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N Welcome how to start this show tonight welcome  to another episode of gate s International your   number one English source for all things course  that’s how we start the show always whatever   happens um absolutely shocking night tonight  for liago football club 5 n heavy defeat in  

Fryberg nightmare nightmare scenario personally  I I was late getting home from work with the   early kickoff and it was already 2-0 before I  put my foot in the door so here we are um we   got humiliated by balk in the Greek League 4-2  at home tonight it’s in Europe 5 nil I don’t  

Think even even the most pessimistic oakos fan  could have imagined just how bad it would get   tonight yeah I don’t know how you feel about  that you’re right because when I saw the the   first goal like super quickly into the game it it  immediately reminded me of one of those night in  

Which everything goes wrong like because we lost  five N I think went off injured uh like there   is not not a single positive point from a game  like tonight it only kills every every drop of   confidence we could have on the squad because it  was it was already fragile after that power close  

You mentioned before but now like it’s I don’t  know it’s I don’t know how to recover from that   not because freborg is a it’s a it’s a good team  we all know it’s a good team serious team good  

Club but losing like that 5 n not even a not even  a situation during whole game I don’t know it’s traumatizing yeah um and actually I was reading  I was reading um Martinez’s comments before the  

Game and before the game this is what he had to  say he said olos has improved in relation to the   first game and is more mature and prepared we are  a team that wants to play in this kind of match we  

Want to show our best [Music] Fai that’s what he  said before the game and I was wondering whether   or not there would be comments um post match  and I’ve seen that Santiago Hess has made some  

Comments apologizing to the fans so none of the  group players come out uh Hess has come out and   talk to the press and uh Martinez talked to the  press as well and uh I think the the media tried  

To back him into the corner obviously and they  even asked him having seen the result today what   would you have done different and his response  was along the lines of anything I say right now  

Is an excuse so uh you know we got a lot again I  think we’ve got a lot to talk about tonight um I   don’t even know if it’s really worth analyzing a  game where you’ve lost 5 nil but I think tonight’s  

Exposed certain things about how how we went about  business in the summer how we built the squad um   so that’s something something we can talk about  um it’s I mean tomorrow is December tomorrow is   December and uh We’ve we’ve we’ve said since the  beginning of the Season that this is a transition  

Year um that you know we need to be patient and  uh you know Martinez has been saying all those   things as well from the beginning of the Season  that we’re building a bridge and that to to get  

To the other side it takes time but you know it’s  it’s December now and you know there are question   marks over not just the style of play but more  does he actually have the right players to play  

The way that he wants and you know what kind of  what kind of um stop gaps might we need in January   do we need pieces in January should we start  promoting young kids into the team um lots to talk  

About don’t really know where to start but yeah I  i’ I’ve seen one comment I would like to uh jump   on to it’s about the leaders because when you lose  five nil it’s it also shows that when you concede  

The first one or two goal maybe that’s where you  go down mentally and we saw it last season because   we did not have that much leaders in the team but  we do had we do have more leaders last year than  

This year because we had Socrates we had enila we  had also Val but it wasn’t barely playing we have   we had aabi that was on better shape if I can say  that but when you look at this team now who’s the  

Leader funist is the captain that’s true but who’s  the real leader of the team that’s the that’s a   question mark to use your words like who’s going  who’s going to step up when when it’s needed like  

To talk to the fan to talk to the locker room to  say to say during the before the game at halim at   the end of the game that what the team needs to  do uh how you can start a game for example like  

P a game like that has wasn’t to be started  like that same as tonight and it’s difficult   to replace a hole like that in the team because  you don’t find leaders uh in the Winter Market  

In my opinion you might have like one chance  to find him but it’s very difficult to find in January yeah uh I I agree with you I agree with  everything you said um I think what what really  

Bothers me as we get into December is the things  that we’ve been seeing um in the last week or two   I’m I’m sorry to go into this narrative but I  do more and more start to get the feeling that  

The club’s organizational structure sorry if I’m  stating the obvious but I’m just going to State   it it just feels like olos isn’t the priority when  you see the news about the ownership buying Intero   a uh new sporting director out of nowhere and no  communication from the club to the fans whatsoever  

Just all all of a sudden these changes bringing  in a guy I mean you know this this guy Alves he   might have very good credentials um I don’t know  him his background personally I know that he has  

Strong links to to George Mendes I don’t think  that’s necessarily a good thing for the club   but I see I see us dropping 20 million to invest  into a Portuguese club but I don’t really see us  

Dropping 20 million necessarily to do what’s NE  you know what needs to be done for our club and   actually it’s not just about the money it’s the  overall strategy and and the plan it’s just there  

Seemed to be a strategy at the beginning of the  year which was we’re going to rebuild from the   back room uh you know AO left the back room staff  there new manager new technical team uh new Scout  

Navaro under on cordon and they seem to be laying  some some strong foundations and then you you see   when when you see these kinds of changes just  happen like that out of nowhere in November you   can’t help but just ask yourself like what the  hell is going on behind the scenes has something  

Gone wrong um it’s it it it doesn’t show stability  and belief in a plan that was put together to   reshape and rebuild the team you don’t you don’t  start it’s like we’re building the bridge that   that Martinez has been talking about building  the bridge and then we’re kind of chopping it  

Down and going back that’s that’s kind of what it  feels like yeah and can we believe that like it   came all all of a sudden like that in December  because probably it was on the on the pipes I  

Don’t know if it works in English but probably  the Rio a things was going on since months maybe   so there is no surprise like when you think about  whole The Narrative we’ve been fed about Cordon uh  

The way he was supposed to change the club the  way of operating and stuff just for him to be   like shipped back to the three clubs position in  December does not make sense to me and I do not  

Believe that Martinez is uh not please but it’s  difficult for him to work in a situation like that   like we all know like multi- ownership in football  apart from olympos is a very difficult thing and  

If you’re not the top club of the pyramid you  will probably be stuck in a situation in which   you don’t evolve that much you get the player that  come from above and you try to develop them but  

You don’t have any identity left so for Martinez I  maybe I’ve seen I’ve seen a comment before saying   that maybe it got worse when Cordon did not  come on a daily basis to rendy for example when  

He moved to Spain because he had this personal  issue and maybe that link on a daily basis that   was valuable for Martinez broke and that’s why  it’s become more difficult for him that’s not an   excuse but maybe it has has to be some explanation  that’s another question mark as you said before  

Yeah yeah no I mean we can’t we don’t know the  details of what’s happened inside uh obviously   but um but even still like you know you can  start to make an evaluation of the moves that  

We’ve made this summer how the roster was built  who was bought in um and in particular for these   kinds of games in Europe and to talk a little  bit about today’s game is not the first time   that we’ve seen him play that through three-man  Midfield and it worked well against West Ham  

When we played them at home or be it like let’s be  real when we played them at home West Ham fielded   a week inside and we did play well um obviously  like we won that game quite quite comfortably I  

Would say in the end um but but you see in this  kind of game the way that they just cut through   us like a knife through butter in the center of  the Park there’s nobody there’s nobody acting as  

A shield in front of the defense like there seems  to be this kind of notion that Santiago Hess is a   six but it’s clear that he’s not he’s absolutely  not a six and neither’s Maddy and neither’s Maddy  

And and you know he decided not to play ibor today  there was a lot of talk about ibor playing as a as   an anchor man that would drop into the the defense  and you know be a third Central Defender and then  

Move up as a as a defensive midfielder we didn’t  see that today and and frankly like you look at a   lot of the signings that we’ve made this summer  um fera disappeared for for two months now he’s  

