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Right then folks and we got a treating store for  you today not only one of my favorite venues in   your wide world ba and whole fishery but I’m going  to be fishing on one of my favorite methods in the  

Whole wide world which is wagler and it couldn’t  have worked out better to be fair folks last night   temperatures dropped to like 6 degrees it was 6  degrees in my V when I set off this morning and  

It’s great for showcasing what I want to show  you today which is sort of wagler coming into   Autumn don’t get me wrong we’re where are we  now we’re sort of like getting towards middle   of September it’s still going to be sort of red up  through the days but it’s these cold nights what  

Happens with the fish they tend to want to feed  up a lot because obviously the next thing on the   agenda is obviously the winter Slumber and sort  of like hibernating so what these face certainly  

The skimmers and the roach need to do uh is feed  up so hopefully I’m going to Target some of them   I’m sure we’ll get some smaller fish maybe the  odd C but certainly on this pool here on Lodge  

Pool there’s lots and lots of decent skimmers up  to sort of four five pound in weight uh loads of   roach in that and I’m going to be using not not  so much traditional tactics or traditional baits   and maggots and casters I’m going to be using  things like pellets and certainly sweet corn  

Feeding little sort of like soft balls of ground  bait uh with some micros in just to get these fish   really competing and hopefully feeding up uh and  that can show you lovely lot exactly how we go  

About it so without further Ado I’m going to get  s s sat down on me peg go and get me 13t wag Rod   out and uh get it geared up and hopefully we’ll  get snarled up into some lovely skim is [Music]

Yeah right then folks so here we are then we’re  all set up and we going to talk you lovely lot   through exactly how I’m going to approach these  wonderful fishes today here at baen Hall um what  

You’ve got to bear in mind though is ignore the  sun it’s it’s boiling not now we’re not even at   10:00 it’s boiling up but it’s been so cold the  night before and this is what I want to sort of  

Like get across to you that you can attack your  peg a little bit give it a little bit of feed   which is what you’re going to do but you’ve got to  be careful with sort of um how many free offerings  

You given them if you like you know sort of like  the the particles I want to be really selective   today otherwise if I was fishing natural baits  I’d get M with like little babby roaches little  

Babby PS things like that there’s so many of them  in here it’s going to make for a fantastic like   winter series on there I can’t wait for it but  um yeah that’s why I wanted fish baits like uh  

Corn maybe six mil pellet things like that just to  try and get through to some of these massive bream   and skimmers so first things first I’m fishing a  wagler simply because conditions blend themselves  

To it today folks with it being really bright you  know the fish are going to sort of spook off your   Pole Line especially when that water starts to  go a little bit clearer so let’s go through the  

Setup first things first I’m going to go from  the real end obviously I’ve talked through this   loads and loads and loads on on videos but it’s  so important that I go through it again um real  

Size I’m going to say anything from sort of like  a two and a half to 3 and a half thousand reel uh   this is uh the ctis 3,000 reel um you know not  overly cumbersome not tiny but just a nice size  

Reel you don’t anything too big like your you know  your four 5,000 feeder style size reels they they   have no place like this style of fishing where  when you’re looking to cast especially with the   wagler setup I’ve got when you’re looking to  cast no more than sort of 25 M just nice and  

Comfy nice fishing um that is loaded with 16 and  it’s our float MAX Line um again conditions lend   themselves today perfectly for having that line  floating you know there’s no wind um if there  

Was wind on the venue and obviously I was pleasy  fishing I’d go try and pick it so the wind was   on me back don’t really want a side win with  this obviously depending on how quick you’re   getting bites if you’re getting bites within sort  of seconds of your float Landing it doesn’t really  

Matter if you got a bit of a bone your line but  ultimately I want to keep my line as straight as   possible so 16 which is around about3 now the  reason for that is because when it comes to me  

Float I’m using quite a light float um and I want  to I want to get to the the area where I’m fishing   nice and comfortable I don’t want to be sort  of like forcing that uh that float out because  

Obviously I’m using bait straight on the hook  certainly corn it’s pretty soft if I’m forcing   that that Rod too much then my bait’s going to fly  off so I just want to give it a nice sort of like  

Light press out so the float goes exactly where I  want it to and you’ll only achieve that by using a   finer main line of line if you like so that’s why  I’ve gone for 16 coming on next to the rod itself  

I’ve always said you need sort of 13 foot minimum  for for these kind of uh venues and for the time   of year but 12 foots 12 foots are all right you  know certainly for the distance that I’m fishing  

Today um not overly you know fishing that far you  get away with the 12T Rod but ideally it wants   to be on the softest side certainly for the likes  of these skimmers or you know f1s car a car don’t  

Blow me out of a car but as I said we’re not tight  will hopefully not targeting them today if they   come along they come along uh so ideally a nice  soft action Rod nothing sort of poke in the tip  

You want a nice through action and these Super  X rods are absolutely superb for that so 13 12   minimum 13 ft is the ideal uh length Rod cheeky  so next thing will come to set up I’ve talk you  

Through Plumbing up and everything as well uh  but set up so first things first uh I’m using   the stops pelet wagler kit that goes on so you get  one uh stop above you get the swivel in the middle  

Snaplink swivel and you get two two stops below  which is perfect for you know if I want to change   that wagler nice and quick should conditions  change on the day or I feeling as though I want  

To TU a little bit further I can uncp that nice  and click ex that nice and quick rather exactly   what you do with a pelet wagler put a heavier  float on or vice versa you know if it’s too heavy  

I could drop to a lighter one it’s a dead simple  and also the beauty of them is you can move them   nice and easy on your line to change depths you  know if the fish are feeding through the water  

Then obviously can knock depth off and soever so  on and so on now coming down the line so it’s it’s   set at the minute around sort of 4 and 1/2 foot  which is plum to death but I want to go through  

