‘Stop whining’: Piers Morgan clashes with Peter Hitchens on Ukraine-Russia war

Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan clashed with The Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens regarding the cause of the Ukraine-Russia war and how the conflict could end.

Mr Morgan questioned Mr Hitchens on how the war could end with both Russia and Ukraine refusing to give up territory.

“I would have thought the position the Ukrainians find themselves in now is very strong if they go through negotiations,” Mr Hitchens said.

“I don’t know what would take place in negotiations.”

The columnist complained to the Sky News Australia host that he was being interrupted as Mr Morgan told him to “stop whining and answer the question”.

“There has never been any suggestion from me … that Ukraine should give up territory,” Mr Hitchens said.

The Kremlin issued a chilling morning of retaliatory actions today after prime minister Rishi sunai plays more support for Ukraine president zielinski made a short visit to the UK as he attempts to secure more military support for Ukraine in his fight against Russia after a two-hour meeting in checkers which he

Soon act announced he’ll send hundreds of long-range missiles and armed drones but zielinski wants fighter jets and the UK won’t at the moment commit to that today we spoke about the Jets very important topic for us because we can’t control the sky we want to create these

Jets Coalition we are going to be a key part of the Coalition of countries that provides that support to Vladimir and Ukraine now it is not a straightforward thing as vlona and I have been discussing to make build up that fighter combat aircraft capability it’s not just

The provision of planes it’s also the training of pilots and all the logistics that go alongside that well the UK has gone further than any other European country providing weapons but is it enough to help Ukraine defeat Putin once and for all in a moment are we getting an expert view from the

Format of the British army Lord Dannon first I’m joined by the man on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens Peter welcomed appears Morgan uncensored so look what is your view of the Ukraine war how do you think this now ends what should the UK be doing well I think it’s all civilization

Sensible people should be making every receivable effort to bring it to an end a huge numbers of happy innocent persons of the internal corpses and refugees cities have been blasted into pieces uh houses turn to ruins and economy is smashed and the the whole of Ukraine now

Faces A continuing destruction I do not see what interest serves the world to continue with this with the absolutely interested in the Ukrainian people for there to be peace talks which would bring those awfulness to them hang on but how would the peace talks go I mean

Are you suggesting that Ukraine well are you suggesting Ukraine should give up territory that has been illegally seized by Russia if I was saying that I would say that I’m sorry I’m asking the question I know I’m saying I’m not saying that so there you are that’s that’s that one’s sold

Good any any other questions I’ve got a lot of questions yes I mean what do you think these peace talk would lead to because he wants to Vladimir Putin wants to keep control of the territory he’s taken and probably some more uh Ukraine is absolutely adamant they shouldn’t be

Seeding any territory they even want Crimea back for reasons which are perfectly obvious if you spend time with ukrainians so my question for you is you think you can end with peace talks how does that end if the ukrainians won’t give up any territory I won’t be there

At these thoughts the people who will be involved would be the governments and the two farmers and countries and they will decide but it seems to me do you do you must I must ask you by giving the same of your questions do you like War

Have you seen War do you know what a human body looks like after a boy just passed away okay well I would say I would I would answer that I would answer that Peter by saying because I think you know because that’s your brother uh Christopher wrote for me at the time I

Uh and he opposed my position on this I opposed vociferously instead of the mirror the war in Iraq which is sadly was unsuccessful in trying to get that stopped however my brother was a British army colonel and served for 37 years in the Army and he served in places like

Iraq and Afghanistan so yeah I got an indirect uh feedback on what a war is like and no nobody likes War you’ll never meet a soldier who says they like War however as in 1939 when the world and I say the world not just Ukraine but the world is confronted with an evil

Dictator who thinks he can just March into neighboring countries and Destroy them and kill thousands if tens of thousands of people and then take their land the world has a duty in my opinion as it did in 39 to stand up to that person and that person right now is

