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Bro this is your first tour man like not going to see them raise together and the tour they’re not going to want any of that smoke holy moly that guy was on fire picking up right where he left off the only reason I want to talk about him

Is cuz I think we need to lump him into the American category watching it going like yeah Remco welcome welcome to the world as like the a premier Topline favorite like you’re like you’re not going to win all the time welcome back to on the podium Brent

Bookwalter here joined by TJ vardan uh we’re going to get right into it we got an exciting racing week that we’re capping off at Perry we have two Americans on the podium Brandon mcel Mato Jorgenson we’re going to talk about the big four for the tour to France

Where they all stand after these last couple weeks of racing what’s up with Primos rogich we’re going to talk about some of the races coming up Milan Sano Volta catalunia pre preview might touch on these crazy out of this world time trial helmet Tech that we’ve been seeing

And is hyped hyped hyped the past couple of weeks that’s what we got coming up today but first before we get into that TJ I’m back here with you man uh TJ vardin you guys probably remember him from the race days I remember him from uh our time together as teammates we

Spent countless days and nights weeks months uh monking out on the top of a a mountain preparing for races and then and doing all these races together as well paring e tour to France so TJ you’re back here we’re back together what are you up to where are you at tell

Us what’s going on yeah man great to see you uh yeah all those years as a teammate with you I probably spent more time with you than I did with my own wife but uh it’s great to see you again you look great uh enjoying retirement uh right now I’m in

Andor um doing a little camp with the team before Catalonia I got my family up here so gonna try to sneak onto the ski slopes for a little bit um and yeah other than that I’ve been directing with ef uh for the past three years this is my third year also directing for

The uh USA national team for the worlds and the Olympics so had a had a pretty full plate since my retirement but um definitely enjoying the other side of things it’s good to see you’re still embracing that uh shoddy European internet might might be a little choppy

Here for our beyond the podium episode today but uh yeah man I’m psyched to be back with you I like to talk bike racing and and honestly I’m glad that you’ve been in the mix I know you’ve already had a really St calendar of races that

You’ve been in the car already for U for team EF and I got to admit I’m just sort of getting opened up in terms of my bike race spectating form I was pretty out of the loop in some of these early season races but uh I gotta say like I was just

Um woken up this past week uh which I think leads us right into that first topic of Americans on the podium at Perry nce whoa I was I mean I knew these guys were capable of it but seeing them seeing the way they race seeing how they

EX executed and then seeing that stack field that they were up against I mean TJ you yourself have done some really powerful rides at Perry n we both know everything that race entails the the miserable weather uh the huge amounts of climbing stacked up into the end of it

What does that mean for these two guys in American cycling look I mean to be up there in perin it’s you have to be the most complete Rider um there’s nothing that you that perin leaves off the table you got crosswind you got bad weather you

Got climbs uh they did a t Team time trial this year usually it’s an individual time trial but uh I mean it’s a full complete test and um you know the fact we had two guys up there uh Mato and and Brandon uh that’s just that’s incredible that shows

A lot and how young they are too that just shows huge things for the future yeah I was I was really to see Matteo pull off the win and I got to say like I was a little surprised that he could pull off the win I saw his team

Give him that number one bib as team leader which in a new team in such a stack team I was kind of opened my eyes like whoa these guys are they’re backing him uh that brought me back to one of my favorite memories of Mato which was at

The tour to France two years ago his first tour I was I was not racing the race I was working the race also commentating on it and contributing to it and uh I watched Mato get into one of these race winning bre breakaways in his first tour uh it actually went to the

Line he was you know inches off feet off the win um and I was jumping up and down I could not believe it you know first tour to France almost wins the stage and the guy crosses the line and he is just he he feels defeat frustration he is so

Mad at himself I rate because he felt the win he knew he was capable of it I’m like bro this is your first tour man like you got in a breakaway you got in a winning Breakaway you were there to fight and he’s like no that’s not enough

Man like I’m here to win uh so it’s been awesome to see that he’s been able to continue that and channel that and cultivate it into a big win at one of the world’s most premier races oh he’s a he’s a champion for sure I mean he’s a competitor um you know

Anything you want to say any c cliche you want to throw I mean he’s got that that it factor that uh it it’s not going to be enough so um no he’s going to be psyched with this win but it’s only going to motivate him for more and uh