Plumbing with you shortly I’ve got three number  eight number eight now starts and not shots you   know obviously a massive fur using shots on me  pole rigs you know when I’ve got them like nice   uh spread where I don’t want them to move but we  wagler fishing plumber neck I might be changing  

Me depths multiple times throughout the session  so what you’ve then got to do is move your shots   obviously for it to register to bite so fish  are feeding through the water and I do like to   use quite positive shots certainly for this time  of year and obviously with the bait that we’re  

On so I’ve got three number eights I’ve got one  there which is what probably 2 and 1/2 foot from   a hook one there 10 in below that I’ve got another  number eight and then 10 in below that below that  

Rather I’ve got another number eight and I’ve  got me hook length on which is folks let me   just put that rod down so I can show you you know  how we don’t like to mess about ear so I’ve got a  

14s GP M to 15 I’ve got one of them on I’ve also  got some uh sfls which are on3 but 14 Zs I’m not   bothered you know the fish they’re still feeding  you know what I mean it was it was red hot sort of  

Last week but it’s only just start to come colder  but this this video in particular is like how you   go about targeting it when we do get proper into  sort of like Autumn you know you get them really  

Cold nights you can still get away with sort of  like bigger standout bait so that’s why in turn   I want to use it a bigger hook I don’t want to  be using sort of like 18s and 16s uh 14s 12s  

Even you know what I mean get get lots of maggots  on there get you know a bigger piece of corn and   get like a you know if I was using pellets I’d  be on a on a banded pellet so don’t go too sort  

Of like small too early Mainline makes a massive  difference that’s one of the things you got to   consider obviously because I’m only using a light  Flo I’m not casting it far um and obviously the  

Other things is obviously real size and your Rod  if you get all them combined nice and you’re not a   problem at all so that’s a setup I’m not doing  anything complicated what I will say is we’ll  

Probably do this towards as a session progresses  is I’ll move around with these shots I’ve got them   spread at the minute but what I’ll do if I really  want to get down to the to where the fish are nice  

And quick as I said I’m not really interested  in fishing through the water you know how much   I love fishing shallow but I want to fish on the  bottom for these fish so if needs to and this is  

The beauty of starts I can move them down I can  have you know a little tiny bulk of T but eight   a me droper or if that’s not positive enough and  I’m still not see SE in the bites then I’ll just  

Move all them number eights down just to above  the uh the hook length there which will be about   what 7 in or something like that so I can fish  really positive and really detect them bites even  

Take a number eight off and put it on the hook  length you know I will fish slightly over depth   you know couple of inches over depth which leads  me on nicely to Plumbing up I’m going to show you  

Exactly how to Plum up now it’s not like how you’d  think you’d Plum up on a pole with a plummet and   all that no no no if you go chucking in a pluming  plummet all over the place you’re going to scare  

Fish into you know other people’s pegs instantly  so we’re Plumbing up with a with a nice big shot   so let’s see how we do that now right then the all  important Plumbing note but how dare I not mention  

What kind of waglers we using before just forgot  all about it folks is I uh right so what you’ve   got to consider this time year I mean obviously  all all times year I love using certainly for   this style of fishing traditional fishing insert  waglers but you potentially get away even with  

Like straight waglers for now I’m not going  to say they’re they’re not the best for it but   with how these fish are feeding up and obviously  certainly we car then you certainly get away with   the straight waglers which you probably you know  more traditionally used for like your pelic wagler  

Fishing or on rivers or something but ideally if  you’ve got some insert wagglers and what I mean by   insert is obviously these bristles interchange  and the insert into the top of your float just   a lot more sensitive and little a lot better for  bike detection so if you got inserts ideally use  

Them but you know still while it’s still that  little bit warmer you’ll get away with the with   the straights but when it comes into winter you  do not want to go anywhere near them folks with  

These kind of fish yeah you must must use insert  waglers so that out of the way I’m using uh a two   G one today so it’s one of our it’s one and a half  uh which is loaded uh and then it’s 0.5 to like  

Dot it down now well I said dot it down I don’t  want to really dot my float down today like I   would say in the winter I’m going to be bringing  it down so I’ve got got sort of I don’t know a  

Good half an inch maybe 3/4 of an inch showing  cuz when these fish take the baay and going to be   fishing over depth I want to make sure they’re on  probably miss a few bites but remember if I miss  

A bite folks it’s a line bite it’s not a proper  bite yeah what I don’t want to do is dot it right   the way down like that I’m not looking for them  little dinks uh I want to ignore all them because  

We’ll be joining still a lot of fish in the peg so  I want to ignore all these little line bites when   that float goes down hopefully nice and slow and  that’s it fish will be on so that’s that bit over  

Of the way right all out of the way leder well not  Ledger bombs big shot so I’ve got me special Big   Shots here now what I’ll use is something like  that uh an SSG or triple SG something like that  

Make sure your float’s shuted right first so what  you don’t want to do is put an unloaded float on   um because if some other floats that you’re using  the the weight that you’re putting on your hook  

Might not be enough to sink the float if that  makes sense so make sure your float is shuted   right first and then you know that this is going  to sink your float if you’re not on the the bottom  

Right so first thing we want to do then is put  that on our hook so dead simple I’m just going   to literally put the hook into the slot cheeky  and then just tighten on to that and give it a  

Bite down and that’s what you’re left with yeah  so you’ve got your your big shot on your hook now   casting wise don’t wind your float right the way  up to your Rod tip because all you’re going to  

Get is just going to get your your float coming  straight down for your Rod tip and just going to   making a a horrible commotion in the water make  sure you’ve got a good I’m going to say five six  