Vladimir Putin so that would be my position but the world has stood up to him his his offensive was being bullied his intentions as far as we know what they were have not been achieved and we’re not likely to be achieved so now we have a position where the the the two

Sides are at something like a cell mate we don’t know I I don’t make any pretense unlike everybody else in the trailer journalism to be a military expert I don’t know what the shape of the Ukrainian offensive which we’re told about so often will be or whether it

Will succeed but even so it seems to me that the time has come but for us to make an effort to bring an answer War yeah but the way you bring it into it shortly it seems to me we’ve been very successful Europe and America in arming

The ukrainians to to resist having their country taken by Putin and they’ve been incredibly successful in doing that and there’s now a real belief amongst ukrainians and president zielinski that if they get enough of the military hardware that they need they can launch a counter-offensive and actually drive

Russia and the Russian forces out of the territory that’s been seized I don’t think they’ve got any intention of waging any kind of Peace anytime soon because as far as they’re concerned they’ve had a quarterback country taken well you’re right there is no pressure on them from the great pass to make peace

There is no General pressure on them there’s no pressure from Western public opinion on us to make peace so you you may well be right it’s it’s astonishing it’s rememberable was actually elected as president of Ukraine on a peace ticket because he actually stood before his people said

This there is a there is a great war going on in my country which as you’ve probably heard started in 2014 not 2022 it’s time it was over and we must take steps to do so but that was before Vladimir Putin invaded I know it was but

Lots of things were before but I think it’s important for you to understand this episode has background and many many elements in it which are not much discussed in the in in the January rather um how should I say uh cursory coverage which the causes and nature rewards is given in this country

But zielinski was a peace candidate he was frustrated in that by some certain country who preferred but as you know as you know the situation dramatically changed February last year when Putin invaded Ukraine and you gotta you’ve got to say that I just find I find him I

Find it strange that somebody somebody in smart and perceptive as you Peter would look at the situation and I think the ukrainians have any desire to wage any form of Peace settlement which may involve them seeding territory why should they we wouldn’t would we we didn’t in 1940 1940s

With every every bit of our strength to defy the Nazis don’t want me to be on your program all you need to do is not invite me if you invite me you should at least do the doing the cursive listen you’re what I say I’m never at any stage

Suggested you’re the one who suggested would anybody should see it on your land I would have thought the position ukrainians found themselves in now is very strong if they go into negotiations why do you think the Russians would simply give back all the land they’ve taken I don’t know what would take

Personal negotiations is playing I’m not fit Peter you don’t think for a moment Vladimir Putin would give up that territory of course he wouldn’t you know that you want me to ask do you want me to answer your questions or not I want to I want to I want you to explain why

You think this could possibly get resolved unless the Ukraine just seeded their territory Vladimir Putin is not going to give any of the land back if you spent the last year and a half bombing them into submission to try and take it why would he give it back how do

You know what is this war above this war is about Russia under under a dictator trying to take back territory that Vladimir Putin believes should never have been given away in the first place that’s what it’s about that’s your version noise and again I think that these I don’t think you’ve made any

Secret of it well I’m sorry I it’s a very long and complicated story and one which you certainly all the people in broadcast before whom I might attempt to explain and argue this and not the person I choose because you’d interrupt me before I got one tenth of what I was

Going to say out and you talk over me which is what you do the last time we met each other on television you shut me down and silence me because I was right about it because it’s not whining and just answer the question here you are

Again do you want me to stop whining and answer the question or do not because I’ve got many other things I’m happy you’re filling all the time that I’m giving you by whining about not getting airtime say what you want to say thank you and and stop talking over me

There’s never been any suggestion for me since this program began that Ukraine should give up territory that came from you I said there should be negotiations negotiations to do what there you go again the negotiations are it’s called an interview Peter I’m allowed to ask you supplementaries

The viewers the viewers can decide to themselves whether you’re giving me a fair Shake on them all right look there’s we’re going around the houses here but I appreciate you joining the program thank you very much