Here is an easy way to assess the correct bend or curve speed. I also explain SSV, Safety, stibility, view.
Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction
0:13 Short version
1:31 Ssv
1:50 Limit point
2:01 Example
2:15 Closing example
3:02 Planning for last bend
3:05 Wait till you see tarmac
4:25 Car coming… safety
4:55 Straightlining
5:30 SSV Pothole
6:02 Squirrel
7:05 Plan for last bend
7:16 Interrupted tarmac view
7:45 Chevrons
8:10 Watch again
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Hello everybody I just thought I’d do a quick upload just to explain an easy way of working out how severe a Bend is okay I’m going to sum up you speed for a corner in less than 5 seconds are you ready for this can you see around the corner no
Well slow down until you can it really is that simple and same with this one I can’t see around the corner bring it down until I can bring it down until I can bring it down until I can bring it down until I can bring it down until I can there it
Is look give that a Try there’s two things I’m going to be mentioning today one is going to be closing holding opening and the other one is going to be SSV now do remember when you’re doing your test the dvsa or the Department of Transport in the UK don’t necessarily expect you to be in an extreme position
Three to be looking around the corner if you do it and it’s safe it’s not the end of the world but they don’t necessarily deem you experienced enough to understand why you’re doing that so this is uh positioning for more advanced type riding so let’s have a look at closing
Holding and opening and SSV SSV is safety stability View and that’s the priority of your positioning around the corner or you’re planning around the corner or a Bend or a curve so closing holding opening we’re looking at the limit point I’ve explained this on a couple of uploads in
The past the limit point is the furthest part of the road you can see on your side of the road and the rule is you make sure you can stop in the distance you you can see to be clear on your side of the road so let’s have a look here
The limit point is at the moment starting to close there’s a big lorry there’s SSV safety first then stability then view so let’s have a look at this left-hander it’s very very tight you can see it’s closing look closing closing closing closing gear closing closing closing holding opening a Bend always
Closes holds and then opens and it can sometimes close Again so SSV at the moment safety stability view the last Bend we’re looking at is a left hander look so that’s holding at the moment so I can hold my speed it’s opening so I can open the speed and then closing means you need to close your speed or your throttle so
Close throttle hold throttle open throttle so I’m doing the speed limit which is 50 my last Bend I’m planning for is a left hander now there’s a right hander at the very very end but I can’t see the TAC so I’m going to stay here until I can see the toac because there
Could be potholes oil animals there it is look checking in mirrors over to one watch out for that SSV again holding one until I see the last Bend here it is now that Bend’s closing a little bit so I’m just closing the speed it’s holding now it’s opening so I
Can open next Bend is closing holding it was opening but now it’s holding now it’s opening now it’s holding now it’s closing closing holding holding holding holding opening opening opening now the Chevrons here these are usually placed on um corners or bends where there have been known to be accidents in the past
So if you see these Chevrons warning you of a tightening Bend you need to heed the warning opening opening opening holding opening opening holding closing so I’m closing closing closing until it opens there we go look open now I can open my last Bend is a right-hander so I’m staying over here
So I can see the T back in the middle first here comes a car safety stability View you make sure that you position for safety first then you position for stability then you position for view closing closing closing closing holding holding holding looking at the road surface holding opening
Opening opening opening now I got a gear on there I could have done with going down a gear but fortunately my bike can take it now here I’m going to straight line this I’m in position three over to one checking my mirrors lifting my head it’s opening opening opening
Opening position for safety SSV because of the flood bring him down a little bit because it was closing okay it’s holding now I’m at the speed limit anyway holding holding opening but I can’t open opening warning sign of ice I know it’s not icy today now it’s close closing look so I’ve got
To close close holding that’s my correct speed then if it’s holding at the correct speed SSV there was a PO hole there so I move my positioning and again another po hole s safety stability view if I go over that pot hole safety and stability have been
Compromised so my first thing is safety there’s a mush on the road there over to three for the left hand view closing holding now I can see the UN interrup to Tac over we go to one staying in one the last Bend here’s a squirrel look just going to watch him come on
Fella come on fella and I did check my mirrors before this shows how much you should be reading the road it’s not just squirrels if you want to kill a squirrel that’s up to you but I don’t but try something like a deer when you’re doing 80 mph around the blind Bend
Then you’re in trouble aren’t you so I’m in about third gear at the moment and you can see I’m around a third of morev range which is okay it’s nice and responsive so I think I’ll stay in third now so the bend is holding holding opening opening so I can open Crossroads
