ll be I I love

    That little V2 it’ll be interesting to see how it goes around the TT proper bike especially his team there they’ve got a real fancy one like all their bikes are fancy like Christian’s bike’s that good he literally has like a go and a start Buton on I just sit on it and

    Puts it in projected lap time go that’s where I’m going wrong you put in the wrong projection a oh he hasn’t told you about this has you need to get a dash cam on him I’ve caught him in the pitch I tell you what is your prediction

    For the BSB pretend he’s not you know who actually was out in speeding a bit when I was there I was Rory Skinner and he looked he looks his style is lovely any like relax I must admit I’ve seen some reals and he looks pretty good good

    Yeah and he’s he’s you know what like he’s he had his bit of a chance and then maybe didn’t get the right deal of the cage and everything and he’s coming just to go and ride his bike he’s not got a care in the world he’s got no hassles

    Off anyone he’s literally cruising around riding his motor bike and full of the joy of Springs you know what I mean and he’s not bothered and he’s like that sort of a character anyway where he like well what it is you I mean if you beat

    Him in the first race he’ll try as hard in the next one and he’s got no real yeah I I’d say he’s in with a good good but then there’s 10 other people you know I mean there’s no there’s not a chance and even the person that starts the

    Championship really well might been over near like a hun for a couple of years was smoking everybody and then you know what I mean he should have won two or three never boed one off yet yeah I know maybe it was different when the the points were different or whatever and if

    He was a normal championship and all that but so who would you class as your outside bet there’s no such thing isn’t it well those young kids like that young Max cook kid yeah he’s going good he was impressive last year really impressive what about like Nesbit yeah the big

    Thing is the big thing is teams though do have a team that cons consistently give you because the tracks are so different in BB so to consistently have a good bike for ton or Schon or knill or that’s the thing because if you’ve good Riders on teams that are as equally a

    Good they can do that every weekend if you’re a bad weekend third fourth and fifth how are you beating that like you’re not winning or and not just I guess not just the Good Bites just but the teams allowing the Riders to grow yeah yeah which is like you don’t see it

    But that’s equally as important because coming through you’re going to have yeah things you need to learn it’s a massive thing I think where if I was a team manager I see people spending all this money on bikes and parts and everything and then there’s no like if you say when

    I me to play football when a footballer joins a football club they worry about him more than anything you know I mean sort his house his kids go to school where he wants to shop who he wants the car he needs they sort of his car is

    Everything right I’m not saying it needs to be to that extent but when you see a top Rider go into a top team and they go oh well this is a good bike and they’re are good mechanics and this it’s like these four things but no one thinks to

    Write let’s care about this there’s certain writers that certain writers might be full of confidence or full of arrogance or some Riders maybe need a cuddle some Raiders you know what I mean and that I don’t ever really see that happening certain I don’t want to name any writers but there’s some writers

    That I think that had if they had some of them things to’ be there because when you give them a bit of care and attention that breeds confidence and when they get the confidence then they go well and some writers might be crashing because they’re forcing it to

    Fit because they don’t have confidence but if you got it in the right pattern until that point then you’ve just missed all the negativity and the crashing and the crashing leads to more you know what I mean and you’ve saved yourself a load of money in part so

    But there’s I don’t think there’s a lot of them that are maybe not ex- Racers or there were businessmen or there were different things and they’re amazing up what they do but because you have a money and you have the best bike and a good team that doesn’t give you the

    Right to win the race I mean you have to yeah like massage the situation I think with certain people and and mentally there’s no real talk of like any other top sport in the world there psychologists and people that see and that there’s no talk of that in our

    Sport it’s true I guess when when sometimes Riders sometimes it works for Riders when they move to a team but it’s more by Design more by look than design so like theyve just they happen to click with those that group of guys or whatever or that team manager and that that’s good

    If it does click but then when the [ __ ] hits the fan then there’s then there the opposite then it goes right down and then they can’t you can’t fix a problem with the same people doing the same thing that made the problem because that’s not you know something has to

