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    Hello everybody good evening and welcome to the United stands I’m M goldbridge and this is your Sunday night show as we talk the latest Manchester United news transfer news but we’re going to start off on what is a big topic um and and it’s a very big topic because we’re

    Talking about cost cutting we’re talking about the clearance the clear outs we’re talking about certain players that probably shouldn’t go being moved out of the club whether this is a good or a bad thing I put a tweet out today it caused a few people uh to get on their high

    Horse I love it get on your high horse I’m on mine let’s get the uh the jousts out and have a joust that’s what it’s all about opinions so look I you can take this statement as as many different ways as you want I mean that’s the point

    That’s the point of saying something like this if we’re selling km casmiro to cut costs how is the inos deal for the better it’s cost cutting it’s a rhetorical question there’s a question mark in there get answering your questions about this because bottom line is this morning reports coming out that

    Man united want to offload casemiro they want to offload casemiro they want to offload Varan for me Varan is Manchester United’s best center back and casemiro is Manchester United’s best midfielder this is cost cutting cost cutting doesn’t necessarily mean negativity some people will react and say how are inos

    Any better than the glazers if we’re cost cutting we’re not going to get anywhere by cost cutting but actually I think may may maybe you could maybe you could um let me just get rid of this [Β __Β ] in the chat mods do your job we’re not having people with those emojis in

    Here get them out um but the reality is it’s it’s really interesting to delve into this and what the future is in this transfer window what it means for Man United what it means for ten hog because there are opportunities there I watched Liverpool play Arsenal today and I think

    You know we’re not that far off really if we sort some of the problems out and you can certainly remove casmiro and Varan and have a better future but you can also remove them have a much worse future and I think what we’ve got to look at here is you’ll get your you’ll

    Get your sympathizers your Glazer sympathizers who now are in O sympathizers because they’re Glazer sympathizers you’ll get your realists you’ll get your negatives um you’re going to get all sorts and and the bottom line is nobody has got an absolute clue what is going on you get people out there talking like they’re

    Sat in the boardroom of Manchester United and they know exactly what our future’s going to be when the boardrooms not even been constructed and the reviews not even been completed so all these people have go oh no no this is the right thing to do they don’t know

    They’re plucking it out the ass like the rest of us we don’t know what the future is but what what I’ll I’ll tell you what I was thinking when I typed this if we’re selling casemiro to cut costs how is this inos deal for the better question mark I don’t know I’m asking

    That question how is this inos deal for the better if they’re coming into the club getting rid of the biggest earners to raise money to build build another team that’s cheaper how is that better if you get it wrong contrast that with guar who would have come in and not done

    That they don’t they wouldn’t need to do that they wouldn’t have debt they’d have billions of pounds to Chu at the club that they owned exclusively this would be this is a different path to go down and I’ll argue that with anybody because a full ownership and a clearance of the

    Debt is very different to [Β __Β ] we need to we need to raise money by clearing the wage Bill the wage bill needs to be cleared but you can clear the wage bill in a better way you know Harry Maguire’s on 200 Grand a week we talk about

    Casemiro and Varan on 300 Grand a week Harry McGuire’s on 200 Grand a week Luke Shaw’s on 180 Grand a week Anthony martial’s on 200 Grand a week Marcus rashford’s on two 350 Grand a week there are other options other than going well get rid of Iran because he’s old well

    He’s actually younger than Maguire and only a year older than Lindelof out get rid of casemiro because he’s old he’s actually younger than Erikson and he’s only probably two or three years older than than Bruno now so look there’s different ways of doing things and I I

    Want to sort of get your thoughts on this uh Bron says hi Mark I’m flying from South Africa to attend my first game at Old Trafford against Spurs really hope the team shows up that day I think I think we’re going to win I think we’ll win that because they play a high

    Line Mark we need to clear out badley can indos do this says James and uh assuming this season is a wash out why can’t we sell Kazmir over an and build for the future both are not getting any younger says Ashwin but I’ve just I’ve literally just given you my answer to

    That the naivity of going get rid of kaziro and Baran I know they’re two of our best players but they’re old Maguire’s older than Baran we keeping him then Ericson’s older than kameiro we keeping him then Lindelof is a year younger than Lindelof we keeping him then the hypocrisy of saying all right

    Veran and Casmir are two of our best players but they’re getting on a bit let’s get rid of them but what are we doing with Maguire what are we doing with Lindelof what are we doing with Erikson you know there are a lot of other players that aren’t as good as

    Varan and casmiro who are on good wages are we keeping them or are we just picking off the biggest earners because if we’re just picking off the biggest earners how is this any better than the glazers and what I mean by that is it’s hap Hazard if you’re going to have a

    Clear out please clear out the players that aren’t good enough because to me if you want to get rid of varane’s 300 Grand a week well Maguire and Varan Maguire and Lindelof would cover keeping Varan so there are there are many different ways of looking at this and

    That’s what I’m talking about I don’t disagree James and I’ll actually I’ll actually explain why cost cutting cuz it is cost cutting people see cost cutting as a negative I’ll tell you why it’s a positive it can be a positive but it is cost cutting don’t I’m not listening to

    Anybody tell me this is not cost cutting of course it’s cost cutting if you want to get rid of a pay player on 300 Grand a week to replace them with a younger player on a 100 Grand a week that’s cost cutting doesn’t mean it’s wrong but it’s

    Cost cutting it’s a clear out it’s cost cutting and people need to see it for what it is why are inos cost cutting because man united spend too much money why are inos cost cutting maybe they don’t have a lot of money why are inos cost cutting because it’s the right

    Thing to do why are inos cost cutting because they need to raise money by reducing the playing staff we don’t know it could be for the better it could be for the worse we’ll have to wait and see Mark we need to clear out we’ve done that from James welcome to members Club

    Paul doxy need to be real casmiro is on the same wage as Salah what’s the difference Salah is effective and kaziro has been on the table all season inos can absorb the debt for a full takeover not 25% says Akash don’t know what you’re talking about don’t think you

