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Hey kids it’s F here hope you’re well welcome back to the channel and welcome to another bike review this one something quite different for me I’m riding the Indian sport Chief now to me that’s uh that’s quite a title because uh Indians are in my mind sort of big
American cruiser bikes but this has the word sport in the title to Hell sporty can it be well stick around stay tuned let’s find out All righty so welcome back to the channel and uh this absolutely beautiful day here in sunny suffk in September we’ve had an absolutely rubbish uh summer this year in blight is I’ve winged a lot on my Channel about and uh we actually got a little bit of a heat
Wave here at the start of September when I’m recording this so uh it’s a really good day to be out on a bike I borrow this for my friends at Crazy Horse in barison eans so that’s why I’m here in suffk I don’t know the area particularly
Well so I could get lost but that’s all part of the fun isn’t it anyway back to the bike first thing I noticed about it is uh it’s got quite an interesting riding position but uh before we get into that and how it feels
To ride and so on let me just show you around the bike just show you some of the little uh design touches and so on on this sport Cruiser okay so let’s take a look at the Indian sport Chief then what a lovely looking motorcycle I think uh I really
Do love the engineering on these Cruisers the first thing I home in on is this engine I mean look at this this is what they call the 116 thunderstroke engine it’s the thing of beauty as you can see it’s all blacked out but beautiful attention to detail I love the
Way they’ve uh got the uh shiny or metall looking um cooling fins it just makes the makes the things stand out and look beautiful great attention to detail on this bike I love all the logos that you can see around the engine really really nice uh let’s uh start from the
Front and sort of work our way through so unusually it’s got this fairing on the front which I guess is kind of sport spiky uh but as you can see if I move the handlebars it’s one of those fairings that does move with the forks
So it’s not like it’s fixed um so the you know the headlight moves as you uh as you move the handlebars it’s one if you see what I mean not explain that very well but anyway there we go uh so yeah I like the look of the fairing that
Works really well we’ll talk more about that shortly um coming around this side you can see everything is blacked out big old exhaust blacked out uh notably it is of course a belt drive so no chain maintenance that’s always a plus point as far as I’m concerned LED headlights
All around uh number plate mounted on the side they not sure whether I like that mountain position or not there’s always a problem isn’t it with these sorts of bikes where you stick the number plate but uh yeah overall a lovely looking thing if we come down
This side often you don’t see the side of the bikes do you you can see it says 116 cubic in there in big American lettering and then the lovely Indian uh logos there uh coming around this side again what else to point out oh one
Thing I noticed down at the um look down at the rear brake pedal you’ve actually got the uh brake fluid reservoir just there right near the pedal which is quite unusual isn’t it but uh just uh something I noticed anyway there we go that is the Indian sport Chief I think
She’s a looker and with all that black outness no Chrome to polish so easy to keep clean okay so welcome back aboard so much for what she looks like what does she ride like well in a word I think I’d sum it up as characterful which is uh often the case
Isn’t it with these big American Cruisers now I have to be up front and say I don’t regard myself as a cruiser man but I have ridden a few Harley-Davidsons and I have ridden a few Indians now and uh I’ve never ridden an Indian that I don’t like oh tractors
Just pulled out in front of me how annoying to me can I see around this no and I got a solid white line well oh well let’s have a check while we uh wait I think that if you’re going to have a big American Cruiser type bike
Then you should have a big American Cruiser so in other words what I mean is don’t buy BMW r8t or or whatever they call you know the big twin thing byy yourself a Harley or an Indian the authentic proper American Cruiser and for me Indian you’re just that little bit different to Harley
Aren’t we everybody thinks of Harley-Davidson when you think of American Cruisers they don’t necessarily think of Indian so for me Indian cond of wins as a brand we’ve got an opportunity to overtake here yes we have now this bike has massive shove was in common with all other Cruisers it has a
Huge engine we’ll go through the spec in a minute but what is different is this riding position and it does actually feel quite sporty my feet are relatively forward they’re not it’s not a feet forward bite by any means in fact for a cruiser type bike this is probably
Regarded as as midet peakes my feet are uh just just behind my knee slightly I’m LED quite a far quite far forward though so that’s what gives it it sort of sporty feel I think the handlebars are really high on these uh on these massive bar risers but it’s uh much more comfortable
Than you would think when I first got on the bike I thought Alo I’m not going to like this it feels weird but actually I’m now deciding it feels weird in a good way the handlebars look narrow but there’s no lack of leave the handling actually around these