Had injury um against was it offie he came off at  halim and then he got injured in training again   same thing then came back and got injured again  then there’s keny and he B I has been injured  

He’s been you know on the fringes of the team uh  Kenny who like keny and ior to be fair they helped   us in the qualifying stage but since that’s true  since since the group started and and you know the  

League started getting into it the the their their  levels dropped too or just you know in ior’s case   he hasn’t been there at all um and Hess Hess looks  tired man yeah course I don’t know how many games  

He played in Argentina this season but I would  imagine like 30 or like 40 appearances I don’t   know if he’s like getting accumulated fatigue but  he doesn’t look anything like the player that we  

We were admiring a month or two ago the the worst  thing for me is that apart from the signing that   were from some of them like missed it’s the fact  that we did not replac players that looked at the  

End of of a cycle like H because we took K Kenny  played too much I’m not saying Orga is is worse   than H but the fact is Kenny played too much  and compared to O it’s a done grade also the  

Fact that we don’t have a proper number six uh we  had like bakis and bakis was at the very end of a   cycle he needed to leave and that’s good for him  left but those are the player we did not really  

Replace and I’m not even mentioning Anda which  is the stranger case for me because he’s out of   Club in December he refused to to to renew but  it should have been a smarter smart smart move  

For all parts because you you can’t blame only the  center backs if they are not protected as you said   before because it’s not only uh the defense fault  if you consider goal the the the the game against  

Par the game like night it shows that Martinez in  terms of tactic he has an issue to solve and I I’m   not sure will be able to solve it because as much  as the situation will get worse he would have more  

Pressure to get the results so he will probably I  don’t know you know GRE football can be sometimes   especially when p and panikos became better sides  you you you don’t have you can’t drop points you   can’t avoid you need to avoid dropping points so  the pressure gets bigger and that’s where you make  

Mistakes in the lineup so that I don’t know the  the number six issue for me I is bigger than the   center back one because it’s we need a player like  yamy Anyway the one we did not really replaced  

Is G because he was a six an eight he scored  goals he had a very good passing ability but   even bakis man when you think about it would you  feel Bak in this team if you wear Martinez right now you have to you have no choice  you probably have no choice even s

Maybe I I I don’t know um funnily enough I heard  that BK had a good game for the national team   against France I think he was playing against he  was playing with galanopoulos in in Midfield and  

Had a good game but it’s really just a question  of chemistry and pair like pairings in Midfield   and I feel like there there just something missing  like I think for example that if you had enilla  

Like playing the the six row and he had Madie and  Hess in front of him I think that would look quite   nice like I think sometimes you know and Villa  would be criticized that he’s a bit he’s a bit  

Slow obviously you know he’s getting on age wise  but in terms of his like professionalism even like   leadership on on the pitch passing range excuse  me bless you we we thank you we don’t have that   like Maddie and Hess cannot provide that level of  distribution and calmness on the ball that that  

He had um ideally you want somebody younger like  with legs but you know those kinds of players they   they cost a lot of money it’s is the same it’s the  same when you look up front we look quite impotent  

Like it like if you start comparing to the team  you know 2019 team with up front in his prime   for us it’s depressing yeah you don’t have a you  don’t have a kid up front there’s no there’s no  

One up front threatening that it’s like it’s hard  enough the ball isn’t getting to the striker and   you know El kabi isn’t somebody that can create  for himself um but you know I think another thing  

To talk about and maybe this is a reveal um of a  conversation that we had this summer I won’t say   who we had it with but it was someone in the team  and we were told there are too many loonies there  

Are too many players that have come in on loan and  that’s a problem and the other thing we were told   is that if you want to bring in a good Striker you  have to pay for it did we pay for a striker this  

Summer well if you combine the wages of y vage and  alab maybe yeah but at the end of it no no no no   no to be fair like we didn’t we didn’t pay money  transfer fee for L but that was yeah that’s true  

Yeah it’s it’s yeah in in football you you need  to pay to have quality well of course you can   make mistake like Nuru because we paid for him  but yeah yeah for a striker position for me is  

Okay it’s the fact that we don’t have any other  solution because your vage doesn’t look like uh   uh nine for me is probably more like someone  like fortunis and larabi well is close to the  

To the end of the of his chapter with olympos so  we we made too many gambles on it because we got   uh [ __ ] by the fact that Baku decided to go  to Dubai because otherwise with bakambu on this  

Team the issue would have be solved for me but we  we had too many holes to fix because I’ve seen a   comment saying like it does it take more than one  year to fix the the [ __ ] we did last season and  

I agree with that because the squad was so so  so weak in many areas that we we needed uh too   many things to uh to solve but yeah that’s why  I’m just coming back to the enila situation I’m  

Not saying that we should have kept Ena like that  but sometime when you need a smarter and easier   solution you just have to keep what you have in  the squad it’s it’s basic but sometimes like maybe  

The club did not want to go full on envela because  of the L renewal because he renewed and turned to   be like uh we we the renewal was a mistake but the  fact is I’m still missing illa and I won’t change  

My mind about that because the passing skill  he has is missing for number six even at this age that was never the issue with with uh with  enilla for me like in terms of the passing range  

There were some other like defects they say but  um I think AR’s just joined us as well yeah Ari   you there can you guys hear me yeah loud and clear  oh fantastic okay whatever the issue was it solved  

Itself uh yeah a little deflated I don’t know  how far you guys have gotten along but uh we’re   moving along we’re moving along swiftly I don’t  know what you’ve heard um of our conversation   so far but yeah tell us tell us what’s on your  mind we’re here for therapy together with all  

The other fans or we could just go and have a look  at some of the comments that have come in as well   well let see it seems like I got called out once  already galti where is Adi that kept saying wait  

For cordone to cook now that the meal is burnt  so I also said that for me this was a two-year   project so I said that a lot and there I do have  I do have a lot of issues you know there’s it’s  

Not like I think things are going extremely  well I don’t see a scenario in which I think   uh Martinez should be fired tonight uh if there’s  there’s more that needs to be done for for that  

To happen one uh we don’t qualify for conference  League If he if he shits the bed against uh boska   topa he’s gone uh we have very winnable fixtures  in the Greek League ahead of us before the break  

He has to win those there’s no there’s no Cup game  against bonath Nikos that’s been postponed so like   December has to win everything you don’t win you  don’t win everything then it’s uh then it’s it’s   a huge problem then comes then comes winter and  we know that there’s three maybe four pieces that  

Need to come in the the the my my my thing here  is I don’t know you know a everyone that’s upset   with gordone and Martinez some people don’t accept  the the problem the problems and the and the the  

Monetary budget issues that we face this summer  that’s fine you don’t want to face that that’s   fine but but there’s other problems that we had to  get rid of and stuff we have to build this winter   is extremely important for us assuming we get into  conference League which was what I expected and  

We’re still either behind B bathan AOS by a point  or pull ahead of him there’s no reason really to   fire the coach the problem is in the performances  this team has not been playing well on the field  

Even in the last couple games that we’ve won bosi  didn’t look good needed to be bailed out by kosas   funis to win that game uh the game before that uh  AAS AAS has uh we again had to get bailed out by  

Costas fortunis there’s major fixed in the winter  four four positions I I just said before it’s it   look I we’re we’re in in a liakos right there’s  not really a room for a project unfortunately as  

Much as I say this is a two your project whatever  everybody demands winning you have to win to keep   your job you have to win to continue if we can if  as long as we’re not losing and falling further  

From the top and if we stay in conference League  I think we’re okay then we evaluate what happens   in the winter with the players that come in and  we move on for the rest of the season and see  

