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Pet big up El cart big up big up what’s up yeah man the link is there I’ve left links in flipping Twitter no no nobody wants to to to jump on the thing man I don’t know why that is I don’t know why that is it’s like
Yesterday all all that talk about that decision how many invites did I give up to come and let you say your point all right all right you’re saying that t t won the fight well get in the link you I mean there’s the link click the link get in here and let’s see
What you got to say and air it at mate gazi what’s good yeah they’ll jump on they’ll jump on what’s the topics well we know that Devin and ran is signed for April the 20th we know that you know what I mean we know that is signed that’s a good thing
Window right it would make sense if I had the drive up you know I knocked out one of my flipping H hard drives on my computer I’ve knocked out one of my hard drives I got go get s it out tomorrow morning flipping annoying bloody annoying I would do it myself but last
Time I flipping nearly W wiped it all out so I mean I have to get my breaden in it means so you know he told me don’t don’t try do no Tech work yourself you don’t know what you’re doing yeah yeah it’s all good it’s all good it’s all good
Um yeah it’s signed it’s signed it is signed iani matx that correct so um are you saying that the fight between Devin Haney and um get the headon let get the headphones ja can you repeat that please hello earli I heard you say that the fight between Haney and Garcia was signed oh
Yeah yeah yeah apparently it’s sad so this is like a um like not related to the fight but I watched a video about um B taking um turns on the punching machine and stronger than gar your mic is going in and out fight for some reason your mic is going
In and out I don’t know what that is it’s going in and out I don’t know what that is um okay yeah I had your video on in the background I think that’s the reason okay all right I can hear you now yeah so basically what I was saying
Was um I watched a video where Garcia and Haney were both um taking uh turns at the punching bag and uh Haney had a higher score than Garcia but then when you watch them fight it’s like it seems as though Garcia is the stronger puncher so I was just wondering why you think
That doesn’t transpa in the fights well that’s interesting that is interesting um I don’t know I really don’t know you know like when when did this happen where you saw them um hit in the back was that recent yeah no it was a few years ago I was watching it on
Instagram all right really don’t know well P punching power is a strange thing isn’t it like people say Deon can’t punch but I I don’t see nobody dropping their hands like airing their chin out like you know go crack me Deon a g to hurt me
I don’t see no one doing that so um you think it’s a case of like um he need just fought better competition that could be one factor could be one component definitely could um it could be that I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know sometimes you know what it is as
Well with punching power I’ve heard this from coaches it’s it’s the relaxation like some fights is they they they can hit hard but when they when they’re in a fight they try and get too much taught on their shot and they lose power they Lo the the the harder you try the more
Power you lose so it’s um it’s a it’s it’s a great point you bring up there but I guess that’s what why they say like oh don’t look for The Knockout maybe yeah yeah don’t load don’t load up don’t yeah yeah 100% don’t load up you
Know what I mean yeah yeah don’t you think it’s funny that um like the two top dogs at um like welterweight were uh Taylor and PR gr and now the supposed Four Kings the two that didn’t fight each other um they’ve gone up and they’ve beaten the like the old god of the
Likewe all right so say that again the old God was Taylor and PR yeah that was the old yeah and so these like two of the Four Kings that didn’t fight each other they went up and they beaten those do you think in the Fe the probably
Fight like well towe I though Deon Haney is more eager to make the fight than um Lopez is Devon and Tio is good yeah um well provided Deon can get pass Garcia you you would assume that that’s a natural that’s just a natural fight isn’t it you
Know but then again at the same time like um Tio could find himself frozen out because matum are in the process of signing subriel Matias yeah and there’s no way he’s going to sign to them and you’re you’re trying to make fights with Tio well the
Ibf champion is in the house he wants a fight he wants a unification he’s not he hasn’t come over to matum because he he wants to stare into Eddie’s eyes he wants them big fights yeah so um that fight might be bit hard to make though
In it because like I do follow boxing but if I’m being honest I’ve never heard of mat why would it be hard to make if he’s on the Zone well it’s well he need is going to want to look for better opponents is well not better like more
Famous opponents why even the Conor Ben fight he’s been um why why would he try why would he try and fight Connor if he can beat Matias right and add another strap that that would be he’d be unified Champion then the T fight is just much
More if he can become Undisputed at two weight classes you know and like listen they’re gonna put they’re gonna put up a lot of money for for him to fight Maas that listen they brought Matias over there because Matias is exciting and Matias can be become a draw although he’s very dangerous maybe
Devin might not want the fight because it’s too dangerous hopefully not hopefully not doesn’t seem like that would be the case not his track record his track record doesn’t suggest that but this is this is 140 and this this is a big puncher we’re dealing with
A very hard puncher very Ag and what it is is his power retention throughout the rounds is very good isn’t it it’s very good oh big up Bates what’s up L yeah all right um to address the Devon power thing yeah I said it for ages yeah Devin
First and foremost he was facing um what’s that Russian man he stopped when he was first at 135 he was stopping people yeah and he was facing decent opposition he had the shoulder injury and I think if you look at what he looks like now he spent way too long at 135
And drained himself so what happens when you’re trying to make weight you can’t do that much SMC so basically being at 135 for so long so much went into him just sort of just making the weight that you saw the power drop off well and I don’t really think he’s
Not like you know what I mean I don’t think he’s not a puncher he’s just a guy that’s obviously kind of more defensively sound and with the drainage and the fact that he’s kind of and he fights at PACE he’s more worried about keeping his pace and keeping his thing so he’s not
Necessarily loaded into this thing you see he varies the space of his shots um so and you got understand that the punch machine too that’s all about technique that’s not really ever really reflects who hits harder it’s just about who’s got the proper technique on the machine to strike it
Properly um so and you notice that um Garcia he loads on everything and he’s also not F punch machines are weird like I remember when I I used to go fair and hit them as long as I hit Square in the center I always registered a good Superman but you know you know
Know sometimes you you don’t hit it dead in the right place then you know it doesn’t get the same you know results yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s that’s that’s technique but I also think the fact that how long Devon stayed at £1 135 is off often overlooked it’s really
Often overlooked yeah yeah I think so I think that’s an important factor yeah because like um was it the lomachenko he like he looked like a skeleton in one of the pictures man yeah honestly he outgrew that weight possibly three four years ago yeah yeah yeah he did he did
He did do you guys think that people think that fight was like a robbery because um how the med perceives lenko like he’s this wizard um well based on based on last night it’s clear that people don’t know how to score boxing yeah yeah including the judges there’s no way the lomachenko
Fight was a robbery there’s no way it was a robbery no way yeah to be fair I can’t speak objectively because I’m a de fan right yeah but even though you’re a fan you you could still um you can still like give your opinion from you know a fair standpoint like without being
Biased like it wasn’t a rubbery it weren’t a rubbery it it was a close fight it weren’t a rubbery you know what I mean and if they’re going to say that you have to take it from the champion for Ortiz yesterday well LMA weren’t the champion and in a close FL well if
That’s the why wouldn’t the fight go to Deon then unless people are saying that de um lomachenko watch Deon which the he didn’t I’ve heard some people try to say that but he didn’t he didn’t he didn’t work I think like what like they’ll have the initial reaction and then they just
Let the like they’ll not watch the fight again and just let their imagination just fill in the blank yeah man listen um no I didn’t I didn’t have it robbery um yesterday yesterday with t was bad that was a bad decision for me you know I mean although you
Know Ortiz was a little naive wasn’t he he was a little naive thinking that he could just box from range and and it’ll get a decision he was a bit naive yeah I think if you’re the beat even if you are a boxer Guy They’ll always just like have one judge paid off
Where it’s if it’s like a proper wash then they’ll have it as a as a dra at the like at the worst so um I think in terms of like you coming in and like trying to beat champ more likely than not you’re going to have to go for like
You know boss the wall just like try to knock somebody out sorry like this this this thing is buffering a lot all right can you say that again please I’m just saying like um usually if a guy comes in he’s like an outsider and he outboxes the champ
It’s a case of um there’ll always be like at least one ref that like at worst they score at a draw so I think if you’re going to come in as like a to be fair I’ve heard of this guy before because he fought um lomachenko but he’s
Not like a big name so if you’re not a big name and you come in I think your best chance of actually winning the fight is to try to look for a knockout yeah he fought Jamal hering as well like he was way more aggressive in that fight to be honest