    Know what you’re talking about either inos can absorb the debt for a full takeover the debts half a billion M mate the club’s worth five what are you talking about rean welcome to the members club and uh Byron we’ve done that I think you’re going to get a great

    Game against Spurs at the weekend because they play a high line the positive of cost cutting I want your thoughts on this the co the positives of cost cutting are that if you red if you remove let’s say casmiro and Varan and they’re on 300 Grand a week that’s

    Β£600,000 a week that’s 1.2 million every two weeks that’s 2 and a half million every month saved that’s 25 million a year isn’t it it’s more than that in saved I [Β __Β ] that up surely no I haven’t 300 Grand a week is 600 Grand a week when it’s two players times two is

    1.2 time 2 is 2.4 time 10 is 24 and then you’ve got another couple yeah it’s over 25 million in wages saved just by getting rid of kameiro and Varan um and if but but but with that 25 million you’ve just lost two of your best

    Players to replace them I would say is going to cost you at least a 100 million so how do we do that there’s always there’s always a conversation to be had isn’t there yeah let’s get rid of casemiro and Varan and we’ll save 25 million a year you’ve just

    Lost your best center back and your best midfielder how are you replacing them but I’ve just saved 25 million a year how are you replacing them um yeah yeah are we saving and this is what I mean when we cost cut are we cost cutting because we’re out of Europe and we’re in

    Trouble and we need that 25 million and we’re never replacing veran and casmiro or are we cost cutting to bring in two younger players on less money but will they be as good and these are all the sort of questions you’ve got to ask and I refuse I absolutely refuse to listen

    To somebody and you shouldn’t listen to me but I refuse to listen to somebody on social media or in this chat or on the radio or on the TV tell me that getting rid of Casmir and Varan is brilliant business because we’ll get rid of them and we’ll replace them with better

    Younger players well tell me the better younger players tell me a better younger player than casmiro that that we we can buy tell me a better younger Center back than Varan that we can buy and tell me how we will do that cheaper than 25 million Savings in a year we’re going to

    Buy two for 10 million each and then put them on two and a half million a year come on and and I know you you I know you’re intelligent I I know you understand what I’m talking about um we have to see the red flags and we have to

    Call them out and we have to be skeptical because I think s Jim Radcliff would expect us to be that he is not some white knights in shining armor coming out from the distance like Gandalf to save Manchester United from Helms Deep far from it he could be on

    The side of the Orcs which is the glazers we don’t know we just do not know we want to believe but we don’t know so when I hear about cost cutting I don’t automatically go oh yeah get rid of our best midfielder get rid of our best center back they’re on silly money

    Let let’s get rid of them let’s save25 million a year and with that money we’re going to buy Jude Bellingham and we’re going to buy uh van djk and we’re going to pay them 20 grand a week you know we’ve got to think about this there is a

    Lot to be said for cost cutting personally I think if you sold rashford casemiro Baran Bruno Maguire and a couple of others you’re probably going to raise 60 70 million pounds a year in wages but how are you going to replace them all and and and this is not not my

    Job this is not your job but we are going to cost cut because we are paying stupid money on wages and we’re failing as a football team we’re nearly mid-table we’re out of Europe and we’re paying wages for players like somebody just said there that Mo salah’s on we’re

    Paying wages that Mo Salah are on to casemiro and we’re a mid-table team but we’re also paying Harry MaGuire more than every Liverpool Center back apart from Virgil Van djk we’re probably paying Harry McGuire more than every man city center back uh we’re certainly paying him more than Arsenal center

    Backs so and I’m not picking on Harry McGuire there Lindelof is probably on more than a Ki so you know the whole club is broken and that’s what I’m saying are we just picking on the biggest earners or are we actually going to be intelligent and start clearing the

    [Β __Β ] as well because there’s a lot of money to be saved there um hi Mark we’ve done that one sorry sorry sorry sorry I hate the thought of losing veran and casemiro but if it’s part of a larger clear out and can improve the overall quality of the squad it’s worth it says

    Spoton welcome to Embers Club Michael mccan and Mike Mike get a new manager 300 men a million is they choose don’t know what that means Kyle give or take 31.2 million you are correct though it’s poor bu business look at Chelsea who got rid of their aging players and

    Replicated it with young says the Inquisition uh cost cutting so they don’t invest in Eric ten hog with the new money says ke Robinson January transfers has to be strengthened the squad so why selling Kazmir and Varan answer getting back the Champions League loss glazers found their soulmate says

    Abdi Paul doxy is a new member look I I’ve left that up on screen because it’s a rhetorical question for people to have their own opinion on it it evoked quite a strong response from some people good I’m glad um it because it evokes something I don’t have the answer I

    Don’t know all I know is that a full sale from a rich owner would not have meant cost cutting because they wouldn’t need to cost cut they all they’d have to do is manipulate Financial fair play debt would be gone billions would be there how do we do what Chelsea have

    Done we don’t need to cost cut we don’t need to get rid of our best players they’ve kept Thiago Silva Thiago Silva is probably on very good M money at Chelsea but they’ve kept in because he’s one of their best players Thiago Silva is still playing at the highest level in

    The Premier League in his late 30s and we’re talking about getting thir rid of 31y old casemiro it’s ridiculous agism stupidisco it oh suddenly you’re dusted when you’re 31 I mean I understand it with Varan to a certain extent because of injuries but casemiro is 31 and we

    We’re getting rid of him look at look at what look at what Luca Modric has been doing for Real Madrid for the last five years and he’s what 36 37 I I just don’t I don’t agree with it I don’t agree with getting rid of kameiro if Kazmir wants to go that’s a

    Different kettle of fish but I don’t really I don’t I don’t I don’t agree with getting rid of Kazmir because he’s in his early 30s see it for what it is we’re getting rid of our best midfielder because he’s on big money now if you’re going to do that and there’s a

    20-year-old who is going to be better than casemiro in 18 months do it 25y old do it but don’t do it just because you want to save a wage don’t do it because on a spreadsheet it says rashford casmiro Varan Sancho martial right we

