Full Video | Q&A | Session 2 | Slough (UK) Satsang | 2022

Session 2 of the Satsang at Slough, UK is a Q&A session where Sri M answers many questions – for eg, questions on Chakradhara and meditation; Possibility of passing on a message to one’s next life; Difference between Poornata and Shunyata; Centres of energy higher than the Sahasrara and so on.

This satsang took place in Slough, Uk in July 2022.

00:00 – What one needs to bring as dakshina for Kriya initiation
01:24 – Sri M encourages questions
01:43 – Q 1 : We visualise various things in the process of Kriya. Does that visualisation take us to the subtler levels of consciousness or psychic connections or is it merely just visualisation?
08:37 – Q 2 : I enjoy doing Chakradharana and gradually my meditation has become deeper. When I am deep in meditation and feeling intense, suddenly a negative thought enters and disturbs me greatly and I am worried if this thought might materialise. Please help me.
10:51 – Q 3 : If I want to touch my source and I start practicing Kriya yoga by invoking the chakras, is it necessary to invoke all the chakras or will invoking any one chakra be sufficient?
14:24 – Q 4 : In the course of my spiritual journey if I die, is there a way that I can deliberately pass on a message to my next life to continue my sadhana, through some yogic powers? (Answer at 14:25)
17:52 – Q 5 : Is direct communication with the Guru a pre-requisite to reach the higher?
20:21 – Q 6 : Is it possible for common people like us to have a darshan of Babaji and what should we do for that?
21:52 –Q 7 : You spoke earlier about Poornata (completeness). I have mostly been associated with Buddhism and the concept of Shunyata (Emptiness). Recently I have been studying the Upanishads and as I go deeper in meditation I find that Poorna and Shunya seem to be the same thing. Could you elaborate on this please?
26:46 – Q 8 : How can we know that our experiences in life are in exact proportion to our past karma?
28:48 – Q 9 : What are the centres of energy that are higher than the sahasrara, the crown chakra?
29:58 – Q 10 : How important is it to have a guru in the physical form in my lifetime? I had a Guru who was guiding me since my childhood and has attained Samadhi and I feel like he is guiding me but I am still wondering if I need a guru in physical form?
32:48 – Q 11 : Achieving the Supreme Reality – is it a means or is it an end? That is, if you achieve it you don’t have to get into the cycle of birth and death but at the same time, for eg, if you look at the life of Swami Vivekananda he used it as a means to serve society. Can you please explain?
35:38 – Q 12 : Any spiritual experience that we have, could it be a chemical reaction of the hormones?
36:18 – Q 13 – What is the significance of the pineal gland in spirituality?

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So um there were some question someone told me that you’re wondering when the K is going to be given not talking about those who have taken K from me already and have never practiced in their lives I’m not talking about people who want there are some don’t feel guilty so those who are

Takinga the thing is from tomorrow I will slow slowly begin to introduce you into the K so that day after tomorrow you have the complete with you and at the end of the k each of you must give me a 100,000 pound so keep a coin it could be

Anything I don’t want cash I don’t want paper I want a coin so keep a coin ready doesn’t mean what denomination doesn’t matter and a FL so this will be on the third day you come on the third day when we are finishing it’s the ritual to hand over a coin and the

Flower right so keep that you don’t have to worry about it tomorrow day after so are there any more questions so we can deal with that yes reason why this I’m ask encouraging people to question is because it also benefits others there are many people who have

Questions were too shy to even ask right so uh good question you heard it right yeah what she means to say is apart from other kinds of s that people do also in K there is one part where you visualize uh she said imagine I would rather like the word visualize the uh

Certain centers in our system our system chakras question was we are imagining them or we are visualizing them but do does that visualization take us to the um subtler psychic connections or is it merely our visualization let’s start with this you can sit down anything that we do on this earth needs a

Visualization one quality that we have you know animals are very intelligent sometimes I I think my dog is more intelligent than me sometimes not always but one thing that they don’t have is the capacity to visualize even the Chans is actually very dexterous and very intelligent in

