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    00:00 Intro
    0:46 Carabao Cup Final
    7:19 Kelleher Liverpools star man!
    8:46 Will Liverpool do the Quadruple?
    12:14 Manchester United misery against Fulham
    15:17 Should Bruno Fernandes still be captain after this?!
    22:52 Arsenal are scoring goals galore!
    27:36 Should Eddie Howe get sacked as Newcastle manager?
    29:27 Mikel Arteta as a player and a manager!
    35:16 John Stones in his new “free” role!
    44:04 The Relegation battle…
    50:35 Everton and their Points Deduction…
    54:43 The Football Fill-In Quiz!

    Welcome to the football filling everybody today I am joined by former England and Premier League defender Phil jagiela alongside Paul Robinson and Mark goldbridge we dissect that carabal cup final where Jurgen club’s kids gave Chelsea the billionaire Blues we also spoke about Arsenal smacking Newcastle for four and whether Eddie how it should

    Just be a little bit worried just a little bit Manchester United up and down as usual and of course to finish it all the worldclass football filling Quest let’s Go right then Lads welcome to the show um we got a start with the carabal Cup Final yesterday I know we all watched it it was good it was enjoyable um and the biggest quote after the game came from the main man Gary Neville himself saying that KS kids beat Chelsea’s billion

    Dooll bottle jobs is that how you saw it big fil jela unfortunate that was the story today um Liverpool team massively you know missing some massive players probably The Underdogs for once uh just couldn’t couldn’t um get the players fit and the Chelsea players on a little bit

    Of form couldn’t get the job done and the head tight the title itself speaks for itself what was the big thing missing from Chelsea yesterday it’s what it’s been missing all season just like they just can’t find any consistency they play well for five or 10 minutes in

    A game or they they don’t play well um there were some good chances look the goalkeeper made some sun and saves did yeah um in big moments they hit the post so it’s not all doom and gloom but the fact of the matter is is a cup final

    You’ve got to get that goal you got to win and and unfortunately for them they lost in the last couple of minutes do you know I think my big theory on what happened yesterday was that Liverpool had leaders throughout that team really experienced kind of good solid Lads good

    Leaders whereas Chelsea didn’t have too many of them I think Chelsea had got some real quality players lovely but they were all kind of young Lads and I think when that pressure really starts to hit you especially on the pitch on a Wembley on a Sunday afternoon you know

    There’s going to be half a billion odd people watching you I think that just gets in your head a little bit well I think they were used to it I think there was like I said the Spy of the team even though K is obviously a second choice

    He’s played in Cup finals he’s he’s he scored a winning pen the last time you were there and I think it showed it’s a new team Chelsea and not a lot of the Chelsea boys would have experienced that sort of an occasion they’ve been bought for a lot of money but that doesn’t

    Automatically mean you’re ready for those occasions and I’m sure the Chelsea fans will be hoping that this will stand them in good stad for the for the years to come but I’m also pretty sure they were desperate to to win the first TR trophy in a little while well I want to

    Ask all three of you as ex players right so I’m watching the game 10 minutes to go all these kids come on and Chelsea had the momentum and I’m like Liverpool are GNA have to survive extra time and then in extra time Liverpool have got the momentum so if pettino has actually

    Said we’re going for penalties at what point does professionalism of a player go we can beat this lot and they go on the front foot because Chelsea just seemed to me to sit there and let Liverpool attack him and yet we’re all we all know the quality of players that

    They’ve got they should have been more on the front I found that Bonkers I like I heard pochettino say afterwards that he thought that we were in a good moment penalties would have been a good moment for them I thinking what on Earth were you want about here by the way the the

    Average ages of both teams I think Liverpool’s was 24 now Liverpool’s was younger in Stu I thought it wasel waser Chelsea’s was 22 Liverpool’s was 24 and I’m thinking when you’re get to the dying moments of games especially extra time that’s when the pressure really comes on isn’t it that’s

    Where you need your solid heads and there’s no surprise that big Virgil Van djk is the one that scores a winning goal um but yeah I didn’t like it I didn’t like it one little bit that he almost goes right let’s just get to penalties let’s just get to penalties

    That’s that’s not no way to approach it is it surely I think what you’ve got there as well what we got to look at is that kpps he’s created an atmosphere there over the numerous years and he’s a big believer in the kids which is which

    Is great credit to him because it’s a cut final it was good what man what manager sometimes will throw all them kids in at the deep end and go go on then let’s see what you’re all about but he’s got a big trust and belief in them but he’s created that over numerous

    Years whereas you look at poino he’s come to a Chelsea Squad that’s just been put together in a January window hasn’t he where they’ve just thrown ridiculous amounts of money and he probably doesn’t even know his best team but they comment at the end there saying that his players

    Were looking forward to I think that’s just a lame excuse I think you’re professional players like programmed you see all those Liverpool youngsters coming on right do you know what I really loved about every one of them is everyone you could tell Liverpool was in their heart no fear you could no fear

    Well that’s well the same they had no price tag they’re playing some of them were local some of them have been through but they they’ve been training with the first team for for the last two or three months anyway the squad’s been quite thin for Liverpool they’d come on

    The previous game and they’ have felt at home they felt like they deserve to be there and that was a big difference they came on with absolutely nothing to fear greatest moment of your career and made probably Rose made Liverpool rise that extra gear and Chelsea did not know what

    To do with him they must have been thinking wow who’s coming on what’s going on you know like the game’s done and it flipped reversed and it was like Hang on we’re now defending against well Liverpool’s under 21s it was it was like a weird situation and you think to

    Yourself that’s when recruitment becomes really important and I think see what Chelsea have done they’ve bought what they see is the next generational Talent yeah but it’s Chelsea Football Club you’re not you’re not trying to build a squad for five years time yeah you build a squad for now with people that can

    Take you to where you need to be in five years time so the 28- year olds 27 year olds 29y old that they were rumored not to want because they didn’t fit their transfer policy is ludicrous go and buy someone that’s paid 50 500 games in the Premier League games it’s won 12

    Trophies don’t go and buy okay maybe not gone by a 35y old who’s not who’s at the end end of the spectum but there’s a certain element of fit footballers between 28 and 30 that you could have bought that I think would probably have got Chelsea a trophy this season I think

    Chelsea have done all of this transfer business spent all this money and it’s almost like they can still just keep falling back on this excuse of yeah but we’re just a young team we’re just a young team I’m thinking you know that you have to win games though yeah do you

    Know you have that’s the most important thing is winning games and it’s great having a young team and in the future sure they might they might progress and start winning things again but they here and now the reason why they didn’t win that cup final yesterday is because they

    Didn’t have enough experience enough leaders enough people whove been there before that really when the pressure hits go yeah boom I’m going to dig in you ear I think it’s an incredible thing that Liverpool did and you can’t take anything away from it but I think it’s a

    Good point that Chelsea’s just shown their vulnerability there because if that was Man City or Arsenal and he took brought them kids on they don’t win that game they don’t win that game Man City and Arsenal would would take him apart with experience and and and the coach

    They would deal with that I was I thought it was incredible what Liverpool did but I also thought it was incredible that Chelsea capitulated to a team like that and you don’t want to be disrespectful to Liverpool because they were brilliant Chelsea I mean surely in the dressing room and and this morning

