Today, we’ll talk about how to find an inexpensive, but trailworthy beginner mountain bike. In this video I use a $329 XC Hard tail mountain bike as an example, and even do a little bit of shredding on it.
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What’s a good beginner mountain bike? This is a question I get every day, so today I’m going to give you the tools you need to find one, new or used, regardless of brand. But first we need to define what a beginner bike is.
If you’re a beginner and you have unlimited money then this discussion is over. Just go out and spend a bunch of money on a nice bike and you’re done. But I suspect that most beginners are looking for the smallest financial commitment they can make, while still getting a decent mountain bike.
This bike is decent enough to get you into big trouble, again and again. Better yet, it’s on clearance for $329. Yes, it’s a diamondback Overdrive and I ride for diamondback, but I want you to forget about that today because Diamondback may not be available where you live, or you might
Be looking at a used bike. So today I want you to pretend this bike is colorless with no logos on it. How do we objectively determine that it’s trailworthy just by examining it? Let’s start with the most important indicator of a good mountain bike: the derailleur hanger.
If a mountain bike is equipped with a rear derailleur, it should be hung from the frame by this little piece of metal, the hanger. During a crash, the hanger is designed to break away to prevent damage to the frame. It can then be realigned or replaced inexpensively.
That’s a lot better than throwing the whole bike in the garbage which is what you’ll need to do if you break part of your frame. So when examining a bike, be wary of band-aid solutions like this, or worse yet a derailleur mounted directly to the frame.
Bikes like these could be one crash away from total destruction, and mountain biking is all about crashing. So a derailleur hanger is the very first thing you should look for to determine if a bike is trailworthy. Even the most entry level bikes will have a precision cut, purposeful looking derailleur hanger right here.
So your examination should start, and possibly end with that. The next important part to look for is a threadless stem, which you can identify by these pinch bolts here, and these 4 bolts holding the handlebars on. If instead you see this, it’s usually bad news.
To service or replace anything up front including the fork, you’ll be limited to unreliable parts or vintage mountain bike parts which are hard to find. Good luck tracking down a brand new mid 90’s suspension fork to replace your old one.
A threadless stem is not only easier and less costly to service, but it’s also more rigid. This is not something you want to compromise on. Moving on to the wheels, you need to make sure they have quick release levers.
These are common on entry level bikes, and they make it so you can remove or replace the wheels by hand without any tools. More importantly, they’re an indicator of the bike’s intended use. When mountain biking flat tires are inevitable, so always carrying a 15mm wrench to remove these nuts is problematic.
Worse yet, mountain bikes with nuts on the axles are nearly impossible to upgrade the wheels on, and wheels are one of the things you’ll outgrow as you gain experience. So on an entry level mountain bike you should look for quick release levers and if you see nuts, stay away.
Next up is the crank and chainring assembly. It should be modular and bolted together, not riveted together as one big piece. I’m sure you can see the problem with that. Break anything here, and you’re probably out the cost of your entire bike.
Sure you could drill out the rivets and fabricate something, so if that’s your thing then good on you. Otherwise, look for something you can actually wrench on. The next thing you should look for are disc brakes on the front and rear.
Even cheap disc brakes are replaceable with better ones, which is important to note because your bike needs to have the mountings points for them from the start. More importantly disc brakes are dramatically more reliable than rim brakes, which is why the mountain bike industry switched to them quickly and decisively decades ago.
Because a good mountain bike should be low maintenance and upgradeable, you should be very suspicious of one that does not include disc brakes. Finally, you need to ensure that the bike is available in different sizes, and that the manufacturer actually offers some guidance as to what size you need.
This is as easy as using Google, a lost art. Anyway if the manufacturer isn’t offering this information they probably don’t put much thought into their bikes, and therefore you shouldn’t trust it to take you deep into the woods.
I realize this indicator is less objective than the others, but at the very least, you should get a bike that fits you. Although there are many other indicators of a trailworthy bike, they’re largely irrelevant if the bike in question doesn’t satisfy the requirements we just discussed.
So we’ll focus our attention now on what you can expect from an entry level bike like this, and some of the things you can do to upgrade it. First of all it’s important to note that almost all entry level mountain bikes will be hardtails, or bikes without rear suspension.
The linkage required for rear suspension is costly and heavy, so it’s generally not worth investing in until you start to breach the thousand dollar point. For the sake of simplicity we’ll limit this discussion to hardtails. Hardtails are fun and fast, so they’re great to start out on anyway.
