Pro bikes have come a long way! The Pinarello Dogma is one of the most iconic bikes within the pro peloton, but how far has it come? Ollie got his hands on Bradley Wiggins’s old pro bikes and is here to guide us through the ins and outs of these modern legends.
00:00 intro
00:54 Dogma 2
05:47 Dogma F8
09:36 Dogma F
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25 Comments
Which version on the Pinarello would you choose? ๐ค
Disc brakes for road bikes are the biggest scam of the cycling industry ever
I'm sorry. But the best bike in the world so far will ever be the Cannondale Supersix EVO 2 HM rimbrakes. That's all.
Modern bikes look so bad
That is such a bad comparison. Lately, you seem only driven by re-telling all the marketing bs manufacturers of new bikes keep telling in order to sell newer and pricier bikes every year. Why did you not give us your times and watts so that we can compare. It's the same in all your latest compare this old tech to this fancy so much better new stuff. I canceld my sub for this. And this channel will decline further if you keep spreading bike advertising.
I hate to bring a waft of reality to this video, but the bikes are completely irrelevant to the rider's success.
I have a 2012 Dogma 2 Movistar with SRAM Red transmission, Zipp 404 Firecrest wheels and a Zipp bar. I will never get rid of it. Itโs like a marble rolling on glass every time I ride it. That being said, I love new tech and Iโm currently building a new disc bike.
It might be time for the UCI to add to the regulations on weight. I know for a fact there are pros riding 8+kilo aero bikes in the mountains while the bigger teams are riding 7 kilo climbing bikes because they have more freedom with the kit they use. The 6.8 kilo limit was fair when they were all using similar kit
I've definitely fit 25s on that frame without issue for customers. Even some 28s fit
If I had a choiceโฆ..F8 all the way..
Since 2012 thereโs been a lot of gimmicks which improve bugger all
Currently riding a 2014 S-Works Tarmac SL4 with the final iteration of Dura-Ace R9100 mechanical and just replaced the Dura-Ace C24 wheels with the same. It's light, fast and far more capable than I will ever make use of. 26C tires are nice and while I can "squeeze" a 28C in the front, the frame is stuck at 26C. SoCal dry weather is where I ride so discs are not necessarily and Di2 will not make me any faster!
Very interesting. It's a pity it was all on the random side and not a more systematic comparison and not even a word about geometry.
F12, looks bad ass!
That 2012 bike is definitely the one I would want the most for myself.
I own the same frame (other colorway) as the 2012 model with full dura ace (Mechanical) gears and everything.
The feel and aesthetic of the frame is incredible
A bike shop owner offered me 200 pounds (in local currency) for the bikes when I asked for the price if I changed to Carbon wheels due to the price.
Have bikes really gotten that much better in 10 years? He said it was due to brakes and electronic gearing.
Anyway to answer the question: I like the aesthetic of the older versions much more, but I get why the industry is going in a more aerodynamic way. I would choose the 2012 version, but with updated wheels and gearing
I saw Brad doc at Cambridge yesterday
He said he could not afford a current bike ๐๐๐๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟโ๐ฝ
I bought an F8 in 2015 and still ride it. Timeless bikeโฆ.still love it. Rim breaks? Yea, still also look best!!
Bike is so heavy, how do i know its aluminium or steel I bought it because description says aluminium
I would Choose the F-8. Another great Video. Thank you.
"Hey lets compare compare these bikes that most of the population can only dream of affording keep those 8 hours at minimum wage up wagie!"
F10 is just like my lexus LFA
I have a 30mm on the rear of my dogma 60.1. I'm confident I can't go larger
My Dogma F10 has a threaded BB, the speed sniffer before it was cool, and it is an aero-lightweight-one-bike-to-rule-them-all-bike before it was cool too. ๐
Dogma 2 is still such a stunner to look at ,, all those sexy Italian curves โค๐