    Change to make that come back out of the whole you know somebody has to change their idea or the way they’re doing it or how they’re going to do it you can’t do the exact same thing and expect a different outcome that’s like insanity in it or whatever it’s called you know

    It’s it’s the same but they don’t they think oh well we’re this team and we’ve been here for 20 years and this Spike’s good we should win yeah away you go doesn’t doesn’t work like that with all that been said I’m going to spin it slightly Super Sport who’s going to win

    That ah his his mate got their bike’s way better than anyone else’s Jing call that no keep there’s load of the catties now though isn’t there MC mcmanis and they were going real good out in Spain they’re out in Spain with us H but then on the Triumph yeah yeah say him yeah

    He’s he’s good quality riter see he’s w super world super Racers are been on the podium so he’s not like and you got Jack Kennedy back in again yeah on the Honda per on on a the cow wasat is going to be I think that is a 750 in it the Jackson

    Probably get that in the camera no but’s going to he rides for jaat he have to wor about that 959 yeah Jack Jack I think uh Curry uh Stapleford are you doing your order here no not an order but they’re they’re going to be every weekend Riders and

    Then like there there’ll be other there be some kid that’s come through that that’ll be on the podium and stuff as well could even win the championship you don’t know that’s the good thing about Super Sport they not all old people likeing super bik that’s that’s one of our patreon questions from Michael

    Harrison I guess you are planning I’m not even going to take him I know I I’m look I W be a look about age right when I came into short circuits like but you’re Lee Johnston was was Lee Johnston was that guy you know like oh he’s the

    Next guy you know like if you get anywhere near him which I didn’t you know like he’s like the old guy who’s already in it like he was in junior super 48 he come from making half a year war mot R unbelievable Lee was the guy Lee was

    Genuinely the guy I can remember it he trying to convince you that I was good no you question I’m just going through patreons because we like to because we have good patreons Michael Harrison’s asking I guess when you’re fit and ready are you planning to do some British Super Sport

    Championship yeah that was the plan to go to go back and do that what about signatures for the TT yeah so a lot of people don’t realize that you have to get have to get but now it’s not the same as what you don’t actually have to

    Race so as long as you’re raiding so like track days in speeding counts track days in England counts right that’s good does the track day that you crashed on count yes no I didn’t do enough laps I think I think you must have to do yeah

    You’ have to at least uh understand like the way I look at it is you know if you want to do a track day you do 60 70 laps a day maybe if you went to do a club meeting you wouldn’t do 60 70 laps all week you’ve got 10 10 minutes pre

    Practice 10 minutes qualifying and two 10 lap races so what have you doing in that like 25 laps or and least now that they understand you know what I mean they’re they’re not before they go oh go and do this club race and that like I’m

    Doing no riding and a load of risk because well yeah well you’re you’re a Target aren’t you are you know what I mean little big Target no no but like that way people don’t realize that you know if you go out there and you’re trying to just get a signature to go

    Racing someone goes I’ve got a chance to sit up Le from a thousand yards are going to take it aren’t they it’ll end in tears but like I’ve already done eight or nine days in being since December you covered well I wouldn’t say I’m covered but yeah I want to if I want

    To do if I did the Northwest and then did Donington yeah the hor no um is that your horse is that actually your horse my it’s really hard going being a motorbike rider got no just my hor I’ve just figured out CR it up and down the

    Street no sad on you can’t bleed out up only you got half a million quid in supermot you don’t win half a million you don’t earn half a million from riding a dirt bik with SLI trust me what was uh yeah so I’ll do them days and then if I did

    The Northwest and then I do what’s the BB between the Northwest and TT Donington is it probably yeah the one you didn’t get to last time so yeah it will be it’s the same calendar so that would be that would be enough I think we’ve got loads of people just wishing

    You well basically um pretty much everyone um but going on about um your crew you’ve got around you you’ve obviously got a brilliant uh relationship with all you crew yeah specifically how uh how has Neil B with you for so long it’s worrying because they’re all nearly dead they’re all