    Need to get rid of four of them don’t do it for that reason do it because you’ve got a replacement lined up who’s going to be cheaper and better but don’t do it just to to save costs and this is what this is the question I’m asking and I’ll

    Ask it of inos and I’d ask it of s Jim and so should you how do you know this is good for Manchester United and why are you accepting that it is why are you not asking questions and going don’t like the look of this I can see how it

    Could work but I could see how it’s a bloody nightmare what if they are just picking off the biggest earners apart from rashford and getting rid of them you know what if it is because we weren’t in Europe what if it is a business decision from business people

    To come in and cut you know cut costs I don’t know whether it is and I don’t know whether it isn’t and we won’t know whether it is until it’s too late I mean if you get rid of casemiro who are you going to replace him with you know I can

    Do the quick Maths for you I spoke about Gara from Valencia this morning he will cost you 50 million quid we spoke about nebz from Benfica he’ll probably cost you 70 80 90 million quid so you go for somebody who’s younger unproven inexperienced and needs time who was

    Going to cost cost you a lot of money an aror at Everton’s probably going to cost you 50 million quid as well where is this casmiro replacement that’s going to make it efficient to get rid of casmiro at 31 and save his wages to bring in

    Somebody else who’s going to cost you 50 60 70 million where is this plan and um I think that that’s something you’ve got to look at Ryan says to be fair Thiago Silvera is on 100K and not 300K doesn’t matter Ryan it really doesn’t matter the

    Point is people are saying get rid of casmiro because he’s 31 Thiago Silva’s 38 Modric is into his mid-30s late 30s I think now um I don’t care if we’re playing 300K a week for casmiro because we’re playing 350 Grand a week for ra for rashford so let’s not pretend that

    Casemiro is on ridiculous money and he’s the only one casmiro was Player of the Year for me last year and so was Marcus rashford so they’ve both had a bad season are we are we selling them both or are we just getting rid of one of

    Them because you know he’s a little bit older than the other one I think we’ve got to be more intelligent here and I might be the only one and I might be might be the minority but when I hear that we’re trying to sell ver Varan and

    Casemiro red flags I go hold on a minute this to me worries me because is it somebody looking at a spreadsheet like I say and going get rid of those because they’re they’re old and on big money um and do they know about football I mean

    As somebody said the other day what does s Jim Radcliffe know about football what does the David brailford know about football what if they are just looking at a spreadsheet and going oh they’re over 30 and they’re on 350 Grand week get rid of them you know why are we

    Putting trust into these people why do we think that they know better than what we know I hope they do but I’m not going to sit there like a [Β __Β ] lemon and go yeah I’ll jump off that Cliff with you sounds great I can’t see the bottom it’s

    Very Misty sounds a bit Rocky down there um but let’s do it it’s great got any parachutes no fine okay there might be a might be there might be a big trampoline you know I think we’ve got to scrutinize things um and with that comes debate and conversation but there is nobody out

    There with the definitive answer because cost cutting can be positive of course it can but it can also be very concerning I mean on a very basic level forget the money for a moment if I said to you we are where are we in the league

    I don’t know eighth or seventh I don’t know but let’s say we’re seventh or eighth in the Premier League um I don’t look at it very often because it’s not not not nice viewing so if I said to you okay fan forum time proper fan forum not

    The practic fan forum they’ve got at the moment but proper fan forum you know like everybody’s involved and I said to you I’m at the I’m speaker and I’m going like I’m the new owner of the football side right we’re eighth in the league we’re out the carabal cup we’re out of

    Europe completely we’ve got the FA Cup and let’s hope we can get to sixth my plan is to get rid of two or three of our best players to save us a bit of money someone’s going to say mate we are nowhere near we’re out of Europe we’re nowhere near the top

    Four and you’re going to get rid of our two of two or three of our best players to save money how is that going to make us go up the league all that’s going to do is save you a bit of money how are we moving up the league by removing two or

    Three of our best players because we’re going to replace them with cheaper players right so we’re going to get rid of two or three of our best players because they’re on big wages and you’re going to replace them with cheaper players yeah that way we save

    Money and we’re better as as a team this is what I mean we need we need proof in the pudding we’re not we’re not entitled to it all I’m saying is if you remove kirro who is replacing him if you remove Varan who is replacing him and more

    Importantly to me if you remove casemiro why is Erikson not going if you remove Varan why is Maguire and Lindelof not going because that doesn’t look to me like a clear out and cost cutting to make us better that looks to me like doesn’t matter how good you are you’re

    On the big wages so you’re off you you’re you can’t let Varan Go and Keep Maguire and Lindelof you can’t let casemiro go and keep Erikson and Momin that’s ridiculous that’s not a clear out that literally is walking into a restaurant as the new owner and saying

    Get rid of that expensive chair we’ll keep the cheap ones get rid of that expensive beer will keep the cheap ones that’s not how you run a business that’s how that’s not how you run a football club that’s how you run a business um so I’m interested I’m interested but I will

    Admit that cost cutting isn’t necessarily A Bad Thing as I say you could walk in you could get rid of rashford casemiro Varan Sancho martial your highest earner is now two 250 Grand a week you’ve just obliterated your wage budget and you’ve also brought your wage ceiling down

    Nobody can walk into that club anymore and say I want 300 Grand a week because you go no we’ve we’ve got a limit we don’t pay anybody more than 250 that could be seen as a positive you save a load of money but you get your wage structure done overnight night that

    Could be a positive then with all those players gone you bring in younger hungrier players on less money with a better bonus structure and over the next three or four years you become a better team and you look back and go that was a good thing so it can

    Work but it’s a bit disjointed if you get rid of two players on 300 Grand a week but you keep one who’s on 350 he’s going to be way out ahead of everybody else and he better be bloody good for it so these are all questions you’ve got to

    Ask and look we don’t even know the truth so Jim radliff might be sat there tonight going what’s this bollocks I don’t want to sell Kazmir I think he’s a bloody brilliant player I’m not getting rid of him I’m not getting rid of ran either so we don’t know but we don’t

