LeCake Train – Chapter 2
In an age where global connectivity and cultural exchange are more accessible than ever before, it is essential to acknowledge the environmental implications of cultural mobility.
Part 2
Presented by Gwendoleen Sharp fromThe Green Room
Editing:
Kevin Nivard
Music:
Leo Sokolovsky
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LeCake is a European cultural innovation project which is part of the ecological transition.
It involves 8 partners from 6 European countries.
LeCake has 2 components :
LeCake Train (research, design, knowledge sharing, training, publications)
LeCake Lab (creation of sustainable European art projects)
LeCAKE Train is Funded by Erasmus+ Strategic Partnership and Label Paris Europe
La Transplanisphere — France, Paris latransplanisphere.com (coordinator)
Ex-Quorum — Portugal, Evora facebook.com/exquorum/
Teatro Rigodon — Italy, Rieti teatrorigodon.it
La métonymie / Le sas – France, Paris Le sas, groupe science-art-société
The Shift Project – France, Paris theshiftproject.org
Ohi Pezoume / Urban Dig project – Greece, Athens urbandigproject.org
Pro Progressione – Hungary, Budapest proprogressione.com
forum kunstvereint e.V. / Consol Theatre – Germany, Gelsenkirchen consoltheater.de
[Music] so I come from the music sector I worked as a music programmer for quite a  long time in Central Europe and as a tour manager as well and I founded the organization called The  Green Room in 2016 uh to support musicians and uh music professionals on environmental issues Â
Specifically but also taking um I would say a holistic approach to the questions so also  integrating economical issues social issues and uh trying to have also um yeah more more of a  systemic view on on the question and also really taking care of not putting too much pressure on Â
The artist directly but also think about the responsibility of the whole music sector but  also the cultural arts and culture sector so just in short we work with artists and bands directly  especially around low carbon touring and we also support them on specific needs meaning looking Â
At the digital Alternatives uh for their music practices are looking at production of merch so it  really depends also of the of the artists that we work with and where they are in their career uh we Â
Don’t work with beon or with Taylor Swift we work more with I would say Independent Artists and more  midur uh artists and in order also to scale up uh and I think it’s the same idea that we that you Â
Have behind the cake project uh we work also with different EU projects and networks um so either we  conduct them ourselves or we work as a partner or associated experts called experts uh with the with Â
Some of those projects uh currently and I will give you a few examples of uh of those projects  during my presentation and so Eloise asked me to give you some insights on some Mobility action  plans uh that we have been co-developing uh with some organizations and some networks uh I most of Â
My examples will be from the music sector but we also work with on the Move Network so I will speak  about that and that’s more a global vision of what Mobility is and it concerns all the creative Â
Sector uh and all the uh all the Arts in terms of Mobility uh so some of those initiatives are being  conducted right now and some others are more in the experiment space um and I took one which is uh Â
At the origin more of a individual uh initiative from a music venue that then um had some kind of  The Snowball Effect on the partners and also on on the Jazz sector in France and now in Europe Â
And the other one is more coming from a collective experience through also an Erasmus Plus project  which is now having some influence on networks and also on the on the members um so my first uh  example as I mentioned comes from a music venue uh which is called L Periscope which is based Â
In France and that’s uh really an initiative that wasn’t motivated at first for environmental reason  um they started to tackle their environmental impact more in order to I would say assess some  of the risks that they are facing and also looking at the fact that they receive a lot Â
Of Public Funding they thought they had also a responsibility uh to work on this subject  in link with their with their own uh economical model um and it’s a special context because it’s  a and it will relate to the presentation that ELO was giving you because it’s a venue which Â
Is in the city center very well connected to public transport and working in the mostly in  the Jazz and improvised music sector so inviting quite a lot of international artists and having  very strong links uh with the US for instance um and really having this Focus to to maintain the Â
Heart of their work but to try to do it better and to think about their their impact in a different  way um they are also involved in uh different EU projects so that was one of the starting points Â
I would say for them to to look at this and this question of their impact so I’m not going to go  into details into this because it will also have some similarities with what elois was telling you Â
And I will also send you some links after if you want to look deeper into the different studies  but basically what the venue started to do for their Mobility plan um the first step was uh  really to start to calculate because only a clear understanding of the emissions that are created by Â