And yeah it doesn’t surprise me at all that he was pissed after that Tour stage because that’s that’s just the kind of person he is well and you said the it factor I think like speaking of being it man TJ you know what it’s like to be it

In terms of American cycling you know you were you were touted as the Next Great American Grand Tour Contender you finished top five in the tour to France two times you got to know now Matteo Jorgenson Brandon mcnalty you know us Americans we love a winner we want a

Winner we want to see an American can win the Tour to France again so inevitably Brandon Matteo you know we have a host of other Americans uh neelon Palace SE cus is already a grand tour winner they’re for sure going to be labeled and hyped as the next winner of

The tour to France what how is that going to affect him and do you think these guys can shoulder that weight that you felt you know what that’s like tell us about that yeah well I think these guys are these guys are all pretty cool kids um I

Don’t I don’t see that being as much of a factor I mean you got to remember that uh both of the all all the guys you just mentioned between Mato SE they’re both on yumbo visma and they have the winner of the past two tours and Brandon he’s

On UAE he’s got you know the winner of also two tours before that um so I don’t think a whole lot of pressure is going to be heaped on them and not a whole lot of expectation I think they should just get to the tour help their leader and

Then shine through in that way kind of the same way cus did um you know he was up there in the mountains you know shepher his leader whittling the group down to just three or four guys if these guys can show that they can do that you

Know then they’re going to get their chance the same way septed and the welta and they just they just progress naturally um rather than getting way out ahead of themselves thinking oh I’m going to be the next tour to France winner for America before before they’re really ready for

It yeah makes sense I mean you talked about just now both of those guys ride for the premier tour to France uh some of the Premier tour to France contenders the favorites uh everyone’s kind of hyping them as the big four this year you got yonas fingo today pachar Remco

Evole uh Primo rogl on a new team so let’s assess let’s let’s go through this report card where are those guys at I think one of the big surprises for me after Perry was Primos rogich it it was his first race of the year so you know

I’ll give him that he he didn’t get to prep with another series of races like many of these guys did but a lot of people are saying he’s a little off the back 10th place at Perry for a tour to France Contender uh I’d agree I think um

Not a stellar standout showing I think he’s played it down he’s saying everything’s under control the win at Perry n is not going to change my life I’d agree with him there but I’d also say that seeing the way Primos rogich has raced in the past the guy is an

Assassin he does not take any prisoners he loves stamping his authority on races sprinting for bonus seconds attacking guys even when he’s winning so I got to think that Primos and his Bor his Bora team are a little disappointed with that 10th place at pinise yeah I mean I I wouldn’t say it’s

Full Panic right now but I mean I was looking at where he lost the time okay he lost 53 seconds in the team time trial uh you minus 20 seconds because UAE just kind of blew everyone else out so he only lost like 20 seconds at the

End of the day he was 5 and a half minutes down so what are we going to I mean what are we supposed to do with those other five minutes um where are we going to get I don’t really buy the whole thing yeah I don’t I don’t really buy

The whole thing with the it’s his first race of the year I was I was directing Tano adriatico last year and he won like 10 of the eight stages and just and it was his first race of the year and just uh like you said he was an assassin blew

Everyone out of the water and I was like when I saw him at Perry he’s never been the guy to just ride away and gain five minutes the way vingo does but he holds the wheels he nickel and dimes sometimes he goes for bonus seconds he’ll always win in a

Sprint he was kind of relegated to the wheels in this race and then and then lost huge chunks on that final day which was suited to him perfectly he does good in cold weather he does good in technical stuff obviously he can climb um I mean the change to the team could

Like that change of scenery new bike all that stuff you can kind of give him a little leeway there but uh I don’t know it’s not like he it’s not like he went from a to a small program I mean Bor is a how a Powerhouse Squad with good good

Support so I don’t know it’s going to be interesting to see where real glitch goes from here usually you don’t you don’t see races like that from Primos yeah I’d agree not a disaster for Primos but when you put him up against the other three uh in this big four

Report card you know everyone else has came out and you know for all intensive purposes just crushed it we got yonas vingo over in tan ater ATO the past week holy moly that guy was on fire picking up right where he left off you know of

Course his first race of the year the grand Camino where he won there won a couple stages people can argue well you know he’s a multi-time tour to France winner this is a lower level race of course he’s going to bust everyone’s doors down but torano adriatico this is