    You got to be waking up going what a missed opportunity um talk about the goalie quickly bit goalie love please if we can bit of goalie loves two two s of massive center backs when you’ve got a goalkeeper behind you how how nice is that seeing him making saves and his

    Calmness as well do you know what I mean he’s not the First Choice goalie but whenever he whenever I watch him play I think you’re You’re Made for This mate you’re made I seen an interview beforehand and he was talking about his role and his you know he’s obviously

    Fortunate that Allison’s had couple of injures recently so he’s got to play you know you match sharp your Fitness because sometimes it’s difficult as it’s a hard position on the pitch just to come in from from cold so for him he been fortunate he’s had a little bit of

    A preseason if you like not not disend premier league but a little bit of preseason going into the Cup Final and it shows he came out he smothered the ball he made the save about that’s what it is that’s what Cup Final is it’s not it’s not making a worldy save and then

    And then not communicating not com for a cross he literally had pretty much a perfect game I think he threw one out towards the end when he shouldn’t have done I that was probably the only thing he did wrong he didn’t get man of the

    Match by the way did he I think was it van who got man of the match disgrace mate AB winner I don’t care right he wouldn’t have got no should have come up he should have come up shouldn’t he he should have come up for the header scor

    Scored and then he’ definitely got the match but it helps isn’t a goalkeeper when you got van djk in front of you the captain but he cleared everything up even the balls over the top van djk trusted his goalkeeper was going to be there and he was Keller every time the

    Ball went over a little bit of danger he just snuffed it out and cleared his lines I thought he was excellent uh we’re going to talk about man united a minute Mark um but before we do move on and I know this probably pains you to answer this question are Liverpool going

    To do a quadruple uh and give clock the the send off he deserves this year I’ll let you too hey not I’m not of that still can’t believe you got this on next year um well I don’t know it depends how good the under 16s are is it because he’s

    He’s running out of players that’s going to be the no I don’t think they will and I think it’s about the league isn’t it um I actually think some of the subs he made yesterday was more about like you know he took McAllister off Robertson off and I don’t think he really thought

    That I think he was thinking like games ahead I think he yeah I I I don’t I think if that was a cup if that was a league game against Man City I don’t think he takes Robertson and those people off really you think they he’s

    Got I think I I think that well we’re going to talk about AR arsa so it’s a really good League race at the moment I hope Man City don’t win it and Liverpool don’t win it and Arsenal don’t win it I’ll pick I’ll pick Arsenal are really

    Good at the moment yeah Arsenal are flying at the moment I we’re going to talk about them in a bit but yeah I think like I said it’d be nice when it for klopp to to win everything for his last season and like you said I think

    For the kids as well it’s a great experience for them that he’s he’s showing them belief and what they’re doing so yeah I think yeah if they can win everything just for him it’ be amazing I know that makes you sick to think about that but this is what Jurgen

    Klopp’s done though this is like this is the the power of the man it’s going to be hard now isn’t it the next manager that goes in there now it’s it’s going to be tough but he’s but he has he’s put him in a a position now where whoever

    Does come in has got a great like structure and Foundation hon if I was jaab Alonzo I ain’t taking that job I ain’t doing it but I think this is it’s a nice touy to leave it there a lot of a lot of managers have have done done

    Their legacy got eak all they can out of it gone thank you see you later and it’s like deal with what I’ve left you whereas now I’m not saying Liverpool in the best position theyve ever been in the in in the lives but there someone’s

    Going to get a very good squad yeah but the only bad side of that is all the best living up to what obviously the guy before he’s done but when someone’s done such a good job it’s always going to be a difficult one for the next one do do

    You think um I this the other day actually do you think Liverpool under Club are overachieving like when you think about Man City and you think about you know the money that’s Chelsea got is the new manager’s biggest problem going to be the fact that he has laid a good

    Foundation but I look at Liverpool and you look at the carabal cup I think he’s probably overachieving I don’t think they really should be I I don’t think they’ve got necessarily the the best players of what Man City and maybe even Arsenal maybe but what they have got is

    The mentality of it I think what what rubs off on them so much more is that Jurgen Klo mentality of no we’re just going to keep going we’re going to keep going we’ll give you that intensity and that fight and that’s a bit that is most important bit that bit between your ears

    Well I think even the financial well difference between well if you want to say the top two the top three Liverpool aren’t quite there at the moment they obviously they’ve rebuilt the stadium and they’ll hope to to get some more money back from that but that’s where they potentially are going to fall

    Behind yeah and like you say jurgen’s managed to sort of bridge that Gap with his enthusiasm should we like or his his his General ability of being a good man manager like you say the next person that comes in will have to buy good players but that doesn’t Chelsea bought

    Some good players or whatever but it doesn’t guarantee you getting points scers it’s gonna be a really really tough job when when whoever comes in next no matter how good a coach or manager whatever wants to be called comes in all right um man united Mark

    You I have to come to you mate I have to come to you um this result this this result didn’t surprise me I don’t even know if it surprised you to be honest you were doing the watch along for it how did you see it I I got to be honest

    I think this result uh said to the wife on Saturday night she was going down the pub I said yes and then didn’t really talk and she’s like what’s like you not like this I said I’ve got to be honest this one I’m normally all right I can

    Normally just get on with it I couldn’t I was really pissed off with that I really was um I think it’s because we’d won for and there’d been real unity and I think that team doesn’t have that normally and then Fulham like there were second bottom of the league for for for

    Away wins and they played us off the park and and I just I don’t get that I mean I was asking you when we did the thing for United stand so I’m gonna ask uh these two as well how are you in a team that is winning four games in a row

    Like that and then you turn up at home and I knew from the first five minutes and so many United fans will know this as well they just weren’t up for it they weren’t up for it and and I just don’t get it and and it seems to be a United

    Problem that these players are just so inconsistent and you know no disrespect to Luton or teams down the bottom even the Sheffield United and the Burnley I don’t think they’re not up for it they might just not be good enough for it but United are good enough for it and

    They’re just for where does that come from Rob I think hland was a big Miss yeah I do personally think he was a big Miss CU he’s he’s been recently scoring a lot of goals he’s now hitting a little bit of form of what people are expecting

    To see from him so you take that person out your team now who’s scoring goals the way he presses the way he presses and like you say as a team when that when the front man does the press the whole team then knows where they’re going and I think when you’re taking it

    Out and you and you’re trying to find a solution or an answer to doing it it becomes a little bit more difficult so so man you just at the back though they for me they’re they’re they’re weak I think they’re weak at the back with what they are they’re defensively soft not

    Like the man united teams that we’ve seen over the years where they got that strong that that physical presence about them they just look like a soft touch and for them are good team I think like we showed disrespect to for a little bit sometimes but on their day when they

    Play football they they cause a lot of teams a lot of problems with how they play um man united definitely is’t the kind of Fortress it used to be fil um but what is that like when you’re playing in a game and you know them front men who are supposed to be doing

    That pressing job but you know really they’re not doing that pressing job you know before when you saw the team the way it was going to come because obviously H wasn’t available there was talk about even playing Momin as a as a striker and for me just to work just to

    Work I would have given it see say now I’d have potentially given it a chance yeah he’s he’s a big lad yeah he’ll work his socks off and he he will he will do it not too dissimilar job yeah I’m not you know he’s the top goal score anyway

