67th General Assembly, 1st Session
>> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE HERE, TUESDAY. WEEK FOUR OF THE LEGISLATURE AND HONOUR YOU TO THE LEGISLATURE. I SEE MY FAMILY FARMS LONG-TIME EMPLOYEE IS HERE, AND 23 YEARS, HE HAS WORKED FOR OUR FAMILY FARM AND WELCOME HIM. AND ESTHER NIELSEN FROM DENMARK
ON THE MARK RIGHT NOW, AND SHE HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND SHE CAN’T BELIEVE HOW NICE ISLANDERS ARE, MADAM SPEAKER. I HOPE SHE CAN UPHOLD THAT TODAY. AND ALSO, MADAM SPEAKER, THE TUESDAY AFTER BLACK FRIDAY, AND THE TUESDAY CALL TO HELP OTHERS. THIS IS A GLOBAL MOVEMENT AND
THE ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT HERE IN P.E.I. THAT YOU CAN DONATE TO. WHETHER IT’S EASTER SEALS, HUMANE SOCIETY, BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS, ALL KINDS OF PLACES TO GIVE TO, AND FIND A WAY TO GIVE YOUR TIME AND GIVE A SMILE AND HELP YOUR NEIGHBOURS AND GIVE A DONATION, AND LASTLY, MADAM SPEAKER, I ATTENDED THE
POTATO BOARD GALA FRIDAY NIGHT, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, AND I GOT TO SPEAK WITH THE HONOURABLE MP LAWRENCE MacAULEY AND THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND MADAM SPEAKER, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE TWO PEOPLE ON NARCOTIC — RECOGNIZED THATNIGH. AND ANDY WALKER FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO AGRICULTURE, MADAM SPEAKER, AND ALONG THE
OUTSTANDING PERSON WAS RAY KEENAN FROM KEENAN FARMS, HE WAS RECOGNIZE EVERYONE AND ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER. >> AND RECOGNIZE THE ATLANTIC CONGRESS OF BLACK PARLIAMENTIANS. WE HAVE TO THE LEFT, I LET MY COLLEAGUE DO THE FORMAL RECOGNITION, AND TONY AND ALLEY, AND SUZY — SUZY IS OVER THERE,
YEAH AND DR. VIRMA, WELCOME TO PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ADVOCATE FOR AND ADVOCATE FOR MORE EQUITABLE AND DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE REGION HERE IN ATLANTIC CANADA, AND MADAM SPEAKER, WHILE ON MY FEET, I WANT TO BRING UP A FEW EVENTS, DOING A TOY DRIVE, AND TAKING
DONATIONS OF NEW UNWRAPPED TOYS FROM 12 TO 4 AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THEY DID WITH THE TOYS AND THEY ARE GOING TO DELIVER THE TOYS IN THE AREA DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, AND MJ BAKERY CHILDREN’S MANAGEABLE GARDENS HAS A LIGHT DISPLAY AND DONE IT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS
AND ALWAYS A GREAT TURNOUT, AND THERE IS HORSE AND SLEIGH, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER AND THE MUSIC FROM THE CHILDREN’S CHOIR AND ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE HOSPITAL MATERNITY WARD IN MEMORY OF ANNE PERRY. THE PRESENTATIONS PUT ON AT THE PALMER ROAD HALL, AND THEY ASK FOR A NON-PERISHABLE FOOD
DONATION FOR THE CARING CUPBOARD, AND 1975, AND I AM SURE THAT THE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY-INVERNESS, BOBBY ORR RETIRED FROM THE NHL. WITH THAT, MADAM SPEAKER, I WISH EVERYONE A GREAT DAY IN THE LEGISLATURE. THANK YOU. >> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND
WELCOME TO EVERYONE WHO IS JOINING US IN THE GALLERY, AND WONDERFUL TO SEE SO MANY FACES AND HELLO TO TAMARA STEELE JOINING US, AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM CHARLOTTETOWN-VICTORIA PARK AND AROUND THE ISLAND AND AS MENTIONED FRIDAY, A FEW OF US TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTAKE IN THE ROTARY YOUTH PARLIAMENT,
AND TO SAY IT WAS A PLEASURE, IS A HE UNDERSTATEMENT, AND WE SAT IN THE CHAIRS AND TRYING TO BE THE FACILITATOR AND IT WAS EVIDENT TO ME, THE PAGES THAT TOOK PART, AND CAMPBELL GAUGE, EVELYN, EMELINE WHO ARE THE PAGES IN THE LEGISLATURE AND IT WAS OBVIOUS THEY HAD EXPERIENCE
WITH THE LEGISLATURE, AND COMFORTABLE BOEING, AND COMFORTABLE WITH THE LOS ANGELES AND IN TURN IT MADE OTHERS COMFORTABLE, TOO AND GAUGE WAS THE CLERK SHE SAYS SHE IS IN HERE EVERY DAY, AND IS REALLY INTERESTED IN THE WORK, AND EMMALINE STANLEY WON THE YOUTH PARLIAMENTIAN OF THE YEAR AWARD. SHE WAS VERY SHOCKED.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU I — YOU KNOW, I COULD HEAR HER FRIENDS AROUND HER TALKING AND THEY ALL SAID WE KNEW IT. WE KNEW IT. WE TOLD YOU WERE GOING TO WIN. CONGRATULATIONS TO EMMALINE, AND THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING THAT AND I KNOW OUR CLERK HELPS WITH
THAT, AND VERY WELL DONE, AND THANK YOU TO THE YOUTH WHO WERE CRITICAL IN THEIR THINKING, AND STRONG IN THEIR ARGUMENT, AND PRESENTATIONS, AND COURAGEOUS TO SAY THE THINGS AND PARTICIPATE AND VERY WELL DONE, AND I DID SEE THE PROVOCATION WHICH IS THE PLAY WRITTEN AROUND THE CREATION
OF THE P.E.I. RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT CENTRE. I MEAN, IT WAS LITERALLY FOUR WOMEN ON THE STAGE DOING THEIR THING. HOLY COW, THE STRENGTH THAT CAME FROM SUCH A HORRIFIC — FROM HORRIFIC INCIDENTS. IT WAS WELL DONE, AND I LAUGHED AND I CRIED AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT A PERSON CAN DO WATCHING A
PLAY. IT WAS INCREDIBLY MOVING, AND INSPIRATIONAL, AND GREAT WORK ON THE WHOLE TEAM WHO WORKS AT THE P.E.I. RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT CENTRE. AND FINALLY, MADAM SPEAKER, GIVING TUESDAY. IF YOU’RE IN A POSITION TO GIVE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND THE ORGANIZATION THAT BEST REFLECTS THE CHANGE YOU’D LIKE TO SEE IN
THE WORLD AND DONATE WHAT YOU CAN. AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU, MADAM. >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY-INVERNESS. >> AND THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AND I HAVE CONSTITUENTS IN THE GALLERY, AND GALEN SNOWDON, AND I HAVE KNOWN GALE FOR SOME TIME, AND USED TO WORK IN THE
HOSPITAL, AND EWAN IS WELL KNOWN IN THE CEMENT BUSINESS THERE, AND HE LOVES TO POOR THE COMMENT AND A LONG DRIVEWAY ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT IS. GALE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR CONFEDERATION TRAIL, AND HAD A NUMBER OF CORRESPONDENCE AND APPRECIATION. AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A
COUPLE OF COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE OVER IN NOVA SCOTIA THAT I GOT TO KNOW OVER THE YEAR AND TONY, I BELIEVE WHEN I WAS MINISTER OF CULTURE AND I HAD A CHANCE TO SHOW HIM THE PROVINCIAL LEGISLATURE AND THAT IS IN THE OLD BUILDING, AND YOUR CAREER HELPING YOU A LONG TIME,
AND HELPED YOU A BIT IN THE GAME OF POLITICS. SUZY HANSON, ACKNOWLEDGING HER, WE WERE AT A DEFERENCE TOGETHER AND AT THE COUNCIL OF STATE GOVERNMENTS, AND AN ORGANIZATION THAT RECOGNIZED ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS NORTH AMERICA, AND 22 STATES AND PROVINCES REPRESENTED THERE AND I GOT TO KNOW HER THERE AND PASSION AND ENERGY IS
WELL RECOGNIZED AND ALL THE BEST AND WELCOME TO PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AND IT IS A PLEASURE TO RISE IN FRONT OF SUCH GREATNESS, AND THE AUDIENCE HAVE DONE GREAT WORK FOR INCLUSION AND EQUITY, AND
THEY GET IT AND I HOPE OUR CONVERSATION TODAY DO OUR CONVERSATIONS JUSTICE. WE HOST — CHARLOTTETOWN, PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, IS HOSTING THE CANADIAN CONGRESS OF BLACK PARLIAMENTIAN THE ATLANTIC DIVISION, AND THIS IS AN ATLANTIC CAUCUS, BASED ON WORKING TOGETHER THROUGH BLACK ISSUES AND — MARGINALIZED ISSUES. AND HENRY MUAMBA HERE.
THE NEW AFRICAN CANADIAN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND PULLED OFF ONE OF THE BEST CAUCUSES I’VE BEEN TO IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS, AND TAMARA STEELE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BLACK CULTURAL SOCIETY WHO IS HERE. SHE HELPED US OUT YESTERDAY WITH THIS CONFERENCE, AND JUST AN INCREDIBLE SPARK AND LIGHT AND
THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING IS SECOND TO NONE. AND WE HAVE DR. VARMA WHO IS — YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE ROLE MODELS IN MY MIND AND THEN YOU HAVE DR. VARMA WHO WROTE THE SYSTEMIC RACISM REPORT FOR NEW BRUNSWICK. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE NEWS LATELY.
IT’S ONE YEAR OLD. THE WORK YOU DID — THE 89 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT, AND P.E.I. WAS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, AND I WILL NEVER LOSE THAT DOCUMENT, AND I HOPE THE NEW BRUNSWICK GOVERNMENT PAYS ATTENTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT WORK. IN THE CONFERENCE, WE HAVE OUR COFOUNDER IN — HE’S BEEN
ELECTED SINCE 2015 AND STARTED THIS IN 2015, MLA FOR COLE HARBOUR-PORTLAND VALLEY, AND HE IS A CO-FUNDER, INSPIRATION TO — COFOUNDER AND AN INSPIRATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THE MLA HE HAS TWO SONS ASSOCIATED WITH CHARLOTTETOWN IN SOME WAY, HOLLAND COLLEGE, AND GETS OVER OFTEN, AND THANK YOU,
ALI FOR YOUR WORK, AND SUZY HANS ZEN FOR HALIFAX-NEEDHAM, YOU ARE A BRIGHT LIGHT AND SPARK. IONA SUTDARD, FIRST BLACK ELECTED HALIFAX CITY COUNCILLOR OF ALL TIME, AND ONLY TOOK 400 YEARS, AND YOU’RE THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK TODAY. I THINK THAT’S EVERYBODY. AND WELCOME TO THE GALLERY.
YOU’LL BE SEEING SOME STUFF IN THE PRESS LATER ON, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND I HOPE THESE QUESTIONS DO YOU JUSTICE. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND WELCOME TO EVERYONE IN THE GALLERY, AND THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 16 CORNWALL MEADOW BANK.
PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND IS EXCITED TO SHARE THE NEWS THAT LUKE McGARVEL IS ONE OF THE FOUR CANADIANS WITH A PRESTIGIOUS RHODES SCHOLARSHIP THIS YEAR, AND HOLDS A 4.3 GPA AND RECEIVED MULTIPLE AWARDS AND HEAD TO OXFORD 2024 FOR FULLY FUNDED POST GRADUATE STUDIES JOINING RHODES SCHOLAR SHALLS. HE HOPES TO STUDY ENVIRONMENTAL
CHANGE AND MANAGEMENT, AND SAILOR THIRD CLASS WITH THE ROYAL CANADIAN NAVY WHERE HE WORKS TO BRING A BILINGUAL PERSPECTIVE TO THE ROYAL DIVISION, AND HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE UPEI ENGINEERING SOCIETY, AND VOLUNTEERED WITH SPECIAL OLYMPICS, AND TAUGHT CODING TO GIRL GUIDES, AND FOUNDED THE UPEI SPORTS TEAM, AND AFTER
ENTERING UPEI FOR POST SECONDARY STUDY, HE STUDIED ABROAD AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY THROUGH A FULL BRIGHT CANADA’S KILLEM FELLOWSHIP FROM JANUARY TO MAY, AND RECEIVING 4.0 GPA AND REPRESENTING CANADA AT THE JAPAN-CANADA ACADEMIC CONSORTIUM. AND HE COMPETED AT THE COMPETITION WHERE HIS TEAM WAS AWARDED FIRST PLACE IN THE POSITION.
AND HEATHER DR. MORRISON WAS AWARDED THE SCHOLARSHIP IN 1991, AND DR. HELEN BEACON IN 1999. CONGRATULATIONS TO LUKE ON THE AMAZING ACHIEVEMENT. >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> I START OUT CONGRATULATIONS OF LUKE McGARVEL, A STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IT WAS FULLY PRESENT THAT HE WOULD BE THANK
YOU, AND THANK YOU TO HIS MOM AND DAD, CHERYL AND REG ON THIS EXTRAORDINARY ACHIEVEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE GALLERY, AND PARTICULARLY, A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO I CONSIDER FRIENDS. TAMARA STEELE, AND HENRY. SO NICE TO SEE YOU BOTH HERE TODAY AND THE ATLANTIC CAUCUS OF THE BLACK PARLIAMENTIANS,
WELCOME TO PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. MANY I HAVE MET ALONG THE WAY, AND IT IS LOVELY YOU ARE HERE TODAY, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. I HOPE YOU HAVE HAD — I’M SURE YOU HAVE — A SUCCESSFUL CONVENTION. AND I DON’T GET MANY FOLKS FROM
MY DISTRICT SHOWING UP HERE. BUT A SPECIAL PERSON, CONSTITUENT, HAS SHOWN UP, AND THAT’S MY WIFE ANNE WHO IS SITTING BEHIND KERRY CAMPBELL, AND WELCOME AE TO THE PROCEEDINGS. SHE LIKES TO GET IN HERE AT LEAST ONCE DURING THE SITTING, AND LOVELY TO SEE YOU. I DON’T SEE VERY MUCH OF HER
THESE DAYS, AND SOME FOLKS HERE IN THE GALLERY WHO WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN PRODUCING A PETITION REGARDING TRAPPING AND HUNTING HERE ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, AND I WILL BE PRESENTING THAT LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS BEGINNING
WITH THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM MORELL-DONAGH. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. IT’S A PLEASURE RISE TO HIGHLIGHT AN EXCELLENT INITIATIVE AND EXCEPTIONAL CONSTITUENT. SHE HAS BEEN IN ACUTE KIDNEY FAILURE, AND BALANCING FULL FAMILY, WORK, AND 15-HOURS OF DIALYSIS IS NOT AN EASY TASK. DURING SEPTEMBER, JUANITA HUGHES WAS THE CHAIR IN THE ANNUAL
KIDNEY WALK VICTORIA PARK AND BEEN PART OF THE TEAM FOR 15 YEARS UNDER THE TEAM KEEPING IT RENAL. THE TEAM HAS GROWN TO 20 SUPPORTIVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY WALKING AND THIS IS ORGANIZED BY THE KIDNEY FOUNDATION OF CANADA TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY KIDNEY DISEASE. RAISING $15,000 FOR SUPPORT,
CRUCIAL PROJECTS AND RESOURCES THAT THE KIDNEY FOUNDATION OF CANADA OFFERS TO THOSE AFFECTED BY KIDNEY DISEASE, AND WITH A NEATA HAS BEEN — JUANITA HAS BEEN RAISING FUNDS THROUGH HER OWN FACE BOOK ACCOUNT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUCCESS. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: IS THERE ANOTHER STATEMENT? ROTARY YOUTH. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR TYNE
VALLEY-SHERBROOKE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, I’M PLEASED TO RISE TO RECOGNIZE ANOTHER CLEET, THE ONLY ATHLETE TO REPRESENT P.E.I. ON THE TEAM LEADING UP TO THE INVICTUS GAMES WHICH OCCURRED RECENTLY IN GERMANY. THE INVICTUS GAMES IS AN EVENT WHERE ILL AND INJURED VETERANS AND SERVING ARMED FORCE PERSONNEL COMPETE IN TEN SPORTS.
INVICTUS GAMES FEATURES 500 COMPETITORS FROM 21 NATIONS IN 10 DISCIPLINES. KENTONCOMPLETED IN SWIMMING, ROWEING, AND VOLLEYBALL. WITH THE DEPLOYMENT IN AFGHANISTAN, KABUL, AND BOSNIA, KENTON HAS SERVED IN THE MILITARY FOR 24 YEARS AS A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL CANADIAN DRAGOONS. HE IS DEALING WITH THE EFFECTS FROM KNEE AND SHOULDER INJURIES
AS WELL AS POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER. KING CANADA WAS COMPROMISED OF 31 MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE VETERANS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES. KENTON STATED HIS CAREER HIGHLIGHT IS SEEING THE IMPACT OF WHAT IT MEANS TO PUT OTHERS BEFORE HIMSELF. NOT JUST WITHIN HIS TROOP MATES AND THEIR FAMILIES BUT ALSO
WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES. IN CANADA AND ABROAD. CONGRATULATIONS KENTON. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: NO OTHER STATEMENTS? MY LIST HAS DISAPPEARED. ROTARY YOUTH PARLIAMENT WAS HERE FRIDAY. THAT’S ALL RIGHT, AS LONG AS I KNOW WHO IS SPEAKING. QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS, STARTING WITH RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS TAKING NOTICE. THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. THIS PAST WEEKEND, I WAS INFORMED FIRSTHAND OF THE INCREDIBLY SAD STORY THAT TRULY ILLUSTRATES THIS DO NOTHING APPROACH OF THIS GOVERNMENT AND OF THE MINISTER OF HEALTH. SO QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH, HOW MANY CONSTITUENTS DO YOU HELP NAVIGATE THE HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM IN A GIVEN REAR? YEAR?>> Hon. Darlene Compton: TE THEMINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THE NAVIGATOR PROGRAM WE STOOD UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO IS HELPING PEOPLE ACCESS THE VARIOUS DOORS INTO THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. IT WOULD BE IN THE THOUSANDS. I DON’T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
THAT SERVICE IS VERY VALUABLE TO ISLANDERS. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, THE MINISTER WHO LIVES IN THE MINISTER OF HEALTH’S RIDING CONTACTED ME LAST WEEK. HERE IS A STORY I WAS TOLD OF THE MINISTER HELPING THE
ISLANDER NAVIGATE HEALTH CARE. THIS ISLANDER TOLD THE MINISTER ABOUT HIS 16-YEAR-OLD SON DEALING WITH A BRAIN TUMOR, AND GOLF SIZED BALL TUMOR REMOVED, AND LATER RETURNED, AND THE CHEMO AND ALL THAT IS REQUIRED WHEN A FAMILY IS SICK, ENDED UP COSTING $20,000. THEY NEVER COMPLAINED. THEY KEPT THEIR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.
THEY LOOKED AFTER THEIR SON AND ENDURED THE PAIN AND UNCERTAINTY WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE. BUT THE PRESSURE GREW AND THEY TURNED TO THE MINISTER FOR HELP AND HIS ANSWER WAS — HIS SUGGESTION WAS SET UP A gofundmepage. AGOFUNDMEPAGE. THISISTHEMINISTEROFHELP SUPPOSED TO-IS THIS — MADAM SPEAKER, THE QUESTION TO THE
MINISTER OF HEALTH, IS THIS TYPICAL OF HIS LEADERSHIP IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM? >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I CAN TABLE THE EMAIL BACK TO THE CONSTITUENT THAT SAID I DID NOT SUGGEST THAT AT ALL. I AM HAVE SENSITIVE TO THE SITUATION, AND I EXPLAINED WE ARE WORKING ON THE MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
I SENT THE CONSTITUENTS THE RFP WE PUT OUT. I AM SENSITIVE TO THIS YOUNG PERSON’S SITUATION. HE IS — I BELIEVE HE IS ACTUALLY 19 AND NOT 16. I COULD BE WRONG. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND AGAIN WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT TO ISLANDERS AND WE ARE WORKING
THROUGH THAT AND WE ISSUED THE RFP. LIKE I SAID TO THIS GENTLEMAN, I UNDERSTAND IT DOESN’T HELP YOUR SITUATION RIGHT NOW, AND SENSITIVE TO IT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO SUPPORT THIS YOUNG PEOPLE. MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
AFTER THE INCREDIBLE SUGGESTION, IT WENT FURTHER. HE SUGGESTED THAT THE FAMILY CREATE, LIKE I SAID, A GOFUNDME PAGE, AND THAT HE WOULD SHARE IT ON HIS OWN PAGE. IMAGINE, WOW, LIKE, WHAT A GUY. WHAT A DO-NOTHING. WHAT AN INSULT TO THIS FAMILY. DOES THE MINISTER REALIZE THAT SHARING A GOFUNDME PAGE ON
FACEBOOK IS THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEMS AS A RESULT OF A TEENAGER’S BRAIN TUMOR, IS IT REALLY? >> Hon. Darlene Compton: MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I DON’T THINK IT’S APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT PERSONAL ISSUES IN THE HOUSE, AND I DON’T MIND HAVING A SIDE BAR WITH THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION ABOUT THIS SITUATION. IT IS INCORRECT, I DID NOT SAY I WOULD SHARE ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HELP THE YOUNG INDIVIDUAL. THEY DID DO A FUNDRAISING EFFORT BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO SUPPORT THIS INDIVIDUAL. IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME CROSSED HAIRS HERE. BUT I DID GIVE HIM AN UPDATE
ABOUT THE MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THIS YOUNG PERSON AND THEIR FAMILY, THANK YOU. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE FAMILY — BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE. THEY HAVE REACHED TO THREE PEOPLE ON THAT SIDE.
THEY’VE HAD NOTHING. THEY DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ANY OTHER FAMILY WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, MINISTER. I’VE BEEN ELECTED AS AN OFFICIAL SINCE 2011 AND I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN MY RESPONSIBILITY AS AN MLA. I DO MY BEST TO SUPPORT ALL ISLANDERS, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE IN MY COMMUNITY.
THIS STORY, MADAM SPEAKER, IS OFF THE CHARTS. EVEN FOR A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOTHING. IT NEGLECTS ITS RESPONSIBILITY. SO QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH, IN THIS NEW POLICY DIRECTIVE OF YOURS THAT PEOPLE SEEK ASSISTANCE FOR MEDICAL TRAVEL SHOULD FIRST SET UP A GOFUNDME PAGE AND THAT AS SOME
KIND OF VALUE-ADDED SERVICE, AND PROMOTE FOR THEM ON FACEBOOK. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AGAIN I WILL TABLE THE CONVERSATION I THAT HAD WITH THE CONSTITUENT. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE’RE DOING THIS. AGAIN I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE TO SUPPORT ISLANDERS THAT HAVE TO GO OFF ISLAND FOR TREATMENT. I UNDERSTAND IT’S EXPENSIVE, AND IT’S COSTLY, AND THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THAT’S WHY WE EMBARKED ON THIS PROGRAM TO EXAMINE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND FUND PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING LIFE SAVING TREATMENT.
THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER, THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> IT HAS BECOME AWARE THAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS PARALYZED, AND THE INABILITY TO FACE THE CHALLENGES ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. THE PROBLEMS ARE GROWING AND THE CRISIS SNOWBALLS, DAM SPEAKER.
IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS, IN THE MINISTER’S VIEW, WHAT IS THE ACCEPTABLE NUMBER OF PATIENTS ANNUALLY WHO NEED A HOSPITAL BED WHO ARE THEN FORCED TO WAITN AN EMEENCY DEPARTMENT? >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURLE MINISTER O HEALTH AND WELLNS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. WE’VE HADHIS QUESTION BEFORE,
AND TY CREATED A PATNT BED FLOW CRDINATOR IN ORDERO ADDRESS THE ISSUESND DAMP AS MANY A WE CAN, AND U THE ENRE STEM, NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL FACILY. ANDDDRESSHE ISS OF BED FLOW ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. >> Hon. DarlenCompton:HE HOURABLE LDERF THE OPPOSITI. >> MAM SAKER, HAS BN ASKED THE QUESTIONND DOE’T
NOWHE AWER, ANDFTER ALL THE NBERS ARENLY TAKEN IN EOST RECEN PELLET P.I. REPORT. 2021, AITTLE OVER 000 ISLANDERS STU IN TH EMERGEN DEPARTMENT EN TUGH TH EDED A HPITAL BED. IN 2022/3, THEUMB BALLOONE TO NEARLY 900. IT CLED EMEENCY HOL D ITSEASURE BYATIENTS STAY MADAM SPEAKER AND I WL TABLEHE NBERS.
THAT, MADA SPEAKER IS A 75% INCRSE IN 2 YEARSND ALLF THE PEOPLE –RE WAITING FOR HOSPITAL BEDS. AT MNS THTHER A BEIN TURNED AWAY. SO DOES THE MINISTER NOT DERSTANDHAT THISO-NOTHING GOVERNMET IS HAVING AERRIBLE IMPACT ON PEOPLE WHO NEED HEALTH RE? HOW CAN THE MINISTER JUSTIFY HIS LEVEL OFISMANAGEMENT?