One of the Premier races of the spring a lot of guys strong teams have their have a bullseye on that race and and and he still made quick work of him with a multi-e winning margin uh so obviously a really strong T start for him and then

You know his prime tour to France Contender today pagach we haven’t seen him race a ton this year but that move he pulled in strata Bianca that was I mean that was one for the record books that that solo moved just pure class pure physicality showing that he is at

Purely another level so uh you know looking at those two guys it’s going to be really excited to um well I guess see how they individually both play out because as we talked about before they’re ducking each other they’re they’re not going to line up against

Each other for for a long time and I I I kind of see it but I kind of want to call them on it too I mean give the people what they want give us a preview give us that meaty showdown of the tour to France before we get

There oh yeah those guys I think they’re going to be we’re not going to see them raised together until the tour they’re not going to want any of that smoke um and going back to torano adriatico I know that yonas he had a super impressive ride but one thing that Tano

Was missing from traditional Tano adriatico were those like was that one stage with this crazy narrow roads the super steep climbs a super technical like cobbles kind of it was either kind of a Sprint or a summit finish or like a or like a genuine GC day it missed sort of that

Like that kind of tour of Flanders or Amstel gold sort of race that Tano usually has and that’s was something that um I would want to see Jonas tested at because I think that if I were to test those guys or compare those guys side by side pogar and yonas pogar would

Have the the nod in that like he can win in a technical battle uh a straight power to weight ratio endurance battle like I think yonas we all know we all know what he is we didn’t see any surprises from him but we didn’t really see him

Tested um yeah I was a little I was a little like disappointed with that terraino Cor what do you think yeah now that I’m watching it and not racing but yeah I mean Tano was always known for having these elimination Death March matches where you know 80% of the field is just

Looking at the time cut and looking at the ridiculous amount of laps they have to do up some 20% grade crazy go-kart track finishing circuit and uh and yeah that was missing this year which as a competitor it’s like come on thank you we don’t you know a lot of these guys

Are saying we don’t need that uh but yeah I agree you know if if there was going to be a sort of in Jonas’s armor it might be in that slightly more technical um risk prone sort of environment and stage and we didn’t get

To see that in Tano this year uh but you know we do have uh the next race on his calendar I believe is the tour of the bass country and and that race is littered with those kind of stages uh and we will see a match up against

Primos rogich there uh and REM Remco EV pole so we’re going to get to see three of the big four there uh and then Pacha you know we’re going to get to see him next um just next week at at Milan Sano like uh I wanted to talk about Evan AOL

Also and the way that he tried to just ride everyone off his wheel the last day I I feel like he’s just I know he he’s got a little bit of this arrogance about him you know yeah where he’s uh where he just says like oh he’ll get dropped eventually and it’s like

Okay show the GU some respect you gota at least yeah I I thought it was kind of nice to it’s it was sort of like I was kind of like watching it going like yeah Remco welcome welcome to the world as like the a premier Topline favorite like you’re

Like you’re not going to win all the time and in fact like you might even have to get a little creative in how you’re beating these guys and not be complacent like you were and really respect him it’s like a a nice little maybe I felt more that way because it

Was an an American that was like taking it to him um but I sort of felt like it’s it’s like yeah man it’s not not gonna be so easy he dominated so much as a junior that he was always just like whenever I Ride Hard no one’s left on my wheel and

He’s kind of been able to get away with that a little bit in the pros that he never actually learned how to race a bike because he never had to Y and uh and then now it’s like it’s it’s becoming this sort of yeah I like that

He gets put in his place sometimes because I’m a big fan of Evan AOL I don’t want to talk smack about him but he does have this sort of arrogance like okay when I when I’m ready to go no one’s gonna follow me yeah and it’s like

Okay you meet your match every now and then you might actually have to figure out how to win by more of a traditional tactical nuanced way like yeah everyone else in history has had to do um yeah but I like that I like that Mato

Was able to put him in his place like that so Milan s rbo Let’s uh let’s go there I mean that’s one of those races that it’s so hard to predict um you can look at any team there’s probably 20 25 guys that line up at the start with the

Possibility to win um and pogar is definitely high on that list yeah I’d put him as a five star uh if he wants to win he has to go on on the poo but he has to go on the top on that steep section get a gap hold it on The Descent

