The Burgundian Backstab | Victoria 2 MP TNO

The campaign explodes into its largest war yet, with cunning backstabs, diplomacy, and plenty of encirclements.

Mod Used (Victoria 2 TNO): https://github.com/codingfan786/Vic2-TNO

Music Used (in order):
Holst – The Planets Mars
Strauss – The Blue Danube
Suzerain OST – Pinnacle
Shostakovich – Symphony No 10 mov 2
Jeff Van Dyck – War of Kings
Kevin MacLeod – Exotic Battle
The Gray Infantry Instrumental
Ace Combat 6 Unofficial OST – Desparate Defense
Facetta Nera
HOI IV Soundtrack – Rising Tensions
Dias Irae
Pomp and Circumstance No. 1
Kevin MacLeod – Meatball Parade
Victoria 2 – Johanns Waltz

0:00 Another War in India
2:54 Invasion of Germany
5:13 Planning an Intervention
7:17 Rush to the Front
11:12 Northern Push
16:45 Turning Eastward
21:00 Pressure
23:46 Deals and Negotiations
28:18 The Final Push
31:14 Nuclear Ultimatum
33:19 Fallout
33:53 Analysis
37:24 Outro

There is a non-aggression pack between India and big Oh India Bros India Bros holy [ __ ] oh B is here Mr President we need your opinion once again what you already joined oh really for once yeah oh Boris is back the is back Bros oh like it never

Left the us only has like two stacks [ __ ] are you sure he only has two you know us you know Boris you could have [ __ ] put more than just two stacks of [ __ ] troops okay that’s all I [ __ ] asked from you and you just don’t do anything there have been like three

Armies in alsas On the Border just sitting idly just like oh yeah there still are Mr President what happened oh my God Tri I’m going to use the NES India wants them oh [ __ ] I just I just want I just want to bet freid bro if you use nukes

Then I’m joining I’m not I’m not watch out do you accept this to white piece to white piece dude let it be known it’s just a white piece dude dude no I I’ll I’ll [ __ ] if it’s a white piece I’m declaring war again [ __ ] you so Never Surrender or okay fine launch

Them launch them nuclear war we’re going fine did you actually backed down again Supreme ofn Victory holy [ __ ] nice okay the US has to send troops to India now right he just [ __ ] hasis Boris I’m I’m literally begging you you you must [ __ ] send them like now 80 brigades now all myo I

Needing the back I need c now bro I need Cog I need more bullets I my Navy look just any transports bring 80 brigades and they’re just leaving them in India okay I know you have 300 Brigade count you can afford this Mr President Japan is once again going in on India

Ofn member did I ever tell you the definition of insanity the I don’t see why it wouldn’t I mean he said do it again I’m gonna I’m gon to keep [ __ ] doing it I’m just going to keep get backing down and then I’m just going to keep [ __ ] doing

It oh uh one thing I almost forgot yes uh MJ you got to unsere me got to unsere me I’m in the rules this war against you back I’m sorry Man so has to be deared by MRE why I’m joining against you what what they’re joining against me yeah I’m Sor this the plan online I expect a committed Alliance all right no you get who it’s all against me UK burgundy and France yes that’s awesome most aware

Germany dude what happened to the the pack of iron Italy and stuff you know what willed uh bergundy this entire campaign and then they just backstabbed me entire campaign it’s been two sessions one and a half sessions yeah that’s the entire campaign it not that

Hey wait it’s only been 2 hours oh my God and this whole time I’ve had no one to help me I’ve tried you know what I don’t care no big deal got should have conquered everything bro you should have conquered everything you ate all your potential

Allies what do you mean he didn’t eat I I didn’t eat enough that was the problem really this is based on everyone hating Germany because Germany owns like a little bit of everyone’s stuff I don’t don’t tell the sky history don’t tell the guy Bell history yeah there’s Noy

Negotiating with anyone here even even if I try Okay Italian spear move down I think I think we got to join this in proxy Mr musolini I am your top guy I will follow you to the ends of the Earth let’s do it I I was saying turkey that

We should join this war in proxy so we can’t get new can’t lose land but we we can fight for um no ideological reasons join purely game balance reasons joining Germany joining Germany uh think about it bro like what’s the game we got to we got to fight the

