Sepp Kuss Finally OPENED UP About Vuelta’s AWKWARD DRAMA

    For the past three months, cycling fans have been wondering what was actually happening behind the closed doors at the Jumbo-Visma’s Vuelta a España dominance, since despite things looking quite good on the outside, there was just this feeling that something was off. And now, for the first time after storming to his first career Grand Tour win on an all Jumbo-Visma podium at the Vuelta a España, Sepp Kuss revealed what was going on behind the scenes, what they were hiding from the public eye, and how awkward things truly were.

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    For the past three months, cycling fans have been  wondering what was actually happening behind the   closed doors at the Jumbo-Visma’s Vuelta a España  dominance, since despite things looking quite good   on the outside, there was just this feeling that  something was off. And now, for the first time  

    After storming to his first career Grand Tour  win on an all Jumbo-Visma podium ad the Vuelta a   España, Sepp Kuss revealed what was going on  behind the scenes, what they were hiding from   the public eye, and how awkward things truly were. See, Sepp Kuss was the first American grand tour  

    Winner since Chris Horner managed to  snatch a Vuelta victory back in 2013   with a 37 second lead. He finished the race  ahead of Jonas Vingegaard and Primož Roglič,   after what seemed like a given victory as a “thank  you”, rather than a dominant one. It only happened  

    After a dramatic run of stages in the mountains,  where at certain parts, it wasn’t clear whether   his trusted Jumbo-Visma teammates would turn to  the selfish side and rip off his red jersey or   not. And because of that, Kuss reflected on the  experience as a “weird dynamic” of “hoping that  

    Another team brings back your teammate”. Kuss revealed all of this on Geraint   Thomas Cycling Club Podcast, where  Thomas and his co-host, Tom Fordyce,   first asked Kuss about his Giro d’Italia and Tour  de France experiences before deciding to ride the  

    Vuelta a España as well. Over there, Kuss took a  healthy amount of time in an early breakaway and   was wearing the GC leader’s red jersey after  only eight stages of racing. The problem he   didn’t want to admit in the interviews before  and after the stages during the Vuelta though,  

    Was that he had his two Grand Tour winning  teammates right there, behind him, literally   on his wheel in the overall standings. Therefore,  Kuss was kind of in uncharted territory and the   whole situation just begged for some trust issues. He claimed that at the beginning, he just didn’t  

    Feel like it would be right to say: “I want this”,  because he realized that the only reason he was in   that position in the first place was because of  his team’s tactics, and he felt it was only fair  

    The way it was. Kuss simply didn’t want to put  both the Giro and the Tour winner in their place,   since he didn’t even know whether he would have  the legs to do what it takes in the very end,   because he’s already raced both Grand  Tours before the Vuelta. That doesn’t  

    Mean he wasn’t confident though. He admitted  to always having the confidence in himself. He   just didn’t want to lay down the law like that. At this year’s Vuelta, Kuss continued his red   jersey leadership throughout the second week  and into the third as well. But then, kind of  

    Unexpectedly, on stage 16, Jonas Vingegaard put  in a big attack on the second-category climb to   Bejes. And while it looked like Vingegaard was  trying to get it all for himself and put Kuss out   of his red jersey, it wasn’t necessarily without  permission. Kuss admitted that Vingegaard asked  

    On the radio whether he can attack, to which he  replied: “Sure, someone has to chase so it’s not   bad”. But while that might have been good for  the team while looking at the bigger picture,   it almost backfired on Kuss himself. He said:  “Then when it was a total standstill and UAE  

    Had all these guys and nobody was pulling. I was  like, Oh snap. Okay, well, I want Jonas to win but   I hope somebody actually pulls behind, otherwise  what do we do? I’m not going to chase him back.”  It’s easy to understand why Kuss was riding  in an uncomfortable position here. He was  

    Just kind of standing by as the reigning Tour  champion edged closer and closer to his lead,   b Alto de l’Anglirueing only seconds away from  taking the red jersey and putting it on himself.   Kuss also said it was weird hoping that another  team would bring back his teammate. He meant it  

