Following last week’s show ‘Is The Bike Industry In Big Crisis?’, where we spoke on the global bike shortage during the Covid pandemic and how cycling companies are again facing uncertain times in 2023, we received a lot of comments from people saying that it’s because the price of the bikes being too expensive. But is this the case? Are bikes simply too expensive? – In the news we check out the all-new YT Jeffsy Mk3, the Cotic Jett, updated models from Devinci, and a new light from Magicshine.
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Hello welcome to this week’s gmbn Tech show I’m Neil Donahue and I’m own the bik nerd and this week we sort of following up on last week’s show that was really popular but he talking about is the bike industry in trouble this week fall off saying are mounting bikes
Too expensive but we’ve also got the new YT jefc a new CTIC and not one but two new Da Vinci okay so last week we were talking about some massive companies in the bike industry um in financial difficulties so the news has progressed now we’ve got chain cycles and wiggle have’ gone into
Administration they’re still selling bikes but into Administration and actually there’s lots of people in the comments uh saying that is’s bikes have got too expensive and actually some kind of very popular comments there mark sandal his comment has 380 thumbs up and he says the bike industry scaled
Consumers with bike prices increasing up to 50% over the last few years now consumers have had enough and are not buying new bikes instead we’ll just keep riding the bike we have I’m not feeling sorry for the bike industry so a popular comment you know some people are saying
They’re thinking about giving up mountain biking because it’s too expensive as well but it’s kind of it feels like it’s a much deeper argument I mean I don’t disagree with what you’re saying by any means but I think there’s a lot going on with the economies have bikes become too
Expensive let’s start with trying to answer that question what do you think Owen well I mean I think I think yeah the top end bikes have definitely got more expensive like there’s no doubt that that ceiling of where is I know 10 years ago you you got a five grand bike
It was something custom and no one else would have and that ceiling’s like progressively moved up and up and I think Isaac did a good show where he created a 20 22 G bike which is the price of a really good car so there has been escalation and inflation that
Wouldn’t have been possible you know no just a few years ago I don’t think I remember when I started riding it was like you know 2,000 3,000 P bike was the best that you could buy as even piecing them together like sort of is it did the
Custom build you would have your dream bike and that is obviously that was a while ago but it certainly feels like we’re talking you know car money yeah I think I think what’s also happened though is the top end has has kind of gone yeah there’s been exponential
Explosion of pricing and I think there’s almost like an arms race to get that that high end price but I think actually low-end bikes yes there’s been in a kind of an inflation of bike prices but you can get some really good bikes for the money now
So I think technology really come on too particularly now if you’re looking at chain R Cycles the bargain that are going now that’s kind of the knock on effect that I know people in bike shops are worried about that all of a sudden the market again is flooded which cheap
Bikes which is good for the consumers I mean is this going to sort of reset the pricing of some bike brands where na bikes so cheap is it going to be a middle ground where everything settles that I find that hard to believe I don’t
Know you know it’s a it’s a question of Economics as much as it is bike sort of Industry pricing I suppose yeah yeah it is and and it’s a broader I guess a broader picture like it’s not just bikes by themselves cuz we’ve seen you know post pandemic metal prices and shipping
Cost so shipping cost my understanding was that for lots of Economist shipping was just zero like they didn’t add it as a price to any kind of transactional things then all of a sudden it went up from this kind of like base figure of zero to this huge figure of law we’ve
Got to factor in shipping costs I feelig like one of the quotes from one of the founders of stram I think it was during the pandemic or just post pandemic was that he wish he invested in a shipping boat to to ship stuff from from their vendors in Taiwan because they’d got
Product they just couldn’t ship it because the shipping costs are exponential so I think it is this bigger impact of a ramp up of everything’s gotten more expensive shipping’s got more expensive you would see that in other Industries as well it wouldn’t be limited I mean I’ve heard same things