7 foot of line something like that between your  your Rod tip and your float when you’re casting   out now it’s not overly deep here now this is on  the bottom or it was before so I want to show you  

What you do so basically when you go into cast  I’ve got a nice bit of line out come back behind   me now my marker is around sort of the point of  of the island if you like but I’m not bothered  

About being overly spread I’m not bothered about  that uh you know that that big area it’s not like   again pole fishing when you got a little Bobby  pot on and you’re putting a little bait in you  

Get them in a little column I want to get loads of  fishing me P that’s the beauty of using sort of a   big standout hookbait like corn you can get them  over a big area I don’t want to be overly accurate  

Right so waffling away you can see uh me floats  out of the water now so I know for the fact that   I’m on the bottom yeah but I’m going to bring that  back and I’m knock 6 in off it so all we do dead  

Simple obviously with these stops you’re pulling  them down sort of 6 in and then pulling that other   one down so now we should be off the bottom and  we shouldn’t be able to see that float just want  

To show you how simple it is and what I do is a as  a r so again around about the point of the island   20 M I don’t want to be casting more than 20 22  M at the absolute most so so let all that slack  

Resistance go and you’ll see now that we can’t see  our float so obviously we knew on the btom before   so what what I’ll do now if the First cast I put  in I can see me float and then I’ll come down at  

6 in intervals until I stop seeing me float and  then I’ll go up at 2in intervals so I can get a   really really accurate reading on my float and  know exactly how much over depth I am if that  

Makes sense so can’t see me float so I’m going to  come back and put it up 2 in yeah bit it’s one of   them it’s a little bit you know fauy if you like  but it’s summer you’ve just got to do folks it’s  

Like makes a massive difference and it’s perfect  conditions like this for you to do it so I’ll put   that float up 2 in again the around point of the  island which is perfect feather it down and just  

Let out a load of slack let me see that float just  let all that slack go I can just about see the tip   under under the water cuz it’s like yeah you can  see that tip just coming up now just under the  

Surface of the water you getting in on that result  you not see it it’s literally just just under   probably about an inch under so if I put another  two Ines on that and i’ be able to see that float  

I say it’s it’s perfect today obviously been  bright and probably got about 10 in of visibility   in the water I can see that pling yellow bristle  really clear so if I put that up on another 2 in  

100% I’ll be able to see me float this time I’m  going cast that out again again in that same area on there point of the island 20 of MERS let  all that slack go just let that line sort of like  

Come back against itself and you can see now we  can see that float yeah you got that result he’s   on it the loud so nice straight line point to the  island I know that I’m fishing over dep so before  

It was just under the surface so we’re probably  like an inch inch off I’ve gone two 2 in more   so that means I’m an inch over now I’m going to  put another sort of two or three inches on that  

Cuz I want to make sure that I’ve got a lot of  line on the bottom I probably have that well I   will have that much bristle out so that when a  fish takes that bait I know I know that it’s on  

If that makes sense so we know we on the bottom  there about an inch over but I wouldn’t be more   than that if it was windy and there like Towing  of any you folks I’d go that full float you know  

Um you go you go right over depth depending  on obviously all the fish having it so that   on there so I’m going to put that up another sort  of 2 in and then put my shots up to it so I know  

Now that I’ll be roughly sort of like dragging  3 to four Ines of uh hot length on the bottom   now 6in hook length obviously videos I’ve done in  the past certainly for like you know winter style   fishing for catching everything like hopefully  we will do today you’ll you’ll have known that  

I do like to use longer hook lmbs 10 12in hook LMS  again for this style of fishing you know where we   want to be a little bit more positive and using  different baits then that’s why I’ll use a short  

Hook L as soon as a fish takes picks that bait up  with a big Hulk I want it to sort of like jolt off   a little bit and that’s why I’m fishing a lot  of line on the bottom so it’s going to give me  

The best chance of hitting byes remember don’t  miss proper bites uh and that’s it’s all it’s   dead dead simple the only thing that I will play  around with not much probably depth today unless   we’re getting like you know a few liners or maybe  foul up face and I’ll come a little bit shallower  

Uh if I’m feel I’m missing by and again I’ll go  a little bit deeper the main thing that I’ll play   around with is probably these shots you know if  I’m not seeing the bites quick enough then I’ll  

Quickly move this uh drop a shot down not third  one bring it into me middle one and then if I’m   still missing bites I’ll bring them all down and  put them right on my hook length Sim similar to  

How you’d like you know fish with a with a pole  rig you know nice and positive his shots right   down near near hook length so you seeing them  bites as soon as you happen um that’s it for  

Plumbing up you know dead simple I’m ready to fish  but before ad do we’re going to go through bait so   uh so we just go through bait now all we don’t  need a separate one for that do we yeah let’s  

Go through bait so what I’ve got is I’ve got I  mean ignore the the six mil pellets in this but   basically super Crush expanded ground bait for me  folks certainly on these kind of venues where you  

Just want sort of like the center of that ground  bait bringing the fish into your Peg and you don’t   want to overly feed them up because you wanted  to pick your hook bait out the sunny bait super   Crush expander is probably the bestest ground  bait in the all wide world I absolutely adore  

It uh as I say you know the six mil pellets uh  basically what I do I get two level fill um tubs   with the ground bait first and then it’s exactly  same amount of water so two lots of ground bait  

Two lots of water leave it for sort of like 20  minutes half an hour give it a mix to then put it   through a four mil riddle and that’s what you’re  left with you’re left with a lovely fine but like  

Really sort of binding mix basically when I’m  when I’m binding my mix I’m using these fingers   so I’m getting sort of like an accurate ball c  g I’m getting an accurate ball all the time yeah   there’s going to be some weed one today folks  but as I say I’m not overly bothered basically  

