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Let’s move on I suppose God I hate the future so much don’t buy the Goon goggles I’m not it’s not even fear it’s disgust like it’s genuine disgust by the time travel just go back to Plato and be like books what about audio books huh yeah Plato put on the Goon

Goggles just yeah oh I just can’t take him and I just I hate the future everything about it has been a profound disappointment you got remember when when we were kids so oh by the way we’re going to have flying cars and like things are going to be great and it’s

Like yeah turns out that actually everyone’s going to be like a weird listed consumer who’s got no money and got no future and got nowhere to go but is actually going to be an actual bug like with a masturbation machine and some Sommer intake living on Plato’s

Goon c yeah yeah living in play as goon it’s like why would you want this like one of the things that was promised about the future was authenticity right things would be authentically awesome you will have a flying car you will fly to Mars on your flying car and you’ll

Land on Mars and this will be amazing then you’ll have sex with a green alien you were lied to yes yes and it’s like no no no what are you talking about you won’t have any of those things what you’ll have is the virtual experience of doing those things and then you’ll turn

It off see that you’re in a 5×5 square box and then put on the the mountain thing where you take a dumb and when it gets too much you just ask the government to kill you yeah then you’ll just be like yeah okay yeah just euthanize me now you know the problem

With flying cars right you know they’re oh I’m sure there are loads of problems with fire cars no no the technology is perfect we been able to do it for DEC but I’m sure there are enough crashes when it’s bloody two Dimension that’s the problem yeah I know it’s the humans

Of course it’s the humans always the humans but the but the point is at least it would be an authentic flying car crash and the children who are killed by the debris but reality would actually exist whereas in the future we’re going into reality doesn’t exist and actually

When you look around around at reality be like man this is awful I got to get back in the Goon cave like literally the the reality will be so terrible it will justify the Goon cave well let’s get back out of the Goon cave and into the the

Wilderness sorry I’m just really I I hate it so much I’ve got to write an article called PL as goon cave now so I don’t like being right all the time but it happens so often I get used to it um a while ago in fact two years

Ago well a year and a half ago uh we did this premium hangout on l.com which you can go sign up5 pound a month and watch where I was like look there is enough evidence there is sufficient evidence to suggest that there are in fact wild big

Cats living in the UK and Callum was skeptical I asked you to prove it I don’t think that’s too harsh well there are levels of proof right so there is inductive proof and there there is I sort a dream yeah look that’s one level of proof but

I was that’s a standard of proof I was not applying for this hangout right there there were small pieces of evidence that when taken in some inductively suggested that there were live bring big cats wild in Britain wandering around uh pretty much all over the place actually um from various

Sightings from various animal attacks and uh P prints and things like this right but no Callum that wasn’t good enough for you that wasn’t good enough I seem to recall quite agreeing with you by the end no I don’t well maybe but I’m going to assume you didn’t it was two

Years ago it’s funny out that way all right y yeah but now we have the actual solid proof that they are and so we’re going to present it um so so were you just angry that you thought I didn’t agree with you and that’s what this is

Yeah cool cool let’s go so uh this from last year is uh Tristan cork senior reporter for glosser life and he this has been and it’s not just calb obviously there’s a for some reason in Britain there’s a series of deniers out there no no most people deniers of this

And I don’t know why like what like this is really well covered on small news outlets in the southwest like Bristol gloustershire like you know Somerset all that sort thing there’s always an article like oh Big Cat Spotted or you know sheep ravaged or and everyone’s

Like no there are no big cats and there’s all always in the comments like why why would you deny that like what’s the point of denying it it’s just this normaly bias where it’s like no no no that’s not real and so it comes to like

This guy being like no no no they do live here and I don’t care if you don’t believe it because he says well look I know they exist I’ve seen one I’ve spoken to lots of other people who have seen them I’ve spoken to lots of farmers

Who have had their animals killed by them and come face to face with them so these are definitely real and still you get this large contingent of people saying no that’s not real it’s like no it is real you just haven’t seen one yet right um he gives an example of a

Chicken farmer who went to his chicken coops in the morning and found that a panther had broken into them and was trapped under the chicken coops because it like clawed its way through the wooden barricade outside but couldn’t get actually into the CPS to kill the the chickens and so

He goes in and he’s just looking at this Panther and the Panther’s looking at him it’s like oh God this must be awkward uh he got out of the way so he could get out as quickly as possible um but the guy was obviously OB terrified because