>> Hon. Darle Compton: T HONOURABLE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THANK YOU, MAAM SPEAKER. I DON’T LIKE TOOOK BACKWARDS, LIKE TO LOO FORWARD. B LOONG BACKWARD, AND WE PUT IN VIRAL CARE,ND ADDED THE PHARMACY PLUS PROGRAM, AND IT IS AN IMPOANT SITUATION. IF WE HADN’T DONE SOME OF THE
THIN, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> REQUESTING AN EXPENSIVE REVIEW OF THE EDUCATION POLICIES REVIEW WITH THE RACIALIZED FOCUSED LENS, IN RESPONSE TO THE POSITION, THE GOVERNMENT HIRED A POLICY ADVISOR TO LOOK AT THE
POLICIES THROUGH AN ANTI-RACISM LENS TO IDENTIFY THE GAPS AND THE BARRIERS, AND LAST WEEK THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK, THIS POSITION IS NOT WELL UNDERSTOOD. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE ANTI-RACISM POLICY POSITION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR BRINGING THE QUESTIONS FORWARD.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PREMIER IS THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FILE AND HE’S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, MADAM SPEAKER, AND HE HAS AGREED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE CURRENT COMPLAINT PROCESS AND GOING FORWARD AND WE WANT TO BUILD THIS STRONGER, MADAM SPEAKER, BECAUSE AS OUR POPULATION GROWS, OUR DIVERSITY
HAS GROWN, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE BIPOC COMMUNITY, AND I COMMEND THE MEMBER FOR HIS ADVOCACY ON THIS AND WE WILL WORK WITH HIM TO BUILD THIS. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WE’RE MAKING CHANGES
AND I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THEM, AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. WE KNOW ISLANDERS FROM MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF INSTANCE — INCARCERATIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. WHAT IS YOUR DEPARTMENT DOING TO ENSURE THAT ALL ARE TREATED
EQUITABLY IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. >> THANK Y, MADAM SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION FROM MEMBER OF CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AS OUR DIVERSITY HAS CHANGED ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE WITHIN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WHETHER YOU’RE INCARCERATIONS OR GOING THROUGH
THE PROCESS, MADAM SPEAKER, AND WE HAVE TO BE DIVERSIFIED, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ALL ISLANDERS ARE PROTECTED NO MATTER RACE OR COLOUR OR RELIGION. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> HOUSING IS A SEVERE
CHALLENGING FOR ISLANDERS, AND WE HAVE FOREIGN TEMPORARY WORKERS LIVING BELOW STANDARDS, AND HEALTH CARE WORKERS RECRUITED OUT OF COUNTRY WITH NOW HOUSING IDENTIFIED, AND STUDENTS AT UPEI AND ISLAND COLLEGE STRUGGLING, AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND OTHERS AND WE KNOW PEOPLE LIVING IN SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS, AND OFTEN SHARING OCCUPANCY WITH
ANOTHER PERSON IN ONE ROOM. IN ABSENCE OF THE INSPECTIONS, WHAT IS YOUR DEPARTMENT DOING TO ENSURE THAT RENTAL USE ARE SAFE? >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. WHILE THE MEMBER RAISES ISSUES THAT ARE BROADLY RELATED TO THE GENERAL SHORTAGE OF HOUSING ACROSS THE PROVINCE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER RENTAL STOCK HERE
IN THIS PROVINCE THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE BETTER CARED FOR. WE HAVE DEALT WITH SOME OF THE INCIDENTS HERE IN THE HOUSE AND WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A SELF-REPORTING PROCESS THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IN SEVERE CASES THAT COME FORWARD. BUT, MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT THEY
HAVE A HEALTHY HOUSING AND OWNERS CAN REINVEST IN THEIR PROPERTIES, AND CONTINUE TO BUILD A HEALTHY HOUSING SUPPLY FOR ALL MEMBERS — ALL RESIDENTS OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER OF HEALTH.
FOR BLACK ISLANDERS NO ACCESS TO PRIMARY CARE AND HAVE TO RELY ON VIRTUAL CARE OR EMERGENCY CARE ONLY. HOW CONFIDENCE CAN THERE BE IN A SYSTEM THAT DOESN’T ROUTINELY DEAL WITH DISORDERS BLACK PEOPLE. SICKLE CELL ANEMIA AND HYPERTENSION, AND HEART DISEASE. WHAT IS YOUR DEPARTMENT DOING TO ENSURE THAT DOCTORS, NURSE
PRACTITIONERS, AND ALL HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE CURRENT ON HEALTH DISORDERS AFFECTING ALL SEGMENTS OF THE GROWING DIVERSE POPULATION? >> Hon. Darlene Compton: MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. >> WE HAVE A CHANGE OF CULTURE AND COMPOSITION OF SOCIETY ON
P.E.I. AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND PROPENSITYS NOW WITH THE CHANGE IN CULTURE WE HAVE, AND CONFIDENT THAT THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AT UPEI ARE STAYING ON TO HAVE THE CHANGES. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THE IMPORTANCE TO HAVE THE
FACE REFLECT THEMSELVES, AND RECRUITING FROM AN EQUITY-SEEKING GROUPS INTO ALL LEVELS OF PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION AND INCLUDING LEADERSHIP AND EXECUTIVE IS, AND SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO KNOW SURE THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE IS EQUITABLE AND DIVERSE. AND THE ACT IS TO ENSURE THAT EQUITY IN THE WORKPLACE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE DENIED
POSITIONS FOR REASONS UNRELATED TO ABILITY. WITHOUT THE PROTECTIONS AND THE LEGISLATIVE INSTRUMENTS SUCH AS THE EMPLOYMENT EQUITY ACT, AND THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CIVIL SERVICE ACT TO ADDRESS THIS. MINISTER, WHAT IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE DOG — DOING TO TRULY REFLECT THIS. >> WE WORK FROM A DIVERSITY AND
INCLUSION POLICY SET IN 2019. FROM THAT, WE HAVE THE INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY STRATEGY, 22 TO 25. FROM THAT, PLANS ARE SUBMITTED TO EACH DEPARTMENT. BUT — ACCORDING TO THEIR MANDATE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS OUR DIVERSITY TALENT POOL THAT WE WHICH
BASICALLY IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THE PSC WORKS WITH THAT ARE FROM THE BIPOC COMMUNITY OR OTHER AFFILIATIONS AND WE CREATE THE POOL, THE TALENT POOL THAT WE CAN DRAW FROM. WITHIN THAT POOL, THE PSC WORKS WITH THEM ON HOW TO GO THROUGH INTERVIEWS, AND MAKING SURE THAT
THE RESUMES ARE UP TO SNUFF, AND WORKING WITH THEM AND MAKING SURE EVERY BENEFIT IS GIVEN TO THEM SO THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY, ONCE THE OPPORTUNITY IS CREATED, THEY CAN COME INTO THE GOVERNMENT POOL AND REALLY HELP US AND POSSIBLY ACCELERATE US AND BETTER OUR PUBLIC SERVICE. >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY CAN
MOVE LOT REAL AND THEY CAN’T MOVE UP AND THAT’S A PROBLEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU TO THE DEPUTY PREMIER, I MET WITH THE REPORT FROM NEW BRUNSWICK AND THE SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT WAS ISSUED LAST YEAR, AND WILL BE TABLED LATER TODAY IN THE SESSION. THIS REPORT IS BASED ON EVIDENCE
AND FINDINGS OF RACISM IN OUR SISTER PROVINCE JUST NEXT DOOR. THE REPORT CONTAINS 86 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF WORK AND A GUIDE FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW BRUNSWICK TO MOVE FORWARD TO ELIMINATE RACISM IN THAT PROVINCE. IN MY VIEW, THIS IS SHELVED AND BURIED BY THE NEW BRUNSWICK GOVERNMENT.
THIS YEAR IN JUNE, HERE ON P.E.I., YOUR GOVERNMENT ISSUED A FIVE-YEAR ANTI-RACISM PLAN. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER. WILL YOU GUARANTEE THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL FOLLOW THROUGH AND NOT BURY THIS REPORT LIKE NEW BRUNSWICK BURIED THEIRS? >> THE HONOURABLE DEPUTY PREMIER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR
BRINGING THIS ADVOCACY HERE TODAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HIM TABLING THAT REPORT AND SO WE CAN ALL HAVE A LOOK AT THE REPORT. I ASSURE YOU THAT THE ANTI-RACISM OFFICE — THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE, THEY’LL CONTINUE TO DO IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PREMIER IS WELL AWARE THAT WE’RO
ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING IS — MOVES FORWARD HERE IN A STEADY PACE SO WE CAN HAVE DIVERSITY AND EQUALITY ACROSS THIS ISLAND. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY-INVERNESS. >> THE QUESTION ON MANY ISLANDERS’ MINDS SHOULD APPROVE MARITIME ELECTRICAL 37 MILLION RATE INCREASE. WILL ISLANDERS ARE WONDERING IF
THE GOVERNMENT WILL STEP IN AND OVERRULE THIS DECISION LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASES, AND RENTAL INCREASES OF 5 TO 10% WILL NOT HAPPEN, FULL STOP, TO QUOTE HIM. THIS GOVERNMENT CITED THE RISING COST OF LIVING AND HOW ISLANDERS SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO PAY MORE. THAT WAS BEFORE THE PROVINCIAL ELECTION.
THE QUESTION TO THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR ENERGY, ARE Y PREPARED TO DO THE SAME FOR ELECTRICITY COST INCREASES LIKE THE MEMBER DID AND REITERATE FULL STOP FORTIS CASH GAP TO PAY THE COST FOR THEIR NEGLIGENCE FOR POOR NEGLIGENCE OF THE MANAGEMENT LINES. >> I CAN’T BELIEVE ANYBODY CLAPPED FOR THAT.
BECAUSE IT’S RIDICULOUS WE WERE HIT WITH THE HURRICANE WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS EVER TO HIT LAND IN NORTH AMERICAN HISTORY AND THAT THERE WAS A TREE THAT BLEW DOWN THE LINE AND MARITIME ELECTRIC FAULT. IT’S THE MOST LUDICROUS THING. I WILL SAY IT’S NOT THE WORST. THE WORST IS WHEN JUSTIN TRUDEAU
CAME HERE AND CRIED CROCODILE TEARS AT THE TARMAC AT THE CHARLOTTETOWN AIRPORT, AND QUICKLY WENT BACK TO OTTAWA AND FORGOT ABOUT IT. IF THE MEMBER OVER THERE WANTS TO STAND UP FOR ISLANDERS, GO TO TRIEWPPEDZ. >> MAYBE WE’LL GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP FOR ISLANDERS, AND MINISTER DOESN’T
SEEM TOO INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, AND LET’S ASK IT DIFFERENTLY, WILL THE MEMBER FILE FOR THE APPLICATION, AND WILL THE GOVERNMENT STAND UP FOR ISLANDERS SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE UNNECESSARY COSTS FROM THE HURRICANE. >> MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE INTERVENED WITH MARITIME ELECTRIC RATE INCREASES.
AS FAR AS IT GOES, THE COST OF THE CLEANUP FOR FIONA, WHAT YOU ARE CALLING INTO QUESTION IS THE IMPARTIALITY. CAN THE BOARD RULE IMPARTIALLY — IN ORDER, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DIG DOWN TO ENSURE THAT THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE TRUE COST, I HAVE TO INTERVENE.
YOU’RE SAYING SCOTT MACKENZIE, YOU PUT THERE, IS NOT HONOURABLE ENOUGH TO MAKE A GOOD HONEST DECISION ON BEHALF OF ISLANDERS HERE ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND? MADAM SPEAKER, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO SCOTT MACKENZIE YOURSELF. >> MINISTER, LET’S SAY, YOU REPRESENT ISLANDERS. THAT IS WHO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS, AND THE PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND
AND THE COST OF LIVING HERE IN PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT MARITIME ELECTRIC HAS BEEN NEGLIGENT IN ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO COMPLETE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ALONG THEIR LINES FOR SOME TIME. THEY ARE BEHIND THEIR COUNTERPARTS IN NOVA SCOTIA, NEW BRUNSWICK, AND NEWFOUNDLAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE.
NO WONDER 40,000 TREES FELL ON TOP OF THE LINES. SO TO SOLELY BLAME ISLANDERS OR HOMEOWNERS FOR THE DOWNED TREES IS A COPOUT. THEY OUGHT TO HAVE KNOWN IT’S A DISASTER WAITING, AND IT’S UNDER YOUR MINISTER, YOUR WATCH. QUESTION THE MINISTER, EVEN LAST NIGHT IN MY RIDING THE POWER OUT
FOR 2 HOURS, WITH 70 KILOMETRES AN HOUR WINDS. MARITIME ELECTRIC HAS DONE NOTHING TO DEAL WITH VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, AND I WILL TABLE PICTURES OF THE VEGETATION IN MY RIDING, MADAM SPEAKER. WILL YOU DEMAND MARITIME ELECTRIC IMMEDIATELY START VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND IMMEDIATELY BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARDS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES IS I DON’T NEED TO DEMAND IT. I CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION. THAT CAN HAPPEN. AND THAT IS WHY HE WAS A FAILURE IN THE PROVINCE, HE DEMANDED, EVERY TIME HE WENT SOMEWHERE, HE DEMANDED, ZERO RESPECT FROM ISLANDERS, AND YOU FOLLOWED HIM
RIGHT INTO HIS OWN GRAVE, AND I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH MARITIME ELECTRIC, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, AND ANY COST RECOVERY HAS TO GO THROUGH IRAC AND WHAT IT COMES DOWN EITHER THEY PAY AND IT GOES BACK TO THE RATEPAYER AND IT GOES BACK TO THE REPATRIATE PAIR
OR WE PAY AND IT GOES BACK TO THE TAXPAYER OR JUSTIN TRUDEAU COMES THROUGH WITH HIS PROMISE AND HE PAYS. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL WELL AND GOOD TO START BLAMING EVERYBODY ELSE. TYPICAL RESPONSE BY THE PARTICULAR GOVERNMENT. THE REALITY IS IT HAPPENED UNDER YOUR WATCH, MINISTER, AND WE
HAVE SEEN UNDER THE BACKDROP OF THIS GOVERNMENT, THAT THE BILLS AT37 MILLION — HOW LEGITIMATE ARE THE BILLS? PAYING TIME AND A HALF, AND THE POWER LINES FALLEN DOWN, AND ALL TWISTED UP. IF IT HAD BEEN DONE PROACTIVELY LIKE MOST GOVERNMENTS DO, AND I HAVE QUESTIONS MARITIME ELECTRIC
AND THE WAY IT’S CHARGING THE FEES. WILL THE MINISTER SUPPORT A FULL REVIEW OF MARITIME ELECTRIC PERFORMANCE AS A PROVINCIAL UTILITY AND THE VIEW OF WHAT IS THE BEST MODEL, IS THIS THE BEST MODEL MOVING FORWARD LETTING THE MARITIME ELECTRIC TELL THE PROVINCIAL WHAT TO DO. >> WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS
IN YOUR RIDING, YOUR RIDING, YOUR RIDING, AND ALL OVER THE ISLAND, AND STRATEGIC PAPER WE ARE RELEASING, AND PLAN LEGISLATION NEXT YEAR WITH THE NEW MODEL OF ENERGY GOING FORWARD AND ALONG WITH AN ENERGY STRATEGY THAT IS UPDATED AND TAKE US TO THE FUTURE. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND WE
ABSOLUTELY WILL, AND WILL I ASK YOU, WILL YOU FINALLY STEP UP TO ISLANDERS, AND GO TO OTTAWA AND ASK JUSTIN TRUDEAU, AND COME DOWN, AND GREAT TO GET THE PICTURE WITH HIM, AND GREAT WHEN HE CAME AND GOT THE TEARS, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT’S TIME TO PAY THE PIPER.
>> LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MENTAL HEALTH IS A GROWING PROBLEM ON P.E.I. A RECENT POLL FOUNDS THAT MORE THAN HALF OF ATLANTIC CANADIANS DON’T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COVER THE COST OF FAMILY AND COST OF LIVING, AND LEADING TO CHALLENGES, AND ANXIETY, AND
LIFE IS SO EXPENSIVE FOR ISLANDERS UNDER THE GOVERNMENT THEY CAN BARELY HAVE ENDS MEET, AND LITTLE LEFT TO SPEND ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES LIKE COUNSELLING. THE QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HEAR A LIST OF PROGRAMS FROM YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY ISLANDERS
ARE STRUGGLING TO ACCESS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THE PROVINCE. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. IT’S HARD TO ANSWER WITHOUT THE MENTIONING THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE. AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA SOCIETY THAT WE DEAL WITH, TOO.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS THERE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE — THERE ARE A LOT OF DOORS INTO THE SYSTEM, AND THE WALK-IN CLINICS ARE A GREAT WAY TO ACCESS MANY OF THE DOORS AND TALK TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL AND GET GUIDANCE INTO WHAT DOOR THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH.
THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY. >> MADAM SPEAKER, THE PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THE DOORS IS MOST OF THEM ARE LOCKED. ONE ON ONE COUNSELLING IS OFTEN A SERVICE THAT MANY PEOPLE SEEK OUT. A CONSTITUENT OF MINE ATTEMPTED TO ACCESS PUBLICLY FUNDED COUNSELLING AND WAS TOLD THE
WAIT WAS OVER 6 MONTHS. PRIVATE COUNSELLING CAN BE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR MANY ISLANDERS, ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS. EVEN IF COUNSELLING IS COVERED UNDER PRIVATE INSURANCE, IT’S USUALLY LIMITED TO A FEW SESSIONS A YEAR, AND THEY NEED CONTINUITY OF CARE. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH, WILL YOU IMPLEMENT UNIVERSAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE ON
P.E.I. SO ISLANDERS CAN ACCESS THE CARE THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS A CHALLENGE HERE AND THE CREATION OF THE MENTAL
HEALTH CAMPUS IS IMPORTANT TO THE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, AND COMMUNITY FIRST MODEL TO REMOVE THE STIGMA SO THEY ARE NOT STIGMATIZED WHEN THEY NEED MENTAL HEALTH HELP. AND ONE OF THE INVESTMENTS OUR PROVINCE HAS MADE, $200 MILLION TO THE CAMPUS. >> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. IT WOULD BE NICE IF ISLANDER WAS FEEL SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE MONEY. THEY ARE NOT FEELING THAT. WHEN YOU DON’T TREAT AN ILLNESS, IT OFTEN GETS WORSE. LACK OF ACCESS TO PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH CARE CAN LEAD TO MORE SYMPTOMS, AND MAKING MANY TO
RELY ON EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS FOR THE CARE. HOW MANY OF THE ER VISITS COULD BE AVOIDED WITH PROPER PREVENTIVE MEASURES AND SUPPORTS IN PLACE, AND THE ERS ARE OVERCROWD AND WE KNOW UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH IS A DISTRIBUTING FACTOR. WILL YOU OFF LOAD SOME OF THE PRESSURE FELT BY THE ER’S, AND IMPLEMENT UNIVERSAL MENTAL
HEALTH CARE FOR ISLANDERS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. MENTAL HEALTH IS A CHALLENGE IN ANY SOCIETY THESE DAYS AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND. AGAIN WE DO HAVE THE SHORT STAY UNIT THAT WILL BE OPENING UP SOON FOR ACUTE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS, AND HELP OUR ER’S DEALING WITH THOSE SITUATIONS. AGAIN I HAVE TO REFERENCE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AND I ALSO WOULD POINT OUT I KNOW PEOPLE WANT ONE TO ONE COUNSELLING AND IT’S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT I WAS PULLED ASIDE AT THE DINNER THAT WE WERE AT THE OTHER
NIGHT BY SOME OF THE MENTAL TEAM AND ASKED TO MENTION GROUP THERAPY. GROUP THERAPY IS VERY EFFECTIVE, AND THERE IS EXTRA AVAILABILITY TO THE GROUP PROGRAMS. I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE A SOLUTION IN THE SHORT TERM. BUT AGAIN THEY DID MENTION THAT. THEY ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT GROUP THERAPY OPPORTUNITIES ON
P.E.I. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. IT’S CLEAR THAT MORE AND MORE ISNDERS ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY AS COSTS ARE INCREASING EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK. ISLAND WAGES CONTINUE TO BE SOME OF THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY. ONE AREA WHERE PRICES HAVE
SPIKED AND ARE LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE IS IN THE COST OF ELECTCITY. MARITIME ELECTRIC HAS JUST ASKED IRAC TO IMPROVE A RATE INCREASE, THE THIRD THIS YEAR TO COVER THE FIONA RELATED COSTS. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE POWER OUTAGES, DAYS AFTER FIONA, FORTIS, MARITIME ELECTRIC’S PARENT COMPANY, POSTING 79
CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF INCREASED DIVIDENDS, THE WEEK AFTER FIONA. LAST YEAR, THE PREMIER INDICATED THAT THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING TO MARITIME ELECTRIC TO OFF SET RESTORATION COSTS. A QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF FINANCE, ARE HARD WORKING ISLANDERS’ TAX DOLLARS GOING TO BE USED TO BAIL OUT MARITIME ELECTRIC YET AGAIN?
>> THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT ENERGY AND CLIMATE ACTION. >> MADAM SPEAKER. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUR COLLEAGUE JUST ASKED. BASICALLY, WE’VE ASKED THE — THE PREMIER MET WITH THE PRIME MINISTER RIGHT DURING THE CLEANUP TIME. THE PRIME MINISTER COME DOWN HERE. IT WAS ACTUALLY HIM THAT PROMISED TO PAY.
SO THE PRIME MINISTER OFFERED TO PICK UP THE COSTS FOR THE POWER OUTAGE AND CLEANUP MARITIME ELECTRIC. DIDN’T COME THROUGH. IT RESTS WITH THE RATEPAYERS OR RESTS WITH THE TAXPAYERS, AND MARITIME ELECTRIC PUT THE COSTS FORWARD, AND WE HOPE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL COME WITH THE MONEY. IT DOESN’T LOOK GOOD.
THE REGULATORY PROCESS IS LONG AND ONEROUS, AND THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN AND PROVE THAT THEY ARE OWED THE MONEY, THAT THE COSTS WERE THAT HIGH, THAT THEY SAVED MONEY WHERE THEY COULD AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND AT THIS POINT, THE ANSWER IS WE’RE GOING TO LET THE PROCESS RUN OUGHT A
BIT MORE, AND WE’LL SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE’RE NEVER A FAN OF RATE INCREASES. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> HONOURABLE FOR NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MARITIME ELECTRIC APPROVED AND ASKED FOR TWO RATE INCREASE THIS YEAR, AND THIS THIRD REQUEST, IF IT’S GRANTED, WOULD MEAN THAT
ELECTRICITY RATES WOULD BE 12% HIGHER MARCH NEXT YEAR THAN A YEAR AGO. 12%. THE FINANCIAL STRESSES THAT A GROWING NUMBER OF ISLANDERS ARE FEELING ARE CREATING SOME REAL STRESSFUL SITUATIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE, THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT HAS A GUARANTEED RATE OF RETURN OF ALMOST 10%.
THAT’S ALREADY ASKED FOR PUBLIC FUNDS TO BAIL THEM OUT FOR WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. DO YOU THINK THAT HARD WORKING AND STRETCHED ISLANDERS SHOULD BEAR THE COSTS OF THIS SUPER PROFITABLE CORPORATION? >> THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT ENERGY AND CLIMATE ACTION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
NOT THAT I’M ONE THAT DEFENDED MARITIME ELECTRIC. I ASKED, AND DURING THE MEETING BEFORE FIONA, AND DURING FIONA, AND AFTER FIONA, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM IF IT CAME THROUGH FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY WEREN’T NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR IT. IN THEIR CASE, THERE IS A COST
RECOVERY MODEL THAT IS PART OF THE CURRENT LEGISLATION THAT THE HAVE WHICH IS BEING REVIEWED, AND A DOCUMENT OF WHAT WE HEARD RELEASED SHORTLY, AND LEAD US INTO A NEW PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE MODERN IN THE WAY WE APPROACH THINGS. BUT THEY — THEY HAVE A MODEL AS
YOU POINTED OUT, PART IS COST RECOVERY, AND DAMAGES BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES ARE COST. BUT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ASKING US FOR MONEY. BUT THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD TAKE IT TO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. YOUR SUPPLEMENTARY.
>> THEY ARE A COMPANY DOING BUSINESS IN THE PRIVATE SPHERE, AND WHETHER THE TAXPAYERS OR THE RATE PAYERS BAIL THEM OUT. THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES, AND AS A PRIVATE COMPANY, THEY SHOULD BE SHOULDERING THE BURDEN. THEY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY. WITH A MONOPOLY ON ELECTRICITY HERE IN PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND,
ISLANDERS ARE PLACED IN A VERY PRECARIOUS POSITION. SO THE SAME MINISTER, THE MINISTER OF FINANCE, GIVEN THAT LOWER AND STABLE PRICING IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INCENTIVE TO ELECTRIFY, IS GOVERNMENT NOT WORRIED THAT EXORBITANT PRICE INCREASES BY A COMPANY THAT WON’T SHOULDER THEIR OWN COSTS ARE UNDERMINING ITS EFFORTS TO PROMOTE ELECTRIFICATION?
