“25Km/H Is Too Slow!” | Are UK/EU eBike Laws Wrong?

We’ve all felt it, you’ll be pedalling up a fire road or along a flat piece of trail and the limiter hits you like a 50mph wind. It seems impossible to get any faster without the assistance from the motor, but do we really need to go any faster? Steve Jones has employed the help of ex-pro road cyclist Isaac Mundy to see if the 25km/H limit is any slower than someone on an analogue bike.

⏱ Timestamps ⏱
00:00 – Intro
00:51 – What Is The Average Speed Of Pro Riders?
02:28 – Test 1 | 400m Flat Race (On Boost)
04:57 – Test 2 | 400m Flat Race (On Eco)
06:40 – Test 3 | 1610m Uphill Race (On Boost)
10:49 – Test 4 | 400m Flat Race (On Gravel eBike)
12:06 – Conclusion

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Many of you well actually many of us especially those who live in Europe would like to see the Restriction speed of Ean raised from 25 kilom an hour up to 32 km an hour which they have in many parts of the USA um and why not after all we all want

To get to that really cool single track as fast as possible but let’s not kid ourselves because that limiter doesn’t actually affect our descending and in many instances doesn’t actually affect Are Climbing too much either now where it actually might matter is on the flat

Which is why I have got with me a very fit person on a mountain bike so the aim of the video is to see how long can I stay with a mountain biker on the flat and also at what gradient might I be able to pull back the

Time okay at this point I have dragged over from gmbn former pro roie and World Cup cross country men bike rider and also a maths expert Isaac Newton sorry Mendy Isaac uh average speed of the tour to France I mean St flat stages they’ll sit

At like 50 km an hour a lot of the day they’re honestly flying the speed especially since covid the speed of the pelaton is insane but that’s got the that’s obviously got the advantage of the the wind resistance from the pelaton and also skinny tires M 25 28 right okay

Obviously mountain bike going be different what about World Cup cross country racing such a lot slower short track they might be doing 30 but uh with the amount of climbing they’re doing in that Olympic discipline it might be between kind of 15 and 20 km an hour the

Ones I did right okay because they’re just there stacking so much elevation now that’s an average speed average okay so what I suggest we do just to get a benchmark going to see if I can actually stick with you because I’m guessing that this what we have here folks is a

Standard quartermile drag that’s 440 uh yards 400 m um to see at what point because obviously I’m probably going to go off first yeah you’re going to zoom away off the line but I think you’re going to quickly get back and when I hit that 25 kph limiter I reckon

You’re going to pull away that’s my guess anyway that’s my wish that’s what I’m hoping for right let’s go have a look okay Isaac I think what we need to do is like ride sat down but as fast as possible like as if we’re trying to

Replicate a ride to the next uh next down on stage yeah so SS going to count it in I’m in boost mode folks I’m in boost mode my legs all right this is going to be interesting I’ve never done this before count it in then all right 5 4 3 2 1

Go oh I’m Steve’s pulling away I need to get up to that magic 25k hour mark as I thought I’m ahead and we’re nearly there and now I feel off the Speed 32 km an hour 33 km an hour oh there you go there he goes 33 oh that’s just ridiculous I’m

Probably not going to be able to sustain this obviously my bike is slightly heavier so now fading fading down to 26 yeah 25 there you go he’s just cruising that I think we went a bit hard there I’m like uh it’s a qu mile dash CU you know I think that wasn’t your standed sort of transition to the trail head uh probably went off a bit too hard

I was probably like yeah 50 m ahead of you but you soon pulled back but that was too fast I think uh quick summary of that is boost mode you wouldn’t ride on the flat and boost mode um the the difference over over a quarter mile 2 seconds probably we were

Going pretty fast but I’m glad you said that I am it’s it’s so noticeable the acceleration you just gone those like first two pedal strokes but then when we are up to speed it yeah it doesn’t actually feel that different really like I don’t think I’d do a transition flat

Stage at that intensity no I think I would actually I mean I was doing I was doing 32k which is too fast obviously I couldn’t sustain that on a 23 Kilo bike no I probably couldn’t sustain that on a na light the not saying all the right

Things I guess the thing is you’re on Boost then weren’t you and probably most it’s a good start but most of the time you’re going to be rolling around maybe on a trailer eco mode right you’re not going to be rinsing that boost not between the trail heads certainly not on