The venue can allow to have a critical reflection on the opportunities to reduce the emissions and  also to ensure that the venue contributes to the Paris agreement and now also to the green deal uh  targets so uh it’s not a surprise what came out that Mobility comes first also mobility of the Â
Of the artist mobility of the the the audience coming to to The Venue even if it’s a venue in  a city center and also the mobility of the staff either every day going to work or uh because of Â
All the the international projects so you have quite a lot of Mobility uh within France but  also within Europe um regarding uh the different projects that they are coordinating um even if the  the venue is in the city center and very well connected to to public transport uh it showed Â
That for instance even if just one person from the staff comes to work by car every day it can  have a real impact on the on the carbon footprint of the venue and that was one of the things that Â
They wanted to fine-tune so because you can have a general idea looking at different studies of what  what are the main impacts from a music venue but when you want to fine-tune the stat the strategies Â
That you can have you have to look more precisely into the numbers and into all the levels that you  might have um the second uh step for them was to uh calculate also on the global um on on Â
European scale uh and to compare with venues and with festivals that they work with so they took  more or less the same typology as the shift uh for small venues big big venues small festivals  big festivals and in the countryside or in city centers also to have a better understanding of Â
The impact of the Jazz and improvised music sector in Europe the idea behind this is also  to show show that uh even if we recognize that we do have an impact which is quite significant  it’s also uh very small compared to other uh sectors of the music industry uh especially Â
When we talk about gigantic festivals with 100 200,000 people coming and especially when they  have International Festival goers and also uh looking at different practices that we might  have in the music industry obviously here we are not dealing with artists traveling uh by private Â
Jets or with the 10 or 20 trucks as we can see in other in other sectors so it was also this idea  behind to prevent the risks but also to show that this sector maybe has a little less impact than Â
The other and also has already some uh practices which are uh I would say environmentally friendly  but in order to do that also uh they needed some uh tailor made tools and um oh yeah I will sorry Â
So another I will show you a very nice Excel document to give you so it’s not very uh maybe  the most sexiest tool that but uh to decline this uh these actions that they they wanted to take one Â
Of them was to think about touring uh when when they invite one artist to play at their venue U  they they can decrease the the impact of the of the artist coming to The Venue by helping them to Â
Have a more coherent tour and even helping them to find other gigs around uh but in order also  to to monitor this and to show that this can have a positive impact uh they needed this tool to to Â
Be able to calculate so basically it’s a it’s quite simple Excel sheet where you enter all  the steps of the tour and then you enter uh any means of transportation should it be by Train by Â
Car uh uh van taxi or if it’s a a flight also and then you have the total of CO2 emissions and this  takes into account the whole tour of the artist so for instance this was an artist coming from Â
Chicago and they put in all the dates including the one that happened at L Periscope in y but also  to make the difference between the fact that if you invite an artist just for one gig they will Â
Come from Chicago to Leon and go back and here you can really share the carbon footprint with  the different venues so this is one of the of the main uh actions that is taken by L Periscope but Â
Also by the whole European project uh which was called Footprints and now there’s a new step and  it’s called better life so the idea is to have the artist tour more and to have a collaboration  between the all the programmers which sounds uh probably very basic and very uh yeah it should Â
Be common sense but actually it is not and it was one of the the biggest difficulties of this  project was actually to have the programmers work together and decide to have coherent tours on a  specific teritory um another way of also decline the um this objectives into a concrete plan was Â
To work with uh carbon budget so I don’t know if you are familiar with this uh and maybe sorry if  Louise you you talked a bit about this in your introduction maybe I missed some part but just Â
Very shortly this is to show you like the amount of carbon that we can still spend uh in during  the rest of our lives if we want to respect the objectives of the Paris agreement so if we have Â
Some numbers if we want to stay at one.5 degrees of of global warming uh and uh if we want to stay  under two degrees and the idea there is to uh the same way you work with your financial budgets so Â
You will decide to invite this and this artist because of artistic reasons but also because of  financial budget that you have available it’s you work the same way with your carbon budget  so since you made the calcul a of your footprint you know that every year you have to decrease by Â