    Know who ten Hog’s going to pick in goal tomorrow night doesn’t mean we don’t talk about it um selling veran and casemiro reminds me of the Garner deal instead of working on the harder deals they’re going because it’s easy says Brandon well I think that’s always a

    Good point as well you know get rid let’s sell the players people want instead of selling the getting rid of the players that people don’t want I mean there’s a big lesson there why do you think people want to buy the players that that you’re going to sell because

    They’re decent why do you think they don’t want to buy the players that you don’t want to that you do want to sell because they’re not very good I don’t think they realize you’ve spent a decent amount to get a class player unless they’re going on hope and replacement

    Players are good says Tony Matthew James thank you very much uh for your Super Chat casemiro is younger than Kevin De bruyne as well says Aaron and the same cost cutting bollocks was said under Ole next thing Along Comes Ronaldo uh and amiro and Varan remember it was the same

    Thing said when K Cavani and Co were there as well says K good point Gabrielle says benab for 19 months and what a great 19 months I think we shouldn’t sell Varan unless we have a solid replacement which we don’t have uh sakin says they’re not English either

    That’s why they’re going and Zay says Mark I love Bruno but I also miss first year Bruno he should have shoot shoot more in my opinion kaziro can go why not they will get uh teram and too yeah tram’s I don’t rate that teram at n I

    Hope it if he comes to United I hope it works but I don’t rate that teram at N I think he’s overrated I like tobo I don’t think that that ter Ram’s that good but if somebody said to me this um rashford casemiro martial Sancho Varan all gone and in comes

    Alisi Nez from Benfica Gara from Valencia TBO from uh nce um and we need a striker as well wouldn’t we so I don’t know a young striker that’s decent tell me something I wouldn’t be opposed to that cleaned the dressing room brought the wage bill down I wouldn’t be opposed

    To that that’s the sort of Ruthless Evolution that needs to take place at man united but we won’t I don’t I don’t think we’ll do that I think we’ll get rid of a couple of players that probably shouldn’t go and we’ll keep two or three players that should go

    And the same cycle will continue I think that if you’re going to break it down I’ve said many many times before Mark it’s all the it’s all the foreign players but never the UK players says the Liverpool stand I I’ve said many times to you that if we’re really going

    To change Manchester United then we need to reset we need to break it all down and if you’re going to break it all down you have got to be ruthless you have got to say bye to veran bye to casmiro but you’ve also got to say bye to Maguire

    Bye to momy maybe bu to rashford Maybe by to Bruno you know that’s a proper ruthless breakdown you can’t just pick and choose when you get rid of Ronaldo you don’t keep everybody else Ronaldo going was ruthless by ten hog but he kept everybody else so it becomes irrelevant it it becomes absolutely

    Irrelevant if you’ve got a gang of people at school who are bullies and you get rid of one of them but you keep three or four you don’t get rid of the bullying problem do you so we need to take it all out or what’s the point uh

    The two non-british players who have been there done that winning things not something other Squad players can say need this winning winning mentality says Matthew I suppose that’s a good point as well um if it’s C Abdi says if it’s cost cutting on wages logically B player will

    Go get less wages which means not lowlevel players not obviously the ones ten hog wants and removing Kazmir and Varan you remove our leaders says Matt and Scythe says I’ve got no issue with cost cutting as long as if they’re getting rid of Varan and casmiro rashford goes to and the wage structure

    Is fixed and Roy says the biggest question of all is why the glazers have walked away with one .25 billion wasn’t their brief they were looking for investment for the club and uh Brandon I think we’ve done that as well and then uh rean says news just broke that Jim’s

    Retail brand Belfast might go under Administration uh losses went from 16 million to 20 I don’t know whether that’s true rean and Mark what about dybala linked with a mov watch some videos of him on YouTube and he’s really good says Bry H and Stefan says can I

    Have a happy birthday shout out to Cindy even though she’s banned you from sharing a bedroom with us okay Cindy that sounds very Sinister but happy birthday to Cindy and uh that’s from Stefan and the United stand crew as well but look it’s it’s it’s AOK a good

    Conversation and that’s what it’s all about I I don’t know what um is going to happen but I do think that um it’s very very clear from and we remember remember how it works you know you put a story out that you you might get rid of

    Casemiro and you wait for the reaction you put a story out that you might give 10 half a new contract you wait for the reaction um football clubs don’t necessarily listen to fans but their biggest customer is the fans so if they’re going to do something man united

    For years have put something out there and waited to see how it how it goes um and they may well just be dropping this out there to see how the fans react um and and and and and and ultimately the message back to the club and inos and S

    Jim and everybody else has got to be you’re not going to get a free ride R because you haven’t bought the entirety of the club it’s not a full sale and you can’t tell us what the good and the Bad and the Ugly is you’ve done a a deal

    With the glazers you’re not allowed to speak negatively about them so we are therefore deprived really of the truth um what we can handle the truth but we won’t get the truth and and we can’t with no track record say that we trust you to get rid of certain players

    Because we’re concerned about what players you’re going to keep and we’ve been down this road before we’ve lost d we’ve lost Cristiano Ronaldo and you’ve kept other people um that’s a concern and those other people you can you can they can be anybody they can be mctom

    They can be rashford they can be Bruno they can be Maguire but the bottom line is we’ve removed big nner coming towards the end of their career leaders before and we still get [Β __Β ] so I think that I’m not opposed to selling anybody because I think the performance of

    United in recent years unless you’re a young player like gacho or Mayu or hland I don’t think you I don’t think you get away with it I really don’t I think any every player’s got to be looked at but you can’t pick and choose who you get

    Rid of You’ you’ve got to get rid of everybody or it won’t work and I I I just think there’s certain I I I think there are certain players at that club who for whatever reason have their claws into that Club so deep that they are almost it doesn’t matter um it doesn’t

    Matter how good they are that’re they’re part of the furniture um and I can think of six straight away hi Mark 14k watching fancy aole get rid of certain players versus wholesale or however you want to write it cheers um I don’t know how that works Sheriff because I don’t