    In a good way, since he wanted him to win that  stage and there’s nothing wrong with that,   but it was still a weird position to be in. He  didn’t want to say no, but also knew that if he  

    Didn’t react, he could lose what he worked so hard  for. Either way, it looked like a loss. In case   he chased Vingegaard down, it would have been an  attack on his own teammate, and if he didn’t, he’d  

    Be the subject of an attack himself. He didn’t  know what to do and how to solve the situation.  Therefore, Vingegaard went on, won the stage,  and moved dangerously close to Kuss and his   lead in the overall standings. What this caused  though, is nothing but drama. Fans were sitting  

    In front of their TVs, waiting for what would  happen next. Would it be the biggest betrayal   and backstab in cycling history? Or the first  American Vuelta victory in the past 10 years?  The next day though, brought nothing but more  drama. On the iconic, both Vingegaard and Roglič  

    Dropped Kuss, their race-leading teammate who’s  worn the red jersey for all those stages. And that   was the moment where Kuss felt like his teammates  betrayed him. He said: “Before that moment,   I felt so good.” He thought: “I could win this  stage; this stage is the one that I wanted to  

    Win this whole Vuelta and I feel super good.”  But then, with only 1 kilometer to go, they   were going faster and faster, and Kuss was on the  limit. When he realized he was getting dropped,  

    He thought to himself: “Ookay, well, that’s the  end of the road for me. This is what we agreed to,   and I didn’t picture it happening like this,  but I guess this is what it’s going to be.”   Can you imagine what that felt like for  him? It must have been truly devastating. 

    Luckily though, as it turned out, that was  not the end of the road for Kuss. He managed   to limit his losses enough to keep the lead,  even if that was just barely. After the chaos   that unfolded on the Angliru, Jumbo-Visma’s  riders and staff sat down for a meeting,  

    Set to decide how to proceed and move on from  there. And at that point, everybody was okay   with backing Kuss as the leader. Whether that was  true or not could be argued, especially after what   Roglič’s been saying in interviews since then, but  that’s a story for a different day. As long as he  

    Only thought differently and didn’t actually  do anything unexpected, we cannot blame him,   since he’s his own man with his own ambitions. Kuss isn’t mad at what happened, or better yet,   what almost happened though. Even during the  interview, he was able to discuss the drama  

    While being in good mood, even laughing and  joking at various points. It’s hard not to   when in front you there’s a story with such  unusual circumstances. However, there was one   more question he got asked, that rooted out of  what some fans were saying. Did he only win the  

    Vuelta because of his teammates’ decisions?  And could he have done it otherwise as well?  To that, he answered: “That discussion is also  valid, but at least when I think about that,   what about all the times that I towed them around,  or the year that I saved Primož on the Angliru? If  

    Cycling is this thing where it’s like a caste  system, where you are a domestique and you are   that no matter what, then that’s one way to  look at it, but then you say in turn, whoever   has the leader’s jersey is the leader no matter  what.” And what he said there is honestly true. 

    It’s kind of funny, but Sepp Kuss was  still playing the loyal teammate role,   even when he was the one with the red jersey  and in the lead at the Vuelta. He also played   the exact same role as he patiently watched  Vingegaard go up the road. So it’s hard to  

    Say what would have happened and how things  would have played out for Kuss if he reacted   differently to that move. What if he attacked as  well? But he didn’t, even though he could have.  

    And that’s what a good teammate does. It is clear  that out of what he said, he asserted that he was,   in fact, good enough to win the Vuelta in the end. He also added: “Whatever way you spin it you have  

    To play within the realms of the team and who  is strongest too, which, I do think I was the   strongest in that situation.” No matter how  his victory was seen, the drama definitely   struck millions of cycling fans worldwide. Even  Kuss himself claimed that it was “moving” to  

    Experience the support of the fans, all pulling  for him to take the victory and stand on the   top of the podium in that precious red jersey. But as the 2023 season has ended, the 2024 season  

    Is going to be huge for Kuss as well. He admitted  that for him, it would be the best to do the Tour   again, since he’s already in love with the route.  But he also wants to go back to the Vuelta and  

    Defend his championship there as well, since it’s  an experience he hasn’t had a chance to have yet.