But sub $500 hardtails are almost always XC, or cross country bikes. XC bikes are optimized for pedaling and laying down power. They’re fast, and easy to go long distances on. But those advantages can hold you back when you start to dabble in freeride.
This is not to say that you can’t do a little jumping on an XC bike. It’s just that jumps, drops, rock rolls, or any kind of prolonged descent is best done on a trail bike. This black hardtail next to Overdrive is a good example of a trail bike.
The raked out fork, aggressive angles, wide bars, longer travel, and shorter stem, make it better for the kind of riding I do. Since you can’t convert an XC bike to a trail bike or the other way around, you need
To be honest about what you intend on doing on your mountain bike before you buy one. But if your budget is below $500, you’re getting an XC bike whether you like it or not. So if you eventually take to jumping and throwing the bike around a bit more, you could feel limited.
So here’s what I did to enhance the capabilities of my budget XC bike. The biggest thing you can do, hands down, is change the tires. When I threw these wider, knobbier tires on my Overdrive, it felt like a completely different bike.
I was able to run these tires at a lower pressure, making them grippier and more forgiving. But that’s not all I did. You hear all that rattling? That’s my chain slapping everywhere, and in fact it came off entirely on several drops and jumps.
To remedy this I installed a chain guide, which virtually eliminated the problem. This will cost you a lot less than upgrading your drivetrain, which could easily run you as much as this bike. If I were a beginner trying to progress as far as possible on this bike, I might upgrade
The pedals as well, and maybe the fork to something like this. Venturing beyond that would not necessarily be economical, and considering a decent trailworthy bike can hold its value well, you’d be better off selling it and upgrading the whole thing.
Finally, if you already have a bike and find that it fails some of these tests you can still gain from this video. If it’s currently working for you and you’re having fun on it, then keep shredding. If you feel like it’s holding you back, you now have the tools to find something a
Little better. Still, we haven’t spoken about assembly, maintenance, or all the other upgrades you can do. So I’m sure you have questions. With the help of my viewers, I’ll do my best to answer them in the comments. So find yourself a good beginner bike and enjoy it.
Because you’re only a year away from selling all your belongings and financing an irresponsibly expensive bike. It happens to the best of us. Thanks for riding with me today, and I’ll see you next time.
45 Comments
I got my bike a while back it fails everything except disc brakes and i end up breaking something every time I go ride but I don’t have the money to get a new bike and the money to fix the stuff wrong with it I and riding a bike that is held together by duck tape and zip ties but still having fun so when the frame or something that is worth more than the bike to replace breaks then I’ll get a new one but until then I’m sending it
1:28 wall ride, or fence?
Can you upgrade from the old stems to the new ?
I just did 70 kilometers forest and road on a 45 year old "Taifun" citybike which is not serviceable and is a rust bucket. I had to fight with the bike during the whole trip. This video is great for someone with new found love of cycling.
Tnks at 60 I m on my way to my first MTB with a 500 bucks in mind ……I return the 384 bike I got at Walmart with a broken chain. After seeing all these mtb videos it make me wonder why my son bike cost a couple of grands……another crashing dad here….,,tnk 4 ur video….live it
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cries in living in country that avg income is $120/month
please make a new video about this! it's been 5 years
I started with a used full squish for about $180 and had a full service done to it for another $50. Since then I have been slowly adding parts as they limit me. Nicer tires, better wheels, better cranks, a new drivetrain, better handlebars for better geometry, etc. It's been years, and I've invested in the last parts for the thing. I'll soon have a bike totally catered to me for less than $1,500. The perfect way to start, and it has given me a lot of knowledge and confidence I would not have gotten with an entry-level hardtail.
2012 trek fuel ex7 or marlin 6?
I'm so happy you understand what people mean by budget. I just watched a 'budget bike' video about a 1300$ bike.. I understand MTBs and how gnarly it can get but I feel like that's just out of touch with everyday people looking at getting into the hobby. Thank you Edfit – Just saw this video was 5 years old.. lmao… Chance on doing an update on decent bikes in the sub 1000$ range? I'm certain tons of people would consider that entry level.
If you are older and ride the county roads make it fit like a running shoe.
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!!
Pov: you used to do proper mtb on a fully rigid Raleigh manta ray older than me
I actually plan to spend 2-3k on a hardtail and can't find something that I like. I must be doing something wrong, i swear. Are my expectations too high?
Ps: I would say i don't have a lot of mtb experience..