>> THE HONOURABLE MINISTER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. NO COMPANY IN THE WORLD SHOULDERS THE COSTS — THEY TAKE IT OUT OF THE COST OF — >> [INDISCERNIBLE] AND IF THEY DIDN’T HAVE THEM REGULATED THE WAY THEY WOULD, AND IT MAY GO UP 30, 40%, AND TO RECOVER THE COSTS. [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> PRIVATELY OWNED UTILITY. THEY ARE PRIVATELY OWNED UTILITY WE HAVE REGULATED TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ONEROUS PROCESS IN ORDER TO RAISE RATES, AND THERE’S A PUBLIC COMPONENT TO IT. THERE IS A CHANCE TO INTERVENE. ANYBODY CAN INTERVENE. THE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY CAN
INTERVENE, AND MAYBE GO ON THE PAPER, AND ALL HE HAS TO WRITE ON THE PAPER IS JUSTIN TRUDEAU COME TRUE TO YOUR WORD. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> MEMBER FOR CHARLOTTETOWN-BELVEDERE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THROUGH THE PROVINCE, THERE ARE SCHOOL FIELDS AND GYMS THAT OFFER THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE
THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY FOR OUR YOUTH AND CITIZENS. I SAY POTENTIAL BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE ACCESS TO THE FACILITIES OUT OF REGULAR SCHOOL HOURS IS INCONSISTENT AT BEST. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. HOW IS THE COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE SCHOOLS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES CURRENTLY GOVERNED? >> MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AND GREAT QUESTION. HONOURABLE MEMBER, CURRENTLY THEY DO HAVE AN OPERATIONAL POLICY AND PROCEDURE IN PLACE. CERTAINLY EACH SCHOOL — SOME ARE MORE OPEN THAN OTHERS, THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT AND. THAT IS THE REALITY. THIS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE KNOW THAT OUR KIDS — WE NEED
THEM TO BE ACTIVE. WE NEED PLACES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER, AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. AND YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONES COMING HERE. >> Hon. Darlene Compton: HONOURABLE MEMBER CHARLOTTETOWN-BELVEDERE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. WE HEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM COMMUNITY GROUPS AND SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS SAYING ACCESS TO
SAFE QUALITY FACILITIES IS A BARRIER FOR PARTICIPATION AND GROWTH IN THE SPORT ACTIVITIES. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. WHEN WERE THE GUIDELINES LAST REVIEWED, AND HAVE THEY BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE THE PANDEMIC? >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND CERTAINLY WHEN I AM VISITING SCHOOLS ACROSS THE PROVINCE FOR
COMMUNITY GROUPS OR WHAT YOU HAVE, SPORTS TEAMS, ABSOLUTELY, THERE’S AN APPETITE TO USE OUR SCHOOLS IN A MORE ROBUST FASHION. REACHED THE GUIDELINES, AND THE PROCEDURES, I BELIEVE THEY WERE REVIEWED IN 2018. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THAT BOTH ARE UNDER GOING A REVIEW AND I EXPECT TO GET A
REPORT BACK REGARDING THAT REVIEW BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> AND HONOURABLE MEMBER, SECOND SUPPLEMENTARY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TO MAKE NOTE IT DOESN’T SEEM FAIR THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE BEING PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS, AND I HAVE — MY LOST QUESTION IS
WHAT STEPS CAN BE DOAN TO ENSURE BETTER ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITIES, SO THEY CAN BE ENJOYED BY THE PUBLIC. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU, HONOURABLE MEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A GREAT DESIRE TO INCREASE THE USE OF OUR SCHOOLS. TO COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND SPORTS
TEAMS AND THAT. I WAS LISTENING TO THE CBC THIS MORNING, AND THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION WAS SPEAKING EXACTLY ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME FACTORS TO CONSIDER REGARDING CUSTODIAL COVERAGE. YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE AN ENI ENEDUCATION STAFF MEMBER ON SITE WHILE THE FACILITIES ARE BEING USED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
MAINTENANCE AND THE CLEANLINESS AND ALL OF IT. THERE ARE FEE STRUCTURES CURRENTLY IN PLACE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW INSURANCE IS A CONSIDERATION. CERTAINLY COMPETING PRIORITIES, AND ATHLETICS, MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE A LOT OF TEAMS ACROSS THE ISLAND PARTICIPATING IN ATHLETICS. A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED. I APPRECIATE THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER’S QUESTIONS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING THE REPORT AND BEING ABLE TO REPORT BACK WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. ACROSS PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND MORE PARTICULARLY KINGS COUNTY HAVE BEEN ENDURING 3-PLUS YEARS OF DISRUPTIONS FROM UNRELIABLE FERRY SERVICE. THIS HAS PUT UNDUE STRAIN AND
HARDSHIP ON ALMOST EVERY INDUSTRY FROM CONSTRUCTION TO TOURISM. AFTER THE LATEST STOPS AND STARTS, THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THEY HAVE BROUGHT IN AN INTERIM REPLACEMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF MAY. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY ASSURANCES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT FERRY SERVICES AT WOOD ISLANDS WILL RETURN TO NORMAL THIS
UPCOMING SEASON AFTER SEASON AFTER SEASON OF CHAOS AND DISRUPTION? >> THE HONOURABLE MINISTER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND I THANK THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR YOUR QUESTION AND WITHOUT A DOUBT SINCE COMING TO GOVERNMENT, AND SINCE COMING IN AS MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION, THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN.
I HAD A MEETING THIS PAST JUNE WITH THE TRANSPORT MINISTER AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE FEDERAL MINISTER AND MINISTER MacAULAY, AND MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD, BOTH IN THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM, MADAM SPEAKER, AND I DON’T KNOW IF IT HAD MUCH
IMPACT, BUT THE LONG AND THE SHORT, IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER THAT MEETING THAT THE FEDERAL MINISTER AND MINISTER MacAULAY MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ACQUISITION OF THE NORWEGIAN FERRY. THANK YOU, MINISTER. >> — FIRST SUPPLEMENTARY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. NOW, WE’RE SEEING THIS TREND OF LOANERS, REPLACEMENTS, AND
FILLER FERRIES FROM THE FEDZ FES FROM MY HOME DISTRICT MUCH SURREY-MAGDALEN ISLANDS. PLANS SEEM TO BE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEPLOY A VESSEL FROM DIGBY TO ST. JOHN’S, SOMETHING THAT IS CAUSING A BIT OF A RUCKUS THERE, AS WELL. QUESTION TO THE SAME MINISTER. [PLEASE STAND BY]
>> THAT HAS BEEN MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES UNINTERRUPTED SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS OF PEI AND FOR INDUSTRY ON PEI AND ALL OF THE USERS BOTH WAYS OR WHETHER IT’S NOVA SCOTIA, NEW BRUNSWICK OR PEI AS WELL. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. >> SOURIS-ELMIRA. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER ONE’S
SOLUTION TO THIS NEVER-ENDING CYCLE IS TO BUILD MODERN REPLACEMENTS FOR THESE VITAL SERVICES. SUPPOSEDLY THEY ARE REPLACEMENT VESSELS FROM THE PIPELINE SOME FROM BOTH SURREY AND PRINCE EDWARD ISLANDS AND THE FIRST PERCENT IS ON 2026 AND ON 2027 AND NOW 2029 MAYBE AN QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION WHO I KNOW IS A GREAT ADVOCATE OF THESE EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, HOW CAN WE GET ACROSS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE URGENCY OF THESE FERRY SERVICES AND HOW CAN WE SPEED THIS UP SO THAT WE SEE REPLACEMENT BOATS AND ISLAND WATERS AND PERHAPS THIS DECADE. >> MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE SEEM A.
>> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER CERTAINLY YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT THAT’S BEEN AWARDED FOR THE WOOD ISLANDS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SYNTHESIZED IN MY MEETING WITH FEDERAL TRANSPORT MINISTER BACK IN JUNE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE EXPEDITED AT ALL POSSIBLE AND MADAM SPEAKER I WOULD SAY THAT IT
WOULD BE GREAT IF WE DID SEE THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION START TO WORK WITH US AS A GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR VERY CLOSE LIBERAL FRIENDS IN OTTAWA WEATHER IT’S WITH REGARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING OR WHETHER IT’S WITH REGARD TO FERRY SERVICES CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT FROM THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. [ Applause ]
>> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION FINAL QUESTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM SPEAKER FOR SEVERAL WEEKS I’VE BEEN ASKING AND HE’S BEEN FAILING TO ANSWER THEM SO MINISTRY HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THE DECISION’S WITH OPEN DRUG USE AT THE OUTREACH CENTRE WAS ILLEGAL AND THE WOULD BLAME THE OTHERS.
YES OR NO RESPONSE THAT YOU SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL. WAS IT A CRIME? >> THE HONOURABLE DEPUTY PREMIER. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND YES, I BELIEVE WE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION I’VE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW MADAM SPEAKER AND THE CONTROLLED DRUGS AND SUBSTANCE ACT MADAM
SPEAKER, IT WAS REVAMPED IN 2022 MADAM SPEAKER AND THEY’D REFLECT THAT THE PROBLEMATIC SUBSTANCE ABUSE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE OF A HEALTH CONCERN AND A SOCIAL ISSUE NOT A CRIMINAL ISSUE MADAM SPEAKER. SO THAT’S WHAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT THE POLICE ARE WORKING UNDER NOW MADAM SPEAKER WERE NOT
TRYING TO ARREST ADDICTS MADAM SPEAKER. WE ARE TRYING TO HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON THIS ISLAND. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. [ Applause ] >> END OF QUESTION PERIOD. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS BEGINNING WITH THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION EARLIER. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. EARLY LEARNING AND CHILDCARE ARE ESSENTIAL SERVICES FOR ISLANDERS.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS OUR GOVERNMENT HAS INVESTED EXPONENTIALLY IN THE EARLY YEARS SECTOR TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HIGH QUALITY ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE CHILDCARE FOR ISLAND. I HAVE A PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE MANY INVESTMENTS IN EARLY YEARS INCLUDING WAGE INCREASE AS, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION INCENTIVES, TRAINING PROGRAMS, JULIAN DESIGNATED CENTRES, FEE REDUCTIONS, EXPANSION GRANTS,
FAMILY HOMES OTHER GRANTS, TRAINING SUPPORTS, AUTISM SUPPORT, SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE IN NEW PENSION PLAN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. [ Speaking French ] WEE BEEN VERY METHODICAL IN OUR APPROACH TO STRENGTHENING AND GROWING THE SECTOR. IN ORDER TO EXPAND WE KNOW THIS CENTRES WILL NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT INCLUDING CAPITAL
INVESTMENTS AND AFFORDABLE FINANCING. SO WITH YOUR INDULGENCE MADAM SPEAKER TODAY I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THREE NEW INVESTMENTS TO SUPPORT EXPANSION AND GROWTH IN THE EARLIER SECTOR. FIRST WE ARE LAUNCHING AN EARLY LEARNING AND CHILDCARE BUSINESS PLAN GRANT. THIS ONE TIME GRANT CAN BE USED TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS EXPANSION
PLAN FOR A CURRENT EARLIER’S CENTRE OR A BUSINESS PLAN FOR A NEW EARLY YEARS CENTRE FACILITY. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR CHILDCARE OPERATORS AS THEY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. SECOND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FINANCE EEI WE ARE LEARNED — LAUNCHING A PILOT PROGRAM FOR EARLY YEARS CENTRE. THIS 7 MILLION-DOLLAR FUND WILL
OFFER ACCEPTABLE AND AFFORDABLE FINANCING OPTIONS TO CHILDCARE CENTRES AND DEVELOPERS BOTH ESTABLISHED AND PROSPECTIVE LOOKING TO EXPAND UTILITIES AND CREATE OR RENOVATE FACILITIES FOR EARLY YEARS. MADAM SPEAKER, WE KNOW AFFORDABLE FINANCING IS NECESSARY FOR EARLIER SECTORS TO EXPAND. I HAVE VISITED MANY EARLY AND CHILDCARE LEARNING CENTRES AND I
HAVE HEARD FIRSTHAND THAT OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL CLIMATE MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR OPERATORS TO GET FINANCING. THEY WANT TO EXPAND BUT THEY JUST DON’T SEE A PATH FORWARD. THROUGH THIS NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH FINANCE PEI WE ARE PROVIDING THEM WITH THE PATHWAY FORWARD I WANT TO TAKE MY CALLING THE MINISTER OF ECONOMIC
THE LAMENT THAT INNOVATION IN TRADE AND HIS T4 COLLABORATING WITH US ON THIS INITIATIVE. AND MADAM SPEAKER WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THESE INITIATIVES EVEN FURTHER THROUGH A NEW CAPITAL GRANT. THIS GRANT WILL PROVIDE 20 PERCENT OF THE PROJECTS CAUSED UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $200,000 PER PROJECT FOR
APPLICANTS APPROVED FOR THE LOW INTEREST LOAN PILOT PROGRAM. [ Speaking French ] MADAM SPEAKER, WITH THESE THREE INITIATIVES WE ARE INVESTING IN OUR CURRENT OPERATORS WHO WANT TO EXPAND AND FUTURE DEVELOPERS OF QUALITY FACILITY FOR THESE OPERATIONS. WHERE PROVIDING THE NECESSARY FUNDING TO SUPPORT THEM IN DEVELOPING A BUSINESS PLAN, WE
ARE PROVIDING A LOW INTEREST CAPITAL LOAN TO FINANCE THEIR EXPANSION OR NEW BILLS AND PROVIDING A NONREPAYABLE GRANT TO COVER 20 PERCENT OF THEIR PROJECT COST. MADAM SPEAKER THIS IS A PATHWAY FORWARD THAT WE KNOW WILL SUPPORT AND EXPAND OUR EARLIER SECTOR. MAKING IT STRONGER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE FOR YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU. [ Applause ] >> HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM A CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE STATEMENT I WASN’T SURE WHAT THE PREAMBLE WAS DOING IT’S JUST LISTING OFF EVERY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THIS MONEY GOT A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY TO DO THIS TEN YEAR — TEN-DOLLAR AT A DAYCARE THAT’S
WHERE IT CAME FROM AND THAT’S WHAT THEY HEARD FROM IN THAT PREAMBLE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS WAS NOT THIS GOVERNMENT WAS A FEDERAL AND NOW ARE STARTING TO SEE AND THIS IS I MEAN THESE ARE GREAT BUT WHAT IT TELLS ME IS THAT WE ARE IN DESPERATE SHAPE FOR CHILDCARE
SPACES IN OUR PROVINCE. WE ARE. THERE’S HUGE WAITING LACE JUST IN ONLY THREE, WE CAN’T GET THEM. WHY DON’T WE HAVE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA ANNOUNCE MORE PUBLIC SECTORS OUT THERE TODAY. IF THIS DOESN’T WORK AND THIS IS A SPEED OF FOUR THINGS THAT YOU’VE TRIED AND PROMISED IN
THIS ITEM HOUSEWORK TWO YEARS AND THIS WAS COMING ITSELF AND NOW WE STILL GOT HUGE WAIT LISTS AND THIS IS BECOMING A MASSIVE ISSUE IN OUR PROVINCE AS A POPULATION GROWTH. WELL IF THIS, THESE PLANS FIX IT I DON’T KNOW WHY IT WASN’T ABOUT — CAPITAL BUDGET GRANT. LOAN PROGRAM, $7 MILLION, THIS
BETTER WORK, THIS BETTER WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE ARE IN DESPERATE SHAPE. THE FACILITY CAN’T GET STAFF, THEY CAN’T GET PEOPLE LIKE COKES AND PEOPLE TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT PEOPLE AROUND THE SENDER TO PARTICIPATE OR TO GET IN THERE WE DIDN’T TAKE THINK THIS THROUGH WE ARE IN THIS POSITION
I’M JUST SAYING THAT HE IS ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NEEDED AND I’M VERY WORRIED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE PROVINCE FOR THE SAKE OF OUR LITTLE ONES AND FAMILIES THAT NEED THIS DESPERATELY AND LET THE LOAN I WON’T EVEN SAY ANYTHING MORE MY DOWN BUT WE DON’T HAVE THEM.
THANK YOU MINISTER. >> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. I THINK THAT IT’S FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE’S NO BETTER INVESTMENT THAN YOU CAN MAKE THEN IN OUR UPCOMING ENSURING THAT WE HAVE GOT CHILDREN WHO ARE AS HEALTHY AND HAPPY AS THEY
POSSIBLY CAN BE AND IT’S THE ABSOLUTE THAT’S THE NUMBER 1 INDICATOR OF FUTURE SUCCESS. SO IT’S IMPORTANT WE GET THIS RIGHT. AND WITH MENTION, IT’S A GREAT INVESTMENT AND IT’S BEEN IN A SITUATION FOR SO LONG AND SO TRYING TO FIND OUR WAY OUT OF THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE QUITE
CHALLENGING AND AS WAS MENTIONED THERE’S BEEN LOTS OF ANNOUNCEMENT AND TRYING TO GO THROUGH WHICH ONES ARE NEW AND WHICH ONES AREN’T SO THESE ARE NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS SO THAT IS GREAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS KIND OF LIKE I’M GONNA USE IT
AS A VOICE EVEN IF IT’S MUCH MORE THAN THAT BUT DON’T FORGET WHEN YOU DO CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WERE ALSO KEEPING OUR STAFFING NUMBERS UP AND SO THAT’S WHY WHEN I HEAR ANNOUNCEMENTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE GREAT AND WILL SUPPORT CENTRES NO DOUBT I ALSO
SAY THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN STUFF THERE AND I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT WHILE ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE A GROWING POPULATION. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WAITING FOR INFANT CASES, AFTERSCHOOL CARE, IF WE DON’T GET THIS UNDER
CONTROL WE’RE IN TROUBLE AND WE HAVE GROUPS HAVE STEPPED UP AND OFFERED TO HELP AND SO I DON’T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE AND I WILL DO TO HER TAKING PEOPLE UP ON THAT THE WHOLE INFANT SPACES BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN’T GO BACK TO WORK BECAUSE THEY DON’T
GET CHILDCARE AND SO OF COURSE WE’RE MAKING LOTS OF INVESTMENTS INTO EARLY LEARNING AND CHILDCARE BECAUSE WE NEED TO FOR ANYONE FOR THE ISLAND TO SUCCEED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WORK. SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN EARLY LEARNING AND CHILDCARE RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME REALLY WONDERFUL PEOPLE
DOING SOME REALLY WONDERFUL THINGS AND I KNOW THAT THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLING SO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE ARE GOING AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THERE AND SO THESE ANNOUNCEMENT OR A STEP TOWARDS THAT AND JUST REMEMBERING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE CENTRE OF
THIS ARE THE CHILDREN AND ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE LOOKING AFTER THEM. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. [ Applause ] >> MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE ACTION. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. EARLIER THIS YEAR I ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TO DO I DID INTERVIEW FOR TRAFFIC. THE CANADIAN WILDLIFE HEALTH COOPERATIVE CONDUCTED A REVIEW
AND I RECEIVED A DOCUMENT OF THE REPORT THIS MONTH AND I WILL TABLE THAT REPORT HERE TODAY. THE REVIEW LOOKS AT THE HISTORY OF TRACKING AND SNARING ON PEI WITH THIS CONSIDERATION OF ANIMAL WELFARE AND IT LOOKS AT THE HISTORIC ROLLS OF TRAPPING INCLUDING TRAPPING FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
YOU LOOK AT THE USE OF TRAPPING AND WHAT LEFT MANAGEMENT AND IT LOOKED THAT CONFLICT WITH HUMAN ACTIVITY INCLUDING IMPACTS ON CANADIAN ANIMALS. WELL PERSONALLY I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT LEAST SOME DRAFTS IN THE AREA IN THE PROVINCE, DESPERATE CANADIAN WILDLIFE THAT HELP BRING TO LIGHT SOME IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.
PARTICULARLY THE TRAPPINGS COULD HAVE SPIN UP EFFECTS THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR. AND UNCHECKED GROWTH AND BEAVER POPULATIONS COULD AFFECT OUR ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PROBLEMS WITH COYOTES COULD INCREASE IN THE REPORT MAKES THIS CASE IS IN ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC WERE LICENSED CHOPPERS US IS THE WILDLIFE AGENCIES AND
CANADIAN RABIES OUT BREAKS AND RACCOONS AND SKUNKS. COMMERCIAL TRACKING IS A SKILL SET REQUIRED TO DEAL WITH ANIMALS AND HUMAN CONFLICT. IN FACT THE DOCTOR NOTES THAT THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE CHOPPERS SHOULD BE RETAINED IF NOT EXPANDED. HE SUGGEST THAT AN APPRENTICE PROGRAM OR NO BIZ TRAPPERS CAN
EXPERIENCE SO THAT THEY ARE EDUCATED ON THE PRACTICES MADAM SPEAKER EYES START DOWN THIS ROAD LOOKING AT THE ENGINEERING AND INHUMANE TRAPPING PRACTICES LIKE LEG TRAPS THAT THE DOCTOR HAS REPORTED THAT GIVEN US A LOT TO THINK ABOUT MADAM SPEAKER I ASK THAT THE CONTINUED TO WORK
ON THIS FILE OVER THE WINTER AND MEET WITH CRUISE THAT MAY BE AFFECTED BY THE TRACKING BEEN AND I ASKED HIM TO RETURN TO ME WITH OPTIONS AHEAD OF THE TRAPPING SEASON OF 2024 AND MADAM SPEAKER I EXPECT THE EXPERTISE AND CANADIAN WILDLIFE HEALTH COOPERATIVE AND STUFF FROM MY DEPARTMENT.
WELL WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE BUT I HOPE THIS REVIEW CAN HELP ALL SIDES WITH A PLAN AND MADAM SPEAKER I WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING I FINDING A PATH TO DISCONTINUE INHUMANE PRACTICE IS TRAPPINGS IN THE ISLANDS AND I’M ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PATIENCE WHILE I FIND AWAY.
THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. [ Applause ] >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM — >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. AND I THANK THE MINISTER FOR THE STATEMENT TODAY. I’M VERY SHORTLY ABOUT TO PRESENT A PETITION WITH OVER 300 SIGNATURES ON IT FROM ISLANDERS WHO AND IT’S NOT A NEW CONCERN, THESE ISLANDERS HAVE BEEN DEEPLY
CONCERNED AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMAL WELFARE AND ANIMAL CRUELTY AND AS THE MINISTER HAS JUST SAID AND I WAS PLEASED AT THE VERY END OF T STATEMENT THERE THAT HE SAID THIS IS A CALL TO DISCONTINUE INHUMANE TRAPPING HERE ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND THERE’S NO DOUBT OTHER METHODS
THAT ARE USED NOW KILLING SNARES IN PARTICULAR AND WHICH COULD BE EITHER COMPLETELY WE COULD BAN TRAPPING AND SNARING ENTIRELY OR WE COULD MOVE TO SOMETHING LESS INHUMANE. I KNOW THAT THE FOCUS — THE FOLKS WAS SIGNED THE PETITION WANT A COMPLETE BAN ON TRAPPING AND I’M GLAD YOU MAINTAIN AN
OPEN MIND ON THIS MINISTER YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ME WITH A COPY OF THIS REPORT BEFORE YOU ANNOUNCED IT TODAY AND IT’S GOT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. IT’S GOT SOME CONCERNS AROUND CURRENT PRACTICES AND I THINK I’M GLAD THAT YOU’RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. ISLANDERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THIS AND I’M GLAD THAT YOU’VE TAKEN THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. I RESPECT THE PROFESSOR AND HIS THOUGHTS ON THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS MATTER. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. [ Applause ] >> PRESENTING A RECEIVING PETITION HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> I BEGGED EVE TO PRESENT
PETITION FROM A CONCERNED GROUP OF ISLANDERS ON THE GALLERY TODAY I SEE YOU ON THE CORNER THERE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND I MOVE SECONDED BY THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY THAT THE PETITION BE NOW RECEIVED AND BE RELIED ON THE TABLE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED.
>> MADAM SPEAKER THIS PETITION STATES AND BECAUSE THIS IS BEING PROPERLY FORMATTED AND I’LL READ THE PRAYER OF THE PETITION. WHEREAS THE WILDLIFE CONFERENCE — CONSERVATION ASKED DESPITE THE FACT THAT PAI HAS THE COUNTRIES HIGHEST POPULATION DENSITY THIS PRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO THE PUBLIC WHO MAY ACCIDENTALLY —
>> THE TRESPASS ON PRIVATE LAND BE REASONABLY BELIEVE THEY HAVE PERMISSION OF THE OCCUPIER OR THE PERSON AUTHORIZED BY THE OCCUPIER PLACING THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON THE LAND OWNER. AND PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS FACE AT $250 FINE FOR HIS NAP OR A SNARE OR TRAPS FOR TAMPERING WITH SNARES AND TRAPS ON THEIR
OWN PROPERTY. , THERE’S CURRENTLY NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIGNAGE OR OTHER MARKERS OF WHERE TRAPS AND SNARES ARE PLACED PRESENTING A CLEAR DANGER TO THE PUBLIC AND THEIR HOUSE. , TRAPS AND SNARES FALLS INTO NONTARGET ANIMALS INCLUDING PENS AND WILDLIFE THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED A REPORT TO THE MEDIA ALTHOUGHzdNNyb! ISW
EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE REPORTED IN THE INCIDENT. >> ONLY 0.0.4 PERCENT OF RESIDENTS OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND ENGAGE IN TRAPPING AND SNARING ACTIVITIES. SOME REGULATION SUPPORTS A VASTLY DISPROPORTIONATE BORDEN ON THE 19 APPOINTMENT 5 PERCENT OF THE PUBLIC WHO DO NOT ENGAGE IN THESE ACTIVITIES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES THEIR PETS AND THEIR
CHILDREN AND THEIR PROPERTIES THAT LIVE IN DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THESE CLOSE TO TRAPS AND SIX. AND COYOTE POPULATIONS ARE LIMITED. THEY ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO TRAPPING AND SNARING PRACTICES AND THEY WANT TO LIVE TO BE CONCERNED NOT EXTERMINATED. THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN GATHERED ON PREVIOUS ONLINE PETITIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
AND THERE IS NO ECONOMIC VALUE IN TRAPPING AND SNARING. MADAM SPEAKER THERE ARE 207 — 297 SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION ALTHOUGH I WAS HANDED A FISCAL JUST BEFORE I CAME IN SO I KNOW IT’S ALL OVER 300 AND MADAM SPEAKER THE PETITION ENCOURAGES THE GOVERNMENTAL PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND TO PROHIBIT TRAPPING AND
SNARING ON NEW ORLEANS IN THE PROVINCE AND DEVELOP PUBLIC EDUCATION ON METHODS FOR WILDLIFE. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. [ Applause ] >> TAPING OF DOCUMENTS. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FIRM NEW HAMPSHIRE — NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> SORI THINK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER I BEG BELIEVE I
LEAVE WITH THE HOUSE I BEG LEAVE TO TABLE A LARGE NUMBER OF OTHER SIGNATURES FROM PREVIOUS PETITIONS WHICH WERE NOT FORMATTED IN A MATTER THAT ALLOWED ME TO READ THE PRAYER IN THE HOUSE HERE AND I MOVE SECONDED BY THE LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY THAT THE SAID DOCUMENTS BE NOT RECEIVED AND BE
LAID ON THE TABLE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT. >> THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER ON A RELATED ISSUE, GO BY MEANS OF THE HOUSE I BEG THE TWO TABLE THREE LETTERS. ONE FROM THE DEEMED COUNSEL AT THE ATLANTIC VETERINARY COLLEGE. ONE FROM THE MISSIONARY AND
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND ONE FROM THE NATIONAL OFFICE OF THE CANADIAN WILDLIFE HEALTH COOPERATIVE ON THE CONCERNS REGARDING BLUE TRAPS AND THEIR INHUMANE USE AND I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT IN THE DOCTOR’S REPORT THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING A SECOND AGO THERE WAS A SENTENCE IN THERE WHERE HE
QUITE CATEGORICALLY SUGGEST THAT WE SHOULD NOT — THAT WE SHOULD BAN BLUE TRAPS ENTIRELY AND I WILL SECONDED BY THE LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY THAT THE SAID DOCUMENT BEING NOW RECEIVED AND BELIED ON THE TABLE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OFHE POSITION.
