In this episode, DC Rainmaker and DesFit talk about Google Pixel Watch Updates, Skiing Apps for Garmin and Apple, More SPD Power Meters, and other interesting news in the sports tech world.
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0:00 Intro
0:57 Look Power Meter Pedals
23:13 Apple vs Garmin Ski Apps
35:22 Supersapiens Shuts Down
46:32 Google Pixel Watch Updates
52:42 Suunto and UTMB Partnership
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Apple Watch Slopes App vs Garmin (Ray): https://youtu.be/hELwHn8Fjyw?si=VLokpfEULo72hc3C
Apple Watch Slopes App Review (Des): https://youtu.be/rHJL-TnpE0Q?si=Nwkzh8j99Zu2Mpjc
Garmin Ski App Review (Des): https://youtu.be/HFyBB2TuH6c?si=aofq4esGmjTwMgI0
COROS Ski App Review (Des): https://youtu.be/99kucn_veek?si=NB8CCZd29OFINQ_B
Supersapiens Closing Down: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/02/supersapiens-announces-its-shutting-down.html
Look SPD/Keo Blade Power Meter Pedals (Ray – website): https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/03/looks-blade-pedals-power-meter-pedal-hands-on.html
Look SPD/Keo Blade Power Meter Pedal First Look (Ray – YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyUYH-pkOIA
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All right welcome to the fitf podcast where you’re going to hear about anything and everything Sports Tech related whether that’s sports watches bike computers bike trainers train WPS and basically anything that you can use to level up your health Fitness and sports game so Dez of Dez fit on YouTube
As well as myself Ray of DC raker tocom both a site as well as YouTube we cover all sorts of sports technology goodness whether it be action cameras or drones or uh cycling trainers or bike computers watches you name it anything that’s going to kind of touch on Endurance
Sports or just Sports in general from from a sports technology standpoint we’re there to talk about it all right so on this episode we’ve kind of got a grab bag of different things we’re going to talk about so super saion is going under there’s CGM company that’s aimed
For the Endurance Sports Market uh we have more SPD Power meter pedals we’re going to talk about skiing apps on different kinds of watches and how they act Google is also releasing some new updates for their original pixel watch and some other random topics we’re going
To talk about as well so I guess first of all should we just started out like last week’s episode we’re just going to power meter pedals straight thing power meter pedals let’s let’s just do it all right cool so yeah so look has some new power meter pedals both on the road side
As well as the SPD side so go ahead and get us started with these yeah so look look has actually been in the power meter pedal business for a long time in fact arguably as long as anyone else out there um I think it was 2011 they
Announced the first power meter pedal in conjunction with polar uh the The Watch Company um to make polar’s second power meter by the like fun secret fact there po made a chain based power meter like two decades ago um yeah crazy huh things you never knew about yeah a chain-based power
Meter like two decades ago and they went back in it again in 2011 in conjunction with look and uh at the time they had like a really funky install process and you could get it accurate it was an accurate power meter once you got through that install process but it was
Not awesome to get through that install process and it really um lost the main appeal of a pedal-based power meter which was the idea that you can quickly move move it between bikes because this whole process was a mess um so they did that with polar for a while and then
Eventually look started branding it and doing it on their own using the exact same system just without the the polar logos on the side uh and then fast for a number of years until 2018 or so maybe 2019 somewhere in there um they partnered with SRM to basically take
That exact same system and put an SRM branding on it as well and I think there was some some more stuff behind the scenes but at the end of the day it was you know look pedals um and a look power meter system but with SRM branding on it
That was the SRM exact pedals but still the same like it wasn’t quite as bad as it used to be but it was a very like cumbersome process sure um then from there SRM did their own thing for the mountain bike pedal uh this one here uh
The SRM X power pedal and you know that that did not have anything look inside of it and at least uh until recently anyways and so that was like their own thing look then in the meantime went off and decided to make their own power meter pedals um which is two different
Power meter pedals there is both a mountain bike version as well as the road version which I forgot I grab that’s sitting over there but um point is there are two pedals a look uh Kio version for the road and then an SPD uh for the mountain bike side and these are
Totally developed within look themselves and they get rid of that entire funky install process so the install process for these is just as easy as any other pedal you just put it on and be done with it now these are kind of similar to something like the Garmin rally pedals
Right where you can actually interchange the bodies on these correct so that’s that’s like their big I wouldn’t say it’s a thing they’re leaning in on but it’s definitely a big piece of it uh so in the case of the G rallies you have basically three different pedal body options you’ve got
The SPD for off-road usage primarily uh you got the loio side and then you have the Shimano spsl for roadside and you can mix and match where you just basic take the spindle out and you have a different pedal body look is doing the exact same thing where you’ve got the
Spindle inside you can swap a spindle back and forth between uh the roadside and the mountain bike side and and you’re basically paying for the pedal body so you’d pay roughly about 250 300 bucks if you wanted a different pedal body set i’m been always kind of curious
About the feasibility or how many people actually go through that process in terms of different seasons and whatnot I mean it it’s not like it’s a hard process but I feel like at least with the Garmin rallies it’s just cumbersome enough where I wouldn’t really want to
Do the want to do that I think you know it was funny I was talking to uh our friend uh Shane Miller GP llama of the last couple days about this and uh we both it’s one of those things that it’s really tough because it’s an incredible selling point right there’s this fantasy
That you’re going to do this somewhat frequently that you’re going to buy this one set of pedals and like seasonally is you’re like oh I’m going to go in a mountain biking now for the fall or whatever the case is right and you’re going to move it back and forth and you
Might do that once maybe twice and then you’re like no I’m bu I’m going to buy another set of pedals of that yeah right but it’s it’s something that is a huge selling point though for companies it’s a massive selling point um to have that ability and Market that ability even if
Practically speaking very few people do it more than once or twice right it’s sort of like psyching Dynamics right you look at it like once or twice and you’re like that’s that’s I look at my power pedal phase Factor on every single ride what are you talking
About pco2 man um no it’s it’s one of those things that’s really tough um I think it’s not it’s not a tough thing to do it’s one of those things it’s a tough thing to do right that we’re talking about changing pedal bodies it’s a tough
Thing to do right um fast and to do right fast numerous times in a row and so the thing and I talked to garment about this years ago is that you know you have to be you do not want to rush swapping petal body spindles between petal bodies because if you do you’re
Going to break something it’s as simple as that yeah you small piece of dirt in there or something like that yeah it’s not ideal yeah yeah this isn’t like just you know swapping a pedal off a bike you need to go ahead and take the parts off with rubber seals there’s O-rings
Involved all things has to be cleaned you want to do it somewhere that you’re not going to lose a little part sits again so anyways look does the same thing there uh with very similar pricing in terms of pedal bodies uh to swap back and forth as garments uh but their