And then carry that Gap through the vioma and hope that no team strong enough to get organized and even if they are strong enough to get organized usually if you get a gap with pokea you’re not going to see it back so if he get to that

Gap um he can definitely do it I mean we have yasper philipsson who’s also teammates with Matthew Vanderpool philipson just won a stage um and Tano Vanderpool he’s the reigning champ Champion but first race of the year so we’ll see I don’t I mean I don’t

Even use the excuse anymore of the first race of the year because it seems like everyone’s everyone’s firing on all cylinders every time they go um but then behind them you got mahich you got Pitcock you got Geri you and Jonathan Milan he’s he’s a guy who won a few

Stages of Tano adriatico in in a pretty hard race a pretty impressive fashion so um he’ll be he’ll be a got to kind of look for yeah I think Milan for sure but if we’re going to talk about him his teammate mattz Peterson he’s sort of my

Pick uh he’s sort of my I got the star kind of by him I think he was he shown really good form already this year he’s shown high confidence the way his team has rode for him uh coming off two six places the last two years at Milan Sano

I think it could be Peterson’s year if he can stay in that group that undoubtedly Pacha is going to try to blow away um over the top of the Pogo uh and and you know likely it will come down to that I think Milan Sano for me

Is it’s sort of one of the most boring races to watch if you tune in for hour after hour of the early proceedings uh but definitely one of the most exciting thrilling finales those last 20 minutes uh are just edge of the seat stuff and

It it is worth noting it’s going to be I think 40 kilometers shorter this year uh they’re not going to have that traditional start out of Milan um I I don’t think that’s really going to change anything I think some of the Trad traditionalists will be a little sad

That it’s not hitting that 300 kilometer Mark but we know the Riders aren’t going to complain I think you know me as a fan I’m not going to complain you it’s just going to shave 40 minutes or so an hour off the race and we’re still going to

See that brilliant battle uh over the suppressa and ideally the poio and the vioma yeah I mean I guess there is something to tradition I like cycling to hang on to tradition you know the fact that it was almost 300 kilometers that was always kind of cool it was the

Longest Monument but I mean those were all just junk miles if we can be honest like and it’s it’s still long enough that you’re getting that endurance and uh but the length of the races these days these guys they eat so much and it it’s almost like with with as much as

They they take on as fuel it’s it’s almost twice as much as what we did in our day Brent um and so it’s almost like they can do the same power in the last hour that they can do in the first hour and uh so I don’t think it’s going to

Change the race at all I don’t think it would have changed the race to have it 40K longer it’s not going to change to have a 40K shorter it’s going to be all about the Battle and they’re going to be they’re still going to be able to

Produce that that high watts in the end it’s funny you mention the food that’s one thing I remember the most from the one time I did Milan Sano was being at the dinner table the Night Before the Race some of my teammates being Italian and then just kind of

Saying hey rookie pay attention to what we’re doing we’re eating piles and piles of pasta and these dudes remember allisandro Balon ate like four massive face High plates of pasta just I don’t even know where it went just packing it in there and that even in our career

That was the way you did it you you front loaded it now these guys are doing 120 grams of carbohydrates per hour whereas Even in our career we we packed it in before and then it was the joke that don’t crash before the feed Zone because if you dnf before the feed Zone

They got to take you away and like pump your stomach out because you’re going to have so much stuff in you that it’s got nowhere to go um so yeah hopefully uh hopefully some more moderate pre fueling consumption from the guys this year with 40 km less but uh we definitely be

Definitely be an exciting race to tune into and I think yeah again the Highlight is going to be seeing one of our two to France contenders today Pacha how he performs and uh if he can out Fox some of the sprinters and fast men that you know will have that blond sanmo

Circle on their calendar uh so going from Sano then uh actually starts it actually is going to happen before San we got the Volta Catalonia TJ this is a race that uh I think we can both kind of Riff on we’ve both done this race as roommates together you were you were

Always a contender at Volta Catalonia uh it was you know on on sort of some of my home roads living in Jona for most of my career and many of the pelaton very familiar roads living in Andora Jona um I think this year’s Volta Catalonia is very much uh the template Catalonia