    Quite old so like getting them signed out on a Thursday and stuff now and on the boss and all this is like you talk about running the team being hard work um but yeah they are like they the M do they get cheap you know when you travel

    Somewhere do they get do you use their o passes and stuff yeah but like the M that they’ve woron is like even Neil won’t talk on the camera in the Vlog but like Neil’s like they work for like B&M and Grumpy’s been in Factory 100 for years Roger was a factory like they’ve

    All like been around for a long time they’ve won like gazillion BB races and TTS and worldship races like loads of stuff and now they’re with me it’s like this was all the buildup for them to get to this is this fine but that’s why like

    They abused to give me they’re like Le I used to work for David Jeff or such as I how have I ended up here with you like me but no they’re good they’re good people in the sense where I don’t have to tell them anything know like at a

    Race weekend they can go they know who to speak to they know who works where at the TT or at the BSB or the park and the truck you know like there’s you know if you young staff for grade but you have to teach them all these things and so

    They’ve got all this experience over all this time and I guess it puts you especially with what you do in Road stuff it puts your mind completely at rest just like yeah yeah yeah and I can see how much they care you know like when I quit racing they’ve all said that

    They’re just going to quit at the same time you know what I mean so it’s like yeah it means a lot what they they do do for me yeah do have feel pressure with that nah forget they forget each morning don’t keep saying it every time where did we go on

    Yesterday yeah have to keep we walking around with we trophy just to remind them they don’t even like when we won at Silverstone they’re hilarious like I was like get in park for me and they might be just Roger there and I goes where’s the other on she goes ah they couldn’t

    Be bothered walking it was too far they don’t even want to walk down bilon that is class I’ll tell you what could you doing what you’re doing now and everything that you’ve learned could you go back to quote unquote employment ride for Honda or ride for jakai or ride for another

    Team um yeah probably the right there is good teams oh not I’m not I’m not yeah maybe not maybe yeah there’s some teams that are like strict you know what I mean and some teams it aren’t I I wouldn’t say I work well with uh orders you make your own that’s why it’s

    No but I don’t I don’t mean that yeah but I mean like I I’m happy with people telling me what to do as long as it’s my opinion no yeah I probably I probably could I wouldn’t say I couldn’t because then if I get the sack at the end of

    This year no one will offer me a job said I’m really easy to work with so yeah I could work with another team it would be hard I think but especially because in in two ways cuz I have a really good understanding now when I see people like team managers and they’re

    Like talking about something I go what have you got to be talking about I’m like now I know like all the [ __ ] like people letting you down and if you don’t get wheels at a certain time then you can’t get wheel speed sensors then you can’t get wheel you know what I mean

    All these things and there’s just a d it just fries your head so you spend loads of time doing the same thing that should have been a one job yeah that’s the that’s yeah yeah so I’ve got two ways really I’ve got an appreciation for team managers and then

    Yeah maybe not also you’ve been doing commentary like podcast work and everything like that so you know there don’t like there’s many I don’t think well ever not see Lee Johnson in the sport put that way hat Kenny’s asked actually how does it feel to start vlogging only to have Jesse and Neil

    Become more famous than you oh I get it all the time yeah Jess but Jesse like J I seen Jess’s his first his first Vlog the day which I I loved he’s like he hasn’t quite grasp that like when something goes on YouTube and he’s like

    He’ll say like our world but if he goes to like being or something he thinks it’s another world he’s like can people in the other world see all these videos and I’m like yeah yeah yeah like is it on the other world now and stuff so he

    Absolutely loves it but he’s got his little I’ve got them inst 360 cameras and he drives around with it da his tractor in the house and stuff so I think it’s cool like that he’s interested and he watches YouTube and now he’s like oh look they’ve made this

    Video and you know I mean that’s the way the world is going so does Jesse have any interest in the bikes or yeah he like he likes bikes but he’s like obsessed with tractors and we’ve got a guy so he’s going to be a f hope so