Overall pricing is slightly below Garmin um so you know their overall pricing for the pedals is uh basically 1,000 bucks $9.99 it’s either Euros or dollars doesn’t matter for the road side and 1,00 bucks for the mountain bike side yeah like we’re going to talk about comparative pricing in just one second
But it is kind of interesting to see that now we’re seeing a lot of actual SPD Power meter pedal options come to the market and um I believe that’s because the SPD patent has run out on both what SPD as well as SPD SL correct
Yep SPD ran out first um I think about two years ago whatever the time was that the SRM pedal came out this basically came out like to the day that the patent ran out right like that’s the they basically they they waited until the patent obviously everyone knows these
Patents are going to run out this isn’t like surprise right you know the exact day it comes out and so uh that that released pretty much like the day after sort of thing yeah uh and then the spds SL side um the patent also ran out I
Think like a year year and a half ago give or take um so that’s why we’re seeing more companies go into that realm uh and you know look in their case they still have the Kio as the road pedal and I actually asked them I said hey you
Know what do you see an appetite for also doing an pdsl pedal body as well like is that’s something you might do on the road side uh given there’s obviously huge demand for you know that that pedal type and they said they had a lot of discussion internally about it in inside
Of look um and it wasn’t like a hard no but they were concerned that from a company standpoint um if they were to release an spds SL pedal that sort of like eats away at the core of their identity being looked as their brand exactly that’s like it’s a look CLE yeah
I mean yeah be kind of like Boeing selling Airbus planes Vice vers right um and I think you know the case of uh the SPD side of it you know that’s that’s a little bit different I think in how how that market uptake has happened right
For the road side there is obviously a huge demand for both of those pedal body standards between not standards as we ter but pedal body platforms right between look and spdl versus on the mountain bike side a a pretty heft towards pretty big half towards SPD yeah and I think what’s
Great uh too is that you know we are seeing uh like four very solid options from companies other than Shimano because I’m not sure if we want to see a Shimano you know make a power meter pedal but anyways [Laughter] looping oh exactly so looping back to
The actual options so so we I feel like we need to have a scoreboard like somewhere in the back here that every time Shimano gets made fun of for the power meter accuracy like it just needs to be like a a checkbox per episode right so we’re not yeah we’re not that
Fancy on the podcast yet where we have the little buttons that do the w w w yeah we’ll get we’ll get there folks we will get there so U but yeah in terms of the four options now so we have fivo look Garmin and SRM and I kind of listed
Them down in terms of price there so foro we have at a astoundingly low $750 and I’m going to be talking about the Dual versus single sided options here so FAO has 750 for the dual-sided 500 for their single look 11100 for the Dual and then 759 for the single and I’m
Specifically talking about the SPD versions by the way the look cleat versions are $100 less Garmin has their rally xes at $1,200 and $700 and then SRM a whopping $1,500 and $1,200 for uh their variant so comparing all those options there so you know look is similar to Garmin pricing there but you
Know really look gar SRM they’re so much higher than FAO at this point so why would someone want to buy this look variant over let’s say the FAO yeah I think um so from a battery standpoint starting their first uh both the look and the FAO are are identical at 60
Claimed hours um and you know real life battery life seems to be trending in that same direction as well versus Garmin is is more at 120 to 150 because they different they use coin cell versus rechargeable um but that’s a whole different topic for a different day look
Sorry then and the SRM side they’re at like 40 to 50ish claimed hours but with a massive asterisk there that they burn between like 3 to 8% per day uh in standby oh so like if you have a week if you have a week where you don’t use this
Pedal it’ll just basically be like halfway dead right assuming it charged it’s it’s not good um so then you get to why would you spend you know why would you spend more on look versus FAO or Garmin versus uh FAO um and I think pedal body swapping is you know the the
Fantasy aside that is a very real reason to potentially do that um the other real reason uh is potentially if you’re doing a lot of jumps so in the case of the FAO pedal it is limited to a category 3 um which means drops of no more than 24 in
Or 61 CM uh on that pedal uh and that’s from a structural electronic standpoint so they’re they’re not does not sound like they’re concerned about the structural Integrity of the pedal like breaking on you but from the electronic spindle inside potentially not doing that and in talking to look s talking to
FAO um they have tested up to cat 3 and so that’s what they’ve that’s what they’re going to claim uh you know say maybe down the road they’ll increase their claim if they test beyond that to the next spec level um and in looks case they don’t have a limit there and that’s
Something that they’re pretty proud of when you talk to them that you know this is focused on their Pro um m m teams they’re going to use this to have drops much bigger than 24 in which is not very much of course um that’s a a fairly
Small drop I it’s interesting to me the look pedals the one selling factor for me is actually the well look of it um it’s it’s a absolutely gorgeous pedal I mean I think that of the uh pedals that you have in front of you there I I don’t
Know like personally I’m not a gigantic fan of how the SRM looks I think it’s it’s very utilitarian but you know on the complete opposite end of the scale though you have that look pedal and it’s it’s absolutely gorgeous and I think the actual Road pedal looks fantastic as
Well yeah no it they both look great and the road pedal so that is one reason on the road side of things uh speaking of the road pedal is that it is the lightest power meter pedal by far like it’s not even close I think it’s what
131 or 135 G per pedal it’s a carbon based Road pedal the their nearest competitors are basically the 150 to 160 range per pedal so I mean dramatically lower um technically the Wahoo Speed play pedal itself is lighter but that’s a a useless technicality because uh with
Speed play cleat design you have to have all all the mounting stuff on that is essentially transferred to your shoe so once you include that you’re like Way Way Beyond everything else so um practically speaking um and even again no matter how you want to Define it
Looks Road pedal is the lightest power meter pedal in the market period um and then the by far asterisk depends on how you want to include the Wahoo stuff but once you include the reality of how the Wahoo mounts then it’s it’s not even the same anymore so uh at this point you
Have put out your look uh first look uh I keep on using that word sorry I missed it you’re right I I think I titled it Hands-On but I should have done first look first look exactly so at this point so you you’ve done your first look Hands-On impression so uh walk us
Through why it wasn’t a full review and when that’s your full review is going to be coming so I was just Runing along oh gosh um I was just riding along yeah as always and so I’ve had I’ve had the pedal for a few months now both myself
And my wife have been putting it through its Paces different iterations we’ve had kind of pre-production stuff and then we’ve had production stuff the last few weeks um and a couple different things popped up um in the case of what my wife and I were doing was like dividing and
Conquering and she was um running with the road pedals and I was running with the SPD um uh you know off-road pedals using both onroad and off-road and you know she had an issue for kind of pretty quickly on the the roads side where basically she got a random zero offset
And zero offset’s a calibration of a power meter pedal and so you’re essentially calibrating two pedals in reality because you have two sides uh and something went wrong where um behind the scenes it told her that it was calibrated in reality one side was not actually calibrated um and so it had