Super climbing heavy uh some some high altitude climbs especially for when we’re talking about in the spring season it’s March you know they’re still skiing up in lolina up in Andora TJ said you’re in door right now so maybe you can give us a little bit of a weather report but

What can these guys expect from The Vault to catalunia and uh who are we talking about to be the big favorites there well anytime pojar lines up on the start he’s he’s gonna be a favorite it’s like I don’t I hope it’s not just who’s Racing for second but um you know the

Other names on there we’re gonna have vlassov there we’re going to have enrik Moss there we’re going to have sep cus there we’re bringing Hugh karthy and eston shav for EF hopefully they can have some good rides um in many ways it is a very traditional template catalunia we got

Voler 2000 uh they hit that quite often won by Yours Truly 2014 little humble brag um you have that Porta on I remember racing up that but one stage that’s going to throw a wrench in the whole thing is going to be stage six it’s burga to burga and they do this

Crazy Loop super narrow roads super steep climbs it’s rare that climbs in catalunia get over 10% and this day it’s going to be like honestly it’s going to look similar to the last day of uh of perin only the climbs are steeper

Um it’s it’s G to be it’s G to be a a brutal one I mean it could be one for a breakaway I mean that climb that you see right there that Parell that’s like I think it’s like I can’t remember remember how many kilometers it is but

It’s over 10% and it’s it’s a solid like 7K uh short stage only 154k but you don’t really usually see stages like this in wel to Catalonia Savage no doubt and that that area yeah it’s not it’s not really the big Pyrenees it’s not the the massive

Mountains um it’s not as big of a climb as fer 2000 like you mentioned the pain uh but that the sort of the the preceding pre perod um is a region that is awesome for riding a bike it is beautiful to go up there in a nice weather day and to

Cruise around those super narrow steep twisty mountain roads but that will be Savage and filthy to race especially on stage six and I think you’re right that that sort of is the that sort of is the PIN that’s pulled out of the template of the usual V to Catalonia they usually

Have those two Big Mountain Stage sort of stacked uh right in the middle or the first half and then they sort of sort of just transition back out to the coast I mean this year they’re going they basically do the full lap of Catalonia they get all the way to Barcelona after

Stage five then they’re going to make them get in the buses go all the way back up to burga uh and and definitely deliver a really exciting stage uh I think for sure since we’re on this American Love Fest this role of Americans uh we just had a perise I like

My man sep cous uh I know sep trains around there a lot his wife is from not too far from that area um and I think that’s an awesome awesome stage for him the whole way through Catalonia great profile for him but he for sure uh will

Not be surprised by those roads and uh hopefully he’ll see an awesome uh awesome performance by sep cous after his big win in the Volta last year yeah I I mean I would say him he’s Pro probably the closest Challenger to pojar that I would put on paper at that

Race and that stage six could be a really good opportunity for him like you got to isolate him from his team maybe do some technical stuff I know po doesn’t have a whole lot of weaknesses but if uh if SE cus can take advantage of his strong team um he can maybe try

Something on that stage or if not there you also got the Barcelona stage and that circuit is anything can happen there oh I hated that thing that the the amount of times that I left Barcelona just feeling like I was totally rung out at the end of The Grand Tour and it only

Race for seven days I think it’s a near 100% rate for me finishing the bolt of Catalonia just a brutal way to finish that race that monek circuit um I know you probably liked it more than me TJ I’d usually been out there I think uh

Riding in the wind for you all week and then we get to those circuits and uh I just had to survive and try to get back to those buses and you were up there boxing on with the leaders so um your your memories of that stage are for sure better than

Mine oh no that was uh that was a stage I definitely dreaded the most I mean a climb like vol 2000 that was kind of more in my element some Punchy stuff like that I was a bit more like okay I better hold on and uh and survive and

Keep on my skin but uh but no it was definitely a hard one and it the GC is not over on that day Anything Can Happen um I I mean I think we’ve seen a couple of times where where the GC just kind of flips on its head on that day especially

If you add in Rain cringing to think about it Catalonia there’s no time trial there we’re not actually going to see any big headline time trials for a while but TJ I want to quickly go back to the a good portion of the uh cycling media hype

Show from the past couple weeks these time trial helmets man I cannot tell you the amount of people that I had sending me memes Instagram posts photos asking what’s going on with this is this a joke is this for real um it was kind of the Talk