The flat so okay well should I should we give it another going I go to Eco give me another chance to then are you ready yeah 3 two 1 oh that’s different is it once I’m up to 27 it doesn’t actually matter actually doesn’t matter what mode I’m in so oh I’m just

Cruising all right it’s probably 2 seconds over A4 mile okay I’m done with that he’s keeping going on the flat Eco I’m doing 22 23 km an hour is plenty I’m not rinsing the battery I’m not really that far behind a mountain bike all right you got that uh so that

Time uh well that was a bit different uh you definitely got ahead of me quicker yeah I think my average speed is were 19 20 km an hour I think that is more representative I mean let’s face it Eco should be a mode you use on a trail like

That but nevertheless I was behind right yeah and it did feel a lot more cruisy for me to be honest so I think in order to pull back you need to go harder for longer really harder for longer well funny should say that because being a gentleman of a certain age I do

Frequently get messages on my Facebook and Instagram suggesting the very thing welcome to the Valley now I think what we have here is one mile and I think this this sort of flat semi climb is represents what you would probably do on a ride and it’s 1 mile long and it’s

Just under 100 ft climbing over that distance so it’s not much no that’s that’s the geese by the way which kind of works in my favor a little bit you know if it was a really hard time I think you’d have time to put a kettle on

Before I was there but it’s going to be interesting this cuz it does roll and I can try and Claw my way back into it without busting too much of a gut and knowing that Isaac is a racer he will want to call I want it it’s not a race right

Okay uh I’m now in boost mode and and what what I’m going to do is I’m going to literally what I I blew up from the first one I’m actually going to try and try and gauge this a little bit better than just to Twist the knife at the end

And right are you ready 3 2 1 3 2 1 he’s off like a bullet I think you want it oh I’m just I need to just keep under oh this is too equal this is too equal I’m in boost mode I knew you have me there I’m going to keep it under 25 as you can see I’m on the

Limiter even on the climb he is such a racer oh pulled the head Momentarily I think it’s elbow to Elbow here and actually not kid in this is for Real oh God I think the 20 something’s got me Ah one mile 100 ft vertical you had me that’s the difference between an athlete and an old guy but I will s when it’s when it kicks up I’m slipping like it’s really hard but then you just keep if you can maintain that effort as soon

As you get fast it’s just you just creep away I think so I was like in I I was like in and out of that limit sorry i’ got a league of gentlemen nose bleed on uh excuse me folks sorry for that uh that’s just the physicality of that

Wasn’t expec I wasn’t expecting to do an interval training today I generally thought I’d beat you on on one so did I so here’s the question you know your maths right yeah so there’s got to be a Tipping Point At what point even with the 25 km limiter I’m still going to be

Under the limit where I’m going to have be at Advantage what kind of I’d like to know what gradient it is yeah be interesting that because it we can work it out with um weight basically the extra weight the gravitational potential energy as and then the gradient in terms

Of the the rate of V or the rate you’re climbing as opposed to your forward speed to get the balance of the extra power versus extra weight Arrow we’re kind of the same and doesn’t really make a difference for an El he’s definitely said all Air a are about the same oh I

Love that’s great with intolerances cuz I got my big jacket on so like I got my two big jackets on too there’s a it’s fairly fairly straightforward bit arithmetic that I’m pretty puffed so it’s you know be on me right now should I tell you the arithmetic you need to

Know yeah you need to know the arithmetic on my rigid bike oh let’s have you okay Isaac here is my weapon it’s a rigid weapon Canyon Grail oh yes oh yes I I think let’s not mess around I think certainly just get your get your gopr on

Get your mindset on because we are going to go against the clock quarter mile dash I think my day just got taken up a gear right and Isaac uh track stand engaged Road style count us in count us in 3 2 1 Go it’s okay it’s okay I think it’s a red pill blue pill moment okay got it I got it I got it I tell you what so I was just just been sick and the Hedge back there red pill blue pill moment well whatever it is it’s affected you like that you want

Some of that but folks to to return to the question is 25 kph too slow this is obviously people outside the US um I think he possibly is in certain situations but in general I don’t think it’s as you say I don’t think it takes away the fun for youand but folks let’s

Know your thoughts on it maybe we should work harder to get um the limit increased too cuz this 25 like it’s quite old legislation as well isn’t it it has been around for a long time the 25k an hour mark and it maybe it hasn’t been maybe the modern ebike needs a

Little bit of reexamining interesting words from an almost e by convert would you like to take it away oh would I would I take it away Isaac I’d go that way if I was you a