Um it’s politics it’s just po pure politics that’s all it is and like the politics were in TI’s favor his dad’s talking Reckless now saying that he wants TI to fight Terence Crawford I mean come on what is it you hate your son yeah I mean like if he that like
Come on man like what’s he gonna do to Tio T’s like smaller than Spence and I don’t think he’s necessarily a lot more skilled even if he if he if he’s even more skilled than um Errol Spence so Terence Terence gonna come into the ring wearing a basketball
Vest that’s what he’s gonna do because he’s gonna he’s gonna dribble my guy all around the flipping ring you know I mean that was such a satisfying win when he beat Errol Spence like I can remember the lead to that fight I was like Terence Crawford is like better than you
Guys are saying and then when you just watched it I didn’t even expect that well you know what I got from that yeah is his dad’s an idiot because if sandor Martin and Jermaine Ortiz could check hook your son all night yeah and and knock him down what
Do you think a Southport Crawford is going to do he’s going to take his head off take your head off kid 100% M tag it’s coming not not beats but honestly yeah look look at the check hooks he got clipped with last night what do you think what does anyone think happens if
Crawford hits him with the same check right hooks um Hospital man hospital it’s weird doing it with like um heo he has like a good performance then he have a few [Â __Â ] performances then he have good performance do you think he’s cycling he’s got weird body
In it where he’s got like a really like he’s not got a lightweights upper body but then he’s got short legs do you think that might be like a side effect of like using drugs because his dad’s been wanting to be be a boxer since he
Was a kid don’t you think his dad might if everyone’s on steroids which I believe like pretty much most of the fighters are on ster don’t you think his D like I like you’re tired to your opinion I I I won’t go that far Ono you know I
Mean I won’t go that I don’t know that’s all I can say I haven’t I Haven got I got I mean to be fair like I mean in terms of um the steroid usage I’m using UFC as a reference which obviously they might have a different gym culture but
Uh what I’ve watched like what I’ve found like while watching UFC is like you can think this guy’s natural turns out most of these guys are on yeah no I can’t I can’t put that on anyone’s I don’t put it on any man’s name if you they if you’ve not you’ve
Not got a dodgy test and you don’t have the behavior that smells dodgy so Al you know some of some of the stuff he comes out with maybe is on something man but it might not no no no oh yeah no no obvious yeah yeah yeah no if you say my
Man’s on something yeah he’s defin on it maybe iasa whatever you want to call it but I’m not going to I won’t put Peds on my man’s jacket you get me cuz you know what I mean the tail I mean I’m not touching that yeah but I mean is he on
Something a few recreational things obviously yeah could well be a few recreational things or maybe get punched in the face from the age of six or seven obviously might be you know synapses might not be functioning the way most logical people do but yeah I can’t yeah I’m not sure that I’m not
Sure on I mean you may maybe maybe not maybe maybe not I mean all I know TI escaped to his strap yesterday escaped with his strap well I mean I’m not gonna I’m not going to all like I said yeah I also I’ve been put question marks on certain victories
Right I said man getting stoppages over or getting you know highlight winds over people with miles on the clock you know it’s like Jo Joshy must be washed then if Tio look that good against Josh Josh is washed didn’t it that’s why yeah like Josh is pricing himself out that Jack Catal
Match like the only way Josh is washed yeah the only way they Josh is washed I agree sorry beats go ahead go ahead beats no I think the only way they could put the Jack catell fight on is if they put it on pay-per-view and it’s not a Pay-Per-View fight he’s priced himself
Out so do you guys think Jack catell and like kind of like ruined him or do you think just rir resz wasn’t as good as we thought he was um maybe coll ruined him or maybe it’s just father time just caugh sometimes Father Time catches up to Fighters and
Some Fighters they they just pink early because Josh is only early 30s and he hasn’t had a good performance since probably 2020 when was the cat fight was it 2021 or 2022 don’t know man early 2022 it was early 2022 he beats remember what I’ve always said yeah I’ve said there’s always time
To pay the piper and everyone’s got a punch count on their body what mandam not paying attention to is the fights that Josh has been in in the WSB my man went through about two years of never having an easy fight and I mean like he’s not a defensive specialist he was
Getting taking bad punches remember um remember when I said about remember when I said about Joe Joyce’s chin remember I said everyone oh Joe Joyce I said you can’t get keep getting head so here’s the thing he ran out his punch count ran out I think his
Punch count ran out in the Ramirez fight in the Ramirez fight his clock ran out and from there it’s been downhill appreciate the Super Chat yeah but let me tell you this yeah Josh scored two knockdowns Ramirez right he scored two knockdowns against Ramirez but outside of that that fight
Was about seven5 and when I said no he didn’t he watch him no he didn’t no no no no he started off well early Ramer came back into it yo um so I don’t know if it’s l also also beats remember the um the fight against just smoking his it was nice
Talking to you guys big up Lennox um I’m a big fan I’ve been watching for a while but um yeah first time I’ve joined I appreciate appreciate it no problem no problem yeah I beats remember before the Ramirez fight the prograce fight too that was a
War yes the progress fight was a war and um what the postal fight it was difficult for a little while I remember him having a few minutes against poal a bit difficult you know I mean yeah so he’s SC he had miles on the clock you get me
So it’s like let me use another example right you know how everyone got gassed on um uh L’s win over nakatani right I’m like nakatani is not the same fighter my man came off a perforated eardrum against the Puerto Rican guy who got banged up for murder right he went
Through a war with that guy right he went through a war with Tio nakatani was a short yeah with ph phix vjo right nakatani fought he fought lomachenko he was already shot and man oh he nakatani win I’m like no no that’s a confidence boost because he fought a guy that was
Shot Fighter the nakatani that fought um lomachenko was not the same guy that fought Tio it’s not the same guy that fought look at the Felix vjo fight he was not you can’t be the same after that Felix yeah yeah he gave nakatani a beating man yeah so my thing is you know
Even though Josh Taylor came out of them fights with wins he came out with miles on the clock yeah he came out with so you’re not fighting the same guy it’s like you get me it’s like I not you know what I mean it’s like if someone beats stops
Joe Joyce now that’s not the same Joe Joyce yeah and the Jack cater fight just exposed it all man and he’s he’s been inactive he’s you you see what it is he’s living a good life probably as well he probably living a good life you know I mean and probably not applying
Himself to the train is that Echo coming from you let me see if I can R the echo on the sets yeah he’s probably um living a good life one sec let me see the echo cancellation oh the echo cancellation is on it’s on I’ve got I’ve got I’ve got an
Earpiece on so stepo not on my end okay all right I think it’s gone now anyway all right yeah Josh looks washed and Tio took took advantage but I I can’t hold that yeah it’s some it’s something with me with um your connection with that that
Feedback I don’t know what that is yeah I can’t hold that against Tio though because it’s not up to Tio to monitor Josh Taylor’s condition if you get what I’m saying l no I’m not holding against it I’m just you know my man asked you know someone asked why there was such inconsistencies
In his performances and I was like are there really inconsistencies or is it the opponents yeah um lefes is saying I remember the Ramirez fight he came back to the gym with a noticeable gut all right yeah yeah you see that’s what I’m saying he’s got see all that money they
Have these Fighters when they’re young and they can’t spend it because they got to stay in the gym if you’re going to stay at the top you got to stay in the gym and that’s hard when you got M he probably got couple million in the bank perhaps or
Whatever you thinking man on life you know I mean yeah live on life eat some food yeah but that’s when you become a [Â __Â ] fighter when when you neglect what you got got you there then something has to give living a good life it’s not it’s
Not compatible with being a a top tier fighter it is what it is well you could say the same thing for Tio right remember when my man was hungry chasing down lomachenko right he got there and then what happened he acted like a diva didn’t he
Like um cuz all right Bob’s got him sort of on a fixed price fixed price with his fights isn’t it and like it had to go to a purse bid and that ruined his momentum didn’t it it ruined his momentum you I mean all that triller deal you I mean that ruined
Here and obviously he’s got a serious lack of account like he can’t take accountability because his obsession with blaming match room fors L for getting that that that purse bid went to triller First what why does he keep blaming Eddie and his dad see his dad don’t help
Him because his dad fills his head with nonsense because his dad was having a go Eddie as well and you’re thinking well you wanted a purse bid it went to a purse bid and now you’re complaining what are you complaining about Bruce gas what’s up Bruce if you
Want to talk some boxing there’s a link there for Bruce Gest no problem yeah so um Tio his um he his weaknesses showed up pretty bad showed up pretty bad base the kid what’s up you know I mean big up base couldn’t cut the ring off not for the life of him