What happens I didn’t expect us to win a title  this season I didn’t expect us to win a title I   expected con conference League I didn’t expect us  to win the title I know that doesn’t go the same  

For the majority of fans here the majority of  fans of Alia cos fans demand winning and demand   titles so maybe that is a reason why I guess I’m  not as upset as a lot of people are because my  

Expectations were much lower but that could have  something to do demand is one thing expectation   and being realistic is something else I think we  all we all have our demands uh and expectations   but reality is is sometimes sometimes different  from that and you’ve got to deal with it um you  

Mentioned like I don’t know when you mentioned  we don’t have time for project I don’t know if   you meant like if you meant that about young  players as well but it’s definitely like one   thing that I think I said it about a month ago  after listening to a to an interview that an  

Pugo gave about you know having infinite amounts  of money and you know would he like to have the   money that Chelsea had to spend in the summer  you know I look at our Squad and I look at it  

And I think the way that they’ve thought about it  is let’s bring in all of these quality players on   paper like Soban um pent St scarper like on paper  so buckens made a massive um big money move from  

From Norway to Roma he’s a Norwegian International  Scara was voted best player in Brazil two years in   a row W Liberto dores yada yada yada but you look  at all those players and they’re all like roughly  

Around the same age group you’ve got like five or  six of those players competing for three positions   behind the striker but you don’t really have any  young players that are competing for places and   I feel like one of the things I worry about is  the dressing room like the mood in the dressing  

Room you’ve got too many of those types of players  around the same age group that feel that I should   be playing and a lot of those players are lone  players they know that they’re only there probably   for one season they’re not they don’t give a  [ __ ] about what happens to oakos down down  

The line they haven’t signed long-term contracts  maybe that’s true of some of the others that did   sign long-term contracts too I don’t know but it’s  not healthy like no is not healthy at all the the  

Balance of the squad is isn’t right and and yeah  you know people are asking in the chat what’s your   solution and what do you think we should do and  you know another thing I worry about is uh you  

Know is going to we’re gonna get to January the  transfer window is going to open and we’re going   to Panic by everyone’s going to be like oh we’re  gonna buy uh Jerome Batting Center back we’re  

Gonna buy uh Mario Jardell uh I don’t know you  know we mustn’t I feel like personally this my   personal opinion obviously we mustn’t Panic by  in December um some others in the chat some I’m   sorry last thing some others in the chat they’re  making a lot of parallels with the basketball team  

And it’s perfectly normal because the basketball  team is a health like the club is healthy there’s   a strategy there’s a coach that’s been there for  Four Seasons there’s a core of players that you   know and you they they were calling on barokas  to to sign players but he didn’t do it until he  

Found the right pieces we found NZ mitru long  he’s a Greek player we need a Greek passport   he’s a player that has a Euroleague experience  there’s um uh Philip petrusev like we didn’t   just buy someone for the sake of buying it and I  really worry that you know you look at our Academy  

And there are players like babis Costas and Chris  muakis in Midfield and for me those players they   should be playing with and training with the first  team I would rather those players get chances in  

The first team than go and sign some washed 30 30y  Old up front or in Midfield like what is the point   what is the point no you’re right and that’s why  my solution for me on that two years project maybe  

It’s we know that Martinez is heading toward a  very difficult situation because as AR said before   he basically needs to win every G every game until  the break and we all know it’s very difficult to  

Do it even in Greece even with olympos because  you can drop a point from there to there with a PK   on go mistake who knows and may maybe for me the  solution has to come from the inside I mean like  

Why not putting hiasa on the bench until June you  get rid of the players in the current Squad that   offers nothing it it goes from salak to Scarpa to  to to selling be to make to probably not resign  

Arab because it’s not possible in the the middle  of the season but all those players that offers   nothing like even keni ibor I I wouldn’t put them  out but they have no place in the project and has  

You said we should integrate more young players to  create more competition like it sounds Basics to   say that when when I uh when I see the debates  of football for other clubs it’s done in other  

Clubs since years now like when you have hold in  the the team you have to put young players and   even even someone like verai he needs he needs to  jump in the competition because he’s better than  

Sakan right now F impos not saying it’s better  than sakan in his whole but it’s better he more   useful than sakan fos right now I do believe that  and we have to recreate a squad that operates   normally because otherwise it won’t be a two  years project but it will be like six months  

Project after another six months project project  after another a six- month project because uh at   the end of it if we hand up with Coran with  martinez it’s because we we went too far on   the coach solution like thinking the coach will  solve everything obviously sometimes you will find  

Someone like Martins that is able to improve after  a missed first season but we have to admit at the   end of it that there is only one Martin like he  had qualities he had but what it is while olympos  

Was so huge that I do believe that no one will be  able to do that uh to do that in the in the future   and also the get rid of those player applies for  next summer because we know that pasalakis is out  

Of contract in June Mi is out of contract in June  p is alone fortunis is out of contract uh so many   players like that out of contract and it’s a  big turning point for the club and I hope the  

Club won’t miss it but by hiding adding too many  players in the Winter Market because that’s my   fear we all know marinakis we all know hakos how  oakos works we all know we going to end up with  

Two center backs two number six two Wingers and  10 players in and 10 players out and Costas will   be the future n best client because he will have  no chance with oos we all know that uh martial  

I think I don’t know if you guys discussed this  already because I I actually I agree with all the   points you said but there’s something else that  I find that kind of disturbs me a little bit more   than just like the player quality and the player  situation because I think this also contributes  

To a lot of the anxiety and the the concern around  the team the anger as well uh and I don’t know if   you guys talked about it yet but more the the  communication from the club to the fans uh it  

Is an extremely frustrating situation we talk  about this a lot uh it we talked about this on   the last live show but like this th this result is  like almost kind of goes hand inand with what has   been going on earlier this week with regards to  gordone being announced as this Global director  

Or the global sporting director for the new Mar  nik’s footballing group you know what I mean and   it a lot of a lot of these issues could be D if  this club could learn and excuse my my language  

To [ __ ] communicate it is really stupid it is  really D like how come the club just can’t come   out and say hey this is a rebuild we’re we’re not  expecting to win anything uh or sorry we you can’t  

Ever say you’re not expecting to anything this  is a rebuild there’s going to be bumps in the   road but we’re going to stick through this they  don’t communicate at all they don’t communicate   and and even even more so even more so this like  the situation with Rio aave all of a sudden Gordon  

Is in this other place now we already know that  technically he was in between forest and liakos   to begin with because he was announced to be  in a Consulting role for them just say guys   he’s the sporting director but he’s also he’s  also coordinating things he’s destined for a  

Bigger thing I refuse to believe this Rio a deal  came up out of nowhere it is impossible a deal   of this size to have come up out of nowhere just  say this is going on in the background there we’re  

We’re creating the whatever you want to call  it the M Nikes football group there is going   to be an alignment of goals between the club just  say it you know what people are going to be upset  

No matter what you do people are going to be upset  with you fans are going to be upset fans are going   to say Mighty Nike doesn’t care about the club  fans are going to say this but I I guarantee you  

That if you come out and you say hey if you you  you just say what’s going on you keep everybody   in the loop you are going to have people way less  upset in the long run than they are now because  

Right now a lot of the a lot of the anger a lot of  the people that are upset a lot of it comes from   one we don’t know where liakos stands we have  an idea we don’t know where we stand because it  

The way it seems yeah it seems it seems like  we’re on the back burner it seems like we’re   kind of forgotten about with regard to Nottingham  Forest my actual opinions on it are a little bit  

Different but this is how it seems and you do no  favors for yourself as the club when you’re just   vague about everything it doesn’t help anything  then you get into a situation like this and it   all comes and boils over because then it just  seems like nothing’s going right what is going  

