Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro FEUD Over War in Israel-Palestine

Ameshia Cross and Robby Soave weigh in on Andrew Tate’s criticism of Ben Shapiro. #andrewtate #benshapiro Originally aired November 22, 2023; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIlk1a6Fet8

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In a conversation with Piers Morgan self-proclaimed toxic masculinity King Andrew Tate laid into Ben Shapiro accusing him of being a warmonger let’s watch so Ben is a warmonger Ben has been wrong on basically every single issue you can name he was with you with the vaccine and and every other War Ben is

Always calling for other people’s young men to go and die in some War he seems to love it I don’t know he has short man Sy room but he’s always behind his desk calling about how important it is that big strong men like me go and die and

The reason he tweeted that and said that is because when Hamas and Israel the very early in the conflict I think it was three days in we’re discussing possible peace talks he tweeted no absolutely not them kill them all and I said I said Ben as a man who’s done his

Own fighting because I’ve had a life of pain and violence listen to me peace is always worth a conversation what I said is that we should always be prepared to at least discuss peace he because he’s a warmonger said no peace is not worth the conversation you’re this you’re that

Because he’s always sitting behind his desk he must have a booster chair and he’s always running his mouth trying to invoke violence and call for war and I find it kind of hypocritical because a man who’s so small he would die he was slapped on the street sitting behind the

Desk and screaming for other people to be annihilated I think is kind of it’s worse than think I believe it’s insane I believe if he was sitting here listening to this he would say that what he’s screaming for is for Jewish people in Israel be a to defend themselves and he

A jewi does is call for war and I agree defending yourself that’s all he does that’s all he does and calling for war and call and defending yourself is very different than genocide Shapiro also appeared to be the target of a jab from fellow conservative figurehead Tucker

Carlson who made this thinly Veil burn this week and it used to be our first defense you would say well in fact there was a guy who used to say facts don’t care about your feelings changed his views on that recently but um but that remains true it’s a classic

Tucker put down kind of backhanded um he is referencing Ben Shapiro there because Ben’s famous for that catchphrase um look this is a I don’t care about your feelings was around long before Ben Shapiro but yeah and he well popular they’ve been saying that since uh probably the 80s all right I

Believe you remember I mean h i was a baby uh in the late ‘ 80s but you came out of the wom saying fact don’t care about your Republicans have been saying this for a while so I’m like he kind of co-oped it and flipped it for a new

Generation so what we’re really talking about here is a massive difference of opinion and it’s frankly it’s an ideological difference it it’s having it’s taking on a flavor of a very bitter personal disagreements between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens now Andrew Tate and Ben Shapiro it’s really

Exploding at the daily wire and it’s very acrimonious but it’s a ideological difference on foreign policy the right is in fact divided on foreign policy I think in a healthy way there’s a debate going on about where the right should be on foreign policy the old the

Neoconservatism of the ODS of you know Reagan to Bush um is is not does not have nearly the unanimity among conservative thought leaders as it did at that time it was always less popular among the actual Republican base and Republican voters than than the elite Republican support for foreign interventionism suggested there was

Always an undercurrent of why shouldn’t we spend American tax dollars at home what business of it of it is is ours if the Middle East is screwed up are we making it better by being involved there are we making it better by being involved anywhere else how does this

Help American Security why don’t we put America first um this was something Ron Paul really capitalized on when he ran and then it was something that Donald Trump um you know came to totally dominate over the Republican Party by by um by a adopting a totally different

View and now we’re back we’re kind of in we’re not totally post Trump but Trump isn’t completely in charge at all times he’s not front and center all times right now he’s actually been laying low and we had a a you know a new War start in the Middle East and conservatives are

Weighing in and there’s a there’s a split there are people like Ben Shapiro who want to support Israel no matter what and Ukraine frankly Beno is on the funding Ukraine that’s the the Ukraine stuff is very unpopular among Republicans now the Israel stuff’s a little bit more split there are a lot of

Republicans that that do want to back Israel I mean I mean there’s a question of morally supporting Israel and agreeing with Israel and saying their right to do what they’re doing is is one question and then but is it Our obligation to provide for their defense at a time where Americans are suffering

Here and we don’t you know have enough Revenue to rebuild Bridges and roads but whatever Ukraine wants whatever Israel wants whatever any other country wants for some reason it’s America’s job to pay for it I mean it’s an age-old question um there isn’t a country that exists where people aren’t looking to

Themselves first and what’s going on at home more so than they are looking at their neighbors or what’s going on abroad money that’s just yeah that that’s just how it is and I think that coming out of the pandemic you see a lot more people who are buckling down saying

Hey take care of us first I don’t think that that is a trump Mantra as much as it is an American one in the sense that people who don’t support and didn’t vote for Trump are also feeling that yeah um but we can’t slip into an isolationist

Posture there are reasons why there is support for Ukraine largely because of protecting democracies abroad we’ve we’ve always done that um the other piece of that is that we have to understand our role in a global society America cannot afford to be isolationist uh we also can’t afford to be warhawks