    Really know what you’re talking about um in relation to getting rid of certain players or a full sale um we’re not having a full sale s obviously that that’s not uh that’s not what’s happening um so if you want to reword it I’m more than happy to put it out there

    I don’t really know what what that actually means but um there was a great question a minute ago and it was um what would you what would you do what would you do in this situation and I think this is a great point because this is

    Why I said a few times cost cutting is is something we all don’t like everybody hates that word cost cutting because it it’s a negative um but it it isn’t necessarily a negative if it’s done correctly if you can bring in better players for cheaper and reduce your wage

    Bill why wouldn’t you do it only an idiot wouldn’t do it if somebody said to me you know you know your petrol that you pay for you can get it down the road for half the price and it’s the same petrol only an idiot is not going to

    Start going down the road so look that’s cost cutting and it’s for a it’s for a good reason so you can the the outcry about the word cost cutting makes me laugh because cost cutting can be a positive as well but it can also be a massive negative it can also be we’re

    Not buying that brand of shower gel anymore even though it’s really really nice we’ve got to save money so we’re now getting the cheap one and and that that’s the thing and I don’t know what the truth is I don’t know what ino’s plan is are they cost cutting to get the

    Cheap option and save money or are they cost cutting because they found things that they think are better for the for half the price and that’s where the question has to be asked and you know what when you’re balancing that question out you also have to remember that we

    Are we are still owned by the glazers and you also have to remember the last 10 years and there’s absolutely very little reason for most man united fans to go I’m positive that we’re doing it for the right reasons I’m positive if we Sal veran and kaziro will get better

    Players for cheaper and if you feel like that lovely stuff but and I’m not a cynic I genuinely don’t trust either answer so I’m like skeptical and you have to be vocal about that of course you do um cyber spider says instead of selling casemiro sell Scott Ericson and Donnie M Mayu mounts

    And new boxto boox player are Replacements it’s about boxing smart um and Mark do you watch a lot of non- Premier League football just wondering because everyone in United stand always says I haven’t seen a lot of this player when we’re looking at someone says kfj well I think people are very selective

    About they what they watch aren’t they time uh some people just watch United some people don’t watch other Premier League games uh SIU says uh between the owners trying to save a book and the coach uh falling out with all our most talented players it’s hard to see a

    Glimmer of hope says uh well you know I think there there’s always hope and at the end of the day we are still owned by the glazers and this has their fingerprints all over it but inos and S Jim Radcliffe will be the face of it

    Says Tony and that you know but In fairness that’s what they’re fighting against I you know I have a lot of sympathy for um I don’t the reality is I didn’t want this but the reality is it’s the reality I do have a lot of sympathy with inos and S Jim because whatever

    They do people will think that if there’s a glimmer of negativity around something it will be a Glazer puppet and there’s nothing he can do about that some people would say well he is a Glazer puppet technically because he only owns 25% and the glazers are in

    Charge therefore he’s a puppet but on the other hand what if he is absolutely determined to remove the glazers in a few years time and make man united a great Club again and he knows about everything he wants there has to be a little bit of slack there but on the

    Other hand as well there has to be that suspicion and the only way you can move through that is is by making good decisions I I I I I read it in a an article a few weeks ago and I completely agree with it there was like there will

    Be no honeymoon period for inos there will be no leeway for inos if they bought the full club and cleared the debt then he would have got a honeymoon period he would have been in given time but because he’s in in bed with the glazes so to speak there is

    No real patience or time or leeway everything he does will be scrutinized by everybody uh and he’s got to get it right which is why I think not sacking ten hog until at least the summer is an intelligent move and I’ll call out the positives I think that’s an intelligent

    Move um because you know if he comes in and sacks him straight away look at what look at how popular Mourinho is now after being being sacked even though we all agreed with it at the time time’s been a very very kind on the sacking of

    Mourinho that it was the wrong thing to do um I think not spending money in January is a very intelligent thing to do it’d be very easy to walk in and say there’s 50 million quid but I think it’s a mistake so look I think that’s a good

    Idea as well um I think the Strategic review is a good idea as well but not everything they’re going to do is going to be a good idea um because if they if it was they’d already own a football club they’ve tried to own Barcelona they’ve tried to own Chelsea they’ve

    Tried to take nice to certain levels and they haven’t quite got it right so there is going to be mistakes and because there will be mistakes um I think it’s only right as fans that we scrutinize a lot of the decision- making and question whether it’s the right thing or not

    Whether they listen is Up For Debate is havy Gara replacing casemiro says rean no um he’s not even a holding midfielder for a start he’s a 20y old box tobox player with the potential to play at six but also May well just be an eight um no

    Um he’s not a placement for casmiro um from what I’ve seen uh Mark do you watch I’ve done that one from kfj um hope you’re okay says Jack do you fancy our chances in winning the FA Cup this season well you know what Jack uh to to

    To pardon pardon me for the football in cliche but I really am just going to take it uh a step at a time because I feel that um it’s very difficult um to sort of um what’s the word um can’t get me words out it’s very difficult to be confident

    Around Manchester United at the moment as soon as you say oh we’ll beat Wigan comfortably you turn the game on and you realize the players aren’t up for it and you think this could be a very long evening so I want us to do

    Well in the FA Cup um it’s the only cup we can win now and I think the first job is to get through Wigan and hope we can just get a few easy draws I really wouldn’t fancy the um prospects of playing a Liverpool or a Manchester City um at the moment

    And they’re obviously both into the next round so um yeah the FA Cup is is massive though I mean it doesn’t really matter what I think and it doesn’t really matter what you think what I can say with total um honesty is that the FA

    Cup ten hog has got to go deep it’s got to go really deep into the FA Cup I mean he’s got to be in that FA Cup in April and that’s the semi-finals he’s got to be in the FA Cup then because if he’s out of the FA Cup in January February or

    March then there’s still a long time left in the season and people will be going get rid of him as soon as I mean look this is what happened to David Moyes as soon as top four is mathematically not possible David moy’s got the sack I