From people who I know who work in magazine industries that they’re selling less magazines but the cost has doubled so the cost in in raw materials to do this yeah and this is all having KnockOn effect I think ironically actually as much as we can jump in you know on the
Neck of the bike brands and selling these super expensive companies actually we’re getting victims all across the we Isa bikes in the UK they were sort of real Visionary people when it came to building really good kids bikes with great levers that were made for kids yeah they are wrapping up they’re not
Selling producing any more bikes very sad but also someone like vtus who you know part of the W wiggle chain R company that you know make some very good value bikes they’re very very good value at the moment exceedingly good value yeah but they’re also getting their victims of this sort
Of uh the economic downturn should we say but if you’re after a bargainous bike at the moment I guess now has been the best time for a few years at least to go out there and buy one yeah another popular comment from last week’s show from nog in the NOG says when the
Industry normalized bikes cost in as much as a decent used car there’s only one end point there not enough people that kind of money to support the industry I think that’s a really interesting point actually because you know gmbn Towers we film in a place bath
Very aent part of the UK and you go and stand outside and you’ll see Ferraris and Bentley and Porsches every day you know of the week so there are people that will always buy those top end bikes that cost crazy money but now is the time wonder if there’s going to be like
A Renaissance in sort of trickle down technology where the the average users bik it just is better the time we saw that I suppose yeah I think so and I feel like you know some of the like suspension systems have got Ultra complicated at the top tier but maybe
There’s a time now for kind of yeah simpler systems that work I feel like with with gears um with Shimano especially you’ve got like the deal range is you can get it in a 10 speed and it’s it’s awesome yeah like the 10 speed does last a bit longer there’s
Also Shimano Q’s but I think yeah hopefully there is it’s the start maybe ni Rel I think you’re right it’s it’s there already it doesn’t get shouted about as much as the fanciest M spensive kit but it’s there and you can get great bikes at a good value price already and
Hopefully you know those bikes are going to keep people or get new people into mountain biking yeah which is key and Now for Something Completely Different yes if you do have the money and you want some new bikes well we’ll talk about the budget versus well but of
Course it’s GM texture we talk about the new kit and there is a new YT jeffc Mark iiii so got five sizes two frame materials 29er uh their Progressive V4 L suspension design it’s got 145 rear travel the 150 Fork some tweaks of geometry as well reach is growing by 5
Mil across all size not a huge differen in but growing chain SE lens ni 437 for sizes small to large and 442 for XL to double XL seat angle maintains uh 77° uh across the average of the frame sizes the 65 head angle also flip chip allows
8 mil of bottom bracket uh height adjustment stash in the down tube top end on this is 599 uh for the core five but there is lucky a 2,499 version dollars and Euros up there and that cheap version comes with the rockot lyric and theam NX e as well so
There’s some that trick yeah that seems yeah exactly that seems like pretty good value you’ve got the same kinematics as the top tier bike nice geometry obviously we’re getting longer and longer still um but yeah that’s good value hey get involved in comments well should we be shaped in more about the
Lower end bues we’d love to hear your comments on that definitely get involved I know you will you did last week but definitely get involved this week’s one right and next up is the IC jet so 140 mil uh 150 mil Fork allrounder um it’s got their long shot geometry so they’ve
Got five different lengths um so kind of geometry changes but essentially that seat tube stays roughly the same so you can play with what reach you’d like versus having to compromise other bits of fit and I guess the most exciting part is that the front triangle made in
The UK which I think is really nice um so it’s a a big effort to reduce their carbon footprint and talking about carbon it is made from steel um so yeah really really interesting I think on that front steel is the lowest impact material anyway of the popular options
The Reynold impact report showed the only ways they could considerably reduce C impact to their material was to reduce the air rate that’s interesting yeah made in the UK steel uh and then made I think up in Scotland with feland bikes they’re making the front end so really interesting stuff um similar droplink
That they’ve used for a while now um so yeah nice and Progressive is mind standing frame only prices at 22 uh 2,200 complete bikes are starting at 4225 so that’s in pounds so not the cheapest but made in the UK and steel so should last a long long time I wonder if