    Mone a guy on the road that comes to racing with his two little boys but he he works on the farm and he drives a gator and a even like a grab wagon you know like cuz and like in Jesse’s World he’s the coolest man in the world like

    He comes to the racing with his kids and his kids are lovely and everything and Jesse sees him he’s like Daddy there’s the grab wagon man he’s like this is like he’s like absolutely obsessed but yeah I think it’s great that he like he comes and like he thinks like Taran or

    Paul like they’re all his friends or Wht him like wham’s Jesse’s mate he’s not my mate or mean so it’s normal he doesn’t know any different or like probably same as when you were a kid you know it’s no you don’t know any different but yeah

    He’s he’s going to be a farmer hopefully and make me lots of money and I’ll sit it home that’s the way to do it that is the way to do it but tell you what like honestly mate the amount of that like all the patrons shouting out you got you

    Know Matthew got Terry AJ Michael Harrison your mate to me to me to to to Phil we have a p he’s been here from day one right in one episode with him and he just took the piss with the chuckle brothers and I’m thinking we’re going to

    Lose every patreon that Grace has worked this hard to get and I’m like what his first appearance as a co-host it’s like within second I upset the patrons straight on it straight on we got obviously Maggie we’ve got Hayden Gibson that’s a good question any a new helmet

    Designs I’ve got a yeah nice one for this I do know what upset because we’ve just been looking at your helmet collection it’s Lush I’m glad you said collection mate you know what I mean I’m I’m finish this had a nice one for Dayton as well I’ve never got to use it

    I’ve got um I’ve got a new design for I’ve a new design and a new halet painter for this year is it a new design or you kept similar design but like completely different colors and cool really yeah look not not no pink maybe a little bit but like who’s doing your LS

    Uh not Hayden Gibson no I don’t even know the name of the company Dutch or something so my helmet painter paint nation’s been like the same for years and he stopped he works for company involved with rst that owns the bike shop God I was going to give him a shout

    Out there as well thanks for all these years for being will edit it in yeah put it in voice over right [Laughter] now yeah so I I I obviously didn’t want to change helmet painter he’s he’s stopping because he’s being mint for like a decade nearly so um yeah but

    Things Chang and I am going to ask this one that Ty asked because we kind of like we just said it about Jesse being into like it’s the the modern world about being into videos and all that sort of thing and I think I’m past the

    Era because I’m not very good at social media I wasn’t born into it yeah do you think now the question want to do it and it’s not cuz I’m so old you just don’t like people don’t like I’ll agree with that I don’t like people no you like me

    You like talking to the people you like talking with anyone else you don’t want to talk just blank him but Ty asked Ty asked do you feel you need to be on maybe not necessarily YouTube but like have a good social media presence to be a professional racer I think more so the

    The worst of got at racing I think I need to do I mean if it was a bit faster you know it’s like fast people like you don’t have to do anything I mean I’m getting to the point like that slope in it so you’ve got YouTube and

    Speed a crossover point no I I en like I like but like if Jesse was coming through do you think he would have to do yeah yeah think it’s a modern world is it that’s why we’re going to put these guys out of jobs cuz there’s going to be

    No TV stuff is there no but like that’s the thing you look at like Billy bold Tommy SS two pro one slow you’ve got I’ve I’ve made team sponsors and sponsors from YouTube like I have people come to me through YouTube like that weren’t weren’t big fans and then become

    So like that’s p in my sense that’s that’s worked I’ve put that effort in at the end of day I only do it C from racing mot BS you I mean and it’s the benefit that and it’s a it’s a laugh and if it’s helped people mentally or

    Whatever what we’ve done since crashing that’s all great but it started just as a bit of a piss take really or just whatever you I mean I was never expecting it God knows why people have decided to keep watching it but they have and it’s like and people ask me this sometimes as

    If I’ve got a plan I don’t I don’t have any sort of plan or what what to do with it really or even well you can see that they’re not the videos aren’t like this cleancut um what’s the right word I’m looking for they’re raw cinematic yeah