And let’s keep it real he only had to really worry about one channel and that was Ortiz slipping out to his right any time tried to pin him it reminded me of when Mikey Garcia for sand or Martin you’re watching the fight and you say well you know he’s going to
Move to his right and you still ain’t figured it out and that like that’s why when AJ took on Robert Garcia I was thinking oh no AJ man like Robert I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know well that’s what you know what I
Mean remember what I always say right hit and not get hit is not saying you never get hit it’s just you don’t get hit with the same thing all the time conversely if you know gu’s doing the same thing and you let him do it for 12
Rounds you know what you know I mean it’s a bit mindboggling it’s like he’s hitting you with this a jab at the same pace and you can’t adjust to that he’s acting the same way 12 rounds bro for 12 rounds you can’t cut the ring off for 12 rounds yeah there’s something clearly
Wrong isn’t it something clearly wrong yeah base if I mean unless you I mean you’re just listening in it’s all good there’s a link there you can jump in anytime Bruce you can jump in you I mean anyone with with um a good link you can
Jump in yeah is Hey listen Doone you think done are doing a good job in boxing leonnard or are you one of them people who who think they they’re lacking I don’t think they’re lacking I don’t think they’re lacking beats but I’m a boxing fan you know what I mean
Like um I think my man hacks in the chat yeah I always say not everyone in boxing and most of these lot actually are boxing fans so I’m a boxing fan you know me like from IA up I’m watching if it’s a decent only time I don’t like watching
Fights is when it’s one-sided like a lot of these come up fights when you put man in there to match up mash up some you know no hope or whatever I don’t enjoy that I mean obviously some people like a lot of the um the buildup top rank
Fights I do not enjoy but in terms of the Zone what I could say is across the board if if you’re a boxing fan all the cards are always competitive in fact even Golden Boy does a good job on the hisone cards like I I I thought you was
A little harsh on kishan yesterday because if pedraz is going to choose to move down at 34 that’s his issue isn’t it he thought he could get something you know no no no be what I was saying is I’m questioning like what’s his financial situation yeah I might have
Been a bit harsh but I just thought it was a stupid move a d move it was a d move yeah is that the only option for a Payday you got yeah yeah yeah he took a rassing boy like I tell you what he he’s lucky my
Guy didn’t have tank type of power or he would have got hurt really bad in there really bad really bad you know I mean like them right uppercuts were like him up in the body shirs I I was quite impressed with ke impressed look pretty good look pretty
Good but I don’t know what his window is um you you think Andy would get him yeah I’ve I’ve had the same stance on on that fight since before Andy turned Pro you get me so I mean my I told you I’ve never once I’m not a fanboy except for
Like I’ve only ever once with like ra this only one fighter current fighter you’ve heard me say I’m a fan of and I was a fan before he turned Pro you know you could go back I don’t do many lives in fact at the moment you’re the only
Person I actually get on lives with and I’m sure if you go in your archives probably spanning three four years ago I told man about it like I said it’s no secret I went Cuba to train with him so um and the only reason I’ve said
It before like the only reason I even know Sean is from watching him get schooled in the amies and honestly to be fair he was the only one who was kind of competitive you get me that year when they thought he was the only one who was
S competitive and I was like all right this kid’s a bit good still so I followed him and you know I followed his first five fights he had what people forget he had like three fights on matchroom he was you know he was auditioning for a deal and he had five
Fights before he went back to the Olympics so he went to the Olympics as a pro so in terms of ceiling I mean listen you could call it Breen bias or whatever like I I think Cruz has got a way higher ceiling than he Kean
Does see um I pissed off my Cuban friend the other day because I I told him that Cubans don’t make good Pros bro that make a Pros do you think you think Andy could be maybe like you know top two I beat you got you got you you got you got to
Make a case for that like what do you mean who’s not who’s not because there’s been quite a few great Cuban Pros yeah but I’m not going I’m not going back to kid gavan I’m not going back to that far all right not even K kid Gavin let’s
Look at it right now you can’t I mean what are we talking about are we talking about um all time or we cons consistently arisara we could say that even um roberi Ramirez roberi that he was one of my my um my examples of of you underachievement I mean he’s one it was
What unified or whatever he lost his last fight but he was unified yeah wasn’t he I think he was unified he lost his L he lost the belts on the last his last out and he lost the belts um but yeah I mean I think yeah he
Lost his first pro fight but I think that was you know bad decision bad training or whatever but as a pro especially since a lot of mandm like to say oh Kean are boring you can’t say Roi was necessarily boring my man hacks hey hey hey that’s my that’s my brethren but
He knows what he say it is not true though he’s he’s taking a piss oh what fights do I like from Lara um um against where done Angulo I love that fight he was taking a beat you had to dig you had to dig for that one Angulo mosan the second mosan fight
Um yeah he SC yeah yeah he SC I like the Canelo fight bro I like the Canelo fight I don’t what nobody I like the Canelo fight I don’t care what nobody says I like I like I like I like that fight count punch he do some nice
Count but he’s not he’s not a Mayweather he’s not a Mayweather he’s not on that level he’s not on that level so he could have school him I mean with the do of Floyd but yeah yeah yeah la Lara um re I’m talking mod day r
Let’s be a beast we cleared out weight divisions mam ran car what’s his name Carl Frampton I’ll never respect Carl Frampton ever oh yeah yeah yeah he he didn’t want the smoke bro he really didn’t want it he he done everything to avoid them fights um yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Um I don’t know about Andy how old is he how old is he uh 26 he’s young yeah and I why do I think he was older I because he’s still young man he’s still a youth man but see you know you know what you know what worries me about Andy
Cruz what is is the fast track I don’t the fast tracking it messes Fighters up bro messes figh I mean listen he wants to be fast fast tracked I mean he’s I mean he’s in the gym showing boots tricks you know what I mean uh he wants to be fast tracked I mean
Um you know what I mean that’s not he’s got the skill level my only thing is if he chooses I know I know Bo’s got him sitting down in the pocket a bit more a lot more catching counters but in terms of pure skill you know I’m I’m waiting
For more of a transition to um he’s got power but he’s got to hit you clean I’m waiting for more of a transition to like more solid boxer punch it but as a pure boxer I can’t really see anyone really getting that so if if you were to
Put Andy in with tank 135 what happens tank could have to land yeah yeah yeah have to land get that box tank get that box tank tank would have to land you get me so tank like that and they’re making him avoid avoid boxers he what would he T was an
Aate well listen all you got to think about is what Tank’s coach said about him fighting um what’s his name Shakur yeah he basically was like no we’re not getting in there with someone that moves tanks got similar to a teal problem he rather you come to
Him all right Chris is coming through on Twitter right now un unless you can find it in the I’ll send it right on Twitter this second um yeah yeah yeah um yeah tank is is definitely avoiding the punches because they they know they know they smart though because how what’s his record
Now tanks tanks is tank over 30 fights undefeated and he ain’t fought no boxers really you know by the time they got to the the Cuban kid what’s his name um he was old he was past it what was his name again oh um the fight that they went
That he got a he got a charity stoppage in the yeah he got a charity stoppage in the 12th round and my man fought him remember my man gave you the doctor’s report saying he fought him on one foot from the first round oh yep yep yep yep
Y remember that he snapped his Achilles and he took him 12 rounds and that was a charity stoppage CU he could have finished the round um what’s my man’s name it’s the man who gave Crawford this toughest fight to date oh my days can’t remember I’m blank what’s his name again
Man he’s a bit of a rude boy hang on it’s one of um one of the yeah yeah it’s one of the Cubans hang on hang on uh oh my days hang I’m blanking it’ll come to me in a second um I don’t know it’s just just
Gone out of my brain yeah no it’ll come to me in a second Yus Gamboa thank you Gamboa yeah yes thank you yeah he got he got a charity 12 round stoppage against Gamboa with the dodgy referee if you watch if you watch fights with that ref it’s always something
Dodgy so if if if tank had fought the gambo fought Crawford it would been a different fight yeah could have found himself in trouble could have found himself in trouble yeah because even even Pedraza had his moments against tank before he got folded up you know I mean yeah he had his
Moments U what you what do you think about Connor could Conor Ben beat tank what say if it was at 147 they probably gonna drain Conor but what at 147 what happens what’s up Chris Conor Ben versus tank at 147 is is that a good fight for Connor a good fight for
Tank I mean is if the money’s right I think Connor’s just looking for a Payday honestly is Eddie cashing him out uh I mean it’s got cash out settings on it it’s got cash out settings on it what’s up Chris Chris having a few technicals but
It’ll be it’ll be in the game soon I don’t think Eddie’s cashing I think Conor’s cashing himself out Connor is calling Conor called out Terence Crawford he’s calling out everyone you know I mean so you know he he wants a big fight maybe he just because Conor likes the