    Is he was a top goal um and and it would have left everyone else in position do you know the ones that supposedly yeah but when you speak about how excited or how how happy you were that man you had won four games on the spin for me growing up Manchester is

    It’s a little bit embarrassing right Lads I’ve got something to show you um so have you seen this clip yet Bruno Fernandez have a look at this boys definitely injured have a look at this there two proper solid center backs Lads that get up when you’ve been here and

    It’s not the end of the world you just carry on you move on right have a look at this Bruno Fernandez tries to get his shot off pretends that he’s been kicked look at this look at the theatric could have been killed Ben come on look at the

    Theatric but just look after oh he’s in a bad way oh he must he’s in a bad way here oh he’s up he’s up breath wants the ball what on Earth is going on here mate what he going on here not the first time we’ve seen he is it can you imagine but

    You know what though he’s the captain of man united footb that’s what I’m saying you imagine your example the what you’re setting there is that’s embarrassing for me embarrassing it’s embarrassing and like imagine someone like of Roy keing watching that he’s been captain of man united he’d be raging in the dressing

    Room you’d be raging you be what are you doing everybody be ra you’d be raging if it was on your team wouldn’t you but it goes to the whole point of where man you are like so when he came in he he was idolized he was he was probably the best

    Signing that had been made in PR League he won about five player months in the season whatever when he wasn’t Captain when he did his thing I didn’t see that when he came I didn’t see that yeah and then I I don’t know what’s changed over

    The course of the last two years but now he’d be one of the most hated Manu players there and I’m not even just saying divisive divisive yeah and and I’m not talking about away fans I’m talking probably about home fans as well so he’s gone from literally he’s gone

    From like hero to zero his football’s not been as good but his mannerisms and how he’s gone he’s he’s that person you do like to not like you watch it and like you see that you laugh and you’re waiting for those like gifts and all the

    The stuff to come out and I don’t understand what’s going on cuz for me he was amazing when he came he he scored goals assisted did everything and now things have not gone great he’s now turned into a panine villain is is the is the you were a captain weren’t you

    Uhhuh were you a captain yeah is the captain well look you make a good point Harry McGuire is much better without the captaincy this season Rooney I think fell off when he became Captain Bruno fell off as Captain is there something in that is there something about is

    There something about being a captain R ferand said it in interview a few months ago he said he said about the being Captain of Manchester United it’s massive he said the pressure that comes with it is massive and he said now he knows players that have turned it down

    Because they don’t want that pressure I think I think we Captain is obviously is a massive honor and a privilege and it’s sort of like a a well done and it shows your stature at a club but normally you only talk about the captains when things

    Are going bad yeah you never okay every so often you might say great leader and he’s taken you that we speak about van dijke Captain obviously scored the winning goal that that shows an example but normally when a club’s not doing well the captain’s a guy that’s got to

    Go do the the interviews the captain’s a guy that got to get hold of a person who’s not doing the right job so his role on a day-to-day and a on a game to game basis when you’re doing well is pretty simple and smooth but that that

    Spotlight it’s not only a spotlight it’s about 10 spotlights hit you when things start going bad and like I say better players or really good players prefer to just go and deal with their their job and they can still be leaders yeah so they’re still doing the same jobs and

    They’re not hiding on the pitch they just don’t want the added extra of doing that as well that finger point and whatever and when you’ve got a good squad I spoke to you about before but man you where I don’t feel they a team a team would get around these issues

    And even take the mick or say look this can’t happen or whatever but I think I don’t think that’s even been mentioned in the bet you I begly that’s not been spoken you know and not not just because it’s the captain but from any sort of player I just don’t think there’s a

    There’s an element of look like this is this is this is about bad image this is this is not good for us like we need we need to prove we are well man you’re supposed to be better than everyone else not no not not on alsoo run okay that’s

    Where they are at the moment but you’ve got to set those standards and for me the captain can’t I know what type of play is but the captain can’t do that that when you were there you told me that story about you know someone left a

    Bib out yeah and they and it was like gigs and Neville and all that lot United I mean if Bruno is not a captain there’s no there’s not another captain in there so you know you need other leaders as well don’t you otherwise you’re even more isol you know the prime example of

    This for me Liverpool four or five years ago you got Jordan Henderson and you got James Milner yeah them two are captains of Liverpool FC and they run it but you know the beauty of why they are captains and why they’re so effective as well they’re not the most technically gifted

    Players in the world their job is to graft and to grit and to get in between and get in amongst and split and disrupt stuff right so that they can focus on a Saturday afternoon of marshalling people pointing people talking to people making sure standards of rock are like really

    Really high man united have got none of them players have they but on the back of that as well you’ve got people like van dijk’s best defender in the world at this time before he does his knee Trent yeah top assist so these Lads like you say are technically worth more to

    Liverpool than no respect to Millie or or hendo better players Allison but they’re not getting the pressure or the issues let them flourish let them and now now obviously the the guard the changeing the guards happen now they’re the captain and Vice Captain but you can

    See it’s now their role to be well role role model to show how to to put that out on the pitch and and show everyone else so three or four years more time there’s going to be another couple of next captains or next Generation leaders that are going to come through and I’d

    Imagine they’ll do it the right way whereas Manu if if it was Maguire who was Maguire’s Vice Captain before probably Bruno yeah I think it was Bruno Bruno Vice Captain now is probably veran who’s on his way out so I’m saying you’ve not got someone who’s got anything to do with Liverpool Manu

    That have been there that know what Manu want and what they need and what the fans expect whereas it’s like a development it’s almost like the youth team to to to reserves to First Team you’re almost doing that with your leaders slap captains of the future

    Unless you get a captain that comes in from another club if you naturally get a captain that you’ve bought I presume he’ he’ take over yeah but that’s why you have your leadership groups so you look at your you look at your man cities your arsenals now with where they’re going

    And how they’re doing it your liverpools they’ve got a collective group they got together theyve got togetherness they they have their rules and they said it there’s boundaries fellas we don’t cross the boundaries at man united that just looks like there at the moment There’s No Boundaries it’s like you got your

    Rashford’s you got your anony you got your Bruno doing that everyone’s in and it’s it just looks like everyone’s in for their own little thing but they’re not focusing on this is man united this is what we do and there’s there four or five people behind grabbing that and get it together

    And going no this is how we do things at man united there’s not that there at the moment is it I’m sure they probably get on okay I bet bet I bet I’m not saying you going into change room and like I’m refusing to speak to you I won’t see

    Next to you I bet they’re all okay but that’s not what makes a championship challenging team it’s okay is never good enough at that level you it’s not a Band of Brothers but it needs to be when you’re on the pitch you need you need to know roughly what everyone’s going to be

    Doing and everyone’s going to be thinking it’s not oh here we go again he’s been flicked on his ear he’s going to spend next 30 seconds you can visibly see that’s not the case like you watch the game on Saturday you can see it Bruno’s pass and other players going

    Like this you know they’re not in on the same wavelength so you you’ll be right in the dressing room it’s not it’s not what Fulham have got it’s not got F’s got it’s not what Liverpool’s got uh lad this is World Class by the way thank you

