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    Good day everyone welcome back to the channel uh in this episode we’re going to look at something I mentioned in uh yesterday’s video link up here about the nine reasons why you shouldn’t buy an EV and one of those was related to the uh fire risk that I mentioned I was saying

    That there was a a horrible um situation that you could envisage where uh an EV or multiple EVS caught far in the basement of a an apartment block or something like that and literally the day after I I recorded that I saw um this article um from the telegraph the

    UK Telegraph which I’ll link down below um which kind of foreshadows that exact situation um so we’ll have a quick look at this and then I’ll talk a little bit about it here’s the headline electric bus station fire could turn high-rise homes into quotes volcano residents worn calls to scrap 1.7 billion development

    In edgear driven by fears of thermal run away under Flats local residents are fighting to block plans to build an electric bus garage under development of thousands of new Flats amid fears battery fires could cause a volcano labor run Barnet council is in talks with Transport for London and developer

    Balmore about the joint 1.7 billion pound project to build 25 tower blocks on top of a proposed underground electric bus depot in edgear town center however save our Edge wear a community group has warned that residents would be at severe risk from electric vehicle batteries igniting leading to explosive combustion and multi-vehicle fires

    Absolutely right I mean can you imagine that buses will have batteries that are far larger than those in your regular electric car and they’re probably going to be all parked next to each other it’s just a recipe for disaster in May last year six electric buses would were

    Destroyed in a bus garage in posa bar and the entire fleet taken out of service after one bus caught fire in the same month paris’s transport operator withdrew 149 electric buses made by bolard group’s blue bus from operation after two ignited on separate occasions damaged EV batteries pose a risk of

    Thermal runaway where energy stored in the battery releases rapidly creating temperatures of up to 400° no 400 C no way more than that way more than that six times that 2500° c while electric vehicle fires are statistically rarer than petrol or diesel car fires they are a lot harder

    To put out yes so this this thermal runaway thing that it mentions uh is where a battery becomes so hot that it uh self- sustains the combustion uh the combustion products uh cause the fire to continue it then spreads to the next cell and the next cell and the next cell

    And it just gets hotter and hotter and hotter and it just ends in a massive fire which is extremely difficult to put out uh it says exactly that here firefighters are still testing the best ways to douse fires involving the lithium ion batteries present in many battery powered vehicles including

    Placing the cars into water or covering them with foam or a large fire blanket check out my video here uh about the crazy extremes that the fire Fighters have got to go to to try and put these fires out because they are so hard to douse if you could imagine a whole bunch

    Of these buses lined up in the in the underground car park and it says proximity to other electric vehicles risks the fire spreading government guidelines recommend electric cars with damaged batteries should be quarantined from other vehicles due to the risk of battery fires this is absolutely frightening homes for around 7,000

    People and a rebuilt shopping center are planned for the 10 hectare site where the edge wear shopping center currently stands the plan also involves replacing an above ground bus garage with a brand new Depot for at least 190 electric buses beneath the 3,828 high-rise homes in coordination with Transport for London the buses

    Would plug into the same power supply that serves the buildings above and recharge overnight oh sounds as safe as houses that does a freedom of information request to the London fire brigade revealed that there is no specific fire safety guidance for underground garages that charge electric buses brilliant and new to Zach

    Spokesman for Save out Edge wear warned that a battery fire in the bus garage could result in grenfell on steroids and that residents were at severe risk that is a reference obviously to the grenfell tower um which caught fire due to this combustible cladding on the outside um

    That was a complete Inferno I mean that’s just total Madness given what we know about lithium battery fires how to deal with them and in an enclosed space with 190 buses underground wow I wonder how many people would um sleep soundly in their beds knowing that that was below them every

    Night and while they’re charging of course which increases the risk of uh a spontaneous um combustion of these batteries it’s just terrifying let me know in the comments if you had buy an apartment above a bus garage that was charging overnight 190 electric buses anyway that’s just about it for

    This video uh thanks as always for watching uh you can send me tips uh via Instagram down here or via email up here and uh look forward to seeing you next one bye for now

    32 Comments

    1. So if the probability of an electric bus blowing up is 1 in a million per night, the expected time before it blows up will be 10 years! [(1-.000001)^(10 years*190 buses*365 days in year) ~ 0.5]

    2. Madness often has a financial element — is the bus depot an essential part of the overall financial package ?
      Are the apartments part of a lucrative "Illegal Immigrant" housing scheme paid for by the taxpayer ?