Money I mean Conor like the money Conor and Chris like the money is it you know what I’m saying yeah y know my bad about my Wii but I’m just gonna say this I don’t see Conor Ben T Davis fought on a fair playing Ground
Meaning if it’s not a cat or no weight St relations I don’t think that fight’s gonna happen you don’t think you don’t think tank will fight him at 147 no without any weight stipulations yeah without he’s got he’s definitely going to for some kind of concession definitely he’s not the I don’t care
About the aside all that other stuff because if they’re going to fight in Britain right say if uh the appeal of the the BB of the BBB ofc uh fails and it goes to Britain the biggest star is Conor Ben and Ben’s not gonna concede that and why should
He I don’t know bet I don’t I don’t think B Ben is a biggest star as as Eddie is making I think with the EU fight it had a bit of Marquee but I’m not sure right now I’m not sure I feel you guys I feel you guys because that
Was a that was a fight with the uh the namesakes of two of the most popular British fighters of all time so that was going to make both of them some money and that was undoubtedly GNA make Conor Ben’s profile uh shoot up if he if he
Gave a good performance which I think he would have but yeah to be quite honest with you I honestly believe this tank is known in America I know tank is may be known internationally but I don’t think he has the same cache as Conor Ben in Britain or I could be
Wrong because the last time he was in Britain he fought Liam Walsh yeah Liam Walsh yeah yeah definitely Liam Walsh yeah but at the end of the day that doesn’t make you you know box office in uh Britain he’s boxed office in America like hey cool he he
Need as someone who’s lived in three continents or currently traverses three continents I could say a lot of the American boxers do not have a profile outside of the States including tank at the time when he fought Liam Walsh I think a lot of people like tank
I’m not saying it like because it was it was it was at the Copper box I believe or something like that but um at the time fresh man yeah they did like tank I’m not going to lie they did like tank over here but um he knocks people out he not
He knocks people out we we can say that but look at the uh look at the caliber of apponent he was facing like this is why you have to let time to uh time play out because he turned down uh Tevin farmer which was really really bad he
Absolutely avoided Vil lenko he still voids him to this day he doesn’t even call his man’s name out it’s like your Marquee value is only as good as the people that you fight and if you’re not trying to consistently fight the best Allah Devon Haney because that’s the
Only person I see trying to fight the best I him in Fimo but your Marquees are gonna fall down fall off actually yeah 100% man 100% you know what I mean and um um yeah not 144 fight him at 147 man you I mean he’s not he’s not you have to
Understand a lot of these guys they’re not built like that no disrespect and I don’t mean to sound callous to talk bad about a boxer who puts his life on the line to feed his kids but I know boxers who do that and have no qualms going up
In wait I give you a perfect example Gabriel Rosado career could have been completely different and possibly he would have been a lot more uh preserved if he would have fought St at 54 and fought Canelo as opposed to fighting you know Triple G at the time he did but he
Said hey I don’t want to fight him at no catchweight so when I beat him I don’t want to hear anything he didn’t he obviously didn’t beat genady yeah golov like cut his face to Ribbons man I remember that fight busting him up are we still audible or yeah yeah yeah
We’re here I think he just lost I think we just lost him for a my bad my bad my bad my Wii has just been tweaking but I’m just saying we we we we exalt the winners but we don’t exalt the people who do it the right way like I ran
Barkley fought everybody he didn’t duck anyone he says there’s no picking and choosing you get your buck KET you get your buck KET it is what it is and sometimes it’s just like in in history all we see is win or loss or Draw and the method by the win
Loss or Draw method by the win or loss or Draw right we not gonna know that hey yeah I I I ran Barkley’s fight with Marvin hagg’s brother Robbie Sims and he Lo was a war complete War but these guys a they not they built like that no they’re not
No one’s built like Barkley Barkley fought Robbie Sims a good day day yeah he fought um Tony took a hammering he Ben Ben he went up to heavyweight who did he Lo who did he fight at heavyweight very ccia he stopped him yeah yeah he stopped Jerry
CIA and I think he fought Trevor burck although they were washed at the time listen three-eight Champion man freeweight Champion knocked out Darren yeah Duran knocked him out knocked him out he beat he beat Tommy twice got two victories over he beat Tommy twice and you know that shows you how great those
Guys were because hey let’s perfect example Roberto Duran had a career and a half before he fought sugar R the first time and you know he he no mes then he beats up uh Davy Moore then he gets stretched by uh Tommy Hearns but he keeps fighting and fighting and fighting
About you every time when Duran was counted out he had a career best performance like I’m not even gonna lie Durant is so under Chris like I mean like the other day somebody played a clip of the Barkley fight and they showed his defense Durant’s like his timing on defense and fr his
Punches he’s got got second to none bro Second To None Second To None the same he was on the same level as Wilfred Benitas but Wilfred he was just a bigger he was just a bigger version he was just a bigger and more Slicker version he he
Didn’t have the punch power pound for pound as Duran but he didn’t need to he just like that’s how great Ware Bonitas was he toed with Roberto Durant and mind you out of out of the all you know what’s mad sorry since you brought up Bonitas you know what’s mad I
Think I said this to you before beat I said in this day and age most men would say that the bonit suaray fight was boring it was it it was grueling man it was technical it was very technical that’s what I’m saying but but in this
Day in this day and age right because man wasn’t catching punches with their face right you see the number of punches were missed Shay talks about it’s like bam I could not this guy down the number slips the footwork the footwork right I mean up until the knockdown and stoppage
That was basically a lot of footworking Master Class and the way people don’t don’t rap boxing today I could see them man saying oh that fight was boring I could see man them today calling that a boring fight that was lenx and Beach I gotta ask you this
Question guys do you think you know the uh this is a delineation of how far people’s intellect is regressed because I we look at boxing as a a a parallel to life right we right back in the day people appreciated the fweet signs they understood that hey the sugar rate uh
Leonard in real farare bonit fight was very tense and it may not have uh spor it had sporadic moments of violence but it was more of a chess match like one who who’s going to make the mistake who makes that one [Â __Â ] move that’s going to
You know seal their faith and as you can see with wil for bonit is slippery like like on point like in a way that few boxers have ever been this one of the great technical masters of this sport we call pugilism right he’s still lost but
Oh oh he was making him Miss he wasn’t really throwing any punches because he’s trying to lure one of the biggest punchers into a counter and one thing about Sugar Ray hey sugaray like beating people up Sugar Ray uh Leonard was a a Speedster big Power in at 147 and he had
Power in every weight class he was in but he won a gold medal so that tells you one thing he’s not a dummy he’s cerebral in the ring too he understands how tricky this guy is because mind you to this day he’s the youngest Champion ever irrespective of weight class
Irrespective of anything a a a six I think it was 17 a 17 year old kid is not supposed to a a 17 year old kid’s not supposed to be Antonio santes as great as a fighter santes was Kim P Kim pomelli right so that just shows you how
Great great these guys are now to these modern day Fighters you look at tank Davis he’s saying oh oh why why can he not fight me out of catchweight in terms of Devon Hane after his yeah yeah after his master class with uh uh with uh reg’s program but mind you
You want you will rather go up 12 pounds than five to fight a guy that has been calling you out and been disparaging your name you see how corny that is because let’s really look at it sure did did a lot of those guys duck Mike
Mcallum did they duck her gam yes but also did they duck ER prire yes but did they not fight tough Fighters hey cool sugaray uh Leonard didn’t fight Aaron prior he did fight a kulle he did fight Marvin Haggler he did fight Tommy Hearns three uh twice he fought Durant three
Times so what are we talking about These Guys these guys want to be compared to the greats but are not even willing to do what the greats did because I I look at it like this when I was younger I had a Hardline stance on ducking you can’t
Call yourself the greatest or anything best of anything if you have not fought anyone all of the uh contenders that could potentially raval you right that’s why don’t I don’t consider Floyd Mayweather Jr are greater than Muhammad Ali irrespective of the losses or anything I I don’t even consider him
Greater than Larry Holmes because here’s the thing I think Floyd is technically a better boxer than Ary but he just doesn’t have the resume he just doesn’t have the he just didn’t test himself enough does nothing the same that’s true but not to belabor the point as what I was saying is
This you can’t call yourself great if you duck in challenges and expect people to respect you because if Bert sugar was alive and he had a and he had a a grasp on modern day boxing in regards to who the the guys were he would have pulled
You coat like hey this guy’s been calling you calling you out for years why are you not fighting him perfect example when you were at 130 vasil laneno was at 130 and mind you you hit a lot harder than lenko how come you won’t fight him also J uh Gary uh Gary Russell