I’m using them fingers to come into the ground  bait to give it that initial squeeze and then   I’ll mold that into a bowl so it’s roughly I mean  it’s a big grape in it but it’s like I don’t know  

What kind of fruit you’d sort of like resemble  that to come quat I don’t know it’s like a a big   grape it’s that kind of thing but like grape size  to sort of like extra extra extra large grape size  

That’s what you want you don’t want anything too  big or nothing too small but basically once that   hits the water it’s going to pretty much explode  on impact but it’s the sense in the particles and  

The other thing that I’ve got in there is as I  saying about the particles is some 2 mil micos   now what I did with them as soon as I got here  soaked them for sort of 50 seconds to a minute in  

The water took them out and that’s it they’re good  to go not interested in binding them into a ball   or anything like that I just want to add them to  me mix of ground bait so it keeps them fish sort  

Of grubbing around and then the other thing I’ve  got is obviously our beautiful corn um I I hook   this different when I’m fishing on the waget to I  would hook it on a pole which will go through but  

Basically I’m not going to be feeding hardly any  of this I’m going to be firing in sort of like 10   to a dozen bits of corn every flipping NE every  maybe 15 minutes I really really want them to  

Pick my hookbait out that’s what I’m not overly  concerned about obviously the ground bait going   in it’s that initial they hear the noise and the  sort of like com into your peg it’s the center of  

That ground bait the MOs getting feeding but then  when they see that big bright yellow piece of corn   it just stands out over anything and they just  nail the bait it’s a fabulous way of fishing this  

Year I absolutely adore it um so I think that’s me  done with waffling let’s go and catch some [Music] fishies [Music] right can’t wait for this M for I’ve got  fish fizzing on the bait I put a little bit of  

Bait out probably put around 20 grains of corn  out and I’ll give it four sort of like the what   do we say the word like a come quat big grape  size balls of uh ground bait with a few micros  

In typical though folks as on Q literally the  wind has just G up so what that’s going to do   to presentation who knows but hopefully we’ll  be able to catch you some skimmers early on now  

You remember me saying I do you won’t be able  to see from there but I hook me corn on the   wagler slightly different so when I’m fishing on  the pole I hook it through the side so me hooks  

Really uh exposed but when I’m fishing with  a wagler I hook it right down the middle so   the the corns Landing sort of straight but your  hooks out the other way if you like it just seems  

To hold on a lot better you won’t be able to see  from there so I don’t even know why I’m showing   you but right here we go then First cast First  cast point to the island feather it in I mean  

I’m not overly bothered about Feathering it to  be fair um but because obviously the the shots   in your and your your hook baits pretty heavy I  mean don’t get me wrong you yeah Feathering is  

Is best but don’t overly worry about it too much  it just lands in a bit of a clump so you can see   you can see there that we’ve got fish fizzing so  I’m not going to feed at the moment now bearing  

In mind like I’ve only started fishing this Lake  probably well about a month five weeks ago me and   Jamie did a challenge match on there on a feeder  few pegs away and we couldn’t believe how good it  

Was so that like since then I’m like right I’m  doing everything at B and all it’s amazing it   is evident that the fish love feeds I’m not going  to go too long without feeding not give them going  

To give them loads of corn uh it’s the ground bait  that they seem to come to certainly on that feeder   it was like every 90 seconds 2 minutes if you  didn’t have a fish like within that time you’d  

Have to wind Back cast it in again uh so I can’t  see it being any different on uh on this in that   I’ve got to put quite a bit of bait in so it’s  just started to drift a little bit that float  

Now which you’d expect with his bloing wind and  I’m not sinking me line say I don’t want to be   in there overly long once I feel that my float is  out of the the catchment area I’m going to bring  

It in cast in again as it is now though there’s  bling there’s fish fizzing around around me float   going to see if can men that and see how much of  a drift on that I’ve got that’s still acceptable  

Remember I’ve got a good sort of 4 Ines of line  on the bottom which will hold uh me rig in place   that that little bit longer um don’t know me  wrong I have got the option to oh here we go  

We’re getting a bite then I have got the option  that’s why I’m you can see how much bristle I’ve   got out so we probably drifted about a hey he’s  on first truck for you then folks so you see we  

Probably had about a meter drift on that then  but I’m not bothered you know what I mean these   fish the size of these fish oh my days look  at these skimmery Bobs some of you might even  

Say these are bam they’re just just amazing I  can’t get enough of this style of fishing for   this time of year and we’re not fishing far  out either so we’re soon under your Rod tape

And oh folks look at these you see he’s blown  the the corn up the line look at the state of   that this I think this is going to be Z’s faest  ever place in the old wide world right in the  

Bottom LP which You’ expect fishing over de  but look at the look at that folks for the   first fish of the day probably 2 and a half pound  something like that beautiful skimmer and a lot   of these pluming that folks have never even been  caught before literally never seen a hook that  

Was like really evident the first time I fished  it last year um cuz it’s predominantly sort of   like a a c water um you know or like a runs water  these these skimmers and like roach and ibds and  

Pits they all get sort of like left if you like  and pluming heck it’s it’s just ridiculous this   venue but you know obviously if you don’t live  anywhere near this place uh you’ll have venues   like this that has obviously got carp in you see  a lot of like uh fish meal-based products you  

Know maze corn things like that so there’ll be a  load of sort of like silverfish you know skimmers   roach that are just going to get overlooked  you know from people fishing for car go and  

Check them out folks that’s all I can say got to  go and check them out I’m having another going   I’m definitely going to feed this time so on with  another piece of corn well they’re still fishing   there actually it didn’t make much commotion  so he’s drifted it’s probably about a meter  

From where I want to be that but that’s where  I had that last fish so I’m going to leave that   see what happens obviously at the minute I’ve got  them shot spread to give me option of potentially  