    Would say if ten hog is mathematic Bally out of the race for top four in March and we’re out the FA Cup you’d really wonder whether he’ll survive the summer um so I think that he’s got to stay in the FA Cup and Champions League qualification for as long as possible

    And certainly April and looking at some of the fixtures Champions League qualification we could be out of that race by March so he’s got to he’s got to go well in the FA Cup because um whether I think it or whether you think it his job is under scrutiny without a

    Shadow of a doubt uh s s Jim sjin says we’re going to win the FA Cup hope so I would sell everyone that’s been here since OE in my opinion we had our worst League season ever because of each and every one of them says Jack you know

    What I I think um you know just talking about the players for a moment um I mean the interesting thing about casmiro is I think he’s sort of um immune I think he gets a pass and I I think Martinez gets a pass as well I don’t understand the

    Criticism of casemiro other than the injury because the amazing thing about casemiro is when you look at it is that and I want to talk about the players for a moment but when you look at casemiro last season brilliant I my player of the year casemiro I think if you took

    Casemiro out that team last year would’ have been mid-table I think he was that good um start of the Season really struggled but so did rashford so did Bruno and fact so did everybody so everybody’s had a [Β __Β ] season this year apart from probably two or three players

    And also one of the big criticisms that casmiro got from pratts who’ve played the game but clearly don’t analyze the game is we heard nonsense like his legs are gone I’m telling you now Gabby his legs are gone he’s gone his legs are gone he’s fell off and I’m like he

    Hasn’t there’s no way his legs have fell off I’ve just watched him playing the World Cup for Brazil and he was he was probably Brazil’s best player I’ve just watched him play for Man United and he was our best player across the whole season his legs have not gone in the

    Space of two weeks what happened to casemiro is what’s happened to Mayu it’s what’s happened to amrabat you play holding midfielder for Man United and you’re being you’re like a daddy long legs having your legs pulled off you don’t know where which way you’re going it’s and and and I think that’s what

    Sort of threw a lot of people with casemiro at the start of the season they were like how’s this player who was so good last year not doing well this year and it was the Midfield tweak that ten hog did he removed the eight next to casmiro and went to this weird two

    Attacking midfielders which exposes your midfielder and we’ve seen it happen to Mayu and we’ve seen it happened to amrabat so Kazmir for me isn’t really an issue he’s the injury is an issue but I don’t I think when he comes back as long as we put someone with him and we don’t

    Leave him on his own again I think we will see an improved casemiro much the same as we saw with martinez but I think the big problem we’ve got with the team at the moment is that it’s just not likable um it’s really sad I feel guilty

    Saying this but they’re not likable as a team there’s certain individuals that are more unlikable than others and there are certain individuals that you really like you know I’m a massive fan of Rasmus I like gacho mayu’s been a breath of fresh air there’s a few others as

    Well to be fair and there’s a few that you’re just really pissed off with but as a collective it’s not a likable team and that’s not fair on some of them but that team is not likable and that’s something s Jim’s got to look at because football fans aren’t stupid they’re not

    I mean I’ve been to so many games and seen you you’re there and you pick up on the crowd who they like and who they don’t like and it’s always been like that I I’ve experienced that for 40 years you know you’re watching a game and you’re like a live game and you

    Could you know a player gets the ball and you can you can tell who the crowd like you can tell who the crowd don’t mind and you can tell who the crowd really don’t think should be wearing a man united shirt and that is hard to turn especially with matcho fan it’s

    Hard to turn because they’re there a lot of these people are season ticket holders and they’re not going to just suddenly see that player score a goal and go I’ve been wrong for the last two years so this is a problem an identity problem for Man United and you don’t

    Turn it around by doing a bit of charity work in midweek you know that’s great but that’s not how you do it you don’t turn it around with a bit of PR spin some of these players at man united have got a real identity crisis with its support where they’re not likable and

    That is a big problem that s Jim should be putting in as part of his review because I I you know I do this show most days and it and it stuns me how disliked some of our players are that I like and then you know you you don’t I mean I

    I’ll name a name Delo I can’t believe how much Delo splits this fan base because I really like him you know he he has got some limitations but I really like Delo and I think he really likes Man United and I think he works really hard and I think he’s a likable player

    But it it really surprises me when I see in the chat how some people just really don’t like doo not like dislike him but as a player they’re like no I think he’s crap Luke Shaw is another one I’ve always been a massive fan of Luke Shaw

    He’s a real divisive player like some people think he [Β __Β ] and and it amazes me so that’s a big problem for inos um not in relation to Luke sha and delone and saying sell those two there are other players as we know that we mention

    A lot that we don’t need to mention here but but it really is a problem with United at the moment it’s not just the manager it’s not just the glazers there is a real problem with the man united fan base and that playing Squad and basically the trust is gone isn’t it

    That’s the problem most man united fans don’t trust those players and the one thing you want to do on a Saturday afternoon or well Sunday afternoon or whatever time they play the games now is when you’ve been working hard all week or you know you park your life to watch

    Your team and you want your team to embody you and represent you and that’s what it always is and you know what you might see a stevenage fan or a SCH rosbury fan who all right they’re not the best team in the world but when they watch their team they feel they’re part

    Of their team and United have lost that they’ve lost that connection with their fans fan base that their players have lost that connection because they can’t be trusted they can do what they did against Viller in the second half and really be part of that crowd and then

    They can turn up at Forest and just not be asked and and and that is a big problem as well you can talk about cutting costs you can talk about rebuilding Old Trafford you can talk about changing the manager but fundamentally what do we see most as

    Fans we watch 90 minutes two or three times every week and that should brand that’s your target that’s your audience and that playing Squad that team at the moment has got a very low likeability rating and it’s got to go up and um the funny thing about that is as somebody

    Said people like casemiro are very likable and they’re winners who’ve done it all are they the players you really want to be getting rid of from the club just to save a bit of money or do you want to look at some of the players that aren’t as likable who haven’t actually

    Got a winning mentality and and again this all has to go into it because s David brailford might say to S Jim I want to get rid of casemiro because there’s people who will give us good money for him and it will bring his wage