Fight why not why not why not fight Germany you know cuz he’s just going to Nuke you uh yeah that’s that’s a good point in addition to uh already being being mogged the the problem is I want cuz Romania is both Allied to Germany and in

His fear and I want to [ __ ] get that Coastline so I’ll I’ll probably just talk to him about it but if if we want to fight I’ll fight it be nice to do something this campaign if you guys join I will join I say we mobilize get our

Troops ready see if nukes fall before then and then if they don’t join you oh but this my all uh we’re we want to join you off proxy we just want to get Romania out of it oh okay you’ll be fighting uh quite a bit of people we’re we’re

Going to join as proxies so don’t get invaded but um if nukes start flying we’re out so allies but not really allies acquaint proxy just means we can send troops we just aren’t actually in the war so we can’t take War goals and um we can’t lose War goals and

We can’t get invaded although I don’t know if it’ll turn into a great War if I join it probably will well the crisis War didn’t all right all right all right you know what who wants to find Out okay boss I’m going to be fighting this South all right okay funnel lot whatever you can oh oh you can encircle them hit Kaiser slash Germany you got to move all your armies up the quter Man uh guys do people hear me we got to communicate yeah I hear you yeah yeah Kaiser Slaughter oh I see it cuz right now I’m hitting the American Flank In allas and we’re currently killing them yeah can can I get reinforced in Kaiser slashing I’m getting slaughtered here for some

Uh nearby John my John Cena took over from my five attack what the heck don’t send them all in we can uh just send one Army make sure to reinforce the you left the um or is open man they can’t move through France you join to Pro wait they’re retreating through

Uh uh we we got to hit them in uh tree a so we can encircle that British tack Guys can I get uh units in the southern half of the flank um MJ just really focus on moving your units up please cuz you’re not in battles where you really should be and you’re just not on the front line which is so open and it’s really hurting us

Bad like I need to retreat out of this battle that’s like going to cost us an encirclement oh the presno yeah like I just lost that battle and we should be getting inir right now man do you want me to keep moving into Trier or hold star

Bricken don’t move into Trier don’t move into Tri don’t oh they’re moving yeah I’m putting the see like we’re getting in circled where we shouldn’t be and like Germany still has units here and he’s not reinforcing Battles yeah oh holy [ __ ] that’s like 10 to one casualties in C what is that oh it’s Turkish Turkish five defense Turkish see now we’re re encircling them again hold on guys please we keep losing these [ __ ] encirclement battles cuz you’re not moving units over what what battle luberg man I

Don’t okay just I can’t cuz you’re losing it so Fast it’s okay we’re winning plenty of other batt but you have to look at it from the one you should be moving units because we shouldn’t be losing battles we should be winning and it’s costing us encirclements I’ll move into lber as soon as we can we we’re about to wipe out the

Mountain Kesn all right there okay so now we just won a battle now all we got to do is back those troops out and and replace them oh so we’re not we’re not are we following up into trie air or Not Sorry Lu uh we can pull out of that soon it’s

Just because they were um it was keeping an encirclement going that’s why we were um fighting it okay uh should I move I’m going to keep moving into tree a to that battle going that’s very helpful cuz uh the reason why that battle needs to go on is to uh Wipe Out the

That’s yeah heavy oh but it’s okay we’re going to wipe out the Brits yeah oh [ __ ] I took so much losses in that battle Man deadia for free Tibet we won kresno how many that’s 30 British brigades hold on I think we should try to wrap around um in the

North cuz Romania is doing it yeah oh man this is uh inter it’s fine it could be worse I I I swear I thought like everyone was going to go into us cuz either attack move in where I’m at or um attack somewhere else cuz they got armies you

Know uh what about uh should we trap them in M cuz those are tanks we could I I’m pinning those but they’re they’re going to get wrecked ooh I attack TR TR I’m going to attack TR okay uh we’re taking a lot of losses and not it doesn’t matter just attack TR

It’s broken there’s no 50k only um this this is we’re Overextended we could uh encircle them in tree air if we attack oh how are they winning if you’re taking more cash this doesn’t make sense okay should I reinforce aen here or Tri uh let’s pull out of a are you guys going to about to pull out of Tri as