Catching through the water although number eight  STS though they are going to sink pretty quick uh   and it’s only sort of like 4 and 1/2 foot deep  no more than 5 foot certainly um but yeah I’m  

Just going to leave it that a little bit long so  put put a little bit of bait in um I don’t want   to I don’t think you can overdo it though folks  you know what I mean I really don’t I’m pretty  

Convinced that if you just welled loads of Casters  in you’d end up catching these shallow it’s just   ridiculous but obviously for the the time of year  that I want to sort of focus on that that autumnn  

Time you know when everything does start thinking  about shutting down and it’s going a bit cold the   water starts to go a bit clearer these tactics  work so well uh certainly rod and line gets away  

From the fact that obviously Clear Water the fish  can’t get Spooks off the pole over the Reds if you   like um but it’s just that way feeding you know  introducing that ground bait not so much l than  

Often because sometimes they they’ll want it you  know if I don’t get one this time I’m definitely   going to feed next time they want it all the  time uh with a bit of particles in to keep them  

Grubbing and then obviously your big standout  hookbait over the top so as I say corn wise   I’m going to feed 10 to a dozen grains every 10  or 15 minutes I’ve got a I’ve got some swirling  

In me Peg there it’s not car it’s a big skimmer  or hybrid or some yeah greens a corn every 10 or   uh 10 to 15 minutes and then the ball I don’t  know every sort of probably every other cast  

Maybe every sort of five four or five minutes I’ll  have to see what what happens certain if I don’t   get a fish this time I will put another ball in  now what I’m going to do oh another little dink  

Then what I’m going to do with the ground bait is  not follow me float if you like because I’m not   clipped up I don’t want to be clipped up I’m not  interested in that I want to cast around the area  

Uh I don’t want to be like overly accurate took to  a clip because I’m fishing fairly light if I took   to a clip and O some it light massive it’s shut  off I might not be able to get me clip undone in  

Time so I want to be casting around the area and  obv the beauty of venues like this that are pretty   silty they’ll give you a good indication of where  they are obviously at the minute I’m out of the  

The area where it’s you know sort of fizzing  at the most if you like which you know ain’t   a problem we still expect to catch fish that’s  where I caught the last one from but obviously  

It’s telling me that the fish are obviously where  the the Fizz in that’s where the main amount of   uh fish are um so I’m not going to leave it overly  long before I wind back in and cast it in again I  

Think that’s what I need to I’m going to do it  now I’m going to do it now I’m pretty I’m I’m   convinced so folks just left left it and left it  and left these every time I will eventually catch

Fish I’ll do there yes what was saying before  about the ground bait now I’m not oh I could he   say we had one on the drop I was expecting that  do apologize for it’s got a bit giddy probably a  

Roach or something like that or rud that’s if  the ruding there might not even be any pluming   ring in I don’t know I’m sure there would be  uh what was I saying about before waffling  

That much folks oh yeah ground bait wise so what’s  important is I don’t want to feed where me float   LS every time because my floats going over a  bit of an area yeah I’m not overly concerned  

About getting me ground bait bang on me float I  want to make sure I’m putting me ground bait in   the same spot every time which my marker is the  point of the island so I don’t want it round me  

Float I want the float to drift into that so you  see where I put that ground right there that’s   where I’ve got the main amount of Fizz and it’s  lined up with the point of the island yeah because  

If I started chasing me float round all all the  time with a ground bait I’m going to get pockets   of fish Here There and Everywhere so make sure  you’ve got your marker which for me is point of  

The island and you cashing it on that um sorry  catapulting the ground bait on that every time   rather than just sort of like ball over there ball  over there ball past it ball short ball left ball  

Right that kind of thing don’t want to be doing  that because the fish should be like oh where we   going now oh where we going now different sort of  like your particle bait you know what I mean but  

With ground bait where it’s only going to sort  of like break up into that area you don’t want   little pockets of fish everywhere so I’ll just  let that that’s drifting that’s going to drift   through lovely into where they’re fizzing that  is looks perfect seems weird having sort of like  

That much bristle out but you’ve got to on venues  like this certainly when they you know rock up in   numbers you’ve got to have a bit of bristle out if  you if that was dotted fish comes into it knocks  

It with its Fin and goes under you striking then  you’re just not going to catch him obviously the   liners so by having a bit of bristle out just  gives him time to uh to take it obviously apart  

From that last one that took it on the drop right  we getting right into the catch zone now if you   like folks there’s a lot of lot of fishing going  on there probably about a meter maybe two meters  

Short of where I first cast it but not bothered  all see that was another skimmer that it’s up in   the water then over me uh over me feed God it’s  mad this just venue wise folks I just can’t can’t  

Tell you how good it is but another little bit of  a Fizz there oh here we go here we go just what I   mean about fishing over depth you know there’s one  on your on your hook bait or you know one around  

Your around your your your bait you that a little  bit of a bit of a dink then so if you’re fishing   any any f would just struck at that oh yeah see  what I mean yeah so make sure you fishing over dep  

And got a lot of this water and then you don’t  miss him oh my days folks I am in heaven it is just can’t tell you can’t tell you how much I  adore this style of fishing absolutely brilliant  

And obviously if we did catch some at like great  big and cpy we’re not fishing over your light   you know got 15 Mainline on Big H then he just  gives you every chance of getting them in you  

Know what I mean yeah boy what I would say nice  long uh Landing that handle you know when you’re   fishing on shallower venues like this don’t use  your short of two and three meter handles that   You’ use for you know sort of like your maybe your  traditional um sort of shallow beautiful skimmer  

That pound 12 or something that you use feel like  you can’t fishing with your short kit got a nice   long ideally 4 M handle because of your longer  rods and you know shallower water than fish as  