    Down but s Jim might go yeah but the fans like him and he’s a winner get rid of him and we lose that and we keep players that the fans maybe don’t like as much who aren’t winners you know Dave what I’m talking about these are conversations it’s not always about

    Money because what what what price what money do they make from as not being in tune with the fans uh with the team no money but then you do really because happier fan base spends more money and is more vocal about the club they love um massive massive absolutely massive um

    In a way I’d love to be involved but in another way I think it’s a very very very difficult job and it’s a much easier job when you own the full Club if you own the full Club it’s an easier job it’s a much harder job when you you’ve

    Only got 25% and the glaz is involved uh Mark remember what Ronaldo said about the low he’s the one among very short list of players who is more technical ability in higher ceiling says akill cost cutting will cost us in quality players says your Mason and uh Sheriff

    Has just gifted 50 memberships by the way I didn’t notice that but I always will because we’ve got a little uh section now where it lists off all super chats and everything so thank you Sheriff um really appreciate that you’re a legend Amir says why does the media

    Always think man united fans are thick like you said Mark this is just a project and I’m worried mid table is coming says Amir uh between Del and Waka who’s more technical uh Del I think waka’s better defensively Mark I’m a supporter is the problems at United psychological among the players well yes

    Bounty Hunter I think there is a mentality problem there I really hope we see a Bruno casemiro and Mayu Midfield says vag I mean look yeah just just once give us that Midfield yeah um Williams says Mark honestly s Jim is clueless I have no faith in a guy who is in bed

    With the glazers the club is finished I don’t see Jim doing anything says William um and ran says obviously it’s meant ridiculous if momy outlasts casemiro um and Glenny boy says I guess if anyos are intending to appoint what they see as Best in Class director football and head of recruitment there

    Must be some method to the madness let’s hope yeah look and look I was very angry um when I look I I I’ve got to be fair to myself I will apologize if I get things wrong but I did say last March when the Elliot group were looking to uh

    Were being rumored to be um offering the glazers a chance to stay I lost my [Β __Β ] you can find the video but basically this story came out this American Investment Company was going to buy a percentage and keep the glazers in and I lost my [Β __Β ] because I basically said

    Anybody who does that is an enemy of the football club anybody who props the glazers up and allows them to stay is an enemy of the football club and I and I and I nailed that flag to the Mast you you know and and I stand by it so um it

    Sort of sent me down a road with this with the inos deal where I couldn’t be a hypocrite I had to say look I’m dead against this it’s it’s keeping the glazers in it’s not a full sale and I’ve got to be consistent just because it’s s

    Jim who’s a local lad and you know supports the club he’s still doing a deal with the glazers and keeping them here and I said when the Elliot group were going to do it that they’re an enemy of the football club so I I did say and enemy of the football club at

    The time I also said it was a vanity project where he just clearly wants to get hold of some part of the football club for his own purposes and if he was a genuine Manchester United fan he’d look at the guitar bid and go that’s

    Better for the club and I said that as well and it’s been a long time since I’ve said it but to be honest I probably still agree with it if I was a man united fan and I had the money to buy 25% of the club but there’s somebody

    Who’s going to clear the debt and buy all of it I know that’s better for the club I know it is but I want to own part of the club because I think I can build it might take me longer but I think I can that’s what a vanity project is

    There’s it’s it’s about what I think it’s not about what’s necessarily best for the projects it’s what I think and I think that’s what sjim has done my hope is because it’s and I also said when it was a reality I mean you can moan about

    It when you don’t want it to happen but when it happens you either keep moaning about it or you try to see the positives of it and you try to live in the reality I didn’t want this but it is happening so I hope it works that’s

    Where I am the reality is it’s happening and I hope it works and whether it’s a vanity project or not it can still work as a vanity project um whether he’s getting into bed with the glazes or not there is still a possibility that at

    Some point the glazes are out and we are successful and that’s all I can hope for and if it all comes crashing down they can can sell it to somebody who would have done what Qatar was going to do anyway but you know I just hope it is

    Going to work because I think the fan base bloody deserves it I think the last 10 years has been horrific and there are so many open goals to make things slightly better and hopefully accumulation wise things will get better but I suppose that’s why when I say what

    I’ve all just said there about the Elliot group and everything that’s why when I see things about selling Varan or Kazmir or anything like that I get concerned because I don’t trust this project the trust has to be earned I think that’s a great thing to say

    Actually I don’t trust anything I hear about s Jim or any offs not because I don’t like them not because I don’t think they could be successful but because the trust has not been earned and I think that’s the best way isn’t it earn trust has to be earned and

    They’ve got to earn our trust and actions speak louder than words and there are so many actions to be done um and look one thing is it will be a very interesting Road I suppose suppose Glenny boy says I guess if any have done that one thank you very much and

    Um Zayn says what would you bring back Memphis dep pie can play at striker and left wing he’s on the bench because of marata and thoughts on Santiago gimnez 18 goals and broke Luis Suarez’s record in the era de e Zane we’ve got forito on the show tomorrow and I’m uh doing the

    Show because uh Beth’s not until later because we’ve got a match so I’m with Fabrizio tomorrow at half pass one this is my main topic of conversation uh Teo verer is off the table where are we going next so watch that show at half past one because

    That’s the question I can’t answer Zane you mentioned Memphis depay I’ve heard a TK I’ve heard Malin I’ve heard all sorts um United look like they’re going to bring a striker in who is it going to be and I don’t have that answer I mean as

    Long as it’s not Val veor I think we can all sleep safely at night can’t we that hit’s performance is going to increase uh I’m not going to talk about that rayan it’s a bit inappropriate to be honest but he’s basically slagging off habits um which is I think fine

    Um yeah well great show tonight I enjoy these sorts of shows um because I don’t necessarily have the answer it’s a debate um but I think some people get really sensitive about it’s it’s the it’s the and some people say well you’re like this and I hope I I hope I hope I

    Don’t come across as this but maybe I do because I try my best to well I think on this I’ve said look scales you know you can cost cut and be successful you can also cost cut because you’re saving money um I don’t know which way it’s

