The goal of this webinar is to provide insights from the English coastline (especially in the Southeast), and hopefully generate comparative discussions with the Canadian perspective. The webinar will consider climate change adaptation at the coast in England from a planning perspective. Planning is one of our principal tools for shaping human interactions with our surroundings in socio-ecological systems. In England, as with other coastal countries, states, or provinces, this comes with a set of unique challenges, especially as sea levels rise and storms become more frequent and intense. Firstly, around 45.6% of the English coastline is protected by coastal defences (walls and artificial beaches), which can generate a false sense of security. Some areas are in a develop-defend-develop cycle. A rigid planning and flood zone categorisation system can also block innovative thinking by coastal authorities. Nature-based solutions are receiving more backing from national policy, and being implemented effectively in some areas. However, the extent to which all of these processes engage the public, are transparent, or participatory is up for debate.

    Presenter Biography. Dr. Glen Smith, a research fellow at the Flood Hazard Research Centre at Middlesex University in England, is working to better understand the dynamic impacts of climate change adaptation (CCA) strategies at the coast and the governance of these systems. A social scientist with more than 10 years’ experience in studying marine and coastal issues, he recently completed a Visiting Fellowship with the Ocean Frontier Institute. During this appointment, he examined approaches to climate change adaptation at the coast in southeast England and in Nova Scotia. He completed his PhD in natural resource management at UiT, The Arctic University of Norway in Tromsø, where he focused on marine spatial planning (MSP) in Scotland, especially on process transparency, participation, and power dynamics in the governance of MSP. Dr. Smith has since held postdoctoral positions in Cork, Ireland, and in London researching the social elements of climate change adaptation.

    And Coastal infrastructures project that’s a part of ofi you can find information about that at Coastal futures.com change at the coast we were just chatting there before this session um a topic that is certainly coming more and more to the four um thanks also for the introduction as mentioned I’m Glenn

    Smith um I’m a social science researcher with a background in originally Marine planning uh but more broadly marine and Coastal issues um I did my PhD at the University of trumo in Norway then went and did a post doctoral position in University College cork in Ireland looking at uh climate resilience

    Think about Community resilience at the coast um and currently coming towards the end of another postdoc position um at the flood Hazard Research Center middlex University uh fun fact the flood Hazard Research Center was the world’s first ever dedicated um Research Center for flood Hazard um we actually moved

    Office a couple of months ago and I helped to move some of the documents and was looking at um typewritten stuff they’d done in back in 1972 and 73s so they’ve been at this for a while so just to give a brief um overview of the presentation I’m going

    To very quickly go over the Solaris project uh which I’m working on at the moment from which some of this material is taken then go a bit more specifically into Coastal issues looking at the I always call it the boring bits but there’s a bit of policy and planning

    Context for that um in England this is all all uh for England um and then I’m going to go go and look at some examples some case examples uh cany Island Ro hedge Thorp nest and East and West wittering in West Sussex only this last case is actually from my current

    Research um so I actually know a lot more about that case the other ones I’ve kind of handpicked just to um uh kind of Expos some interesting issues around Coastal climate change adaptation in England and as I keep saying England a lot of this is very England um Centric

    Because the flood and Coastal erosion responsibilities are actually devolved to um the governments of Scotland Northern Ireland and Wales less so but there’s also a few things oh and then I’ll go over some discussions uh some conclusions and discussion points at the end um and hopefully give

    Other people a chance to to chime in um there’s a few things that this won’t be about there’s many things this won’t be about um but the direction of national policy I’m not really going to go into not into too much detail on um public engagement processes although I can

    Touch on that in in the discussion um the indigenous communities context here is missing um obviously not completely missing in England but very very different uh context to you guys over in Canada um and yeah so that’s a quick overview of of the things I will and won’t talk about obviously

    Astrophysics and things there’s plenty else that’s going to be left out but um so the next two slides are about Solaris they’re not necessarily focused on the topic of today today but they give a bit of a bit of context the Solaris project is a European research project um it’s