Well yeah I’m going to pull up pull up pull up don’t go in Turkey pull out a Trier yep there we go I mean it was a good offense we they took more cat than we did all right let’s uh let’s let these troops replenish cuz we’re fighting in our

Territory not theirs get more of a buff Italian communist rose up oh my [ __ ] gosh they pull out of spa they pull out of spa moving Let’s uh let’s uh reinforce hold on don’t attack them yet no I’m not attacking just oh down going attack if if we Siege down when the

Month comes we don’t reforce good [ __ ] get I forgot it’s all right though we kicked them out of German territory we got wind condition here boys they have barely any or I think we should begin the offensive into B Burgundian walone Aron yes Arlon and uh uh hassard simultaneously all right you

Sure this might not be a good time to Di aage troops off and kill off the Polish I think this is on the okay go go go go go all right move your troops up all over uh form into hassold my for oh wait we have nothing

In Spa yeah I’m moving dude you did not just [ __ ] unc your attack when I told you I was going to support you okay hold on I was waiting for uh the support for M okay I’m in sorry about that turn around the Germans are no

Longer behind me oh uh hey let’s attack guys okay they left they left part of the flank open nice not bad not bad Italy if you can move up your troops in uh the Netherlands and also my country oh dude we’re taking massive casualties in in in

In in Arlon in the the bottom bottom battle uh Kavinsky could you hold down the Eastern FR and I I’m bringing like 90k like it’s going to be enough gotta oh [ __ ] I’m taking like 14k casualties up top it’s bad oh damn I see

That uh may have to pull out of that one I’m sending in a re reinforce which which one are you wor worried about pulling having to pull out of uh it’s the one with the 87 good yep uh let’s pull out of that uh 3 2 one no no no no

No no you can’t just pull out of that man there’s of provinces behind it it’s fine it’s fine just pull out Hungary pull out pull out are you sure okay I’m pulling out yeah we got to we got to switch to I think oh I don’t know that whatever okay turkey pull out

You the casualties are really good for us up north yeah like 77 we we could win we could still still win um our long I still I I still have a full 30 30k stack I can send it actually you guys want to encircle um

Bra if we attack antp we can cut it off but we need to we already W it uh pretty mid our lawn’s still going on uh maybe we could do another offensive casualties are in our favor in our lawn dude I’m so chewed up just support the current defensive battle and then I

Honestly say just go over and kill Poland I’m I’m going after po yeah he he’s uh you need some more troops no no oh my God I do need troops in the side flank here what in Middle bird yes I just lost it because nobody reinforced it well

Dude you didn’t say you were attacking I just said I I was not attacking I was defending and we both pointed it out okay well maybe we can do something they don’t have much org it’s all R we don’t have much org dude look at my

Units uh what do you guys think about our launch should we pull out we’re taking casual actually let’s let’s get turkey let’s keep fighting it let’s get turkey reinfor into just switch just switch on to the defensive on this front and then just go and take the time to kill but I

Think let’s keep trying to reinforce Cy I feel like we can win it you’re you’re saying something like you’re going to win but I don’t know over a long time how it’s going to work out for you Kavinsky I’m sending you three uh brigades over to the Eastern Front I’ll

Be arriving in uh Germania honestly I say we Crush Poland then we ask for terms or try to neot you guys think we could get Russia in on This cuz Russia could attack Poland uh someone may want to ask him about that wait are we fighting Poland or um yeah we are Nova Pula but I’m wondering if we could entice Russia to join our side dude I thought it was I thought he was AI hold on I’ll be right

Back Jim are you playing as Russia right now yeah do you want to come in and just snag land from Poland uh I’m dealing with a rebellion right now oh do you want to do both not really damn is it really that bad of a rebellion it’s more the fact that I’m

Not mobilized and it’s probably like 50 brigades compared to my like 70 you now so like I need to consolidate most of my Army okay he he’s too busy dealing with rebellions what what this is such a crucial moment it’s a crucial moment he’s dying to

Rebels the goal is to get him to move into planes so we can attack him oh get ready to attack that PLS province in Poland you know what I’m talking about instead of Lisi going to shake a bit okay he’s not moving because he realized now we showed