Just to be clear these things are massive and very dangerous you know when you watching a wildlife documentary you see the leopard kill a gazelle and then drag it up into a tree that’s what the he’s seeing like an animal that powerful just wandering around what no I don’t

Want to interrupt I’m listening so that that’s what they’re seeing um there was another one a church Warden just walking his dog on a Sunday morning and his dog starts going at a bush and he’s like okay let’s the dog the lead and a panther comes out and

Just starts trotting off the dog obviously runs off it’s like Jesus Christ you know this is a bit serious isn’t it uh there’s another one a farmer in North Wilshire again don’t think this a million miles away from us or anything uh one of his cows had given birth

Overnight but the cow was nowhere to be found they followed a trail of blood across the field and found the calf uh in a branch halfway tree to be fair if it’s not that far from Swindon it’s more likely that it’s like an aat Tran in an animal costume raiding farms for Hal

Butchers I I would like that to be the case but the thing is this is the photo that’s not a kitty that’s a big kitty look at the Jaws on that thing that is a panther wouldn’t the wasn’t the source for these slightly edited if I recall

The podast is not edited wasn’t the source for this that basically people had them back in the day when you could buy exotic animals yes and like getting rid of this yes in the 19th century victorians went out and explored the world and a lot of them brought home big

Cats as like you know fun things to have look at this strange foreign exotic thing that I have Arabs today and then in the 60s we for some reason and I don’t know why we keep doing this elected a labor government and the labor government like well no we can’t have

Big cats uh they’re banned and so everyone’s like okay so what do we do with the dozens of big cats that are around and the labor government was like not our problem job solved the thing has been banned and therefore that’s the problem solved forever as far as we’re

Concerned and so people just like okay I guess we’ll release it into the wild then and now we have a breeding population of panthers roaming around the English Countryside anyway let’s move on to the again you you you might be like well I mean a picture um no I think that’s pretty good

To be honest but um this was near cheltam this was taken can I dog January 24 this year I think the picture was actually taken in December last year but it’s very recent picture in chelon that’s not far from here that’s like 20 miles is this why you’re particularly touched yeah this is

Why I’m particularly near your house yeah actually if this was happening up in Scotland I’d be like well okay that’s bad but it’s my problem that’s not they deserve it it’s not really my problem if it was in London it might actually improve things yeah if it was in London

I’d probably be in favor of it right but the thing is no is tell and so they found some DNA obviously they found some DNA um so this was from glosser where DNA from black hair caught in a Baro fence following a sheep attack um was tested

Uh and so forensic laboratory took on the species identification task and use mitochondrial DNA analysis to Asain a 99% plus match to uh a black leopard basically so there I don’t how the taxonomy of big cats works but basically um Panthers and things like that are actually leopards that just have melanin

Melanated coats I know the word melanated has been no no I’m laughing because I’m looking at the image and he looks like a medieval drawing of a leopard where he’s fat it’s just yeah kind of funny but in the winter they get a thick Co hair yeah yeah get funny but

Anyway so yeah this this is apparently um totally confirmed at this point scientifically confirmed and if it wasn’t for all of the dead carcasses we would just have to infer it do I mean what animals are doing that exactly and this is something that happens all the

Time that one farmer came down and like came into his field found a sheep with his head chewed off it’s like right what did that a hungry hungry era trance yeah exactly so this appears to be exactly the case and the thing is so this This

Lends Credence to the fact that in fact um people seeing things and Reporting things doesn’t make them mad actually usually it means that there’s something that’s happening are you going to install big cat mod to your goon goles and just see them everywhere no no no no

No Callum knows where this is going I know where this is blood going if people repeatedly see something repeat repeatedly catch blurry photos of things uh eventually it’ll turn out that it’s probably there’s something there because these these sightings have been happening for decades and apparently they’re increasing so I mean there is

Certain cly a breeding population because one as we talked about in the pre podcast a cub was found a dead Cub was found so it’s certainly a breeding population um these things are seen all the time and so of course Kellum it’s only a matter of

Time only a matter of time I’ll do a trade I’ll believe in Bigfoot if you believe no if you get down to believe in the moon landings that’s fairly easy I think I could prove them mo thats toan yeah good luck I mean I don’t I don’t know how I