These wrong values and so she was seeing weird offsets and stuff like that and look looked into that um and they found it was a firmware bug and they’ve already addressed that in a firmer update so that’s good box checked but certainly a bit of a concern right this
Close to production uh this close to just shipping but the the real issue came when I I was on my on the road bike side with the SPD pedal so with the mountain bike pedal did some baselining there all was good did some trainer ride stuff all was good switched over the
Mountain bike uh initial testing on the trainer all was good and then I went for uh mountain bike ride this is a final production set again I’ve been using other ones otherwise went out for a mountain bike ride uh and it had rained a lot recently and I went through a
Really big puddle SL small pond thing um Pond I mean it wasn’t quite Lake status we’re not talking ocean right or cuz no no not yet that that would come later no we’re talking ponds here no this is this is this is clean pond water but it’s
Definitely this this thing was now a pond the bike path became a pond you could have taken a small boat across this um I chose to take a bike um and so I I pedal across it it was above the bottom bracket uh I’m sure desle overlay
Some some b-roll for those watching on YouTube which is by the way the best way to watch this uh to listen to this if you if you can and so in doing that um after I got to the end of the pond and this was like a 20 or 30 second Journey
Uh the power cut out but it also cut out for the Quirk that was on the mountain bike as well uh and I troubleshot a little bit and it was like oh okay this I think this may be a connectivity issue given the The Edge units connecting to
These was like I can’t connect anymore what do I do um and uh I kept on retrying on The Quirk and finally it connected back in again like a minute or two later but on the look side it took like 8 to 10 minutes to get it connect
And I’m still putting that tely maybe in the camp of a Garmin problem based on some other stuff that was going on but not really sure either way that was slightly concerning what was more concerning is when it did connect it was offset by like 20 plus Watts like it was
It was immediately displeased and I tried to do zero offsets and calibrations and all the stuff out in the middle of nowhere um and it wasn’t really fixing it but nonetheless I’m like whatever I’m just going to keep on riding so at this point in my ride I
Transited the pond because I was trying to get to the beach and in the Netherlands and in Belgium riding along the beach is like a thing people do it’s like a there’s like races out there with Pro level races where you just you blast along the beach as close to the ocean as
You can but you’re kind of like going in out of the water slightly where the sand is hard packed down there if you try to do it up high it’s just soft you won’t go anywhere like you’re just you’re stuck so I do that it’s a normal thing
To do it’s again a very vibrant Pro scene of doing that and there’s obviously saltwater getting in the bike around the bike and stuff like that CU you’re Crossing you know tital pools that are draining back into the ocean and again here’s some more b-roll for
Those that are watching um to see what that looks like and again it’s still offset this entire time and I couldn’t really see to fix that but just ignored it for an hour and a half or so out on the beach and I started heading back in
Again had to go back across the pond and that time it actually cleared the pond no problems it stay connected everything was good so the next day I’m ready to go back out again and do another ride mountain bike and I start rotting and the numbers are just crazy pants they’re like 4,000
Watts and 2,000 watts and 3,000 watts and as you know de I’m an amazing cyclist I’m like top tier cyclist yeah but I can only do like you know 2,800 to 3,000 Watts on The Daily not not quite the the 4,000 yeah I mean that’s your five minute power average so that’s
Great yeah yeah so I mean I wasn’t you know I I was suspecting things were wrong there uh and then like I’d be easy pedaling at 1,000 Watts I literally be just like moving at 2 miles an hour across the pavement of parking lot like a thousand Watts you guys should see his
Quads I mean yeah and then you’d believe it beastly yeah exactly so on top of that the pedal was showing things like 90% balance on one side like it was it was definitely displeased with life um so I kind of ring up uh a look and I’m
Like hey I’ve I’ve got some there are something going on here I’m not sure what’s going on at this point but uh things are definitely displeased uh we run through a bunch of tests and they uh to say they were concerned would be the understatement of the year they were
Very very concerned so concerned in fact that they put their lead engineer and their lead product manager uh in a car to drive basically overnight from their headquarters in France up to Amsterdam on the weekend um arriving here on Sunday morning to dive into what’s going on and they
Deconstructed the entire pedal sets on this very table right here taking them apart looking into them figureing what’s going on with them uh running a whole bunch of analysis both on the bike before they did that as well as taking it apart and uh you know they did a
Bunch of initial work here at the DCR cave and then they took it back to their headquarters to like really take it apart in like a clean room type environment and what they found when they were here kind of was reconfirmed by what they found when they got back um
Home which was that there was a manufacturing defect in the of the pedal spindle itself actually there’s two manufacturing defects but there was one that there was a basically ribbon cable if you will that was um not in the right place inside that attaches to The Strain gauges
Um and then that combined with a secondary defect on one of the housing let essentially that seawater get into a spot that it should never have gotten into um and so the seaw water actually itself the water is able to get into The Petal body that’s not really a problem
Or a concern but there is then a second protection layer inside the spindle or on the outside of the spindle technically um that keeps the seaw water from getting to the string GAE into this misplaced ribbing cable um so it’s sort of one of those like swiss cheese
Effects where um you know if one fail had happened actually things would have been fine but two failures happening is what took out the pedal um now obviously there they’re deeply concerned about that um mostly probably because it was me that it happened to um but also because the the likelihood that that
Only happened to me is that’s you know on of all the pedal sets they’ve made what’s the chance of that happening um they did check the other pedals I had and they didn’t have that defect but um they’re they’re going back back and trying to figure out what the heck happened like
They know that did not meet their quality you know internal standards but to figure out the scale of that Etc so um anyways basically that’s kind of the long story of why I didn’t do a full review because at this point I need to wait for a final final product to show
Up that I can validate and go out and ride the crap out of some oversized puddles and you know sea water and put it through its Paces um I will say to looks credit I mean obviously you know you don’t want that to happen to to anyone but they certainly don’t want it
To happen to me and they don’t want it to happen for their pedals um but crap happens like as I pointed out in my FAO MX review right I had a set of these set was sent a pre-production set um that was should have been like pretty solid
That was missing the screws on the the pedal body right like literally missing the screws right and they were deeply embarrassed about that as well um and I declared it in my review because I wanted to say hey I believe this is solved right but I I can’t guarantee it I
Mean I I am 100% certain it’s solved now pharoh’s case um but you know things happen um and that’s what the point is with look they have owned that problem start to finish like they you know there was no point to that entire process where they tried to blame me for
Anything they said yep riding to that puddle and they saw I had video of the puddle I had video of the the ocean riding I had video of cleaning the bike afterwards with the hose and like all of those things are well below the threshold they test against um in