Soon as you pop up you want to be on them straight  away just what fishing again folks slime on your   line which you’ll get from these fish make sure  you wipe it all off and then check your hook no  

Slime on that and then you straight back in  business again get that slime off oh n would   get a fish then it’s coming right right over that  catchment area again there’s still fishing there’s   still fish around there I mean obviously match  conditions are probably probably be a little bit  

More aggressive maybe but don’t need to be today  but I’m still going to feed anyway I want to put   another little ball in again just make sure that  the same size every time another little bowling  

Around the area and we put some corn in this time  as well sort of like 10 to a dozen grains of corn   again not overly bothered if the you know go over  a massive area don’t bother me just get that baai  

In don’t bother me at all and it’s a case you  just we’re not even have to wait long are we I   said the main thing is fishing over depth with  quite a bit of bristle showing for this style  

Of fishing I just I adore it takes me right back  to Bas folks takes me right back to days at the   minute it’s perfect obviously with the lime but  if you had any you know sort of wind on with the  

Lime floating it will be taking it off off of  course a little bit so then what you’d have to   do is obviously maybe put a heavier wagler on  overcast where you’re fishing submerge Your Rod  

Tip and sink your line um but for today I think  that sometimes that little bit of a drift does   actually help you know what I mean certainly  when you got like the the spread of your bait  

Going on you can you know T them fish over a over  a big area so the main patch of bubbles are just   this side of me float so what I’m going to do  straighten that line a little bit just bringing  

Me float back perfect oh yeah look at that fizz  in there right on me float if there was tension   you said there would tench but I don’t know if  there’s tension so they probably not tench they’re  

Going to be slimy popadoms aren’t they go on the  popadoms oh look at that folks it’s going to go   you just know it’s going to go come on getting  a little bit more wind on that uh on that ser  

Now not ideal but I don’t think it’ll matter for  for this time of year and for you know these fish   sometimes a little bit of a little bit bit of a  drift’s fine so I’m going to carry on hopefully  

Getting snared up in even more skimmers and bream  so why don’t you join us in a bit and we’ll see   what we’re getting on yeah boy right you lovely  lot about an hour in and it’s just it’s just  

Amazing you see what this light fizzing there um  I’ve only had to make one sort of like oh look at   that one slight change in that spin to bring one  of the number eight shots down to the middle one  

To the top one I brought down to the middle one  just because I didn’t feel as though I was seeing   the bites quick enough everything that I’ve had  I’ve had to usually Discord on which is great  

Means that they’re not going to fall off not lost  any folks I promise um but I just want to see him   a little bit quicker and since I’ve done that  I’ve been Hing him in the mouth still getting  

The odd one Discord you but it’s just just been  amazing um feeding wise I’ve just been on with   that little ball every every cast in pretty much  again keeping it on that marker on that line on  

That island not chasing me FL out and then I’ve  not done anything different with the corn I’ve   not tried bandid pellet or anything like that yet  I’m sure everything will work but it’s just great  

Fishing corn cuz it just stand out um yeah I’ve  had I’ve had them to sort of like I’d say over   three pound three and a half pound maybe the  biggest one I’ve had just jumped out of the  

Water just kept on jumping out of the water I’ve  had a couple of little babby ones sort of maybe   8 O 9 o but they’re average in sort of a pound  and a half to two pound if you like maybe a bit  

Bigger it’s just what a venue folks it’s amazing  wind’s not really affecting me much it’s blowing   at me which is is perfect I’m sure if i’ fished  it shallow we like blasting castes and I’d be   catching these shallow because there’s a lot sort  of up in the water swirling um but obviously look  

At fizzing as well you can see there’s loads  on the bottom incidentally when that wind is   blowing you float back towards you you’ll see me  then I just just W that line back in a little bit  

Because I want to make sure I’m in contact with  me float all the time um it’s important that that   you don’t really have too much slack line ideally  a straight line is ultimate best you can get uh  

But if it’s just starting to bend out a little  bit it’s not too much but it’s when it sort of   like comes back in yourself at this end you’re  picking up too much slot line so again I’m just  

Winding a little bit more just to make sure I’m  in contact with the uh with the float so you see   it’s just starting to creep out a little bit now  that that Line’s getting blown out to the to me  

Left which is not what I want and i’ say I’m  a little bit short now so bring that out and   cast it in again just short of where I’ve been  feeding that Main amount of um ground B if you  

Like so just go a little bit further out that’s  perfect bring that back a little bit lovely I’m   going loose feed some corn this time I’ve not  done that for a bit just going to put sort of  

Like 10 to dozen bits in there we go you can see  the spread I’ve got on that corn yeah don’t bother   me in the slightest where that float is now  is exactly where the ground bait’s been going  

So that’s what we want just tighten down to  that just to move that float a bit just make   sure I’m in contact there we go that looks fishy  out there folks don’t it that’s got to go that  

Oh there we go so again all them little knocks  in that that’s why you know we’ve got line on   the bottom and we’ve got more bristle out so not  striking at them false bites them liners when he  

Striking when we get that knife slow slow bite go  on then go on then oh here we go see what I mean   yeah nice slow bite and he’s on that’s what it’s  been like that’s what it’s been like folks it’s

Just best we fishing ever I say that about  everything though and I always say that don’t   that but can’t get enough of this look at them  Beauties that’s what they’ve been like I had   a couple smaller but most of them have been  sort of like that but this is o they’re a bit  

Bluming angry I’m going to say this is since I’ve  changed that shot in we’re hooking him much better   you know I’m not having to use the discordia  everything’s been in the uh in the bottom lift  

And it’s all because I’ll show you what I’ve done  just wipe myself up CU it’s a little bit messy   show you what I’ve done so basically that shot one  of them number eight was up there I brought that  