    Running over about three years in total as I said coming to an end in in August of this year um and I work on the English side of it we have Partners in Belgium Finland and France solidarity um sorry Solaris stands for solidarity and climate change adaptation policies

    Towards more sociospatial Justice in the face of multiple risks so it’s really um a focus on Justice and equality issues uh in the context of climate change more specifically in the context of flood risk and of managing that flood risk um we work around three research questions

    That I haven’t written out in full but they focus on um the role that Justice plays in policy uh so flood risk management policy um opportunities for stakeholder and public participation in in decision- making uh and the role of knowledge U we do all this in each

    Country at the national level and then looking locally at uh two case studies per per country um and when we talk about Justice we have focused on distributional justice so um the distribution of costs and benefits in flood risk management uh procedural so that’s looking at participation um opportunities for participation and

    Perhaps where they don’t exist and why that is and also recognition Justice uh recognition of um individuals and communities who are at risk perhaps again instances where uh those peoples aren’t being recognized um as was mentioned in the introduction uh this project gave me an opportunity

    To spend two months um over at Del Housey University uh last summer um thanks to the um visiting fellowship program at the ocean Frontier Institute to kind of do a little comparative project on on how um sorry that that I that focused um on specifically on Coastal issues and uh

    Climate adaptation at the coast so just a reminder before I give a brief insight into some results Solaris is not purely Coastal um so we deal with fluvial flooding plal ground water surface water runoff and Coastal flood water inundation as well wasn’t really a minder because I

    Think I just said that for the first time but um briefly some results so uh National guidance is fairly vague if we think about flood and flood risk um management policy doesn’t really delve too deeply into issues of justice and equality going on to the second key

    Result is that um we’ve spoken to many water managers um who uh simply don’t have the capacity to to deal with this a lot of people who think that dealing with Justice and equality is less of a flood risk management issue more of something that should be looked at in

    Broader policy um immigration education Access to Health Care Etc um but there are some encouraging signs I have a slide that I’ve moved right to the end I can go into that a bit more um but essentially the environment agency in England is looking more specifically at the link between

    Flood risk and um uh indices of multiple deprivation um looking at a broader range of factors that might make people more vulnerable to flooding and perhaps less able to to recover as well um so to give uh when I said two slides I meant one because I’ve just remembered

    I moved one to the end um I’m going to leave Solaris now and just kind of look at the more specifically at the topic of today um the national flood and flood and Coastal erosion risk management as we call fmm the FSM strategy is the main

    Sort of policy for uh for England um and the key objective of this policy is uh to work towards a nation ready for and resilient to flooding and Coastal change today tomorrow and to the year 201100 uh this number will come up a few times it’s kind of the temporal context

    Um of a lot of this stuff um so I’ll be mentioning that a couple of times um ready and resilient for flooding looks at things like defenses that includes increasingly nature-based Solutions in England um and traditional more traditional flood defenses forecasting warnings and evacuation um the system for that in England is

    Actually pretty good and well drilled we do get an awful lot of rain and a good amount of floods building back better is a key part of it as well so that sort of focuses on um flood recovery um and it fits quite nicely into an interesting broader theme of placemaking and

    Placemaking runs through a whole range of policy areas uh in the UK government English government or for for English policy uh with the idea being that we kind of create places that are nicer to live in safer to live in uh and obviously this doesn’t then just focus

    On flood risk but again focuses on uh infrastructure access to Services Etc um and the government has set aside 5.2 billion pounds between 2021 and 2027 um to meet these objectives the environment agency as I said is uh in charge of um National flood policy and flood risk management it’s got a

    Strategic overview role uh for flooding and Coastal change um so that’s quick intro introduction to that and a key tool um in England as in other countries um and this is something that focus on a bit more today is planning and so the national planning policy framework which sits under the