Terms of water pressures in terms of they test seawater that’s literally one of their tests is seawater immersion because they know people ride on the beaches that’s a European thing to do um and so uh at no point have they said this is my fault for doing something I
Shouldn’t do um they have owned it end to end as like we’ve done effed up we need to do better all right cool so that’s uh the new look SPD Power meter pedal so we look forward to your final final in-depth a view of that coming soonish hopefully so the the not first
Look look yeah the yeah exactly no the in-depth look yeah so uh so next up let’s yeah so next up let’s so next up let’s talk about really briefly some skiing apps so you were just recently in France right in uh like the shaman area doing some skiing and
You test or you did a comparison between the Apple watch slopes app and garmin’s Native skiing functionality on their watches so I’ve actually done individual reviews of both of these apps over the years but you kind of did a comparison between the two so tell us about what
You liked about each one and what you think may be better on each one yeah so I was skiing uh in the M Blanc Shaman area so that it’s kind of a whole valley of ski resorts um there and I I had for many many years been intending to do a
Like garment ski video of sorts like you know how skiing Works similar what you did you know last year or whatever it was um and every year I like filmed it but never actually like cohesively had a storyline I just filmed a lot of b-roll basically right and uh uh never got
Around to doing it so this time I set at like a timeline of like 48 hours after I get back this needs to be done and published hell or high water but I decided this time to do a comparison between the Garmin side and the Apple watch side and of course the challenge
There is that Apple technically has a ski profile um on the watch but it’s it’s just like a records your heart R yeah that’s all it does yeah it’s it’s a categorization thing it is not a it does not count your ski runs Etc versus what Garmin does counts your ski runs counts
Your laps or Max speeds like all the stats that you want to brag about app I ski or in the lodge it’s doing all that for you you’re vertical for the day Etc so on the Apple watch side a really famous app that people use is slopes and
Slopes is a totally free app uh and frankly almost everything you need in that app is on the free version but but you can also pay 29 bucks a year for what it seems to be like a single developer like a single dude doing this
B I think it’s like right down the road for me he lives in Boulder I think yeah yeah so I’m happy to support the little guy and pay 30 bucks cuz let’s be honest and and the price scheme of skiing like it’s a very good app folks like I mean
Very good app very cool like it’s cool to see sometimes like these Indie developers that’s like one person right that Mak these incredible apps that are so well done yeah especially when they have graphical skills I think that’s the key and he gots to make this all just be like boom
Nailed it so anyways I get out there and I’m basically comparing these two watches actually so epex Pro um versus Apple watch Ultra 2 and the watches actually don’t matter at all here to be honest it’s it’s really the platform uh in the sense that virtually every Garmin
Watch that has an altimeter minus the brand new 4Runner 165 has Kei mode um and every watch on the Apple watch side will work as well just fine because it’s using the slopes app um and so one of the things that you you start you know
Recording here uh is that on the the Garment side you have a ton of customization on the watch itself what you see from a data page and data field standpoint so uh it is you know just like any other sport if you’re familiar with a Garin watch that you can
Customize your data P data Pages your data fields and you know add more data Pages add more data fields you can see the maps on the Garmin watch for the ski resort and you can actually see the the runs and the lifts and things like that
Versus on the Apple watch side with a slop app anyways uh you’re essentially seeing your total stats for the day and then you can attempt to use the digital Crown to go ahead and see the per run stats uh and I say attempt because you you you really can’t cuz you
Got to use the crown and um that’s hard it’s really really hard very hard with gloves on right so imagine in my case I was wearing it between my glove and my coat so I kept the watch on my wrist and I think in a second maybe de will talk
About what happens when you don’t keep it on your wrist and keep it on outside the coat but in my case I had it in the little Gap there which worked great I could see it no problems you know like you just go like this and it opens up
The gap between your glove and your coat um but then if you were try to use digital Crown you got this big old glove and you’re like wiggle wiggle and it doesn’t just doesn’t work it’s as simple as that um on the garbon side of course
You got a lot of buttons so it’s really easy to use those buttons to iterate through the data Pages even with big gloves um and you can do that uh so from a per skiing while I was skiing itself it was fascinating how Incredibly Close the two metrics were like sometimes the
Total descent for the day would be within like four meters for the entire day like talk minding yeah thousands of meters yeah right yeah you’re talking yeah five five 6,000 meters to be within 4 meters you’re like damn and top speeds were often within 0.1 kmers an hour um for two different
Watches on two different wrists you’re like well done however that magic happens good job um so then you get to post skiing stats and that’s where you see the biggest difference so again during skiing I would say Garmin pretty easily wins in terms of like seeing those stats and customization and making
It really easy to go like per run total stats back and forth but post scheming where you want to like be the data analysis geek and look at all your stats the slope app is so damn good it’s so so good um on the Garin side you’re basically get the exact same like
Overall stats you get for a run it’s going to show your runs like for outdoor like running running um it’s going to show your runs though uh downhill runs and your max speed and The Descent and that’s kind of it yeah yeah that’s basically it um versus on the slopes app
It’s insane like the you’re going to get these crazy 3D diagrams you’re going to see all your stats for just not just that day but um for the entire trip you can create trips you can say this trip span this week uh time frames at the ski
Area group all those stats together so you can say oh yeah for this trip so far I’ve had you know 50,000 feet of vertical or 100,000 feet of vertical how does it compare to last year’s trip how does it compare to last year’s season you can get weather built I mean it’s
Like the world is your oyster for so many cool features that you can either use the base side of it or you can like really dig in as deep as you want to it’s it’s super impressive I’m not sure if we we may have skipped over this but
The reason that you actually want one of these dedicated skiing apps is that that uses the altimeter to automatically track your actual ski runs versus your time on the chair lift so it can just automatically track all these stats all day long versus the normal skiing app on
An Apple Watch which literally will just like record your heart rate all day long so you know in terms of skiing you want to know like how many runs you’re taking what’s your max speed on a particular run your max speed for a particular day all that kind of stuff and both the
Slopes app as well as garmin’s native ski app does that and I would also mention that chorus and sunto do have a similar ski functionality to a Garmin watch as as well so uh polar unfortunately it’s pretty much just like the Apple watch native skiing app where
It just kind of Records your heart rate so but in terms of the uh actual skiing experience versus the appay skiing experience again with the Garment implementation it’s just a lot nicer just because you do have those physical buttons where you can actually use those with gloves to be able to iterate
Through those pages with the digital crown on an Apple Watch it’s just really really challenging whether you have gloves or not and this goes back to what Ray was just talking about there a second ago is that for me when I’m skiing I like to have the watch on the