    I really appreciate this today this is lovely um right let’s um let’s look at somebody who are a team and they are unified and they are on fire at this minute in time Arsenal um fresh off the back of batter in Newcastle they’ve scored about 50 goals in the last three

    Weeks um must be a good time to be in Arsenal fan M yeah I mean I think we spoke about it a few weeks ago didn’t we they look tired at Christmas and that little break they had well everyone had it and then they got knocked out by

    Liverpool in the cup and I think they’ve got another eight days now so they keep getting these little breaks I know they lost in the Champions League but I think they just went there tactically not to get beat and obviously considered a late goal they’ll be fine but in the Premier

    League uh I mean they were they just there was so much than Newcastle and I looked at newcastle’s lineup and they’ve they’ve got Joel Linton missing I think that’s it most of them are back now and they’re just head and shoulders of of Newcastle and I thought that the way

    They’re playing as well it amazes me some of their fans still question arteta I think what he’s done there over the last three or four years is amazing um what he did with the goalkeeper I know you disagreed with it but it’s worked you know it works with reyer um Ben

    White’s not really a right back is he he works really well there still don’t really have a recognized Striker but he puts HS up there is unbelievable deam rice has just been I mean I don’t for 100 million pounds is there a player out there that’s you know not got any stick

    For being 100 million pounds he’s just he’s just gone in there perfectly I think the only thing about Arsenal that worries me is that if they did lose a rice or a sacka or a celba they really don’t have anything else but at the moment I mean they’re banging a title

    Race absolutely magnificent it’s it literally is just all positives isn’t it yeah when you look at them from the word goal I think against T like Newcastle with what we’re expecting from them with Eddie how they r on the front foot straight away in their faces put them

    Under pressure Newcastle would have gone there just to try and take the sting out the game build their way into it cuz they do they get stronger as the game goes on Newcastle with the quality they’ve got but Arsenal would just at them like literally from the word go and

    They just had no answers Newcastle and what I liked as well is dein rice played higher up with georgino coming so he was more controlling with his sitting position but then Declan I mean he getting shots off could do for England couldn’t we we had a Geo doing that for

    England that’ be lovely that wouldn’t it it’s it just there’s a little tweak isn’t it looks like you’re playing still the same sort of formation but he do the tweaks massive and played against geino and if you let him dictate play he will yeah he won’t give the ball away he

    Literally will lend it we’ll pay it we’ll pass and they just the way Mel’s got his team going he likes to build up a little with the passes so everyone can because they don’t play a normal natural Striker everyone’s all over the place and it just bides time for people to

    Find pockets and or to find award positions on the pitch and it suits it well especially at home you know it’s like a Bowling Green obviously playing playing where did Newcastle go from here then because like I said there’s not many injuries nowadays for Newcastle they haven’t got that as an excuse the

    Momentum the momentum’s gone hasn’t momentum’s gone why did it go though well they’ve had a lot of injuries they’ve had Europe they’ve had they’ve had like a Sidetrack of what so last season it was pure about getting as high up the league as possible qualify for Champions League they’ve had some

    Amazing nights and and to be fair they’ve rling some some garbage decisions in there so and then they get injured and you can almost feel like this just deflated the wind gets taken out of the Sals yeah it’s like and it’s like well we now they know they’re not

    Going to do as well as last year they’re probably not going to be in well not going to be in Champions League they might be able to push for a seventh position or whatever Le nobody wants a seven no come be honest nobody wants the club do because the club wants

    To get in you up the next season but you know it’s coming back two weeks earlier yeah and that’s the last thing they’ve had the longest season ever that would ruin their next season that would Premier League season it would ruin their the only good thing about not

    Having a successful season and staying out the European places because that’s an unsuccessful season is you then should be able to take a nice big breath preseason should be a little bit smoother a little bit easier and then you’ve got no extra games and now you should no excuses for the season going

    Forward but you can’t you can have one off one on one off one on that’s not what a successful Newcastle team needs to look like yeah they need to consistent consistently build on it and find a way do they need a bigger Squad do they need a better Squad possibly but

    Same again they they can’t just go and buy they well they can’t do what Chelsea do cuz that that’s not guaranteed plus I don’t think they’ll be able to do it with ffp or whatever anyway so for them it’s finishing off the season I know say finishing off is still whatever 12 games

    Whatever is left positively looking for next season a couple of additions and I think again they have to then go for well like you say for the the fourth spot you know the ones with Spurs obviously Newcastle you know Manu whatever they’re going to go going to

    Get stronger well AR they that’s got and that’s like you say it’s then the owners with the money they’ve got do they make a change do they we’ve getting rid of EDD hell and look at it that way rename the stadium rename the stadium whatever they want sponsor it 600 mil or

    Something and they got money to bur they can buy whatever they want all right then well my manager ten Hog’s always in the media always getting a load of [ __ ] so why is Eddie how not getting it and should he be under pressure considering he’s lost more games than United you

    Know he’s getting stuffed by Arsenal done a great job there but if Newcastle want to be up there is Eddie how the guy to do it I think for now he is the guy to do it I think he has to be the guy to for for all the reasons what we’ve

    Mentioned basically is I think last year overachieved probably um they’ve got some very good players this year they’ve been very unlucky with injuries injuries have absolutely killed them and and it is it’s hard when when you have that win taken out your Sal to actually pick it

    Back up again and go no Lads come on let’s go but when you’ve got the momentum and you’re winning games and everybody’s fit and you’re nicking games in last minutes it just keeps rolling it’s a Snowball Effect and I think at the minute everything just seems to be

    Going against them and it’s and it’s so hard to pick back up again it’s almost like they need to finish eight this season no European football and then go next year right let’s really trim this squad down to real quality add some more quality and next year attack it properly

    Top four it’s his team isn’t it yeah so I think I think you’d be daed to sack him yeah me too it’s his team his Squad he’s built yeah I also think he’ll need a good season next season I think he’ll probably be backed they we’ll get a few

    Ins and outs but I think the way it looks if they keep hold of him they’ll say look like now’s your time to shine You’ had a great season steady away one if they have a season next year like they’ve had this year I can’t see he

    Gone he’ll be gone or will they like you say now they’ve got all their players back see how they finish the season with the momentum and if it doesn’t go as well as what they’re expecting then when they just go at the end of the season just go you’ve been brilliant for us

    We’re now moving on yeah I think not the market to go for a new manager though is no it’s not not with Liverpool Bayern Barcelona there’s not going to be that many managers out there is there whil we’re talking about managers um Metta you played with M yeah yeah yeah well

    They I can’t believe well you can’t believe because fans are sometimes never happy are they yeah from what he’s done we talked about when obviously arson left a couple of manages have struggled since yeah and even when Mikel came in I think it was a little bit of

    A um sort of a hell Mar from from the board to to give him the job because he’ not had you know experienced it before but what he’s done not only has he got Arsenal to the best finishes they’ve had for a long long time in the Premier

    League but he’s he’s sorted out that Squad and he’s got quite a young Squad he’s he’s gone shopping at a I say he’s not gone shopping at the over 30s he’s bought talent for now and for the future but he’s been very clever in it he’s

    Obviously I say took his time with who he’s got in and he’s generally got rid of the players he didn’t want he’s made some big decisions over his time good captains and stuff he’s got rid of so he’s shown that he’s he’s prepared to do