    Department for leveling up housing and communities and they’ve stated that as long as planning authorities Implement National planning policy effectively uh the increase in future property damage from flooding should be a relatively modest 4% they do say however um that if policy is weakened or uh is not implemented

    Correctly then this figure uh could be closer to 30% over the next 50 years there’s a 30% increase in uh future property damage obviously property damage is quite a narrow Focus looking at specifically uh built assets but still um implement the policy through planning is is the message there excuse

    Me um turning specifically to planning at the coast um which we’ll be looking at a bit more today um two key planning uh jurisdictions involved land use planning in England extends to the low water mark whereas Marine planning extends um inshore planning from 12 nautical miles

    To zero which is in this case the high water mark and this overlap uh is built in uh uh purposefully to ensure the plans on the dry and the Wet Side can kind of uh take one another into account and that there is collaboration there working together this collaboration has been uh described

    Thus by the Marine management organization which overlooks Marine planning an important part of our uh Marine plan making process is to engage with all local planning authorities so it’s kind of especially Coastal planning authorities who have a stake in the Marine area and we are committed to fulfilling our duty to

    Cooperate in line with the national planning policy framework there’s that framework again so that’s that’s key to to a lot of uh what we’re talking about today this includes taking into account land use plans to ensure that their aims are fully considered during Marine plan making um

    Couldn’t argue with that too much it’s a noble cause I think um practitioners will tell you that the two spheres um still work kind pretty much detached from one another um there are obvious examples where uh Marine infrastructure makes landfall for example but on the whole um I wonder if this is something

    That might kind of resonate in the room as well is that the two systems Sy are pretty much disjointed from one another um also another point is that the Marine management uh remit does stretch quite far in land in Tidal Rivers um so um just an kind of added point there

    Um this area itself in the context of climate change um Falls more under the so see if I can this window yeah okay um Falls more under so-called Shoreline management plans um I’ll give you a bit more information about these Shoreline management plans this slide is a bit

    Wordy but the message is quite simple uh these so-called snps they um search the the idea is to find sustainable approaches to managing the coast over three epochs so this is U from the present day to 20 years 20 to 50 and 50 to 100 again starting at the

    Beginning of the century we’re then roughly in the ballpark again of that 2,100 year um and in terms of sustainable approaches there are four approaches outlined first one is to advance the line building the coast line seawood uh holding the line definitely the most uh the most common amongst the shoreline

    Management plans um managed realignment either landwood or seawood this is a kind of a managed approach or noactive intervention sort of a um stand back and and do as little as possible in addition to this this kind of the last bit of the the really boring

    Bits I think um I shouldn’t be it’s not boring it’s very important but um the uh a key management approach has existed I think these were started in 2012 the coastal change Management areas um this graphic is not too important to take all in and memorize or anything but

    Just kind of gives an overview of how policy and guidance lead to these Coastal Management areas and these Coastal Management areas deal specifically with uh change at the coastline I’ve just added that there to to emphasize that this is very much rooted again in in planning and the national planning policy framework

    Um uh sorry mandates that Coastal planning authorities should identify these ccmas which cover parts of the coastline and are likely to experience significant change over the next 100 years and that significant change relates to things like erosion Coastal land slip uh permanent seawater inundation uh Coastal accretion um and the ccmas severely

    Restrict new development that’s why they’re they play an important uh role uh the kind of role that something like the coastal protection act in uh Nova Scotia would play if um some hurdles were overcome we might might come back to that some stage I suppose but the the idea of these ccmas

    Is essentially to severely restrict um development in at risk coastal areas briefly they’re put together by reviewing the shoreline management plans that I mentioned then there’s more work put into identifying risk uh mapping areas of risk and there you go again delivering adaptation through planning however research has since

    Shown or recently shown um that there is inadequate and ambigu ambiguous guidance which has reduced the effectiveness of national policy with Coastal planning authorities unsure which data sets to use for Del delineating ccmas uh and the data sets are available vary in erosion predictions and uh perhaps quite bafflingly do not account