Outside of my jacket so I don’t have to you know roll down my glove or lift up my jacket to see all those stats so even with that uh with the Apple watch or the Garmin watch on top of my jacket it’s still pretty challenging to use that
Crown to iterate through all those stats and what’s kind of nice about the Garmin implementation though is that you actually can have an auto scroll feature too where it can automatically scroll through all your data pages so you can see your current run stats your total
Run stats all that kind of stuff without ever having to even touch the buttons and then one more thing with the Garmin app too is that you do have ski Ms on the actual watch itself now the ski maps are really cool in terms of the actual usefulness of
Them I don’t know what what this is like the pedal body this is just it’s the exact same conversation just swapping pedal bodies right exactly like it sounds amazing in Practical usage it’s just super cumbersome like I feel like the only time you were going to use
Those ski maps in real life is when you were upside down in a tree well somehow like basically and you’re like I don’t know where I am right now I don’t know where I am we’re going to figure this out together right but like in every other scenario whether it’s on a gondola
Or a chift a lot of them have the ski maps on the chli bars now it’s awesome at least Resort so at the top of the LIF you’re just going to use a big map there cuz it’s so much better um and it’s really slow on the especially on the ski
Maps to scroll around to render that like just took forever um so again I I appreciate like Garmin checking the Box uh but I’m I’m not going to use that unless things going really wrong you know and here’s the thing it’s not even checking a box they did for the actual
Idea implementation it’s a fantastic implementation me like they literally have the actual chairlift that you’re on the actual ski run that you’re on they even label the map with like blue black green runs it’s seriously it’s phenomenal implementation again the usefulness of it it’s like eh however
Then we talk about the aay ski experience with the slopes app though versus the Garmin app and like Ray was saying it this is a night and day difference here where the slopes app they they can give you like you know on the actual map that they have there you
Can actually show like all right this is the actual cheer lift I went up this is the actual run I went down this is going to be my per day PRS it’s phenomenal in all fairness though the Garmin app it’s still an app that’s trying to do everything versus the slopes app which
Is a dedicated app so yeah yeah I’d like to see Garmin maybe for next season North American season anyways put a little more emphasis on the on the ski side of it like I like to see them have a focus that maybe they launch in November or October where it’s like hey
We’ve built in more functionality on the skiing side that caters to the skiing stats um I that’d be cool one that’s really cool in the slopes app too that um I think I mentioned in my video is that the way I was skiing there was that
Basically the kids were in ski school in the morning and the adults had like free ski time and in the afternoon we meet up with the kids and go skiing with them so that meant that in the morning we were often skiing at a different ski area in
The grand scheme of the valley and then we would you know take a bus or vehicle back to get back to the where the kids were skiing at a a smaller ski area um that was more suited to them but what’s cool is that I would record both of
Those as separate activ so basically on the the slope side I would you know start that in the morning and then end it just after lunch at one area and then you know 15 minutes of the valley I would do again the same with the kids and it would actually like combine those
Two is one cohesive day each day and show me my entire day like just as one cohesive thing as opposed to like treating them as two different days or whatever the case and you can of course break these out if you want them to and delete portions if you didn’t like that
Or whatever but just just super super cool yeah the final thing that’s worthwhile not though is that you can technically get the best of both worlds here because the slopes app does connect to Garmin Connect so you can use your Garmin watch and actually connect uh
Slopes with it and it pulls in all your ski data it pulls in years I pulled in the last five years of my Garmin ski data into slopes and then like you get the best of everything best of onat performance and best of app break ski
Stuff yeah and I think that’s a good point there that the slopes app although we both did videos on the Apple watch implementation or usage of it the slopes app you can use it just on your actual phone too you don’t even need you don’t
Need a watch at all so for the slopes app again really huge kudos to the developer of this app out there go support him awesome awesome app for not just your Apple watch but your your iPhone actually Android phone or your Garmin world is your oyster on that one
So yeah yeah super cool all right so next up let’s talk about uh going completely off the rails here so complet complely different subject let’s talk about super sapiens shutting down so super sapiens they created a continuous glucose monitor aimed for endurance athletes um so I have never tested one
Of these devices but you have done pretty extensive testing with this one so what’s I guess your experience with it and let’s yeah let’s talk about this news yeah so they came out a couple years ago um I don’t know three four years ago maybe something like that uh
And the idea is that you have this tiny little puck about the size of like a a quarter or a coin of some sort a Euro whatever um and it will basically be injected into your skin as a small needle in the bottom of it they don’t
Like to say needle like they like to say filament but it’s it’s a needle at the end of the day it pokes you and it pokes in your skin and it measures your glucose levels in somewhat real time and then that little pod that you put you
Know typically like on the underside of your um uh of your arm will then stay there for 14 days to the second um so at the end of 14 days that unit expires uh and it’s you throw it away of course continuously glucose monitors are not new to diabetics whove been doing this
For for many many years the neest part here is using it from a sport or an endurance sport in particular uh conon monitoring standpoint and the idea behind it all is that you would monitor your glucose levels and you could see um while you’re doing primarily longer activities realistically 2 hours plus um
And usually at slightly higher intensities uh you can see when a bonk might be upcoming so in other words when you’re going to you know overrun uh the amount of nutrition you have um that you’re you know feeding your body with uh and then try to manage that nutrition
Better um in real time and of course outside of uh training and racing you could also try to manage uh you know nutrition intake as well just I mean even if I drank a coffee you would see this huge spike in my glucose levels about 10 15 minutes later um or if you
Ate a bunch of sugary stuff or whatever the case is and again for a person without diabetes for the most part if you’re eating healthyish right then it it’s all fine but for a person with diabetes they need to monitor this much more closely hence why this has been
Used for a long time so with that backstory there I tried this a few times over the last couple years in one point for like 6 months at a time and I had generally speaking what’s supposed to happen is that while you’re doing a workout you’re supposed to it’ll raise
Your the level that it’s monitoring uh basically from uh up to like 140 to 170ish or so is their goal is a value so they got kind of like a a power number heart rate number whatever you want to call it um it’s a a number that just
Moves along and then while you’re sitting there like if I’m sitting here right now that value might sit around a 100 give or take problem was that when I would go do a workout my value would actually plummet it would go down to like 60 or 70 at best so I had the
Inverse reaction of all the data they had um and you know I kind of say hey what do I do with this I’m going out to work out and the number is plummeting I’m supposed to be up here according to the app because it has these like bars