Down so I’ve got two together now I’ll probably  get away with all them on my hook length but at   the minute I don’t feel as I’ll need to change  anything so what’s the is probably 15 16 in away  

Maybe and then I’ve got my other number eight  start which again which is still just on me   uh on me Loop to Loop and it’s been much better  since I’ve done that not Chang around with depth  

You know I’ve not had to just sticking it the  same same bit same bit of corn look through that top and we are in so I’m not going to feed this  time I want to to Fe of ground bait but there’s  

So many fish fizzing now I don’t feel as I  need to if I don’t catch one this time then   I’ll oh oh that one had it on the drop that’s  like that’s only the second one I’ve had on  

The drop that check that corn that Conn’s  all right prop a nice slow bite that on the jop it’s been that back a bit into them  bubbles bibbles yeah I’m going to see if   I can catch one without without feeding  so I don’t want well I do want loads of  

Fish there it don’t matter so yeah I want  to feed another bow feed another bow folks   yeah can’t help it little bit short but I’m  not overly bothered let’s put another one in   actually there we go there we go right on it  don’t have to be that accurate folks honestly  

You know where that first one landed that’s  acceptable it’s all about getting them into   the area theyy up that one’s on you on lad  he’s on oh dropped it little oh here we go  

Go on then let’s wait for that nice slow that’s  what we want here we go he’s on see what I mean folks oh folks if you’re within five hours of  B and all get yourself here honestly I’ve been  

Here what I’ve been here three times in the  last five weeks all filming and it’s never   never ever disappointed been with Jamie  for winning ways we’ve done some things   we winning ways with Rich it’s just I just want  to do everything your wide world coaching wise  

Filming wise I just want to come here it’s  all we’re coming here all the time we ain’t   going anywhere else I think this is a big  one and it’s in real time folks yeah real   time literally straight on it straight on it  let’s have a look at this one oh yeah oh yeah

Oh my days look at the state of that I think  that’s our might be our biggest one biggest   one of the session so far that one folks they’re  not happy all snowed up pluming slime everywhere  

These are not happy again right at the bottom of  the lip perfect I’m going to hold this one up for   you just so you can get a look what to expect  let let me give him a little uh little bit of  

A rinse first get some slime off him look at the  state of these I’ve never I don’t think they’ve   been caught before folks look at the size of them  like they’re only light i’ they young fish look at

Them3 might not been the biggest one I think  the one that that jumper I had was like a bit   bigger than that that’s probably 36 3 7  just just stunning folks so I’m going to  

End it on that and I’m going to catch me some  more want you join me in another another hour   then I think we’ll have more than enough  for a for a cat shot we’ve got enough for  

A catch up now folks but join me in an hour  and see how we get on see if I made any other [Music] [Applause] [Music] changes [Music] so then folks since the last time you  joined me it’s been pretty much business usual  

Still catching Plenty of Fish um got a few more  sort of small well they’re not even small they’re   like proper chunky the little Bobby ones you  think uh you know sort of 8 oz or probably 12  

Oz or something like that uh I’ve had some another  like real decent one as well um I’ve had a couple   on the drop literally just before it settles on  the bottom but yeah it’s just nothing’s changed  

I’ve not had to change anything else the bikes  are still nice and lovely and slow and not really   missing any um is noticeable that they definitely  come to feed more so every time I catapult in uh  

Sorry every time I cast in I’m giving it a little  ball over the top not feeding any more corn   anything like that that’s still getting fed at the  same rate but it’s just been phenomenal I’ve only  

Fished for probably a couple of hours and you know  what I mean we had a I think we had enough for the   cat shot about hour and a half ago it has been  amazing folks I can’t tell you how good it is  

Uh there’s odd car keeps keeps visiting every now  and again but you just look at me ping it’s just   a mass of bubbles there’s so many fish there um  you know it’s not made a difference whether I’ve  

Been you know casting a little bit further in  the bubbles whether it’s been landed left right   it’s just been that that same your bikes have  been coming 3 to five minutes after your cast  

And you’ve been getting a fish uh as I said I’ve  had a had a couple on the drop as soon as it’s   settled um but all in all it’s just been just been  one of them lovely days that you know are quite  

Rare unfortunately folks you know um normally you  sort of like trying different things all the time   to try and make things work I’ve literally had  to change one thing today and that’s move that   top number eight start to me middle number eight  start and that’s it that’s all I’ve done uh I’ve  

Experimented I’ve moved them all like right up  above the up length but it didn’t make a blind   bit of difference I’ve still seen the bites as  quick um so I’ve just comeone back just so it   looks a little tiny bit more natural as it’s  falling in I’ll just move back to that there  

We go right on Queue 3 minutes in after we  casted we got another one on it’s just can’t   say anything more about it folks really there’s  so many fish there it’s ridiculous I thought I’d   have had like a few more you know maybe foul  Lookers and that just with how many there but  

It just shows you the sign of how healthy and  hungry the fish are that they’re just nailing   your bait you know what I mean like proper Welly  and everything this feels another good on this one tell them good you always keep nice and low

Oh I said it I said it ages ago I said we’  not lost one yet have we and bluming typical   on camera which it always is with me folks  have one fall off but it’s not bad when it’s  

Your first one that’s fell opposite you know  what I mean but it’s not ideal but anyway we   we’re not bothered we’re not bothered  with pleasure in now if that was in a   match though that was a bigger fish start  I would uh not be as calm as what I am so  

Cast in I’m going to put some grit right  over the top watch that float for because   they have other few as I say on the oops  he going to be keep that I add a few on the

Drop oh look at that one for you folks right on  the float definitely expecting a bite on that but   again I’ve not been you know uh chasing it around  I’ve been putting that ground bit on the same spot  