    You Know The Good the Bad and the Ugly and for me he’s reaping the reaping the rewards and the benefits the only problem for him is there’s two very good other clubs are trying to compete if if they weren’t as good as they were let’s

    Be honest in the last two or three years they’ve been a standout two teams it’s a b like it’s a bit like federa Novak joov and who was the other one yeah Nadal Nadal there you go that’s the one yeah and then my tried to break it but then

    You look at it’s generationally what is what’s the other teams you’re competing with and for for Arsenal I think many other Seasons they would have potentially won a league yeah for sure but these other not even got close to those two because those two were was he

    Always going to be a manager muel I think so he had he had an element of him he obviously C and stuff he was I I use the word selfish but I don’t mean it in a in a bad way he just knew exactly what he needed and what he wanted so there

    Was an extra physio extra sessions sit out of a session and do whatever he knew his body and he knew so he’s very methodical in that way and tactically he was always good he could play right Midfield left Midfield Center mid he knew the RO and and he knew it all and

    Even in sessions when you’d be doing buildup play you you could see him asking questions or nearly asking questions by you know well David Mo was someone you could and speak to in all sorts and and prodding and saying you know little tweaks and that was when he

    Was still playing as a 28 29 30y old obviously went to Arsenal and and and had a good bit from there so you knew his intellect was always there and that’s the way he’s gone to be a manager coach because that’s I wouldn’t say he’s

    Just a manager or I’m sure he does both whereas obviously you sometimes just get people who just manages or whatever but for me he’s he’s done everything Arsenal have needed and probably not got as much recognition for it because they’ve not won well they’ve won fa cou or whatever

    But they theyve not won the B yeah exactly or they’ve only just got back into Champions League football and stuff but I think with what he was dealing with probably two or three managers worth of players some players that didn’t fit into his um thought or his ethos or whatever

    Yeah exactly and I think he’s had a great mentor hasn’t he in pep as well where he’s gone and worked under him at Man City it looks like he’s learning them things now from what he did working under him to the Arsenal team of the way that they press the intent

    Like the football yeah you can see it all and it takes time as well you like what we seeing managers now is we seen managers that are not given time and there’s there’s been like harsh decisions made where oh we need to make a change it’s not working Arsenal got a

    Plan do you remember a few years ago he he had a a Do or Die game against nor they got off to an awful start and they were playing nor and if he had have lost it he was gone yeah the fans had two T-shirts I’ll set her out bunkers in it

    To be honest I I’m not an Arsenal fan but even from day one I could see that they needed to it’s the same with tag it’s probably the same with pettino you’ve got to give some managers time because he went in there like Phil said and he got rid of aubame aubameyang ozul

    Couple of others massive big influence players got Piers Morgan calling you out because he loves aubameyang and you know he’s he’s made big calls they play good football they’ve got a young team they’ve been in two title races um he’s an advert for actually probably given manages time the Arsenal must be also

    Fans must be thinking un emry right yeah he was L given what months weeks or whatever and he’s obviously went back to Spain did fantastic and the job he’s doing at Aston Villa same again but in modern football now it’s not it’s Panic buttons getting hit more like that

    Rather than everyone just leaving it to side and let it roll out because they exactly want it now that’s not always no well it won’t happen it’s not a magic Gene it’s not a magic lamp you can rub and it and it comes off and and they’ve done well and they’re absolutely flying

    And the and they seem to be back backing the players he has his his players are his players and you can see that even the ones I’ve seen him cuddling um El Nani who’s probably played about 20 minutes it’s you know like so it’s just

    You can see the the bonds there he’s on board n’s on board and he’s not playing and that shows you again it’s always easy managing the lads that are playing every game it’s the ones that aren’t yeah are the tough ones because we like when you’re not playing you’re not

    You’re never happy are you well you shouldn’t be but there’s that together that’s that we’re talking about that he’s created that as the manager he’s created them being together you’re not but I’m still going to treat you the same as the ones that are playing I’m

    Going to look after you I’m going to respect you and and they they look like they’ve just got a real togetherness and a and a great chance of possibly winning the league it’s going to be exciting I think like the the end of the season for

    Them is going to be really close and exciting we love this um right we’re going to talk about one of your former teammates Johnny stones and his lovely free rle that he’s got in man city of the minute um before we move on though um Mika would you swap him for tenh

    Today right now if you had the opportunity tenh or M that’s not how you support a team Ben you got to stick with your manager what was if he could bring a couple of mates with him from Arsenal would you he brings Saka CRA and

    Rice let’s I’m can I send some of the other way who would you send the other way trouble yeah stop um Johnny Stones then Phil um first of all take it back to the Everton days yeah obviously a lovely ball playing Central midfielder um Central from good partnership from the

    Best um could you see him going on to be this kind of this almost paying like a CDM kind of he was so s was the the ball playing half that I and and sort of generationally watched someone who was really comfortable wed the ball potentially could play midfield would

    Would would look good on the ball and John was that John was a new version of that was Rio his Idol um possibly barnesley lad I’d imagine there’s not too many other ones that he probably been watching so he would have been and then same again when he came in the

    Issue he had is his defensive part of his brain wasn’t the first thought process yeah it was like the the elegance and all sorts and when you playing especially in the team we played in we were you know we have to grind out games and all sorts so I won’t say strug

    I won’t say struggled but there were certain times when he probably took unnecessary risks risk yeah yeah because it’s different if you’re if you’re if you’re taking risk doing a cry for playing out from the back he may have been super comfortable doing it but the

    People in and around him may not be the exctly so he’s now turned he’s passed a lovely ball he’s done everything right but now he’s passed the ball and that the person he’s passed to is not ready yeah so in a fact in in a way he’s

    Stitched him up yeah he hasn’t yeah but cuz he’s not expecting that’s not our pattern or our shape of way we’re playing now the cental Midfield is sort of not even looking the right way to even receive the ball he gets tackled they going to have a shot on goal JN

    Gets blamed because he’s done the the right thing in his head and going fo but not in the way that we’re playing in that system it’s probably go out wide or maybe go forward to or try and find a Peno on Osman it’s possibly don’t either

    Go back to your keeper don’t go into the holding in field or whatever miss them out and less risk if you like and then fast forward five or six years and put him in that man city system not only the Man City system football evolved as well

    Sure so in most premier league teams he’d be okay but put him in the Premier League team that wants to do that he was fine and then he had he had a Purple Patch and then he and then he went off the ball a little bit couple of injuries

    And then pep decides he wants to try new things and starts playing fullbacks inside as Center midfielders and then when you think you can’t get anything any different now you’ve got a center half sometimes playing right back in a buildup but now ending up as a center mid and then possibly making inverted

    Runs and playing Striker it’s it’s incredible but I really enjoyed it really enjoyed watching John and what I found funny again is normally when I’ve I’ve seen John play that role he sort of plays right side of either two or the right right back and Pops in at

    Bournemouth he played left side which was new so I presume the players that obviously was AK and aeni were going to play either side of Diaz they’ planned out basically that’s the back three and obviously John was given a free roll and he took it to the extremes didn’t he because I looked

    At his touch map and and he’s he’s whipping balls in inside the six yard box so it was it was really enjoyable to watch though uh are you glad you played football in Era where you did and you weren’t asked to do anything like this