And stuff where it keeps you in between I said well you’re just one of the people that it does differently and I’m like okay so what does that what does that mean right like that’d be sort of like saying if you went out like imagine from a heart rate standpoint that if you
Know you went did an intense interval and your value instead of you know going up to 160 170 for an intense interval it’d be like 30 right like am I going to die what’s what’s going on um and they said yeah we just don’t have the data to
We don’t they basically at the end of the day they didn’t know what to do about that from like a science standpoint they they said yes it can happen to some people but not everyone so I was always in this pickle from review standpoint because you know if I
Review this I am theoretically the outlier that like it doesn’t work for me so the technology is theoretically super cool but at the end of the day you know they have all these pro athletes that they were highlighting and this and that um and you know they would use it for
Long fueling Etc but it just didn’t work for my body so I was kind of like this pickle this um and you know the other challenge that you have is that um the only way to get around that was I could take a bunch of nutrition in a ton of
Nutrition um and that would spike my values to the 160 to 170 but now I’m essentially getting to a scenario where I’m overfueling everything just to raise the values as opposed to having it providing me useful data about what I’m doing during a workout um and finally the last challenge is that realistically
Speaking this was only valuable for workouts over about 90 minutes give or take and really only steady state workouts with a moderate level of intensity so you couldn’t use it for Interval workouts because it was too variable and that you wouldn’t be a to like flesh out the DAT you needed to so
You combine all that with the price point which was roughly about €60 to €200 a month and I say Euros because they only got um authority to operate within Europe so they did not get FDA approval on the US side uh and what super sapiens was using was the Abbot
Lab sensor so they weren’t actually using their own sensor they using an FDA proof sensor um which was FDA approved but they just how they could leverage it was was not effectively so um you were buying a off-the-shelf abot lab sensor it’s as simple as that you weren’t buying something branded super sapiens
You were buying these sensors from them and here in Europe that wasn’t a problem but you couldn’t do that in the US and they never got the US piece off the ground with that all backstory we get to their announcement this past week um which is that they have ceased
Operations uh essentially and so they’re going to basically wind things down over the next I guess what 60 days I think it was 45 days something like that it was a confusing letter that went out in terms of like like you know confusing would be the understatement I mean one part of
The letter said strategic restructuring and then the other part of the letter said result of disclosure so I think you know the writing is on the wall but basically at this point they have ceased shipping sensors all memberships have been terminated the app will continue functioning for the foreseeable future
But you’ll be able to see historical data for a while there’s not going to be customer support so on so forth so basically I think you know again the writing is on the wall but so there’s so many factors that kind of went into this I think the fact that they were only
Available in the EU the pricing and really what’s the feasibility in terms of the audience for this particular product so it is I think it’s a very good product in Concept in terms of for the endurance athlete making sure that they don’t Bonk but was this really
Targeted for everyone out there that was doing these types of activities or was it just more targeted for or more useful I guess you could say for people with diabetic issues you know I think it’s too soon to tell I I don’t I don’t want
To say they were too early right I think that that might not being incorrect um I think they I’m not sure if the science yet supports really using this for Endurance Sports purposes right I think there are hints that that it could but I think there’s also a lot of hints that
Like me as a a human that it doesn’t work right and that’s how do you mitigate that and maybe it’s simply they need more data to look at someone like me and go oh so for you here’s how you train with this instead another factor that really hurt them was the UCI banned
Their use um so uh they had a full sponsorship of one of the pro teams uh back a couple years ago and like race one of the season um the UCI came along and said nope continuous glucose monitors unless there’s a medical reason are not permitted um and that really
Hurt them from a and they were sponsoring a worldtour team right that’s a a big deal and to not have their athletes use it not be able to Showcase that really hurt them and you know it’s one thing to Showcase a bunch of triathletes doing it but uh you can make
A lot more you know marketing Bang by showcasing you know a world tour team in the tour to France and they couldn’t do that um so I it’ll be interesting to see you know there’s obviously tons of talk about you know when will we finally have non-invasive is glucose modering when
People say nonivasive they mean there’s no needle right and I think you know a needle is something that’s while the needle n out of 10 times never hurt when you injected it it was the sound of this crazy contraption that like You’ inject it and it was like literally sound like
A yeah it was a like sound like someone being shot next to you right like it was super loud the needle itself didn’t hurt nine out of 10 times but like one out of 10 times like You’ be like oh there’s like a weird burning sensation there for
An hour and you just hit the wrong part I don’t know like it wasn’t ideal but there’s a reality to that does scare off a lot of people like there’s no again it doesn’t scare off me and but like my wife the first time she’s like ah it
Took her a while to like to give it a whirl um and then eventually the Curiosity of what it could bring you know got her over that edge but uh she just she too didn’t really see the value in it um in trying it for a month or so
Um but I think if you can get to noninvasive accuracy like so if you can get something that is non-invasive and accurate then I think you can start to collect the data on you potentially tens of thousands of people um you know millions of people and start to develop
And go oh here is the training scenarios it works for and here is the training scenario it doesn’t work for yeah but getting to that non-invasiveness I mean it’s like the the thing that every Apple um media site likes to um you know have a headline news at least like four times
A year you know next version of Apple watch will have you know non-invasive continuous glucose modeling that is so far far away yeah so so so far away um it’s not even close to being the point where you can have rumors on it um despite all these
Companies like to pretend it is it’s not well I mean considering even with this product that is invasive that it’s still not necessarily not even 90% correct for the entire population so um and it’s kind of a bummer it’s kind of a bummer that it wasn’t working correctly for you
Because uh so you know we’ve done a lot of long rides together and this is just like a little bit of inside baseball as Ray would say but like when when when Ray Bonks he bnks really hard so for this type of product for this to work for you this would be
Incredible you know just cuz you know you could actually monitor those levels um what is super interesting though is that you know raid then does refuel quite well and then he has this like I don’t know this like six- hour surge sort of thing where he just like I’m
Back baby you just go you just go absolutely nuts um I always wanted to actually try one of these products myself too so I’m not sure if many people know so I’m more of one of those like intermittent fasting one meal a day type of people so when we go on our
Rides I usually don’t eat anything for like 3 4 hours and I do fine but I think my body’s just used to that uh using fats as a fuel source so I really am fascinated by this type of Technology just CU I kind of want to see what my
Body’s doing so yeah I guess whenever technology does get good enough where it could be uh useful for you and to show what my body’s doing um we would love to test that so that would be cool yeah all right so next up quick little topic that