There’ll be people looking for those upgrad S frame kit frame for Kit options yeah interesting couple new bikes from Da Vinci now as well they got a Troy carbon uh interesting SC is now updated with the udh hanger so options to run some fancy samam transmission if you do
Have the pound notes to do that yeah 29er front and rear 140 rear travel 154k talking about those numbers quite a lot me uh aggressive geometry with size specific chain S Lance and long reaches on all sizes available in uh gloss green golden matte and Neapolitan pink they
Are $5,099 us plus they’ve got an aluminium Trail hardel called the cobane again modern geometry 29er with generous clearance and through a front and rear um sort of Trail and single track bike uh made out of aluminium 130 mil Fork uh again gloss and green goals starting at
1449 us which seems pretty good value yeah yeah I like the pricing on that uh and talking about things that are lighting things up we’ve got magic shine they’re introducing a new light uh the montier 12 is that 12,000 12,000 Shivers okay so it’s it’s a five high powerered LED
12,000 loomin light which I yeah is that is that correct is that how many zeros yes wow okay that’s um so it’s got two distinct beam patterns of flood light and a spotlight uh and lots of customization via an app which I’ve got to say makes lots of sense I’ve had
Other lights where you’ve got to click a single button through lots of different phases and it’s a bit of a nightmare so having an app I think it would be a good idea wireless remote also nice no fiddling um and a 14.4 Vol 10,000 amp battery pack that sounds like a monster
To be fair um oh my God again is that a typo no 121 hours of run time Shivers no one wants to ride in the dark that long uh I don’t know Rich maybe maybe he needs it for his next 24hour race do one
I know in the dark he’s done one k broke him didn’t it right um so USBC for fast charging yeah uh and who is it Blake and Anna took him out for spin up Forest just last week in gmbn news we are launching our first have a book and it’s
Called the gmbn’s essential mountain bike maintenance book so there are 70 walkthroughs to look after your B with the company in video as well little QR link so if you want to see the video click on that and you can see it so brilliant way to learn how to look after
Your bike uh expert advice from all of us here about how to look after your bike made it be it Trail and Juro down All Slopes all across country and do mention the first 250 copies will be signed by the gmbn team as well so get yourself involved and pre-order this
Book if you want to learn how to look after your bike okay random fact is Marine Hall of Fame Mountain B Hall of Fame uh some people have been invited or or got their legendary indu oh that’s the right term thank you uh one of them
Is Palmer we could have a whole episode I think I’m Sean Palmer legendary Rider change the face of the sport jetl fully um another one of these legendary amazing gamechanging people is uh M lwell yeah so he designed us supension system quite a while ago on a Gary
Fisher bike so Gary Fisher I think was probably one of the well one of the icons of the sport and he quickly realized that suspension would be really good in the bike and he developed a carbon front end L wheel rear rear end bike I think only a couple handful Gary
If you’re out there let us know a handful were made he also made some with alloy front ends but yeah la bikes they’re really amazing famous for On Any Sunday as well you must have seen the flat track racer he did all that I think didn’t he and I rode a Schwin straight
With a lill link lill l yeah good uh yeah the random fact I guess that’s that’s it that fiser and lwell bade a really amazing suspension bik way way way back so there we go random Fact okay we we got some more comments from last week following the same themes really Craig best says really hope mute proof of and vas’s come through this both brands bikes that I’d like to own at some point CRC is convenient but I’m sure it’ make more people use their
Local bike shops instead of online I sort of continue with the next comment from AMT who says it definitely seems like shops are already starting to struggle so I’ve know a friend of mine just closed this shop just this week are going to see this sort of come down to
Struggling Bike Shop level as well yeah I mean I I I feel like a lot of bike shops were struggling preco and sort of pre pandemic um and sort of pandemic gave him a life I think some smarter shops are able to utilize that and kind of like re angle their business because
I think the way that bikes have been sold has has changed a lot with direct consumer Brands and and online um and yeah I do feel sorry for a lot of bike shops because um yeah they’re they’re sort of like a point of information and obviously a resource for some people and