Corners is is lovely you don’t have to give it lots of input and dare I say it it does actually feel quite light and sporty again all all these things are Rel it but it yeah it just rolls it at these Corners beautifully I do love the steering so
Okay back to the rition Comfort so the seat itself you can’t move around on it cuz it’s sculpted but uh yeah feels pretty pretty comfortable and because you are LED forward a bit over the handle bars unlike other Cruisers I’ve written it doesn’t feel like all you
Weight is going into your Coxx I think you’d be all right for extended periods of time on this one what I don’t like is there are quite a bit of Vibes on the bike through the handlebars it seems all rev so far there are quite a lot of Vibes going
On and that means you can feel you can feel it through the seat you can feel it through the handle bars and indeed I don’t know if you can see the blur mirrors but there’s quite a lot of vibration there too so if you don’t like Vibe your bikes this one isn’t for
You but I guess that’s all part of the character the clutch on here not as heavy as you would think actually it’s got this massive lever uh but actually it’s quite like to use the gearbox is quite positive it’s quite clunky and I have had a couple of force
Neutrals but I think that’s just a matter of getting used to it but it’s proper mechanical you can feel you know this bike has been built by Burly men with spanners in a big Factory somewhere it’s got all that American Cruiser charm that you’re going to want lots of
Double White Lines here impinging my ability to overtake while we’re waiting for other roads to appear let me go through some of the switch gear what we’re looking at here what I love about the Indians is the um display that they do they they do this um round D but it’s
Got a TFT in it it’s full of functions it’s touch sensitive as well and you should be able to use it with your glove he says these might not be the right sort of gloves but uh it is touch sensitive there you go it does work with
These gloves and there’s all sorts of information on here in this first ride review I can’t go into the detail it’s just really a quick look at the bike but it’s even got a proper inbuilt fully featured saav which is something I I really like so few bikes have that uh my
Gold Wing does and that’s about the only other bike I can think of that has that uh so that is an excellent feature you don’t have to hook it up to your phone you don’t have to rely on your phone signal you have got a SAT have built in
Which is absolutely excellent so I love that display and you can customize it as well you can have it in various formats I like this one with it with what looks like oldfashioned gauges uh on the on the round ale itself that’s the sort of
Thing I wish TR would do that on their retro style bikes rather than the heath Robinson uh Affairs they have I think that looks really really good so I like that switch gear on it typical American Cruiser uh not much to say really about it it’s quite positive to use it’s easy
Enough to use it’s all kind of obvious It Is keyless this bike so I suppose the only thing that’s not quite obvious is how you start and stop it which in this case is that’s kind of the on button if you like and then you start and stop it
With these buttons here cruise control on the right as well always handy if you’re on a cruiser uh and everything else where you’d expect it around these big sweepy corers it’s uh it’s beautiful it’s quite a heavy bike in fact let’s go through the numbers let’s talk uh let’s quickly
Whis through the spect no motorcycle review is complete without quick with through the spec is it so let’s quickly do that then starting off with this incredibly beautiful looking engine at least to my eyes it is this is 116 cubic inch air c v twin it actually works out
If you’re European at 1890 CC so massive old lump it’s called the thunderstroke 116 what a fantastic name in terms of its power output I have no idea actually what the power output is I couldn’t find any figures for that but uh torque wise it’s 120 ftlb of torque at 2,900 RPM as
Ever low grunt is the name of the game brakes on the front we’ve got dual 320 mil discs with Brembo four pot calipers rear brake is this single 300 mil disc with a two-pot caliper that’s badged Indian suspension on the front is provided by these 43 mil KYB upside down
Forks and uh I can’t see that they’re adjustable at all at the rear we’ve got these dual Fox piggyback shocks which are kind of in keeping with the whole Cruiser Vibe seat height on the bike is a very low 686 mm that might be one of the lowest seat Heights I’ve ever ridden
With and it makes for a very easy bike to ride you and get your feet planted down nicely the weight of the chief in running order is 311 kg so actually not as heavy as you might have thought tank capacity on the sport Chief is 15.1 l so
Quite small for this size of engine I’ll imagine this will be quite thirsty but what I want to do is show you the TFT when it starts up if I turn the bike on takes a little while but it’s got this amazing animation that comes on I hope
You’ll be able to see there we go check that out that just uh I really like that sort of thing I’m easily pleased when it comes to that but while we’re talking about that sort of thing let’s just uh think about the electronics on the bike