    Oh I hate it I could be a right good player now I’d love I’d love to play now a bit more freedom to do that just just because yeah but it’s also trust isn’t it in management with what Pep’s giving John he’s giving him a license but he’s

    Also giving him a trust of going and I believe you can do this so go and show me and it’s like we talk about like the rotation in the final third with the Man City teams they’re actually doing it at the back they they’re rotating at the back and he’s allowing the Defenders

    Isn’t he like to step in leave them free knowing that they can defend like Diaz Aki he believes in them as well going One V one go on I trust you go and defend so he’s allowing like your stones or your aangi to just step in with rodri

    And play from there and then like your fullbacks coming in it’s yeah it’s an amazing style of football to watch and but again it’s I think it’s a trust and a belief in a player to go and do that like you say at Everton if John’s given

    That trust and belief that like they’re going no no no no don’t don’t don’t do that want you to do this not it’s not wasn’t wrong for us yeah and John wasn’t sort of wrong for wanting to do it but sometimes it’s just not at that moment

    In time like I said pep klopp they’ve been at the club where they’re so comfortable and know what they’re doing like Rod we could speak about R his role in Jon’s Freedom’s massive again so he probably play inent half more than than John did yeah you know like filling in

    Or even getting an angle of a pass pass off Edison but John’s role is not free where in our time a free role meant you had the laziest person who had the most ability that was that was a free role so you had people who was way better than

    Anyone else but just couldn’t be bothered running around where John’s free role Now isn’t freezing like he’s got no responsibilities it’s find yourself popping up in the right areas and do the right things he plays a lot of one t One Touch wall passes when he plays in Midfield he doesn’t take loads

    Of touches but that’s all man city does they lend him the ball who’s normally free to then look up what’s going on get it back and then go somewhere else could could this then theoretically work for an England setup alongside Dean rice you haven’t got enough time to put unless

    P’s going to start taking over England and get them in on weekends to practice it’s not it’s something that’s not can we do that can we is g s going to turn around in a big tournament and go John I want you to do what what you do to tell

    Him to do he would know then who you going to play alongside John like who who would be the Cent half in that in that team yeah so you tell me who the center half would be exactly possibly would be I I picked him like so then you’re now isolating Harry and probably

    Not one of his biggest strengths of having the whole pitch to to defend One V one and then who would be the right back I you can’t do it unless you can get unless you can get passports for man City’s defense and change it and ask pep

    To just be on the coaching staff for England you can’t maybe in five or six years time if the game develops again and this becomes more of the norm and now Pep’s probably bring in his Striker to take goal kicks or do something mad by then you know like we’ll have to wait

    And see but it is specifically what peps a couple of other teams are doing the old inverted fullback you know Trent has been doing a little bit for Liverpool and things like that so other other teams are trying different quirky little things but for whatever reason Pep’s found something a little bit more

    Special this is this is the thing for me now is like Gareth got to be looking at our Squad and going you look at foden with what he’s doing now and how informed he is just let them let them show what they can do and and go and do

    It to your nation as well give more freedom you got you got to got to I think even if you don’t play even if you don’t start people we need we should have plans B’s C’s and D’s now yeah and we like plan and I’m not and and one of

    Them can be negative we could be one up and we could be playing 12 Center half I don’t care what but what I’m saying is what’s been leveled at South Gay he’s not really he starts one way might be able to change to a three rather than a

    Four but there’s not much we’ve got that much freedom and creative flare we should play 262 or something at some point because we’ve got that many people interchanging no or no formation it’s basically we need a goal last 15 20 minutes we’ve got can’t be break like 700 Milli with a

    Talent if you look at what’s going forward if you don’t win the Euros and as an England fan you’ll accept that you’ll accept that right okay we’ve lost but we’ve gone for it we’ve had a go whereas when you look at us we just sit off and we go back in defensive criminal

    He’s a defensive manager with so much talent isn’t he that’s the problem I think he’s done a good job it’s always difficult because you can’t knock it can you it’s tough because I’ve always said like internationally you can try and pick for but sometime you do need like

    If someone’s not been playing great for the for the the um normal team and then come internationally but they’ve had the best chemistry ever especially in defense or whatever Midfield sometimes you’ll go with it because it’s going to work two players that are brilliant for their team separately aren’t naturally

    Or always going to play together well they both might vacate the Box they both might come in deep you know you’ve got to look at what works and that’s the hardest thing but I think going forward you can probably throw that away a little bit more and say we can be a

    Little bit more off the CU you know you can play Kane rashford and someone else up front you could play one hold in Midfield and can play foden greish whoever you want you know like like Bellingham anywhere and basically play Four Defenders and then let everyone

    Else go on do what you want but if that’s what the game needs because you’re playing against a team that has had one shot on Target and scored yeah you know it’s definitely if you’re playing against maybe a team that’s you know maybe you wouldn’t want to do it

    Against Brazil but end the day if you obviously not you always want play right again world class Lads thank you so we’re going to talk about the relegation fight in the minute do you know what I feel though I worry that there’s David Louise is somewhere in Brazil thinking I

    Was just ahead of my time I was just five years ahead of my time put me in the Premier League now for Manet and I’ll be able to pop it for fun is what he’ do um right Burnley Sheffield United one of your ex teams um the relegation

    Fight it’s um it’s looking pretty nailed on that it’s going to be um them two teams that are going to be going down um Mark I just want to I want to get your uh opinion on um Vinnie company and where he’s got it wrong this season

    Basically well I’m amazed he’s still in a job and it’s not nice to say people need to but I just think Burnley are not Sheffield United or Luton in the sense that they don’t have a premier league pedigree like they were a bit of a team

    That would probably look to try and stay up and then build from that um Burnley only had one season out D kept him up for years and obviously company did fantastically well in the championship but he’s done terribly in the Premier League that they don’t score goals they’ve they’ve lost more games than

    They had when they were relegated so I’m I’m confused as to why Burnley are just constantly we don’t want to change it we don’t want to change it which in one way is good but I look at it and I go well it doesn’t work what he’s trying to do

    Doesn’t work he hasn’t got the players to do it and actually luten have sort of found a way out and you’re only I mean Burnley are only 10 points away from being in a bit of a fight and I think you know they’re not getting any points

    They’re losing every week so if they changed it around Christmas and brought in a coach that maybe could get them more tight at the back Nick a couple of goals you might graft a couple of results out so I’m surprised they haven’t changed it I presume they go

    Down they play the same football again and they have a go in a couple of years because back up yeah but I I find it really weird it’s the fact that he’s never under any pressure I don’t know whether he’s because it’s Vincent company at xman City doesn’t really seem

    To get any pressure on him you look what happened with the Sheffield United coach he was he they got rid of him by Christmas didn’t they but they just I’d actually say at the moment I’d predict Sheffield United to win a game more than Burnley which says a lot about Burnley

    And and and this big they came we spoke about them at the start of the season they were meant to be a team that we thought Oh mid-table They’ll they’ll adapt really well and it’s been a completely not of failure it’s baffling um Robo if you were if you were a senior

    Player in that Burnley defense and you’re getting pummeled week in week out does it come a point where you’re going to have to say to not only the manager but the other players around you Lads come on let’s let’s just keep it simple today yeah nothing silly we ain’t trying