Jr who was a career uh 126 pound guy said he’ll move up to any weight class you’re in and fight you how come you wouldn’t fight him it’s a DMV fight one is from Capitol Heights uh Maryland which is basically DC and one that’s from Baltimore Maryland that should be
Easy fight to make how come you not fighting these people but you want to fight people that are tailor made to your style and mind you Yuri Yus Gamboa you couldn’t stop him when he had a torn Achilles right and former a former uh olyp gold medalist yeah a Cuban yeah
Right a great fighter he didn’t duck anybody mind you he didn’t have to fight ter that’s true Gala gabo didn’t duck didn’t duck no smoke he didn’t duck no smoke he came up he came up and wait he came up and wait to fight Crawford he didn’t have to take that fight listen
507 [Â __Â ] up his career because he was trying to save his company you mean yeah he like 50 Cent destroyed Kirkland well it weren them Kirkland and and Gamboa he he had no business fighting tank I mean U fighting Terrence you no business fighting Terence even though he h great
That’s what the great ones do that’s what the people when you dare to be great oh you lost yes this is when people this is when can aply use that uh phrase you dare thing with that the thing with that now chrisa the problem
Is is you don’t get no if you try to be great and it doesn’t come off you get no credit these days that’s why a lot of them won’t attempt to become great because they know that yeah you you step up and chew more than what you can
They’re going to say cool you’re a bum Euro bum American bum me they don’t care they don’t care but you know these just but you got to look at it these dysfunctional scumbags are the same people that will you know find excuses for a person like Demetrius Andrade who’s ducked a whole
Bunch of people love him I used to be one of those people who was who who was a fan but he he left me face so was Chris yeah he left me he left me with Egle on my face when he didn’t fight Johnny back I understand you know you
Didn’t uh you were getting shafted because you wanted to fight Canelo you wanted to use your WBO mandatory uh uh status for being a super champion in two weights to fight him but hey that didn’t happen you have to stay matchfit like you say in all these uh in all your
Videos in regards to people calling out the the one at top on the top right the one on the top is going to get treated better than the people under him because at the end of the day the establishment chose him or her or for whatever reason
And if it makes sense to them monetarily if it makes sense to them in an esoteric way if they if they’re pushing a agenda what what have you they’re GNA be treated like a prize stallion right it’s your job to beat all comers and your job to keep yourself match fit because hey
Everyone is going to have some wear and tear getting to the champion that’s just what it is but if you are good as what you say you are you’re going to end up like Marvin Haggler who beat up all these people to get Veto urma and you
Know get to veto andma who who he drew with then he eventually you know beat Allan M and had the rest of his career to have big money fights these guys talk about the old guys and romanticize them but they would not do a fraction of what
These guys were doing so when they SE guys look at him like what do you got look at him like yeah whatever dog because you’re not him I mean Floyd celebrating 50 and0 it took 50 about 50 fights for hler to get a title shot you know what I’m
Saying yo big up Bruce guest what’s up Bruce what’s up Beats how we doing tonight there Gentleman on the panel bro just uh I was driving you know I saw you drop the link I flew home and um hey any did you talk about that [Â __Â ] show that
We saw last night it was it wasn’t a good fight to be honest it was it wasn’t a good fight to look at but um I know it wasn’t it wasn’t a good fight but I say this like how you guys talk about Lara right I’ll give you a perfect example of
How they say Lura is boring but he’s not per Paul Williams he didn’t move that fight he was walking he was walking to Paul Williams he was Boxing Around Paul Williams and he did what he had to do he still got robbed robbed him without a
Gun see you know you know you know what my problem is right like they’re saying that Ortiz moved too much okay fair enough sand Martin didn’t move that much and he floored T twice right he Flo T did he get a decision nope absolutely not because you have to you have to look
At it yeah yeah so all this you know you you you need to stand your ground and and Ortiz threw 50 more punches than than than Lopez throughout the fight you know I mean he threw 50 more punches yes and he outboxed him and he and and he
Showed his severe limitations saw you saw how frustrated and how mentally uh thrown off he was with movement like literally he was in the South Pole sense and he’s circling to his right and his left and mostly he’s circling to his uh uh his left so he can get more space
Right Tio’s not stepping to uh Tio’s not stepping to his right to cut him off because this guy’s circling to his no he cing L to his left why you not why you not stepping to your right to cut him off that’s how you do do it how my coach
Told me is this if you want to cut somebody off go to the place that they’re going to go to First make sure your feet are faster enough to cut him off because let’s look at it people say George Foreman in his prime oh he wasn’t as Fleet footed as
Ali why do you think Ali couldn’t move against George Foreman and he had to play implement the Rope a doe right George good because George former was cutting that ring off and he didn’t he didn’t he wasn’t he wasn’t super explosive with his feet but he knew what
To do he knew when to step step left and step right he knew when to he knew want to do what he needed to do but I’m seeing I’m seeing homeboy literally chase this guy he chased this guy and he fell I laughed he fell you there was one
Time he was chasing him so much he fell yeah like you know he he was struggling man no he he threw he threw one of them leaping gazelle shots and missed that was that’s when he fell that that had me laughing bro but like my thing is is this ultimately we talk
About oh you can’t box like that hey at one point in time I was looking at Ortiz he needed to throw more punches I can understand their uh their uh ey with that but the beginning of the fight that was clearly orti he damn near swept all
Those rounds so how are we going to be looking at tiimo Lopez and giving him a title back that at the F at the first time the first part of that fight he was reaching he was he was made to look silly and every time he tried to lure
Him into a trap Jermaine Ortiz was beating him up so what are we doing here like Ortiz was onedimensional bro all he had was defense he didn’t have any offense I didn’t I don’t think he hit [Â __Â ] Tito five times in that fight neither the one
Who so what how how did he score 60 more punches theoo did not get any off offense until he headbed him and cut him he had no he he had no offense until he headbed him there’s no he won no rounds until he headbed him and the only
Reason why Ortiz slowed down his punch output because he was dealing with the cut there’s no rounds so if if Ortiz was not thr it’s not like he out punched him by five punches he out punched him by 6060 punches you had you had Lopez winning
Bruce yeah you Lopez winning I I thought I thought Lopez pulled it out but see it was very clouded the way the fight was scored um you know that Ortiz he didn’t have that desire and and and that impresses a lot lot of Judges uh you know the Challenger going for the
Champion going for the title I mean it takes me back to it reminded me of [Â __Â ] 1976 with oi and Jimmy young you know Jimmy young could have had the will by the balls if he had just turned it up another notch and that’s what I thought
Ortiz should have done last night he he had he had everything going for him yeah but I look at it Lopez Lopez was to me Lopez is a head case bro he came out with a circus around him it was [Â __Â ] he looked like something out of the Allison
Wonderland at the end of the fight he’s crying he’s telling the audience to suck his D he’s praising Jesus I mean this kid is like one one one [Â __Â ] beer away from a a nervous breakdown this what it looked like to meing Ortiz just did not have that
Second gear he needed to turn it up a notch Jimmy young could have done the same thing in 1976 but he didn’t and and Ortiz Ortiz did not have to do anything more cuz Tio was not doing anything that’s the problem lot can’t get on here
And talk about a guy who outpunched the other guy by 60 punches what was Tio doing that’s my point Ortiz came with a game plan Ortiz came in with a game plan and Tio had nothing for in the words of Terence Crawford it’s called boxing not
A backyard fight it’s called Hit not get hit one person was hitting and not getting hit and the other guy was clueless yes that’s true that’s true that’s true but Tio did when Tio did get in it looked like he landed he did land some clean shots but not enough for me
To say hey he definitively won that round because when Ortiz was letting clean straight left Hands Clean check right hooks clean double right Jabs and [Â __Â ] like that from the South Pole stance no one was saying anything about that I feel you and let me tell you something Bruce that’s a great
Comparison to bring up the Jimmy young Ali if Jimmy young even would if he would have turned it up hey there’s a potentiality he may get knocked out because he’s the naturally smaller guy got remember he started his career at middleweight he fought guys like uh Ruben Hurricane Carter and even if he
Turned it up they were gonna Rob him he not Muhammad Ali he’s not mixing you’re mix you’re mixing Jimmy young up with Jimmy Ellis oh Jimmy Ellis Jimmy Ellis Jimmy Ellis jimell Jimmy Ellis yeah well oh yeah no but like back to what he was saying sorry about that I still think
They would have robbed Jimmy young young anyway it’s Ali I think turned it up see you had the judges last night you had uh southernland wisefield and cheat them and whenever those three judges are involved in a fight there’s G to be drama I mean you can just go back and
Check it out these these three judges cheum is aptly named and and and Sutherland and and wisefield there they’re like The Three Stooges of judging uh see I I I just didn’t see Ortiz could have won that fight last night he could have turned it up he