>> I BEG THE TWO TABLE WITH PERMISSION AN E-MAIL FROM THE FATHER WHOSE SUN HAS A TOMB OR AT THEINISTER OF HEALTH SUGGEST THAT THEY HELPOVER THE USE AND I MOVE SECONDED BY CHARLOTTETN-WEST ROYALTY THA E SAID DOCUMENTS DO NOW BE RECEIVED ONLNE ON THE TLE? >> SHALL IT CARRY? >>ARRI.
>> TO HONOABLEMEN THEREFOR CHARLOTTETOWN-VICTORIA PARK. >> — CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK Y AND’M SEAKER, I’M GONABLE A REPT FROM 2022 OUTLINIHE REMMENDAONS A LA OF THE VERNMENT OF NEW BRUNSWK IN THEFIRST ROMMEATION EDUCATE SENIOR LEADERS AND ECTED OFFICIS T MEANG. SOGREAT THERE. I MOVEECOND B THE LEADER OF
E PITION TH THE S DOCUMENT BNG NOW RECEIVE A BELIEDON T TABLE. > SHALL IT ARRY? >>ARRI. >> LEAD OF THE POSION. >> I BIEVE THAT THEEPORT IN 20,2,023AGE 20 DETAILING T 80 HOUSES SECONDED BY CHARTTETOWN-WEST RYALT THAT ITOW BEECEIVEDN THE TABE. >>HALLIT CAR? >> CARRIED. >> MBER FROM CHARLOETOWN-ST RALTY.
>> BE TO LEAVE T TABLE A LETTER FROM THE ATLANTIC THAT’S R GUP TT WAS JUST DRAFTED IS MORNINGND IS A LETTER TO ALL FOUR ATLANTIC FROM YEARS OM NOVEMBER 28, 2023 OUTLINING THE ISSUES FCING BLACKND MARGINIZED COMMUNITIES AND I MOVE SECONDED BY THE LDERFTHE OOSITION THAT THE SAID DOCUMENT BEING
RECEIVED AND BELIED ON THE TABLE. >>HALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY-INVERNESS >> MADAM SPEAK I LEAVE THIS HOUSE I BEG LEAVE THE THREE HOURS IN O’LEARY-INVERNESS FROM ROUTE 14 MILTON ROAD AND SHAR RODE IN THE FALL OF 2023 AND A MOVE SECONDED BY THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION THAT THE SAID DOCUMENT BEING NOW RECEIVED AND BELIED ON THE TABLE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? SPEE UNCURED SPEE ON THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT ENERGY AND CLIMATE ACTION. >> I BEGGING THE TABLE THE REVEAL FOR TRAPPING AND PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND I MOVE SECONDED BY THE MINISTER OF THE SAID DOCUMENTS.
>> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> REPORTS BY COMMITTEE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM RUSTICO-EMERALD. >> MADAM SPEAKER’S SHARE OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH I BEG LEAVE TO INTRODUCE THE REPORT OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY IT ACTIVITIES AND IT WILL SECONDED BY THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM SOURIS-ELMIRA THAT THE SAME
BEING OUT OF AND BEEN IDENTITY WILL. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> PURSUANT TO THE LAGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY IT WILL BE WHOOPING A MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE REPORT TOMORROW IN NOVEMBER 29, 2023. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM O’LEARY-INVERNESS. >> MADAM SPEAKER A CHAIR OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY I BEG LEAVE TO INTRODUCE THE REPORT OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMITTEE ACTIVITIES WITH THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM NEW HAVEN-ROCKY POINT THAT THE SAME BE NOW RECEIVED AND DO ON THE TABLE. >> SHALL IT CARRY HIM A SPAN CARRY SPIN PURSUANT TO 110 REP BRACKET FIVE OF THE RULES OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND IT WILL BE WEAVING A MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF A REPORT TOMORROW WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 29th, 2023. >> INTRODUCTION OF GOVERNMENT BILLS. GOVERNMENT MOTIONS, THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FISHERIES. >> MADAM SPEAKER I MOVE SECONDED BY THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FINANCE THAT THE FIRST ORDER OF
THE DAY BE NOW RED. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> ORDER NUMBER 1 CONSIDERATION THAT THE CAPITALS [ Inaudible ] >> HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FISHERIES. >> MADAM SPEAKER I MOVE SECONDED BY THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FINANCE THAT THIS HOUSE TO KNOW RESOLVE THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE TO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THE GRANT OF CAPITALS APPLIED TO HIS MAJESTY. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> HONOURABLE DEPUTY SPEAKER PLEASE CHECK THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE. >> THE HOUSE IS NOW A COMMITTEE OF THE LOUSE TO CONSIDER THE GRANTS CAPITALS APPLIED TO HIS MAJESTY. >> MINISTER WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MAKE A MOTION TO BRING A STRANGER TO THE FLOOR? >> YES, PLEASE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> WELCOME BACK. COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN IN YOUR TITLE? >> JORDAN MCNALLY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU. >> HONOURABLE MEMBERS WHO WE ARE ON THE PEI HOUSING CORPORATION
ON PAGE 23 OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND OUR — OPENED THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS. CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. AND JUST WE WERE CHATTING LAST WEEK WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT BRINGING BACK THE OF ANY BRING BACK OR TAKE BACK? >> I LIKE THE NEW TERMINOLOGY. THEY BRING BACK.
>> YEAH, WE DO HAVE TAKEBACK HERE. ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS HERE DO I READ THROUGH THEM OR DO I JUST TABLE THEM? >> YOU CAN TABLE THEM. >> OKAY. AND ALSO PLANNED CAPITAL REPAIRS FOR 2023, 2024, 24, 2025. >> THANK YOU CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY.
>> SORRY IS IT ALRIGHT IF WE DO ASK TO SEE ANYTHING ON THOSE OR ASK QUESTIONS ON THOSE TAKEBACK SCHEMA. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER WE PASSED THAT SECTION ON CAPITAL BUDGETS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE LEGISLATURE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS? >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROLTY.
>> SO THAT TAKEBACK I HAVEN’T SEEN ONE OF THE HOUSING THAT SECTIONS, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THE TAKEBACKS IN THERE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE INVESTMENTS, SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT DOCUMENTS FROM LAST YEAR? DID YOU FIND THAT DOCUMENT? >> I DID LOOK FOR THAT YOU DID MENTION IT.
YOU MENTIONED $3 MILLION IN LAST YEAR’S DOCUMENTS. AND THE EQUIVALENT THIS YEAR IN YOUR TABLE DOCUMENT IS ON PAGE 3 UNDER COMMITTEE OUTREACH CENTRE DEVELOPMENT. $6.3 MILLION AND $3 MILLION LAST YEAR WHAT WAS ALLOCATED TO MOVE OR REPLACE THE EXISTING COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE AND THAT AMOUNTS IN THE CURRENT
HANDOUT AND IT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE PPOSE AND SO. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> SO THE COMMUNITY OF OUTREACH CENTRE, BECAUSE IN LAST YEAR OF LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT, I FIND IT. SO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH COST $3 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. SO THERE WAS $200,000.22, 23. I NEVER GOT ANYBODY NOBODY EVER
TOLD ME WHAT THE $200,000 WAS FOR. WHAT WAS THE $200,000 FOR? >> MEMBER YOU’RE ASKING ABOUT LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET GIVEN. >> YES, I AM. >> MINISTER ARE YOU WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE QUESTION GIVEN. >> I DON’T FEEL LIKE I COULD ENTERTAIN THAT QUESTION. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY.
>> I HAVE NO, THESE ARE THE SAME QUESTIONS I ASKED LAST YEAR THE CAPITAL BUDGET NOBODY TOLD ME WHAT THE MONEY WAS FOR A NOBODY TOLD ME WHAT IT IS FOR NOW SO WE WON’T WILL JUST SAY THAT YOU WILL NOT ANSWER WHAT THE 200,000-DOLLAR INVESTMENT AND 22, 23 WAS FOR.
I DIDN’T SEE. WAS THAT DEFENCE? >> IV PREPARED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CAPITAL BUDGET OF THIS YEAR. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> AND 23 IN THAT DOCUMENT, IN 23, 24. SO WE ARE IN 23, 24 RIGHT NOW. IT SAYS THAT THERE’S A 500,000-DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN
THAT FACILITY AND IN THAT COMPLEX THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE THAT COMPLEX, WHAT IS THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR FOR? >> YEAH, THE 500,000 IS ALLOCATED LAST YEAR ON DESIGN AND PLANNING FOR A REPLACEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE. IN COMPARISON THE FORECAST FOR THAT IS ONLY 30,000 THIS YEAR
AND AS YOU KNOW I THINK THAT TEMPORARY RELOCATION OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE IS ONGOING AND SO I BELIEVE THE PLANS FOR A MORE PERMANENT FACILITY OR STILL MONEY IS STILL ALLOCATED FOR THAT AND BUT THERE WAS A DELAY IN TERMS OF WHAT DESIGNER PLANNING GOES INTO THAT >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY.
>> PLEASE TELL ME WE DID NOT ALLOCATE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON A PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR A MOVEMENT FOR SOMETHING, THAT’S NOT HOW MUCH A PROVINCE ADVOCATED FOR THE DESIGN AND PLAN OF THE FACILITIES. >> I DON’T KNOW THE TERMS OF THE DETAILS TO BREAKDOWN THE 500,000.
I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE ALLOCATION LAST YEAR WAS TO PLAN A REPLACEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS ALLOCATED. THERE’S ANOTHER ALLOCATION THIS YEAR FOR THAT SAME PURPOSE. I KNOW THE FOCUS OF OF THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW IS ON TEMPORARY LOCATION BUT THERE IS
MONEY ALLOCATED FOR OPPORTUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE DEVELOPED. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. ONE MORE. >> THAT PLAN MUST HAVE CHANGED WITH THAT I ASKED BEFORE IT WAS AN INVESTMENT INTO THAT FACILITY YEARS AGO. NOW WE’RE GETTING PLANNING 500,000-DOLLAR PLAN WHICH I DON’T HAVE A CLUE HOW THAT COULD EVEN HAPPEN NOW OR ADDING
ANOTHER $30,000 FOR PLANNING AND DESIGN. IS THE 30,000 THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS THAT PART OF THE $6.3 MILLION THAT WE HAVE INVESTED? >> CORRECT. YES. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. FROM THAT TO THE ONE, SO I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS WORK
WAS BEING DONE ON THE TEMPORARY PLAN SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PARK STREET AS A TEMPORARY PLAN OR WAS THERE ANOTHER OR WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TEMPORARY. >> IT’S A TEMPORARY RELOCATION. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> IS THAT NOT A PERMANENT PLAN?
>> THAT IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AND IS IN THE BUDGET IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT SITE IS I THINK IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM IT CHOSE TO DO A TEMPORARY LOCATION TO LOOK AT WHAT THE SITE WOULD LOOK FOR A MORE PERMANENT COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE BUT AT THIS POINT THE
BUDGET HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR LOOKING AT THAT PERMANENT LOCATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH A TEMPORARY LOCATION. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. >> SO IT’S TEMPORARY LOOKING AT MAKING IT PERNENT? >> THAT’S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YES. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
I GUESS GIVEN THAT THE WORK WAS THAT HIS SIGNING PLANNING STAGES OR BEGINNINGS LAST YEAR, I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE GIVEN WE DON’T HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PACK, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS EVEN FEASIBLE PROJECT? I DON’T UNDERSTAND.
>> I MEAN I THINK AGAIN THIS IS THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY IN CASE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT COMES BACK AND WE ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT RED. WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY TOWARD THE PLAN. THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS IN THE
AIR THAT THEY ALL NOW KNOW BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE’VE HAD BUT OUR JOB IS TO ENSURE THAT THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THEM TO USE. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT IN MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT IF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT COMES BACK AND IT’S
NOT A FEASIBLE THING TO DO, IS THAT MONEY FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET? >> NO. THE DEPARTMENTS TELLING ME WITH THE PLANS TO ALLOCATE THE BUDGET FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THIS SO THAT WORK AND CONTINUE ON IT AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT RENDERS THE PROJECT NOT
GLOBAL, I’M SURE THE DEPARTMENT WOULD GET OTHER IDEAS IN AND THE MONEY WOULD STILL BE THERE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN UPDATE WITH A TREASURE BOARD ON THE PLAN AND SEEK RENEWAL TO USE THIS FUNDING FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY ONE MORE. >> SURE. THANK YOU.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME SO ON YOUR LIST OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE OVERTIME I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION YOU HAVE, BUT I AM CURIOUS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IS IT, CHARLIE DOES OUR PLAN INVOLVE TEMPORARY STRUCTURES OR DOES OUR PLAN INVOLVE BUILDINGS? >> STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.
>> I THINK THAT A LOT OF THAT IS LIKELY ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND HAVING THE GEOTECHNICAL TIME TO PROCEED IF WE CAN BECAUSE IT’S AN OLD SIGHT RIGHT SO THERE COULD BE RECLAMATION THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED LIKELY IF YOU’RE GONNA PUT PERMANENT STRUCTURES IN SO I THINK THAT’S PART OF THE TEMPORARY PEACE.
YOU CAN LOCATE TEMPORARY STRUCTURES ON A SITE EVEN IF THE ENVIRONMENTAL THESE THE GEOTECHNICAL DOESN’T COME BACK. >> CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP ON THE CHAIR? >> I SAID IT WAS YOUR LAST ENTRY TO BE AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE. >> ALL RIGHT YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME. >> OKAY CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I’M JUST CONFUSED AND WHICH IS NOT HARD TO DO. BUT ON JANUARY 19th 2023, I SUBMITTED THE WRITTEN QUESTION AND THE ANSWER CAME BACK DURING THE DEBATE OF THE CAPITAL THIS WAS LAST YEAR IN JANUARY, IT WAS NOTED THAT $3 MILLION HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR RENOVATIONS TO THE
COMMUNITY AND THE MISSOURI FINANCE WOULD RETURNING WITH THE DETAILS ON THE PLAN OF THE PROJECTILE INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED PLEASE PROVIDE THE PROJECT PLAN PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVE AND THE OUTLINE AND MILESTONES OF THE CAPITAL SPENDING OF THE MILLION DOLLARS IN IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET I LOCATED FOR THE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH CENTRE AND THEN I GET THE RESPONSE THAT FUNDING TO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE FOR 23, ANY FAR WAS $500,000 WHICH WE JUST MENTIONED AND THAT WAS PLANNING. OKAY THEN IN 24, ANY FIVE, IT SAYS $2 MILLION. WHICH DOESN’T MATCH. IT’S IS 2 MILLION RIGHT HERE IN THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT.
AND 25, 26 THERE’S ANOTHER 500,000. SO THAT’S A $3 MILLION. BUT I DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS THE THREE YEAR CAPITAL FUNDING ALLOCATED IS EARMARKED WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE IT’S EARLY IN THE PLANNING STAGES THIS WAS IN JANUARY SO WE’RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS
TO CREATE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. SO I READ THAT AND DID YOU EVER RECEIVE THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, STRATEGIES AND TACTICS TO COME TO YOUR DECISION OF THE SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT? >> NO I DON’T BELIEVE WE DID. I’M NOT SURE. THAT’S NOT SOMETHING I COULD ANSWER. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY.
>> AND I APPRECIATE YOUR REFERENCING DOCUMENTS I DON’T BELIEVE THAT TABLE HAS OR THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY EITHER HAS SO I DON’T, I THINK YOU’RE EXPLAINING IT WELL BUT. >> PROBABLY NOT. MR MEMBER AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE BUT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE PLANNING AND DESIGN AND THEN I DON’T UNDERSTAND IT
AND HERE IT’S TALKING ABOUT AND I CAN TABLE THIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE AFTERWARDS IN THE YEAR 24 COMPANY FIVE THERE’S A 2 MILLION-DOLLAR INVESTMENT. WHAT DOES THAT INVESTMENT FOR IN 24, ANY FIVE? >> I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN LAST YEARS INFORMATION IN MY UNDERSTANDING
FROM READING THOSE DOCUMENTS WAS THAT $3 MILLION TOTAL 502,000,500 WAS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND REPLACEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE. I CAN’T SPEAK TO WHERE THAT PLAN WAS IN TERMS OF WHERE IT’S KNOWN TO BE RELOCATED THROUGH OR REPLACED BY BUT IN COMPARISON, IT’S SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE FOR THE SAME
PURPOSE AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CURRENT COMMITTEE OUTREACH CENTRE ON A CURRENT BASIS. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> SO I CAN ONLY DRAW CONCLUSIONS WHEN YOU DO REPLACE IT IS THIS GOVERNMENT BANKING MONEY TO SPEND LATER ON, DO YOU HAVE TWO I THE SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS, BECAUSE THAT’S A LOT OF MONEY.
AND WE’RE TALKING ABOUT 30 UNITS FOR SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS THAT MAKES NO SENSE. THIS PLAN MAKES NO SENSE. GO AHEAD. >> YEAH, I CAN CLARIFY. THERE’S TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS IN YOUR HAND OUT. THAT MIGHT BE WHERE THE CONFUSION IS. THIRTY UNITS FOR WHAT I’LL CALL
THE CLUB AND THAT’S IN THE 50 OR IF OUR PLAN AND THAT’S A SEPARATE ON LOCATION THEN THE SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS. IT IS EARMARKED FOR A COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE AND DEVELOPMENT ON CLUB SO, YEAH,. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> I DON’T KNOW. I’M GONNA CALL THIS GOVERNMENT OUT ON THAT ONE.
BECAUSE SO WHEN YOU MOVE SAY THIS MOVES TO PARK STREET YOU’RE GOING TO CALL IT TOOK COMMITTEE OUTREACH CENTRE CURLING CLUB DEVELOPMENT? YOU’RE GONNA KELOWNA CURLING CLUB DEVELOPED AND? >> KNOW YOU GOT A SLOW DOWN HERE. >> I DON’T HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. >> YOU GUYS OR THE ONE TALKING
AND OKAY WILL DO IT AGAIN. >> ALL REFERENCE SPECIFIC TO EACH NUMBERS JUST SO ON PAGE 2 UNDER THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN ON THE LAST BULLET FOR THE CURLING CLUB DEVELOPMENT IN CHARLOTTETOWN FOR 30 UNITS, THAT PROJECT IS SLATED FOR 30 SOCIAL HOUSING UNITS. ONCE THE CURRENT OUTREACH CENTRE IS MOVED FROM THAT LOCATION.
SO THAT IS A 30 UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT THE CURLING CLUB WHERE IT CURRENTLY STANDS. ON PAGE 3 UNDER EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SUPPORTS, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE DEVELOPMENT IS THE FUNDING EARMARKED FOR A PERMANENT RELOCATION OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTRE. WHEN THIS PLAN WAS BORN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LOCATION AND
IT INVOLVED PUTTING UP PERMANENT STRUCTURES AND DEMOLITION OF THE CURRENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE AND THAT PLAN IS ONGOING BUT THAT IS WHAT THAT $6.3 MILLION IS FOR THE SEPARATE PROJECTS. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> SO THE CURLING CLUB DEVELOPMENT TO 30 UNITS IS THAT 6.32? >> NO. >> HOW MUCH IS THAT?
>> HONOURABLE MEMBER. CAN YOU, PLEASE. SO THE STRANGER EXPLAINED THAT QUITE WELL THE TWO SEPARATE ONES BUT WE’RE JUST GONNA KEEP JUMPING BACK-AND-FORTH THAT ESPECIALLY STRAIGHT ON THE STRANGER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE JURY AND HE CAN EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENT FUNDING. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
MAYBE I’LL ASK ANOTHER QUESTION THEN. SO BE ON THE SITE THOSE EXISTING CURLING CLUB IS THAT, IS THIS CURRENT STRUCTURE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED CHAIR I’D LIKE TO ASK IF THE MINISTER IS THE CURRENT SITE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED IN AND SOMETHING ELSE BUILT? >> I WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT’S THE CASE, YES.
>> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> I’LL ASK THE CURLING CLUB DEVELOPED MEANT IN CHARLOTTETOWN THE 30 UNITS CHAIR HOW MUCH IS ALLOCATED FOR THAT? >> THAT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE BUDGET. >> SO IF THERE’S 5 MILLION TOTAL AND 500,000 IN 27, 20 AND 4.5 IN 2029. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY ONE MORE.
>> SO $500,000 WOULD BE THE PLANNING. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER THE STRANGER HAS MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THE $500,000 WASN’T SOLELY FOR PLANNG WHICH YOU KEEP STATING SO I DON’T UNDERSTAND OR THE CONFUSION IS. >> I’M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE CURLING CLUB DEVELOPMENT YESTERDAY WAS $6.3 MILLION.
BUT NOW I JUST OF THE CURLING CLUB AND COMMIT THE AREA IS SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS I HAVE AOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT. WAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT WHAT’S HAPPENING WAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ACT OVER IT UNDER THE SIX BY 3 MILLION IN ANY WAY?
>> I DON’T THINK THAT’S THIS CURRENT BUDGET. >> IT WOULDN’T BE WITHIN THIS BUDGET THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT’S ALREADY BEEN. >> HONOURABLE MEMBER. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING, SO THE PLANS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN FOR THE COMMITTEE AT WHICH CENTRE OF WONDERING IF YOU
CAN BREAK DOWN THAT SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS OVER 24, 25 AT 25, 2060 OF THE PROJECT LIKE WATER TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN THOSE TIME FRAMES? >> I DON’T HAVE THE PRELISTING OF THE PROJECT WITHIN 6.3 I CAN GIVE YOU THE ALLOCATION BY YEAR OF WHAT THAT 6.3 IS.
BUT THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WOULD BE KIND OF PUTTING UP ON THE STRUCTURES ON THAT SIGHT WHERE THE DEVELOPING WILL TAKE PLACE. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. SO THE PLAN IS THEN TO PUT ON PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD JUMP FOR
SURE BUT I’M GONNA MOVE ON FOR RIGHT NOW. ACTUALLY KNOW I’M NOT. I’M FRUSTRATED. BASICALLY, WHAT I’M HEARING AND JORDAN I KNOW YOU’RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS HERE TODAY BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, I JUST, I MEAN THIS IS SIX POINTING MILLION DOLLARS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY WE MAY NOT BE
ABLE TO PUT ANYTHING ON, THERE’S NOT REALLY ANY NEW SO THERE’S REALLY NOTHING ATTACHED I KNOW YOU’RE HOLDING THAT MONEY BUT IT’S REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT WE ARE HERE IT’S BEEN HOW MANY YEARS LATER WE ARE TALKING LIKE TEMPORARY PERMANENT TEMPORARY PERMANENT IS VERY CONFUSING AND IT’S VERY FRUSTRATING.
AND BEING SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA AND UNDERSTANDS THE #nfn FIND IT SHOCKING THAT WE ARE NOT FARTHER ALONG THAT WE DON’T, THERE’S NO, THERE’S REALLY NOTHING HERE THAT SHOWS ME THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE ISSUE. AND THAT IS VERY FRUSTRATING. SO I WILL LEAVE IT FOR NOW.
SO THE SMITH LODGE PHASE 2413 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BEDS, SO I’M WONDERING HOW MANY BEDS ALTOGETHER DO WE DON’T IF YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR — BUT HOW MANY BEDS WILL HAVE ALTOGETHER WANTS THAT IS COMPLETE? >> I BELIEVE THERE IS 13 AT SMITH LODGE NOW AND SORRY I’M JUST LOOKING FOR THAT PROJECT
THERE’S A 13 BEING ADDED ACTUALLY. I’M NOT SURE HOW MANY IS EXISTING IN THE SMITH LODGE NUMBER 13 IS WHAT’S GONNA BE ADDED. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. SO YOU’VE GOT ROUGHLY 18 BEDS RIGHT NOW SO THAT’S 13 IS KIND OF THE GRANT TOTAL OF FOUR UNTIL 27.