On and that for me is it’s not the core problem  there are so many issues that are contributing   to to the problems but like this is this is one  thing that’s so easily solved just communicate  

But that we’re so afraid that we’re so afraid and  this could be a Greek culture thing this could   be uh an administrative culture thing in Greece  whatever the case is we are afraid to admit that  

We are not the force we used to be we are afraid  to admit that we have to take two steps back to   move forward we’re afraid to admit that we’re not  as good as we used to be we’re afraid to admit  

That we have to do something to fix things we’re  afraid to admit that we’re not the top dog right   now and that’s the problem call it pride Cod ego  whatever it is this is one of the core problems  

And it’s such an easily solved thing for me but  that’s that’s one of the things that’s really like   annoying the [ __ ] out of me uh for now I think  you’re right you’re so right and also the thing  

Is on I I do believe that on Multi ownership it’s  difficult for the for the the top one you know to   really say to go public and say what’s the plan  because basically the plan is using the smaller  

Club to make the bigger one better and that’s what  will happen with Olympiacos because we only there   to make notingham better because marinaki is no  HS to make Nottingham better because the premier   league has more publicity has more money has more  everything you compared to the Greek football the  

Only issue is that you can’t feed nothing through  olympos because the two leagues are very different   in terms of level but otherwise the plan uh will  be to use clubs to make all the clubs better and  

Maybe Rave will be the third one because the Le  the club itself is is smaller so maybe they will   get the the first B of player then then we come  to olympos then nothinga maybe but when you see  

The example of clubs that belongs to for example  the city group like have the example of tra it’s a   French Club in which poro was playing before like  they put a Australian coach from Melbourne and it  

Stayed like home of 50 game 50 game without  more than two wins because he belonged to the   city group and once you go into that way of doing  things you There Is No Escape like probably we’re  

Going to see uh if M Martinez gets sacked for  example in the near future we’re going to see   coaches from mes may be linked with the club  of course we’re we’re going to go full gas on this I um before I kind of respond and  compliment I want to say thank you to  

Those of you that have tuned in today uh  to the show it’s a difficult night misery   loves company uh shout out to to all the  fans from GRE that are chiming in on the chat

For keep going in the chat big thank you to to  those of you that are in tonight um we’re here   for you to to share share the pain um I have to  admit I’ve been getting very disillusioned the  

Last couple of weeks with with what’s going on  particularly like you said Ari I mentioned um   you know all of the nonf football stuff that’s  happening around the club a little a little bit   earlier before you joined and you said something  about like um the club doesn’t want to admit that  

Uh you know it’s going to take time or that you  know we’re not what we used to be what one of the   things that worries me a lot is do they actually  realize that even do they like it’s not just so  

It’s one thing to like admit something to go  out and say something but I worry sometimes   that the pride just completely is has blinded  them to the reality and we know what it’s like   in Greece as well excuse me with the referees  all the things that happened behind the scenes  

Excuse me again bloody like all the things that  happen in Epo like they’re it’s true like what’s   happening in the backgrounds of Greek football  is sickening it’s sickening to the very core   like Greek football is rotten to the core but it  it is a great excuse and we should stop freaking  

Hiding behind it like yes we have to deal with  it and yes um there’s a way of communicating in   Greece that’s different from what we’re used to  in our cultures we grew up outside of Greece the   way they’ve learned to communicate is by passing  info on to journalists and then the journalist  

Communicates to the fans and then if you know  fans take it up with the club they say you know   we never said anything there’s no official  statement there’s nothing there’s plausible   deniability and there’s ambiguity just I just pass  some info on to the journalist and you know convey  

The club’s positions but they’re not really Club  positions it’s the way it is but um you know I I love I would like the it’s not even about  Mar nag is coming out and speaking to the   club just the club itself press statements or  anything just communicate to the fans like in  

A in a respectful way like don’t undermine  our intelligence don’t under I don’t maybe   I’m completely maybe I’m going completely  overboard you’re right I I remember the K   saying many times like the the aim is to  win the Europa League and that’s the kind  

Of communication we’re getting from the club you  know what I mean it’s out of the world sometime lomos are you there allow me to jump in how  about that can I can I jump in where’s your  

Camera you’re in you’re live I’m wearing I’m  I’m I’m sitting in my office so I don’t know   if I [ __ ] it okay I’ll turn the camera on okay  everyone so good evening everyone I look typical  

But anyway um about the comms thing I don’t know  why they can’t hire a Communications firm to do   the communications like it’s 200,000 should they  hire you I’m not saying I could do a good job but  

I’m saying I could do a good job but seriously it  doesn’t take a lot to run a solid communication   strategy and raw I there’s so many experts out  there who could tell them how to do it how to  

Build their Communications plan how to do whatever  and it it would make a huge difference but more so   tonight was just so disappointing because I think  I I had a gut feeling that we were on the bad Road  

Let’s say after that P game can I disappoint you  more because p is leading in Frankfurt right now   32 it’s 21 two1 P oh [ __ ] wow going sorry anyway  I and and I I was seeing that bonath iOS is only  

Down by one goal right now in Spain so it’s 3-2  um I think after the the P game right that’s when   everyone started to realize that this is going  to be a lot this is not going to be as good as  

We thought it was I think that West Ham game  was kind of a um it’s like yeah or it’s almost   like when people maybe this is a bit morbid but  when people are about to die they have one good  

Last day you know and you’re like oh my God maybe  they’re going to live and then it’s like no they   just go back and die I know that that sounds  terrible but it does but like we’ve been dying  

Here for for two to three years and then we had  one one last night um in Europe and we’re like   oh God and now we’re ready to sh that that’s a bit  dramatic but um watching tonight was just like it  

It was it’s so surreal how many nights like this  we’ve lived you know the makabi hyper one was like   the first one in my memory in years and I remember  that feeling of just feeling helpless but now that  

First second goal goes in I’m like oh it’s another  one of these nights here we go again you know it’s   like it’s more normal feeling like oos as a club  has gotten used to getting destroyed the past two  

Years 18 months so there’s nothing much to to say  um I know Audi is here um Audio Only and I just   don’t see a path for Martinez to stay honestly I  don’t see the path at this point I think even this  

Game with P was a bit like what was it a bit fluky  goals that changed the score line to make it look   a bit better I think the writing is on the wall  and you watched that game with with panat toos  

And the football was garbage right I think um I I  I haven’t seen the progress I don’t see what he’s   trying to build anymore I think I think I think  that’s the biggest thing for me I don’t see I  

Don’t see anything there like that shows me okay  stick with it it may have been a bad result but   something’s being built I don’t see good football  being played I don’t see cohesion I see like a lot  

Of dead bodies um I see a lot of players who are  on loan who realize they’re not going to play who   look like dead bodies I see a lot of players who  want to leave I see pep beel I think of Richards  

I think of soakin I think yoa shows up he gets  injured we don’t have a backup Striker per Roo   fra what happened to them and you start going  through the list and you go through Jesus what  

Do we have here anymore what what do we have what  do we have we have nothing and all of these loans   from Nottingham almost killed us the the Scarpa  loan the uh the Richard’s loan you know it’s just   it’s killer it’s killer and and not addressing  the central defender or the striker situation  

This summer is going to be the death of Martinez  for me not buying a solid Striker or paying the   money for a solid Central Defender is what’s going  to cost him his job in my book at least no you’re  

Right but also like imagine throwing Prime cedo  in that team it’s not only a matter of player uh   quality of course it is at some point but also  mainly about uh the tactics because as Costa   said before the way the the Midfield itself does  not protect the defense it’s was going to cost  