    Going to go but you also get people who are so far up their own ass they just think they know everything and tell other I can’t stand people who go you’re wrong you’re wrong you’re wrong you’re wrong about that because very rarely is somebody definitively wrong about something that person who’s telling you

    Wrong doesn’t actually have all the detail on so you know you’re wrong that can’t can’t go that fast have you ever driven it no but you’re wrong well you’ve never driven it so we’ve never driven this path we’ve never walked this path we don’t know the solutions and I

    Think that these sort of conversations are really important because you can read an article and go yeah that that sounds great let’s get rid of casmiro and replace him with somebody who’s cheaper who’s better but then you go how do you do that then because you’re only

    Going to save 25 million in wages and a replacement is surely going to cost you more than 50 million so how do you do that and conversation debate and ultimately we all care that’s what it’s all about we all want we dream the same dream and we want the same thing United

    Back on top but what we don’t want is more wasted time and cost cutting to you know fight for fifth every year with a weaker team that earns less money uh we’re being linked to Andreas K Christensen uh according to the mean says Andy cheatting uh I don’t know

    Anything about that Andy um but thank you very much for the updates on that um I heard what was his name what was the name of that Striker uh well Christensen is a bloody is that the center back at Barcelona oh my God oh my God yeah things could get wor I mean

    Look that that I don’t know how true that is but if you get rid of Iran to bring in Christensen that’s exactly what I’m talking about lose your best center back for somebody who I think Harry McGuire is probably better than why save money uh I don’t

    Know I don’t know um what was the name of that Striker is it soberg or something like that oh I can’t remember his name it’s not soberg solsburg or I’m sure he I’m sure he played for somebody that we played recently I can’t remember his bloody name

    Um what’s his name he’s a striker um not Gass see I can’t remember whether he plays for leig or something like that I can’t think I can’t think I can’t think who it is and no one in the chat’s getting it either um not pulson

    No sth that’s it sth well done yeah I’ve heard it be linked to him as well Sao um I don’t know what he’s up to at the moment but um I’ve heard us get linked to him uh is it is it Villa Royale 28 Alexander sorloth yeah I don’t know I don’t know

    Mojo just gifted 20 memberships as well you’re all legends great show tonight we’re back in the morning at 10 o’clock it’s match day tomorrow it’s match day tomorrow how exciting is that and also for briter Romano at half one that’s going to be a cracking show uh I’ll

    Speak to you later take care thank you very much for tuning in tonight we’ve had a cracking show is

    48 Comments

    1. Id get rid of rashford before casemiro or varane. Two proven winners. It’s gonna get much worse yet. Cost cutting is no good if you leave crap that’s gonna get relegated

    2. Mark wants us to do a Brighton amd then doesn't think we can get good players for cheap.

      25m would buy the future Kante and Mitoma for example. Mitoma was Β£8m Antony Β£80m

    3. 5:18 United do this all the time – get rid of players without succession in mind! Totally agree that we need a clear out but if you are getting rid of your productive high earners then you need to ensure that you have good enough youngsters not Maguire's

    4. Mark you haven't a clue about FFP.

      Wouldn't have mattered if Qatar had bought us or not! The most an owner can put into transfer kitty is apprjx 35mil a year.

      It wouldn’t matter who bought us. Until we sort the books, we cant spend anything. And RADICALLY reducing the wage bill is not only the correct thing to do when you consider the piss poor level of players we have, but it's also essential to allow us to spend again.

      And as for Chelsea, they'll get their pants pulled down eventually for their breeches.

      We need to do it right.

    5. It's not sustainable or wise to keep offering bigger and bigger wages.
      We talk about a cultural reset at the club and that starts with how we do business, how we attract players. Currently we attract players that are after a big pay day. We need to strike a balance of offering a top wage without being silly but more importantly we need to offer a footballing vision that a player will buy into.
      We should have contracts that the riches lie in success achieved

    6. I think it is what comes after the "cost cutting" that matters. If we are replacing them with the next upcoming youngsters then I am fine. They will have lower wages and more hunger to win things. If we replaced them with another old reject then serious questions needed to be asked about INEOS

    7. Mark the reason why people singe about you is that you are a pain in the arse, Why.
      Because you talk tooo much sense. Keep being a pain in their arse πŸ‘πŸ‘

    8. Ineos’ strategy has been to buy ailing businesses, cut costs, and build them up. That said, the β€˜build them up’ bit will take some doing with Manchester United – like you say, they’ll need to recruit very well. And the last year or so hasn’t inspired me with confidence.

    9. The norm is sign a player to replace one. This has not been happening at United for years now. Its sell a player and not replace them or buy a player and stick him in the squad then at the end of the season balance the squad by getting rid of some of the youngsters coming through

    10. its really puzzling how last transfer window magurie and mctominay were up for sale, now we aren't even discussing selling them but we rather sell the better players in the position to keep those two here longer

    11. We should keep Varane and Casemiro that still has a lot to offer us and have a few good years to offer us. We keep them and have young talented top players build around them. Their experience and temperament is needed.

    12. And this is the new era? I have a plan let's sell our best players and hold on to all the losers, like Anthony….that sounds like a grand idea…. NOT FAR OFF! We are lightyears away based on our recent performance, not on any runners or whisper bullshit. The only way one can judge a situation is on hard data. Let's see what happens this month re the window, and a bit more pressing, what happens tonight. Tonight is a real test as it will show how much bottle we have. Wigan will be no push over.

    13. A total mentality shift has to happen, it happened to Arsenal when Arteta took over, Rashford, Mctominay, maybe Shaw, Miguire, wan bissaka, maybe dalot, maybe bruno, and Sancho all have to go

    14. It’s like unraveling a string of Christmas Tree lights… upon first inspection, it looks to big a mess to fix. But if you keep doing little bit after little bit (which may look from the outside that you aren’t getting anywhere) you will eventually do it… Ten Hag IN…

    15. Not because they are high earners. It’s because they are foreign. Big Jim against the foreigners. Dinner lady rashford getting a pass again.

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