Up move your troops away from the front uh Germany make sure they’re at least one Province away from the front line the goal is to make it so he thinks The Border’s Open 11 to 14 okay I’m Ready you’re going to track through a river is St fine uhoh I’m this one day it’s literally one day Taking someone reinforce that guy I’m going to lose Romania because what I’m sorry my my units can’t get over fast enough yeah yeah I’m just saying we’re going to follow up what on yeah follow up hold on uh do we have any more units cuz we could we could try to encircle this go go go go go oh we’re

Losing 10K at tick man we we should pull out of that battle it’s because of the role man look like look at the things before you comment on them it’s cuz of the role and they have more troops we have we also can’t Retreat like think when we can we should

When we can Retreat the role will change and we can change our judgment Italy what’s going on here you’re moving troops to uh the other front Eastern Front communicated this to you what’s our role yes yes we should pull out listen I think Now’s the Time you go

To talk about terms cuz like right now you’re doing the suicidal battle in our lawn that’s going infinitely Oh I thought you said we should pull out all right pull out of our law that’s not at all what I was saying I’m saying it now they’re attacking us now in the

Netherlands so we shouldn’t be fighting these I’m taking 14k casualties up north we shouldn’t be fighting these battles down south where we’re attacking a forest since they’re attacking us down here now okay defend we’re doing we’re doing aming in listen as long as I get units up to

Reinforce these battles we’re good but otherwise the front Line’s going to shatter yeah also remember to R Germany you have units right next to it thank you yeah I know move up some Troop All right I’m rotating my Eastern Front armies back over when have to okay Italy you just pull pulled out

Without consulting me I pulled out a 4K in braa I didn’t pull out the battle all right well you can’t just leave battles without consulting us you just did that what I pulled out a unin un I pulled out a 1K stack with no org to cycle he was cycling yeah exactly

Okay well tell me you’re recycling that’s yeah uh but those tanks are shredding us right now so in uh inen so let’s Okay uh can we get the Turkish five defense in these battles up north yeah just they’ve got a uh five attack we not doing I’m

Sending oh we need units we need units at the very tip of um I’ll put it there I’ll try to at the tip of the Netherlands or else they’re just going to straight walk hey won uh yeah let’s quickly I can I can move a stack into

Utra what the oh they’re pulling out of they’re pulling out of utre good good [ __ ] okay oh oh 33 no no never mind okay stop attacking now use defend oh [ __ ] need to reinforce yeah I’m I’m doing it we I think we should take this time to

Ask for terms try to get a away piece out of this I can I’m least I’m the least busy I start Neary pull out the South battle pull out of the South battle Hungary pull out of one okay I think Hungary oh good he’s still I think he just left to negotiate

Guys who joined it’s uh Russia what up can you attack Poland if you give me the entire re’s com area of Russia yeah yeah sure that’s fine then release I’ll join release what release it right now and I’ll join oh no thanks um you shouldn’t do that cuz then

You won’t be able to control the armies in the war Y how about you just attack now and you can have the advantage uh uh by just gaining land from them yeah that’s true you have like a lot to gain just naturally just by attacking don’t need your help we could

Probably be fine but if you want to help and be on good terms with us then you might as well I mean this Poland thing seems to be a pretty big issue no nobody’s really fighting him in battles the issue is that you have that many brigades standing by not helping well

You know what it’s up to you there’s no battles in the west right now we just move [ __ ] over to deal with it like if he moves out of the planes just if he does there’s no battles in the west yeah is the US just not sending [ __ ]

Like he’s fighting Japan at the same time I think well there’s no like there’s no battles oh I have no Clement I think the US is sending fresh troops over here though and they’re fighting Japan as well so well like I said there’s no US troops fighting that

War is going to steal me but yeah if you want to attack like uh new Poland now this would be the perfect opportunity for you to well I kind of have to get ready buddy all right buddy okay so I think we have entered stalemate

Mode is there a uh five month timer or something nope I mean the the official rule is it’s a one month stalemate rule right oh sorry one year one year stalemate roll yeah I I think we sent Hungary down to negotiate cuz um oh yeah okay what are our terms what like