    For uh expected sea level rise uh thus only 15% of coastal planning authorities have designed a ccma um with just that that amounts to 5.7% of the coast of England which is designated as a coastal change management area um and there’s a lot of vulnerable coastal areas that have just been

    Emitted from ccmas so there is um an issue of implementation here and this situation has kind of led me um with some uh actually stole stole this but led me to think more recently um a lot about how we think the unthinkable at the coast so uh planners in England

    Agree that I quote here very few Coastal local planning authorities seem prepared to think the unthinkable and limit new development in the already developed Coastal Z um so I’ve become very interested in how we think the unthinkable uh what the space is for that where you know who should be

    Thinking about this um what the resources are for that what the kind of uh messaging to the general public should be for that um and this has driven my recent research and also my my stay over in in Del Housey over the summer so that’s kind of

    The first phase of presentation um going to assume most people are still awake um and just basically I’m going to go over a few examples of how some of this plays out on the ground um a bit of broader Coastal climate change context in England this

    Graphic uh shows the kind of more and less resilient parts of the UK coastline most of the UK um with uh with reference to its kind of geological makeup and how resistant it is to uh Coastal erosion um you can see the southeast of England certainly a lot more a lot less resistant

    Sorry um and a few key stats there um around 45.6% of coastlines are protected um this in many cases doesn’t mean job done um in the context of uh more frequent and intense storms and sea level rise obviously some of those um protected areas will need a rethink but

    It does include also nature-based Solutions 28% of coastlines are deemed as vulnerable sea level rise uh is predicted to be between. 27 and 1.12 M again there’s that magic number by the year 201100 excuse me and there are risk registers in England as well um to look at uh risk to

    Mainly assets um in the context of climate change in England uh so 35 power stations along the coast 22 clean water facilities and 91 sewage water treatment works um are also at risk um just to add in there and I I’m not a geologist so I’ve added this myself um

    But this is the approximate line of the isostatic rebound effect in the UK as well um and what that means is that um the everything sort of to the uh north and west of that line top left of that line is is slowly Rising into the southeast is slowly sinking and this is

    Not an um uh completely unimportant fact because it’s been predicted that this could increase sea level rise by three or four times uh the global average in the southeast of England um so really quite a significant um process to consider there um I’m going to talk about I did

    Mention um four case studies three of them fit on this map um I’ve added them in there we’ve got Canby Island at the bottom uh rooh hedge and Thorp nness um I’m actually speaking to you from the city of Colchester which is just above where it says

    Redge um and the little blue dot suggests that that’s where I was on my way to London yesterday when I took this screenshot when I was um on the train to London to go to the office um so first of all cany Island um I just added this very briefly it’s not really

    An area of research of mine but there was um a news headline this week so this is canv you just about see it there on the right hand side east of London um and there are some flood defenses there uh that’s St back to the

    1930s um and need work this is a taken from taken from the BBC sorry I didn’t reference that um and canvi Island itself is a lot of it built on uh areas reclaimed from the sea uh much of it is below sea level at high

    Tide and in 1953 there was a huge storm in Europe affected a lot of the southeast of England and and obviously Main and and Mainland Europe as well um in 1953 and on Canby Island there were 58 deaths um and 2,500 homes were were affected um as well as the the fire

    Station at the time and uh there’s very much a Hold the Line approach here um as that picture would suggest going back to the Shoreline management plans um and what I found interesting about this story is that a 75 million pound project um will has

    Been given the green light um as you can read at the bottom there um this is a graphic showing what it would look like afterwards um and this will provide protection for over 6,000 properties on the island until 2070 and what struck me about that is um that really isn’t a

    Very long time in the grand scheme of things um it seems we’re entering um stage whereby um there might be lower return for increasing costs at some in some coastal areas in the context of climate change and protected protecting places like cany Island again very brief example just to