Caught he caught uh tiimo Lopez on a bad night tiimo Lopez seems to been having a lot of bad nights lately too uh if a fighter is not coming forward um you know he he doesn’t have plan B I think he needs a better trainer than his dad in there
Um it was a [Â __Â ] show they’re going to put this on on a Thursday night in America we’re going to have to stay up till 1:30 in the morning to watch fight and if you’re not a hardcore boxing fan you’re going to say this is boxing I’m
Going to tune into this n that it was a [Â __Â ] show as far as I’m concerned it it really didn’t matter who won tiimo had a chance to to to shine and and like like right now we just heard that um that Devin Haney is signed to fight Ryan
Garcia on the 20th of April so that that those two are taken up uh tank we don’t know what’s going to happen with tank who’s who’s um who’s uh tiimo Lopez gonna fight next who’s going to be be his next opponent you know he he he could have he
Could have shown last night and he blew it they both blew it too’s next opponent like Julius from ring IQ shout out to my bro said this don’t give tiimo any mover give him somebody that he can feel that he can Style on and he can beat up on
And the person that he brought up was F baroso and unfortunately for him I think baroso would get severely hurt and I wouldn’t want that for him but hey that might be the only interesting fight interesting fight you know baroso deserves a Payday he’s earned it uh I
Don’t think I don’t think TS Fimo can [Â __Â ] take bar Roo’s punches baroso is a a tough old man bro I mean that’s we’re talking one of these well-preserved uh Latin Fighters man and uh he just yeah good match up bro I’d like to see that right he punch hard as
[Â __Â ] but or he can fight he can fight subriel Matias who uh who who does everything that Tia would want him to do but if Matia starts landing on Tio Tio’s gonna feel some [Â __Â ] that he never felt before and Tio like you Theo’s gonna be
On his bike and he’s gonna say oh it’s boxing guys it’s hit and don’t get hit with Matias so how he felt against Ortiz that’s how he’s gonna uh that’s how matiz might feel against uh uh Lopez because I don’t think Lopez is gonna engage with matis at all because if he
Does that’s to his detriment because I look at guys with like ergashev show show Jan ergashev heavy-handed punches bro he got CH he got turn up bro he got turned down literally like turn butter like literally after he that guy hit him with that straight left hand it was
Nothing afterwards he had nothing for him Jeremiah’s Pon who beat up l Ritson real bad after after Ponte had a success uh Matias just walked right through him so I don’t think anyone’s gonna be really uh fancing the matio fight but what say you guys I like the bar Roo fight man you
Got my juices stimulated for that one too bad one’s a PBC fight a top right figh I’m more interested in seeing that old man is not against Tio the Mata the mattio fight makes sense buto is not going to take that fight Tio’s going to
Chat be [Â __Â ] and he’s not going to take that fight because I just can’t especially when he’s gone out here when he’s gone out here chatting bear [Â __Â ] about boras like no my man’s n he’s moving M let me tell you something about TI Tio likes people
Coming towards him why would he not want to fight a guy that’s moving towards right that makes no sense because let’s look at it we saw the first Petro fight that [Â __Â ] was getting pieced the [Â __Â ] up he was getting beat up so if Petro sonan can do that sure in the in
The returned about pet sonan almost died that’s why the [Â __Â ] medic said hey he’s not fighting any another round past this point stop this fight but I’m just telling you if too fights a super real Mattias that might be the end of TI that day I I mean I’m more interested in that
I’d love to see that fight just to see like if he’s really got the dog in him he don’t he don’t the thing is they’re both young they’re both in the same division they should fight each other eventually see right now we’re in we’re in a an era
Where one one guy has to fight one guy and that’s like the end all be all all these Fighters should be mixing up with each other the winners should fight the winners and and on and on and and and keep it going because boxing definitely
Needs needs a kick in the ass now maybe the Saudis will give it to us that’s true but at the end of the day the Saudis are starting to see who’s serious and who’s not and I’m very happy the Saudis are telling uh people like tank
Davis hey we won’t send you two Ferraris we’ll send you two boxing gloves if you need it that was outstanding reply I’ll say you GL I love it though because at the end of the day these [Â __Â ] have become too entitled and they’ve been living high off the hog for too [Â __Â ]
Long you have to earn your [Â __Â ] money now and if you’re not We’re not gonna be working with you and you can get you can make your crumbs uh you can make your crumbs how you want to make your crowns but at the end of the day those guys are serious contenders
And serious people of boxing I really appreciate them too I mean you know what’s I think one 40 is about to just get messy because the belts are all over the Gaff it’s not going to be Undisputed because belts are all over the Gaff we got Network
Politics you know top rank only sends man over when they take they’re going to win and right now they’re not holding a strong hand over like like she calls at 135 he’s at 135 I’m chatting about lightweight yesan super lightweight I’m talking about super lightweight sorry 140 super
Lightweight well what I was going to say is to to me the the belts have been so devalued once 135 and 140 it’s not about getting the belts it’s about making the super fights they can they can have the uh the the catch weights they can have
The rehydration Clauses they want to get the best names in with the best names and make the big big bucks so they don’t have to fight for another year and you know that that’s not the way it should be Fighters should dominate their divisions clean out their divisions
Become Undisputed but but I that’s going the way of the Wayside there’s so many titles out there and man if if you’re not if you’re not fighting for World title they have the the end terms the silver the gold I mean so many so many trinkets out there they’re valueless to
To a hardcore boxing fan and and even to the fighters what they want to see is they want to see super fights they they want to see tank fight uh move up and fight uh Devin Haney at at at at 140 or or 138 or whatever you know what
Whatever weight it weight doesn’t even matter anymore that backstage stuff we’re tribute to that because we’re we’re internet people the the the majority of the the the regular fans who they’re selling the fight to they just they’re just paying for the names I mean damn how many times that we heard put
Casual say put Floyd in there with Tyson they have no idea what weight classes even are they just want they just want the m to fight the M Fighters that’s a fact that’s really that’s really a fact and I really and Bruce I love that you bring up that
Point because I really do hate how [Â __Â ] people who know nothing about this sport love interjecting about it and these are the same people that think that can you know they can try their luck in boxing and just to get their face smashed in I like one thing about
Me I cannot be I I can’t be a casual in something I have to do my research I have to you know give Credence and uh plaudits to the people who really put it down like for example rap I do my research I love the rappers who know how
To rap I have disdain and appor for people who don’t you understand because I know how hard it is and if you can’t do something steare your ass out of it you know but it’s just like these I love casual off fans because of the monetary
Aspect but if they Wen bringing no money I think the sport would be a lot better if they had you know people like us just you know uh being the standard bearers because at the end of the day we just call it down the middle if if you’re not
Doing what you’re supposed to do we’re just gonna we’re going to call it you we’re going to call you out on it but they don’t like standard bearers because they can’t get away with any of their Shenanigans if they if it’s only people like you and I you understand the
Biggest issue right now is um is the fighters like Josh Taylor like you know you’re you’re not big enough you know to get the purse you want the only way to try and achieve it is is put it on pay-per-view and that’s what the PBC like putting key Thurman in with timtim
Zoo on pay-per-view in America is not going to work there’s there’s no way if I was in America go tell Al to go suck whatever bro seriously I am you know Al Al got tired of giving Keith Thurman his his his monthly pay and he F he found a
A way to get out of it and and he and this he’s throwing Keith Thurman to the Wolves I mean this isn’t gonna be a fight keth th is gonna get seriously hurt over there anybody that’s that’s watching boxing so um you know this is this is the crazy business of boxing
That we’re in and and and that that that card in general that’s almost like a a going out of business sale but it but it’s G to be interesting as hell I mean look at the pit bull against umus I I don’t want to see like what two
Um tank Davis rejects yeah but it’s G to be fun for us fans to watch especially the ones like me who don’t pay for fights I mean this is like Saturday afternoon boxing on on why world the sport you know I understand I understand wholeheartedly I mean fondor is fondor is getting a
Title fight after a knockout loss how crazy a world do we live in I mean Daddy Garcia expect me to buy this come on you’re lucky I’m you’re lucky I’m streaming it damn yeah I don’t blame you man like it’s not it’s not good value at all it’s
Not good value no and and these are four world fights on one card I well I guess they they’re not sanctioning the uh the Tim zooo I call him Kazo yeah yeah it’s it’s not it’s not it’s 150 is it no it’s at 155 so’s I I think the WBO stepped in
And said we’re not going to sanction uh Keith Thurman because he hasn’t fought in three years and you know I mean he just does he’s not ranked so I think that’s why it’s not a world title fight but all the other fights on the card