Martinez his job yeah and I don’t see yeah I don’t  really see a pass too because even if you win all   those Greek games we still haven’t won a big G  game this season because like I’m not going to to  

Talk again about the pananos Derby but we draw at  uh against a we lost against p and that’s has been   a major issue since Martin’s left so yeah on the  other side which coach would you hire right now  

For this project because when you look at there’s  only one we will end up with n Spirit Santos maybe but there is two mes mes clients that that  are free it’s n Santos and Bruno LJ Bruno LJ  

Isn’t bad right didn’t he do pretty well I don’t  know but now now that we signed the Portuguese   guy it looks like the the road is being built  for a Portuguese manager right a new sporting   director this sporting director is going to say  who the hell is this guy Martinez screw him I  

Want my new guy isn’t that what most people do  new owners new new sporting directors whatever   um it’s probably probably all settled yet man  all know and he probably he probably has a uh he  

He probably has names like you said martial like  it’s settled like he has a he has a guy he wants   and that name I’ve been told the name martial do  you want to hear the name you want to hear the

Name that name is Pedro Martin and he’s got  his suitcases in hand and he said through it   I’m in and he said the only way I’m back  though the only way he comes back doing a  

Val come back but what he said to me and a few  sources close to him he said he will only come   back if yasim media comes with him so that’s  the sticking point in negotiations it’s it’s  

A tough negotiation that’s occurring throw Rod  Miranda in there as well and H but he said and   this is again going back to sources close to him  oh my go that he wants Hassan to be his number  

One nine and that he wants El kabi to give up his  jersey so Hassan can wear it that’s that’s again   close to sources next to Pedro Martin so no you  mentioned asan but just I think on the cut list  

We had last summer just go through the names  and just figure it out like how many players   would have been useful for the team right now  and no I do not I do not want the penguin wle  

Back on this team I’m sorry once the Penguin  waddle effed off I was happy like don’t get   me wrong the guy had some great goals for us  but I have never seen a footballer with more   tragic ball control than Egyptian penguin  I’m sorry I’m sorry like even King qu had  

Better ball control than Hassan did I’m  sorry King qu plays in League one by the way he’s actually doing pretty well so I I saw  King KU I turned on A B Team game I see saw him  

Try to make a Crossfield switch that killed a  child at R the like in the stands you know like   he was like he was like he pointed like make a  run and he just boom and nailed a child in the  

Stands and that was the end of his career I think  but no but the coach situation probably will come   back on the news because just look at the list  we we ad sent on on the chat about the the Greek  

Games uh it’s you know one of them would turn bad  like probably Volos away to have a new coach uh   they have like the annoying players that probably  could snatch a a go against olympos out of nowhere  

Like I’m pretty sure the the announcement from the  club is already ready like the one for corbera and   after Aris because like it popped right after  the game so listen Mar we’re gonna win all of  

These games you know why because I’m not I’m I’m  gonna change my I’m gonna change my habits see I   stopped making I stopped making my my my pre-made  match win AI Graphics because plus I thought I was  

Jinxing club and ever since I stopped we’ve had  terrible results in Europe and in Derby’s so I’m   I’m going to start doing it again now we’re going  to start winning watch but I’m I’m looking I’m  

Looking at the the fixture list you know after a  draw or a loss to topolo that’s a good time to get   rid of him because then you have aromos and lamia  to finish and then you have time January 3rd vers  

Ike so right can I stop you right there because  didn’t we say the same thing when Mell came last   year like oh if he finishes out strong he has  wasn’t it like the World Cup and the winter and  

He could and then it was a [ __ ] disaster also to  be fair to be fair he the new manager would have   12 days to get the team ready to play against Ike  so it’d be a quick turnaround for sure um Jesus  

Christ what a disaster just imagine if we draw a  great Club in conference League after one leg like   imagine the amount of der you would have to play  in one season but the absurdity but guys I I’m  

Looking back like at the at the schedule it like  I I’m trying to think when was the last that pout   game like killed us I’m looking at the it’s like  West Ham we were [ __ ] against AOS it was let’s  

Just say not enjoyable to watch Pan’s weekend was  terrible and then you have tonight it was like   gone man gone it was weird it’s weird like is it  is it coincidence as well that like B players like  

Brinich Turned Up on the weekend all of a sudden  like they’ve been frozen out since September and   all of a sudden he’s back like good but you know  so bucken wasn’t used so buckin was played at left  

Back imagine if you’re so bucking mate so you’ve  never played left back in your entire life and   then all of a sudden the coach is like oh we’re  losing 2-0 I want you to come on at left back  

What you lose the player you lose the player man  yeah yeah and that’s where that’s on that PE point   in which leesu for me is the very best coach in  Greece because he owns every one of his player  

Mentally and every single one of them is ready  to fight until the very end and what we need uh   on the on this Winter Market it’s to find someone  that could be like creso underes like Varela you  

Know that those kind of average players on paper  that can turn into very very good player for   olympos because it’s different to be a good player  and being a good player for olympos but we don’t  

Have the coach right now that is able to uh to do  that and the locker room situation has been a very   big sit very big issue for olympos since probably  Martin’s Prime Martins because under Prime Martins  

Every player knew who was going to play who  was going not to play because there was there   weren’t that much rotation if you all remember  we were all mning about that because Martins did   not rotate his team but isn’t that the perfect  solution because he had these 12 13 players and  

He used them until the end yeah but he burned some  of them there at the end yeah but that that’s what   a downside yeah I guess it’s not possible to do  what to to do F what Ferguson did with Manchester  

If you can if you can do two solid years with  a club that’s already good yeah my opinion I   mean look at can I just say like look at look at B  starting lineup and it’s just like Thomas Kora at  

Center back guier Aus Rafa Suarez vinho right back  Thomas morg Tyson Ali samata it’s just like what   but they play as a team M by the manager and you  see the manager like he knows how to motivate the  

Players and I think lagav last made a comment in  the in the chat about nescu I don’t know when he’s   contract tracks up but uh I said it after the bout  game for me that guy’s going to be our manager one  

Day but I would sacrifice lambros for that why  would you say that why what’s the point of saying   that God God damn it but I’m I’m looking through  our the team sheet from today and I’m thinking  

Of like like the finished players like who were  finished here like last season I love doing that   because they were all finished but I think there’s  more here for me bascal lakis this is it this is  

This season and he’s gone Rod you keep retos you  keep doy needs to go ASAP Ortega you keep MDI they   need to sell because he’s not renewing he’s gone  after this year he is probably gonna have interest  

In the summer alexandros you’re going to pay4  million euros for what we just saw tonight I don’t   know about that is it four aie do you know it’s  four it’s four yeah you’re going to pay4 million  

EUR it’s a lot of money uhis they could get him  for Less they could try fortunis for cheaper or   fortunis can stay hense they’re gonna pay five  million euros I don’t think so and then you have  

El kabi who is like he’s like Guerrero man like  he’s a Guerrero replica he’s fine to have as a   second Striker I have no problem with him and  then you go to the bench ior is done LA’s done  

Ken’s done masas I guess we keep carvalo is done  pepel is done sois can stay and soakin is done   so you’re looking at what the fullbacks he and  fortunis and alabi those are like those are the guys ibor and Ki have turned into massive flops  massive they weren’t supposed to be starters  

They were only to get us to the to like pass the  qualifiers and they were always supposed to be   rotation Keeny is the travesty that we let start  for way too long we didn’t have a solution Fair   the footballing William Wallace the footballing  William Wallace is gonna be playing for us next  