Generally what I I I would just like a white piece out of this no no no no no guys guys I’m going in I’m moving my Army there don’t pull out okay um listen man like half my alliance is dying to Rebels right now Germany what are you

Looking to get out of this like pieces of burgundy I would like pieces of burgundy yes okay do you want gelderland Holland freezeland freezeland freezeland sounds good I’m I’m thinking for freezeland okay and uh yeah I’m fine with white pieace and I don’t want to push my luck who’s that who’s saying

That Italy Italy Italy you’ve worked so hard in this war man like you have barely listen I don’t I don’t want to sunk cost over 200k pops man you are at nine power status you’re about to lose great power status fighting this I’m going to go kinsky went into the other

Chat I’m going to go back him up I was going to lose it anyways try to get either freezeland out of this worst case scenario white piece they still they want a state off of Germany I what makes them think they can take a state off of Germany because they

Think that like they they think that they can still fight this war for a long time so I’m not I’m not negotiating it’s either going to be a stalemate white piece or I’m taking something with uh well you can St me take well I’m I’m saying right now right that they they

Are in the mood to fight they are not in the mood for even a white peace hey guys good news I finish my war I’m going to go and free Italy and all you guys from Rebels all right you know what I’m not I’m not giving up land just give up no I

I don’t think you should I I don’t think you I think we can keep fighting this hold on um try to try to move around Poland with your armies try to like kind of fake and circle him no no no wait for me wait for me I’m coming where are your armies kevinsky

Where the [ __ ] are they they coming from from Africa my man where are they right now he no no no he’s talking about playing West German Africa and my country at the same time yeah I mean dude I called the stalemate so if you don’t do anything in [ __ ] um East

Prussia or east whatever Kevin I’ll take care I’ll take care of it man don’t worry about it okay you you do your thing in West Africa I I’ll monitor the Eastern Front yeah I’m I’m just going big offensive right now Lo on yeah they’re attacking hold on if you instead of

Starting another battle what if you guys sent your units over to kill Poland cuz like the whole point is we want to stop this annoyance on the other front like you guys are worrying about like cracking the front that’s never going to crack they’re doing all right they’re

Doing all right it’s fine it’s fine uh I want to okay are you ready for this uh Invasion attack the southern battle and then I’ll Attack the northern battle once the rebels finish okay so this is this is pretty much like Germany’s decision right so MJ what’s wouldn’t you

Guys be Breaking Your Own St wait wait wait Germany don’t attack kis from kis you’re going to give yourself a river crossing and I did it God damn it okay don’t stop the attack entirely just all right hold for a second General okay I need action so I’m

Going yes yes now attack the north province with the 86k okay okay but that’s a river crossing too but all right to remember to cycle not doing too hot Fine three is like 53k don’t move the w okay uh you should Retreat that what do you think should we pull out of uh Lin no we need to keep moving stuff over like this is why I hate when you guys start these attacks for no reason dude

Like you’re trying to start an offensive in the west and you’re trying to start one in the East and now we’re losing both like I don’t get it that’s just how it works I mean we are winning we’re we’re doing am masing bro you look at the casualty number and you

Think we’re winning but what does this achieve us where have we where have we gone they’ll just reinforce next one and we’ll try again Y no big all right but once Germany once you get once you get more units over try to flank around the sides cuz I think we

Finally have enough units here now yeah I see that this is their entire force all we got to do is win these battles and then maybe able to push them back but I have these [ __ ] Rebels that are blocking mine Hey My My Army is almost here nice he’s in

Italy one follow up on both are you sure yes we need to kill him are they moving just follow up everywhere man all Right can this Russia guy join already man like I told you GNA join when is he joining I told you I what I was joining for okay I don’t get what you mean I literally said what I wanted earlier to join oh wait oh wait wait how how can French

Wait I just got a new dude I’m just saying can yeah can you uh do we have anybody wa the 28k can you send those in there wait dude we can’t leave braa because they can attack braa uh stay in braa Iberia Iberia Iberia stay in braa 22k in

Bra 22k in bra 22k and bra oh God wa you got walk in behind me W you got to walk in behind me into ANP walk in behind me into Anor wer wer please guys please do something middle oh my God like to point out now loses their sphere because they’re rank