That’s fantastic but that resource that knowledge has to sort of get paid for to a degree and I think fortunately it’s just yeah yeah there a lot of shops have sort of pivoted towards service and yeah and hopefully you know if there’s more cheap bikes on market then more people
Will need their bike servicing as well so hope they can weather the storm I’ve always thought there should be like a sitcom filmed you know set in a bike shop there so many characters yeah there are the workshop guy the salesman that’s been there since school and now 60 years
Old and hates bikes and doesn’t ride bikes no I always find that quite fun there’s people who work in bike shops that don’t like bikes see that yeah anyway change of subject baz broom says just want to say what a great addition to channel Owen is very knowledgeable
And is natural in front of the camera there you go uh thank you thank you for your comments I’m not that natural I’m quite nervous quite sweaty and I think the wig takes a lot well not so many comments about hair this week they were distracted by the cost of of bik system
It’s not a wig just FYI so yeah it’s all my own thanks Mom and Dad right we’re going to head into the bik cave keep sending them in I know that many recently but we love looking at your bike caves and we’re we are heading over to Peter’s bike cave check it out he got a road bike hanging off
The wall one of those hip lock I’ve seen those hang where you lock the bike in yeah no good security rowing machine I’ve got a rowing machine in the garage not been used a lot recently there you go so uh P says over the Christmas uh
Plus summer break got around doing up my shed it’s actually shed double brick T roof uh it’s big so he’s uh lined in well he’s actually inserted up of it pretty good yeah he’s got he’s got a a turbo trainer bike there in the corner or like a pelaton type bike that looks
Pretty good um the sof of shoe rack are quite quite like that I might have to Nick that idea plus all the racking for all the boxes uh loads of stuff in there bit of a tool wall stashed away there and some nice tool box very organized I feel like
That’s yeah some service courses should look like that I bought myself a a tool cabinet the other week so now I’ve got my tool box on top of the cab cabet oh very good yeah enjoying that actually it’s a bit you know I need to going to
Go down the you know the fo going to do the foam Shadow yeah I think I will though now I put it all in there it seems like quite a big job to do that but I just got too many tools that was my problem if I did the shadow foam do
You have a tools and B tools like keep your good tools of the nearest ones and then your B tools can be more kind of like the Allen keys and tools that you use all the top in the second draw cuz that’s kind of like the the second
Biggest one effectively as in or like the top draw is very slim can’t fit many alen keys in there and then I’ve got yeah I guess a b and then not use that much also because if I pull it open I’ll knock everything off the work toop so Oh
You mean that’s just me being messy it I’ve actually got C to I inherited someone an old family friend had a motorbik back in day and all these tools that’s too good I’m not going to use them very often but I’m going to keep them yeah nice yeah what flooring was in
This one looks so vinyl to me oo uh I know two pack of pain sorry sorry Peter have you decided yeah have you Deed on you taking easy option and going for something like vinyl okay right uh I guess yeah what are your comments for best shed flooring
Uh and garage bike cave flooring we need to know I’m pulling back on my ideas they’re reducing in size rescaling yeah okay anyway that’s it for this week’s Tech show get involved like you did last week we love reading your comments and they are have been super interesting as
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What do you think about the value of bikes? Do you think bikes are too expensive? 💬 – What are your suggestions for the best Bike Cave flooring?
Seeing these bikes on ridiculous sales is all i need to know how bad some of these markups are. I went ahead and got a Marin rift zone 1 for 1400USD and even THAT murdered my wallet for the rest of the year. My main problem i find is the mid-low range of bikes that are in the 1000-2500USD range having super frail parts that dont last at all, and frankly shouldn't even be on the trail sometimes. After buying my rift zone i have replaced bent broke and fixed about every single part of it and now it's considered a rift zone 20😂 the flagship dentist bikes are mainly built to last while the mid-low range bikes feel like a cash grab. for those getting into the sport it's not a good first impression. I love my Marin and it was a great price but low level components suck so bad on these affordable bikes and they're not THAT cheap in the main scheme of things.
yes, they are. no question about that
Rewind seems to have gone together with Doddy, no?