    3. Los Angeles had storage underneath one of their freeways (motorways) and that did not turn out very well. In fact, it turned into a disaster, but you go ahead and give it a go.

    4. I don't even park near electric cars lmao. Live above one while it's at it's most vulnerable? I'd rather take my chances sleeping in the gorilla pen at my local zoo with a pile of cocaine and a Dyson fan.

    5. This is indeed absolutely insane: what are the deciders of such projects thinking? I came across a comment under another video regarding E.V's = explosive vehicles, which I think is quite appropriate. Yet they're forcing people to transition to electric cars all over Europe. This will not go well as the number of rather unpleasant incidents rises over time. We need to get away from lithium batteries, and see a safer alternative type of battery technology being implemented ASAP.

    6. At some point the public surely must realise the WE are the carbon they want to get rid of. If any of us tried to bring to market a product that had 1% of the safety issues of EV's we would be shut down immediately.

    7. Damn, everything about EVs is going to hell across the globe.
      Wasn't there anyone smart enough to tell them that the battery technology isn't there yet.
      It's common sense to figure out the energy source before you build anything around it.
      Won't charge with cold, can blow up whenever, impossible to repair, no resell value & a pain to recharge at that.
      Doesn't sound like it's figured out..

      Anyone who bought an EV is as dumb as an Apple product user imo.

    8. One of the obstacles to average citizens buying EVs is that the average citizen lives in an apartment where he can't easily charge his car at night. Why would the city use the underground space for charging busses when they could use it for charging personal EVs? It seems as if the powers that be want the average citizen to have no car at all, but instead depend entirely on public transport.

    9. Message to government. Most people don’t want EVs and most people resent being forced to buy them. Signing a legal agreement to stop ICE engine cars by a certain date without consultation with the electorate smacks of dictatorship and I hope the electorate shun them and any other party that refuses to give us choice. One party that will give you choice is Reform.

    10. That poor city. The potential for death and destruction is exponential. Well beyond the apartments. Then there's the risk to fire fighters.
      I hope it is not going to be government or council flats where people have little or no choice.
      Also where is all the electricity coming from. Do the buses charging get presidence over people. Are the people going to get a park for their cars – unlikely.
      Maybe they should make it into council offices.

    11. I literally wouldn’t live with in a 100 miles of that town because the toxic fallout these EV fires cause. You’d have to be an EV owner to live in those apartments.

    12. I always have issue with the stat, ICE cars catch fire more than EV cars. For 1 there are many more ICE cars on the road, and number 2 is,, that many many ICE car fires are set on purpose for insurance money. I'd say more ICE cars are set on fire than the ones that just catch fire on their own, without the help of the owner, a buddy, or a car thief.

    13. The people who proposed and supported this should be forced to live on top of a major charging station while being forced to watch videos of electric vehicle fires and fires caused by ev fires for about a week straight then put laws in place where the rich, corporate and government can only live in places built on charging stations and see how quickly the calls for change come.

    14. These busses need to be in large open yards, near power sub-stations. In places with good access, water hydrants, fire fighting resources, safety/breathing gear and probably berms or a plan to move or separate in case of fires.

    15. I don’t know, but with that many buses charging, I would not be surprised if there was a fire every month or two. The building should be named Bus Inferno. Las Vegas should take bets on when the fire starts.

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