Safety stability view down the crossroads off we go and we’re com to a national speed limit now which is a 60 so checking my mirrors off we go and I’ll need fourth gear Now staying this position till I see my last Bend always plan for your last Bend provided you can see un interrupted T mag so there’s my speed my last Bend is a rander but excuse me there’s an element of uh road that I couldn’t see
There an area of Road staying in one the limit point is holding so the speed’s correct holding holding holding opening over to three for the view safety is there stability is there and view is there mirrors Side Road warning sign closing a little bit so I’m closing holding now so
My speed’s correct holding holding holding holding now it’s going to close because I got chevron’s long over to position one safety stability the holding now holding holding opening bring it up closing closing so I have to close my throttle closing closing holding correct speed holding when you get to holding
You’re at the correct speed opening opening opening so I’d recommend that you watch this several times and you’ll understand what I mean if the bend is closing you close if the bend is holding you’re at the correct speed if the bend is opening you can start opening your throttle up
But it could immediately medely start closing again always be planning the bends and remember safety first then stability then view you get some Advanced Riders positioning for The View when there’s oncoming Vehicles they broken the rules safety has been broken feel free to comment like And subscribe and if there’s anything you
Want to add or anything you want to ask feel free to ask and watch this video over and over again so you can understand what that limit point means I’ll see you soon I’m just up for a coffee bye-bye
45 Comments
All done without idiotic trail braking. Amazed you survived without it, Russ.😱😁
It's such a simple an intuitive topic, yet I still learned a lot from watching this video!
So simple and easy to understand it’s almost foolproof. Another gem Russ thank you ☺️
His Russ I have been riding 46 years and your videos still intrigue me 😊and make me realise I am still learning. Happy new year.
Thank you.
Brilliant video, really. And happy 2024!
Great video there Russ!! Really helpful and simple to understand! Now to put it into more practice!!
Thank you!
An excellent demonstration and explanation of using the system to read and assess bends, I always recommend your's and Mike Roberts videos to associates, wishing you a Happy New Year and thanks for taking the time to make these excellent videos
Perfect explanation and examples. Thank you
Great video as usual, learned a lot here! Thank you!
Well explained and demonstrated. I've shared with my fellow observers and my allocated associates.
This really brought home the relationship between the bend closing and the bike's closing speed. Language is funny in that its all reversed, not just English, mind. I guess its a common trick of perception. We talk about a bend closing, holding, or opening but the bend is really just lying there not doing anything other than gathering potholes. Its really us riders that are closing in on the bend, holding our pace, or opening out the bend by slowing down. Great way to bring back agency to the rider. Shit doesn't just happen on a bike, we are the ones making it happen. And squirrels of course, the little bastards 😉
And this is typical of why I want my Grandson to learn with Russ!! I have a RoSPA Gold – doesn’t make me a good teacher…!
Another super lesson, it reinforces in my head what I've been doing for years. Well done 🤓
Great explanation of useful riding tips again. That squirrel said thanks by the way. 😁
I've watched many of you videos over the past few years.Its a shame instructors like you weren't about in the early sixties, perhaps many of the guys l knew back then would still be with us…We had to learn on the job so's to speak.
Motorcycles have advanced tremendously since my first tentative, wobbly ride on an Italian Bianchi. Tyres, brakes, suspension and chassis geometry all play a part in making riding a lot safer… The variable is, as always the riders brain and his/her ability to process whats going on around them….Great instructional video, even for old bikers like me. Because we can all profit from never stop learning… Like all things Motorcycling its a skill that constantly needs honing…Feliz Año Nuevo de España
Really enjoyed your explanation, It was very clear and easy to follow. Even though I've been riding daily since I passed my test in 1983 I was never totally comfortable that I was getting it right every time. I'll take your advice and watch it again. Thank you
Good stuff as always. Thanks Russ and all the best for 2024 😀
Just slow down
So much better than that motojitsu flop
Great video, thanks.
One situation I find frequently and not sure the best way to deal with it. When filtering between 2 lanes of traffic approaching traffic lights – then as I near the front of the queue, the lights change to green. Is it best to accelerate through, or try and awkwardly rejoin one of the lanes?
Thankyou!
Been riding for over half a century; still learning after all these years. Almost everything on this video I do but, most of the time, I don’t know I’m doing it. For me, the value of watching is relocating the muscle-memory to the brain where it gets rinsed ‘n washed then settles back to the muscles where it belongs. Well done – thanks!
