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    In Germany, Bayern Munich lose 3 in a row as they fall to Bochum. They drop 8 points behind leaders Bayer Leverkusen. What is happening to Harry Kane? And what will happen to Thomas Tuchel if 3 losses become 4?

    In Italy, Napoli make another managerial switch ahead of their Champions League clash with Barcelona. A third manager in one season, following their first Serie A title in 30 years, but has this season been one of their worst?

    Elsewhere, excitement builds for Inter v Atletico in the Champions League, and the forthcoming Europa and Conference League action. Plus Mbappe’s next adventure, Gattuso leaves Marseille and the fastest goal in Austrian Bundesliga history.

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    00:26 Moments of the weekend
    10:12 Napoli
    15:46 Bayern Munich
    19:44 More Bundesliga
    23:06 Leverkusen’s unbeaten run
    24:26 La Liga
    31:26 Ligue 1
    34:10 Upcoming European games
    38:10 Serie A
    43:01 A-League
    45:00 More Ligue 1
    48:00 Will Mbappe go to Real Madrid?
    50:01 Final comments
    54:02 Outro

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    Hello listener Monday 19th of February and it’s tot football show with James H Cara hello James alv Romeo Rafael horstein hello and Julian La W we’re all together today yes look at this lovely together forever that’s that’s nice J I should say at this point that rappers already warned us that he’s

    Got multiple moments of the week of course unusual he’s got them stacked up ready to drop let’s just go straight to rapper’s moment of the week part one uh I think um it’s rosock Hamburg oh yeah not so much for what happened during the game the little cars

    By The Cars Cars Two toy cars with mounted smoke bombs yep driving around the box and Keystone Cops Steward trying to kick them off the pitch fing Miser rubly running behind him car’s driving away from him he keeps running it’s all very so I’ve got a question about very sweet

    You you when you go in you get searched right when you go to any football stadium so how did the cars get in they drove right in through the parking loto s it’s a very reasonable question I mean I guess somebody must have won really wi trousers I don’t know I don’t

    Know but the Ultras so for example in Italy the Ultras have kind of C blanch to bring equipment in for their choreography and stuff is it the same thing no this cuz this was not a choreography this was a protest sure but they bring stuff in under the guise of

    And then they still searched even the ult yeah anyway this is all for those who haven’t been following the story that closely this is all in a protest against the League’s deal with CVC it used to be CVC or Blackstone but Blackstone has withdrawn from the

    Process and cvd who CBC who also Mark CBD yeah sorry has been on the CBD clearly CBC who also marked Li and La Liga so they’ be essentially buying a share in the revenue from the future centralized marketing right and the fans are very against it and now there’s a groundwell of

    Opinion uh even among some of the clubs saying we should have a revote uh the original vote wasn’t really valid because Hanover 96 Martin King the CEO he didn’t tell anyone how he voted but he’d been instructed by the club to vote one way which is no and there’s a strong

    Indication that he voted yes uh and his was potentially the one vote that made the difference because he needed a two3 majority of 24 votes they got exactly 24 votes uh but it’s all a little bit up in the air and yeah protests will continue extraordinary following cdii yeah reject in this are

    They La didn’t reject it but four clubs did reject it Madrid Barcelona oo and attic we we took all the money we took it’s a terrible deal for us but we took the money but that’s why you were the biggest Spenders in January yeah so

    What was the deal that you that LE got Jo it’s a terrible deal because the the Germany one and I think the Spanish one is on limited time right it’s for 10 years or 20 years Germany it’s limited and you can only spend the money like a

    15 or 10% off it on signings the rest has to be on digitalization of your Club the ground all these things so the revenue from selling off essentially mortgaging the future TV revenues for the league yeah they can only use clubs can only use a portion of that for sigs

    For us is unlimited time so they will take money on all the TV rides unlimited yeah in exchange of uh 1 billion which if you think about iton yeah which you think about it is actually not much especially compared to the other two deals all right what happens in the case of Barcelona

    Who’ve done their own private deal to effectively sell off the bar Barcelona didn’t want to sign the CBC thing because they thought that individually they could get a better deal with someone else that was it atletic club and Real Madrid didn’t want it because part of the money you have to spend it

    In the ground Real Madrid what’s going to atletic CL has a new ground built in 2015 so they show no need on that and don’t ask me about because I’m not too sure about that but they also opposed to get that money all right and James CIA

    Well they were in advanced talks weren’t they and then there was this Clause put in which was an anti- Super League clause which kind of made it problematic for some of the clubs who at the same time were negotiating a European Super League so it all went tits up there you

    Go there you go and in Germany they’re battling hard and it looks like making Headway the fans I mean they they see Blackstone um withdrawing from the process as as a victory for the protest it’s not so clear whether they were really motivated by that or whether they

    S f other stuff in the due diligence that they didn’t like or you know weren’t happy with but yeah um there is definitely a change in sentiment at the moment that they will not just be able to wave this through and hope that people will forget about it every every