>> FOR THAT PROJECT, YES. >> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY WORK BEING DONE THERE, IS THERE ANY WORK BEING DONE THERE WITHIN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR? >> NO. IT WOULD BE THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD START IN 25, 26 AND PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN 26, 27.
>> LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THIS WILL BE MY LAST COMMENT I FIND IT REALLY FUNNY THAT GOVERNMENTS IS THAT THEY ARE PRIORITIZING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND THIS IS THE PROJECT THEY USED AS AN EXAMPLE YET WE’RE NOT GONNA GONNA SEE ANY OF THIS UNTIL 2027. TANK YOU CHAIR. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> YEAH.
AND I’LL JUST JUMP ON TO THAT ONE FOR A SECOND. SO SMITH LODGE, THERE’S 18 BEDS AND USE RIGHT NOW. THEY NEVER GOT OPEN. THERE’S SIX BEDS ON THE THIRD FLOOR, SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING US WHAT THEY’RE DOING ABOUT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT USING THE BEDS
ON THE THIRD FLOOR DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. LET’S JUST GO TAKE A WALK UPSTAIRS AND NOT BE IN USE. WHAT IS BEING DONE TO RENOVATE THAT FACILITY WHICH IS IT’S LIKE SOME OF THE FLOORS ARE LIKE MOUNT EVEREST. I MEAN THAT’S HOW OFF THEY ARE. IT’S A PLACE THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT OWNS THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AND IT FOR GONNA PROVIDE ANYBODY ANY TYPE OF DIGNITY WITH THIS A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS VERSION BECAUSE IT DOESN’T TAKE LONG HALF AN HOUR WILL OPEN UP YOUR EYES DAUGHTER TRENDED TWO. IS THERE ANY RENOVATION MONEY FOR SMITH LODGE?
>> YEAH, UNLESS IT’S IN THEIR CAPITAL REPAIRS WERE SEEING THAT THERE’S NO OTHER SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR THIS. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THAT WOULD JUST BE A CONCERT TO CONSIDER IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING THIS AND ONE OF THE THREE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND MAYBE LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IN THE LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET, IS THE WORK ON SMITH LODGE PHASE TWO ’04 13 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS? $226,000 IN 23, 24. THAT WAS LAST YEAR SO THAT’S IN THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE FIND AND THIS IS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THEIR WORK ON SMITH LODGE PHASE TWO OF 13
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BEDS. CONSTRUCTION TO BE EXPECTED IN 25, 26 AND COMPLETED IN 26, 27. DOES THAT MATCH? >> THE ALLOCATION INTO 26 LAST YEAR WAS NO MONEY FORECAST TO BE SPENT SO THERE IS A DAY IN THAT PROJECT TO NOW BEGIN IN 25. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
AND YOU JUST HIT IT ON THE NOSE. WE TALKED IN CIRCLES IN HERE ABOUT TRANSITION IS THE WAY OUT OF THIS AND WE JUST SAW A DELAY. THERE WAS $226,000 LAST YEAR AND IT DIDN’T EXPECT IT TO HAVE A DELAY. I’M ASKING YOU WHY THERE’S A DELAY IN THIS PROJECT MINISTER OF FINANCE.
>> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> I DON’T KNOW WHEN BUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE HER ON THE FLOOR WITH THE LEGISLATURE, WAS IT DELAYED, HAVE YOU BEEN AWARE OF ANY PURPOSES OF THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT SUPPOSED TO GO WE’VE SEEN THIS VISIBILITY THESE BEDS ARE WELL NEEDED.
WHY IS THIS BEING DELAYED IT DOESN’T MATCH WAS GOING ON. >> I CAN SPEAK GENERALLY. I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY BUT I WAS IN GENERAL WITH THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY WHERE IT IS. WE ARE SEEING TO LASER. IT’S JUST WHAT WE ARE WORKING IN
THESE DAYS AND WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO THINK FORWARD AND GET THINGS DONE. BUT IT IS CHALLENGING I DON’T THINK THAT WOULD COME AS A SURPRISE TO ANYONE IN THIS HOUSE >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> THERE’S 534 PEOPLE ON A REGISTRY WITHOUT HOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE SYSTEM IS OFF THE CHARTS WITH PEOPLE
NEEDING THE SERVICE AND WE DON’T HAVE IT. I’M EXPECTED TO SEE WHAT I FIND THESE TWO DOCUMENTS I EXPECTED TO SEE MAY BE A DELAY TO 24, 25. WHEN YOU READ THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU PRESENTED IT’S A DELAY TO 25, 26. THAT’S NOT A DELAY. THAT’S AN NFL PLAN DOWN THE FIELD.
WHY DID YOU SKIP A WHOLE YEAR WITH YOUR NOTES HERE AND START WORK ON SMITH LODGE STARTING AT LINE FIVE, 26 WHAT’S WRONG WITH NEXT YEAR 24, ANY FIVE? >> AGAIN I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IN WITH A HOUSING MINISTER ON WHICH I CAN DO.
>> OBVIOUSLY WE DO START TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT START TO FINISH AND I KNOW THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS SPECIFICALLY HOUSING CORP. DOES HAVE A LARGE BUDGET ALLOCATED TO AREAS AND DEPENDING ON WHEN THE PROJECT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, IT CAN BE UPDATED AND THERE’S A MECHANISM TO DO THAT.
SO IF THIS PROJECT IS PROGRESS FASTER, THAN THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR THIS AS WELL. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> NOW IS THAT WHAT CAN BE DONE, YOUR GOVERNMENT, YOU CAN DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO. I MEAN WHETHER YOU WANT OR YOU HAVE THE WILL THAT YOU’RE SHOWING ME RIGHT NOW I’LL HAVE
TO DO IS GET MY DOCUMENTS FROM LAST YEAR THAT THERE’S NO WILL TO PUSH THIS FORWARD. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS CAN BE SPED UP? THE PROBLEM WITH THE UN- HOUSE COMMUNITY IS NOT GETTING BETTER IT’S GETTING WORSE. AND SMITH LODGE IS SOMEPLACE THAT IT NEEDS WORK AND
OPERATIONALLY IT DOES NEED WORK AND THAT’S NOT THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BUT IF I DON’T ASK THESE QUESTIONS IN HERE, IT GETS THROWN DOWN THE ROAD. I CAN’T TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THESE BEDS ARE. I CAN’T TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THESE. MINISTER WILL YOU GO BACK AND
TALK TO YOUR DEPARTMENT AND TALK TO THE MINISTER OF HOUSING BECAUSE I HAVEN’T SEEN THE PLANS THAT SAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE DELAYED. I’M SURE THAT THAT PLAN DIDN’T COME ALONG AND SAY, HEY, THIS NEEDS TO BE DELAYED IT NEEDS TO BE PUSHED FORWARD. AND WILL YOU GO BACK AND PUSH
THE MINISTER OF HOUSING TO PUT THIS BACK ON FOR 24, 25 IF THAT’S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND IN THE MEANTIME, LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WITH IN THAT BUILDING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME BUT YET THERE’S NO MONEY ALLOCATED THEY DON’T HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL KITCHEN THEIR COOKING FOR 18 PEOPLE IN THERE.
THEY DON’T HAVE IT. AND THE FLOORS ARE CROOKED. IT’S DIRTY. IT’S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO THIS GOVERNMENT HAS TO SEND SOMEBODY INTO CLEAN THE PLACE. WE NEED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE IN DIGNITY AND MINISTER THIS ISN’T YOUR FAULT. THIS IS JUST THAT YOU WILL SEE
THE SAME THING IF YOU GET THE TOUR THAT I GOT NOT THE WAR THREE WEEKS AGO. IT’S JUST HEARTBREAKING AND WHEN PEOPLE WRING YOU INTO THE ROOMS AND THEY’RE SHOWING YOU THEIR TIRES AND WHERE THEY LIVE THEY WANT TO BE PROUD OF WHERE THEY LIVE AND WE HAVEN’T DONE THAT WITH THIS FACILITY.
SO I’M JUST I’M CONCERNED BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK ON DIGNITY. WE’LL YOU GO BACK MR MINISTER AND PUSH WHOEVER YOU NEED TO PUSH AS A FINANCE MINISTER TO AT LEAST GET SOME REPAIR MONEY FOR THAT FACILITY, SOME CLEANING MONEY FOR THAT FACILITY AND LOOK AT PUTTING THIS BACK TO WHERE IT
SHOULD BE? >> YEAH, LIKE I MEAN BECAUSE GENERAL REPAIRS AND CLEANING THAT WOULD BE MORE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES AND I WOULD SUGGEST WE’RE OPENING OPERATIONAL CONSULTATION SO I THINK THAT’S A GREAT PLACE TO PUSH THAT FOR SURE IN THE NEXT OPERATIONAL BUDGET BUT I GET YOUR POINT AND
I GET THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU’RE PUTTING FORWARD. ON THE CAPITAL SIDE. YOU KNOW WE LOOK TO THE MINISTER OF HOW SAYING IN HIS DEPARTMENT TO PRIORITIZE RIGHT BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND SO THAT HOUSE THAT THEY PUT FORWARD THEY PRIORITIZED THE PROJECT BASED ON WHAT THEY KNOW AND SO THAT IS,
THAT WORKS BUT I WILL NOTE HERE THAT I HAVE A FEW NOTES GOING THROUGH HERE AND WE ALL WANT TO KNOW THAT ONE AS WELL. >> CHARLOTTETOWN-WEST ROYALTY. >> I’M STARTING TO GET EMOTIONAL BUT I’D GO DOWN WITH THE MINISTER AND YOU KNOW THE MINISTER, THE FIRST MINISTER HE
DID A GOOD JOB OF PERCHING TO SING THIS AND I WAS ON HIM ABOUT OPENING THE FACILITY UP AND I’LL NEVER FORGET WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THE 20th FACILITY AND IT’S A GOOD THING NOW IT WAS THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO IT STARTED TO HURT. SO AND THIS IS THE ONLY SECTION
FOR EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. SO I HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THIS ESPECIALLY ONE WE’RE HERE WERE BUYING BUILDINGS AND WERE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS AND I HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS AND IF THE EMERGENCY AND I’M SORRY BUT THEY EMERGENCY PLAN AND THE
SHELTERS IT’S REALLY SHOT IN OUR PROVINCE AND I THINK IT’S GONNA BE WORSE AND THAT’S JUST A COMMENT THAT I HAVE TO GO TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND I’M JUST NOT SEEING IT THERE. SO I HAVE APPRECIATED THAT YOU ARE GOING BACK BUT I’M JUST REALLY WORRIED I COULD ASK MORE
QUESTIONS ON THE LODGE AND DIFFERENT THINGS BUT CAN I MOVE ON IF THAT’S OKAY CHAIR? >> UNLESS THE MINISTER WANTS TO COMMENT BUT THAT WAS JUST RAMBLING. >> I’M GOOD. OVERALL, LIKE YOU KNOW BEING IN THIS HOUSING BUDGET, YOU SEE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. WE WENT FROM 6.4 MILLION A LIST
I THINK $181 MILLION AND TWO THIS YEAR 230 TO YOU MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT INTO PUBLIC HEALTH HOUSING ACROSS THE SECTION OF WHAT THAT IS SO I THINK OVER ALL IN GENERALLY IN THIS GOVERNMENT IS TAKING PUBLIC HOUSING SERIOUS AND MAKING THE INVESTMENTS AND PUTTING THE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE THE
GET THESE PROJECTS OFF THE GROUND. [ PLEASE STAND BY ] >> THAT WOULD BE 25. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. CHAIR, THE MINISTER ANNOUNCED TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THERE WILL BE 10 BEDS. HOW CAN YOU SAY 25 AND YOUR GLOSSY PAMPHLET SAYS 25 THE MINISTER TWO WEEKS AGO —
WELL, FIRST OF ALL HE SAID THE BEDS WOULD BE THERE BEFORE THE SNOW FLIES. I THINK WE’VE ALL SEEN SOME SNOW ALREADY. BEDS AROUND THERE. NO IDEA. WHY ARE YOU GOING TO STICK BY — THERE’S GOING TO BE 25 BEDS THERE. AM I OUT TO LUNCH HERE OR WHAT?
>> WHEN THE PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED, IT WAS BASED ON COSTING FOR 25 BEDS. I KNOW THAT THERE’S PLANNING ONGOING FOR THAT AND THE PLAN CAN CHANGE. OF COURSE, WE SET THESE CAPITAL BUDGETS AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME AND INFORMATION IS UPDATED OVER TIME.
WE ADAPT TO THAT WHERE POSSIBLE, BUT AT A CERTAIN TIME THIS WAS THE BUDGET PUT FORWARD FOR THIS PROJECT AND AS THAT PLAN CHANGES, THE BUDGET IS ALLOCATED FOR THAT PROJECT OF AN EMERGENCY SHELTER. BUT AGAIN, THE MECHANISM WOULD BE — COME BACK TO TREASURY
BOARD, UPDATE THEM ON THE CURRENT PLAN AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> SO THEN IT’S THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING WHO GOT MONEY FOR 25 SHELTER BEDS FROM YOU, FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET, AND THEY WERE THE ONES WHO DECIDED TO SAY WE
ONLY NEED 10 HOUSING BEDS AND HERE WE ARE, THAT THAT GOT SLASHED? ONCE AGAIN, I DID THIS WITH EDUCATION. YOU SLASHED YOUR OWN FUNDS, FINANCE SLASHED YOUR FUNDS. THIS TIME WE FIND OUT THAT HOUSING SLASHES THEIR OWN EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS.
CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG, HOW AM I WRONG ON THAT? >> WELL, YOU ARE WRONG. >> TELL ME. >> SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS AGAIN THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. AGAIN WE’RE IN THIS SPACE WHERE WE HAVE TO PLAN AS A GOVERNMENT
WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO DO AND THAT ALLOCATE FUNDS. THIS IS A GOOD STORY. THIS IS ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR 25 EMERGENCY BEDS IN SUMMERSIDE, RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. THIS IS A GOOD THING. THAT’S A PLAN. IT COULD BE 10 BEDS WE GET NOW,
BUT THIS IS OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS THAT WE’RE ALLOCATING MONEY. >> THE MINISTER DIDN’T SAY THAT. SAID WE’RE GOING TO DO 10 BEDS AND THAT’S ALL HE SAID. HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE THE SNOW FLIES. HE HAD A YEAR TO DO THIS.
WE HAD A YEAR TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND NOW THIS IS BEING CUT 25 DOWN TO 10 IS A CUT. >> IT’S — IT’S NOT A CUT. IT’S ACTUALLY ALLOCATING MORE MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A FIVE-YEAR VISION AS OPPOSED TO
WHEN HE WAS ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS I’M PRETTY SURE THE CONTEXT WAS THE IMMEDIATE SHELTERS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO STAND UP. WHEN WE’RE LOOKING AT A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, WE’RE LOOKING AT A FIVE-YEAR PLAN. SO WE’RE ALLOCATING MONEY FOR 25 BEDS IN THAT SPACE.
>> AND I’VE JUST BEEN — THE COMMUNITY EVERY CENTRE PLAN WAS A CONCISE PLAN THAT YOU’VE COME UP WITH OVER TWO OR THREE YEARS. IT WASN’T. I MEAN, I CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. IT’S A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, BUT NO
WILL TO DO IT. THE MINISTER JUST SAID HE WILL DO 15 TRANSITIONAL BEDS, 10 SHELTER BEDS. IS HE BECAUSE I DON’T SEE IT IN THE BUDGET? HE CHANGED IT FROM $2.4 MILLION, HE ONLY NEEDS 10 BEDS. ARE YOU GUARANTEEING ME THERE WILL BE 25 BEDS BY THE YEAR
2024-25 IN SUMMERSIDE IN THE SHELTER? >> THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE’RE PUTTING FORWARD FOR A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. >> BASED ON WHAT? >> BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING IS LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THE CONSULTATIONS AND MEETING WITH THE GROUPS AND
BASED ON ALL THAT INFORMATION THEY PUT FORWARD A PLAN AND THIS IS WHAT WE’RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY. >> BETWEEN AUGUST — I MEAN, THE MINISTER DID GO DOWN FOR A DRIVE, BUT THAT DRIVE MUST HAVE COST US 15 BEDS IN THE SHELTER IN SUMMERSIDE.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT DATA. MINISTER, THIS IS SERIOUS BECAUSE WE’RE SITTING HERE WAITING FOR 25 EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS BEFORE THE — THE OTHER MINISTER DID IT. HE GAVE US 50 AND I STILL DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST. IT SAID $1.2 MILLION IN YOUR BUDGET.
I DON’T KNOW IF IT CAME ON IN THE BUDGET OR NOT. HOW MUCH IS EACH ONE OF THOSE 10 BEDS ALLOCATED IN HERE? >> WE DON’T HAVE A BREAKDOWN BY BED. WE JUST HAVE THE TOTAL ALLOCATION. >> WHERE IS THE LOCATION? >> I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THAT IS
UNDETERMINED. >> WHO IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER THAT’S GOING TO BE DELIVERING THE SERVICE? >> I THINK THERE IS AN RFP OUT RIGHT NOW. >> IF THERE IS AN RFP OUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE’S NO SUCCESSFUL BIDDERS ON THAT PROGRAM, HOW DO WE PROVIDE THE
SHELTER BEDS, WAS THAT IN THE PLAN? >> YOU’RE ASKING ABOUT THE — THAT’S NOT CAPITAL BUDGETS. >> RIGHT. IS THERE A LAND-USE PURCHASE IN THIS? >> A LAND-USE PURCHASE? >> A LAND-USE PURCHASE IN THIS MONEY, IN THIS FUNDING? >> I’LL CHECK IF I HAVE THAT DETAIL.
I BELIEVE THEY’RE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SUMMERSIDE TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE SITE. >> I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S ENOUGH DETAIL FOR THAT. WHAT WILL THE SHELTERS — WHAT ARE YOU — WHAT’S IN THE PLAN FOR PURCHASING OF THESE SHELTERS? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE?
ARE THEY GOING TO BE BUILT OR ARE THEY PURCHASED, THE ACTUAL UNITS? >> I’D HAVE TO CONFIRM THIS WITH THE MINISTER OF HOUSING, BUT I BELIEVE HE DID PUT FORWARD IN THE HOUSE I BELIEVE THEY WERE LOOKING AT A SIMILAR MODEL WITH SOME MOBILES.
>> SO ARE THEY — IS THAT WHAT YOU APPROVED AS THE MINISTER OF FINANCE OR IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE? WHAT ARE WE GETTING HERE? WE DON’T KNOW WHERE IT’S GOING, WE DON’T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO PROVIDE IT. WE DON’T KNOW BETWEEN THE CITY
OF SUMMERSIDE AND THE GOVERNMENT WHO WAS TALKING. I HAVE NO IDEA. THIS SEEMS LIKE JUST THROW SOME MONEY HERE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. THESE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN BEFORE NOW, BEFORE THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED AND WE’RE TALKING ABOUT RIDICULOUS THINGS
AND IT’S NOT MY FAULT THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. >> BUT THEY CAN’T DO ANYTHING — SORRY, CHAIR. THEY CAN’T MOVE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT A FINANCIAL MANDATE, RIGHT. THEY NEED TO HAVE A FINANCIAL MANDATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE’RE GIVING THEM, IN ORDER TO GO
FORWARD AND PROCURE WHETHER IT BE MOBILES OR WHETHER IT BE A PURCHASE OF LAND AND ALL THESE THINGS, THEY NEED A FINANCIAL MANDATE IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD. SO THAT’S WHERE IT STARTS AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE ALLOCATING TODAY. >> WELL, WAS PARK STREET, WAS
THERE A FINANCIAL MANDATE IN THERE? DID THAT COME THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET. I DON’T KNOW IF IT DID. DID IT? >> THAT’S LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET. >> EXACTLY. WAS IT IN THERE? >> I’M PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THIS YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET. I DON’T KNOW, UNLESS YOU HAVE
INFORMATION ON LAST YEAR’S. >> BASED ON THE DOLLAR VALUE OF WHAT WENT IN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. >> CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THAT? IT WAS $1.2 MILLION IN HERE, BUT I NEVER DID GET A BREAKDOWN. SORRY, $1.2 MILLION FOR THE PARK
STREET TEMPORARY LOCATION FOR THE EMERGENCY SHELTERS? >> MM-HMM. >> The Chair: I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO VOICE YES OR NO SO HANSARD CAN PICK UP WHAT YOUR ANSWER WOULD BE. >> IF 50 UNITS COST $1.2 MILLION AT PARK STREET, 50 UNITS, HOW
ARE 25 — NO 10 NOW GOING TO COST US $2.4 MILLION? >> SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? >> IF 50 UNITS COST US $1.2 MILLION FOR PARK STREET, HOW ARE THESE 25 UNITS AND THEN I MADE A JOKE AS I SAID AND 10 BECAUSE
THAT’S WHAT WE ARE GETTING NOW, SO I’LL PUT THAT IN BRACKETS, HOW DOES THAT COST — IF WE’RE GETTING THE SAME THING, HOW DOES IT COST US $2.4 MILLION FOR 10 UNITS WHEN PARK STREET COST US $1.2 MILLION FOR 50 UNITS? >> I DON’T HAVE THE INFORMATION
ON WHAT THE PARK STREET SHELTER DID COST, SO I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN I COULD PROVIDE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT $2.4 MILLION IS IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WAS FOR MODULAR UNITS VERSUS LAND PURCHASE, IF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THERE.
WE CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK. >> GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I’M JUST NOT — I’VE BEEN ON THIS AND I’M TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB AS A CRITIC AND I’M TRYINO PUSHHE PROVINCE AND IT’S JUST FRUSTRATING. SO I WANTED THOSE TO BE THERE
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COLD RIGHT NOW. I WANTED THEM TO BE THERE AND THAT’S WHAT I WANTED FOR THE MINISTER AND NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT 23, 24 CAPITAL BUDGETS IN 2024-25. THE NEED IS THERE NOW. IF THE MINISTER OF HOUSING HAD
DONE HIS JOB, WE WOULD VE SEEN THAT. PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN SUMMER SIDE IN PRECARIOUS POSITIONS AND I’M JUST FRUSTRATED. NOT YOU, MINISTER OF FINANCE, JUST IN GENERAL THIS IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THIS PROBLEM IS GROWING AND IT’S DESTROYING PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND. IF WE DON’T HAVE THE WILL TO PUT
THAT STUFF IN THE BUDGET, WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE AS A PROVINCE. I’LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW ON THAT SUBJECT. CAN I ASK ABOUT THE 30 UNITS ON BEECH GROVE ROAD WHICH IS A GOOD PROJECT. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION DID IT, HE GOT IT STARTED AND IT WENT THROUGH.
IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO WE STARTED ON THAT. THANK GOD THEY’RE COMING AND THANK GOD WE WON’T HAVE TO SEE THOSE UNITS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR ANOTHER YEAR HOPEFULLY. THEY’RE THERE EVERY YEAR, THE 30 UNITS IN CHARLOTTETOWN. >> IS THAT JUST A COMMENT?
>> NO, I’M ASKING THEM TOO. CAN YOU FIND THAT SECTION ON THOSE UNITS? THAT’S IN MY DISTRICT AND MY COMMUNITY HAS WELL RECEIVED THIS PROJECT AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT. IS THAT A NET-ZERO BUILDING? >> THOSE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT TO NET-ZERO-READY STANDARDS.
THEY WOULD — BASICALLY ALL THE R-VALUE WINDOWS, IT WOULD BE UP TO THOSE STANDARDS. WHAT WOULD GET YOU TO NET ZERO IS ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT’S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT SCOPE.
>> WERE WE SUPPOSED TO — ON ALL NEW BUILDS, WERE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM NET-ZERO BUILT? >> NET-ZERO READY. >> BUT NOT BUILT. IN THIS PROJECT FUNDING WE WILL NOT BE PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON THAT BUILDING? >> CORRECT. THAT’S MY UNDERSTANDING, NO SOLAR PANELS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU KNOW HOW IN THE EDUCATION SECTION OF THE BUDGET THERE IS THE REVITALIZATION BUDGET. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ANYTHING SIMILAR FOR SENIORS HOUSING ON P.E.I.? IS IT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET? I CAN’T RECALL IF I SAW IT OR NOT.
>> THERE IS ANOTHER ALLOCATION UNDER DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STRUCTURE FOR RETROFITTING OF GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE HOUSG. >> SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NORTH RUSICO HAS SOME SENIORS HOUSING, THEY WAN A FRESH COAT OF PAINT AND THE
CARPET REPLACED OR FLOOR REPLACED, THINGS THAT ARE NOT CORE CRITICAL CAPITAL REPAIRS, BUT WOULD ME LIVING LIFE THERE A LOT BETTER. SO YOU’RE SAYING IN THE TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL BUDGET THOSE SORT OF ITEMS COULD BE ADDRESD? OH, SORRY, NO. WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT WAS GREENING AND RETROFITTING THESEOUSING UNIT SOTHING LIKE TH WOULD FALL WITHIN THE CAPITAL REPAIRS ALLOCATION ITHIS DEPTMENT AND THEN IT WOULDE GENAL REPAR AND MAINTENAN I THE PERATING BUDGET >> JUS FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU CONSIDE REVITALIZATON FUND SIMILARO WHAT YOU DO FOR
EDATIONN SOOLS FOR SIOR HOUSINGHERE YOU DRIVEWAYS THE N-URGENTAPIT REPAIRS THA REALLY IMPA THEUALITYF LIFEF RESIDTS? >> IS SETHIN WE CAN ASK ABOUTND CONSIR. >> THE MALC ROAD DEVELOENT IS THAT T BUILNGS? >> S. THERE AREWOBUILDING. ONE’S AN 82NIT AND ONES A 66NIT.