We can talk about so Google released some update to the original pixel watch so basically these are features that were available on the pixel Watch 2 but they finally have updated the original pixel watch with an auto workout mode where it can detect your activities for running walking elliptical spinning
Outdoor cycling treadmill and Rowing and just like automatically start that on your watch there’s going to be Pace training where you can set up different pace zones and stuff like that as well as heart rate zone training so again these are all features that were already
Available on the pixel Watch 2 that came to the orig original pixel watch but yep so you know talking about Google versus something like apple this seems like it seems like it took a while to get backported to the original pixel watch what are thoughts on that I’m surprised too as well
Because like back in you know October or whatever it was they announced these like there’s other things that was coming to the pixel watch gen one that came really quickly they came within like two weeks and in that case it was funny because even at the launch for the
Pixel Watch 2 they were very hesitant to talk about the time frames for those newly announced things to hit the Gen one pixel watch like they they didn’t want to talk about it at all despite the fact that it showed up literally like 10 days later right it was like why didn’t
You talk about it then because you you clearly were ready for it so I’m not clear on why this took so long I don’t know if like something else came up during development and maybe that’s why they were so hesitant to talk about what things would come right away versus
Eventually um because those things came right away and then this took you know what four months now I guess five months something um a long time so I don’t I don’t understand that um yeah it’ll be interesting to see you know if we compare how apple and how Google have
Handled updates from a Fitness standpoint but even just watch things in general right I mean generally speaking so Apple you know has a new version of watch OS that hits production every September right now anyways um in you know concurrently with the newest launch of whatever the newest Apple watch is
That year every year right and they announc that new watch OS version in June at wwc every year and then over the summer developers get a validate it and consumers as well get a test those new features and then you know by time you hit September then out in production and
Maybe Apple throws a couple other features in there with the new watches as well and then into the fall apple usually has basically two kind of core updates if you will one that kind of floats in the roughly October is early November time frame with some things
That maybe didn’t make it for launch and then one that tries to hit just before Christmas and December with a few more things we’ve seen Apple roll out track mode for example in the past and other other fitnessyoutube until you get to the June beta again for
Um you know wwc and the announcement of the new watch the West version sometimes there’s like some updates that may be like Countrywide so for example we saw that with last year track mode coming to more countries Etc but we see kind of apple pretty much like like a submarine
They run silent Run Deep until you get to the surface again in June um versus Google tends to kind of do these smaller drops throughout the year you know Apple’s big drop is like boom we are here baby um you know each each summer but Google’s kind of like drop drop drop
Every like three-ish or so months give or take so two different strategies um it’ll be inter to see if we’ll see another Google drop this spring that is also for the pixel Watch 2 because this is really focused on Pixel watch one um minus the the public transit directions
On were being not a non-fitness thing MH Google has always fated me because they obviously have a huge portfolio and know a gigantic company I mean Apple’s a gigantic company as well but Apple just seems a lot more organized than Google is where Google they seem like they’re kind of all over
The map and you know with larger companies things take longer to happen just because of just more Hoops to to run through but Google is just like that one company where I’m just like wow it takes you guys like not just longer but quite a bit longer for many things to
Happen so surprised that we haven’t seen them really double down I guess when I I said back in when the pixel Watch 2 came out right it was a very modest it was a minor minor everything um and I’m surprised because I think like the writing has been on the wall when Apple
Especially but there other competitors Samsung too right within the within the Android um you know the were realm Samsung has really double down on Fitness features over the last uh year and a half two years and um I’m really surprised I thought we would see Google be like oh
They’re doing it and O apple and we’re seeing you know kick UPS from garment others like Fitness side I I thought we would see that the were OS side would really like pick up especially given they acquir Fitbit right of all of all things and we just haven’t seen that
Like kick and I wonder if some of that was due to a lot of integration efforts behind the scenes um in getting Google and fibit teams like to become oneish team right I think we talked about this at some point in the past where those
Two teams were not BFFs right for a long time and a lot of animosity between those two teams um both at the lower levels and the upper levels and I think we’re finally seeing them act as vaguely one team as of this past fall we saw
That with a ton of new features and maybe this year we’ll see them like start to drive Fitness features forward that that Mak sense I think this year I would almost call it a make or break here for Google really yeah yeah they really need to first of all you know
Come out with a larger version of the pixel watch and I think just come out with a more congruent story with the pixel watch versus Fitbit and how that all works together so yeah so I’m super eager to see what happens this fall or possibly ear earlier yeah and uh last
Thing exactly let’s talk about sunto for a little bit so couple interesting bits of sunto news that came out so first of all uh they partnered with xiaomi I apologize if I’m not saying that correctly so they me Fitness users can actually utilize the suo app there’s basically some integration between the
Two there and there’s also the sunto UTMB partnership so did you dive into the uh the Mi Fitness sunto integration I haven’t I haven’t actually reviewed a xiaomi device in quite some time so yeah I I can’t really speak to this that well right now so it’s pretty interesting so
What they’ve done is sunto and xiaomi xiaomi um have partnered such that you can if you have a xiaomi watch and you go ahead and you link it to a sunto account using the sunto app you can then use the sunto app as your main app effectively for looking at Fitness
Focused data from those watches any of the watches that pull through so think of in this case sunto becoming the straa to xiaomi right so in other words you can open up the suto app and you can see your workouts you can see your trended
Stuff and all that kind of fun stuff is now there um and it’s really the first time we’ve seen sunto or even polar or G or anyone else for that matter um like OEM out their app for Fitness Watch purposes the closest we’ve seen that is polar with the Sennheiser um earbuds and
Like having integration there but that’s not quite to the same level as this like this is the next level up and I think it makes a lot of sense it allows them to to tap into that market and bring brand awareness um without really cutting into their sales realistically speaking right
Like those I think are not necessarily the same uh groups of consumers that are buying those watches so that’s super interesting just as like a an industry turning point if you will it’s one of those like huh that’s I wonder who else might do that right and we’ve seen polar
Certainly um OEM or you know license out their algorithms right so that’s something that over the last little while um but not necessarily the platform like the actual app itself right the Flow app um yeah and so I I wouldn’t put it past polar I start