    Weekend protests have become more pronounced and at the weekend there was um almost every single ground so long delays tennis balls toy planes toy cars all sorts of stuff you ask why toy cars I see in your face that question is because the fans put up a banner saying we won’t be

    Remote controlled nice nice nice and this kind of continent wide move to rummage for cash wherever it can be F sell off whatever can be sold off is essentially because of the power of the Premier League clubs trying to compete with that also UTV R are going down

    Everywhere even in England so you’d have to find another way of finding money and this is I think that’s why CVC so an opportunity to just put that contract on the table and who wanted it could take it I see it’s for the bunes Le it’s less about the Premier League because they

    Have no Illusions about catching up with them but it’s staying competitive Visa V the other leagues who some of some of whom have investors who can pump money in the Bunda doesn’t have have with some exceptions really investors who who can bankroll you and

    Also can um make up for some of the co losses that are still hurting some of the big clubs so they thought this would be a palatable compromise if you will because you’re not selling off anything you’re just taking money in advance of income uh of TV rights and there’s no real

    Downside apart from 8% that you have to give back but yeah fans are fans are opposed because they feel it’s another step towards commercialization and will lead to pressure on kickoff times locations you know super league in Saudi Arabia all these sorts of places that they are very opposed to so we’ll see

    How this goes if you want to read more there’s an article out tomorrow morning on theathletic.com very nice all right I’m sure we’re going to be hearing more from Germany very shortly Rafa but let’s get a quick round of other of the weekend before that jwes my moment of

    The weekend is on Saturday James in stasbor where the laal striker Mohamed bomba scores again for the fourth game in a row his first four League Young games which is the first player to die in 50 years mbapp didn’t do it Messi didn’t do it Neymar didn’t do it

    Ibrahimovic didn’t do it but muhamad bomba did it La Bomba exactly they signed him in January from volser wsbg in Austria for 5 million EUR yes he played in Israel before uh and volberg who really doing a lovely job Iden ID identifying those you should not really

    Call him vburger okay either volb or vburger because vburger is the the genitive nice volb a person from wolburg the club from wolburg okay like w yes yes wolburg is okay sorry yeah I should have known that but but yeah they bought him for 200k sold him for 5 million to

    Lauron who really needed a striker and they did and for the first time in 50 years laon I’m not saying that stupid I’m not saying that stupid Australian Club ever again anyway so he was giving them credit as well great job at Talent IDE but I is is he the business this guy

    Yeah he looked he looked really good he’s 22 years old so I think there’s a lot of room for improvement but wow scoring in his first four leag games first time in 50 years what day quite a short fuse the player I’m going to talk about is a

    Genitive um in himself ra the Tomas go of a theme emerging rdt must be one of the most self-confident men on Earth but he hav scored for 26 or 27 La Liga games in a row and he scored his first goal in La Liga for Rano against Real Madrid and

    That is for me the moment of the week because he needed this goal and he’s the U most expensive ever signing R Bano did they did it last season it hasn’t quite work until now but hopefully you know R Tomas can help Rano stay in La Li know

    That Rano also has a new manager yeah and with his first game gets the point at against Real Madrid against Real Madrid amazing why do you say he’s one of the most self-confident men in the world because you have to look at him speaking about himself the way he

    Celebrates the goal the way I mean he likes himself a lot he’s in front of a lot of time as well also he posted once a picture in Instagram of his own flat house and K his ini written on the wall as well arvt as well so he likes himself

    A lot but he’s a very good footballer so I’m really happy that he’s scoring finally excellent excellent James well I I wonder if I should carry on this genitive theme please and talk about Napoli who are captained by javanni dorenzo um because Napoli they drew the weekend against

    Genua stoppage time equalizer from seral inong Victor ozman was in the stands back from the African Cup of Nations but not CAU up and the result was bad enough that arel Delores the napola is gonna get rid of valta matadi ahead of the Barcelona game and really really well yeah that’s

    About is that the the news that’s breaking out what’s going down yeah wow if they can do a deal said that maybe it was going to depend on next next weekend and that they had spalet former Vice standing by oh yeah the Barcelona game but no I mean Delores has left a hotel

    Where he’s been engaged in talks he has been uh talking to the Slovakian fa as to whether they can job share with a guy called Kona which is the most I think NE neolit what’s next on the menu okay right nice so he was with spetti in

    Sp’s first year in charge at anapol before that he was number to well one of the assistants to marito Sadi as well so I think this is something that napol and Barcelona have in common I think it’s one of those things who can caretaker and with

    Kona he will job share so he will stay on as coach of Slovakia who qualifi for the European championships so he’s not going to leave that job and then obviously at the end of the season if things go well he’ll coach the national team at the euros and this buys delente

    Sometime to appoint a permanent manager bigger name better name than Rudy Garcia F matadi but it does seem like he’s a underminer coach again because remember in the September International break all the rumors came out about him talking to Antonio Conte which left Rudy Garcia high and dry

    Immediately after the general draw yeah these reports leak out that he’s considering changing matadi and again matadi takes training today on Monday last training session is just wild um and this is the work around which I just think this has become one of the worst managed Seasons they’ve got stuff in

