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We’re going to go to portugal we’re jumping on the plane we’re jumping on facebook airlines express facebook airlines we’re going to go through to portugal look through some blacks here this is a question someone asked me can you do a bike day in portugal let’s go it so here we have

1300 bucks we have a trekker monda nice little bike these are bottom bracket combination there’s the bb-90 bottom bracket you know if it’s a heavier rider big miles that can be an issue otherwise they’re okay um oh my god look at how greasy that chain looks please people use squirt lube

That’s this is why it’s not going to sell that it’s just look at dirty looks let’s be honest about it that’s we’ll give him points for that those bond trigger rims aren’t too bad but yeah it doesn’t look like it’s not a lot of case you know um

Looks like they’ve changed the seat out the seat was comfortable and they probably didn’t find their magic c so they haven’t really been too much it looks to have stock tires on there it looks like the tyres are stock on the front at least um it hasn’t done a lot of case um

A bit of rust here which is normal you know this house looks pretty clean so it looks like someone’s pretty fastidious with things except for that dirty chain cassette it looks been fair condition um i got off from 500 euros 1300 euros it won’t sell for that it won’t sell for that why

Because it’s rim brakes bin bags aren’t worth much these days even though i prefer ring backs and road bikes disc brakes and dirt bikes he’s not going to get that much for it’s loading up the page okay we have another bike here in portugal trek alpha 300 with tiago saw a

Nine speed um you know it’s that’s that group set works okay what’s it gonna go for see here we go 22 weeks ago listed 22 weeks ago this bike would be worth around two to three hundred euros max okay just this is just a great example you know

Twenty’s been sitting on there for 22 weeks the bike hasn’t sold in a week the price is too high you know maximum two weeks lower the price you’ll sell it keep lowering until you sell it trekker monda sl6 you know i mean this is a really nice bike is that a stock color

See some of these colors i don’t recognize because every country has different colors with these brands specialized and giant and they do different colors it’s either being resprayed and repaired or it is a stock collar from maybe portugal or wherever nice bike again we’re going to check for ring of

Death because these are carbon steerers we’re going to check for bb-90 slop um but otherwise nice bike what’s it going to go for a thousand euro you know max maximum 1 000 euro listed two weeks ago it’s just you know like it’s not going to sell

It’s not going to sell it looks to be in good condition the shift is going to air condition it’s the r8000 group set um it looks to be in good condition this bike you know cosmetically the derailleur had a little scratch there something dropped a little bit

But that spot is a nice part you know again wing of death bottom bracket pb90 is okay bhq quartz another nice bike coming at the same chinese factories as the tracks etc um 950 euros 105 11 speed nice little bite again we’re going to check the ring of death

Check any bottom bracket issues this looks like a 27.2 seat post external clamp nice to see um just some entry-level wheels on there looks like 950 it’s probably going to go for you know maximum maximum 750 euro maximum 70 year assuming the fork doesn’t have ring of

Definite okay so this deal is i’m already fighting yeah racial deals on uh on facebook and portugal you know like the bike market is the same all around the world okay all around the world especially in australia or north america colombia you know especially in europe where you’re going to have people in

Thailand etc just sell their bikes you get the lawyers and the dentists go i just want to sell it today take it 500 euros thousands just take it okay those deals are always around if you put in the work you find them i’m just jumping on the forum today and

Having a look here um and these bikes they’re reasonably priced some of them you know but again they’re not gonna it’s not going to sell for a thousand euro a thousand euros about 500 aussies this is this is going to sell for about i can 300 between 300 and 500 euro this

Bike would sell for maybe it’s a giant it’s over 10 years old if that’s a carbon steerer i’m concerned because the giant stock spacers don’t go down that the plug doesn’t get that deep it could be an alloy steering as well though which in that case it’s fine to have

Spaces on top of the stem that many skull tegra cranks look pretty buff and worn uh it’s all tagged with 10 speed you know like it’s just it’s gonna be hard to sell a bike for a thousand euro this old you know it’s gonna be really tough you know especially in a country

Like portugal next door to spain whereas in europe there’s just thousands and thousands of bikes for sale so the competition that was higher for sales which means it’s a buyer’s market more than a seller’s market we’ll go back into here you know and we’ll see these people here this is just

You know i mean this is disc brake bike so that’s gonna hold more value even though it’s yeah it’s not as good this guy here uh trying to get a dis uh track among the disc brake frames look at that 22 500 euro i mean it’s just like

I don’t want to get from rim brakes so that much you know um see we see here over here we’ve got a you know let’s have a little slick through here um again people have their prices what they want for bikes but what they’re going to get versus

You know what what they’re going to get what they listed it as going to be a big difference sir the thousand euro here so the market’s flooded 500 euro here we go uh peter saigon yeah but like this it’s full of dreamers and people oh look at the bikes and they’re so

Expensive and people are dreaming yeah they are that’s all over the world man that’s adelaide australia sydney it’s melbourne it’s l.a it’s new york it’s you know oslo it’s toronto there’s dreams everywhere it’s cycling cycling’s full of dreamers you know cyclists think a lot of cyclists think that uh

You can win the tour de france nettie you know that’s how naive people are so they think that well i’m gonna have i’m gonna buy my bike for 10 years and i’m going to get a new retail price for it because there’s a bike shortage there’s a bike shortage there’s a bike shortage

For 2022 stock right there’s no bike shortage for 2010 model madones okay they’re great bikes but they’re not worth what you think they’re worth um all right let’s get bring up a few bikes here and uh again i’m not even really putting much work to find any deals i’m sure