Of the Town and um like you’re so you’re you’re part of a team and actually EF you guys are you guys are on the Forefront of some of this Cutting Edge aerot technology and even some of the helmets that you I’ve seen you guys use the past couple years had that real wild

Uh head Tosh shoulder sort of aerodynamic move um like what is going on with this uh this TT helmet Revolution and and where when is it going to end where is it going to end how is it going to end is the UCI going

To come in and just say no more of this madness um you there’s definitely some argument there I can see the UCI saying hey a helmet’s designed to protect your head let’s keep it at that but you know the teams are also saying you know we’re

Going to innovate we’re going to push on so I think it also is pretty cool that a team like Vima Lisa bike has gone used their time used their resources in the offseason with their partner jro they’ve developed a helmet that they claim is very fast and uh and yeah it’s an

Advantage so what what what’s happening from the inside of the team car in these team time time trial helmets I don’t know man I mean when I saw these uh these helmets I was like I was like how is that faster I mean yeah I know that we’ve had some of those

Weird looking helmets and this organization’s actually been on the Forefront of some of the uh some of the crazy helmet like the stubby thing you know the helmets they used to have that really long tail at the end uh and we kind of invented that stubby and uh it

Looked kind of ridiculous but now it looks kind of commonplace uh so these might look funny now but it maybe in after a while we’ll get used to it and it like whatever was five years ago is going to look funny but it did get me thinking like what was the coolest era

Of TT helmets I mean you know like pre like pre- crash helmet requirement and TTS when they got to use those head fairings like it was just like super long and thin and just like just molded straight to your head uh didn’t help at all in a crash but those things looked

Cool they were they were dope um and like Lance Armstrong I remember he had that like that that sort of cut off sort of triangle on the back I mean I don’t know why that never caught on because I thought that was the coolest looking helmet and then all of a sudden around

Like 2005 they started requiring crash helmets for TTS and everyone started looking like space balls you know like yeah like those big uh like Lord Helmet on Space Balls I don’t know we’re probably dating ourselves with that movie but uh I don’t know the coolest

Era of TT helmets I don’t know it has to be like back when they got to wear those head fairings and like and everything was just like super smooth and Slick that yeah that that was Sleek I mean riding around on their uh old school bikes with the cables everywhere

And then they yeah had this like Space Age helmet just trailing all the way down Pony tailing down to their tail yeah that that was sweet I mean I gotta say as a as a racer my favorite era was that time when they they were instituting the TT helmet to actually be

Safe which is a lot of our career and no one was really testing to that level yet it was just like yeah oh it’s got a little bit of turbulence deflection behind your head just never mind your position never mind how it fits in your shoulders just put that thing on go like

It was a lot about just riding your bike and doing power and being able to handle the TT bike then it’s it’s blowing my mind now what these teams are going to and the lengths the Riders are going through to perfect uh their positions in their frontal area and uh frankly I mean

As a former Rider it looks miserable I’m my back is just joing that I’m no longer having to go through that but uh but yeah they’re definitely putting on a spectacle for us um and the speeds just keep getting faster and faster so uh who knows what they come up with next can’t

Can’t wait to see the next version of Spaceballs coming to us in the next uh PT we see TJ you got anything else for us ah let’s see uh you know I just wanted to talk a little bit about Wan I Uso um I mean he’s been a I’ve been a

Big fan of his now for a while and the only reason I want to talk about him is because I think we need to lump him into the American category I know that it says Spain next to his name in the results but he has I think an American

Parent I can’t remember if it’s mother or father I spoke with him last year at a race and he uh he speaks American the way you and I speak American with each other he has American and passport uh like grew up in America lived there till

He was like 14 so Juan I don’t know if you’re going to watch this podcast but if you ever want to come join the US team I’ll be directing we could use your services there and I’m a big fan of you and I’m sorry like take the Spain next I

Love Spain too no dis to Spain but we all know that you’re American so come on over to the good side nice dude you’re you’re enlightening me I that’s the uh that’s the next level director inside that I did not know so uh all the American fans

Get put a Wan Uso into that that uh that American big group hug and uh yeah celebrate him too can’t wait to see what else what he can managing this spring campaign speaking of the spring campaign tune in to stage one of the Volta Catalonia live on peacock it it’s going

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