>> INAST AR’ST SAI 104 UNITSETWEEN THEIMEHOSE REALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR, WE’VE GOTTN INTO MORE O A, HEY LET BUILD BIGGER, TIGHTER, LET’SO WITH OUR DENSITY. THIS ISN IMPORTANTROJECT AND ONE THAT I SUPPORT A I NEEDED. BUT I NOTICE THAT FROMHE LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET I SAID
104 UNIT AND ITHIS YEAR’S IT’S THERE AGAIN AND IT SAYS 148 UNITS. WHY ANNCREASE OF ON EIGHT UNITS? >> YEAH, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE REALLY COMES FROM GETTING DEEPER INTO THEPLANNIN SO THIS — THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TENDER RIGHT NOW
SHOULD BE CLOSING SOON. I THINK ONCE THEY DO MORE SITE PLANNING THEY DETERMINE WHAT SIZE BUILDINGS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ON THAT SITE. AND THAT’S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE COMES FROM SO THEY HAVE MORE TO FIND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT’S GOING INTO THOSE BUILDINGS.
>> AND I’M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THAT’S A GOOD NEWS STORY AND THAT’S THE TYPE OF THING I’LL BE LOOKING FOR IN CAPITAL BUDGETS. WE CAN LOOK AT ALLOWING EIGHT MORE UNITS. I’M JUST SAYING WHY DIDN’T WE BUILD 28 MORE UNITS OR COULD WE
HAVE — IS IT STILL LATE TO DO THAT IN THE PLANNING PHASE RIGHT NOW? >> I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AND YOU’RE DOING YOUR SITE PLAN, PARKING PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN WHAT THE SITE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
SO IT’S ONE THING TO SAY KEEP GOING UP AND ADD MORE UNITS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE PARKING WHICH TAKES UP SPACE ON THE SITE. SO I KNOW YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT IN YOUR PLANNING. >> AND THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN WE SAW THE HILLSBOROUGH
PARK TOO AND THIS WAS 60 UNITS. IS THAT THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN? AND NOW WE SEE IT BEING 172 UNITS. IS THAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OR CAN WE GO HIGHER ON DENSITY WITH THAT HILLSBOROUGH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT? >> I KNOW LAST YEAR THEY WERE
AND STILL ARE VERY MUCH IN THE PLANNING PHASE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE DONE SOME WORK IN TERMS OF WHAT’S PLANNED ON THAT SITE IN TERMS OF SOCIAL HOUSING BUILDS AND THAT 172 COMES FROM CONSTRUCTING FOR NOW TWO BUILDINGS, 72-UNIT AND 100-UNIT HOUSING.
SO FAIRLY LARGE BUILDINGS. EARLY ON IN THAT PROJECT, STARTING THE PLAN WOULD BE NEXT YEAR IS PHASE ONE AND TWO OUT OF THREE IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THEIR ROADS, SEWER, ET CETERA, TO BE ABLE TO START BUILDING THOSE SOCIAL HOUSING UNITS.
>> THAT’S GOOD NEWS. SO THAT’S — THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SOCIAL HOUSING UNITS. CORRECT? >> THAT’S CORRECT. >> AND THAT’S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROJECT PLAN? I REMEMBER SEEING PLANS FOR IT. >> I WILL SAY IN THE
HILLSBOROUGH PARK THERE’S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. IT’S A BIGGER AREA AND THAT’S LIKELY A PROJECT THAT WILL TAKE THE SPAN OF YEARS, IT’S A LEGACY PROJECT LIKELY FOR THE GOVERNMENT. BUT IF YOU GOT INTO MIXED USE THERE, YOU COULD BUMP UP THOSE UNITS CONSIDERABLY.
I KNOW THE FIRM BROUGHT IN TO DO THAT DESIGN, THAT’S THEIR NICHE IS TRYING TO FIND THAT DENSITY. SO I SUSPECT YOU’LL SEE THOSE UNITS GO UP. >> GOOD. AND THAT’S IT. SO A 72-UNIT AND 100 SOCIAL UNITS PLACES IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
DOES THAT — WILL THE ROADS AND WILL THAT BE SERVICED THIS YEAR, IN 2024? WILL THAT START TO COME IN, IN 2024? >> YEAH, THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO START QUITE A BIT OF THAT WORK DURING 2024-25. SO IT WOULD START IN 2024, YEAH.
AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE IN PLACE BY 2026 — 2025-26 DEPENDING ON THE SPEED AT WHICH THINGS CAN GET DONE FOR SURE. >> SO THAT MEANS THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT THOSE TWO UNITS — I MEAN, THE UNITS TAKE TWO YEARS
TO BUILD MAYBE. WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT A COMBLOOETION DATE FOR THOSE 172 UNITSPLETION DATE FOR THOSE 172 UNITS AT THIS STAGE? >> BASED ON THE CURRENT PLAN AND OF COURSE LIKE I SAID THEY’RE DEFINITELY IN THE PLANNING PHASE FOR THIS PROJECT AND IT’S
DEFINITELY A PRIORITY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE 72-UNIT IS PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2028, FISCAL YEAR 2028. AND THE 100 UNITS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED I THINK IN FISCAL YEAR 2029, SO JUST IN THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE PLAN. I HOPE WE’RE HERE TALKING ABOUT
THAT AND WE’LL KEEP YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. THOSE ARE TWO INCREDIBLE PROJECTS FOR P.E.I., SO I’M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT. JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SUMMERSIDE LETHURGY UNITS 39. IT WAS IN LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET AND UNDER THE FIVE-YEAR
PLAN AT THE SAME BUDGET LINE IN THIS YEAR’S. WHEN IS THAT — HAS THAT STARTED OR WHAT STAGE ARE WE WITH, WITH THAT PROJECT? >> THAT’S SLATED TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2025-26. YEAH, SO IT IS A PROJECT THAT’S STILL PLANNED FOR 39 UNITS OF
SENIORS HOUSING IN SUMMERSIDE. >> [Indiscernible] — CAPITAL BUDGET FOR PUBLIC HOUSING. WAS THE CAPITAL BUDGET SUCH THINGS AS REPLACING DOOR LOCKS AND FIRE ALARMS? >> THE COST FOR THOSE WOULD PROBABLY PUT THEM IN OPERATING LIKE GENERAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU.
>> THE MONTAGUE DEVELOPMENT, AM I MISSING IT IN THIS YEAR’S CAPITAL — DID I MISS IT? >> NO, THAT — SO THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING RIVER VIEW MANNERS IS STILL IN THE BUDGET. THE PROJECT FOR THE ACTUAL BUILD HAS BEEN DEFERRED. THEY THINK THERE’S OPPORTUNITY
THERE FOR POSSIBLY MORE BUILDINGS AND UNITS ON THAT SITE, SO THEY’RE WORKING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN TO DETERMINE REALLY BASED ON WHAT THE LAND LOOKS LIKE WHETHER THEY COULD ACTUALLY PUT MORE UNITS ON THERE. SO IT HAS BEEN DEFERRED AT THIS POINT AND OTHER PRIORITY
PROJECTS HAVE BEEN KIND OF PUT IN PLACE. >> WELL, DEFERRED, IT WAS IN LAST YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET AND NOW WE’RE REALIZING THAT IT’S BEEN DEFERRED? SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY “DEFERRED”? PURCHASED? IT SAYS — IS THAT THE SAME, NO. MONTAGUE DEVELOPMENTS, 30 UNITS
ON THE SITE OF RIVER VIEW MANNER. THAT’S WHAT IT SAID LAST YEAR. BUT SHOULDN’T THAT BE STILL IN THE NEXT YEAR’S CAPITAL BUDGET? SHOULDN’T THAT BE IN HERE AND THEN — THE WHOLE PROJECT GOT DEFERRED? >> YEAH, THERE’S STILL MONEY IN HERE TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING
BUILDING TO BASICALLY HAVE IT BUILD READY, BUT THEY’RE STILL WORKING ON REALLY INSTEAD OF 30 UNITS, CAN THERE BE MORE UNITS ON THERE AND IT’S STILL VERY MUCH IN THE PLANNING PHASE. SO THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE A PRIORITY TO GET DONE.
SO UNTIL KIND OF A SITE PLAN IS COMPLETE FOR THAT, IT WOULD GO BACK IN. >> WHEN YOU SAY OTHER PROJECTS, YOU COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANYTHING. LIKE, YOU COULD SAY THAT OTHER PROJECTS — I DON’T KNOW WHAT OTHER PROJECTS IN MONTAGUE ARE
ON NOW THAT THAT ONE WAS TAKEN OFF. >> NOT IN MONTAGUESPECIFICALLY. >> HOW DOES IT — SO WHERE DID THE — OUTSIDE OF MONTAGUE — I JUST FIGURED THAT YOU’D KEEP THE DOLLARS IN MONTAGUE, BUT WHERE ARE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE — THAT TOOK PRIORITY OVER
THE RIVER VIEW MANOR 30-UNIT PROJECT? >> HOPEFULLY IN DISTRICT 7. >> I MEAN GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, THIS COMES DOWN TO OVERALL THERE’S — AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE’S A LOT OF BALLS IN THE AIR, RIGHT. SO — >> JUST NOT WRECKING BALLS.
>> TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, DRIVING PROJECTS FORWARD AND KEEPING THEM GOING, THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE HANG UPS OVER IN THIS PLACE AND THEY FEEL WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE PLANNING THEY CAN MAKE THAT
HIGHEST AND BEST USE, THEY MIGHT SPEND THEIR TIME DOING THAT, MEANWHILE PIVOT AND TRY TO GET SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO DONE. SO I THINK THAT’S JUST — OPERATIONALLY THAT’S HOW THESE THINGS WORK. >> I JUST GAVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES
HOW YOU DID THAT ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT AND ADDED HOUSING UNITS. I’M SAYING WHY WAS THAT TAKEN OUT? SHOULDN’T THAT BE IN HERE? IT’S A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND YOU TOOK IT OUT. THIS COULD NOT HAPPEN FOR FIVE MORE YEARS THEORETICALLY, CORRECT?
>> NO, LIKE A — LIKE, THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. IF THERE ARE THINGS NEXT YEAR THAT MAKE THE RIVERSIDE MANOR PROPERTY SOMETHING THAT CAN OPERATIONALLY GO AND THE PLAN IS DONE, YOU CAN MAKE PIFTS, BUT OUR JOB HERE IS TO PRESENT THE
PLAN BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME AND THAT DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL THAT CAN LOOK OUT AND SEE WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE AT THE TIME. >> MINISTER, THAT’S HARD BECAUSE WE DEBATED AND YOU APPROVED WHAT
WAS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET LAST YEAR AND NOW IT’S NOT THERE ANYMORE. SO CRYSTAL BALL ASIDE, IT’S JUST A PEN TO KEEP IT IN THERE AND SAY THIS PROJECT IS A PRIORITY AND IT WAS SCRATCHED. WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANTED TO
GO — ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PUT RIVERVIEW MANOR PROJECT, 270 UNITS. WHY WASN’T THAT GIVEN CONSIDERATION AND THAT PROJECT SCRAPPED FROM YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET? >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS ANSWERED. ARE YOU ASKING AGAIN? >> [Indiscernible]. >> MINISTER, DO YOU WANT TO
RESPOND TO THAT AGAIN? >> I MEAN, I — I SAID IT A FEW TIMES. >> WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED? WAS THAT DEFERRED OR WAS IT THE HOUSING PROJECT THAT WAS DEFERRED? >> YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE — THE WORK TO DEMOLISH THAT
WOULD BEGIN THIS YEAR. I’M NOT SURE TIMING-WISE WHETHER THE COST WILL LAND IN 2023-24 OR 2024-25, BUT I BELIEVE THE TENDER FOR THE DEMOLISHING HAS BEEN CLOSED, SO IT WILL HAVE TO [Indiscernible] — >> SO THAT’S GOING TO START IN 2023-24 AND WHERE ARE WE STUCK
WITH THE DEFERRAL IF THAT’S BEING DONE, WHEN — IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE IN THIS YOU HAVE SOME YEARS THAT ARE PLANNING YEARS AND YOU’RE PLANNING, BUT NOW IT’S OUT. IT’S OUT OF THIS, SO WE HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE OTHER YEAR BEFORE
THIS COMES BACK IN? DO YOU SEE WHAT I’M SAYING? I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT, BUT THAT’S FINE I GUESS. >> THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION’S REQUEST UNDER THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR OUR SUBMISSIONS, WHAT KIND OF CONSIDERATION WERE THOSE GIVEN, MINISTER? >> THE PROCESS IS WE GATHER THAT
INFORMATION AND SEND IT OUT TO DEPARTMENTS TO BASICALLY REVIEW THEM. THEY PUT FORWARD THEIR PRIORITIES FOR US TO REVIEW AND SOMETIMES THOSE REQUESTS ARE ADDRESSED AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN’T BE ACCOMMODATED. >> WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE — IN HERE
SUBMITTED TO THE CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE TREMBLAY PROPERTY? >> I DO KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING IS WORKING WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE THE BEST USE FOR THAT EXISTING PROPERTY AND WHETHER RENOVATIONS NEED TO OCCUR AT THAT PROPERTY TO SOMETHING THAT
THEY OWN AND RENOVATIONS COULD OCCUR IF IT WAS A PRIORITY IN THE CAPITAL REPAIRS BUDGET. AND THEN I KNOW IN TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT THEY KNOW WHAT’S THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT SITE AS WELL BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD UNITS THERE POTENTIALLY.
AGAIN, THAT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN AND THEY’RE WORKING ON A PLAN, BUT IT HASN’T BEEN FORMULATED TO THE POINT THE BUDGET CAN BE ALLOCATED. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT’S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT ALSO SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY’VE ASKED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND THEY — 5 ACRES RIGHT IN CHARLOTTETOWN, CLOSE TO THE WATER AND CLOSE TO THE MED SCHOOL THAT’S GOING UP. I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS,
BUT I CAN’T GET ANY ANSWERS OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING. IF WE DON’T TALK ABOUT IT NOW, WE’RE GOING TO LOSE A WHOLE ANOTHER YEAR. I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER THAT WAS CONCISE AND I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.
ANOTHER ASK THAT WE HAD IN OUR BUDGET SUBMISSION WAS 25 LOW-BARRIER SHELTERS IN MONTAGUE AND AN ADDITIONAL LOW-BARRIER SHELTER IN CHARLOTTETOWN. THAT’S WHAT IT SAYS IN OUR REQUEST. IS THERE ANY — I DIDN’T SEE ANY SHELTER OR SHELTER SUPPORT OR TRANSITIONAL SUPPORT IN THE MONTAGUE AREA.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET — AM I MISSING ANYTHING IN HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING GOING INTO MONTAGUE IN TERMS OF SHELTER? >> THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING ALLOCATED IN THIS BUDGET FOR MONTAGUE SHELTERS. >> IS THERE ANYTHING ALLOCATED
IN TERMS OF SHELTERS, ADDITIONAL SHELTERS, IN CHARLOTTETOWN? OFTENTIMES PARK STREET IS FULL AND McDONALD HOUSE IS FULL. PEOPLE ARE LINING UP IN THE EVENINGS. IT’S TERRIBLE WHAT WE’RE DOING TO PEOPLE. AND BLOOMING HOUSE IS FULL. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS BUDGET THAT I MISSED BECAUSE I DON’T
SEE THAT SECTION IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL SHELTERS? >> NO, NOTHING ALLOCATED FOR ADDITIONAL SHELTERS IN CHARLOTTETOWN. >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I’M MISSING IN HERE UNDER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING? WE HAVE SMITH LODGE IS HAPPENING, PHASE TWO OF 13 FOR
THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW AND THAT GOT DELAYED AND PUNTED. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I’M MISSING IN HERE FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN OUR PROVINCE SPECIFICALLY FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN THIS CAPITAL BUDGET? >> NO, YOU’RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING WHAT’S IN YOUR HAND. >> THE HOME CONTINUED
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATION OF P.E.I. TO CONSTRUCT 30 TINY HOMES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, ARE WE ON TRACK WITH THAT? >> [Indiscernible] — >>THE PLAN IS STILL TO CONSTRUCT THOSE 30 HOMES, SIX A YEAR, IN ADDITION TO AN
ADDITIONAL NINE PER YEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. >> BECAUSE THAT’S A GOOD PROJECT. SO THE PLUS $108,000 IN 2023-24, WOULD THAT BE THE NINE BEDS — NOT THE NINE BEDS, THE NINE TINY HOMES THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT? >> IS THAT ON YOUR —
>> WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO AGAIN? >> UNDER HOMES VIA PARTNERSHIP, IT SAYS $10ILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, PLUS THE $800,000 IN THE 2023-24 FISCAL YEAR. >> YEAH, SO THE $834,000 INCLUDES ALLOCATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATION, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AS WELL AS THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
COLLEGE TO BUILD TWO SMALLER HOMES. >> OKAY. TWO SMALLER HOMES. SO THOSE ARE ABOUT $400,000 EACH? >> THE TWO SMALLER HOMES, NO, THE ALLOCATION FOR THEM IS ABOUT $155,000, $160,000 EACH. >> THAT’S GOOD TO KNOW. THE 45 TINY HOMES WITH EDUCATION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THROUGH
THE INDUSTRIAL ARTS PROGRAM AT A HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE ARE THOSE GOING? THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD PROGRAM. >> YEAH, THE SPECIFIC LOCATION IS STILL BEING DETERMINED. I KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THE POSSIBILITY OF A TINY HOME COMMUNITY, LOCATION
HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT, BUT WORK IS ONGOING IN TERMS OF FINDING THAT LOCATION. >> SO THEY’RE WORKING ON — WHAT WOULD BE — WOULD THAT GO TO — WHO WOULD THAT GO TO? TINY HOMES, WHO GETS THE TINY HOMES?
>> YEAH, IT WOULD BE FROM THE HOUSING REGISTRY, SOCIAL AND HOUSING REGISTRY CLIENTS. AGAIN, THEY’RE STILL FINALIZING THE PLANS FOR THAT IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU SELL THEM AT A REDUCED COST OR WHETHER THEY’RE STILL OWNED BY GOVERNMENT AND OCCUPIED.
>> SO THEY’RE IN THE PLANNING PHASE NOW AND THEN WHEN SHOULD WE EXPECT THE BUILDS OF THOSE — TALKING ABOUT ACQUIRING TWO HOMES IN 2023-24, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THAT PROGRAM TO BE FULLY RUNNING AND OPERATIONAL? IT’S A LOT OF PEOPLE TO COORDINATOR THINGS WITH.
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THOSE IMPORTANT TINY HOMES TO COME? >> THE PLAN IS THAT THEY’RE CURRENTLY BUILDING AND WORKING WITH ON THE TINY HOMES. IT’S MORE IF THE TINY HOME COMMUNITY IS SUCCESSFUL WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PLACED TO PLACE THEM SOMEWHERE.
SO THEY’RE ON TRACK TO BE BUILT EVERY YEAR, 15 TINY HOMES PER YEAR. I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT DOES SHE IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A PHASED APPROACH IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE TINY HOME COMMUNITY AND AS THESE BUILDS COME ONLINE AND CONTINUE TO
BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE WAY. >> IT’S JUST SO HARD WITH HOUSING TO TALK — WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SPEED, BUT THEN WHEN WE LOOK AND WHEN YOU GET DOWN INTO IT, IT’S ALWAYS SUPER SLOW AND I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT I CAN
DO TO HELP THIS GOVERNMENT SPEED THINGS UP. I KNOW IT’S VERY HARD AND SUPER DIFFICULT. I’M JUST SAYING A PHASED APPROACH — >> [Indiscernible] — >> WE DO NEED CARPENTERS AND IN A BIG WAY AND COORDINATION BETWEEN THE CARPENTERS AND THE CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATION AND THE
COLLEGE AND THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >> [Indiscernible]. >> THAT’S WHAT? THEY’VE BEEN HAPPENING FOR — I’M NOT GETTING INTO A DEBATE WITH PEOPLE OVER THERE HECKLING ME. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM. AGAIN, IT JUST BECOMES ABOUT
SPEED AND I THINK IF THERE’S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AND I’M WRITING NOTES DOWN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET TMAKE SURE THAT THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS THERE FOR GETTING THIS DONE.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN SPEED UP — EVEN THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION IF WE CAN SPEED UP ONE HOUSE OR ONE PROGRAM, I THINK IT’S TIME WELL SERVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR, FOR YOUR TIME. >> SHALL THIS SECTION CARRY? >> AGREED. >> INNOVATION P.E.I., CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUILDINGS.
APPROPRIATIONS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION RENOVATIONS, $850,000, TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUILDINGS $850,000. SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. >> TOTAL EXPENDITURE $850,000, SHALL IT CARRY? >> CARRIED. JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, BUILDINGS. APPROPRIATION PROVIDED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION. CAPITAL REPAIRS, $385,000.
CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS, $1,480,000. LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY. >> CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AIR HANDLE SYSTEM SUPPORTS, WHAT THE AIR HANDLE SUPPORTS SYSTEM IS AT THE BIO TECH, FOOD TECH. >> I THINK THIS MIGHT BE INNOVATION.
I THINK WE CARRIED INNOVATION, BUT IT’S OKAY. WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. >> WE CARRY INNOVATION AND JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION. >> IF YOU DON’T MIND ANSWERING. >> THAT AIR HANDLER RUNS THE HVAC FOR THE PILOT PLANTS ONE
AND TWO WHICH ARE THE CFI-INSPECTED SPACES FOR FOOD PRODUCTION AT THE BIO FOOD TECH FACILITY. >> THIRD PARTY — OH, YOU’RE DONE? >> THERE WAS A CORONER’S REPORT THAT WAS JUSTELEASED TODAY ON THE DEATH OF KENNY HODONAUGHT AT THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY AND
THEY HAD FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE JURORS. PERHAPS IT’S TOO EARLY TO IMAGINE THAT THESE ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, BUT I’M GOING TO ASK ANYWAY. THE TWO THAT I COULD SEE AS CAPITAL EXPENSES — THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ONE WAS THAT WE INSTALL
DEFIBRILLATORS IN ALL WINGS — THESE ARE NOT HUGE EXPENSES — AND THAT WE CONSIDER INSTALLING CAMERAS IN EACH CELL. MAYBE THAT’S ALREADY PART OF THE CAPITAL EXPENSE THAT I SEE IN THE PROVINCIAL CORRECTIONAL CENTRE. THAT IS CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH, THEY DO HAVE A LINE TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO THE CORRECTIONAL CENTRE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY HAVE $235,000 A YEAR. IF THEY — WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO BUY TO KIND OF ADHERE TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FUNDED
FROM WITHIN THAT. YEAH, IT WOULD BE CAPITAL IF THE EXPENSE WAS GREAT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT CAPITAL AND IT LIKELY WOULD BE. SO THAT’S WHERE THAT LINE WOULD COME FROM. >> THANKS, JORDAN. NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN, BY THE WAY. JUST SO I’M CLEAR, THAT $200,000
SOMETHING THAT’S FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THAT’S MONEY SET ASIDE FOR WHATEVER THE PARTICULAR NEED OF THAT YEAR IS, IT’S NOT EARMARKED FOR ANYTHING SPECIFIC. IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT’S CORRECT, YEAH. >> SO IF THIS WAS AN EXPENSE THAT WAS EITHER OUTSIDE THAT OR
THEY’VE ALREADY EXHAUSTED ALL OF THOSE FUNDS, GIVEN THAT THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOMEBODY DIED SO IT’S A FAIRLY I WOULD SAY HIGH PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS TO PROTECT AND IT SAYS HERE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENSURE THE BUILDING REMAINS SAFE, SECURE, A SECURE STRUCTURE FOR STAFF AND OFFENDERS IN CUSTODY.
SO IT CERTAINLY FALLS UNDER THAT. WOULD — WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM IF IT WASN’T IN THAT FUND AND GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS I THINK THEY ARE? >> YEAH, SO IF THE DEPARTMENT DIDN’T HAVE THE FUNDS ALLOCATED
FOR THAT, THEY WOULD — THE MECHANISM WOULD BE THEY WOULD COME TO TREASURY BOARD, REQUESTING TO SPEND ADDITIONAL FUNDING WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERED. DEPENDING IF IT PUTS THEM OVER THEIR APPROPRIATION FOR THAT YEAR, IT WOULD RESULT IN A SPECIAL WARRANT AT THAT TIME.
DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF EACH OF THOSE INITIATIVES AND ALSO TIMING, IT COULD TAKE A WHILE TO IMPLEMENT, ESPECIALLY THINKING OF THE CAMERA RECOMMENDATION, WHEREAS THE DEFIBRILLATOR ONE COULD BE RECOMMENDED SOONER. >> I SEE IN THE NEXT IN THE MORE DETAILED HANDOUT THAT WE HAVE
HERE, THE P.E.I. YOUTH CENTRE ALSO, THE STIPULATION OR THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE THAT THE BUILDING REMAINS A SAFE, SECURE STRUCTURE FOR STAFF AND YOUTH OFFENDERS. I’M ASSUMING THAT RECOMMENDATIONS TO SLEEPY HOLLOW WOULD ALSO APPLY TO THE
P.E.I. — IF WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE AN IMPORTANT SAFETY UPGRADE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD ALSO CARRY OVER TO THE YOUTH CENTRE? >> YEAH, I’M NOT SURE. THAT WOULD BE A DEPARTMENTAL DECISION. >> A POLICY DECISION. >> YEAH, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY
COPY OVER I GUESS AND PUT INTO THE YOUTH CENTRE. I KNOW THAT THEY’RE VERY DIFFERENT FACILITIES, SO THAT WOULD PLAY A FACTOR AS WELL. >> I SEE THAT THERE IS MONEY SET ASIDE $730,000, IN THE NEXT FISCAL. THE WORK WOULD START THIS YEAR
OR THE YEAR OF THE BUDGET WE’RE DISCUSSING. THIS IS FOR CLIMATE CONTROL, THAT’S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, AGAIN AT THE PROVINCIAL CORRECTIONAL CENTRE. WHAT’S THERE NOW? I’M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE LEVEL OF CLIMATE CONTROL IS IN THE BUILDING. >> THAT’S BEYOND WHAT I WOULD BE
ABLE TO TELL YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT’S THERE NOW. I KNOW THIS IS A MUCH-NEEDED VENTILATION UPGRADE AS IT SAYS FOR BOTH STAFF AND THE CLIENT BASE. IN TERMS OF WHAT’S THERE NOW, I DON’T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH ME. >> I’M GLAD THEY’RE DOING THAT
AND I NOTICE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT BACK TODAY FROM THE MINISTER THAT THERE’S SOME SPECIFIC STUFF AROUND HILLSBOROUGH HOSPITAL AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO CLIMA CONTROL THERE AND I KNOW THAT’S SOMETHING OUR CAUCUS HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.
I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT AND IT’S EASY TO FORGET THAT FOLKS IN JAIL OR IN MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTIONS, THAT THEY ARE WORTHY AND DESERVING OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE REST OF US HAVE. SO I’M GLAD THAT THIS IS HAPPENING HERE.
PRINT COUNTY COURTHOUSE, I SEE THAT’S A LARGE $4 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, ALTHOUGH THE PLANNING DOESN’T START FOR ANOTHER YEAR I THINK. SO THAT’S GOING TO BE AN ENTIRE — THIS IS A NEW BUILD AND AN ENTIRE REPLACEMENT OF THE COURTHOUSE IN SUMMERSIDE? >> YES.
SO THE KEY PIECE IN THAT PROJECT IS THE NEXT YEAR’S FUNDING WHICH IS THE $400 K FOR MASTER PLANNING. THE SCOPE OF THAT MASTER PLAN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WOULD INCORPORATE THE PRINCE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY THAT IS BENEATH THAT.
ALSO THE P.E.I. YOUTH CENTRE ITSELF. WHAT IS THE BEST UTILIZATION OF THAT CENTRE AND IT’S ALSO SITTING ON A LARGER PIECE OF LAND. SO CAN THAT LAND ALSO BE USED TO INCORPORATE WHAT THIS NEW PRINCE COUNTY COURTHOUSE LOOKS LIKE? I ALSO KNOW THAT AS PART OF THAT
THE SUPREME COURT IS ALSO IN THE PARK. THAT MOVED DUE TO COVID-19. AGAIN, ALL FOUR OF THOSE PIECES WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MASTER PLAN TO DETERMINE WHERE IT SHOULD GO AND WHAT EXISTING FACILITIES, I.E., THE YOUTH CENTRE COULD BE UTILIZED IN TERMS OF THAT REPLACEMENT.
>> THAT’S INTERESTING, JORDAN, TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A CONSOLIDATION OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THERE. THAT $3.94 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, IS THAT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED? >> NO.
THE $400 K IS FOR NEXT YEAR FROM THE MASTER PLAN. THEN THE SITE-SELECTION PLANNING WOULD START IN 2027-28 WITH CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN BETWEEN 2027-28 AND 2028-29. NO, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE COST WOULD BE BETTER. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MASTER PLAN DETERMINES IN TERMS OF
UTILIZING EXISTING SITES VERSUS A NEW BUILD. >> I FIGURED THAT AND I JUST FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT THIS WAS WRITTEN AS THE PRINCE COUNTY COURTHOUSE REPLACEMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT’S A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT IF YOU INCORPORATE ALL THOSE OTHER ASPECTS. LAST YEAR’S BUDGET, MOVING ONTO
A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ASPECT OF IT, THERE WAS A $5 MILLION OVERSPEND ON THE WOMEN’S UNIT AND I’M WONDERING IF YOU CAN TELL US WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR THAT AND WHY IT ENDED UP COSTING SO MUCH IN THE END. >> WHEN YOU SAY “OVERSPEND IN
THE WOMEN’S UNIT,” ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL PROJECT OR JUST IN THE CURRENT FORECAST? >> I’M NOT SURE WHICH PIECE OF PAPER I HAVE IT ON, JORDAN. >> I DO KNOW WHAT I CAN ANSWER IS IN THE CURRENT YEAR THE
BUDGET FOR THE WOMEN’S UNIT WAS MINIMAL. IT WAS BASICALLY ADDRESSING THE INEFFICIENCIES LEFT OVER. THE CURRENT FORECAST IS $1.5 MILLION, SO IT IS AN OVERSPEND IN THIS YEAR. IT WOULDN’T AFFECT THE PROJECT TOTAL. IT’S JUST THE TIMING OF WHEN THESE EXPENSES ARE INCURRED.
I KNOW THERE WAS DELAYS DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND CONTRACTORS AS WELL FOR THAT PROJECT. SO I KNOW IT’S COMING TO COMPLETION. I THINK THEY’RE IN THEIR FINAL WEEKS OF ACTUALLY OPERATIONALIZING THAT WOMEN’S UNIT. THERE WAS A DELAY IN COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT.
>> I THIN THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR THIS SECTION. >>HALL THE SECTION CARRY? >> SO JUST — I’M JUST GOING BACK THROUGH THE — SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF. THE VENTILATION UPGRADES AT THE PROVINCIAL CORRECTION CENTRE, THAT WAS IN LAST YEAR’S
PRIMARILY IN 2024-25. SO WE’RE STILL ON TRACK WITH THAT, WE JUST DIDN’T DO ANYTHING? >> YEAH, IT’S STILL THE SAME TIMELINE. LAST YEAR’S BUDGET WAS $20,000 IN CURRENT YEAR $730,000 IN 2024-25 AND THAT’S THE SAME ALLOCATION. >> THAT’S GOOD BECAUSE ONE WAS
$730,000, SO IT WENT DOWN — YOU DID SPEND THE $20,000. WHAT WAS THAT MONEY SPENT ON? I BELIEVE THEY’RE EVEN DOING THAT NOW IS THE DESIGN WORK FOR THE VENTILATION UPGRADES SO THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION CAN HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. >> AND THE VENTILATION, WOULD
THAT GET US UP TO CERTAIN STANDARDS, DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING — IS THERE ANY NEED FOR ANY RAYDON TESTING IN OUR CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES? HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT? WILL THIS VENTILATION SYSTEM HAVE ANY COMPONENTS FOR THAT? >> THERE’S NO MENTION OF RAY DON
TESTING NOR THE NEED FOR IT. I KNOW THIS WILL PROVIDE COOLING AND DEHUMIDIFICATION OF THE MAIN BUILDING ITSELF AND THAT’S WHAT THE PROJECT IS SET TO ACCOMPLISH TO PROVIDE CERTAINLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS A MORE COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR STAFF. >> SO THE PROVINCIAL CORRECTIONAL CENTRE IMPROVEMENTS
AND IT SAYS $1.2 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, BUT IN THIS BUDGET LINE YEAR IT SAID $1.7 MILLION. SO THEORETICALLY YOU SPENT $5 MILLION — SORRY, $500,000? >> YEAH, I THINK POSSIBLY I DON’T HAVE LAST YEAR’S SHEETS IN FRONT OF ME, IT MIGHT HAVE COMBINED THE PROVINCIAL
CORRECTIONAL CENTRE AND THE P.E.I. CENTRE IMPROVEMENTS. CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG. I BELIEVE THOSE BUDGET AMOUNTS WERE UNCHANGED FROM LAST YEAR, SO I WOULDN’T EXPECT THEM TO BE ANY DIFFERENT. >> AND SO THEY’RE PRETTY MUCH — YEAH, THEY WERE COMBINED AND I’M JUST SEEING THAT HERE.
WHY WEREN’T THEY SEPARATED — WHY WE THEY — WHY DID YOU SEPARATE THEM OUT IN THE BUDGET? WAS THERE ANY REASON FOR THAT? AND THERE WAS NO MONEY DONE ON THAT PROJECT AT ALL, THOSE TWO PROJECTS? >> NO — YEAH, SO THE REASON WHY
THEY’RE SEPARATED, I MEAN, NEW STAFF WORKING ON THEM, THERE’S GOING TO BE DIFFERENCES IN SHEETS FROM YEAR TO YEAR. I THINK IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE LARGER ITEMS, IT’S PROBABLY BETTER TO SEPARATE THEM ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY’RE FOR DIFFERENT FACILITIES. IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY
DONE, THE FIVE-YEAR ALLOCATION IS THE SAME, WHICH IS AGAIN $235,000 A YEAR FOR THE CORRECTIONAL CENTRE, $100,000 A YEAR FOR THE YOUTH CENTRE AND THEY ARE FORECASTED TO SPEND BOTH OF THOSE ALLOCATIONS IN THE CURRENT YEAR AS WELL. >> BECAUSE IN THIS ONE THE
DIFFERENCE IS THIS YEAR IT SAYS MUCH-NEEDED MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL REPAIR, BUT IT DOESN’T SAY IT IN THE LAST ONE. DID IT GET WORSE? I’M JUST WONDERING WHY THE MONEY WASN’T SPENT. IT DIDN’T SAY IT WAS GOING IN THIS YEAR, THOSE PROJECTS ARE
GOING TO BE DONE STARTING IN 2024? >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED IN THE CURRENT-YEAR BUDGET IS PLANNED TO BE FULLY SPENT. THE $1.2 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE FUTURE FIVE-YEAR PLAN STARTING NEXT YEAR, SAME WITH THE FIVE-YEAR
PLAN STARTING NEXT YEAR. INCLUDING THIS YEAR, IT’S $235,000 AND $100 FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS WHICH ARE PROJECTED TO BE SPENT. >> I GET YOU. THE BIG PROJECTS AREN’T STARTING, BUT WE’RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT IN THE PLANNING PHASE? >> BOTH OF THESE ALLOCATIONS ARE
SIMILAR TO HOUSING ALLOCATION. THIS IS A LIST PRIORITIZED EVERY YEAR AND THAT IS THE ALLOCATION TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE FACILITIES. >> I’LL JUST GO TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. THAT LINE WAS IN LAST YEAR’S TOO, JUST IN A DIFFERENT SPOT. YEAH, SO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS
WAS $200,000 AND THIS YEAR — THAT WAS NEW FUNDING LAST YEAR AND NOW WE SEE THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS $800,000 OVER TWO YEARS WITH $500,000 IN 2024-25. WAS THIS A SIGN THAT WE WEREN’T READY FOR HURRICANE FIONA? >> IS THAT A CAPITAL BUDGET QUESTION?
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION OVER THERE. >> TWO OF US ARE ANYWAY. >> SO THIS IS GOING TOWARDS THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE. IS IT MOVING FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION? >> NO, NO, IT’S NOT. NO, IT’S NOT MOVING. IT IS STAYING WHERE IT IS.
IT’S JUST IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR CURRENT LOCATION. ONE PROJECT IS AN UPGRADE TO VIDEO CONFERENCING. THAT WAS INCLUDED IN LAST YEAR’S BUDGET. AND THE CURRENT YEAR ALLOCATION, IT’S KIND OF LISTED THERE, SOME COSTS, SOME RADIOS AND HIGH-CAPACITY GENERATORS. SO IT’S REALLY TO BOLSTER WHAT THAT DIVISION CURRENTLY HAS.
>> HONOURABLE MEMBERS, CAN I JUST PASS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PART FIRST? TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PART SHALL CARRY? >> CARRY. >> AND APPROPRIATION PROVIDED FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PURPOSES, SYSTEM MODERNIZATION, EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, IT SYSTEM MODERATION, TOTAL EQUIPMENT AND OTHER ASSETS $3,016,300. >> YES.
SO YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS STUFF THAT WASN’T PURCHASED THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR BUT WASN’T PURCHASED? >> NO, THAT’S PART OF THE NEW ALLOCATION. THE INCREASE IS TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR WAS PURCHASED AND IMPLEMENTED.
>> SO $850,000 OVER TWO YEARS, WITH $500,000 IN 2024-25. IT JUST — THESE ARE NOT — THESE AREN’T OPERATIONAL. THESE ARE DEFINITELY CAPITAL BECAUSE THEY’RE ALL COMPUTER BASED OR IS THAT CONSIDERED TYPICALLY — >> YEAH, LIKE IN TERMS OF LIKE SAY THE HIGH-CAPACITY PORTABLE
GENERATORS WHEN YOU’RE PURCHASING THAT AMOUNT OF THEM, THEY WOULD BE OVER THE CAPITAL THRESHOLD. IF YOU’RE PURCHASING MAYBE ONE RADIO, IT WOULD BE OPERATING UNDER THAT THRESHOLD IF THEY’RE PURCHASED IN GREATER QUANTITY. >> HOW MANY GENERATORS ARE WE PURCHASING? >> FOR THIS PARTICULAR LINE
ITEM, IT’S SIX HIGH-CAPACITY, PORTABLE GENERATORS. >> AND WHERE ARE THOSE GOING? >> THEY’RE HELD BY THE EMO OFFICE AND I’M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR OPERATIONAL PLANS ARE, BUT THEY WILL BE USED IN THE AREAS OF NEED IF AN EMERGENCY WAS TO OCCUR.
>> SO WE’VE GOT SIX GENERATORS. WHAT’S THE COST OF EACH OF THOSE GENERATORS AND THEY’RE HIGH-CAPACITY OBVIOUSLY AND WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO BE ALLOCATED TO. ARE THEY ALLOCATED BY REGION OR HOW IS THAT — >> I DON’T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF
DETAIL OR THE COSTING PER GENERATOR. >> LOOKING AT THE FIRST SUBSECTION HERE IN OUR DETAILED HANDOUT ON THE EQUIPMENT AND OTHER CAPITAL ASSETS, I SEE THAT THE EMO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WE’VE GOT $850,000 OVER ABOUT TO YEARS, $500,000 OF THAT IS IN THE FUTURE YEARS.
SO I’M DOING THE MATH, THAT’S $350,000 THIS YEAR. I SEE THAT THE SECOND LINE THERE, THE TARGETED EMO EQUIPMENT SUCH AS RADIOS, BLANKETS, HIGH-CAPACITY — BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, I’M WONDERING WHETHER WITHIN THE RADIOS THAT ARE MENTIONED THERE, WHETHER THERE IS ANY ARRANGEMENT OR
PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT FOR HAM RADIOS? THOSE ARE — WHAT’S THE WORD I’M THINKING OF — AMATEUR OPERATORS HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA AND NEW BRUNSWICK, HAM RADIO OPERATORS ARE A CRITICAL PART OF THEIR EMO WHEN COMMUNICATIONS GO DOWN, INTERNET AND OUR CELL PROVIDERS.
THEY STEP UP AND THE EMO HAS HAM RADIO FACILITIES IN THEIR EMO CENTRES THAT THESE FOLKS COME IN AND HELP THEM WITH THEM. >> ARE YOU BEING AGELESS TO US HERE. HE MIGHT BE TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A HAM RADIO IS.
>> I FELT I NEEDED TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON IT. >> I APPRECIATE IT. IN TERMS OF THEIR PLAN THEY PUT FORWARD, IT’S FOR EMERGENCY RADIOS. IT DOESN’T SPECIFY WHETHER IT’S HAM. TYPICALLY THEY WOULD BE FIXED-TO RADIOS, BUT I’M NOT SURE IF
THEY’RE SPECIFICALLY HAM OR NOT. [ Please Stand By ] >> ..REPORT YOUR PROGRESS. >> OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE SPEAKER TAKE THE CHAIR. >> SHALLOTS CARRY? — SHALL IT CARRY? >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAND UP. >> MADAME SPEAKER, UNDER CONSIDERATION THE GRANT OF CAPITAL SUPPLY I BEG YOUR LEAD
THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE PROGRESS AND ASKS TO SIT AGAIN. I ASK YOU BE ADOPTED. >> The Speaker: SHALL IT CARRY? >> I BEG TO INTRODUCE A BILL. ENTITLED ACT TO AMEND THE FARM MACHINERY DEALERS AND VENDORS ACT MOVING SECONDED BY LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> The Speaker: SHALL IT CARRY?
>> BILL NUMBER 100 INTEND TO AMEND AN ACT, RED FIRST TIME. >> The Speaker: DO YOU HAVE AN EXPLANATION. >> BRIEF, IT WILL ALLOW A FARMER TO ACCESS THE COMPUTER CODE OR THE MANUALS TO REPAIR THEIR FARM MACHINERY AND THE FARM VENDOR WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. [ Applause ]
>> THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> I BEG LEAVE TO AMEND — INTRODUCE A BILL TO AMEND AND ACT IN A BE RECEIVED. >> The Speaker: SHALL IT CARRY >>> 112. >> IS CYSTIC AT MORE HOUSING DONE QUICKLY. >> The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.
>> I MOVE THAT THE 15th ORDER OF THE DATE NOW BE READ. >> AN ACT TO AMEND THE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ACT. >> The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. >> I MOVE SECONDED BY THE MEMBER FROM CHARLOTTETOWN WEST ROYALTY TO RESOLVE ITSELF TO TAKE IN TO CONSIDERATION SAID BILL. HONOURABLE DEPUTY SPEAKER.
>> THAT HOUSES NOW A COMMITTEE OF A WHOLE. >> SHALLOTS CARRY? >> WE ARE DEBATING AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION THREE OF THIS BILL PUT FORWARD BY THE LEADER OF THE THIRD PARTY. SHALL THE AMENDMENTS CARRY? CAN I SEE A SHOW OF HANDS OF THOSE VOTING AGAINST THE AMENDMENT? , AGAINST THE AMENDMENT, ALL
THOSE DEBATING IN FAVOUR OF THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN DEFEATED. , SHALL THE SECTION THAT CARRY? >> THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WE ARE DEBATING SECTION THREE. SHALL THE SECTION CARRY? WE HAVE CARRIED SECTION FOUR. SHALL THE BILL CARRY? LEADER OF THE THIRD-PARTY. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
THE OTHER DAY WHEN THE BILL WAS ON THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE, I’D LIKE TO READ WHAT YOU SAID LAST WEEK ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. AND WE THANK THE MINISTER. YOU’RE ASKED TO BRING THE AMENDMENTS CHANGE THE BILL 100 PERCENT. I’M WONRING HOWOU FEEL ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT HAS DONE TO YR BILL
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REE ARS WH SOME CONFUSION AT FIRST. BU I BELIE IT WA BROUGHT RWARDS CORRECT. AND AFTERHREEYEARS Y WIL HAVE THR PAID SICK DAYSWITH A PROVION FOR SUPPO TO SMAL BUNESSES >> LEAD OF THE TRD-PAR. >> ARE YOU HAP WI TH BILL AMENDED. >> I’M NOT HAP. AND NSIDINGHAT THERE ARE
INITIAL REASONS FOR THE BILL, SO ISLANDS T D NEED TO CHOOSE AND I THANK WE CAN PUT A LITTLE WATER IN THE WINE HERE. >> A LITTLE B. >> IT’S NOT WHAT WE PUT FORWARD, AND IT’S NOT ENOUGH. IT’S NOT WHAT OUR INTENTION WAS. WITH THIS BILL WE PUT FORWARD
AND WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT AMENDMENTS FORWARD IN THE FUTURE TO TRY TO CHANGE THE DAYS AND I GUESS OVERALL I’M NOT PLEASED WITH THE AMENDMENT HOWEVER IT IS A STEP FORWARD. >> I’D LIKE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING. GOVERNMENT COMPLETELY HIJACKED THIS BILL. , BRITISH COLUMBIA DID A REVIEW
OF THE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS AND PEI GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU DESERVE ONE DAY AFTER TWO YEARS OF BEING EMPLOYED AND I THINK THAT’S SHAMEFUL THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD PUT THAT FORWARD. AND I WILL VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS BETTER THAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT JUST BARELY. >> SHALL IT CARRY? THANK YOU. >> CONGRATULATIONS.
>> NOT YET . >> I MOVE THE ENACTING CLAUSE. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> I MOVE THE CHAIR REPORT THE BILL AS AGREED TO WITH AMENDMENTS. >> SHALL IT CARRY? >> MADAME SPEAKER, A CONSIDERATION WITH AN ACT TO AMEND THE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ACT AND THE COMMITTEE HAS GONE
THROUGH THE BILL AND I MOVE THE REPORT BE ADOPTED. >> THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FROM CHARLOTTETOWN WEST ROYALTY. >> THIS TIME WE WILL CALL MOTION NUMBER 76 . >> THERE’S BEEN A A DISTURBING AMOUNT OF ALLOWED OPEN DRUG USE — [ Poor microphone quality ] >> THEY’VE REPORTED THEY DON’T
FEEL SAFE GOING TO THE OUTREACH CENTRE DUE TO ALLOWED OPEN DRUG USE. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THE GOVERNMENT IS URGED TO PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH SAFETY AND OVERALL WELL-BEING OF PEOPLE AND BE A FURTHER RESOLVED THE ASSEMBLY URGES GOVERNMENT… Poor microphone quality ] >> The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.
>> PRIMARILY IT’S TO DO WITH THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED OR NOT PROVIDED, AND INITIALLY AND I THINK THE CONCEPT WAS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SOMEHOW IT TOTALLY WENT OFF THE RAILS AND IN DOING SO AND HAS A HUGE IMPACT AND EVERY COMMUNITY ACROSS PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND
ALMOST EVERY FAMILY WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION ISSUES SEEKING HELP AND JUST AND IT’S BEEN SNOWBALLING OUT OF CONTROL AND NOTHING WAS BEING DONE ABOUT A FACILITY AND WE’RE STILL NOT SURE WHO MADE THE DECISION TO PUT IT BETWEEN TWO SCHOOLS ACROSS FROM A CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL
AREA AND AGAIN AND IT WAS AND I HAVE CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT WHETHER IT BE THE INDIVIDUAL WE ARE SEEKING, WITH THE SUPPORTS OR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE REACHINGUT ASKING FOR THEIR LOVED ONES AND THEY SEEM TO BE HITTING WALLS AT TIMES IN THE CAPITOL BUDGET. THE FERRY FIRST THING I NOTICED
WAS THERE WAS NO PUSH BEING ADDED TO THE ONLY ADDICTION CENTRE. THERE WAS NO BEDS BEING ADDED SO FOR ANYONE TO ACCESS THE PROGRAM, THEY NEED TO APPLY TO COULDN’T THEM AND IT’S THE HIGH SEVENTIES, 79 PERCENT OF THE TIME THOSE WHO REACH OUT TO NOT GET IN TO THE ADDICTION SERVICES
WITHIN ONE WEEK AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND HASN’T BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS GOVERNMENT AND IF THERE IS A NEED AND OBVIOUSLY THERE’S A NEED FOR MORE BEDS. AND WE START OFF BUT THEY AREN’T EVEN ADDRESSING THE FIRST STEP AND THEY DO FINALLY GET IN AND
THEN THEY COULD BE SEVEN TO TEN DAYS AND THEY ARE GIVEN AFTER WITH THE COMPLETION ACCESSING THE OTHER PROGRAMS AND THEY ARE PUT BACK IN THE STREET AND THEY WILL TELL YOU ONCE THEY ARE PUT BACK THEY HAVE PEOPLE WAITING FOR THEM TO EITHER SO ARE TO USE WITH THEM.
IT’S A SMALL COMMUNITY. EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYBODY. AND IF THEY ARE EVEN OUT FOR ONE DAY THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE SCARED. I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. BACK INTO THOUSAND AND 13, REACHING OUT TO ME, HE HAD HIT ROCK BOTTOM AND THE PARENTS HAD SPOKEN TO ME SEVERAL TIMES THAT
THEY CAN’T EVEN SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING FOR THAT KNOCK ON THE DOOR. TO SAY YOUR SONG IS NO LONGER WITH US BECAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA WHERE THE SUN MIGHT BE OR WHAT DRUG SAID INDIVIDUAL MIGHT BE PUTTING INTO HIS BODY. IT’S SCARY WITH THE DRUGS AND
THE STRESS OF THEM. ONE DOES THAT KNOW IF THEY ARE LACED WITH FENTANYL. MARIJUANA ITSELF IS PROBABLY A THOUSAND TIMES STRONGER THAN IT WAS BACK WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER AND I DO NEED TO SAY THEY NEED TO REGULATED AND I DO BELIEVE IN AND THE REASONING BEHIND IT IT’S
REGULATED FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO USE. IT’S A SCARY SITUATION FOR ANY DIVIDUAL WHO WAS COMING OUT OF MOUNT HERBERT AND ARE PUT BACK ON THE STREET WITH NO SUPPORT AND NOWHERE TO GO. I DON’T BELIEVE THAT A PERSON CAN BE COMPLETELY SOBER AFTER SEVEN TO TEN DAYS.