    Kind of um illustrate that point I suppose now uh Ro hedge in England just that map quickly again again I I’m up in Colchester looks like I was back home at that stage um and uh Wen HHO is just to the southeast of us here it’s a really nice bicycle ride out

    There actually um you can see wyen ho down at the bottom right there and across um on the west side of the river col there River col NRI is redge and um what’s interesting about redge um if you if you look at the sort of red dotted line demarcated area um

    I’m going to focus in on the bottom right bit that juts out into the EST um and there’s actually that little EST area covered in new housing now and I I don’t know I tried to have a look and I couldn’t find out exactly when that housing was completed but it is

    Very new so new in fact that if you go on to Google satellite images as I did yesterday um you can see that it’s still under construction um and that’s fine because we do require new housing there is a housing crisis here so it’s very much a build build

    Build however if you look at the flood risk data if you consider that this shows the same little uh peninsula there um English flood risks are categorized in FL as FL flood zones 1 2 and three um in a couple of slides time I have some figures about what that exactly means um

    But what you can see essentially here is that uh brand new Hill houses have been built in an area that will be largely affected by the most severe flood zone so flood zone 3 um with that little spit potentially being cut off by that flood zone 2 area

    So um again are we thinking the unthinkable uh by locking future risk in um in our uh efforts to meet housing demand perhaps needs a different approach overall um these risk these risk areas also they only show uh flood risk from rivers in the sea um and they’re based on present

    Day flood risk so incredibly they do not um show how it may change in future because of climate change um and they ignore the effect of flood defenses um shown which isn’t really applicable in this image um so you can see there are not too many flood defenses close by um

    But that perhaps adds another layer of warning to this is that in a way these are best case scenarios as they don’t take um uh climate change into consideration in what is an estery area um so that is just another again not not one of my research areas but um

    A case that um shows a little bit more perhaps about the lack of implementation of some planning regulations um or the use of loopholes um but generally certainly a disconnect from the holistic picture of what it might mean to adapt to climate change at the

    Coast so the um final example here uh no sorry an ultimate example here is from Thorp Ness Thorp Ness is on the East suffk Coast marked there on that map um this is sort of what it looks like um along that bit of Coastline it’s a small enough Village um I did mention

    That storm in 1953 this part of England was also very hardly hard hit by that storm and what I find interesting in the aftermath of that is that um the coastline was set reset where it was before the storm um and so the hold the line policy which still exists along

    This part of Coastline um is set on where the coast was um pre-1953 pre a huge storm and I’m not suggesting that people back then shouldn’t have rebuilt there but it kind of shows you how arbitrary really the whole the line approach can be at the coastline in a in a dynamic

    Situation um which is um which over Millennia has has fluctuated Inland and seawood um but still the policy there is to very much kind of um keep keep the hopes alive in in Thor Ness um and I use this example also to show some kind of sporadic uh um single

    Occup or single household responses to this so this is on that bit of beach there and the little aerial photograph there shows that uh one property took it upon themselves to um dump 750,000 Sterling of Norwegian Rock um in front of their house on what is actually

    A public beach how they got permission to do that I’m not sure um but they’ve they’re kind of um looking after their own house some of you may know um that depending on the direction of of Tides and winds Etc that the edies and the erosion processes can

    Be exemplified either side of this and so there is a greater um Eros there is greater erosion now just to the top right of those stones and that next house along so the top house in the in the picture on the beach um has now been demolished that’s actually been taken

    Down and um it it was no longer safe to live in um again doesn’t show a very coordinated holistic approach to um adapting to climate change another thing I find interesting you can’t really see it but in the bottom right picture there’s a small sign that um just

    Basically tells you not to climb on the Rocks but if you look at the top left picture at high tide this means you can’t actually walk along the beach um So that obviously is an issue as well just across the road from them to the landwood side is a relatively new house

    U which is this one which is actually been designed and built to be moved um So within one small neighborhood you’ve got two very different uh um approaches to dealing with Coastal climate change um I’ll leave it up to you to decide perhaps which one would be more um sustainable going going