    They are raw but I think that’s part yeah but somebody T bless CH Christy had no Ide at the start she does amazing job now but this guy at the start I remember his comment was like this is amazing it’s so natural and raw know this is

    Like this is what happens when you actually don’t have a clue what you’re doing it was like you thought that this was like an angle we were we were going for but no so yeah I’ve got no idea but yeah I think you have to do have to now

    For the future because sponsors it’s well if you’ve got two riders that are averagely the same speed and one guy’s got a MTH of following and getting all this content and doing all these things well why would you sponsor the other guy as you mean if like if there were like

    For like that’s the only other like sales pitch I suppose yeah Mega so when so obviously the plans get you on at the Northwest yeah when’s the next direct time we’re going to get you on a bike I don’t know in about three days before the Northwest probably

    Well as long as you get the bikes on that’s the main thing you know no we need to just get once we’ve got another appointment I don’t want to say that de cuz then people are going to start message me on but we’ve got another appointment in a while and then we’ll

    Know better then and then if they decide then when the keage comes off or what happens then I can only I don’t want to I’ve got like a lot of plans made like if but maybe when so that if if it does happen then we’re in place but if it

    Doesn’t then just quick so obviously this looks pretty bad because of a cage but actually it should in theory when the cage comes off pretty strong apart from the holes that have to fix yeah so it’s just weak apart from where the screws have gone in but it should be

    Like take it off and you should feel pretty good yeah I could Cy EV I wouldn’t go running I think when I take it off but I’ll um be fit to do everything so all I mean like it kind of looks worse than yeah I mean it’s bad

    But as in it looks way you go [ __ ] there’s no chance actually yeah yeah it’s not there’s half a chance that’s the thing when that’s the whole point if like I’m trying to walk on and stuff now and when I get it off I’ll be like ready

    For action I think I think class man no I’m I’m I’m I really can’t I really can’t wait you know and I meant what I said at the beginning of it all the sport needs you mate you know no it does I know you don’t think like that you’re

    Humble you’re modest but the sport does need you you know what I mean do you want to say something nice Christian yeah get it get it slapped in there get something nice in there go on my grand always said if you got nothing good to say that’s why people think Christian’s

    Quiet he’s not he’s just really rude he just want to say bad absolutely thanks to his Grandad he seems late I’m goingon to piggy back what Dom said Dom Dom has genuinely been going I hopefully he comes back I hope I hope he’s back for this that the other because he said we

    Need him we really need well no but [ __ ] Ro RAC as fragile as it is it’s not as fragile as my leg part right hold up where they are I tell you what well we’ll do a bit of housekeeping but obviously thank you so so much I’m going to carry on reading

    The names we got you know Maggie asking after Mark all of them sir’s asking your favorite got tyen he what s big up Sir big up S go s Matthew sh that is a cool name and it’s sir I know bus driver called s you know

    A bus driver called s his name you don’t get take the bus he’s gotg he’s had to drive his own hair car here he was absolutely disgusted he’s been driving me around the r track class and obviously we’ve got a Travis we’ got Sam Kenny Mick Mike m the

    There’s so many there is so so we know we’ve got a good guest when we get so many P questions no you mean a nice person a nice person yeah you struggled to say that there didn’t you you struggled to say that BR yeah right I tell you what right I’ll

    Do the Bennett thing you do the Bennett things and I want I tell you what you can start JCT truck and trailer they my sponsor they came on board with like they got in touch with Grace you know said you know I want to help he R me he

    Rung me before and he’s lovely right and he rung me was like oh I’d lik it I was like yeah bring them up and uh then Grace uh rung me she was like oh this man I was like yeah he’s the night he is the nicest bloke you will ever wish to

    Meet and he just he just loves the sport loves motorbikes loves everything about it so yeah I’m I seen it there as soon as I sat down he’s a he’s a good person and there’s like normally you know that sometimes sponsors come for what they

    Can get out of you know what I mean which is fair enough that’s business but some people then just randomly want to see things do well and he’s he’s one of them like he’s that that guy wait just he just got in touch it help he’s helped Grace he’s helping the show because