And I I will give you that I think that there has historically been um at least amongst conservatives and conservative leaders um who chose to in many cases where diplomacy could have possibly been enacted chose to go another route and that has had long-term consequences what

We’re seeing now is a Schism that’s been largely driven by by the residuals of two Wars that many people consider failed in Iraq and Afghanistan um you’re not going to erase that history and I think that specifically among some of the younger um conservative leaning individuals they’ve been speaking out on

It for a while um younger voters in particular have been speaking out on it for a while but being engaged in Afghanistan for Two Plus decades um the amount of money that was thrown there the fact that go right back to the way it was when we left exactly I that left

A bad taste in people’s mouths and they’re also looking at now um what’s going on with Israel and saying hey can we really root out or can they really root out um can they really root out terrorism can they really rule out Hamas um what happens if the rest of the uh

Rest of the Middle East and other terrorist organizations or unsavory actors end up joining together and getting in this how long will America fund this those are real questions and real considerations they also don’t fundamentally believe that there will not come a point where Americans are called to act physically and I think

That when if if and when that was to happen you would see huge backlash no matter what side of the aisle you happen to be on yeah um I mean I don’t know if benjam got his way we could very well be involved with with ground not you know

Not to Andrew Tate is a is a figure we’ve criticized on the show uh repeatedly for you know his own personal entanglements with I me he’s accused of sex trafficking he’s accused of sexual misconduct all sorts of things that’s got to be worked out he deserved do

Process like everyone else I don’t know if allegations are true um but you know he’s not someone I usually or frankly ever turned to for advice or good political prognostication but I have to admit he had a he had a point there that you when he wasn’t trying to you know

Balance out height and have some screaming match of who’s taller and who’s shorter I’m 5′ without shoes so I was like whatever you nobody nobody’s going against you Amisha uh you’re very tall um you can you could put Andrew Tate in his place that’ be that’ be fun

To see um but when he he when he said that peace should always be an option peace should always always be on the table um I I I agree with that and if there’s a way for them to get peace that would be better because we’re funding by

The way we’re funding the humanitarian Aid going into Gaza that’s that’s also us tax dollars where the the US is the number one contributor to the humanitarian aid funds we rich we’re also the richest nation on Earth well but it doesn’t well yeah and we’re very

Being forced to be very generous I mean we have to we’re paying we pay for the bombs to blow the place up then we pay for the the the relief aid for the people who are victims of the bombs why are we doing it we’re we like we’re

Blowing up a bridge and then we pay to rebuild it it doesn’t make any sense I don’t think the American people want to do that I mean you talked about the importance of Defending democracy in Ukraine if it’s so important why can’t Germany do it why can’t Britain do it

Why can’t France do it it’s their backyard but is a there is a all hands on deck Europe uh approach to Ukraine so they’re not involved obviously we are one we are the largest contributor but there are the European Union is also there I think they should be the largest

Contributor I think we should butt out of it and look you know if you want to if people want to donate their funds if they want to venmo uh zalinsky or Netanyahu that’s fine with me that’s totally fine with me you can do that I

Support your right to do that um I just don’t think people people should be obligated to pay for other Count’s Wars no matter how just they are um and I question whether they really impact our national security all that much and in fact I I worry that our national

Security is negatively impacted by being involved as we found as we’ve learned in the Middle East I think our big UK is going to be around to that point how long this will last because Ukraine can turn into a cold war for all we know there’s no quick wrapping of that one so

They’re not going to win they’re not going to win quickly that’s for sure and and Russia’s assault has been um has been slow walked as well so I that’s a very different circumstance than I think what’s happening in Israel right now yeah well right Israel is I mean we’re

Seeing the we’re seeing the images of the massive civilian casualties and look I you know Bri ban and I argue about this all the time she’s very I I mean I don’t want to mischaracterize her while she’s not here she’s way more intensely against what Israel is doing um than I

Am or is she is she I think sees more legitimacy in Palestinian resistance again I don’t want to mischaracterize her so people could just go watch you know what she’s had to say on the issue or read what she tweets about it she sees a lot more legitimacy I think to what the

Palestinians and and and their representatives are doing in order to resist the situation then I do I don’t agree with that at all but I do worry for Israel’s security and our own security at this level of Destruction and what it’s going to create down the line in addition to being really morally

Atrocious and you know a lot of innocent people dying you know just because you know you can’t you know there were terrorists hiding in my apartment building and the US government blew it up I wouldn’t say that was you know Justified even if there were terrorist

In it right if you blow up the whole city or the whole country like there has to be some level of proportion to you know what you’re doing even if the cause is Justified and I don’t know I think we’re those typical rules of War yes yeah I think we’re not necessarily

Seeing that so all right that was a far-reaching discussion we had based on a clip of Andrew Tate slamming Ben Shapiro so hope you enjoyed and we’ll have more Rising right after This