Feel about the moon Landings I mean the whole like oh we’ve we’ve forgotten the technology to go back there guys it’s like really have you seen the stuff I have seen the difference and stuff but the and and oh we destroyed a bunch of the things for some reason why would you

Do that you know that there’s okay so when you move um was it Saturn 5 the massive ones they did for the moon there’s a crawler and you put the rocket on the crawler and that’s allow you to move it around vertically that crawler they’ve lost the technology 40K style

They legitimately cannot build another one because the guys who made it are dead okay you’re really not selling me on the moon landings are real no but who do you think’s in the engineering department now who can’t make that sure but they’re not the only engineering department I

Mean Elon Musk could probably set up an engineering he could build a new moon crawler but it’s a very complicated thing and would take him a while but he’d get it done I’m sure he could I’m just saying NASA can’t yeah I’m skeptical um but anyway the point is I’m

Betting that in 2024 Bigfoot body beh hold you to that yeah put it on Bingo card1 pound bet okay all right is he going to is he going to crawl out of the tunnel in New York City who knows who knows cuz I mean like 2024 has been

Pretty crazy so far um God if I lose this come on come on right what I want is positive energy if you dress up in a bigfoot costume that doesn’t dressing up no no no no no no it’s got to be subscribers doing again now solid proof that Bigfoot

Exists in 2024 that’s my prediction because it’s a more safe better than any political prediction at this point um but the point is going back to something that’s not a joke obiously the point is this is a genuine concern um this is a real issue because people have been

Attacked by these there was one woman in Scotland who was attacked by what she described as a very large cat in front of her house um she managed to get away and there was one uh chap in gloss though who’s riding on his bike with his 10-year-old son through the woods and he

Saw a huge black blur chase after his son that only diverted when he came around the corner and saw him and therefore got scared off R but that could have been a DI kit right so like I think actually if you’re living in England you actually have to be aware

That the woods and the countryside is not as safe as you might have thought um and people just have to stop saying this isn’t real because no it is absolutely real we’ve got the evidence what more would you need um I haven’t really got

That much to say on this one too this is I’m right and everyone’s wrong and it’s nice to be to say it I think we need the gun rolls back I’ll be honest yeah I’m totally in favor like if there the whole reason we got rid of the guns let’s be

Honest is because there’s no threats yeah I mean the UK was just such a place in the that what is it the 80s or something they got rid of all the guns finally there was one school shooting in Scotland wasn’t there that was the the motivation the reason you can do that is

Because you know there’s no threats in the wilderness therefore there’s no like solid gun lobby to actually stop it yeah but if all of a sudden everyone is like hm yeah but if I go outside the hungry hungry era trains might come then I kind

Of kind of need my battle rifle back and uh this like I mean what one thing that the government could do which would be good is literally just offer a ransom like or offer a reward for every Big Cat shot because Farmers still have shotguns so for every to shoot foxes

Stuff so for every cat shot they’re alive five grand well probably not five grand I mean how many are there yeah yeah yeah well they they think that might be up to 250 of these reading so um and of course what people like what are they eating well deer and livestock

At the but yeah I mean one thing the government could do is put a bounty on them frankly which would be awesome don’t like it I want my country decide to be safe when I’m walking out with my kids don’t I have to take a gun with me actually be appreciated that

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48 Comments

  1. I’m the early 90’s down in Kent my entire family (in two cars) saw a large black cat, estimated to be the size of a leopard 🐆 but with ears like a lynx. I never understood the scepticism, people acted like we spotted Bigfoot! 😂 Many exotic animals were released over the years.

  2. Big cats to exist in the UK however the majority turn on what people say they are because black cats are a melanistic and super rare so i doubt we have the most recording of them considering there a genetic defect

  3. Spend my life hanging in a hammock in the woods and never seen a big cat. Wierd hiw oeople always see a black panthers, you cant have black ones without spotted equivalent as they are just a rare variant

  4. I know of at least 3 people who all seen similar looking big cats in the same area in Scotland near Edinburgh about 15-20 years ago, person 1 was driving home from work and it ran across the road. Months later person 2 was lamping for rabbits in the field next to the road person 1 uses to go to work and spotted it with his lamp(yellow eyes).
    Person 3 had some sheep killed and it definitely wasnt a dog.

  5. Okay, fine. If bigfoot exists, I'll start trying to find the sound that melts rocks and flats them into pyramids. If the firmament exists, I'll join a brothood of monks.