    44 Comments

    1. Kuss, what an amazing persona. Super humble, strong and loyal. He deserved that victory and he had legs to capture it. Vingegard can only learn from him and Roglic did good to change the team. Hope Kuss will prove his worth as a leader in 2024 as well.

    2. Why in the world would it be the "biggest betrayal and backstab in cycling history?" They all went there to race. If Kuss can't beat his teammates fair and square–with all racing–then he hardly deserves to call himself a champion. Methinks he feels too entitled.

    3. There is such a thing as too many cooks. However, Jumbo-Visma on this occasion got away with it rather smoothly, and in twenty years time people will only see that podium with three teammates on it, and this backstage confusion will be forgotten. So chapeau to them, at the end of the day. Sure, some of the more conservative cycling fans didn't like what they were witnessing, but this is just what happens when one team is far too good for the competition. In reality the third best rider in the race took the number one spot.

      And I don't blame them for giving it to a domestique, especially when that domestique is the most well-liked guy in the peloton AKA Mr Sepp Kuss.
      Sure was a bit of extra excitement in a race where nobody could take on Jumbo-Visma anyways.

    4. One looks like the human you'd want your kid to grow into. 2 look like they're all about themselves and shouldn't be trusted. Shine and shade became part of all 3's legacy in that tour. Bravo Sepp

    5. For me, the stage that put this thing into a realm none were expecting was the time trial. It's always been a bit of a throwaway stage for Kuss, unless there's KOM points in there somewhere. It's not like he doesn't try, but I think this was the first time trial he ever did on the World Tour where he was all-in, everything on the table.

      Everyone thought he'd lose over a minute, some thinking he would lose over two, just because his teammates were time trial juggernauts and he was still "just" Sepp Kuss. But he came out still in the red jersey, and then the "fun began."

      What a unique situation that was though. You can't blame Roglic for wanting to be the guy. He has been that guy for years. He was the one who got Jumbo really going years ago, helping them to be the best GC team on the World Tour. 

      I'm glad for Kuss. He deserved it, but he also earned it. And now Jumbo has three grand tour wins in one year, all by different riders. Will we ever see that again?

      Great narration, btw. That was a well done video.

    6. He has such a well thought-out, articulated, and mature attitude toward this, and the team dynamic generally. I root for him for this reason, even separate from his physical talent.

    7. This was first and foremost a DS problem. Without clear leadership the riders were forced to make up the rules on the fly.

      I don’t remember a GT where the domestique was in a position to win and the GC rider was in a position to take the lead.

      Plenty of times has the domestique been stronger than the GC ride,r often signaling a change of the guard.

      I don’t blame JV, albeit a bit selfish IMO, for asking permission, but the DS should have shut that down.

      And the DS definitely should have shut down what happened on Angliru. Roglic shouldn’t have attacked, end of story. Not sure if JV should have followed or stayed, it sure did put Roglic dreams of a 4th Vuelta win on ice, but it Sepp would have lost less time if Jonas stayed. However, there is a chance that they would then have contend with a combative/hopeful Roglic in the last mountain stages, if JV hadn’t shadowed his every move.

    8. 7:30 no this is some bullshit i am sorry. I know sepp is very likeable and all that, but he was NOT the strongest in the vuelta. He only won cus he was given that one stage, all the other stages vingegaard and roglic was faster than him, both in TT and on the climbs. I think vingegaard easily could have won it all on the angliru stage, if he had just given it all he could. You could see him chilling on the climb behind roglic. I do think Sepp deserved the win, but only as a "thank you for your loyalty" kindda win. He didnt deserve it as simply the best rider of the vuelta win.

    9. The Tour will be fascinating this year. I don't see Kuss pulling Jonas all the way the big climbs anymore. Kuss should be chasing stage wins. If Jonas can't hold the wheel, then Kuss powers away for the win. And we should see some explosive accelerations from Sepp.

    10. Having the full podium was a new situation for the team and with no precedence, there were uncertainties how to deal with it. They made the right decision and all but one rider agreed to that…..