Brilliant video! Gets straight to the point and easily rememberable
Excellent long and short videos👍
if you are riding like that they could say you are racing , if you are moving 1 – 3 you are just asking for the boy racer to push passed you and get run off the road unless you are going fast – racing you are riding on the road not the track
awesome video, thank you.
That was brilliant fella. I have been riding for 30+ years. I know that road very well and ride it exactly the same as you did. I have learnt to ride like yourself by experience. SSV has been my mantra. I just didn't know it. Derbyshire has millions of cyclists and even more quarry lorries. It alters the way you ride.
I tried advanced riding a few years ago and thought it was dangerous. So walked away. Nothing like what you just did.
Like all talented bikers u have a Pan. Good video.
Ridden that route a few times, and in the first few times I didn’t have this video to think of but I’ve ridden a few times “listening” t you talking me up it in my head! It’s a good one to think of your limit points, speed and positioning as you say. Plus with the quarries there can often be a lot of muck and water run off.
As usual Russ, there is always something new to learn from you. Great video
This is a great explanation. I’ve been trained to the highest level and used the techniques every day for over 20 years. After 43 years riding, I still make mistakes on every ride. In Wales recently, I took position 3 on a 180 degree closing bend in perfect riding conditions. A motor home came around the bend towards me with enormous mirrors which protruded onto my side of the road and I had to drop my head to one side to avoid it. Every time I get it wrong, it reinforces that safety over rides ever other aspect of your ride.
I have to admit, when I've gotten comfortable with corners I have charged them a bit, but fortunately I've still maintained the paranoia about what could be around there (such as officers with hand speed detectors). But riding with paranoia is tiring. I think of the speeds I saw some of my riding buddies going in the past, and I notice many of them don't even ride anymore. Perhaps they had one too many scares or couldn't trust themselves not to get suckered into competing with others. At any rate, it's a game I shouldn't play anymore.
It seems very basic, but having the SSV principle articulated is a big help, so I'll use that on my next ride. Cheers Russ.
As a side note, I'm impressed that ST1100 is still going so nicely. I remember asking you about them a while ago and I was tempted to try one, but sadly all the examples I've seen have been… craptacular, really. The last I saw had badly brown brake fluid. Though it was still better than the old FJR next to it, which had the worst case of suicide throttle I've ever felt – the stiffness was of moving it was nearly comparable to pulling Excalibur from stone.
This is such simple advice & should be obvious.I was caught out by a corner that tightened unexpectedly, the camber tipped away & the whole road level dropped! If I'd been pushing it at 10/10ths then even if I'd seen what was coming, I'd have been out of options. But I wasn't & had enough grip & reaction time to get around it, even if I was left shaken up.
Hello Russ, The head mechanic at out local Triumph /Honda dealer just found a buck in the middle of a turn .He is out of hospital now but the Goldwing is worse for wear and that is with 40 years on the saddle .. I had a close dance with a young un a few Autums back . Dear and traffic coming out of side roads and driveways always make me ultra alert … IS this road anywhere near Denby ? I do have to visit that pottery next time I get to the UK 🙂 and the Nottingham museum has some wonderful 13th century balister Jugs 🙂 . Thanks as always for this clip … We just got 8 inces of snow so it will be a few days before I can get out again on the bike …
Yours in New England , Guy
One of the best videos I've seen on bends – thank you
Simple, straightforward and understandable, excellent.
This is absolutely spot on. Very similar to that of The System of Car Control for emergancy reposonding. Great video 👍
You make it look easy, Russ.
Really appreciate your time and effort! This is brilliant – from an ongoing learner.
Actually it would be easier to do a track day with an experienced rider than mess about with public roads.
Btw if you cant see round the corner you do as a car driver would, apply caution. You cant go fast on public roads. You should know that. R
I’m starting on getting advanced training and your video brought everything together I’d been told about cornering in a perfect and simple way. Everything I’ve read now makes sense and it’s so easy the way you explained it. It was a penny drop moment for me when I went out and practiced it.. thank you 😊
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Of all the videos on cornering and bends that I have watched, this must be the jewel in the crown!
After several courses on safety and positioning over the years as well as motorcycle tour guide certification, this is the one reminder video that summarises everything I need to be looking for.
Basic concepts set out in a comprehensible fashion and explained through several minutes of examples with some hints for proper observation thrown in.
Russ, I will indeed be watching it over and over again.