Season though do you know who I’m talking about  William Wallace HS grve Jordan HBO is going to   save us next year but guys it’s so disappointing  when you see some of these players play like pep  

Bell didn’t even get on the pitch tonight but he  looked like a dead body for like three months I   remember when I spoke to him outside the stadium  and it looked like someone had killed him like  

Just he had no like he looked just like pissed off  to be even there even last season man even last   season but Jesus Christ and probably copen decided  to make profit so so B and joshler yeah just same  

Type yeah honestly L I wouldn’t I wouldn’t selly  right away because like given the core that we   at the the weird core that we have going into  like the winter I would probably actually keep  

Doy for the Midfield to be honest with you yeah  and I see this comment some from some guy saying   like you contradict yourself because you want  the youngsters to get a chance for example do  

You expect to be brilliant straight away and if  not he’s what no the issue is for me if doy if   the youngsters don’t work and it’s been a year  of them playing over you can niola a lot of them  

There’s so many teams on the market that’ll pay  three or four million you can get a percentage   I think you could sell doy right now to Sia for  like three million euros and a 15% hold on that  

Is a success for oos right there I think doy if if  the team decides he’s got to keep playing at the   central defense then he has no future at o backos  if they want to try him at the six I don’t know  

If he can dribble and move like a midfielder  he seems a bit clunky to me whatever but in   my opinion you can the the the optimal decision  that all youngsters don’t need to turn into Stars   right like that’s not what we argue when we say  play the youngsters but when you play youngsters  

You can produce a player for two to three million  and move them on because let’s say it’s not going   to work or you can produce really big star players  right that who is better than doy I’m sorry do is  

Tragic Defender doy is horrible he’s not Defender  he’s not a Defender but but I I just want people   that like people who will argue for do be like  do like you need to go to the stadium you need  

To watch his movement you need to watch how he  uses his hands how he marks how he presses it is   some of the worst defending you will ever see like  it is terrible like you you when you go from three  

Years ago watching rupen s defend against Victoria  pesen or whatever and then you watch doy play   defense it’s night and day like do cannot defend  I think poroso is better than doy that’s just

Meend look at the first goal with doy today that  none of that none of that happens if he holds him   offside man we were so bad last season we were  so bad last season that we bought in doy from  

The from the academy Mitchell bought him in  from the academy and told him you’re going to   play center back and we were so happy or like  kind of what’s the right word just we enjoyed  

The fact yeah we we enjoyed the fact that like he  brought an academy player into the first team and   you know you get you get behind him but imagine  if the club actually did that in a systematic   and like more correct and strategic way that’s  the question there’s a question here right who’s  

The the last Academy player that came out of the  academy and actually played in his position baros   take Ros out of the equation who’s the last player  out of the academy that we pulled out and actually  

Developed and in their position I’m struggling I’m  really struggling forun is left he went to he went   toas he went to Germany then then he came back the  academy still came Chimas came from the academy  

Right yeah Chimas did too timas went to Denmark  and went to Holland we didn’t develop him yeah we   develop shim no that’s that’s not a joke who who  did shim lassi very good mid fter by the way play  

You could argue that we did develop him like you  could argue we did develop those players because   we sent them out on loan and then they came back  and they got their chance but it’s like like the  

Whole story with andos and rousai play them andrut  starting as a 10 then a center mid then a Winger   then a right back then you know verai and then uh  DOI it’s like we’re not [ __ ] on DOI but like you  

Know I I agree I think Ari made the point like  play him have him as a as a rotation option we a   backup option as a six [ __ ] man just play him in  his position but but it’s also not black and white  

Like a prospect it’s so weird people have like  football manager idea Prospect like the prospect   either sucks or he’s the star you know it’s like  a lot of the prospects will be like nicolao man   like you will sell him for3 million EUR and  he’ll have a good career and Siri B said yeah  

Brought some things to you brought some money  and that is fine that is good for o balos to   make three four million euros from a player but  the problem is like when a prospect enters oros  

Everyone’s like he has to be the next coming of  Jesus Christ it is okay to say doy was decent he   entered the team he did well but now we can move  him on because I don’t see doy getting better at  

Oakos so we cash in we make three or four million  euros we put a sellon fee for him and that is how   acmy and modern football clubs work that are  not in huge leagues you know like I don’t know  

If you disagree with that but that’s how I see  the pro I don’t see every Prospect turning into   25 billion Euro player like how it works also the  the thing we need to improve is the the I don’t  

Not say that the what we did with alexandr pulos  was fine but you you can find a Greek Solution   on the market and I there were two solution for us  this summer the first one was gutas second one was  

Shopis both of them them should have been signed  for lios because both of them are not guaranted   starters for in pakos in the powerful oos but  when you look at this team right now just add  

A showpiece at number six and just had gutas in  defense and you you do have the great call with   good good player not expensive and we need to  improve on that but it’s not with with Cordon  

That we will progress on the Greek transfers and  when I mean Greek transfers I don’t mean Socrates   or manolas when they came back to the club but  inform Greek players yeah it goes back to that   conversation we were having about Squad players or  even Fringe players in your team it’s like B yeah  

Yeah it’s like in the B it’s like the basketball  team with like George Papas you know he doesn’t   play but like he plays his role on the bench he  might play some trash minutes like three or four  

Minutes in the Greek league but he’s part of  the squad and he’s not getting paid much and   neither would the like I think your opinion about  Ras and cus are unpop is an unpopular opinion I   haven’t looked at the chat but I imagine with  most oakos fan that is an unpopular opinion we  

Had yeah we had gutas we had shopis sakas yeah  yeah all of those players you mentioned but you   know we want to sign the big names and the we  don’t know to sign rotation players yeah like  

Richards man like with salak I know wrong side  of the pitch is Richards better than sakas no   because Richards doesn’t play so he has a name  and he played for Bayern Munich and whatever but  

He doesn’t play so it doesn’t matter you know  no man there is not that much we I would have   been happy with with uh Leo yanis coming back as  a super Club he would have played 20 games by now  

We all would have yeah kakoos would have been  the the first solution but it’s too expensive   and doesn’t want to come back lanis man it’s it’s  smart business like it’s smart cheap rotation and   you know what when you have remember when doy  got called up he had sarati next to him where  

He’d go in the press and he said any mistake he  does like it’s probably my fault blah blah blah   like Leo yanis can be there to support a player  you know whatever you’re gonna have personally I  

Don’t see uh that element you know sarati is as  [ __ ] as he was last season like at least he he   kind of mentored DOI a bit I yeah he’s better at  that than can somebody bring up the comment about  

Um it’s in the chat I can’t bring it up somebody  raised the for comparison to mikas 2.0 how many   how many project n mikas is has this club had it  started with apostolos then kitos how many how  

Many new project newas has there been at this club  man go ask Nikos K’s new article on TOA five nil   may have been tough but there’s a new project she  mikas because of it God I can’t wait for the spin  

He’s going to be like tough discussions were had  in the locker room and everyone understood what   must be done and like people are going to read it  and like yeah that’s good someone underlined that   that’s good right he just said right there he’s  like that that’s that’s good it’s like Costas  

Fortunis in broken English said guys we try but we  don’t try enough and the players knew immediately   what needed to be done like I can’t wait for the  article if you want to think of something funny   think of Costas fortunis in broken English trying  to explain to rodina and Ortega like what what  

Just happened tonight just like he’s like guys we  go but we don’t go good like I’m just trying to   think of that conversation tonight you’re assuming  he even speaks English you may not speak English  

You know like like Rod n like speaking to to  do he’s like we no Goods no boys no brother anyway okay I’m done I I like having a joke  but I sometimes I try to imagine how those   conversations in a 5 nil full-time  locker room in Frozen Germany go you  

