Joining us in the booth this week is Jenny Okolo, an occupational therapist who has worked in prisons, a speaker and founder of SASA Health, where they provide mental health screenings.

    In this episode we discussed:
    – Jenny’s experience of providing therapy in prison
    – The realities of mental health in prison
    – What Neurodiversity is? (like ADHD, Autism, etc)
    – Why we lack empathy for people who commit crimes
    – The impact of Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D) ?
    – Why we build up people to break them down
    – Tips to help your mental health and much more

    Follow Jenny on socials here – https://www.instagram.com/jenokolo
    Check out her Ted Talk here – https://youtu.be/MMg_s4mGjVY?si=BLV6tf8oav3mziiy

    Follow me on socials:
    https://www.instagram.com/savvywallet

    @savvywallet

    Apple music version – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-take-off-experience/id1582675901

    Spotify version – https://open.spotify.com/show/140VU4fM9sSNMUtjbAJgzH

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 – Preview
    0:46 – Intro
    1:21 – Meet Occupational Therapist: Jenny Okolo
    5:58 – From Belgium to South East London (Aylesbury Estate)
    11:12 – My mum planted seeds for us to do better
    13:21 – School was tough on us but it worked!
    15:39 – I always wanted to know how the mind works
    19:53 – Studying occupational therapy
    21:24 – Placement in maximum security psychiatry hospital
    27:27 – What does an occupational therapist do?
    30:58 – The scariest part about prison…
    34:20 – The criminal justice system lacks…
    36:50 – School to prison pipeline
    44:00 – Jenny’s Ted Talk!
    44:21 – Why we lack empathy for people who commit crimes
    48:18 – What is neurodiversity?
    51:32 – Why aren’t children screened for mental health issues?
    54:50 – Neurodiversity in African culture
    59:01 – What is Seasonal Affective Disorder? + Symptoms
    1:02:42 – The truth about drinking culture in the UK
    1:05:33 – Building people up and breaking them down
    1:10:24 – Why we lack empathy for celebrities
    1:13:20 – Tips to improve mental health
    1:15:42 – Final words

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