    To overplay we ain’t trying to be expansive because we’re getting battered we’re getting overrun and we’re losing week in week out we’re the ones that are getting made to look like a bunch of ponkers basically yeah is that a conversation that you you’d have to have eventually I think privately you’ve got

    Of conversations with the way that the team’s playing at the moment but they are they’re making silly mistakes I mean even when you look at the red card at the weekend it’s it’s a strange ball into the Midfield player that’s not even expecting the ball so you’re on the back

    Foot straight away now down to 10 you’re way at Palace new manager in charge they’re going to come at us we’ve got to deal with it and for me I think like you say it’s it’s a style of football the manager wants to play and you don’t

    Question the manager you try and get on with it you try and help as a captain you’re trying to encourage players to do the right things um again Burnley are not attracting the players that are going to maybe keep them in the Premier League because they’re competing against

    Top top teams every week yeah it’s like Mark Sayan when you’re talking about your Luton and your Sheffield United they find a way of getting points Burnley at the moment they’re not finding ways they’re they’re making silly errors and they’re playing an open style of football which the manager

    Wants that doesn’t suit maybe the players that are playing in that team so it’s hard I think is like you say if you’re captain in that team it’s you’re trying to stay as POS as you can but you’re also it’s hard work that isn’t it yeah it’s hard work but you’re also your

    Confidence is getting knocked week in week out because you are conceding City goals and you are in a team that’s losing all the time it’s very difficult um as a former chefer United player field what’s it like watching them this season it’s been tough I think we we

    Knew it was going to be tough we they sold the two sander BGE and ol and D got got transferred in the summer and it’s always difficult you can always buy players for certain amounts of money but until you can buy trusted proven Premier League players that you know you know

    What you’re going to get you have to sort of dip your toe in the market of hopefully they’ll be okay and as soon as you start going hopefully it’s it’s difficult and and like I say they can’t attract the people they’d want to and you’re trying to build and it’s momentum

    Premier League especially when you’re coming up as a promoted team or someone that’s expected to be down there it’s momentum either way you get on that momentum where you’re winning games brilliant you you’ll Nick the the 90 minute win you do the other ones where

    You get on that when you can’t you just you can’t see it every pass goes AR straight at the wrong time the goalkeeper drops one it goes through his legs the defender tries to cry Falls it just seems to happen that way with with shefu that’s been the season all season

    They changed the manager they sort of knew it was going to come but it’s it’s a point again so shefu and Burnley are possibly going to be well probably going to be relegating yeah 10 eight games to go pretty much guaranteed or whatever so it’s how they decide what they’re going

    To do for next season and it’s all about gaining momentum then for next season if you go down and everyone hates the club doesn’t want to come in or you you’re losing 10 n every week but by the time you come back preseason you’re probably going to get relegated again the exactly

    So you now have to find a way to sort of pretend the relegation not really happened and build for next season I think that’s probably what burnley’s motto is is well if we stick to how we’re going to play even though most people will say it’s wrong and this

    Should have adjusted it some way this will work next season and it’s crazy cuz you’re still in this season yeah but you’re probably not going to be able to affect this season so you now know that you’ve got 16 18 of these players are going to stay next season and play for

    You in the championship and he will back himself that that team will do something very similar to what the team did last season I don’t think it’s the right way of doing it but that can be the only way so if they s company or whatever now and

    Get someone else in with new philosophies they’re going to have to get a new team again complete restart and then company’s proved that he can win the championship so he’s got he’s got that as a as a proven record he’s not proven to any of us yet that he can

    Manage in the Premier League but it seems like that’s doesn’t really seem to matter for the for the burning situation as for chefu they they obviously they got rid of hecky and and and put Chris back in charge and they’ll want something similar they’ll want to see

    Something between now and end of the season hopefully enough wins to stay in the Premier League it’s probably not going to happen but if not they want to see the desire and the drive that when they start next season they expect them never to be out of the top six yeah um

    And who’s going to be going down with them Lads I want a I want a little prediction from all of you so what’s happening with these ffp things nobody knows nobody knows nobody knows Everton could get hit but again Forest could get hit should get hit will get hit probably

    Um so we’re talking Luton Everton forest and possibly possibly brenford probably they’ll have enough but who do you think is going to be going down with them Rober um I think I’d say Luton yeah yeah I think I say Lon even though the amount of problems Everton have had with

    Obviously their points deduction and possibly another one I just still think they’ve got that fighting it depends on the points that they’re given us it but at the moment with their fighting Spirit and the squad that they’ve got Evert and I think they just have enough yeah over

    Luton Mark Forest yeah I agree I knew it because you know they’re going to get points you know they’re going to get points taken they’re they’re going to get points deducted I think and also Luton were really I’ve seen Luton play against all the big teams at home and

    They are good like Ros they in a game aren they they’re always in a game um Gibbs white could keep Forest up he’s a fantastic player but yeah I think I think Forest might go yeah so anyone of in everon I don’t really care to be fa but

    It’s gonna be difficult if there is point deductions or points being given back or blah blah blah that will ultimately play I think will will be the difference will be the one so if if everon get more points taken off him or if they get some back they’re more taken

    Off and Forest gets some taken off him if that happens Forest are massively in the mixer and how how how does that Squad react to that yeah sure at the moment it’s okay playing knowing that if you lose one you’re still outside but when you either start inside or yeah or

    You play that team or you kick off two hours later and you know that ever have won or two hours later and H Luton have won it’s it’s totally different exactly so as exciting as the title um obviously race will be if the points deduction

    Comes into here this is going to be one hell I horrible I mean Everton did brilliantly with it didn’t they and they got it at right time but apparently they might be get four back now I heard last week but ever yeah might be getting four

    Back but it’s harsh on any team to get a 10-point deduction at this time isn’t it I don’t I don’t understand how the deduction can be given if if it’s going to be taken back I don’t I can’t I it must have been a really really big decision to give the

    Deduction yeah they must be sure what I’m saying is it’s literally 100% it’s not I tell you what we’ll do it because we’re 80% sure and yeah if and if they don’t really come back to us we we’ve done it and same again if that’s the case um Forest openly

    Signed half of the world in two transfer Windows they they would have been okay they just didn’t go under the radar they basically just put a big Spotlight themselves to basically please come investigate us because we’ve signed this many players haven’t they so that’s why they’re probably in in trouble but it’s

    It’s interesting and that’s credit to D though isn’t it with a job that he’s done like he did at Burnley at Everton because a lot of teams when they get a point deduction they go what’s an excuse excuse and they got it early doors they got early doors but but like you say

    It’s you get that and you get hit you’re like as a team you’re like oh for God’s sake here we go but like he motivates he gets the team rallied and you look at the Players there they got a great togetherness and they’ve got the points

    Back and now they’re in a real good position they could get another fall back again like you’re saying but when you look at Forest at the weekend against Villa they just look we same again Everton have struggled in the Premier League recently take 10 points

    Off every one of their last two or three seasons yeah and they’re on like 20 20 OD points so it’s not like it’s a team that’s been getting 40 50 60 points in the Premier League and you’re taking 10 points off you’re taking up probably like nearly a third of the points they