IT TAKES MONTHS FOR THAT TO LEAVE THEIR SYSTEM. THIS INDIVIDUAL, WE WERE ABLE TO GET HIM INTO SOME PROGRAMMING. HE CAME BACK ON THE METHADONE PROJECT AND WEANED HIMSELF OFF THAT AND WAS A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER WHO WORKED IN FISHING. HE WAS SEEN AROUND HIS COMMUNITY THEY KNEW THEY COULD PUT THEIR
HEADS DOWN AT NIGHT AND SLEEP AND NOT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE THEIR SON IS. SHE HAD AN ACCIDENT WHILE WORKING CARPENTRY AND CUT THE END OF HIS FINGER OFF AND WENT INTO THE ARE AND THE DAUGHTER ON CALL PRESCRIBED OPIOIDS. RIGHT BACK ON IT, MADAME SPEAKER
SO HE SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS STRUGGLING AND FIGHTING ADDICTION. NO FAULT OF HIS OWN TO BE QUITE HONEST. HE HIT THE SAME POINT HE DID IN 2013 AND REACHED OUT FOR HELP AND THE WAIT TIME EVEN JUST TO GET IN WAS A LOT LONGER THAN ONE WEEK.
BUT HE WANTED TO DO IT AND KNEW IN THE PAST HE HAD FOUGHT. HE DIDN’T WIN THE BATTLE BUT HE DID FIGHT IT AND KNEW HE COULD GIVE IT ANOTHER EFFORT AND HE WAITED AND GOT IN AND SEVEN DAYS AFTER HE WAS RELEASED AND GIVEN ONE HOUR, TWO HOURS AWAY, HE PUT
THEM OUT ON THE STREET AND HE CALLED ME TERRIFIED, $300 IN HIS POCKET AND HE DID NOT WANT TO GO TO ANY OF THESE ADJUSTED HOUSING BECAUSE HE KNEW INDIVIDUALS MIGHT PERSUADE HIM TO USE AGAIN. THEY PUT HIM BACK INTO THAT ENVIRONMENT. HE WAS WELL AWARE OF THAT AND WAS TOO WEEK.
AND THERE WAS NO BAD FOR HIM. WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REACHING OUT FOR HELP AND HAD BEEN TURNED AWAY SEVERAL TIMES. AND HE WAS — SOMEONE CAME AND PICKED HIM UP AND BROUGHT HIM BACK HOME. HE IS STILL STRUGGLING TODAY. ISLAND PROGRAMMING. IT WAS HIS DOCTOR’S REQUEST HE
GO WITH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT DID WORK LAST TIME. HE IS AT A POINT WHERE HE REALLY WANTS IT AND THIS PROGRAMMING WILL — I’M CAN SAY I AM CERTAIN IT WILL HELP BUT IT MOST LIKELY WILL. BUT WHAT TO BE SAVED TO THAT FAMILY WHO WAS WAITING FOR THAT
PHONE CALL DOING EVERYTHING TO KEEP THAT INDIVIDUAL AWAY FROM THE ENVIRONMENT AWAY FROM THOSE WHO BASICALLY GOT HIM WHERE HE WAS? THEY ARE WAITING AND NO, HE HAS ACCESS TO MONEY SO IT’S TERRIFYING FOR HIM AND THE FAMILY AND I’VE DONE EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY COULD TO GIVE HIM DIRECTION AND I’M ASKING THE
PROVINCE TO HELP SUPPORT HIM. THE LAST TIME IT DIDN’T COST A CENT BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS PRIVATE DOLLARS. AND I’M JUST NOT HAVING MUCH SUCCESS BECAUSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE SUPPORTED MANY OTHERS SINCE THEN. IT SEEMS TO ME THE PRIVATE SECTORS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SOLVING THE ISSUES OF ADDICTION
THEN THIS GOVERNMENT IS. THERE’S NOT ONE FAMILY THAT I CAN THINK OF IN MY OWN DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY MEMBER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THESE ARE THE ROOT PROBLEM OF WHAT WE’RE SEEING AND THIS GOVERNMENT IS FAILING ISLANDERS INCENTIVE RESPONDING.
AND OUR EYES DO NOT DECEIVE US AND THIS IS THE REALITY WITH MANY ISLANDERS STRUGGLING AND THEY ARE NOT BEING ADMITTED TO PROGRAMMING AND A TIMELY MANNER WITH NO SEAMLESS EFFORT FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO HAVE PROGRAMMING AVAILABLE AS THEY FINISH ONE PROGRAM SO MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE FALLING THROUGH
THE CRACKS AND IT’S UNFORTUNATE. WE WILL GO TO THE OUTREACH CENTRE HERE IN CHARLOTTETOWN AND WE’VE SPENT A LOT OF OUR TIME ON THIS FLOOR AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT. IT AFFECTS EVERY COMMUNITY AND EVERY FAMILY. AND WITHIN MY LAST THREE WEEKS, I’VE BEEN HEARING IT HAVING A
LOT OF PEOPLE SENDING IN CORRESPONDENCE OR CALLING OUR OFFICE. COMING FORWARD WITH INFORMATION ON THEIR OWN STORY AND STRUGGLES THEY HAVE ENCOUNTERED TRYING TO HELP THEMSELVES TO SEEK THE HELP THEY NEED IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO THE OUTREACH CENTRE ORIGINALLY WAS SET UP SO THOSE WHO FOUND THEMSELVES DOWN AND
OUT OR HOMELESS HAD A PLACE TO GO. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 24/7 BUT IT WAS 12 HOURS A DAY AS A WARMING CENTRE WITH A FEW SNACKS AND WASHROOM FACILITIES AND SOME DIRECTIO WITH HOUSING DIRECTION WHICH I BELIEVE HAD GOOD INTENTIONS. HOWEVER, THE CENTRE HAS TURNED INTO A HUGE..DEBATE IN THIS HOUSE.
IT’S GOTTEN OUT OF HAND WITH OPEN DRUG USE AND IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED AND IT’S BEEN, IT WAS ILLEGAL AT THE GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED PROPERTY HERE IN DOWNTOWN CHARLOTTETOWN ANDÑSst: WAYS AND I CAN’T UNDERSTAND HOW IT GOT TO BE THIS WAY AND IT SAID EVERY DAY WHEN YOU GO BY YOU SEE AN AMBULANCE
INDIVIDUAL OVERDOSING OR RECENTLY BEING STABBED OR BEATEN AND THAT’S NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS AND THAT’S WHAT IT’S BECOME, IT’S BECOME THAT WAY BECAUSE OF MITCH MANAGEMENT AND ITS VIACOM THAT WAY BY MISMANEMENT OF THIS GOVERNMENT. , WE TURNED A BLIND EYE TO THE NEEDS ON THE SILENT ON THE NEEDS
OF OUR ISLANDERS AND THEIR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE SILENT. WE WENT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE ISLAND AND THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THE NUMBER 1, WHICH IS WE DON’T WANT THIS IN OUR BACKYARD AND WE NEED PROGRAMMING TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUFFER FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE BUT WE DO NOT
WANT WAS CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. AND THAT WAS MADE LOUD AND CLEAR BUT THEY DID WANTS WAS SERVICES PROVIDED SO THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN A HOMELESS SITUATION WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ANYONE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK WILL HAVE SERVICES OR A PLACE TO GO WHERE THEY COULD
BE GIVEN SOME DIRECTION OR SUPPORT OR PROGRAMMING. THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR AN OUTREACH CENTRE WHICH HAS GONE TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL WHICH IS DIVIDING A COMMUNITY HERE IN CHARLOTTETOWN AND I NEED TO GIVE ACKNOWLEDGE MEANT TO THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PUT UP WITH THIS AND SAD WE’VE HAD ENOUGH OF
THIS CRIME AND OPEN DRUG USE WITH FAMILY AND CHILDREN NOT SEE THIS. I COMMEND THEM FOR BEING LOUD BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS WHICH IS A SOUND REALITY. WITH NO CONSIDERATION AND A DECISION PROCESS AVENUE PLACING IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND NOT ADDRESSING THEIR REQUEST OR
THEIR CONCERNS ALONG THE WAY. BASICALLY WE’RE GOING TO TURN A BLIND EYE AND KEEP THROWING MONEY INTO IT BECAUSE NOW WE SEE THE NUMBERS. AND THIS GOVERNMENT POPS THEMSELVES ON THE BACK OVER THAT AND THEY THINK THAT’S GREAT, THAT’S TERRIBLE. THAT SHOWS THAT IT IS NOT WORKING. IT WAS SAID BY THIS GOVERNMENT
IT WAS TOLERANT OF THE OPEN DRUG USE THERE. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A DECISION MADE TO ALLOW ILLEGAL OPEN DRUG USE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE SO WE’VE BEEN ASKING QUESTIONS TIME ..EVERY DAY AND I’M JUST NOT GETTING ANSWERS. I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE THE ANSWERS. THEY HAVE BLINDERS ON AND JUST
SAY THEY CAN’T SEE IT BUT THEY JUST THROW MORE MONEY INTO IT AND NOW THEY SUGGEST THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE IT DOWN THE ROAD AND THAT’LL SOLVE THE CONCERNS. BUT THAT’S PUTTING IT INTO A NEW NEIGHBOURHOOD GIVING ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS SOMETHING THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT AND THEY ARE NOT
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS. IT’S A ROOT PROBLEM OF WHAT’S HAPPENING ATHE OUTREACH SENSOR AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. FROM DAY ONE I’VE BEEN ASKING THE CURRENT OPERATION BE STOPPED WHY? IT’S AN ENABLING CENTRE. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK TO INDIVIDUALS TO SEE WHAT
DIRECTION IS THERE TO GET HOUSING, MAYBE I AM AN ADDICT AND I MADE THE DECISION THAT I WANT TO HELP, THEY CANNOT GO TO THE OUTREACH CENTRE AND FEEL SAFE. BECAUSE THERE’S OPEN DRUG USE AND CRIME WITH THAT WHOLE NEIGHBOURHOOD AND THAT IS NO RIGHTS. THE INITIAL INTENT WAS TO HELP
THOSE PEOPLE AND NOW THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE SCARED TO GO NEAR THAT PROPERTY. AND SHAME ON EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND ON THOSE WHO MADE THESE DECISIONS TO ALLOW OPEN DRUG USE. , SHAME ON ALL OF THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN ANY DECISION-MAKING. THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE PETRIFIED HAVING THERE WOULDN’T
— TERRIFIED TO EVEN HALF THEIR WINDOWS OPEN, SHE HAD IT OPEN AND AN INDIVIDUAL CAME RIGHT TO HER WINDOW ASKING FOR MONEY. THESE PEOPLE ARE SCARED AND I DON’T BLAME THEM BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF CRIME HAS INCREASED. WE ALL KNOW IT’S BY A GREAT DEAL PUTTING IN A LOT OF STRAIN ON
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS GOVERNMENT LIKES TO SAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY KEEP SAYING IT WAS A FEDERAL DIRECTIVE NOT ONLY GIVEN TO DIRECTION, IT’S A FEDERAL DIRECTIVE AND IT SAYS TO FEDERAL COURTS, NOT BEING TIED DOWN WITH SOME OF THESE POSSESSION CHARGES THAT THEY MAY OVERLOOK THAT AND
THEY DO NOT SAY THEY CAN DO THAT AS, IT DOES NOT SAY THEY CAN GO TO A COMMITTEE OUTREACH CENTRE WHICH IS PUBLICLY FUNDED AND USE DRUGS. AND SHAME ON THIS GOVERNMENT FOR SAYING OR BLAMING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN IT’S NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND BLAME ANYBODY BUT DEAL WITH THE
PROBLEM AND THEY DO NOT DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. UNLESS THE THEME THAT’S BEING CARRIED BY THIS GOVERNMENT SINCE THE LAST ELECTION IN PARTICULAR AND NOW THERE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE — I’M HEARING ARROGANT, I’M HEARING OUT OF TOUCH. THEY HAVE THEIR PENSIONS NOW AND DON’T CARE AND ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THEMSELVES.
I’M NOT GOING TO SAY ALL OF THEM BEARS A COUPLE OF THEM THAT HAVE GOOD INTENTION AND GOT IN GOVERNMENT AND I TRULY BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE TO PARTITION TO SAY ANYTHING SO INSTEAD OF STANDING UP FOR CONSTITUENTS THEY’D RATHER STAND BEHIND THEIR
PARTY AND THAT’S A SHAME. THAT’S SOMETHING I WILL NEVER DO. IF I TOLD MY DISTRICT IF I EVER DO THAT GIVE ME A GOOD SWIFT KICK. I BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE A REQUIREMENT AND A DUTY TO STAND UP FOR CONSTITUENTS AND THE NEEDS THEY HAVE. AND WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR
MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS. AND IT’S REALLY SAD. I’M SURE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS HAD PHONE CALLS FROM A CONSTITUENT OR EVEN SOMEONE FROM OUTSIDE OF THEIR AREA, MAYBE THERE MLA ISN’T HELPING SO THEY WILL CALL ANOTHER ONE OF AN ISSUE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS. THAT’S WHY AM PASSIONATE ABOUT IS.
I AM BROUGHT INTO THESE PEOPLE’S LIVES BY THESE ISSUES AND I FEEL THEIR PAIN BUT I DON’T FEEL ALL OF THEIR PAIN AND CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TSE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS GO THROUGH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WHENEVER THEY HAVE SOMEONE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ABUSE AND THEY CAN’T FIND
THE PROGRAMMING THEY REQUIRE. SO IN THE PAST I’VE SENT A CONSTITUENT, AND THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE THEIR MAIL SENT AND ONE WENT IN TO GET A VOLUNTARY ID AND THEY HAD TO HAVE A MAILING ADDRESS AND A USED IT AS THEIR POINT OF ADDRESS. AND THAT’S FINE.
IT SHOULD BE WORKING THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO FIND THEMSELVES DOWN AND OUT WHO ARE SEEKING SOME HELP. BUT NOW I CANNOT SEND ANYONE TO THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE OF THE OPEN DRUG USE AND CRIME AND PUTTING THEIR OWN LIVES IN JEOPARDY. AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I MAKING UP.
I HEAR THIS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA IT’S NOT JUST A CHARLOTTETOWN ISSUE, IT’S AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE. AND UNTIL THIS GOVERNMENT DECIDES THAT THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH THE CORE ROOT OF THE ISSUES,, NOTHING’S GOING TO BE DONE. SO JUST THROW TOO MANY DOLLARS ADDED, PUTTING IT INTO THE PROPOSED PARK.
IN WITH THOSE WHO ARE IN TEMPORARY HOUSING. AND IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. WHY WOULD YOU TAKE INDIVIDUALS WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN’T FIND A PLACE TO STAY SO THEY STAY THERE AT THE SHELTER AND ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME COMPOUND WITH INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN
CRIME, TRYING TO SEEK SUPPORT. AND THEY ARE ALL COMBINED INTO ONE. THAT’S NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM. PUTTING THEM IN THE COMPOUND, MAYBE PUT A WOODEN FENCE UP. MAYBE THAT’S WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT WANTS. AND IT’S REALLY DISHEARTENING TO SEE HOW THIS IS EVOLVING. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING
SEEN, AND BEING HEARD AND BEING KNOWN TO BE AFFECTED BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE WHO WERE NOW ON THE STREETS. BECAUSE THE OUTREACH CENTRE HAS MADE IT CONVENIENT. AND THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE. COME HERE FROM NOVA SCOTIA AND NEW BRUNSWICK, OF THOSE WHO CAME FOR THOSE VERY REASONS AND I
WOULD SAY IF ANY MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE WENT OUT TO THE STREETS AND ASKED WHERE ARE YOU FROM YOU WILL GET A LOT MORE THAN 5 PERCENT FROM THE MANAGEMENT. AND THEY TELL YOU THE SAME. WORD GETS AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE ATLANTIC REGION THAT THEY WILL TAKE CA,
WE WILL GIVE YOU NEEDLES AND CRACK PIPES AND WHATEVER YOU WANT. AND WHEN SOMEONE ASKS US WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN BLAME IT ON THE CITY POLICE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THE ISSUES. THIS GOVERNMENT MADE A DECISION TO PUT THAT CENTRE THERE AND
MADE A DECISION TO I GUESS CONTINUE FUNDING A CENTRE THAT IS ENABLING ISLANDERS WHO ARE AFFECTED WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, SHAME ON EVERYONE WHO MADE THAT DECISION. IT JEOPARDIZES PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE COMMUNITY OF WELL-BEING. CHILDREN CAN’T EVEN GO OUT IN THEIR YARD WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS
GOING AROUND FIRST LOOKING FOR NEEDLES. PARENTS CAN’T SEND THEIR KIDS TO THE LOCAL PARK BECAUSE OF NEEDLES. WE HEARD IT HERE, TEACHERS NEED TO GO AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY LOOKING FOR NEEDLES. ON SCHOOL PROPERTY BEFORE THE STUDENTS ARE ALLOWED TO GO OUT. THIS IS 2023. IT BLOWS MY MIND THIS IS
HAPPENING HERE ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND THIS GOVERNMENT HAS ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. IT’S A SHAME THAT ISLANDERS PUT THEIR TRUST IN THEIR MEMBER TO BE ELECTED WITH SOME MEMBERS WHO HAVE BASICALLY TURNED ON THEIR CONSTITUENT AND SAID IT’S NOT HAPPENING IN THEIR BACKYARD. SO LET’S LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS.
AND LET’S PUT IT IS DOWN THE ROAD WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. SO I THINK AND I’VE SAID IT BEFORE IF OPEN DRUG USE WAS PERMITTED BY ANY OTHER JURISDICTION ACROSS CANADA IT WOULD BE A NATIONAL NEWS. SO WE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY NATIONAL MEDIA AND THE MINISTER SAYS IT’S LEGAL.
HE DOESN’T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT A DIRECTIVE IS. AND IN THAT AREA, AND I JUST SAID, IT’S JUST THIS. THEY DON’T LISTEN. THEY DON’T LISTEN TO THE OPPOSITION WHO IS ASKING QUESTIONS, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A STRAIGHT ANSWER SINCE THIS SESSION STARTED. SO WHETHER IT’S THE CURRENT MINISTER OR THOSE RESPONSIBLE,
IN THE FIRST PLACE WHO HAVE NOT ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONSHmátátyH THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. WHO MADE A DECISION TO PUT AN OUTREACH CENTRE IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO SCHOOLS? IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA? WHO WOULD CHOOSE THAT LOCATION? AND NOW THEIR TALK ABOUT PUTTING IT DOWN PARK STREET WITHOUT
CONSULTING THE NEIGHBOURHOOD, AND NO CONSIDERATION FOR IT. UNTO CARES OF CHARLOTTETOWN DOESN’T GRANT A VARIANTS. WE WILL GO AROUND THEM. SO THE PLAN IS TO GO TO PARK STREET. AND THAT’S THE PLAN. BUT IS THERE A PLAN PUT FORWARD TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SEEKING SUPPORT FROM THIS GOVERNMENT OR DIRECTION FROM
THIS GOVERNMENT. WE TAKE EVERYBODY AND PUT THEM IN ONE COMPOUND AND LET THEM DEAL WITH IT. EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT WE TALK ABOUT TO IS AFFECTED BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, EVERYONE HAS A FAMILY MEMBER SPEAKER. BUT THEY ALL HAVE FAMILY WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY DON’T KNOW
HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM AND THEY GO TO BED AT NIGHT WAITING FOR THAT PHONE CALL. THAT’S A TERRIBLE WAY TO LIVE. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SUPPORT IN PLACE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. AND I HAVE ANOTHER CONSTITUENTS CONSTITUENT WHO WANTS TO GET COUNSELLING FOR THEIR BROTHER WHO IS HOMELESS, NO COUNSELLOR.
NO COUNSELLOR AVAILABLE. WHAT KIND OF SERVICE ARE THEY PROVIDING IF THERE’S NO COUNSELLING AVAILABLE? THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS TO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND HAD NO SUPPORT THAT THE INITIAL INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE THAT. NO COUNSELLOR AVAILABLE. SO WHAT DO I SAY TO THEM? I KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS ADVOCATING ON THEIR BEHALF
BECAUSE THEY HAVE GENUINE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT MUST BE ANSWERS — ANSWERED. NOT AN ANSWER. THEY BLAME SOMODY ELSE, AND IT’S NEVER THEIR FAULT, THEY WILL NEVER TAKE ANY — THEY WILL TAKE CREDIT FOR ANYTHING THEY THINK AS POSITIVE BUT THOSE DAYS OF TAKING CREDIT ARE GETTING VERY LIMITED.
MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, WITH CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED IN PARTICULAR THE OPEN DRUG USE IS WRONG AND IT’S WRONG WHEN YOU HAVE THE GENERAL MANAGER REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE THREATENING THEM IF THEY SPEAK OUT. I’VE BEEN CONTACTED BY THESE INDIVIDUALS. THEY GET A PHONE CALL OR SOME
KIND OF STINK I. WHICH I RECEIVED ONE DAY HERE IN THE HOUSE. >> ONLY ONE DAY. >> THEY TALK ABOUT CONVERSATIONS THAT EITHER INDIVIDUALS OR POLITICIANS HAVE HAD IN THE PAST. WHERE’S THE TRUST AND THAT? THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NOT. THERE’S NO SHAME OVER THERE. THEY THINK THIS IS — IT’S GOING
TO GO BACK TO TURN AND IT’S NOT HAPPENING. AND THAT’S A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. BASICALLY, WHAT THE INTENT WAS IS TO URGE THE GOVERNMENT TO PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY AND OVERALL WELL-BEING OF CLIENTS. IT’S NOT BEING ADDRESSED AND IT’S A SHAME I NEED TO ASK THE GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING.
OF COURSE EMOTION ISN’T BINDING, IT’S JUST ASKING THEM FOR A SMALL POSSESSION. IT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S LAW. BUT IT’S TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THESE COMMUNITIES GET THE SUPPORT THAT THEY DESERVE. AND THEY DESERVE TO HAVE ANSWERS INTO KNOW HOW THIS GOVERNMENT PLANS TO ATTACK THESE ISSUES AND
HOW THEY WILL ADDRESS THEM IN THE FUTURE. WE ALL KNOW THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. OUR POPULATION GROWTH HAS EXPANDED AND ALL OF THAT IS PART OF OUR POPULATION GROWTH. BUT IT’S PRIORITY. WE TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE OUTREACH CENTRE AND I’VE ASKED THE MINISTER SEVERAL TIMES FOR INCIDENT REPORTS.
INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. AND THEY’VE NEVER SEEN THEM. THE MINISTER OF HOUSING DIDN’T SEE THEM. AND MAYBE IT IS STAFF AND THEY WILL PRIORITIZE SO WHERE ASADA PRIORITY WITH THIS MINISTER? THAT’S SOMETHING I’D LIKE TO KNOW, NOT GOING TO GET AN ANSWER WITH THAT. SO WITH JUST A WEEKEND OF
STABBING, THE POTENTIAL — IDOL THANK IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL BOMBING BUT THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT WITH PROPANE WITH MANY CRIMES AND MANY FIGHTS. ALTERCATIONS. AND WHERE ARE THOSE INCIDENT REPORTS? WE’VE BEEN ASKING AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW AND BE REASSURED THIS GOVERNMENT IS BEING REACTIVE TO WHAT’S HAPPENING ON THAT SITE.
I HAVE — I’M NOT CONVINCED THEY HAVE A PLAN TO PROVIDE SAFETY, WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WOULD CONVINCE ME THIS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE THIS. , THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF CLIENTS WHO GO THERE TRUSTING THESE PROGRAMS PUT FORWARD BY THE GOVERNMENT ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY REQUIRE.
ARE THEY RECEIVING THEM. ABSOLUTELY NOT AND THEY CAN’T EVEN GET OFF THE SIDEWALK AND ARE BEING OFFERED DRUG. FIRST AND YOU ARE ASKED IS WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AND THAT’S NOT WHAT THE ATTENDANT IS FOR. AND IT’S STILL HAPPENING TODAY. AND THERE IS NO ONE THAT CAN
TELL ME OPEN DRUG USE IS NOT BEING TOLERATED BECAUSE I KNOW DIFFERENTLY. AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT. CONTINUE TO ALLOW THESE FAMILIES. TO LIVE A HORRIBLE TORTUROUS LIFE BECAUSE IT’S NOT HAPPENING. SOMEBODY ELSE’S BACKYARD. I WILL NOT STAND FOR THAT. I’M TWO HOURS AWAY FROM CHARLOTTETOWN.
AND I CAN FEEL THE IMPACTS. AND I AM PROBABLY THE MOST — I’M SURE IF I’M HEARING IT EVERYONE ELSE’S. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE CURRENT OPERATION. ALL COMMUNITIES SAY THERE IS THE NEED AND THERE SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT AND A SENSE OF URGENCY TO MAKE SURE THESE PROBLEMS ARE DEALT WITH.
THE SAD REALITY IS I DON’T SEE ANY OF THAT HAPPENING. AND I’M NOT GETTING THE RESPONSE ISLANDERS DESERVE TO HAVE. AND THEY KNOW WHENEVER THEY OR THEIR FAMILY SPEAK SOME ASSISTANCE, THEY ARE GOING TO GO ON TO ONE OF THE RESPONSES. AND IT HELPS THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE ADDICTION.
AND THEY FINALLY REACH OUT FOR HELP. AND WITH THE LION, THEY SAY SORRY I CAN TAKE YOUR CALL. AND WHAT IS THAT, SINGING, THAT YOU HAVE NO VALUE AND WE DON’T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND THERE’S NO PRIORITY FOR THIS GOVERENT TO HELP ANY ISLANDER WHICH IS CLEAR. THAT THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT
ISLANDERS BECAUSE WE’RE HEARING IT. >> The Speaker: IF YOU COULD PLEASE ADJOURN DEBATE WITH THE SECOND OR. >> I WILL ADJOURN DEBATE SECONDED BY THE MEMBER OF CHARLOTTETOWN WEST ROYALTY. >> I MOVE SECONDED THAT THIS HOUSE ADJOURN UNTIL NOVEMBER 29th AT 1:00 PM. >> HAVE A GOOD EVENING FOLKS.