    Forward but I’m ending here on a couple of good news bits perhaps that’s a good seg into uh last two messages of of good news is that um the owners of the house that had to be demolished have actually been offered a plot of land um Inland uh for free to

    Rebuild um and if you consider the the Lost Revenue to a developer who for the size of that house might fit um two more modest houses in that plot um it’s actually quite Forward Thinking um in response to the process of of erosion in the area um so that’s kind of a little

    And this is very much not um institutionalized yet this process this is kind of a one-off but shows a glimmer of hope for the future of how we might relocate in some cases very quickly then the final uh case of the area this is to the southwest of London south coast of

    England in the county of um West uh Sussex um I mentioned the witterings you’ve got West and East wittering there just to the east of this you’ve got the town of celi um these are the flood risk zones that I mentioned earlier so a 0.1 annual percent annual

    Probability uh 0.1 to 1% annual probability and uh 1% or greater annual probability of um flooding and the story evolved here that um a the the local Council asked a consultancy company environmental consultency company to assess flood risk in this area um and they firmly put it in zone

    Three um more recently in fact as recently as October of last year there was a u planning planning application to build 280 new houses in this area now according to the planning system uh there’s nothing to stop that happening because the environment agency doesn’t recognize this as risk um a zone

    Three flood risk area remember it was a consultancy agency that that did the work and so over months there was back and forth toing and throwing between the environment agency the consultant the developer who wanted to build the houses and on the 27th of September of

    Last year so this is very recent um the local Council took a vote on whether to um um accept this planning application or to reject it and the day before the vote the developer sent all the councilors a letter and said look if you reject this application what you’re

    Essentially doing is saying that all the existing houses along that beach so and that is 10,000 um houses with uh a net value of 2.6 billion pounds they’re saying you’re essentially saying you’re writing them off and saying look you live in a high-risk area good luck with insurance

    Etc um but the counselors decid decided to stick to their guns uh they decided to think the unthinkable and actually rejected the application and said look um it just doesn’t make sense to build houses here even though if we follow planning guidelines as supported by the environment agency um then we could give

    The green light but we have to think outside the box here this doesn’t make sense going forward in the context of climate change um and it all boils down to this shingle Beach at the seafront really and this is the main um sort of line of

    Defense uh again this is a Hold the Line part of uh part of the country um and what the environment say agency um sorry backtrack when the consultancy company did the work this beach had been depleted by a storm so it was a lower level and the

    Consultants by through no fault of their own assessed that and thought that that isn’t enough protection um and and thus gave it the the highest risk flood risk um grading and the environment agency said well uh we’re going to replenish the shingle Beach and so the protection

    Will be there but again all of this is on kind of the the knife edge of will there always be the resources to keep that Beach uh replenished and build it probably even higher than it is now um so that kind of gives an overview of of

    The of the case in in West Sussex um and I’ve been told by local stakeholders that there just is no holistic Vision or for the coast along um along that path and that that really is also a national problem um a lack of holistic planning at the coast so concluding remarks perhaps a

    Couple of questions as well uh where is the space to think the unthinkable um thinking the unthinkable needn’t be doomsday it’s not about scaring people um it’s about asking important questions and thinking outside the box a little bit some mechanisms do exist uh Coastal change Management areas in England this

    Is a question of implementation um the um Nova scotian Coastal protection act potentially as well uh could be a very strong mechanism in this field again implementation resistance to that um and planning is key again if you can Implement uh planning planning guidelines uh so thank

    You very much and can return control I can stop sharing um my new or my personal email address is there I will will be losing my work email address in about a week’s time so um if I stop the share there perfect that was that was really interesting Glenn um we’re gonna take

    Questions uh you can use the chat here to to type in a question if you’d like we’ll uh relay it to Glenn and see if we can get get those things answered um maybe I’ll I’ll start off a little bit because and we started off with in this