    Common with Barcelona Barcelona win the league then really disappoint pointing The Following Season Barcelona seemed to only appoint managers who’ve got some tenuous link to Barcelona now Deen is doing the same with Napoli it’s like matadi I remember him 10 years ago he coached his team Kona he used to be

    Assistant to SAR to spetti let’s do this um it’s an I think it’s an incredible dereliction of their season really when you think of they get this Champions League draw against the Barcelona side which probably one of the I’m not going to say worse Barcelona side in a long

    Time but one that’s in difficulty you can say that I think and and yet they’ve they should be in a position to qualify from this tie and yet they’re not they’re they’re a team that if I’m chavy I’m looking at and thinking wow they are in a worse State than we are

    Right now brilliant we have an opportunity to go through right good Lord okay well they’re not the only Club but looking at their third manager of the season of course cuz Mar they can have guso if they want now back have him back yeah he’s coached them before yeah

    So uh well look forward to getting some more details on both of those stories the M sa business a little bit later on but we’re going to begin with FC Bayern oh yep the sweet sounds of Christoff Beerman then live in the studio as he celebrates Bam’s extraordinary 3-2 win

    Over hapless Bundesliga whipping boys FC Bayern this weekend Rafa so a week ago we were talking about they got beaten 3-0 by Bay Leverkusen and that was embarrassing but it could happen you Byer had great but then a couple of days after that they went to Lazio and got

    Beaten by them one nil no shots on Target and you think well surely not when they’re going to be facing a team from the bottom half of the Bundesliga table bham this weekend but they lose 32 uper Mako with his second straight red card where are we at now Raph don’t call

    Me Shirley but yeah um where we at now we are I don’t know if there’s a a more Extreme color than Co extreme situation in code red code red there it was already bad going into this game a lot of people thought this is going to be

    To’s last stand right um I think they decided having sounded out a few people that they want to finish the season at all cost with Thomas and therefore he’ll still be on the bench on Saturday against lizik oh which is another huge game now and yeah I mean it’s really hard to see

    This game and trying to understand what what what the problem is with Bay they started really well again took the lead again cuz even against lusen they started well yeah but this time they’re really good I mean they took the lead they were dominating they had a second

    Chance Harry Kane blasted the ball over could have laid it off for Thomas Miller for an easy finish for the 2-0 then the protests interrupt the game there were tennis balls and uh no no more thrown by the BAM supporters who helped their team because when they came back after that lengthy

    Break it was as if somebody had turned B’s lights out um they made stupid mistakes they con it from a corner they con it from a counterattacking situation where they were all over the place and then you had this Bine thing where it takes them not just a few minutes but

    Like entire halves or 30 minutes before they get going again after a setback it’s like there’s no backbone there’s no cohesion there’s no resilience and then only at the very end when matis Tel comes on and Brian Saragosa comes on there’s a bit of momentum there’s a bit

    Of impetus and they keep going and they very nearly maybe get a draw right um but Thomas to felt they deserved not to get beaten I’m not sure because the lows of this buying team there are some Highs but the lows are so low that hand it’s just not not tolerable if

    You’re buying player or if you’re B supporter or or somebody in the on the boardroom level to see Bayern play this badly even if it’s only in spells points at massive massive issues right he said it was TCO said it was Murphy’s Law everything went against

    But when you put it in the context of the other results the the series of results now things are pointing in one very clear Direction a week ago we were asking about whether the team was maybe not on his side anymore there were clear indications of that on the weekend with

    Players arguing with members of his coaching staff yosua kimy yeah him and Sh luru sh luru at PSG was really popular in the dressing room and I think at Chelsea as well uh exchanging some words kimh was shy taken off after upam had been sent off again um second time

    In 5 days this time second yellow again giving away penalty those things don’t make it easier for Bayern but still there is they’re so far away from that kind of dominance and self-confidence that we’ve seen from this team over the last 15 years or so give or take that

    Um it’s hard it’s hard not to point at toas T because you can maybe say individual players are not turning up and you know where the lead is but if every single player kind playing below their usual standard by quite a distance how’s Harry Kane playing midst all of

    This badly badly unfortunately I mean he scored a goal but it was the easiest goal ever just to tap in and then the two chances and the first one we talked about uh but the second one slightly harder one he missed and he missed that big chance

    That the olympico and his overall game has really suffered he used to be totally unfaced but what happened around him he’d pick up the ball Play Beautiful passes score goals and he now also looks like a player who’s who’s lost his way you see what T said as well about how

    Good he’s at training and then in game which was seems to be more directed at the team as in we don’t give him service enough in the games but also he standed a little bit maybe a digger Kane saying that you can’t you don’t have the same level in

    Gamees and you have a training and really the one that matters the most is the game is not so much scoring and training I don’t think he was really having a go at Kane but to has repeatedly said there’s a massive difference of what we’re doing in