This is an excellent video. I just bought one of these – a 29 version- at a yard sale DIRT CHEAP. It is nearly complete and very rebuildable. Yes, it fits, which was the big attraction.
Just bought this bike used last fall for around $400. Basically no miles on it.
is a karakoram gt 3.0 bike good to start off with? it passes most of these but i have brake issues. i just want to know if its worth to put money into anf fix up for going on trails
Im confused @2:00 Isn't that a removable derailleur hanger? What is the issue with that one?
Do you think that the head tube angle of 69.5 on the gen 2 trek Marlin 6 is to much for a starter bike? I want to progress towards jumps and down hill riding.
What do you think about the cannondale trail 5 bike? It's a earlier 2000 model with the rst blaze fork. Picked it up for 125.00, has the 3 cogs in front. What's the best upgrades for it? Thank you
My and my buddy are fixing up an old 1990s Diamondback Topanga which has a direct mount derailleur
Need recommendation, I'm 74 year guy, been mountain biking for about 25 years. I'm looking for a "Plush Ride" bike, meaning my 74 year body needs some help with absorbing shock on the trail. I'm looking at full suspension with emphasis on a good front fork to help absorb the impact to my arms, neck, upper body. I'm looking at entry level bikes in the $1500-$2000 range.
whats the name of the bike in the video
Could anyone drop in the Amazon link for the bike displayed in the video?
The link that he has mentioned seems to be broken.
Thanks in advance.
“If you see nuts, stay away” is just good advice for life in general. Especially in Thailand and if you’re a straight dude.
I just have to say big thank you to Seth.. 3 yrs ago this was the first ever video i watched on this channel and i bought my first bike following these guidelines and the bike holds up perfectly.. also with his vids i've learnt how to work on my bike
I weigh 350 5.10 height what size mountain bike do u recommend
I just want something a little bit above Walmart brand that won't break when ride casually
wow
Need a 2023 version of this video Seth
phew lol! I nailed all of them without even knowing! I got a friend who is way more knowledgable to help me choose one! Settled for a BMC Team Elite TE03! Did some minor upgrades/maintenance/service and it's up and running properly! I don't have many crazy downhill trails nearby and there is a lot of climbing, so I feel awesome on it! Just took the craziest descent ever on a really rough/rocky terrain and it felt sooo good 🙂 I'm pretty used to the bike by now and had the confidence to let it roll, and roll it did. Pretty awesome bike for a semi-beginner biker for my riding, and way better than what I've ridden before so I feel much more confident
how easy is it to change from rim brakes to disc brakes?
Need some help with my first MTB. I'm willing to pay up to $1400.
I'm a very athletic person who learn fast. I've done lots of parkour (pro), climbing (7A+), and similar things.
I like biking, but I haven't really tried mountain biking, for real – I like to drive off-road and have done lots of that. One thing I'm sure of is that I am going to like this sport, so here's my question:
What bike do you recommend to someone like me? (I don't think that a beginners bike will hold, considering ^)
I just bought a giant talon 1 M 29er a week and a half ago and it survived a t bone by a car at 10-15 mph and dragged the bike and me for half a block they paid for the damages on my bike due to the front wheel being bent into an S and it’s my only mode of transportation so I didn’t persue any insurance for physical injury because I was hit by a teenager and I think her hitting me traumatized her enough and again they paid for the maintenance and parts to make it good as new I gave them a hug thanked them for stopping and helping me and told them I suffered worse on the trail
Why was that a bandaid solution?
Seth. I am thinking of buying a Diamond back or GT. At Sports check. What are your thoughts?.
I have the exact bike you use here. I purchased it a month ago. Only seeing this video now and I’m glad I got a good beginner bike 😊
Thank you, this puts my mind at ease. I bought a GT Aggressor less than 4 weeks ago, not knowing anything about today's bikes. Sadly I am limited by budget, but it seems like a good beginner bike. And I like that it is upgradeable. It's a bit heavy, but I just have to deal with it.
Bruh I just bought one of these used for 400 in 2023 loving it though
You didn’t show the stem on the second bike 😒
Everything he said … been there ,done that…
You literally dont need more information to get into mountainbiking, all the rest is just noise that you shouldn't worry about yet.
Better to start it with a 500$ bike and then later sell and buy a better one, than buying an expensive bike only to find out its not your thing…
got a diamondback insight for $75 yesterday. needs a new chain and a wash but it rides really well. not a mountain biker i got a hybrid for back pain rehabilitation and it feels great