    11. How management of TJV handled this is horrific. How Vingegard and Roglič handled this is horrific. I mean. On hit B-day they dropped him on Angrilu, where he could have won. I love it when Sepp says. If we have a cast system, then the one in the leader's jearsey is the captain. Something to remmember

    12. Kuss is fine rider. And had great vuelta. But at vuelta 23 kuss was 3d best gc rider, and was allowed to win gc.
      The theme was “let the best win, the road will decide.”
      But jumbo management caved to social media and decided to let kuss win it.
      Unfair! Now roglic might never be the rider w the most vuelta wins in history.
      Unfair! Now vingegaard might be the rider to never win all 3 gts.
      Jumbo was rt to begin w—let the best win.
      Ugh

    13. This video and y'all in the comments here are being way too harsh. This was a completely unprecedented situation that they had to navigate on the fly. They had to balance winning the race with the roles and responsibilities they agreed on beforehand, loyalty towards Kuss, and the personal ambitions of two grand tour winners. There's multiple ways to go about it and there simply was no playbook for these type of situations. In the end it all worked out. I'd say they handled it reasonably well. It could have been better. But considering the circumstances they did a pretty good job.

      And remember: these are professionals and its competitive sports. You don't become the best like Roglic and Vingegaard unless you're somewhat selfish.

    14. Were things actually awkward truly behind the scenes? It doesn't matter… what matters is that this guy was worthily rewarded – either because of his talent or because of his spirit of sacrifice – for being a domestique for all 3 top stage tours in 2023, helping Roglic win the "Giro d'Italia," Vingegaard win the "Tour de France." His smile is so sunny, genuine, that he is loved by cycling fans all over the world, no matter the nationality or team he belongs to. Finally, we recognize that in any other team except Evenepoel's Soudal Quick-Step, he could easily be a full captain. I loved Sepp😘

    15. Vingegaard decided who was going to win the Vuelta23, cause he was obviously the strongest. Had Vingegaard not been there as a buffer, Roglic for sure would have attacked, and did multiple times but with Vingegaard right on his wheel. Kuss was a class act all the way, and i can say from a danish POV, we all pulled for Kuss!

    16. Good answer from Kuss, Roglic would have not won the giro if Kuss wasn’t there. And vingerganrd would have had it more difficult. So yes, I see he really won the Vuelta, he was not given it, he earned it

    17. If I was a tour team manager, I’d do everything possible to get Sepp on my team. He’s exactly the person I’d want representing all of my sponsors.

      Imagine how often he’s turned himself inside out for others?

    18. Sepp Kuss has made significant contributions to the team, and his victory is commendable. Since cycling is a team sport he certainly deserved to win the Vuelta. I hope that jumbo and Vingegaard will learn from this experience.

    19. To me, Kuss has gained respect from this, while Roglic and Vingegaard lost it in my eyes. Kuss can be a leader, a team rider, whatever is needed. The other two are not dependable except to ride for themselves.

    20. It would have to be a DRAMA , he's American of course where they like making up even when it isn't "A Drama" ….there was that other guy also , the Doper from USA….I forget his name..

    21. I will never like this Vuelta. Anyone who knows cycling could see Kuss was awarded this Vuelta, he didnt win it because he was the best rider, and I hate that.
      Imagine betting on a race and they let their helper win it. Should give people their betting money back.
      The strongest rider should always win. Everything else is nonsense.

    22. Without a doubt the best personality in cycling right now, and that's with Pogacar, Mohoric, Cav and many more currently on the circuit. I'd put him as fourth best rider overall as well.

    23. I think it was only the press who made this a drama.
      If Vingegaard and Roglic was forced to wait for Kuss on the stage, they could,all three, have lost valuable time to the other teams, especially if Kuss was breaking down.
      I'm glad Kuss won, it's OK that Vingegaard and Roglic gave some payback to a loyal teammate.
      Cycling is a teamsport with a individual winner and there is where it differs from other sports.

    24. What a crap team with a crap ex-doper as the decision maker/ sports director. Kuss (and Wout) seem to be the only honest members. They should leave that team.

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