    Training and what happens on the pitch now you can read that two ways a you can say okay this is just part of the bind mystery why can’t they perform why they low on confidence they’re bu Munich they there’s something wrong here or you could say this is to saying I’m

    Preparing them really well they’re great in training but then in the on the pitch they can’t do what I’m telling them so there’s a bit little bit of both um I think TL actually managed to deal with the situation pretty well came across as very calm um quite collected spoke about

    The issues that you know when against Bayan but again his body language was not was not ideal not as bad as it was in Rome because he was hiding behind snoot this time okay but for team loan confidence I think to look at a manager who doesn’t seem to be that energized and

    That optimistic about his team’s chances I think it’s it’s not a great combination at the moment so the club want to make it to the end of the season with him if they lose to leig next weekend I think it’s going to be really difficult I mean four defeats in the row

    For Bayern I read the other day that hasn’t happened since traton but I’m not not sure if that that number is correct but he’s still available um the reason why he’s been cut such slack is a because they don’t want to necessarily do another nugget mon where they fire somebody in March uh

    Just ahead of a key Champion seag game hoping for an upswing that never really arrives B there isn’t that readymade savior um not even hansy flick they’re not sure they’re not sure about hzi um he left not on the greatest terms with some people in the club of course he had a

    Big Fallout with s hamtic but there were other people in the club who were disappointed by him um also you know if you want an interim coach you want somebody who people associate with success who will immediately kind of lift everyone and the memory that people have of hzi

    And a lot of Bayern players being involved there in the national team was of bad results only in September right so any other former German National Team managers who were jurgen’s not available former ones no yeah I was Yim I guess no I was being really really what’s Yankers

    Doing these days y pankis has cut physically cut the cord of his telephone okay don’t think he has a mobile no not seriously didn’t he but he doesn’t wants to be left alone okay and not the right one more time with his dogs right shape

    Right shape to uh to do this kind of job okay well there’s talk of sidan is there don’t think it’s going anywhere to be honest language is a problem um there’s Mourinho no Sur but chab Alonzo they have to try chabby yeah chabby is the one they really want wait till the end

    Of the season or get him now to really stuff up bio that would be a hell of a move I mean but but is that feasible no no of course not but they they try really hard for the summer anyway lusen continued their extraordinary unbeat and

    Run 32 games now without defeat in all competitions which as it happens equals the record per Pi Fe who continued their excellent domestic season Friday with a tuna winever Heracles oh herac yeah oh okay hey Wednesday we touched on Napoli Barcelona and which team’s in more trouble

    The whether matar makes it to that game or not there’s a lot of questions about how how much longer Javi is going to be in the uh in in the managerial position for the Catalan this quote from ja La Porter saying javi’s only still in in

    His job because he’s Javi but is that serious Jimbo that there is no seriousness about that I mean if you keep Savi just because he’s a legend if you’re saying that is because you don’t believe on him and if you don’t believe in him why you keep him I mean he

    Mandatory for age it doesn’t seem like a vote of great confidence no no not at all I I think that John La that’s what I was asking I think John LA with this words he was even sentencing Savi even more I I didn’t like to hear that

    Because a football club and I know that Savi has been a legend but Ronald Kuman was a legend as well of Barcelona because he won the first European Cup for them even though J is making remarks here body language and and J laporta didn’t have the same patience with

    Ronald Kuman at all and he let or he kept him whole summer waiting waiting and waiting because the rumors said that laa was looking for a manager but then he couldn’t find a manager and Ronald kumman stayed until October when he was sacked that summer Ronald Kuman had a

    Really rough time and Jan laporta didn’t treat him well and he wasn’t contact him Ronald Kuman enough however with Savi he’s having you know a lot of cordiality and he’s behaving very well with King which is fine but if you don’t believe in your manager and your keeping him

    Just because he’s a legend that’s not a good message and the players know that this manager is going to leave anyway okay they had a win at the weekend against Rafa benites and selta Vigo both these teams have good performances still in them we’ve seen flashes I think from

    From both of them Napoli with a draw Jenner at the weekend against Jen rather but the prospect of oen and kavad gelia together again for the first time this year does that breathe any hope into Napoli fans well I mean at the end of the game on Saturday matad was casting out on

    Whether oim men would play um yeah I I think he he wasn’t venting but he was very much like I’ve never had this player available he was injured when I got the job he then got himself sent off goes to afcon comes back he’s injured so I don’t know

    Whether he’s going to be fit or not um catelia is having to deal with second season two or three players doubling up on him all the time playing a star football that you know is nominally identifiable with what spetti was doing but clearly very different um and I think what has done for

    Matadi um is that there’ve been seven games in which this team that scored more than a 100 goals last year has failed to score under his management which is incredible because even when you remove oim man last year the guy who scored the goal that was for many people

    Simp iic of them winning the league was raspadori scored it against Juventus away in April uh Simone for example in the Champions League last year would score and score and score um they had yeah lots of lots of Alternatives that took the load off a strike it they’re just

    Not scoring and it’s very surprising and to see them have to fight tooth and nail to get a equalizer in stoppage time against the team that got promoted last year at home it’s not it’s not great no and U I really cannot tell you who is in a worst moment right now