They’ll be out there so this is 1200 bucks um so this is with the end visas another 1200 euro so we’re looking at so we’ve got an sl frame set um again you always check for ring of death always check ring of death um bb 90 issues but you’re 1200 euros so

It’s 11 speed 6800 i think i’m gonna i’m not gonna get you know 1200 bucks 200 euros for this it’s not gonna listed over a week ago in centra and uh you know also going to go for frame 300 euros group set 200 300 euros so around 600 euros for

This bike as is so half the listed price generally half the listed price is a good market value typically so this is a monday here ultegra for a thousand euro with the right slot extra like carb these aren’t carbon these are alloy other bayou bars those bars are very old

I probably replace those it’s got direct mount brakes in there it looks big pretty good condition doesn’t look like it’s been used a lot the chain rings are still brand new unless it’s got some new cranks put on there it’s got a little crank sticker on there to 50.

So yeah it’s it’s in great condition um i’d put some different bars in there that might be a bit used carbon etcetera but uh what’s going on that seat clamp there that’s interesting um yeah nice it’s a great little bike a thousand euro you know for a thousand euro this is a

Good bite you get it cheaper though you’ll get listed five weeks ago they’re like we’ll drop it down to a thousand and ninety nine euros and we might what’s going to go for um yeah 2 300 for the frame group set to 300 so around 600 euro you

Know 600 euros a fair price for this bike all right um they’re just getting cheaper man they’re just getting cheaper rim brake stuffs just getting cheaper it’s okay no rush it’s just getting cheaper remember that okay if you miss out on one deal don’t worry they’re just getting cheaper they’re like they’re

Like phones they’re like this is a 5g phone the 4g model is worth peanuts now disc brakes are the thing disc brakes are 5g okay road disc is 5g rode rim is 4g 3g it’s not worth much these days in 5g world when i prefer 5g

I prefer rim brakes yeah i’m sorry just use that as an example there all right so i’ve got a what’s going on i don’t i don’t speak uh portuguese and uh this is 500 is that a bike for so it is okay so there you go that’s uh an amanda

Is it a monday is that namanda it looks a little bit nice and amanda s maybe i just it looks something something weird about that bike something weird is that is that really in a monitor yeah it looks like it looks like one this is just lighting or something something’s off with that

Bike maybe it’s been resprayed or something all right we’ve got a super six here super six no it is a super six um 800 euros you know so again 105. you know you’re being a death one to check for 500 euros you get it’s not even it’s going for 800 500 euros you

Know maybe so there you go that’s portugal cheap bikes and the deals are out there just how it is um if you’ve got dentists and barristers who ride bikes in your country there are deals there are deals if you’ve got bike thieves in your country they’re going to steal bikes

They’re going to put them on facebook marketplace don’t buy those bikes i’m just saying that that will mean the second-hand market value drops in price because they’re junkies the people will sell their bikes super cheap and that these devalues the whole market okay so this is how it is every country’s got

That um unfortunately this is how it is but anyway that’s that’s the deal always if you’ve got a car any fork always drop the fork out inspect it if it’s carbon fork ring of death if it’s an alloy fork check the bonding if it’s a steel fork

Check for any rust cracks and bottom bracket straight frame any cracks crash bent or stolen good to go if you want that one-on-one coaching maybe find a founder bike want me to negotiate with the buyer for you get the best deal join duranoda.com the coaching group

It’s we have a private group in there there’s a paywall there’s no trolls it’s great the price does go up so get in before the next price spike and i i’ll save you thousands of euros man i guarantee i’ll save you thousands of euros on nutrition on your cycling stuff

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16 Comments

  1. What is the problem with people like Jimmy Moore? They've been on high fat low carb for YEARS and still obese and getting fatter. Why cant they see it will never work?

  2. Thank you for pointing out the Devaluation of brand name carbon road bikes. New cars lose their value once they leave dealership and why should road bikes maintain high price despite being used, right?

  3. Seeing some great deals here in Ireland. Disc brake,Integrated front end,mechanics nightmare,Greedy Corporate ‘modern road bikes’ are being snapped up and high end three to eight year old rim brake bikes being sold at giveaway prices……madness!

  4. The first bike , i got the same exact bike with upgraded wheels(hed ardennes) duotap and cyclocomputer installed for 1300 us$ Just before christmas 2020. The bike had so little use that the tires showed zero wear. The bike was mint, except for the silly kickstand that I immediately removed. Could I have gotten something cheaper? Maybe, but at the time I had been looking for about 6 months. It was the bike I was looking for in the size I wanted and it was basically unused. So I was and still am happy with the deal . After about 5,000 mile the bike has been great .

  5. I’ve gotten some great deals as well recently. Bought a Giant TCR composite, HED Jet RC5 wheelset, and ZIPP 303 tubular wheelset for $1,500. All of which were brand new. Great time to ride rim brakes. Thanks DR.

  6. Sorry but those prices you think are realistic just arent here in Europe. Speaking as someone who has bought sold quite a few bikes in Germany over the past few years (not Portugal but also EU) some of these prices seem realistic and even those that dont would easily sell for a lot more than what you claim that they could sell for.

  7. Lot of dreamers don't realise giant and merida haven't gone full gouge like trek and spec then try to get their 2022 gouge on when selling 2nd hand. New giant/merida or 2nd hand trek/spec? Bit of a no brainer imo 😂

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