This week we mourn the loss of the weirdest handlebars in bike history, chat about rumours of trouble at Wiggle and discuss whether bike stuff has just become way too expensive. Plus more Overrated or Underrated, Fluff Ups and your questions.
Here’s the full rundown:
00:00 RIP handlebars
06:21 Trouble at Wiggle?
15:30 Is Bike Stuff Just Too Expensive Now?
20:54 The Value Sweet Spot
23:02 £300 Budget to £2000 Bike
27:43 Modern 7.5kg Bikes Under £2000
34:13 The High-End Marketing Trap
42:44 Overrated or Underrated: Flat Bar Gravel Bikes
43:58 Overrated or Underrated: Hill Climbs
45:23 Overrated or Underrated: Press Ups
45:52 Overrated or Underrated: Beans On Toast
48:35 Overrated or Underrated: Cats
49:03 Overrated or Underrated: Dogs
49:17 Fluff Up Of The Week
51:49 Offering Advice To Newbie Cyclists
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27 Comments
24:00 That is the most beautiful and romantic story I have heard in a long time 🥰😁😁😁
I have ordered goods from wiggle no problems
I honestly feel that the difference between a 4000 lb bike and a 10000 lb bike for a regular rider is status. And that is all. I think it might give them some edge but a lot of these regular riders are a bit over weight and need that extra edge.
Buy Chinese , same / better tech at sensible prices
Goro is that 4arms MK guy !
I'd rather ride a top end road frame from over a decade ago than anything currently pushed by the bike industry, even if its bought second hand. I have friends who have acquired nice Colnago's etc, worth 4-5k framest for under 1k, then you can build up a sweet riding competitive weighing bike for little outlay. Of course these bikes have rim brakes but then you really don't need discs on a road bike, what was fine for a hundred years is still fine to ride now at any level. This is a big problem for the bike industry at the moment as riders like me have stopped buying their bikes, whereas in the past I'd always be jumping on the latest things.
Emily❤️
Agreement about unsolicited advice, don't give it. Just DON'T.
On the plus side the used market prices have come right down. #BuyUsed
I enjoy the chat guys…..and especially when Emily adds her comments….✊
When I raced back in late 80's early 90's, I could afford to build a good, new, race spec, custom bike with what I earned as a student working part time in a pub. Campagnolo Chorus groupset, hubs built into Mavic Mach 2CD2 rims with DT Swiss spokes, made to measure Reynolds 753 frameset, Cinelli bars and stem, Selle italia saddle, Vittoria tubs.
You can't put together a similar level, brand new bike today, working three nights a week, pulling pints in a North East pub. It would cost what, seven, eight, nine grand? It took me just over a year to save for that bike. How many years would it take today?
You'd be finishing your Phd before you got to turn a crank in anger.
Just bought a new Giant TCR Advanced 2 rim brake bike for $1,800. It's a total steal. I don't descent crazy mountains in the rain, so rim brakes are just fine for me.
I don't think there's a hillclimb scene here. But I live in a very very flat place. I have not seen any events in Texas. Arkansas is hilly enough, but is mountain bike country. I expect that California (see Phil Gaimon) and New England have hill climbs, but still nothing like UK. Our people who do competitive events aren't exactly the fun-loving type, generally.
Why do you guys say weight isn't important? It would take less power for the same effort on a lighter bike, especially with lighter wheels. As for expensive bikes, there has been 5 figure bikes for over 10 years. I used to own a 2011 Felt F1 with Dura Ace Di2 that set me back $12,000 USD in 2011. In fact, Dura Ace Di2 was close to $5k new back then. Now it's about the same price. In 2015, Cannondale's top bike was the SuperSix Evo Black Inc was $15k. It used nano carbon, like the Lab71, and it used Dura Ace 9000 mechanical, not Di2, and rim brakes. The Dura Ace Di2 HM version was cheaper. It seems that the price increases are more significant on lower tier bikes, because that's what most people are shopping for. I could be wrong, but that's what I've observed.
Mount Washington auto road bicycle hill climb in New Hampshire is a spectacular sufferfest
Just had an order from Wiggle delivered. 7/11/23
how can you possibly say that 10 years ago, 105 was rubbish? I have two bikes that were purchased 15 years ago. One came with 105, apart from chains and cassettes of course, the derailleurs and even the the chainrings work very well and change well; OK I wax so the chain rings last forever. the one that came with Dura Ace had all the gear replaced with 105 and I did 10. years one that one and then recently gave it an update to Ultegra and wheels and an integrated set of bars, because the bike is still fast. The point is the manual Ultegra is great but not hugely better Than the 15 year old 105.
so it works, lasts a very long time and until recently cost MUCH less. this next bit is a raspberry being blown lat you… PZZZPPHt.
A $3k cf bike will have crap wheels/tire, handlebar, saddle, and 105 groupset. It's really crazy how expensive bikes have become, and how much less you receive in return.
Tall people are also undercatered for
Goro…. is the Mortal Kombat character…
I live in Perth australia and loved the segment. It seems that Perth is becoming the most bike friendly city outside of Europe. The whole story about bike prices was so balanced, I just loved it. Got a very good idea what we SHOULD want. But I am unfit and only started cycling at 62, so I prefer a more upright position of a flat bar. Can you do a review of entry level specialized and Trek hybrids please? Thanks so much for such an informative video
As one of those Commuter cyclists who don't own a bike that cost me over 150£, i like the fact that you recognise the pricing perception problem in the sport. Recently i was looking into getting a serious bike to train. My dad, who is a cyclist since ever, couldn't understand why i want an alloy bike for 1.5k (very expensive for a bike) and not spend more (2.5k) for the carbon version of the same bike. So for 1k more, i would shed 1.5 kilo from the bike and not much more. I reckon i would lost the same weight from all the money i'd spend on the bike.
There is one hill climb event in Barcelona. It has fixed, women and open categories. It is called Tibidabo Hill Climb and this year is on the 25th November.
I really wish there were more of these around.
Yes hill climbs exist outside the UK! I live in France and there’s a lot nearby in the mountains!
those are just for the whales the influencers the dentists. the rest of us are completely fine with a decent frame and sora groupset. what matters is being able to ride during the weekends with friends
YES JIMMY!!!! Cold beans on toast for the win. I’ll also add sliced cheddar on the toast before adding the beans straight out the can and then a dash of Worcestershire sauce on top.
Goro was name lol