    Because napoi of course they are eighth or ninth in Ser Barcelona is still in Champions League positions but the regression and the involution of Barcelona has been really big as well and saabi thinks and this is something that makes me think that maybe he’s a little bit either delusional or he really wants

    To send the message that he’s doing a good job despite all the circumstances but the other day day he said that according to Big Data Barcelona is the the best team in La Liga in terms of chances created in terms of everything in general the numbers he’s got so

    There’s the alternative table which is based on XG yeah for and against have them top of so had they taken all the chances and defended on all the chances against them they would be top of the leag indeed indeed yeah but at the same time you you can see that the team loses

    The structor very quickly they don’t have a lot of spirit you know so really the Champions League winners normally they are not like that and I I have the feeling that on Wednesday simultaneously there will be a probably Champions League Contender playing football at drao Arsenal I’m talking about and we

    Will see the difference Arenal chy brought up these numbers in Naples they probably be told yeah if my grandmother had Wheels she would have been a bike yeah if my grandfather had three balls he’d be a pinball machine yeah and many very quick word on Porto Arsenal then at the

    Draal last time the Gunners reached the quarterfinals was way back in the 2009 10 season as age ago who did they beat on the way why Porto yeah the last since that trip to Dubai jimo in the last five games in the league they scored 21 goals

    For five wins they never scored so many in a stretch of five Premier League games in their history um so it’s the fluidity everything even a bit of depth as well in their squad because Kio stepped in harest is doing wellar especially to gab is still injured there still a few

    Injuries but it’s it’s looking really good you have to say in terms of momentum as well and confidence for them so okay but here here in the United Kingdom for example if especially in London if someone Londoner says okay Arsenal is a championship candidate and it happens to be an Arsenal fan they

    Will have a dig at that person because you know how it goes you know it’s football ban and all that but this is coming from a foreigner like me I’m from bilau I I couldn’t care less are you know I think you’re a Londoner now name

    Al but I tell you I think that objectively alv I I I honestly I honestly tell you from the perspective of a person who lives in London and watches a lot of Premier League there is no reason to write off Arenal as a championship candidate no reason to

    Write of Arsenal no really B words from they they are they are tremendously powerful energetic and I think that they’ve got many things to be you know aside aside from Manchester City and Real Madrid to me they are the favorit win it favorit I really think I mean I I

    Agree with you I think they’ve got a balance as well as momentum which we’ll see them do well in this competition um I would you know you know what I’m going to say inter don’t forget inter well that’s what he want to say basically so City Real Madrid inter and then maybe Arsenal

    Yeah it’s going to be fascinating to see what happens Tuesday and Wednesday and then we can you know have a chat about those things next week but I I don’t want to I don’t want to lose too much time because I also want to mention what’s gonna take place on Thursday with

    The second legs of the extraordinary Europa League and Europa conference League playoffs these 32 teams scrapping to make the cut to reach the last 16 the prestigious last 16 of the Europa League and Europa conference League it’s where it’s at well I mean we we did a goal show

    Based around 16 games last Thursday I think it was more enjoyable than the Champions League C it was there was something about it well shakon game Mar was fantastic and it’s so nice of you to mention that game because of course the Shak do will be taking that two2 draw to

    The V Drome on Thursday where they won’t be seeing janara gatuso on the mar bench because Monday has he called the B job the napol job yeah he was psyched on Monday morning after yet another defeat we breast on Sunday night late in that game um they haven’t won in nine now

    He’s only won five in the five five League games in the five month that he’s been at the club which is’s not enough five wins five defeats six draws in six 16 lean games it’s not enough he arrived and they were five points behind the top three they nine points behind the top

    Three it’s just not happening and I think he’s not the only one to blame they’ve had injuries some of the recruitment in January which we mentioned I think on Thursday on the show but the striker that they signed from B glimp uh mub he never heard of

    Him until he walk through the door and it’s just like I you know I think there was a lot of things happening at the club around that that he struggled with that was not his not his fault but eventually you would always be judged on your result and his results hav been

    Good enough who’s going to be their third manager of the Season then uh drum roll can we have a drum roll remember the AAR Coast manager head coach who got pyed halfway through afcon Jean r g would be the really former Blanc assistant former PG assistant coach former Ivory Coast uh

    Legend yeah I’m not sure L the groundwork for them yeah exactly you know uh so bad that he was sacked halfway through competion which I don’t think we’ve ever seen before I mean was left before the world before the World Cup started halfway through a World Cup

    A Euros afcon whatever you want CA America I don’t think we’ve ever seen it but that’s that’s his reward the M job for six well six it’s a six-month deal but it’s really until the end of the season so and his assistant will be J pron pron means spring in French nice

    Which I think is quite accurate to get contract between March and June when you name spring will he give them a spring in their step right yeah is he related to the shopping Department the department store department store in in Paris if if you were what is he related