Are yeah that’s a joke it is a joke I would be pay for if I was over there but but we’re g to watch it though I mean this you know you’re G to see maybe 50,000 payer viiew buys but there’s gonna be a million people on YouTube
That watch it and gonna be talking about it I mean even Ryan versus Devin everyone big F that should Beyond pay-per-view Ryan got stopped in his fight just before he fought someone named dwat and he hasn’t fought nobody you like who who Who’s even fight he had
A chance to fight HG larz and he backed out of that fight he backed out of fighting de at 13 Ryan shouldn’t be pay-per-view I don’t care what his his social network standing is or anything like that bit beats sir beats let me tell you something when you’re dealing with sick offense
Unfortunately the the reality of the matter may not be what you want it to be because everything you saying is apt this person ducked a title shot at 35 against the eventual one disputed a lightweight champion in Devin Haney he ducked Jorge lares because we all know
What Jorge lares would have done to him and what and he’s been ducking guys that really wanted to fight him and when he’s fought guys that you know he was supposed to be on the same level as not only did he lose he got embarrassed mind
You look at the tank fight what round did he win he didn’t win a round he didn’t Haney fight signed now for April 20th April the 20th I tell you what yeah if they try to charge you know that’s pay-per-view oh yeah that’s going to be pay-per-view if
They try to charge us over here even 20 pound if think come staying up I I’ll stay up 45 a but I ain’t paying for it I’m not paying for it there’s no way I’m paying for Ryan Garcia on pay-per-view it’s not happening people it’s not
Happening you know when when you have a choice when they tell you it’s pay-per-view and you can say well maybe I’ll buy it and maybe I won’t that that means the system is kind of [Â __Â ] up they have to reinvent a new way to sell boxing uh when people can can can uh
Open Door a and get the get the prize and then play with the lock on door B and don’t even know what’s behind it you’re gonna Open Door a every time let’s face it I mean we’re not idiots yeah me that that Ryan versus tank was
Supposed to be a super fight if if he had took tank life and death then I would have paid for it but the way bowed out he quit he quit I’m going to pay for someone who quit one fight ago I listen I’ve been watching I ain’t been watching
As long as Bruth but been there from the 80s I ain’t no mug I’m not paying for it not paying for Ryan Garcia or pay-per-view he have to prove his heart I need to see some heroic performances you know I mean like listen No No Way R
Let me tell you something beats Ryan needs to become Ryan sad Muhammad instead of Ryan Garcia for me to be interested in this man’s career he needs to be he needs to pull out some Matthew sad muhamed type [Â __Â ] Franklin you pull out that Matt Franklin
Bro yeah you gotta pull out that Matt Franklin the man that unfortunately got abandoned by his uh uh family on that street and became Matthew sad Muhammed because we are not here to watch you Dilly Dolly around and that street was the Franklin Parkway that’s why he became Matthew Franklin he didn’t his
Name was Maxwell and all he could say was ma ma and the nuns that was Matt so they called him Matt from Franklin pway Matthew Franklin later to Matthew sad muhamad one of the greatest fighters of all time man I saw him in life or death battles with Yaki Lopez with [Â __Â ] oh
Man Richie Kates did he knock out did he he knocked out ly mwali didn’t he L he put to sleep with that left Marin Johnson two great oh I mean Matthew S mamed The Comeback Kid the Miracle Man great but it was sad to see him at the
End of his life man not being able to speak after taking such severe punishment and mind you this man’s life was hell like imagine you know not knowing your family and you know they leave you as a child in the Mean Streets of Philadelphia and you have to just you
Know keep fighting and fighting and fighting your life is really uncertain it’s just ambiguity on top of ambiguity you get into a sport you get better and you’re not as skilled but you have all the heart in the world and that’s gotten you through literally because I’ve never seen Matthew sad
Muhammad be slippery like a dur like a uh like like all the other uh great Champions but one thing he did is have major league cojones like literally yak and nuclear power he had nuclear power in his fist as well yes yes but look at and like I was watching his interviews his
Stutters like his lack of coherence his lack of uh enunciation in articulation when it came to his words it always bothered me like you went through all that hell and literally you really can’t even enjoy your life it’s sad what happened to him but like this is why
Boxers fight so frequently today that you see Fighters fight once a year because they they look back at these these Heroes that that we all saw growing up and they’re like great great Fighters and and I I I bow in their presence but I’m not going to end up
Like that because most of these guys that I know I mean really I I and I know a lot of them they don’t have any money they they’re living in section8 housing getting SSI checks half of them can’t even carry on a coherent sentence I mean you know the beatings that they took
That’s why it’s you know Fighters today they see that and they’re not going to end up like that you know Floyd saw that and his father and and and he became uh uh you know he became Floyd uh it’s just now more you have to look at it from this
Perspective too look at Floyd senior senior was an incredibly skillful fighter that guy was big wrong and had he not got shot with that shotgun literally could have been you know he could have been a better fighter than what he was man and I
Saw I saw him live I saw him live at the Providence Civic Center when he fought sugaray Leonard he was he had one defeat in fact uh little baby Floyd was at ringside he was only about months old it was in 1970 N I believe and uh H man Floyd
Mayweather was tough he was number four ranked Ring magazine he was Lightning Fast hands but sugaray Leonard man he was a he was up in he was a rookie uh I mean just unbelievable lightning fast I mean I was in the fourth row and um Howard coell was calling the fight
Angelo dundy was there the petronelli were sitting behind me every I mean it was everybody in in New England was there and U man like you was saying though Floyd Mayweather senior until he got shot until he he got [Â __Â ] up on drugs and and went to prison he he would
Have been he would have been a great great fighter he had he had all he had it all going for him but he could all yeah out of all the brothers uh he’s the most talented one I’m not even saying that he’s more talented I think he’s
More no more Talent than Roger no way I think so here’s why I think I think Roger took too much punishment beat you know this R way too much punishment stop it no no no no no no Sami Sano destroyed Sami Sano for that for that super belt
He he laid him he laid him out yeah that that day he be he be he beat Vinnie Penza he listen listen Roger was that dude he was that dude man yeah but you know yesterday yesterday Rocky lock with the anniversary of Rocky Locker just passing and man there was nothing quite
Like [Â __Â ] Roger weather and Rocky lockage when they had their Showdown yeah yeah Rocky flattened him didn’t he Bruce he flattened him Rocky put him to sleep Rocky um [Â __Â ] Roger Mayweather was doing a dance he had the shades on he had the sombrero on and it was uh I mean Rocky never looked better that was that was just an unbelievable yeah yeah yeah like I said Rocky lock you want to talk
About a fighter who who who went back to to the [Â __Â ] sewers after his career I mean this this guy drugs got the best of him he was homeless and homeless in uh in New Jersey I mean Rocky greatening you know what’s scary you know what’s scary about about um Rocky
Locker yeah I remember when he beat up the Australian guy Barry Michael for the super fed weight title and I heard him speaking post fight and he spoke really clear very articulately and then to see him reduced to that crying on the screen and people laughing you know when people
Used to laugh at that cry that used to really [Â __Â ] off man they they didn’t see this guy against Tony the Tiger Lopez they didn’t see them fights they didn’t see him like him against jio yes he beat Chavez and and he beat um Gomez but didn’t get
The decision he battered Gomez he battered Gomez but he didn’t get the decision oh no he didn’t he didn’t he didn’t you’re right you’re right smashed him up smashed him to pieces bro didn’t get the decision rubbed him and hey the fight with Chavez was a very tough fight
Very tough fight this is one of the only people mind you this is a guy coming up from featherweight he didn’t start his career at 130 he came up from 26 to fight Chavez who was beating up everybody he knocked out Roger Mayweather too he beat up everybody beat
Up Mario Martinez violently to uh to uh take the title and he had on his back foot he had him on his back foot yeah he had Chavez on the back foot bro Chavez on the back foot he did not Chavez did not engage with him that’s
How great that man was so every time I see that it like everyone who really loves boxing and really understands the sport that made me feel that made me feel real bad seeing that man and the turmoil that drugs had on him and and his inab ability to have a good
Relationship with his kids that [Â __Â ] broke me when he when he when he started crying like that like I I still remember the cry and I don’t even want to reenact it because it still pisses me off I hate seeing it I I hate seeing it I I hate
Seeing it I hate seeing it pisses me off that pisses me off yeah I mean that was he was a great fighter man Rock he had he had bricks in he had rocks in his hands for real bro I mean but did he perforate Barry Michaels eardrum or something like that
He did yeah perforated his eard drum I remember the it was in Windsor it was in Windsor England yeah battered it smashed him up ibf champion from Australia it was on a Saturday afternoon I saw it he give it listen he just and Barry could fight on the inside