Every time once you get into that rhythm of making  the same or around the same sort of like weight   and size of ball and you get your marker in the  distance and what you’re aiming for and the same  

Catapult height you’re bringing the pouch back to  the same spot every time it should theoretically   go in that same area every time obviously it’ll  take a bit of experimenting but the beauty of   that ground bait over you know sort of like your  your loose feed if you like is you’re really sort  

Of zoning them fishing but the beauty of this  that super Crush you’re not overfeeding them   so like they sort of com to the scent there’s  no real food particles in there for them other   than the odd you know little bit of Micco that  I’ve put in which keeps the fish grubbing but  

The biggest thing that for them to eat there  physically is obviously the corn and that’s   why you just go a little bit uh bit more careful  with the corn not sort of like Welling loads of  

That in although I’m sure they’re bluming work  today on here um and then the the fish pick it   out even even better it’s just brilliant where of  fishing not some I’ve done for ages you know but  

It is so good proper proper takes me back that  wind’s just starting to blow it out a little bit   more now anything more then I will give that  a recast but at the minute it’s probably yeah  

Couple of foot away from where I first cast in at  the minute but remember as I say that scattering   of that cone goes over a bigger area I think  that’s why well I know it’s why we’re not foul   foul looking any cuz we’re obviously picking  the fish off brilliant brilliant way of fish  

In even the likes are you know changing float  size I’m not to do anything like that the winds   not really affected us to be honest uh but it’s  some to yeah some there now that’s something to  

To bear in mind now folks you know that wind is  a problem heavy float one overcast sink your line   that will make a big difference it’s actually it  start to drift back the other way now into into  

Where I put that ball so little fish around under  the the surface and then the last time we fished   we caught some real decent PS you know sort of  like up to a pound and a half and that’s them  

I’m sure that’s them chasing the fry but there’s  definitely been some sort of skimmers and bream   under the surface as well uh obviously car some  around me bait now I moved a little bit then go  

On come on the popadoms and always tell when  you need to top up as well cuz the fish stop   fizzing still odd sign I’m just going to bring  that back a little bit sometimes that as well  

Giving it a little bit of encouragement can uh  induce a bite we’ve not had to to do that today   folks but that can be something that’ll induce a  bite certainly on more natural baits definitely  

Not to go down the natural route either maggots  worms casters I say I don’t want to get M them   smallish I want to be selective come on here we go  come on there’s a one there bit of encouragement  

Oh no it was a bubble bubble come up I thought  it was me float moving said of had it sometime   where it’ll go really slow and sort of stay there  as it’s drifting that tells you that uh you just  

Dragging the bottom a little bit the bikes have  been noticeable just nice and slow straight under   it’s different when it drifts oh nearly stuck  then I they definitely stuck down if it’ have  

Been a little bit lower I want to make like that I  want to make sure when it’s on it’s like proper on   that’s why we’re fishing over dep folks he’s come  right to the top him what a session I have had today what a session reverse off another decent

One think it’s wrapped itself around  the line is it is it just a big I think he wrapped itself around the bloing  line this one oh no it’s just a [Music] big right then folks I’m going to end it on this  one how about this that’s biggest of the day and  

All that yeah boy oh my days that’s getting on for  four pound now let me unhook him so I reckon that   was on from when he had that first little dink  where he but obviously You’ got to make sure got  

To make sure folks let me get him out uned and  away and show you what you can expect look at   that that is4 what an absolute stunner again look  at its mouth look how clean the fish is these are  

Like young fish folks absolute stunners they are  so if you’re fancy a bit of a bit of skimmer or   well they’re not skimmers they are bream folks  get yourself to ba in all fishery I’ve never  

Ever been anywhere like it folks but as I say  if there’s nowhere you know well if this isn’t   close to you then get yourself to these specimen  Waters that you know they’ve got loads of carping  

They see a lot of particle baits them kind of fish  get left alone cuz the carpers don’t really want   them so they’re just left to their own device  he getting nice and confident nice and big get  

Yourself on them you know similar setup to what  I’ve done today ground bait and a few MOS into   well the ground bait to draw fish in a few MOS to  keep them grubbing but then a big standout bait  

We not even tried bluming pellet today you know  banded pellet had work really well I’m convinced   snar up in slime folks uh banded Six mil banded 8  mil pellet you know Big Worm head something like  

That like half a lob worm or qu of a lorm or  somewh but by far my favorite bait is is sweet   corn you know the fish absolutely love it um and  yeah you see you don’t have to fish far out just  

Get them get them feed in get them balls going  nice and regular odd bit of corn bit of Grainer   corn just to sort of keep them interested if  you like but more importantly not load so they  

Do pick your hookbait out and get out and give  it a go folks and let us know where you get on   what a place this is hope you enjoyed it I’ll  catch you next time then folks what a venue  

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25 Comments

  1. Do u mind if I ask as my old John Wilson float rod is due for an upgrade and was looking for an all round float/ pellet waggler rod can u use the pellet waggler rods for normal waggler and float lift bite for tench and margin fishing????

  2. Enjoyed the video andy,
    Think we all tend to always go down the pole route,
    I remember (back in day)always fishing the waggler,
    It is a great way of fishing, wish I lived within a few hours of the fishery , as I love great big bream and jimmy rimmers 🤣

  3. another great video. Andy's enthusiasm is infectious as ever. My only slight criticism as an instructional vid, It was shot 2 months ago and just uploaded, so I suspect this exact type of fishing will no longer be valid for most people. Be worth rewatching in 10 months time though 😇

  4. After suffering a stroke back in June I have not fished but watching Andy has got me wanting to get some new gear and get back out there, but the rivers are a thing of the past for me.

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