    To the no you’re right it’s a different the Gen yes so well that’s exciting I mean we talk about Kona and even mazari to some extent could have been surprising I mean G was just nobody had that coming nobody could see it coming if you’re a m fan

    Right now and they’re quite vocal on social media you don’t want yeah you don’t want to be a m fan right now with like that but I hope he does well for him okay well first job I guess will be this uh return leg again 22 from the game in Hamburg also coming

    Up on Thursday a lot of delicately poised games Roma fire at the olympico that game finished 1-1 there in Rotterdam Roma stepping up again this weekend with Daniel de roia 3-0 win over fren early they good the kid from on defend I don’t know you prounce yeah tell us about his Run for

    The first well after making three mistakes uh and and the great thing is like he had a a bad performance Hoon sauce yeah so so hoison in January was supposed to join he broke his duck he dipped into sorry anyway oh my God he was supposed to join froon on loan right in

    January along with their three other Juventus youth players um but he turned them down in order to go to Roma so every time he touched the ball on Sunday night he was whistled and he made mistakes and then he goes on this incredible run scored a goal like this before for Juventus on

    The 23s dribbles from um yeah just inside the fro only opens up his foot finds the far corner and and then yeah shushes the crowd as well gets booked so it shows like real character um but Theos after the game was like we were shocking in the first

    Half absolutely awful because K Jor for example had three one of those things where a guy has three shots at goal in succession in the same action and finds a way to miss the target each time um and so Roman got lucky but then they played well Lukaku was taken off

    Interestingly uh as moon what a guy love it for player he gave this incredible postmatch interview where he was speaking in English to like these uh Two Italians so there was this guy who’s a presenter for his own called marar ruso and then his D Mulin who used to play in

    Fio and uh he just says uh I’ve never got to to the privilege to be interviewed by two such beautiful people before nice it’s amazing um Mery so yeah love as Moon okay going to go out and buy his jersey now um especially that especially the one he was wearing on Saturday that’s

    That kit great like Milan one by the way the Milan kit again we talked about it together that special one so Roma three nil winners at the weekend but one-1 with fard third season in a row they faced them fard had a 1 nil win in the a de against

    Valvic at the weekend Milan will be wearing one of their sexy jerseys as they traveled to Ren jwes Milan 3-0 up from the first leg but beaten 42 in an extraordinary match it was amazing amazing I mean I know J going about Ren yeah yeah I mean Ren won again only PSD

    Ren only PSD have W more games since the turn of the year they are on a rooll I mean the tie is over let’s be honest the they can’t be Milan for Milan 3-0 at halfway through a no not this time I don’t think I I

    Just don’t think as good as they have been at times yes we saw the difference was too big in the first I would love I would love an early goal and kind of a comeback because if there’s one club that could crumble with a three 3-0

    Score line in Europe I still I mean beyond the jokes it’s PSG Milan Yeah well yeah but I mean like larun and and larun is is is I think the most compar terrible to this one it’s two legs yeah but I think their history with lcar

    Already maybe played a part with Le I don’t know but I think it would play a part now yeah a better team than right now I think Milan would distinguish themselves on winning the Champions League seven times rather than crumbling in a way that they’re Kini the mind is a curious

    Thing it attaches itself to yeah so this weekend did you want to say more about Ren no just Mar scored two goals it was they they played really really well they are they are a good team and I think were disappointed by themselves after the first leg because they were beat

    They were well beaten by Rafa L was great and to as well all of that but I don’t think they show themselves in the way they they should have because they’re much better than what we saw in the first leg however they’re still not good enough to overcome a three

    Three-goal deficit and winning 4-n at home against Milan I mean that would be incredible if that happened Milan this weekend visited Monza in quite an emotionally charged game m were made great by Sylvia biscone who then left the club and in his later years took over Monza and brought them up to the

    Top Flight and he’s partnering a lot of this hyron gallan is still there and mon had never beaten Milan they go 2-n up Milan bring it back to they go down to 10 men Milan go down to 10 men then bring it back to 2-2 in the 89th minute

    And then still managed to lose 4-2 incredible scenes yeah and two Milan youngsters conspire against them because uh Daniel Maldini who’s on loan from Milan was involved in the go-ahead third goal scored by Bondo and then the four the fourth is by Lorenzo Colombo again Milan youth player so yeah

    Incredible game would have loved to have done that on golat live that would have been amazing did gallani get the bus out for his players inory this when monzo was promoted and B was still alive he did promise at a Christmas party that if they got results

    Against the big clubs they would um they would put on a bus um with hostesses hostesses hostesses for the players um yeah and they they played well they were up for it uh right on Sunday nights yeah but I to go back to Ren like I think this probably goes back

    To campi trust his Squad would he rotate yeah but why did he rotate for this game where with a win they would have gone second and the tie is already pretty much over he got slated for uh for rotating in this game rather than in the

    Ren game exactly I agree they had the opportunity to go second because juuve who haven’t won a game since they got done by inter managed to only get two to draw away Verona relegation strugglers Verona H anyway me line with the second leg at Ren on Thursday also on Thursday