Licensing out the Flow app as well I think that would we saw that again with the headphones I think it makes sense for other other entities as well um but then get to the next bit um which is actually we’ll just do like a quick in between one which is that sunto
Announced two new more apps um so vertical and uh uh race walk so basically focused on like more apps that they build into their watch and stuff like that which is cool but I’d still like to see that be just native features in the watch to be honest and not taking
Up app slots um but the last piece is actually probably the more like huh uh news bit which is that sunto has uh their UTMB sponsorship um now so the lead sponsor for UTMB and that’s interesting for so many reasons right um so it’s interesting because this is like
The revolving door of UTMB sponsorships so most recently prior to now it was Wahoo uh with the Wahoo rival watch that was the the UTMB sponsor but of course Wahoo uh announced back in December that they’re effectively exiting the watch business there there will not be a rival
V2 they they made it very clear about that um and you know they’re going to go in some different direction that doesn’t involve them making watches so it didn’t make sense to have the giant Wahoo rival um watch you know thing above the Finish Line as the Finish Line Banner at UTMB
When you would use it well it’s a yeah it’s a the Rival is a triathlon watch and UTMB is yeah trail running and yeah so there’s that yeah there’s that there’s that uh yeah it it it probably didn’t make sense to begin with but uh
It you know it’s it’s it’s there now um it was there anyways but the real kicker here by the way when you go back and like history is that I was doing some digging on this um so like you know what I remember when Garmin launched their
One of the phoenixes they did it a UTMB and I went back to my notes and dug around and yeah when they launched the Phoenix 6 in 2019 yeah they did so at UTMB and while they did not have a giant Phoenix over the the starting line then
Um they did act they were actually listed as the official supplier um for UTMB that year so this is like the bit of a circle full circle thing and when I would go to UTMB not to run it but to I just happen to like go every
Year it was the same week as eurobike and so I would drive through from from Paris to um eurobike which is in uh Germany I would drive uh with a big RV and it go past Shaman it year and just happen to go like through t&b that
Weekend and some years I would sit there and I would just would count watches like I would look at washes on people’s wrists as they were coming in the final area towards the finish line and sunto used to dominate this like this used to
Be like you would it would take a lot to find a Garmin watch on someone’s wrist and then since really you know the Phoenix 5ish and the Phoenix 6 and so on that that tide has turned massively um towards being dominated by Garmin with a
Little bit of choros in there as well um and sunto sunto lost a lot of that um despite sponsoring some big bigname athletes corck up one ofl as and and so it’ll to see if this obviously this isn’t going to like turn the tide overnight but if if sunto can
You know can find a way to make this also Drive sales and I think sunto now to be clear sunto actually has products in place that are again competitive in this Marketplace versus for a few years there there was just it was just a it was no viable reason why you would
Choose some asto’s offerings versus Garmin or even choros but I think they’re finally like turning that that tide there’s even a couple more interesting topics around this whole partnership so I guess going off of what you’re just talking about in terms of uh suunto’s positioning right now again you
Know for all my friends that do a lot of the more ultra running and you know more the trail running Community it’s it’s basically Garmin and Chorus at this point you know sunto they’re name recognition absolutely is better since the vertical and the race for sure and those are extremely important watches so
That’s where having this partnership now with UTMB that’s in my mind I think it’s a smart move for them to get that awareness out there again you know this UTMB it’s not we’re we’re not talking about UTMB the actual race in shamm Block we’re talking about UTMB as a
Global organization now and yeah so the the other part of it is that UT hasn’t been getting amazing press lately either because of their Whistler uh their handling of the Whistler race so basically there was the Whistler Alpine Meadows Race a Gary Robbins event and basically there’s a bunch of drama
Surround this entire thing where you know the Whistler Alpine Meadows Race that went on for years and years on the same weekend and then Gary Robbins at some point basically stopped getting community communication from The Whistler organization UTMB so basically what eventually happened was that UTMB just kind of surprisingly announced the
Race on the exact same weekend that the uh Wham race was supposed to happen without any notice so that uh created quite a bit of drama in the ultra running Community because the Louis little Alpine medows race was just kind of more I don’t want to say a Grassroots
Event but you know you know a more homegrown event and it was kind of basically squashed a bit by the commercialization of UTMB so that’s kind of the other side of this coin where UTMB is not necessarily getting fantastic press either so no they’re they’re not and so this is yeah it’s I
Don’t know if like Su worries as much about that I think there’s also reality too to like I think a lot of the stuff that’s gone on with Whistler and the the drama there is very Canadian US trail running focused right and I think a lot
Of the European side looks at that and is like anyways going on to something else right and it’s like they they know that noise is there but they haven’t like it hasn’t seeped in I think as deeply as it has on the US side um and suto being a
European company is certainly aware of that I’m sure but I’m not sure if they worry about it as much um and I I wonder to like is there a goal for this to increase brand awareness of sunto glob or is it more on the European side cuz
This is of course all their events like you said so it’s across different different races and things like that but uh yeah it’s interesting it was just there’s so many little interesting facets to this uh my only thing here look at the end of the day I really hope
To see a giant sua watch above the Finish Line just like the Wahoo watch like they need to continue that same tradition and the cool part is like in the case of the Wahoo watch if you look at the finish uh picture there um you know they have like just a they’re using
Basically that as a finish finish time the watch itself shows the finishing time at the top there but just like a normal calculator style time right like nothing fancy but if Sun would to use a sun race the world’s are oyster there right because they’ve got a whole AMOLED
Style display so they can do anything within that little like finisher thing graphic wise right and there’s all sort of things they could do there so I’m just asking soon one thing I want to see a watch over the top of the Finish Line you heard it there you heard it there
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Gigantic list here I’m just scrolling through all the things that people have ideas that we’ve been like bueti into different uh potential episodes down the road speaking of that YouTube that is one of many places to uh see or listen to the podcast uh so we are on Spotify
We’re on Apple podcast uh you can also go to the direct audio feed uh at DC ram.com podcast if you want to use some other sort of audio uh listener and then most importantly if you’re watching on YouTube uh the fit file on YouTube and that’s cool there is that you’re both on
YouTube music or we’re both on YouTube music as well as the video side you can go back and forth between uh the audio and the video side if you’re just you know have it off the side listening to us and just kind of going back and forth
Totally yeah cool and yeah if you uh appreciate uh what we do or if you like the content that we do please leave us a review on any of those uh channels and we will see you in the next episode
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Hi. Can you test Samsung Fit3?
Yes ! Give me the fit pod ! I upload my fit file right now too Strava it didn't sync 😢😂
great format! 👌
I realized that this is out right after my 1+ hour tacx ride… :'D