Shockingly expensive, poor customer service, kids working in shops with no manners, etc. Why dirt bike tires are cheaper compared to mountain bike tires? Too many distrubutors… Why brake pads on my truck cost less compared the one on my bike? I hope the bike industry collapse and stores/manufactures go bankrupt so the market adjust.
The top end has certainly moved up very high; bikes seemed to top out at £5k for ages but we’re suddenly in a place where people are charging £15k with a straight face.
It seems like entry level bikes aren’t quite as good value as they were; a Rockhopper was a solid entry level hardtail and used to present good value for money. In the early 2000’s we used to sell loads; there was one model at circa £800 with an XT rear mech, decent forks and brakes.
When I was looking for a second hardtail three or four years ago, I was surprised badly spec’d bikes were for a grand or so; rubbish forks, poor tyres, cheapy Shimano brakes with the massive levers. The Vits I ended up with was a solid spec with Z2’s, Schwable tyres and proper brakes.
This video covers exactly where I am right now. I ordered my Vitus Escarpe 290 CRX from CRC last Saturday to be delivered to the U.S. Yes, still pricey even being on sale but the value/specs to price couldn't be beat. I do worry it might not be delivered, still processing. Credit card has my back if they don't deliver. I already have my second choice lined up which is the new Jeffsy Core 3 if CRC doesn't work out. Just really don't want to pay 1.5K more though.
Way too expensive. No doubt. I’ve been saying this for years, if the MTB industry continues with this non sense they will kill the sport the way water skiing is dead now. Mark my words.
There are loads of cheaper bikes available. Second hand of course are silly cheap. The expensive bikes often have electronic shifting etc which no one even needs anyway so imo bikes can be bought for good prices.
It seems the manufacturers are indead greedy because you pay more for the parts on a new bike then seperate parts. They ask redicules prices for the frames and i can know because i bought a carbon hardtail frame forthe basic price because the old one broke. I bought the new hardtail carbon bike 2018 for 1200€ with xt groupset and now the identical frame with deore brakes and sx groupset costs 1650€. If i’m looking for a carbon fully with medium grade gx axs (that had a serious price drop) i'm looking @ a jaw dropping 4000€ or more. Nobody with average family and a average european income can afford themselfs that kind of bike. This sport/hobby is for the elite 😢
There are a lot of sale items from older components. You can build up a mountainbike with high end components from 2015 for 2000€. It might doesn't have Boost, UDH, internal cable routing. But you can save at least 5000€.
Built my dream hardtail for less than a grand… second hand bike and fox forks, rest of it new stuff. It’s fantastic and I ride it all the time, you don’t need to spend a fortune to have fun. My 26 dual sus commencal meta still rocks too. And yes, please review more affordable products in general, I’m poor and love mountain biking, but make do with what I can afford and have just as good a time.
I can barely afford to get mine professionally serviced and buy new bits
The light is an eye watering $799 cad …. 😬
Bike prices?
Biggest issue I see, is that you buy a mid range mountain bike then have to upgrade, headset, BB, rear wheel straight away, as they last about a week of decent riding due to poor specification from brand names.
I recently bought a Norco Fluid FS A2, and the above parts are cheaped out, and have crapped out almost instantly. I can't believe you pay decent money, and get a garbarge freehub body and wheel that can't handle 6 roots and rocks. That's the dissapointing thing.
Real issue is, if you pay another 1000 dollars, those same parts aren't any better, you only get a suspension and drivetrain upgrade for the money.
I think Owen hit the nail on the head when he said the real explosion in prices is on the top end….but this is supporting the lower-mid end where the margins are thin, and it is mostly idiot tax – some of the top end bikes actually cost 1000’s more than the sum of the rrp of the components.