Nine I’m there I’m there [ __ ] God damn it [ __ ] you AR can you just can you move your [ __ ] all right we got a need I’m going to uh we need for white piece all right I’m for white piece do now wait wait wait hold on hold on did

Wait wait hold on did Germany get a nuclear ultimatum yes I did and as just WIP peace wait if Germany got it you can wipe peace huh if Germany got it he can WIP peace hold on do I PE no I got it wait I got it like do I wi piece

Them yeah okay I’m going to I’m going to so we’re just we’re just going to I’ll take the white piece right yes yes yeah that’s fine if Germany got it Germany did get it that’s true right cool so the we can’t risk a nuclear war yeah yeah say we can’t risk nuclear war

Did they [ __ ] themselves over or what yeah kind of it’s kind of funny it took okay it wasn’t like in no no no again literally we just did this what the [ __ ] man just did this what the [ __ ] wait what that hold on I don’t think that’s

Suppos AIS Victory I don’t think that’s supposed to happen easy Dove easy no no one backy no one back burgundy that’s a mechanic moment we’re not rehosting over this we’re not rehosting over this that is a skill issue should have had somebody back crisis no I didn’t get what you

Mean welcome to the analysis section where I talk about things things you might have missed the implications of events on the future of the campaign and how players could have potentially done better this war which was a great war in all but name was only stopped from being

So due to a bug in the save game which ended up causing great Wars to not be enabled shortly after the session this bug was fixed and great Wars will be enabled going forward but this small bug really did change the entire fronts of the war in the current rule set proxy

Members get upgraded from essentially volunteers to fully fledged participants so the front size would have effectively doubled in the western although I don’t know how this would have changed the war in the long run the start of it was more like an early game war with the front and burgundy not

Being filled and Maneuvers being made in the Rin land and over time it slowly shifted and settled towards Frontline combat in Belgium and the Netherlands although who’s to say how this could have changed uh maybe if France joined directly and his front was open he could

Have occupied all SAS and held us there maybe he could have pushed to the rine or maybe he could have got pushed back all the way to Paris who knows but opposed to speculation there’s one factor that could have really won them the war and you may have noticed at the

Start that I never showed the Brigade counts for this war and this is because if I showed you the brigades of both sides it would have looked like this with them having 50% more brigades than us but when you realize that German Africa didn’t get his troops to the

Front and that the American cosign looked like this the entire War the Brigade cap in Europe looks more like this 800 versus 700 pretty equal if America actually used their massive Army in Europe I think this war would have gone much differently oh and for those curious about the Japan war Japan

Declared war to liberate Tibet for the second time and won that war with minimal casualties since Tibet is effectively landlocked from India I think the greatest missed opportunity from this war is definitely from Russia somebody who didn’t even participate in it with the hindsight of the white piece

The player couldn’t have gained anything from Noah PSA but he had the offer to be given Moscow right there in exchange for assisting Us in beating the already damaged polish Army all of Moscow could have been his but he made one demand so egregious that most Vic players would

Never consider it to be given all the land before joining the war a sign to us that he didn’t trust us to give him the reward and a sign that made us think he wasn’t trustworthy himself could he be trusted could Germany be trusted who knows either way Germany controls Moscow

And Russia got nothing although I am curious to hear your takes about it in the comments for my side I don’t have too many comments we could have communicated better and we probably could have put more focus into one of our two fronts but at the end of the day we were

Winning on both of them for this section my main concern ER is the nuke problem both this war and the war that started this video ended over a nuke for white peace decision no diplomacy no negotiations just force somebody to accept the white piece or tank both of your

Populations when you see this event your choice is to accept white peace keep fighting and get nuked once or to keep fighting retaliate and get nuked by every member of their alliance with nukes in this case four members accurate to how nuclear diplomacy actually works probably gameplay mechanic certainly not

The India and European conflicts are doomed to be an eternal series of white peace Wars until the day one of us decides to stop the game of chicken by letting the nukes actually fall but before we get ahead of ourselves and ask philosophical questions about game mechanics rules and balance we must

First heal the damage of this war our sphere is currently crumbling and our possessions are in shambles can we even make it to the next Great War intact we’ll find out next time see you then Oh