Many ways you’ll be surprised to know that it has one chromosome more than us take one chromosome off and you H right so what it cannot visualize doesn’t have the capacity now in Sanskrit the word for visual visualization Isa Nowa the capacity to visualize is unique

To us and it’s we are sharing it with the higher level of beings who have visualized this universe and when you visualize it later on becomes a reality how I want to build a house what is the first step I visualize the kind of house I want then I call an

Architect and had a discussion with and then it materializes slowly into the house that I want so does it all begin in the however if you have a good capacity to Do complete visualization with no disturbance whatsoever and if you have the full energy to do it which happens only when

The mind is mind is not distracted is running around here and there that visual capacity Salpa can actually make things happen faster than they happen in the normal circumstances this is called The Power of sankalpa Now as far as the chakas are concerned when you visualiz the centers first only your

Visualiz gradually it penetrates into the psychic realm and the chakras which are already existing there begin to unfold first You Begin by visualization that visualization then becomes a reality how because the reality which is already there is kind of have stimulated to Blue to expand and bl this is what

Happens so it’s better not to use the word only imagination I would rather say visualization however remember that visualization Is Not a Bad Thing depends on what you visualize can be creative can be distracted so now we have to be very careful which is why the yogis have been

Told to follow certain ground rules of which one is not to cause injury to others because with the practice yourp become so strong that if you will something for yourself or on somebody else it may work so keep your mind clear and do not cause injury to others

Because you’re then sitting on a powder cake if you don’t know how to operate it the other guy and you yourself will be blown up into the sky so therefore Salpa is a very sharp double edged weapon so always have good don’t even if somebody misbehaving with you have and and if

You utilize your energies to create harm to others eventually it will Boomerang on you so we have to be careful I’m not saying you’re doing anything to anybody I’m just giving you warning when you you practice K when you practice meditation when your mind is without distraction the energies are not

Wasted so you really GA a great de of energy this energy you use it on it can soon become a reality so think of good things that’s what I mean even in material world it works sometimes but then you get so caught up in it you can’t R long ago many years

Agoan Hill wrote a book it says Think and Grow Rich well it was for physical riches but the same thing applies in our field also in the psychic and inner fi think and grow we are not asking people to put their thought process in the freezer use it but understand that what

Is real transcend thought and to that you need a sharp intellect to understand this the most intellect intelligent person very soon realizes the limitations of his or her intellect so there are many things beyond that but no harm in using it in a proper manner

Yes one more job added can you help me please okay okay so um let me tell you this when you are going deeper and deeper into meditation it’s a common experience of all sad practice that the last vages of the negativity in you begins to come out in

The mind is not from outside please nowhere from outside because what you’re doing is your Ching when proper churning takes place you know we have a story in the uh Hindu uh system of thought there was churning Once Upon a Time of the ocean of milk and when the churning took

Place when you churn milk what happens butter comes cream comes but in this churning what happens they were churning the ocean and the first thing that came out was poison from inside and when the poison came and got exhausted then the came so therefore when you go deep it’s

Quite a common experience among meditators that sometimes the negative thoughts imp pulses and so on which were deep down which were not visible on the surface you couldn’t have seen it before but now you seen it they come on best way is to be patient and allow them to evap

It it’s the bubbling of the water before turning into steam before evaporation so you don’t worry too much about it and don’t give too much attention to it ignore it and carry on with your meditation and very soon you will see they get exhausted there are cases of

People who have fixed their attention only on one Center all their lives and have attained what they should have attained however in the general scheme of things it’s good to balance and work on all the Centers before you reach the sah there are exceptions people who have just kept their mind with complete

Attention on one Center like the heart or the or the sahra who have attained what should be attain I can’t tell you exactly what it is but they higher spiritual attainments in the general scheme of things it’s a good idea to touch on all the centers so that there is a balance