    Discussion and I was struck by some language that really seemed to emphasize uh both urgency and opportunity right when you’ve got a framework for policy that is aiming to address the problem of of you know Coastal risk and says if we implement this policy properly we estimate we

    Could you know see 4% in terms of Damages but that could go up to 30% if we if we do nothing so there’s there’s both a sense of urgency and uh opportunity there right we’re communicating we’ve got we’ve got a system but then shortly afterwards we’re talking about what sounds like under

    Imple implementation of a key tool for addressing this problem with the coastal change Management areas being undersubscribed so I I’m wondering how much of this is just catching up to the the the the urgency that we’re facing in reality how much are we just like is it is it

    Different agencies that are just some somewh behind some are ahead uh are we all just trying to Lurch towards an appreciation for for the urgency of this situation or I don’t know is it yeah is that changing too much yeah I think um I mean the the

    Urgency is kind of writing itself right through um physical processes um and in some instances I think the national policy um lacks teeth and it’s very Noble and it’s um in its kind of goals even things like placemaking I think placemaking is a is a great

    Aspiration really um if you can have new neighborhoods that are well linked by um cycle paths to um good health services and schools and things like that the placemaking policy sort of framework I think is is very strong um the urgency perhaps is lost as well well in

    An issue that I think we’re all facing in in how to communicate this to the general public as well um again trying to avoid doomsday talk and it’s been well proven that the psychology of fear doesn’t really um motivate people very much um but the age old problem of of

    How how do my actions and my desires necessarily affect uh the whole um and and how to communicate that is it’s difficult anyway especially if you have your local Council approving things that seem to make no sense um because there’s there’s a a huge uh shortage of of housing for

    Example um so I’m not sure that really answers your question but perhaps I can’t because yeah acting on that urgency is is a huge aspiration that in some some instances and again my presentation overall today has been a bit negative there there’s great things happening in England as

    Well that we could go into but um yeah well I mean your West Sussex example also shows uh you know some sensible decisions being made even in the face of a housing crisis but also uh pressure from developers which is certainly something we see in in well communities that I’ve lived in

    As well uh very frequently and we don’t always see a sensible reaction to that but um yeah that was a good example just a followup just a follow-up point in that I don’t know how much this um happens over there but um one thing that unfortunately happens here is that

    Housing developers um Can often dissolve the company once the houses are built and um kind of just step sidestep any responsibilities um for and it needn’t be erosion or flood risk uh issues um but there are I forget the word now when you’re not responsible um take no

    Liability essentially for for what they create and that that is bit of an issue that that happens here quite a lot perhaps you might have heard of the the grenfell fires in London they’re in the tower blocks um and basically wild fire spread through the block because there

    Was um poor quality cladding which caught fire and didn’t meet regulations um and people just trying to trying to see where the buck stops on that is so difficult excent so we got a couple of comments here some um comments just just to the the presentation overall um including comments from uh sociologist

    Working in Nova Scotia pointing to the fact that this gives us some uh examples of of what not to do and it sounds like like maybe also some some models for approaching um the issue of of coastal resilience Improvement overall we do have a question here are there policies

    Or campaigns to increase a sense of self-interest in a more holistic approach to get I I suppose that means to get communities uh on board with Coastal risk management I suppose yeah um yeah so I’m just going to quickly um share my screen just for a moment again there I did

    Have um these are not sort of proper slides really um oh I do have some references there as well um but this final one I suppose uh especially the especially the picture on the left there uh this is somewhere where I went for Christmas actually with my parents

    Not this year but the year before on the North norfor Coast um and you can see that the issue that the situation amongst along this coastline is is quite serious in some places incredibly that house on the right so this is a walk that I did along the beach to the pub

    And when I came back an hour and a half later it was dark and the lights were on and there was washing hanging uh to dry in in one of the rooms so um that still occupied that house which blows my mind um but North norol uh Coast working with noraz

    Organization um sorry North Norfolk C Council are working with Coastal partnership East on a coastal transition accelerator program I believe it’s called um and this program is really being designed to get the community together um and kind of come up with a sort of co-design adaptation along the