    Of course say’s conference League fixtures maybe The Pick of which is Ajax away in the Arctic Circle taking on game with Jordan Henderson as a captain you gone early with that GE so yes sorry it’ll be what his if he plays it’ll be his fifth game I believe yeah

    And yet to get a win although they did manage to hold Leader’s PSV to a draw in one he still hasn’t won again didn’t get the win and were kind of fortunate were they to get the two2 draw at home to B Glimpse last Thursday lovely equal late The Loft bous

    Thing but yeah yeah they were lucky James they took off Bodo took off their hero the goal scorer uh who got two and then the penalty ah you know whenever you can see the penalty late and you’re only two up it’s a bit nervy Branco vanen boomman my

    Boy stepping up stepping up and scoring something about the the Conference playoffs olympos has a new manager and we deserve to mention his name Jose Lis man Del yes he won the Europa League with Seva a year ago so he’s the new manager of Olympia Co and yeah he was in

    Charge last week he’s been in charge for a few weeks yeah don’t know but he he was appointed 10 days ago yeah yeah but he was there for the the first and they got they got the result yeah yeah one no win they were playing yeah

    Do another one of the French teams as I tried on Thursday but I got no love for that at all and C depends onest so much better than all right then oh did you see that this weekend in the Austrian Bundesliga that was the fastest goal in the League’s history did

    You see this Raph no you want to see it yes won’t take long it’ll take in fact vburger by RB salzburger uh P ratov do you want to see it yes okay let’s have a quick look thought R was going to correct you though very disappoint here

    We go up here let’s just take it back there whistle he block the shot okay and Bosch mhm two three four and that’s in the goal so yeah passes back to the keeper he Bears down on the keeper as the keeper tries to clear it he’s there he pounces and it

    Bounces tread off his foot into the net outstanding from P ROV I don’t know how that game finished I bet PR Charlie does 1-1 one1 one1 so like that and then lince with the opposition it’s only a draw though all right then jwes a narrow 14-point Gap at the top of

    League with PSG winning again 2-0 at n this time n who were their closest Rivals lost against Leon resurgent Leon pet Stone yeah yeah and it’s now bre who are in second placeone wise yeah bre in second after they win against Mar because n and Monaco Monaco lost and a

    Very clever free kick from toose to score a goal against Philip KH um but yeah Big Win foron although the weekend in France was um M exactly yeah by the refering which was absolutely terrible from Friday night in that uh against this game so unusual I mean usually nothing nothing

    Bad can happen with the French referee but this time was from onfield decisions to V decision just everything in pretty much every game there was something uh and they have to do something within the PGM the French PGM what can they do Jo I

    Don’t know I mean I think a lot of those referees are not good enough anyway but which I think we can share in all our leagues pretty much but even within the French PGM so the French like referees Association they there’s a lot of infighting so the yeah the president

    Doesn’t get all the the head of doesn’t get on with is the guy below him there’s a lot of issues everywhere and it’s a shame because some of those decisions were pretty easy to spot even watching on television you could see and yet somehow they managed to get it wrong so

    It’s a real shame but yeah outside of PhD and all the mbappe stories this was a very interesting weekend for because of the the N defeat winning Mar losing breast winning Monaco losing as well it was really good okay excellent kilan bappe who’s now officialized his exit from par

    Y how do you no okay kilan mbapp was now officialized his uh made official his departure his P de um and uh yeah but it was left on the bench for trouble yeah apparently to be rested uhhuh although he didn’t look happy at all getting off the bus then he seems happy

    Again on the bench and when he was coming on he scored a penalty that he got himself and yet he told the players that this is it after seven years he believing at the end of the season he told the club as well the same thing he

    Said please don’t try don’t try to make me change my mind don’t offer me even more money than already have yeah uh don’t make that don’t make it difficult that’s the words he used and the negotiations with real madri are ongoing now don’t it’s done yet like Mar was saying this

    Morning not yet he will be done soon any chance that he might go somewhere else no okay not anymore now it’s it’s it would be done mean have they not had three years of preparing this offer and contracts and yeah because it’s been going on could Florentino not just open the

    Drawer of his desk and go oh there’s the deal we had it’s kind of ready in 2017 here we go to no but there’s image right is isues because he want all of his his own image right 100% which has never been done anywhere before this is not what clubs

    Do he want to go to the Olympics which is not ideal because one is not a FIFA date and two is in preseason SL start of the season so it’s not ideal again if you’re real Madrid and want to parade him and all of that if he’s in France

    For the Olympics between I don’t know the 20th of July until mid August so there’s a lot of things to Ste sort out and also with G in terms of he’s out of contract so but he will leave and he will leave some money behind him there’s

    Still few details to sort out so it will eventually be announced and there will be an agreement but just not yet okay all righty I um number one if you go to Mara right now there is this headline mbappe has already signed his contract with Real Madrid signed by Carlos

    Scarpio U this reporter normally has good information about Real Madrid but um I don’t know if this is very good for La Liga in the long run because I want to follow up on what I said last week I think the Real Madrid is already in a very privileged situation because