So it has this 4-in touchcreen with what Indian call ride command uh it’s got uh Bluetooth connectivity for nav phone uh if you want that or it’s got that built-in saf it’s got LED lights all around riding modes keyless ignition and a USB port so actually pretty well
Sorted for electronics I know what you’re thinking how much is the sport Chief going to cost me well you can have one of these for $19,995 and the any other things to mention I guess is it’s got that clever rear cylinder deactivation so if you’re sitting in traffic or low RPMs the rear
Cylinder uh shuts off so it doesn’t get so hot which is a a nice move also helpful for fuel economy uh and the other thing to note is that it comes in three colors this black red gray or blue in fact that’s four colors isn’t it okay that’s
The numbers covered off then let’s talk a bit more about the uh the ride on the bike so it is called the sport Chief it’s quite interesting because it’s got a slightly different naming convention to the other Indian chiefs which are all called Chief something whereas in this
Case this they put the sport first I don’t know why they’ve done that but I was intrigued as to how sporty this bike would feel and all all these things are relative but I think it’s a fair it’s a fair thing to say that it does feel sporty surprising myself saying that
These roads are quite bumpy around here lots of drains and potholes and things like that but uh the suspension is doing quite a nice job of soaking all that up for a cruiser I’d say the suspension is fairly hard again all these things are relative it’s not
The handling that is nice on this bike and that’s because it’s got slightly stiffer suspension that allied with its weight as well means that once you set it up in the turns it just feels planted this bike which is nice but I think the geometry on the
Bike is such that it turns much quicker than uh other Cruisers I’ve ridden then I’m going to have an opportunity to get past this traffic what a lovely part of the country this is by the way especially on the day like today isn’t this beautiful what is this
Village I’m in I have no idea hope I can find my way back to Crazy hor in a minute come on let me overtake slow speed control I mean here I am I’m only doing 20 Behind These slow cars uh and the fueling is is absolutely
Lovely but once you uh get get the chance to open her up here’s a little opportunity coming up if I can see passes traffic once we get past these Nationals should be able to experience the immense torque that this massive thunderstroke engine has to offer here we Go fire the Fier absolutely ous the engine not even kicking up any sort of a sweat easy peasy Even at high revs though still feeling those vibes through the seat so uh something to be aware of if your anti Vibe this fairing on the front does a remarkably good job I mean it’s a bizarre shape I’ve never seen sat behind a fairing quite like that on a bike
Before but putting my hand here I can feel I’m the air is calm right the way up to my helmet and in fact I’m getting no buffeting whatsoever even though that looks quite small that fairing it’s doing an amazingly good job it’s quite low as well you’re not
Looking through it you’re not looking through a screen which annoys me it feels like you’re riding a Naked Bike I’ve got absolutely no wind buffeting whatsoever which is a surprise in a in a very good way that works really well the most wind I’m feeling is around my
Legs and oddly I’m getting some on my chest I don’t quite know how that works cuz as I say my head and shoulders aren’t in in any any Buffet but uh yeah that’s doing a doing a good job it’s beautiful around these corners and the pegs are high enough that you
Don’t feel like you’re going to scrap them which is often an issue on a cruiser but nothing behind me let just try the brakes wow you have to give the front brakes quite a whole them to have any effect let me just try the rear oh actually the rear is very
Good which is odd brakes are kind of the opposite way around to what you expect the rear is very good front you have to really get give them A Yank it’s not that they’re not any good it’s just that you do have to pull the bre the lever quite hard but then that’s
The case with heavy bikes isn’t it this bike is fitted with the uh standard exhaust and the engine though it’s very nice it’s very muted I have to say this is not one of those bikes that’s going to really upset your neighbors uh if you take her out early
On a Sunday morning just got a nice Rumble to it I like it really do like this display on here they’ve done a top job on here that engine note is so lazy on here it’s uh it’s Brill very very easy bike to ride I have to say sometimes these heavy Cruisers
Can be intimidating that is not the case in this bike look my feet completely flat on the deck lovely low seat makes it very confidence inspiring as I say and very easy to ride man this is what summer should be like isn’t it absolutely superb some lovely attention to detail on the
Bike I love this bit on the tank here it says Indian Motorcycle I love the little logo here on the clamp at the top really nice job in terms of the build quality but why is it I attract Vans and trucks all the time so what is my sort of summing up on