    I'm about 40% on these DMT elves now. Maybe, like orks, objective reality only existed when we believed in it.

  6. I think it's our version of the yeti and when people want to prove their theory people get creative. I want to see clear footage with audio and with enough of an angle that we can prove the location is real on Google maps 😅 it's like ufos are always filmed in America but never somewhere random like Argentina or Poland as if aliens are only interested in scouting America. Farmers have gun licences to kill foxes so shoot one and then come back because if there's no bodies or bones from the 60s to now I call it bollocks

  7. The idea of suppressing something the public will never understand goes along way back. I am guessing you guys know about the "cattle mutilation" saga from the 1940s and 50s in the US. Many farmers in America found their cattle dead with the internal organs cleanly removed from a perfect hole cut in the anus. Ridiculous excuses were given. It was wild animals or disease, neither of which would've left such cleanly cut incisions. As I understand it, the American army investigated these reports for years and then eventually buried the report as "nothing to see here move along".

  8. Me and a friend walked out late at night to ditsworthy Warren, dartmoor. My flashlight lit up something still and low in the field just before the house, with wide eyes, green/yellow. We had a long way back to the car.

  9. My father knew the couple who had released the initial 2 Black pumas into the wild. I believe if I remember correctly, the story goes something like he was doing business for them through Barclays finance as a rep and then one day they mentioned to him that they were having pressure concerning the large collection of pumas mountain lions and other cats and that they had been hit with extremely large fees that the government knew they had no way of paying the couple one day Upton left and left no forwarding address and all of the cats seem to just disappear they live very close to Bodmin Moor!

  10. Yes, Sargon, that is exactly the same with Bodmin Moor, and that confirms that my father was telling the truth that the people not only released the cats, but also up and moved😂

  11. Seen one 30 plus years ago running up a old forest road , about the size of a alsation but abit longer , black as coal ,I 💩 my pants , that was in South wales in Rhondda Valley and it was running real fast and hardly any noise across the ground ! 2 of us seen it and no one believed us , only a few years ago a mate said he'd seen one aswel so they are about in rural and big forest areas !!

  12. In 2009 I was Railway Signalling at Todmorden . At about 4 AM I walked up the rail line toward the town when I saw a Black cat about Labradore size> It took no notice of me for about 20 seconds then slowly walked away!…Me? 76 Ex RN Warton Lancs

  13. I love the logic of this video, it goes:
    1 People are Awful
    2 There ARE big majestic cats in England
    3 The cats are being big cats
    4 The government should pay people to kill them
    😂😂😂

  14. Just to add.. much of myth history has been hidden so not to cause panic when it comes to Bigfoot, Cats etc etc.. Not many know of the truth about Werewolves unless you are going to put deep research in them, lets face it no one wants to hear these beasts exist yet they truly do. I had a face to face encounter with what i called a Werewolf in 1975 it had hock legs like a dog and a long snout, nothing like what is portrayed in many films and myth history yet they are real and it took me over 40 odd years to talk about it in full. I have suffered greatly from this terrifying encounter which took place in UK one evening in 1975, Not make up or a man in a suit. I was nearly 14 yrs old and no not drunk, not seeing things. I have learned now being old and researching for years there are thousands witnessing them around the world yet they call it a Dogman but a real werewolf.. not sure why they named it that because nothing about these beasts represent a man other than the hands. Of course there will always be some making it up just to be on someone's show or for attention etc but a note to spot the truth in many is to hear there fear when they talk about them. I still have trouble talking about that dreadful evening yet i would take any lie detector.

  15. I lived in a fairly remote area in scotland. One night i was out walking the dogs before bed. I heard something pacing along closeby. When i stopped i could hear it back & forth. Big enough to crack undergrowth and sticks. I grabbed the dogs and got inside. Next day out riding my horse i found the carcass of a young dear which had clearly been mauled and partially eaten. Did i report it. Course not. Be the focus of ridicule? Just made sure i was careful at night.

  16. Me, my uncle and our dog were just coming back from a walk in an area surrounded by foliage and trees. Among a few bushes to the left of us crept away a massive, bulky animal with pure black coating. We just saw the back end of it (charming) but we know damn well that wasn't a dog. It was HUGE.

    I have a great love for biology and the lot. Macro-biology is my best. I can easily tell the difference between a dog and cat anytime. What we saw among those plants was definitely some sort of large feline. I may be 15, but I am not stupid.

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