    Coast um and they won resilience innovation funding it’s called and so um they’re trying to kind of lead the way on um not only do we have to adapt at the coast but we also there has to be some buyin from local communities and so there there I don’t

    Know too much about how the project is is developing but they are um really kind of coming with a some bottomup ideas of how we might um adapt at the coastline and that particular example referred to engineering with nature right are they I I don’t know what the

    Language is like in the UK is that sort of green infrastructure is was what I would think here is that what they’re using there too yeah that one on the on the right the EST one the other picture yeah um so that is actually pretty much that’s at the witterings that I just

    Presented it’s in that area it’s called the medmar nature reserve and it’s um essentially they just gave that EST back to uh the sea um there was very little loss in terms of built assets um which kind of eased the process but um building with nature uh nature-based

    Solutions and the government’s doing a pretty good job of of uh tying that in with placemaking as well and so uh medmar was build primarily or was sold primarily as a flood risk management uh scheme um but that area is hugely important for uh uh breeding birds as well and so

    They’ve managed to attract a lot of um birders to the area to come and spend a dime or two in the local economy as well excellent uh perfect um we have a question there um Ron I think I don’t know if we’ve got it set up some

    Microphones can turn on but you can give it a shot Ron hi Glen I might have missed it but who were you working with at Del housy um I was working at Bertram McDonald in the um School of Information Management although it changed its name when I was there um and Patricia Manuel

    As well at uh School of planning recently I think both of them have been trying to retire for a while um but they were my hosts and have either of you to either of them told you about the more recent major funding uh for transforming climate action here it’s sadal Memorial

    Where Joel is from and a couple univers in Quebec and it’s seven-year kind of research and a lot of it’s about ocean and carbon absorption and that kind of climate change part but a lot of the research is also about coasts including Patricia and Bertram and others so you

    Might want to keep in touch if there’s opportunities to collaborate there yeah cool but I was very much aware of that I think there’s a echo in that yeah I think I was very much aware of that going on um one of the last times I saw

    Beram before I left actually was uh you might have I don’t know if you’re involved but there was a a big room of people trying to decide where the funding was going and um so uh and beram gave me some documents to read through and it all looked really really interesting um

    There’s still a a research element to my my new job going forward as well and um I know my students will be Keen to hear about other things going on so I’m definitely going to keep uh in close contact I do typically meet with their research group Marine spatial planning

    Research group um every couple of weeks so good good lines kept open there thank you okay good thanks I’ll make a a last call here for any final questions I think we’ve got time for one more if anybody does have one apart from can I do it all

    Again like give us give us some updates on new case these five years into the future see things you’re looking yeah that’ll be perfect excellent well um thanks again Glenn that was that was really interesting that’s it’s fascinating to see how how things are working in different jurisdictions and

    Yes thanks again to everybody who’s shown up as well I remind you that that information about this uh recording a recording of this thing will go up um sometime soon if you’ve registered for this talk you’ll receive one fairly soon I’ll also stress that we also have

    Another uh panel discussion coming up um later on in this winter at the end of February on the 29th this is going to be a panel discussion with uh a few people we’re going to talk um about the implications of using different scenarios uh for the purposes of

    Planning so this builds a little bit on what Glenn was was discussing we we’ve got different estimates of what the future might look like uh there’s some increasing conflict about which ones maybe should be emphasized or deemphasized and so you got people are from different perspectives who who will

    Address that some people who work with designing these scenarios some physical scientists who use them some Engineers who who make sense of them in the context of planning and um also some practitioners uh working with Climate Services who make sense of this uh for their various clients uh so expect it’s

    Going to be an interesting discussion um again February 29th and there’s a link here that you can you can find with our QR code so with that I’ll sign off we’ll leave this up for a minute for anybody who wants to take down that information

    But uh thanks again I hope to see you all soon uh at this next event

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