    They’ve amassed over the CLE or probably a quarter if I was you know it’s not like not 10% of the points not getting 100 points a season so that’s why it makes such a big difference and that’s why I was Bamboozled it was 10 points if You’ have said three five four initially

    You’d have been like okay I understand that you’ve got to make a decision that there’s got to be a punishment but 10 points to a team that’s been struggling is it’s normally it’s normally game over yeah well if you go into Administration you get nine points so basically if a

    Club can’t run properly you get nine points should have done I’m say yeah but it doesn’t it doesn’t make any any sense but don’t make sense um right quiz you ready ulot yeah oh dear what’s your football we’ll soon See right quiz time uh you might have noticed Jamie is not on the sofa today it’s because we’ve got four guests so he’s behind the camera we we get the little question pop up at the bottom uh Jags as this is your first time we are breaking your quiz virginity um

    Basically it’s fastest finger first Jam’s going to ask a question 10 questions if you get there first you get the point sweet enough did you get any points ducted for the wrong answer no brilliant so I can jump in only got one chance you only got one chance if I

    Don’t know I can just ruin it for the rest of you know um or give you time we work as a team no you’re not allowed to say if you say the wrong answer that’s it you out the question let’s go Jay you ready yeah he really likes quiz good s

    He’s going to ban me if I well he really likes quizzes and don’t beat him on top of the league I’m fine question one apart from the English what is the nationality with the most players represented in the Premier League so far Spanish no French no what oh we’re not

    Doing British are we like no no no that’s fine that’s fine Portuguese no I was going to say that are we all back in has not said anything I haven’t five I’m just looking at Chelsea called four country three Brazilian correct boom uh Brazilian Brazil Brazil

    Have got 34 players uh France with 27 and Republic of Ireland with 25 didn’t know that do you know any history no this season this season oh I’d have known it was Brazil then question two nil nil nil nil who was the manager of Luton before Rob

    Edwards oh yeah got it of course it is Nathan Jones Nathan Jones yes correct like still N N N I wasn’t even listed because you hey focus on the [ __ ] questions that’s not my problem I don’t mind it Rob you got answer right but you’re getting no point minus I completely forgot I’m

    Sorry right School update one one nil nil well done question three which efl club are known as the tractor boys J just give me one I can sit back and relax though who’s not got one answer I get nervous us at the time so still n nil n

    Nil question four it’s a who am I question just wait until I finish and then you got a guest to player I have played over 500 games in the Premier League but never won the league I ended my career at LA Galaxy and I’ve also won

    Roy Robie Robie Rob Kan he said Roy like so be quiet now trying toar again cuz I said wait till the end so he’s out he’s out still on he’s still on nil so it’s not Robbie Keane no I have played over 500 games in the Premier

    League but never won the league I ended my career at LA Galaxy and have also won the Scottish Premiership as a manager Scottish Premier League stepen Gerard correct yes yes he’s better than you f me you’re in trouble I was going through them all I was thinking I still

    I still wouldn’t have got that that’s good good that one yeah one one 2 nil who’s on nil Ben question five can you name one of the four teams with the most defeats in the Premier League season cheff United Dar 29 come on Derby would have been a

    Good one was Derby there Derby would have been there Derby Sunland and I switch towns 299 29 out 30 yeah stanky question six career path question I have played for n n marel bordeau loone Juventus Chelsea Valencia I play for Nance Marse bordeau loone uh Juventus Chelsea and Valencia

    And I’ll give you a clue they have also won the World Cup as a player and a desps I thought it was desps yes why’ you get a clue for we didn’t want a that’s my ER I got a bit pressured by time we came over and pointed at my

    Thing so 2 two one1 did the shs darn it the water carrier wow that’s what Canon AR him can say what he want means bit boring would he question seven Oliver glasner is set to become the second Austrian to manage in the Premier League has R hasn’t come on come on there

    Austrian german yes he is manag in Austria I was going to say good day mate that’s what I was looking answer the wrong is hasood that’s not Austrian that’s German how many questions is there by the way there’s 10 questions okay what we on the moment 2 4 six seven questions

    Done got three left um what’s scores on the board 222 one 222 one no I’m on minus question eight which former walles midfielder is a is the record signing for a championship team is the correct answer Jags said [ __ ] first name someone said brez said rben

    Nez if you yeah to be fair if you took it because you got the full title but no we don’t first first W thanks there go 322 one the Newbie the guest is winers this is unheard of get put on the leader board question nine who was the first

    Player ever to be set off in a Champions League final Layman correct Yen Layman really 2005 really really good after 20 I I would not have got that I was asked a question about the other day who um who got bought off um I was doing the W game

    Today that’s why I got that face it’s amazing all it happens isn’t it who who was brought off to bring armun on which player oh is it hry no um senderos no was itzz pz they’ won that final as well does Ben no Ben doesn’t get a point for

    That does he I should get it’s the last question for take to tie bre we take to TI I know come on Robo stop stop Ben from winning final question at what club were Ashley Cole and Francisco totty teammates why you do R there ashleyy Youngy young and toy what did you say

    Whaty play for wford was Elton J up top was top he’s a very very good player for I thought he said as young so so I won the quiz W won the quiz won with four points on the lead that was a bad quiz this week Jay bad quiz bad quiz this week

    Didn’t enjoy that I really enjoy the starts of the quiz when got got Min Point points that knocked your confidence out there didn’t it even the second one the next question he’s L focused I’m sorry I’m sorry um there you go um Phil well done mate thank you

    Thank you on his maiden voyage on the football fill and he goes and wins the quiz and you take home a prize of um well done okay stop on the leg thanks cheers that’s a football filling thank you for watching we’ll see you next Week

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    1. 34:48 dude’s logic is lost… you support the team by giving them the biggest source of support, a good manager. So yeah, that IS how you support the team, it’s painfully obvious Man Utd have an actor out of his depth still suck in the media headlights. He’s just coping until the axe comes.

    2. Never seen Phil Jagielka in interviews or shows like this before, only his bangers from the premier league videos, but he has always struck me as a nice guy.
      And bloody hell he is. Really hope you bring him back, what a player and what a guy he is, really enjoyed it 🤘

    3. This episode was world class. Insight, bit of banter without going crazy, and honesty throughout. Legit one of the best sports podcast episodes of all time. Congratulations. Everyone should listen to this.

    4. OMG!!! I never thought I’d see the day when Ben foster put on a Liverpool shirt, we’ve had so many great match weeks and he’s always put on another teams jersey (thought it was cos he’s a Man U fan which is fairs). So happy to see you in that shirt Ben (looks good on you).

    5. Great points made about Man U. They keep switching coaches when the problem is they have no leader in the dressing room or on the field. Is there even anyone like Roy Keane out there that can whip them into shape? I can think of very few and they are all spoken for and will not come to Man U while they are like this or at the end of their career.

    6. Southgate is one of the worst managers in the history of the game having that much talent (both youth and older) and getting the results and playing the football he has is a absolute disgrace

    7. Is it better for Burnley to play Kompany’s way, go down and have a cohesive system that will bring them back up, young players getting better and learning. Or hire a Dyche type who gets them to maybe win a few games 1-0 and stay up and then be a forever relegation favourite every year?? Not sure what id prefer as a Burnley fan but I would say the team will be better long term keeping it the same. I think their owners have decided this already

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