Let’s say 5% uh your carbon footprint in order to uh align yourself with a Paris agreement and stay  at a certain level of heating um the problem was that when L Periscope did this calculation and Â
This approach they realized as we do in society that it’s impossible uh to stay at a carbon budget  to respect the 1.5 uh objective so they decided to go with the two degrees scenario and that’s one of Â
The difficulties that we know that if we really want to respect those objectives we have to cut a  lot of our activities and at some point it’s also a matter of decision so it doesn’t mean that this Â
Should be the first uh objective but it’s just another uh tool for decision making where you have  artistic uh you have economical but you also have environmental factors that come into the decision  making and in order to do that for instance uh you can decide that you are going to invite one Â
Artist coming from Chicago because this is very important for you because it’s an artist that  you’ve been working for a long time because they have the audience in your Venue or whatever reason  that you might have but then since you do that and it has a significant impact on your carbon Â
Footprint then maybe you will somehow compensate by either having this artist having other gigs in  your region or working more also on the side with younger artists or having this artist stay longer  and do a residency or do some master classes so there are different strategies like that that Â
Can be um adopted to to work in this uh Direction and just coming back to that also one part which  is also very significant for the impact of the of a venue but also a festival as Eloise was showing Â
Is the the mobility of the audience and this is very difficult it’s a subject that hasn’t been  addressed very much by the music sector for a long time and now it’s a it’s coming uh I would say to Â
The Forefront thanks also to the numbers that came from the from the the shift reports and also some  other studies but it’s very difficult because it’s not like even if you have public transportation  going to your Venue or to your Festival it’s not uh meaning that your audience is going to use Â
Them of course so one of the work that is being done now more and more is on Mobility survey so  asking your audience uh of course which means of transportation what is the budget for them uh how Â
They come to to your Festival but also looking more into sociological learnings I mean why do  they come by car even if there is a bus uh for instance it’s very common at festivals that people Â
Will tell you oh I don’t know when I will come back and uh it’s very difficult for me to share  with someone else my car or I need to have my car because I’m leaving my stuff in it or because I’m Â
Transporting uh a lot of beers that we’re going to to drink at the festival so all those aspects also  which are more uh personal or sociological have to be um also studied in this and this is one of Â
The of the learnings also from from this project that we are now developing within the next step so  which is called better life and the second thing the second learning that we had also from uh the Â
Footprints project was that we kind of started to change the strategy uh before we were working with  the artists and with the agents to build more uh coherent tours and this didn’t really work I mean  it worked on certain territories in Europe which already had this habit of working together but on Â
Some others like for instance in in in Poland we had a lot of issues to have other programmers uh  because mostly because of the I would say ego uh issues with programmers that really want just to  invite their own artist and they don’t want to share a programmation with any other artist so Â
Uh the new strategy that we adopted for that was to work more locally and to build what we call  local hubs meaning that for instance if we work in Poland we might work also in a in a regional Â
Way so it can be also with Czech Republic with Slovakia depending on on where we are  in Poland and then to think more of um training uh the venues and the festival organizers there  and to have them already having some kind of a package when they invite an artist meaning that Â
They propose to them like two or three different gigs or maybe a time of residency or a time of  cultural projects or meetings local musicians so it’s not the artist who’s going to look for gigs  but it’s more the venue is already offering a more coherent tour and having the artist come Â
For a longer time because also because of the infrastructure it’s not always possible for the  artist to come by train or have a lower carbon means of transportation so sometimes they have  to fight but the idea is really to to have them stay longer and to have more meaningful Â
Tools um the second thing so it’s quite a lot of information I’ve put that on one one slide not to  take too long but this is um coming from the work that we are doing so with on the Move network uh Â
Which I guess most of you know which is working on Mobility um and they were part of a Nas plus  project also called shift nothing to do with the think tank but shift culture project and  they decided to create um what they call the shift Echo guidelines and a green certification which is Â
Tailor made for European networks so now it’s in a phase of experimentation uh it was developed  during the time of the of the project and now they are testing so there’s a few European networks  which are working on that for the first year and they’re also being trained they are collaborating Â