    They’ve got money good players Youth and their biggest opponent is pretty much bankrupt Atletico Shimona how long is it going to last uh so Real Madrid can easily win six or seven leagues in the following decade like Barcelona did in the previous decade they become the buern of of

    They could they could and if mbapp goes to Real Madrid this is going to be even more accentuated I think it will be good for La Liga that a player like MPP will go to real sop to offer a new Challenger you know or if they if they had a proper

    Draft system and Al Maria could take him Al Maria who this weekend once again failed to win the only team I think in any of the top five League they said a new Spanish record is that right for yeah is the written is the first Spanish team that uh has 28 consecutive games

    Winless winless yeah winless so they finish bottom of the table get first pick next time around of a European pool of players of course and goes to Al Maria and all of a sudden La Liga gets Mighty it’s hot he will be delighted well show me the way to am he would

    Be so anyway yeah I hear what you’re saying a word on what happened against R vako this weekend um that Rano as a new manager perz by the way he would be boron’s assistant uh have the brexit rules no not affected him because he couldn’t K with anona to England Inigo Perez he

    Played for atletic Club B and he managed to get a point against Real Madrid Real Madrid of course had a really good month and players in the sidelines and all that I think it was time for them or they could afford to drop a couple of points here um Rio has been competitive

    Against Barcelona and Real Madrid this season at ber they also threw and I think that this is a little damage for Real Madrid a minor one but if kirona beats atletic Club B Monday but this another E like last week uh then you know La Liga title race gets hotter

    Again okay athletic no mugs of course very good uh We’ve touched on Verona’s two to draw with you Juventus and the Monza mang game but how about bologna facing the latzio side who had beaten Bayern at the stadio olympo midweek and bologna going there and beating them 21 yeah

    Came back from behind as well really impressive thought the game actually was high level in terms of two coaches who kind of identify the same football philosophies um but now Bayan have all these problems Kane’s rubbish now that Raph says Josh is Zer not rubbish no rubbish

    Z has been I mean people think he should score more goals he scored in this game but he’s just such a silky player you know like it feels like he’s got Velcro on his boots he loves taking the ball in pressure like three or four Defenders around swarming him and he’ll find the

    Pass out of it wonderful Lewis Ferguson again captaining in the team so bologna keep uh keep on pushing on and to be honest their way form has been something that held them back this is only their second away win this season wow so a big win game sort of

    Resplendant of um s Mich as well CA big player for L and Sena the the uh the coach that Thiago M replaced sena’s wife was talking about how bologna honored his contract and paid right until the final day even though you know obviously passed away more than than a year ago

    His contract was think up in the summer um but yeah there were lots of really fun things about CIA this weekend no kind of nominal big games right but like you had the Atlanta saso game so Atlanta and and and bologna I think level on points fourth place but it

    Might not even go to fourth place might be fifth place of course yeah because of the the the coefficient for the expanded champions league but Atlanta uh where they had the goalkeeper Marco kiseki um Mark dried meat he made he made two penalty saes back to back like he he saved one from

    Pinamonti and then someone I think kassin had encroached and so you thought pinam Monti is going to put this one away and now kiseki saved it second save is even better than the first one because he takes he takes the second penalty better amazing right on the

    Stroke of half time and he you can see him going down the tunnel with the ball like like a hatrick goal scor wanting to take it away but then the ref is like no it’s mine give it to me R of rules so rul of rules you also had EMP David

    Niola has he continued his unbeaten streak at the tusken side yes and he he held the fantina to a one more draw in the derby yeah and you said earlier that Juventus haven’t been the same since they lost to inter right well their winless run started with a draw against

    Davidola empy so he’s the he’s the CP tonight excellent yeah cerie one point from safety but behind Verona who themselves got a draw as we’ve heard with Juventus anything else from cidia James no I mean it was like it was fun I really enjoyed watching cidia this

    Weekend I mean I do most we but this was like it was fun so yeah L lost r one BOS very good well that’s kind of it then for today’s Euro show yeah uh looking forward to seeing what happens in that midweek action we’ll be doing a uh Champions League highlight show James

    Wednesday night with Michael Len yeah we enjoyed that last week wonder if his horse won yeah his horses one yeah nice and then Thursday night it’s another Big Goal show possibly the last one of the season oh really we would do around 16 may be maybe you never know but

    Possibly as I say but anyway four and a half hours of mad cap Europa and Conference League actually could be more than four it could be extra time if it goes to extra time which it has done in the past other then we could be there all night

    You know drop drop in listener you know 7:30 on TNT Thursday night is that right 7 it’s before that we’re on at 5:30 5:30 sorry yeah 5:30 No 5 yeah really trust me on this there’s an early set games there early games 5:30 no no no we

    Listen I’m so sorry about this we’ll sort this out between you get on with your day 5:30 on TNT Thursday night and on red button yeah and Discovery app plus yeah all right thanks so much Jo thank you Rafa thank you AO thank you James thank you Rachel and charie in the

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