You see what happens if you’re completely exclusively giving attention to the Heart Center suppose your devotional capacity grows your feelings multiply and so on but then you might turn out to be very emotional and not so practical and if you are very emotional the danger is suddenly you get feelings

Which go Sky High and next minute they fall to the bottom this is the danger with this so therefore as you are a person who has for many lives developed and come to a state where this is enough for you can’t say probably yes I’ve seen this in many

Cases that when you touch the emotional side of your psyche sometimes there is intense feeling going and next minute it’s come down to the lowest level possible to avoid that we try to uniformly work on all the senters that’s why we work all this so it’s safe hard to do that

Um but if you like pondering on or staying on any one of the centers for a longer period of time you get more but don’t neglect everything suppose you’re doing your chakra and then you find that you’re very comfortable here stay there for a longer period of

Time or you find you’re more comfortable stay for long but come back and go through the home the only place Center where you shouldn’t because a young man stay too long is the m two reasons one is what you stimulate there you may not be able to control sometimes that is the center

Of all sexual activ and suddenly you find that many young ladies are coming looking for you I’m inou watch you are in trouble so you can handle this get yourself a flute so therefore it’s better to uniformly look at all this huh uh to the last question which is a very

Serious question I think you asked really out of concern I think so Arjuna asks the same question Krishna in the sixth chapter of the BH which is called Yoga Yoga of meditation Krishna says to Arjuna look when you meditate keep your mind like a flame without any wind I mean so steady no

Flickering a flame protected from all winds which is steady Arjun says to Krishna just a minute he doesn’t say just a minute I’m saying say hold on sir it’s easier for me to control the wind than to control my mind and keep the flame steady start so easy my mind finds it

Impossible to do it so what happens to me same question ask what happens to me so I can’t control my mind so I’m not going up spiritually and I spend time controlling my mind so materially I’m not having time to grow so where am I am

I in the middle of everything not here and not there am I a lost CA and Krishna says to Arjuna look in this field of spiritual progress whatever balance you create remains with you you don’t have to start from square one right whatever you have is a fixed deposit it also collects Interest so when you come next time you will come under such a situation you be born that you’ll naturally be able to take off from where you left behind and he gives two instances he says such people a word is used to define such people they called

Yog who could not perfect themselves y but say yog usually two circumstances one is they’re born in such learned families who for Generations have been involved in spiritual growth that naturally they take to it when they young and they get the whole environment to progress and two some of them are born

In such Rich families cultured and Rich families so that by the time they reach a certain age they have seen enough of material life and they know there’s all that’s all there is to it and move to the spiritual two conditions are there may be other conditions too so not

To worry whatever balance you gather will remain with you it’s a beautiful deposit that you have if you fail in this world you will come back you don’t have to start with square one start with square B or C or D depending on you are you got me into a corner

Now uh well it’s true that it’s not exactly a prerequisite but works better if you are in close contact with the person who initiates you true I’m not denying that but it becomes more and more difficult these days to do that imagine if I am in close contact with all the people

Who are sitting here and all the people who were sitting there and before in the other class and so on then by the time I finish with each one of you individually I may not even finish I might be dead so it’s difficult so physically it

May not be possible always but the mind yes because the mind is unlimited it’s not a limited entity so if somebody is initiated into a practice by x y z or m h i j k l m n whoever then once the the process of initiation and the fact that you have

Been initiated means there is a link established even though it may not be always physically possible but the link is established and therefore one moves forward according to instructions this is the truth I know many people for many years who have been initiated into K yoga for instance by this man this

Person who may not be always able to be with me physically in physical contact and yet I know in some way that they linked to me with the mind so while I agree that there has to be a contact I don’t think it should always be it need always be pH

Yeah look you don’t have to have D of bab there is no need because the aim that bab’s teachings are for you to find your true self not to have of him in the process if you’re going along the par lineage that come from B who knows you might there is no specific

Technique for that and I have no license to say yes I can show you s Li I’m sorry if I could it would have been nice but I don’t have any such license but then that’s not important the sad is done not to see but to evolve spiritually so that