With creative carbon Scotland which is a an organization a bit like Julie’s bicycle in the  UK but based in Scotland and which has been working also on supporting the the Scottish  cultural sector on environmental issues since a long time and working quite a lot on European Â
Projects um since many years um and this uh the of course because it’s European networks  Mobility is a central issue uh but it’s not only focusing on just the means of transportation and Â
Maybe I wanted to share this with you maybe some of you saw it it it comes from the recent um study  that was commissioned by the European Union on Greening the creative um uh uh program uh so the  the European creative culture program sorry uh and I personally find this definition of green Â
Mobility very problematic and and I know I’m not the only one because it’s really focuses only on  on the means of transportation in order to seek to to reduce the environmental impact and we do know  working with different um networks that Mobility is actually way more than just the the means of Â
Transportation that you will use and that’s why also we decided to to work more on the decision  making tool and to look at the different aspects of the mobility so this is one of the examples Â
But um on the on the left side in light blue gray uh you have actually this is something  that we started to implement at the beginning of the when I found it the organization in 2016 in Â
Order to decide if it was um meaningful to go to an event or not or to decide on a collaboration  or on a specific project we have this intern internal questionnaire where we ask ourselves  those uh different questions that I listed here uh looking at an event for instance so uh if we Â
Are going to an event just for one uh day or for several days how many people are going there is it  necessary for two or three people to go there or can we go just one person um are there any Â
Possibilities to have meetings with other people other potential Partners on on the spot or not  um and also very practical like to compare the price for train tickets uh duration uh compared  to plane compared to other means of transport a and also looking at the different local impacts Â
So uh first is there a possibility to have this meeting online does it make sense uh are there  any reflection of the events you are attending on their environmental impact and also what you can  bring back is there a reciprocity with this are you just going there to to present a project and Â
And you will not bring anything back to your own Community or is there so these are of course it’s  something that you can tailor made also for your own needs and it’s just a tool to help you to make Â
The decision but it’s actually very um interesting because it brings internal discussions uh within  the organization or within the venue and on the right uh this is a more like more constructed  way of uh working on this question here that that we prepared for for on the Move Network Â
Within the framework of the green certification So within the green certification you have to  uh write your own um um travel policy and you have to decline it in a in a action plan for to Â
Lower your your impact uh looking at travel and looking at Mobility so here we are we we tailor  made also this this questionnaire for them and uh basically so you don’t see the colors there  but depending on what what’s your answer uh if you have more than so you have some answers Â
Which are highlighted in Orange and if you have more than 60% of orange coming it means that you  need to reassess uh your decision because you you answer too many I would say bad answers in terms  of environmental impact and it’s good that you rethink it so rethink about yeah maybe how many Â
People are going there and if it’s really making sense and if there’s real added value and what we  can see is like this really helps to rethink but also to provoke maybe different Reflections and  that’s coming from another Network that we’re work work working with but they have um it’s a Â
Network of French uh singing so they have a lot of connections with French speaking Canada for  instance and they are used to inviting a lot of professionals from uh French Canada because they  think that they are going to program the bands that they are presenting so a lot of showcases Â
Where you have all those um professionals coming sometimes it’s 30 40 professionals  coming from Canada and now they decided to have a working group to reassess the need for that is  it really efficient does it mean mean that the bands that are presented are having some gigs Â
After the showcases in Canada or is it just that all those professionals are coming to France they  are enjoying their time they are getting maybe drunk at some events but in the end is there  a real need for that and also rethinking about going to professional events because sometimes Â
We really think about the mobility of artists mobility of audience but we tend to forget our own  mobilities as professionals and sometimes maybe also reassessing like does it makes sense to go  every year to uh the festival or to WX or to some of those Events maybe going there only once every Â
Two or three years maybe having a trusted um group of programmers that are everywhere in the world  that can be some kind of your ambassador to some events these are some some of the reflections that  are also taking place and um being stimulated I would say that those very simple at the beginning Â