This first ride my first impressions of the Indian sport Chief what am I likes and dislikes well let’s uh get the negatives out the way first my dislikes for me personally are The Vibes on the bike some people would describe that as character for me they’re a bit much you
Might uh find it fine but uh that’s something I’m not so keen on definitely gives it character you know you’re on a motorcycle that’s that’s fine um so Vibes are one thing that uh that I’m not keen on and then the other thing are is the braking the brakes on here aren’t
Very good again you get used to that uh so not necessarily a problem but they’re not as good as you you’d expect uh on this bike but those are the only things that I don’t like about the bike there’s plenty to love about this bike I love
The way it looks actually I think it’s unusually well it’s a very unusual design you’re going to either like it or not very personal thing I like the way it looks I love the way it goes the shoving this thunderstroke engine is just incredible these bikes are always
Always about the torque and this just puts a big grin on your face and that’s what that’s what’s important about motorcycles say I love the grin Factor on this I really love what they’ve done with the electronics on it it’s you know it’s full of upto-date tech this you
Know things like the Saab and so on um but they they displayed it in this very nice and simple way if you just want a classic look you can go with this dial which is what I like or you can have the satinav or and and you know it’s all
Tailorable I love that the switch gear is easy to use I like the way the bike sounds it’s not obnoxiously loud but it but it does sound good it’s comfortable I actually like the seating position which is again something that sometimes puts me off of Cruisers but seating position on this is
Lovely build quality is great yeah there’s a lot to like about the Indian sport Chief if you’re in the market for a big Cruiser and you fancy something like this maybe your first cruiser bike something that’s not too intimidating then uh this is definitely definitely one to consider or recommend
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46 Comments
When people think own-the-road “American cruiser” it may be more prudent to reflect on the ones armed with nuclear weapons, especially the Long Beach class like the CGN-39 Texas, CGN-41 Arkansas or (not to be confused with Triumph’s Thruxton) the CGN-35 Truxtun. Both literally and figuratively, ya wanna give those babies a very, very wide berth . . .
Always liked the Scout, but not the bigger ones, too much chromed plastic and not quite a Harley. This one seems to have nailed it though, love the instruments.
HD, Indian & others. Whatever you like your still a biker, I will acknowledge you. However, the only cruiser i'd consider is Rocket 3. Hey each to their own n enjoy.
Yes I can feel myself getting more tattoos and riding across the states , great looking bike
Nice looking bike 😊
Sport 😂😂😂😂
Ride camera 😩….🇨🇦😎good vid
If only the switchgear was bigger 😂
I love the engine and belt drive but I have to say the rest is ugly 👍🏍
There is an Indian dealership in my town every time I go in there I am overwhelmed by the presence and build quality of these bikes but they are just so expensive my £5k Triumph gives me the cruiser vibe. I have had several cruisers and they have all handled well not sure what people expect, the road surfaces are crap in UK and there's speed restrictions everywhere riding cruisers makes a lot of sense to me 😊
I have ridden a few of the larger touring orientated Indians and like the brand. I feel Harley Davidson are usually better finished and over in New Zealand, a better re-sale. Amongst my bikes I have a 2021 HD Sportglide 107 with stage 2 cam updates. I agree with you, the cruisers are good for the laid back rides and especially in stronger winds as the weight minimises cross wind buffeting. The group of guys I ride with are on Suzuki Hyabushas, BMW, KTMs, Triumph 765 Street Triples & Ducati so I mainly ride my R1200R or the Ducati Multistrada V2S. Like you, I enjoy taking out the 1200 Triumph Speed Twin for shorter rides in the twisties. Keep up the good work.
Might go for one next!!!! Thank you for the upload.
You got to enjoy life as it is not a practice for another chance
Pricey fella, the Sport Chief, isn't it.
Not for me but a lovely looking thing.
I’d look at changing the brake pads for something with more feel. I know someone who’s bought one in Australia and is besotted with it.
Another great review. If I was in the market for a new bike, and I'm told I'm not lol, this is one I would certainly take a look at. I have been an admirer of the Indian brand for quite a while. Love the display too. Thank you again Mr Flyer.
About five years ago when I left my GSX-R750 in for a service the dealer who are also the sole Indian suppliers in N.I. lent me an Indian scout bobber which really surprised me with the amount of power and decent handling, I'd previously ridden my friends H-D 48 which was meant to be a direct competitor but it was no contest, the Harley was gutless in comparison and handled like a barge.
A hell of a frame to hold that huge V-Twin and obviously not a stressed member, which will be one reason why the bike vibrates. Did you know, the stressed member engine was patented in 1900 by Joah ("John") Carver Phelon and his nephew Harry Rayner, and pioneered by Harley-Davidson!
Nice review. How does it handle compared to the BMW NineT for example or other modern retro bikes?