    Without sponsors this show wouldn’t be this show wouldn’t exist without the patrons and without the personal sponsors this show would not exist so massive thanks to massive thanks to him Absolut massive thanks but you’ve got a a message from one of our other sponsor you can you can big up the big one

    Because I can’t really B talk about your team racing against them Dom’s got the Hat on yeah oh it’s a free hat you got can’t knock it they’re keeping the show going well I’ll just say it anyway thanks to OMG racing nice as he was a

    Bit slow on that one uh and then Bennett’s obviously so um Bennett there’s two more track days that are now live for this year with limited spaces remaining one at alt and one at Brands uh if you can head to bennett. co.uk track days information there is need if

    You need to book um have you never done any of there Bennett St Bennett St they get like mcginness there they get like um you you’ve been couple H you they’re all big deal AR yeah you have to get get Mel to get in touch stress free track days limited

    Numbers um me and Le also coach on Whit days just going to get that out there get that out there see as Whit’s been very good to you over the last has he yeah the last bit of time bloody step didn’t he bless him um and then right there bit we’ve

    Got are sponsor for this pod which is the Street Diner have you tried their food at the T youing big yellow s is it the street T no you know you know the Monster Energy tent yeah you know all all them Cs and like all the food was Street Diner holy

    SP so he’s a good sponsor he’ll be making millions over there yeah get your hand in your pocket so this year they’ll be at the grandstand and fans are offering food like Urban American Street Food Salt and chili chicken I shouldn’t be this I’ve not had me lunch I’ve had

    Some chocolate peanuts um you can also find them at Crosby leap in the field keeping everyone fuel during the racing and they’re hosting a brand new official TT Cafe up at the grandstand opposite the VIP structure you’ll find Spectacular bite display provided by John mcginness the very and that man if

    There’s anyone knows about food that man knows about Food and there’ll be Monster Energy racing arcade games from fresh coffee an extensive menu and lots of fresh Ms produce so keep an eye on the TT schedule for ride event nights in there they are free and open to the public yeah but like just oh the BBC are leing ITC

    BBC yeah yeah give a give a quick shout out he is no but John LaBella who owns our business he like started with sweet fa lived in Allen like me and him lived in Allen like different sides of the village and it’s like he’s come from

    Nothing he does F1 events he does like he goes over to Europe he does absolutely everything and it’s like but the food is put it this way Paul Phillips is a massive like fan of the food oh that’s good you know what I mean you know so it’s he’s upper class in he

    He’s yeah no but yet again thank you very much you’ve been amazing pleasure was all mine you really have and thank you for fitting Us in because I know you’ve like I’m actually bu I’m not I spent the last three weeks sitting on the sofa off and you have all come at

    The same time no but seriously thank thanks famously and um yeah hey get well soon and get yourself on that bike mate awesome right catch you later

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    1. Great to see that Lee is in fine form and will hopefully be back again soon! Great craic, can't wait to see this documentary about the roads too!

    2. Just had 90 minutes of belly laughing at you all… Lee hope you are throwing a leg over a bike soon enough.. I have to agree with Lee, pain and recovery is what you make it, staying positive is half the job.. Good luck to you all over the coming season, and Grace you are doing a cracking job of keeping the monkeys vaguely under control….

    3. Great podcast once again. Really hope Lee can make his goal of the North West but either way it'll be great to see him back whenever it is.

    4. What a genuine down to earth guy Lee is
      Inspirational as well as I’ve had surgery and had 11 weeks lying on my back.Rode my bike for the first time yesterday so ache a bit today lol
      If it wasn’t for Lee’s vlogs I wouldn’t have even found you guys
      So cheers from Vancouver Canada and look forward to following your podcast going forward 🤙👏

    5. Lee great job when you look at motivation money maybe for some. but the likes of Mike Hailwood and from our homeland Tom Herron who would have been millionaires if they had never
      put their legs over a bike so love of the sport.

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