But not not against Rocky bro his first title fight that was a fight with a subo Pedroza too oh yeah yeah yeah you save your pza yeah yeah yeah Rock fight man yeah yeah they don’t they don’t make him like those those men anymore man I’m tell you
I mean Pedroza made about 11 defenses man he was we wanted to see dir he was a dirty [Â __Â ] though I tell you that he was dir he was dirty very dirty he has wicked wicked body punches though wicked wicked body shots yeah yeah yeah I remember mcgan man mcgan
Took the belts took the belt of we never got to see Pedroza versus um Salvador Sanchez we never got to see that un yeah I think would beat pza man I think he would have beat him I think Pedroza is a great fighter don’t get me
Wrong but I still think he would have beat him and mind you he fought Pedroza in his 17 fight and it was Split Decision he got stopped by Juan lorte lorte is a [Â __Â ] big that’s another guy we can’t forget Juan LTE put onte man I remember when they put him over here
Just before mcgan fought Pedroza and he hit Barry with them them big shots he near stopped him man but Barry Barry man to eat them shots Pedroza was tough as anything man I mean LTE lorte one LTE from New York yeah yeah Puerto Ric from New York he was tough as anything man
Really yeah yeah yeah yeah see like you know these Fighters like in this era here with all the belts and they they would have thrived man they would have thrived they would have thrived but everybody we ever see Fighters like that again beats nope no no no no the only
Way if if the Saudis and more people inject big money because you see that Saudi money it’s exposing it’s exposing a few people you know what I mean it’s exposing a few people cuz like it forced Deontay Wilder into the ring against Parker and we found out that you know
His levels of competition got exposed he got exposed by Joseph Parker who yeah so all that time like his his fan base was saying that he was as good as Ali and he’s an alltime great you put him in with Joseph Parker you know and then you realize like who’s Deontay been fighting
Who’s he been beating what Luis Ortiz no nobody’s he fought [Â __Â ] ber he fought no one yeah champ 10 stiffs stiffs man stiffs stiffs fighting a stiffs yeah well you know what I would do right now if I would take over Deontay Wilder’s career I would try to arrange a fight with Jake
Paul for multi-million dollarss and um you know boxing today it’s it’s a business and I would maximize that business by putting those two in the ring I don’t think Jake Paul could hurt him and I’d like to see Paul R why would why would Jake fight Deontay Wilder for the bad for [Â __Â ]
Million a piece money to they’re not going to pay they’re not going to pay him that not that I I I think they could get that much money I think they could really get the boxing fans to be watching it and they could get all Jake Paul’s [Â __Â ] uh
Twitter fans to be watching it so it would be uh it would be a crossover and um I mean you know Deontay is doing the ioska he doesn’t want to hurt anybody I mean this this dude is is loving life now he’s not he’s not gonna he’s not
Gonna be a threat to any active heavyweight again he’s not going to win a title I mean make the money bro [Â __Â ] you know he don’t want no more more bodies on his record he just wants to he just wants to fit in and and make
Some D and man are you kidding me crossover Jake Paul Jake Paul still got some he he still wants to prove himself what better way than go in there with a former heavyweight champion damn come on $100 pay-per-view I understand that that that sounds that sounds tantalizing to
You but okay you got to remember if he say if he wakes up for this fight and he really takes it half ass serious you know that kid can get really badly hurt right I don’t know I don’t know can pull it together and do that man I don’t I
Don’t know if he can anymore okay I’m just saying this if Deontay Wilder connects flush on that kid’s face that kid is going to call the Senators the congressman the president to make sure boxing is banned in the sport in the boing his b in America and internationally I’m telling you this
That is complete nonsense I understand you would want him to do that I understand you it may sound good but he would could completely rag doll or I could be wrong but I think I I I don’t think I’m wrong in this one you’ll get raged all he’ll get embarrassed boxing
Is a circus right now like like we saw last night when tiimo Lopez came in the ring led by the freaking three- ring circus with the he had he had everybody had the sword swallower there he had that the fat lady was there I mean uh it
Was uh it kind of showed the the state of boxing what’s going on today and um why not why not [Â __Â ] bring bring on the clowns BR on Deontay Wilder versus Jake Paul there there’s there’s no incentive for Jake Paul to take a fight like that at all because he he’s he’s
Not a proper boxer there’s no incentive at all well he get punched went to the Olympics why went to the Olympics man like you know for I think J Paul’s fourth or fifth Tok on the pipe I think he’s ready to get in the ring with wilder no drug testing for this
F yeah you’re funny man you’re funny you are just saying this it’s not gonna go well for him at all oh man ah I gotta ask you guys a question this is a a uh this is a hypothetical fight mythical matchup auma Nelson versus uh Rocky
Lockage at 130 who you think would win that they both came up from 126 so I think they’re both around the same you know side who would win at what weit 135 no no no no that 130 130 uh zoma Nelson uh the best African fighter ever Undisputed best African fighter ever
Versus uh uh Rocky lck who wins don’t know I’m not good with a lot of them know I I’d say isuma Nelson probably but you think isuma Nelson beats Rocky lockd yeah at 30 why not both of them hit incredibly hard his best 126 really Yuma but um why not man not I
You I CL I have clue I have a got clue I clue ridiculously if I was gonna I remember Zuma Nelson hit some I remember I was watching some highlights of the Zuma Nelson he had a guy with a left hook his head bounced off the canvas so violently us [Â __Â ] this African
[Â __Â ] can punch you remember when we knocked that Pat Cowell in in one round yeah Birmingham NC Tim Rivers Bo was on the undercard against Sam scaff I remember it I remember it one upper cut first Pell took Salvador Sanchez the dist he did he he did and he did take that gu
Just a former Olympian and all that but man it was a left uppercut he got he he got hit with a left uppercut he got put to sleep sleep sleep and the and the and the uh the commentator was pissed off because Zuma Nelson and his team were
Crating well Kell was slumped on the canvas I said like what what do you expect man what do you expect Zuma Nelson and Jeff were those were a couple of uh very very intriguing fights yep oh yeah the F the first was a draw wasn’t it that yeah yeah
Wasn’t it fenick who who we thought got robbed in the first fight yeah a lot of shots you know but I I watched it the other month you know it was like Nelson done a lot of countering on the ropes man but the rematch bro like the way
Finished the counters was sick man he knocked fix’s block off man took apart yeah F Hey listen man I got I gotta I gotta go feed my dog and do some stuff right glad you glad you invited me on There man peace to you brother yeah to I FN is probably the best Australian fighter yeah he is he is the best Australian fighter period Point Blank I don’t I don’t know anyone else who was better would you gonna say Tony mandine no Anthony mundine no no he’s the best
Anthony M son of dad of Tony yeah well both with the same thing he got knocked out cold by Sven Aki I said like Sven can’t knock anybody out he knocks you out and not only does he Knock You Out knocks you out cold yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and you
Know frit Sudan uh train Sven Aki and the Klitschko brothers at one point in time you know he said on his ring IQ the best I’ve ever trained he said faki was the hardest puncher he ever worked with I find that hard to believe but he said
Svan always wanted to win by he was a master boxer he was a tech he was a technical guy so he didn’t want to knock people out he just wanted to win on points but if he had to he could he always had that in his uh
Repertoire I’m not sure about that me too me too but you know frck Sudan neck was probably that was he he had a he had a uh affinity for him but it is what it is all right you got any last um last musings you want to CH talk about before
We get out of acris let me know my last musing my last musing is this uh I think Richardson hiton should be Gustavo Lemos but this is a tough Argentinian guy with some real decent power but I I’m a Haitian compatriot I I got I I got
Nothing but a confidence in his uh boxing skill sometimes he can be a little bit annoying on the internets and everything talk calling people out and everything but you know he he wants a title shot and you know let’s give it to him let’s see if he can uh you know uh
Uh get it but that’s just what I think I think he beats Gustavo but if Gustavo wins he knocks Richardson out yeah Gustavo would need a one punch hit her against the Run of Play Because Richardson just washes him all day on boxing washes him all day you know I
Mean like I I saw Gustavo against Lee Selby and Lee Selby had him cut up and was Landing full blooded right cross his plant and his feet and Landing him but he he got rid of Selby because Selby was on his way up but you know Selby never had any toally different yes
Yeah different different proposition from that totally different proposition you me well it is what it is as as always thank you for always letting me on to uh talk boxing with you beats till next time brother no problem all right right big up all the hang out we out of being there I
Mean peace
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"Loma is a white hope"??? Is this the ldbc now wtf? Lee Wylie has some incredible videos highlighting Loma's footwork and guard manipulation that harkens back to the all-time-greats…. but I guess he doesn't have enough melanin huh? Try being more like RingIQ, have some people from all parts of the world around so it doesn't turn into whatever this is.
You're just a Ryan hater. Tank placed Spies & multiple clauses on Ryan. Tank made sure to weaken Ryan as much as possible. It wasn't a fair fight. Ryan vs Haney is a real & fair fight.