I have to agree with Owen. At the £/$1000 price point you get very capable hardtails. While things like droppers, super forks, wireless all help, the improvements are very small in my opinion compared to the cost. Therefore I don't think it is too expensive.
I think a lot of the "improvements" are being pushed by the industry and media, such as wireless gears, auto gears etc which are just completely unnecessary, over engineered and fragile, so I don't feel sorry for them either.
Yes they are. And there is not much technology in bikes. There is just really good marketing,🤭😉
Tbh a ht for around the 1k price range is a belting bike and a fs for around 2k max will serve you well enough I've got a cannondale trail 3 2019 29er and a boardman team fs from 2016 both do me proud
My Niner Jet9Rdo was the best of the best in 2012 would have cost $7500cnd my 2018 Trek Fuel ex project one is an xt build kinda step down from top spec but cost was the same.
Now I will be down to slx or Deore for the same price point. No way I’m spending over $10,000 on a mountain bike😢
TLDR: Are bikes too expensive?
YES
When you buy a bike, you might as well take the seat off and sit on the post so you continue to get the great experience you got paying for the damn thing.
Guys, are you that far our of touch? Is GMBN really paying you that much that today's bike releases you just announced seem at all reasonable? AUD$5,000 (2500 pounds) should be the price of a high- highish-end dualie, not entry level. Until the industry stops being so greedy you are in for massive shrinkage of your market (and that includes GMBN, sadly)
In Germany all the bike shops just sell bikes without having a lot of knowledge. And the ones with knowledge just repair the bikes they sold in the fist place. I don’t want them complain now if people do maintain there own bike. And to be honest apart from truing wheels you can do everything by yourself
Yeah, amazing price insanity. I saw one bike's specifications go virtually unchanged from 2017-2021, yet its price went from $1800 to $2500 during that period of time. One change, it went from 11-speed to 12-speed and the mech was within the same model tier. So, it's not just top-end bikes seeing this price lunacy.
– # of players/mfgs. up; so many bikes! – Taxes – Healthcare costs(US) – Building Leases/ ownership ponzi – Plain-ole Greed – Supply & Demand – Complexity of Tooling and R&D
– Resource supply & demand – Controlling Asia mfg. epicenter – travel – engineers – middlemen /mfgs with strict MAP guidelines that prevent resellers from more frequent sales – sponsorships – marketing and advertising – boss hogs – non-stop inflation push – charitable contributions…
I got my road bike at a flea market l thank I paid $60 for it. It needs a little TLC but it's a pretty good bike
Why don't you guys cover the dirty practices and scumbaggery that occurs in bike shops upon innocent and ignorant newbies That results in people being determined enough to learn the skill on their own and fix whatever they need because they don't trust those people anymore and they were robbed by them and they were even lied to for profit…
Listening to this show, talking about the down turn and the hike in bike prices, I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but we are in a situation where the market has been flooded with bikes and that everyone who wanted a bike now has one! I've said this in other videos.
Since COVID, there was a MASSIVE increase in people wanting to ride bikes, and it was a case that bikes couldn't be built quick enough, and as the demand was high, prices went up also massively.
Now we have reached that point. Those who could buy a bike or afford the higher end bikes have now got those bikes. As a bike generally lasts around 5 years, we're in that mid point. And as the market has been flooded, again there is a huge number of bikes going now where. Give it another 3 to 4 years, and the market will bounce back high again….
The pandemic really allowed companies to "capitalise" on their relative positions and price higher because that's capitalism 101: price at what you can get away with. Now that the majority of us aren't in lockdown, consumers are voting with their wallets again because they can now also vote with their feet and shop elsewhere.