I'm seeing a lot more love for the Indian motorcycles in the past year, in fact, more than Harley Davidson. I'm not sure if others have noticed, but the new Harley Davidson Pan America looks VERY similar to the Indian range in terms of the fairing/headlights. I like the Super Chief Limited which kind of reminds me of the old American CHIPS bikes from the 80's.
It must be me…… When you said you've never ridden an Indian you didn't like made me instantly think of the Karma Sutra!🤣🤣🤣
My friend has the Indian Challenger Limited. I’ve ridden it a few times it’s a beautiful bike and tons of power for a cruiser. I’ve ridden most of the Harley models and they are overpriced, have good fit and finish but terrible suspension and handling, and unless you throw a bunch of money at them they lack decent passing power. The challenger is in my opinion the best “BIG” cruiser out there right now.
god what an ugly bike🤮
Ugly at the front (headlights) and end side is the first thing I notice.
No passenger or luggage possible. Fuel tank is too small. Not suited for touring.
I like it that the satnav is build in.
I’m not a fan of those big American bikes. For me it’s all a big too much. Too big, too heavy, too much bling.
I want a more practical bike that you can use for commuting, traveling and touring with weather protection and luggage capacity.
I own a speedmaster,and the build quality for me is far better than these Indians,
Very nice review. I have never ridden Indian motorbike but I think it is very similar to Harley.
On a different note, are you planning to do a review on the new BMW S1000RR and compare it with the the preview model?
When you were overtaking the clock went red, was that red lining or just a warning to change up?
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I also like the looks of this bike, somewhat snazzier than a Harley? If I was going to change to cruiser style I'd definitely look this one up thanks to your review. :>)
Beautiful… Japan cannot build these bikes like the Americans do… Regarding "the vibes" remember… It's an iron horse!
I think the black would look the best on a bike like this.
You don't say which mode you were in, but sport mode makes it a much sportier experience!
I ride an Indian motorcycle too a KTM Duke 390 (made in India). .also well done on the small print Mr Missenden ~ great copy!
Just curious if the vibes are thumping pulse like? Or Kawasaki Concours paralyze your hand in 10 minutes?
anytime you are riding that route taking a bike out from Krazy Horse, the big roundabout you turn round at has a biker haunt 500 yards up the Brandon road. Walkers Cafe.
The inspiration for the Sport Chief is without doubt Harley’s own FXR series….I myself have one, and it handles quite well….Eric Buell hand a hand beefing up the frame when they were designing it. Overall it reflects the club style which Harley and Indian both are exploiting to the extent possible. Personally I like what is on offer. Low revving well handling bikes make more sense than you will ever understand.
Indians just too expensive for the lack of performance and features. Shame because I dont mind them but could never justify over a Triumph. Better build quality, better performance, bigger cool factor, better dealer network, better warranty, better reliability, AND significantly cheaper.
Glad somebody likes it, I don’t.
311 kg !! Yes, it is actually a "bit heavier", than i thought 😃 Nice bike though.
It's a bit heavy for a bike advertising itself as a Sport model, but I'm used to big V-twins so for me it's not an issue, but for some smaller riders who are not used to manhandling a heavy bike it might present a problem, and probably impossible to lift if falls over. Other thing, change gear, they're smoother than the way you're riding it in low gears.
Another brilliant video, i do like tge look on the indian sport chief, its definitely a head turner, any more tours coming up butty i really like them videos
Looks good. It wouldn’t be my first choice though
Sons of Missenden see it now 😮 nice bike,,bet on a wet day your back would be mucky,, nice change and a direct challenge to Harley,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
Hmmm, 300kg+ is never going feel sporty… Perhaps this explains why you felt the brakes were a bit lacking. I'd love to see you review a fully dressed Indian tourer like the Roadmaster, now that would be awesome! Quite a contrast to your Goldwing I imagine.
PS. Maybe fewer vibes if you use higher gears and take advantage of the low-rev engine torque?
they really couldn’t be bothered to give some extra suspension travel, an inch was all they could muster🤦♂️
otherwise, a perfectly serviceable ride
Hi Andy, I read the disclaimer at 3 seconds and agree 100%. Also grew up in the 70s, (point 7). Currently enjoying the Japan series. Having owned a 2016 R1200GS, regret selling it, I'm also a "GS fan boy".
Keep up the good work. Cheers from Australia.
Coming late to this review but I have to agree, it's a great looking machine. I have a several bikes in my garage and have just ridden a similar machine. I'm very tempted to replace my aging Wide Glide…decisions… Loving the channel. Cheers