And practical tools but it’s also to emphasize the fact that just starting at some point to  just calculate can really have a lot of uh very positive effects on the organizations and on the  way of of thinking about um the environmental impact and the responsibilities um so that’s a Â
Bit short and I I hope it wasn’t too dense but it was just to give you some some examples and  I think ELO we have a little bit of time for questions uh if we have if you have any or I Â
Can give you also some more examples if you want to to focus on some specific topics sorry I might  be the climate do missed this this morning um ups and downs you know the kind of more positive I had this thought about you know it all sounds really nice dividing by the artist Â
Impact by inviting them to more festivals but by that don’t you just produce even more  traveling and I know that technically the you know them traveling from the States to Europe  and that being not for only one cultural event but for multiple cultural events that makes it Â
More meaningful but at the same time if you look at the pure matth they travel to Europe they do  one show but from that one show they travel to another show and then to another show but they  maybe not wouldn’t have trouble to so like from a climate perspective like you’re reducing your Â
Own how to say um you make your impact feel as bad but you’re still adding additional CO2  to the atmosphere by producing more events I don’t know I just okay made me feel that all  these Solutions are maybe like fractional to the to the issue at hand but you know might just be Â
That I’m having a negative morning okay I I quite understand what you’re saying but um the hypothesis behind that is that we we still want to uh have culture from everywhere  we still want to have access to culture that is not closed by our home so that means that we are Â
Still make inter International artists coming and basically if you have to to come from Japan or us  or even some places Europe in Europe you will have to take the plane so how how do we do the Â
MS between this urge to to have um to mix culture to exchange and uh the uh climate change and the  carbon Footprints and the only stuff that we can do is by divid this carbon footprint by Â
Different venues but it means that if uh for for the example of Gwen if I have an artist that is  coming from Chicago to Paris then from Paris the deal is that it cannot takes the plane again of Â
Course otherwise it will just make his carbon fpr bigger and bigger and bigger so of course  it means that there is the first uh trip that is by plane and then you have to use really  low carbon means of testation which means train which means no um very light tenography which Â
Means maybe Recreation of a scenography uh in different venues there is also um it’s a deal  we we cannot have everything you cannot come from Far places and then take again the plane and have Â
Big trucks of course if you want to be uh if you want to match your artistic um desire and your environmental uh engagement of course because there is there is a trick it mean that your  trips inside Europe after coming for America will be longer you will take a lot of time Â
To go to Italy to go to uh Eastern Europe to go maybe to Norway I don’t know but the deal  is you cannot do like your European tour in 10 days no if you want to to be um to  to be a a climate change activist and uh International artist the of [Music]
Course yes Rosanna and maybe just to add another aspect when we’re going away from the only climate  protective perspective on the organizing of Toth I also think that local Hub makes sense for the  social sustainability and the economic sustain ility so taking for example the consor theater Â
When they organizing so local theater festivals and they’re proposing the same artists to a little  theater who cannot afford normally to organize this tour we’re making those artistic performances  accessible to other people in the region and this for me is also a very important aspect of thinking Â
In those local hubs to organize venues and also the other aspect I think we saw last week about  the making the local economy work for me it’s also a very important aspect but this is one of Â
My of my more positive opinion but then also agree with you matate that we still have to compromise  between our desire for cultural activities and still have to recognize that it would be more  sustainable not to have them but only from the climate protection VI when you’re taking the Â
Perspective of a more social equity or cultural sustainability I think we still have to do them yes uh we will um explore it more next week next week we will have Airman  lugan which had um um a big venue which was called where to land it’s a European Â
Project which gather a lot of cultural actors in to tackle the issues of climate change how  cultures uh does its transition so he will um he will uh translate for us the main points of  uh the venue that happens last year and then we will have Tristan Tristan is coming from Â
Uh the VD theater of loan where they did an experiment with with an artist on um uh lowc  carbon footprint uh experiment and how and how the and how it changed the way of programming the  theater but also the way didn’t change anything after all so it will be interesting to have its
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