Know like like does everyone look around  and just like we just produ the disaster like Marina is Translating that like I don’t  know that that’s why it we needed a a needy   draw for in the cup you know like those shitty  game against Super League to team in which you  

Rotate you rotate full of the of the team because  it’s the only way to get away after loss like   that in Germany yeah you’re absolutely right  playing against a Super League 2 team that’s   getting robbed people dying on the pit so shout  out to our patreon interview with Bon and his  

Experiences in GTH Niki and the time he spent  in ALA too so check that out but yeah you need   you need something like that you’re right but  I remember those trips back in the day where   youngsters would actually play like we would  go to like I don’t know Kalamata or whatever  

And they would only bring the kids plus like  three senior guys like Omar Richards would   finally play but then they changed the format of  the cup right like yeah we us group phase it used  

To be like group phase for the cup and yeah that  wasn’t that wasn’t utilized as well as it could   let’s say but like that was better than what it  is now where like first round you play P A9 Co  

Where it’s like is this really a cup competition  or is this just like get the best teams to play   each other in the winter like no you I guess it  used to be uh the Greek Federation being fed up  

Of us winning the league all the time so let’s  make it uh let’s make it knockout so yeah I I   don’t know but anyway I think I’ll wrap this up  because it’s as you can see it’s getting already  

Dark out here um oh it’s getting dark over there  is it yeah it’s getting dark over here and I over   there yeah I’m in the office so I don’t know  anyway Kos uh I think has he played Bel to him  

Like kopos is playing with Volos playing quite  nice from what I’ve read so maybe he doesn’t   play for the B Team anymore no no really good  for him yeah he signed a new contract with us   it wasn’t sure this summer I remember that yeah  could have been playing ped Martin played him once  

He pocketed Bales and everyone was like oh [ __ ]  we’re actually gonna play a prospect we need to   vental back in gree I you know what man I’m I’m  I’m so glad you said that because his name came  

Into my mind like during to for sure it’s like  at this point at this point you’re just like mate bring I just think it’s so healthy like I  know that like we’re one of the most impatient  

Fan bases in the world but I just think it’s so  healthy like having that approach but you need you   do need a steady call if you do throw the young  players into a team that’s unst label that isn’t  

You know doesn’t have a certain kind of solidity  you you you’re more it’s a higher risk that you’ll   burn them yeah kind of but also it shows the  one that are able to step up when needed and  

The one that needs a proper context that would  not be possible in olympos and also pao’s Pao   bento’s Legacy is still remembered like we don’t  remember these games itself themselves but more   the player in launch and I think as a coach it’s  it’s what matters at the end of it unless you have  

The Pedro Martins uh trophies but otherwise  when you compare to the coach that passed by olympos but yeah there’s truth in what you say  it’s like if you think about the the coaches   that left something like a legacy yeah exactly but  Martin’s left the Legacy true um like I’ve seen a  

Couple of people post it on social media and maybe  maybe some of you guys as well mentioned it in our   in our group chat but like is it you know you  start to even ask yourself the question today  

And did was it was it Pedro Martine that really  screwed us or was it the club that screwed him I   think everyone went crazy yeah everybody everybody  went nuts because even even the like the whether   whether it was Pedro Martins that was looking for  the players because everyone if we believe what  

Everything was told to us right Pedra Martins had  control over a lot of the transfers he he earned   that so to speak and if that’s the case then there  was a drastic change in the types of players that  

We brought in before covid and then after the  covid break because before the covid break we   had a lot of young guys the mtis uh um uh now now  I’m like blanking uh I forgot when CE came in but  

All of these guys we had all these interesting  prospects a lot of them of course were play 11   guys and uh I’m sure that has something to do  with it but we brought in a lot of interesting  

Prospects we still had the same issues at the  wing position because outside of Pense we had hot   garbage on the wing podence lazaros was good until  he got hurt but then we had guys like Nel who are  

About as good of a football player as some high  school kids I know so we we had a couple of those   too but the the whole point was how we we changed  because we went from getting a lot of young guys  

Playing with a lot of guys break breaking breaking  news breaks oh God don’t say it yeah um hold on   breaking I have breaking too Nel actually plays  for a Polish team called slash War to CLA guys  

Marz is done Martinez oh my God your news is worse  than mine oh my God oh my Bruno Felipe who’s Bruno   fipe how do you not know Bruno godam he ended up  doing great things in Cyprus by the way okay but  

We we need to analyze this Diego Martinez so he’s  out and hour no he’s not yeah I’m just reading   this now is it a to article no it’s uh well at  least the source I’m reading now is Sport FM Bab  

Lord just announced that um the Spanish coach is  expected to be a thing of the past as the Greek translation here we go again so I have a name oh yeah here it is know it feeds into what we’ve been  saying it feed feeds into it it’s  

Like the the the the the changes  all of a sudden the new sporting director the new sporting director  has a manager surely he has like   a guy ready that’s why this is so I expect  like we’ll have a manager real quick because

He also Bobby S stoo to break the news damn  not even Nik coot he got scooped by Bobby the Old Goat I can’t believe  that it’s actually pretty rough   maybe he’s gonna site bobes when he  writes his article that one’s for you

Aie my anyway guys so in the long term do  we see this getting better in the next five   years like I the next five years maybe  five years is too long next five or six months martial first name who you would like to  

Come back to come in iasa until June  okay it’s quite long that’s actually   um an interesting suggestion but I  yeah doubt it I very much doubt it am I insane for saying Pedro Martinez is  not off the table with the Portuguese guy  

No it’s not happening mate when  fortunis is your captain can you   imagine that would have been a  cold reception at the airport Jes I had a feeling this might happen today I  I honestly I couldn’t believe it I I thought  

It for sure it would happen if we messed  it up against against bka topa but Jesus   Christ oh my God so people are saying like  um people are saying like who’s going to come   to us surely this new Portuguese guy that  they brought in has a name and that’s why  

They feel confident in uh doing this but  on the weekend who do we play Volos you said and then BOS yeah both away both away both  away everything is away basically until too and  

Then we go away again to Aria so it’s a tough job  for a new manager actually they’re not they’re not   Volos are not World beaters but you’re away four  games in December and you have must must get a  

Result first the Serbian team who has done decent  like West Ham needed a 90 minute winner to beat   them tonight so yeah yeah they they they’re  not uh it’s not going to be a walkover it’s  

Not going to be walk in the park against him not  at all and didn’t they didn’t they get a result   against like part was it partisan or red star  I don’t know I I think I’m gonna be honest with  

You and I know a lot of people in the comments  have been saying out I think that’s a mistake   like all we’re doing is feeding an identity that  you can’t do anything here at liakos Beyond two  

Three months we’re not going to find a great  coach I I don’t know I they they screwed it   man they screwed it like there’s there’s more to  what’s been happening behind the scenes I swear   yeah there’s more to there’s more even than like  what we’ve been speculating um Chris Coleman on  

His way who what Chris Coleman oh dear God like  what a message to his son like I know I know   tonight was humiliating none of us like it none  of us like the defeat against B but it’s like  

What again like oh let’s build the bridge and  let’s drop a [ __ ] bomb on it again and then   let’s start building it again but start using uh  hay to build the bridge not concrete like what the it’s just like not you’re not even  going back to Step Zero or step one  

It’s like I don’t even know now do you  think cordone made the decision or it   was decision of the owner how how does  cordone make the decision to his own appointment yeah does this does this  mean that like that’s why Gordon’s   gone actually because the writing’s been on the