But I don't feel it's just pricing – it's a huge part of it but not the only thing – there's also the increased diversity of bike types. Add to this the emergence of eBikes and their variations and nuances and we now have a growing storm of complexity and incompatibility across the types that makes DIY/bike shop maintenance more complicated. When people used to resort to hybridising a MTB to do many tasks, they now have a more custom purpose bike instead e.g. cargo bikes.
I think it'll take some more time for the surviving bike companies to reorganise themselves and work out just where the bike market is heading.
Answer : yes ! Like everything nowadays sadly …
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I recently built up a 2023 Trek Supercaliber with a full 2023 XTR drivetrain and race brakes. My issue is with the drivetrain. In all gears there is a vibration thru the drivetrain under load. It feels like there are bearings grinding somewhere. I’ve removed the chain and checked the bb bearings and they are silky smooth. I’ve checked the rear hub and freehub bearings and all smooth. Also checked the jockey wheels and they are smooth as well. All components are brand new Shimano XTR. Are Shimano 1x drivetrains known to have this issue?
They aren’t “getting” expensive, they have been too expensive for a while. Now that CR, Wiggle, NP, etc.. are going into disolvency maybe some other brands will get the hint. Hopefully a few more brands go out of business. I’d like to see brands start making stuff affordable for normal humans. If not, good riddance
1000€ these days buys you a fit for purpose bike with a fork that actually works, gears that shift under a reasonable amount of load and brakes that work on anything but ews/wc dh tracks. Anyone who’s been around for over 15 years knows this wasn’t exactly the case back then. My first mtb was a 2002 scott expert racing, the frame was a piece of art but literally everything hung off it just sucked, the brakes didn’t work in the wet, the forks stopped “working” after two weeks and the triple 11-32, 22 32 44 gearing worked but clunked like hell without a clutch and a big rattly front deraileur. People really don’t realise how good beginner bikes are these days.
Yes. But its comllicated. I think socual media channels like Youtube have normalised an idea that everyone should be riding a 5k+ bike. Also modern bikes are so specialised that you effectively need a car to get to the trails you want to ride, unless you live down the road from a trail head or centre. And the offshoot of that specialisation is you now need 3 or more bikes to suite the days ride. Its no wonder 'gravel' has taken off. 1 bike to do everything ok…
Yeah there expensive, but still great deals to be had! I just bought a brand new EBike it came Saturday not had a chance to get out on it yet as had to buy new pedles for it as non with them, i think this is stupid even a set £20 rubbish to get you going would be good!
Sadle my own choice to buy a WTB as one with it no bigger than an iphone! im bigger guy so was kinda swallowed up 😂 at 17st, but yeah hoping to loose abit on it! Its the 2023 Cube 160 Action team £2k off in sale just now so was saving up and was just at the right price of £4480 when was looking at them. I started seeing reviews on this bike and all its spec's it so was like that's the one for me! I looked at loads for a few months on here and all over YouTube and settled on the cube stereo 160 Action team with its 170mm fox 38s and 160mm rear float and 27.5 wheel's! As I've not been on a bike for 20 years when had bad DH accident, smashed collar bone and dislocated right shoulder and it kept popping back out months in to recover so had to start all over again! But since watching these video's and other's its really made me want back on the bike so thanks to YouTube reviews having all these fantastic video's im now back on the bike! Well nearly still waiting on the frame wrap and pedles coming! But icy anyway so not risking a stupid avoidable injury to me and the bike! But carbon frame and bars totally different to my Atx two and kona stinky! Im also for the first time really I'm looking for a helmet! That itself is a big thing as a 90s kid its just something never done till early 2000s amd started using a full face on the DH but that didn't live long as had the accident the same year!
Happy new year to you all 2024 let it be a great year for all!
I do wndwr if the high prices of bikes will kill new bike enthusiast, same with road cycling, probably will. Thryll look at the price , the over tech and walk the other way
Yes they are ridiculous in price, when you in this episode says, "ooh it's good value there" it realy does sound like the most fake respons ever, you whould never ride them soo why should we? Cuzz we have to, you dont, plz add some value bikes also, not only 5K and above.