You will find that bab is nowhere outside but inside this is more important than actually looking for and if you want to see B not necessary that go to the Himalayas you think can’t go to England strange possible so don’t think of it that way if you evolve spiritually

Then if it is necessary to see it will I can’t give you any Tech unfortunately okay it’s like this look at the Buddha himself well all Buddhism traces his roots to the Buddha how doesha sit what do the Buddha said when he’s not standing posture lus posture is a typical posture of the

Yogis so there is beyond any doubt that he was a Yi right because to sit inas in fact it is so popular that some people don’t know what isas they know what is a Buddha posture so there is a link right that he was a yogi no

Question and if you go into the Mahayana teachings of course there are many Yogi teachings like the KAG who follow Milas teachings they teach you something very similar to the pure mahay follow the N they follow theog the meaning of in Buddhist literature means ending of all that is conditioning all conditioning

Alling now there are two words N and there is M practically they are the same but terms are different now in yog and terminology it’s called neither is from the root which means alone there’s nothing but that aloneness now this two words you said and is not nothing is

Divide that into it’s me something cannot Beed because otherwise cannot be described as that from the whole world has come and into it go back it’s not that there is there but it is so to Define that is the best way to define it okay

Now say let’s call it paa because it is full anything that is full without any particulars is almost sh get what are two terms is what I’m trying to say and to touch that one has to Snuff out all the differences and all the modifications that are around when

All these are gone and there is only then that is there is no difference so don’t think of sh as some kind of thing where there is emptiness it’s not emptiness it is fullness at its best why is it called emptiness because it is empty of all the ideas of fullness that we

Have well my understanding I’ve had discussions with Mah about this many times uh so the basic thing to remember is that the mind has to be emptied when it is empty what remains you can call it or you can call it whichever way you like but surely a mind that has touched

It is no longer the same mind as the mind that has not touched it that is 100% sure you may look like a human being but once you touch it you’re not changed put for thought the law of karma the law of karma simply means that every effect has a

Cause there is no effect which does not have a cause so any Karma any result that you get in this life must be based on a cost which means what you have done your that’s what it means so if you don’t find the cause in this life surely

The cause must have been in some other life we don’t see the cause here so that doesn’t mean it has happened without a cause it means there was a cause and you can’t find it it’s in the past right so the whole principle is as

You so so you read now there is one problem here sometimes the results of your karmic activity sometimes present themselves 100% at once that is the biggest difficulty because you you’re blown to Pieces but in some cases they come in small doses so that you able to bear with

It so depending on various factors it the result may come in small doses or the result come at once well if it is a good result wonderful if it’s a bad result it’s terrible to bear so therefore always it is better to have it in small

Does and I think if the mind is directed towards this thinking that I’m ready to follow to experience the effect of my K but I may not be strong enough to take it at once can can we have it in small doses this is a good prayer to have in mind at the

Moment we can only with this physical body touch up to the sahasra what is beyond that is still in the Realms of speculation but there certainly is something Beyond so first we have to come here so let’s move that first and then we can think of that which come

Beyond in this present cycle in which the homo sapiens are going through the highest Center we have is the s yeah now since you ask this question while in the yogic literature there is mention of seven chakas starting with Madara and sahasa there are a few minor

Centers between the AA and the S which are generally not mentioned so as you develop one should also fix one’s attention on these centers the later stage are you seeking the answer or you seeking an answer that will satisfy you answer to satisfy me at some point I know it’s a

Self-destructing question in the first place seriously okay sorry well if you already had a teacher with which with whom you were for a long time physically and that he has now attained uh I mean he has left his body if the teachings are with you it is

Sufficient you don’t have to have him always around okay now if you are being led on to the spiritual progress even in this person’s absence then you should have to accept at some point if you have a problem guidance from somebody else it’s very clear that you can’t go and ask the

Person who passed away so please help me and guide me now because even if something happens it may be your own mind inventing it I’m not saying it is could be and you may be going in the wrong direction and thinking everything is Hy because he watching well he may be