Wall man and don’t discount Chris Cooper is that  his name the non no the guy in for Cooper Steve   Cooper Chris uh Steve Cooper is feeling the  heat as well um they’ve had some poor results  

I I I was reading on um on socials and on the  athletic so um yeah the nightmare could come   through and they could get relegated actually  it’s difficult for them to get relegated Cordon   Cordon says is interesting because it’s it’s it’s  clearly I don’t know what happened exactly but he  

Not the sport director of olympos anymore like  doesn’t matter in which way you say it like he   belongs to the marinakis group he’s working on  Nottingham Rio a and oakos but he’s not the he’s   not anymore the sports director so basically  we need coach and Sport director we do have a  

Sport director by now but it comes back to  the communication with the fans like like   the the club hasn’t officially communicated that  Cordon is like the the coordinator the group or   anything like that it’s like it’s just go it’s  like we’re just they’re just letting everyone  

Speculate and chat [ __ ] actually there’s no  Clarity whatsoever and then they’ll get upset   when people speculate they give no Clarity hold  on Sports director Antonio cordone is still on   the website by the way if you go to the website  they they have this assistant Sports director is  

Jose Navaro and then Strate IC advisor that’s got  to be someone who does nothing yes it’s Christian kamb anyone with the name strategic  advisor I wish I could be the Strategic   adviser to nothing one of these times  when they fire a coach I just want them  

To fire K Bay as well like can we  be done with it you know can we be   it’s like having a second mascot on  the team um anyway a lot to analyze guys what do we expecting are we expecting a  press conference again from Mar nakis like he  

Did with anigo like he did with Michel like he did  with martinez you think he’ll do another one here   to say to tell the fans what this time because  now what the scary thing I think for all of us  

Who are supportive of the sporting director  path is that MX is now going to say I did it   through the agents I did it through the sporting  director screw it we’re going through the agents  

Again you know that’s like the worst fear right  that’s like he says screw it mil AIS is back to   signings um Vos is back to signings whatever and  the sporting directors are done that would be   that’s the scenario right when you look at the  galatas Squad Squad currently oh God the sport  

Director way is not going to work for oos and for  chish Club you need to go full on the agent stuff   because you need the patience for the sports  director way and we don’t have it anyway so

Maybe you will have more success when with penses  and S thrz than with the spot direct away um there   there’s more news coming out about Martinez  I’m reading um it’s going to be a long night  

And that on Friday oos will will have a new a new  manager on the bench Friday night you said Friday night gonna be a long night so stressing that on Friday like  Friday we’ll find the team with a new

Manager nice so that means it’s already been  if if that’s the case they had someone he was   finished lined up yeah yeah that’s insane man  like if you think like reputationally as well   like Bon like we’re finished in Spain man  like Spanish Market shut who the hell comes  

From Spain Gordon mitel I ior was big maybe Coran  Martinez now it’s not a good market for us as well   I think martial has told it the French Market  is a much better there’s so many diamonds in   France and they’re so cheap as well because  of the TV deal and just they oversaturated  

Countrys of prodiction in football it’s true  I have a question like yes or no question to   all of us is this the right decision I already  said I disagree with it I thought I think this   is premature I think we should it should  have been waited till at least bot Copa  

And if we failed there I understand he’s gone  we’re one point off the top I I mean I don’t I   guess people were expecting something in Europa  League I wasn’t but I I think this is premature personally I would say go ahead go  go on go I just think if they had  

An a ready option a strong option and this was the inevitable fair enough but if this is like  uh we’re just pissed off let’s fire the guy   now and figure it out later then we’re screwed  but my gut is saying that they’re gonna have um  

They have someone and that this Portuguese  guy came in with a name and he’s already   been talking to him so let’s see soting  was on the wall I think I don’t believe   in coincidence anyway in football so I would  say that’s a good solution if I can say that  

Because I’m not seeing any Improvement and  I’m don’t I don’t want to wait for another   disaster to sack Martinez because it will  be too late it might be might be premature   but if something was played behind his back  it’s better for him to leave because it’s not sustainable

Yeah next question is it his fault yeah takes blame of course he Tak some  blame of course it’s it’s it like it’s a lot   of uh there’s plenty of blame to go around  but his man management his match management  

Hasn’t been good for most of the season game  management maybe I’ll say like you know what   I mean like his in-game management especially in  the beginning of the Season waiting too long to   make Subs in the beginning then then overdoing  the changes in other games like you there’s has  

Not been a middle ground with him can you can  you think of one game where he made uh changes   and I’m not talking about the games where we  played our B team and then G goas fortunis  

Get subbed on and wins the game for us has  there been a game where his changes or his   Direction have caused us to win and again I  I’m not talking about him subbing on Costas   fortunis when the subs are playing and he  wins the game for us has there been a game  

Like that no and that’s that that’s my thing  for him so I don’t I don’t necessarily blame   him for everything but you know he I don’t think  he did himself any favors in that respect mate  

Mate I just had a friend like a colleague from  Germany text me and says oh wow they sacked the coach so so this is like I don’t know if he’s   watching watching right now  actually hi toon if you’re

Watching yeah this picture of him with his little  scarf in the snow is so depressing on Sport FM I   don’t know if you guys have seen it he’s just  waving his hands he looks so helpless Diego  

Martinez just anyway guys I I I need more time  to think about this as well I think I think we   can talk about this more this may call for two  two episode this week on do we play Sunday we  

Play Sunday yeah Volos okay or we do an emergency  disaster podcast if needed we we’ve been known to   do it in the past so get ready to do some uh  tactical analysis sorry bring out the boards  

Again oh my God oh my Lord I need to hit to  head to bed guy okay I think I might need   glass of whiskey okay boys I’m going to head  out I’m going to have a drink tonight as well  

God bless yeah definitely definitely goingon to  need one for this oh my goodness gracious Diego   Martina’s era finished all out course how many  months was that August September October three months guys guys I can’t do another summer of  that many deep Dives you understand like the  

Summer before and this one it was too many in  like such a quick period of time it’s so much   work to get ahead of those I can’t handle  another clear out it’s too much yeah also   I just I was also on reading some of the  newspapers and I just read that also it  

Is reported that Martinez said to pep you and  and your loser haircut and tattoos are coming   with me too you’re finished that’s really  those are tough words from the head coach exit anyway your best your best friend Ramon’s  gonna come back get another chance oh Jesus  

Imagine the new coach like looks at the squad and  he looks he like [ __ ] we need a backup left back   someone get Ramon on the phone he’s coming back we  would have knitted him in some games shut up shut  

Up Mar I’ll send a DM to whoever the new coach  is with your picture next to R be like this is   the guy got a imagine imagine if Ramon makes a  glorious comeback no no other site just for the  

Record I know we’re trying to shut this down and  we all want to go to bed or at least Mar and I do   but no other site is picked up on the the report  about the manager uh maybe I need to go listen  

To the Greek radio I told promis myself I’d never  say those words but when’s our when’s our favorite   troll going to come out of hiding on twitteros  oh this is it yeah so yanis hopos tweeted olos   manager Diego Martinez is under pressure to  be fired is under serious consideration way  

To say nothing man real nice does anything ever  come from him like no he literally just Tweets   in English what other people tweet in Greek  and everyone from abroad is like this guy’s   on an Insider he knows everything okay guys but  last I’m gonna leave it at this Mel to come back  

Who says no would Mell come back isn’t he isn’t  he coaching somebody now he has a club in the   Saudi Dubai or something or Saudi Arabia that  was it okay never mind maybe Mel says now okay   everyone on that note should we wrap up don’t  forget to like And subscribe if you’re joining  

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