Having other things to do so um there is no harm in taking help where necessary but you need not discard the idea that originally this person was your G you don’t have to discard it give respect to it always problem good that’s okay there’s no problem if you want to take guidance

From me you don’t have to have any Devotion to me shake my hand and say a good friend he guiding that’s okay with me so always give you respect to this teacher whoever you have taken guidance from even if he has left his body and if the teachings were good follow them

There is no harm in taking help from someone who is still alive I’m also saying is out of fear that if I’m dead you will still come in trouble me everybody has to die right look you said you gave an example of Swami when did he start guiding people

Afterain because if you have not touched that before touching that whatever call it Mo if you start guiding maybe you start guiding wrongly and people will follow you and they will all also be doing wrong things so I would suggest that before we start guiding we should ourselves know where

We stand and where we are and what is to be attained and attain it and then start the guidance so I also heard you say that the person attains whatever MOA it is an end and then after that there nothing not true if it is an end means it is the

End to the rebirth cycle but because the rebirth cycle is ended that person is not physically dead still there it’s not the ending of the physical body still there therefore you will find that all or most people who have touched that t Capital have tried to help

Others because they want to share what they have with others so it’s not a contradiction they’re not contradictory things anyone who has touched that I think with a fair amount of kindness in the heart would want to share it with others because you see how people are so

Miserable you say why are they miserable why shouldn’t they see what I saw or why should they touch what I touched this is a very important sentiment that usually appears when you have touched it so they are not contradictions attaining as an end end meaning end of the journey and

Continuing to teach continuing the journey after you have touched it while trying to share it with others is one stream it’s not a contradicting stream got it I hope so any experience that you have which is a chemical reaction of hormones is likely to go away when the hormon are

Removed if it is a truly spiritual experience it remains always permanently Forever This is the distinction that you can make however when you have a spiritual experience there certainly is a certain change in your hormones no question about that but it is this way around and not that way

Around while nowadays there is so much thing about the p that moment you start talking meditation people come up with penal gland I’ve got worried because people may turn into penal glands soon because they are always thinking about it so yes true there is a gland which is called

The penal gland it’s a very small gland which is just below the pit in the mid brain a little bit behind it has certain qualities and one of the qualities it has is that it controls our sleep cycle what the uh medical person would call the sadian Rhythm mean the waking

And the sleeping State this is controlled by the pineal glands several years ago they thought it was a useless Oran but they discovered soon that it is an important part to play for instance if you have a jet what happens is suddenly the brain refuses to U recognize the change in

Timings so your your sleeping and your waking State become different so what is the doctor’s advice have a melatonin what is melatonin is it is the hormone which is secreted with the p so then you become nor I don’t I don’t need melatonin I know how to

So otherwi I can’t be traveling around one day here one day there and then I instead of teaching you be falling asleep So therefore the pen gland being connected to sleep which as we discussed early morning today sh deep sleep and the state of higher Consciousness called tya is very closely linked to that it’s as if you wake up in deep Sleep you cannot really visualize suppose all the parameters are of deep

Sleep but then I awake and experience it then it becomes that is the state which the yogic teachings take you to therefore the penal gland is connected to this process in some way it’s not the most important thing however it is connected and when you meditate in the middle of of your eyebrows

Here mentally you’re actually moving towards the pineal gland and the pineal glands hormones can be activated by the mind in fact the whole practice of hat yoga is how to get the various glands in your body to uh um inject their hormones into the system but a spiritual experience is a permanent experience

Which will not be altered by any of the imbalance in the hormones so a yogi who has touched that which is the highest state possible for a human being automatically all his hormonal uh especially the endocrine system falls into place it’s not that way around that this falls into place and

There there is a link of course but this uh obsession with the penal gland is not such a good thing there are many other things happening it’s not just a p gland so go and have your uh lunch or whatever where you are serving it here

There is some yoga at 3:00 so you get two solid hours beautiful campus to walk to discuss what we uh studied in the morning thank you very much